13 May 2020 00:01:31
There are rumours that Angel Gomez migjt snub Utds offers and sign for Chelsea. I would be really upset to see such a talented young player leave. He needs a run in the team to prove himself. How can we afford to lose talent like his?

1.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 00:20:29
Umm probably because he won't sign a contract.

We just signed bruno who everyone is rightly raving about, there are strong links with grealish.

Also for half of the season we had lingard and pereira being chosen ahead of him for every game.

I am not surprised if he wants out and i wish him all the best.

2.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 04:05:58
All the best to him. Although I don't see him getting much game time at Chelsea either. They have twice the amount of midfielders than we do all around his age looking to break into the first team.

3.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 08:07:56
The concerns amongst the training staff are about his ability to cope with the EPL physically. Now while superior ability can beat physicality, the player needs to be clever enough to know how to do so. While our coaching staff can see what Gomes is capable of against EPL players every day in training.

This season his competition for places was probably as weak as he will ever have while playing for a top side. An ageing Mata, an out of form Lingard and Andreas Pereira who isn't good enough.

Since the the club have signed Bruno Fernandes and are looking at players like Grealish who would further push Gomes down the peaking order.

He is a clearly talented lad, but he needs to play a season or two of "mens" football either in the championship or in a league such as the Dutch or Portuguese league to develop his understanding and ability to cope physically with a much more demanding style of football.

To that end maybe a move to a club like Chelsea who will invariably loan him out for a year or two might be a good move. Or he will sign a new deal with us and hopefully follow a similar path.

4.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 09:34:16
Invariably loan him out? Sorry Shappy, but Lampard will give him a chance if he's good enough.

5.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 09:56:48
RJ28P as would ole but simple fact of the matter is he’s shown nothing when given a chance to warrant more starts.

6.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 11:00:04
Gomes is very talented, but if anyone has watched him in the u23s especially this season, he’s not warranted a promotion to the first team on those performances. If he goes to Chelsea, good luck to him.

Also you have to ask where he fits in the team? Better player than Andreas and lingard potentially but he’s not really shown much yet. Bruno is top quality so he doesn’t get in there either. I don’t think he’s in the same class as Greenwood either.

A talent, but not sure if he’s going to be as big of a loss as many say.

7.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 11:52:30
RJ28P, Well that's my point, if he was putting in the performances at United in training then he would be given a chance in the first team.

At United he only had Lingard, Mata and Andreas Pereira to get past before we signed Bruno.

He can play either on the wing or in the No.10 position. Chelsea tend to play either 433 or 4231, so Gomes would be competing for a wide role in a 433 or in any of the three positions between the midfield and the striker in a 4231. So he will be competing with Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Barkley, Pedro and Pulisic. Plus any other players Chelsea sign this summer.

Chelsea have an extensive history of signing young players and loaning them out. Gomes needs games every week, and currently he isn't consistent enough to do that at the top end of the EPL. So he needs a loan wherever he plays next season.

8.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 13:00:49
RJ Lampard will give him a chance at the expense of whom?

9.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 14:26:56
Pedro, Willian and Barkley will all likely be gone next season. And with respect, the reason why he isn't playing is because he is running his contract down, like Sancho did at City.
I've watched Gomes a lot (being fortunate enough to have access to a lot of youth games) and he's a talent on par with Hudson-Odoi and Saka if given the consistent minutes.
That said, it seems like the relationship at Utd has soured and it is right for the player to move on.

10.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 14:48:12
Your right red whisky that goal in pre season against spurs didn’t show any promise. Haha. how many opportunities did he get in the number 10 position with the rest of the 1st 11 also playing.

11.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 16:32:52
RJ, for the sake of this discussion, let's assume you are right about the three you mentioned. You think Gomes will slot into their MF ahead of Kante, Mount, Pulisic, Loftus, Kovacic, Gilmour, Odoi, Jorgino or Ziyach?

12.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 17:51:31
Sorry pogthedog he scored one goal in a pre season match. I presume you have unlimited access to the training sessions to say he deserves a chance? Like shappy said if you don’t show enough in training to usurp the likes of pereira and Lingard then there must be a reason why he’s not playing. Ole has been a huge advocate of playing the youth and giving chances. Chong got minutes whilst refusing to sign so I find the idea he’s not playing because of refusing to sign irrelevant.

13.) 13 May 2020
13 May 2020 19:32:41
He can certainly play wide in rotation with Odoi, Pulisic and Ziyech. As for pure no. 10s, the only one we have is Ziyech, Mount is better when allowed to sit a little deeper.

14.) 14 May 2020
14 May 2020 00:55:21
I like gomes but the lad has reportedly been offered 30k.
Football can be simple, greenwood produced gomes hasn't. 30k and what else should we offer him?

15.) 14 May 2020
14 May 2020 00:56:06
My worry is that if teams like Chelsea and Barcelona want to take him what is it that they feel they can get out of him that Ole cannot.

I understand all the points raised by you guys. On one hand if he was performing at a very high level then you would think that he would get a chance to shine in the first team. He is obviously not pulling up any trees but he is young and it must be terribly frustrating if you feel that you do not have rhe managers full confidence and are not going to get a run of games to settle in and prove how good you are.

We are all very happy and surprised at how well an established international £60m player like Bruno has done in such a short time. Yet he has lots of experience and is older than Gomez. Why then do people ezpect a younger player to come into the first team and immediately perform to a high level? Also on the rare times Gomez got a game it was when the team were still struggling. I really do feel he should be given the chance to make it at Utd. I know he is not quite the same player as Grealish but I think he has more natural talent.

For me the way to go would be to give him a decent contract and send him on loan for a season. He would get the games he needs, toughen up physically, and he might appreciate how special it is to have the facilities of and play for Utd. Beckham was loaned out and it didn't hurt his prospects.

16.) 14 May 2020
14 May 2020 07:50:19
Salford, the issue is that he clearly hasn't done enough in training to convince he should start ahead of anyone else.

Under other managers you could say that maybe they don't give youth a chance. But Ole has given more than given youth a chance. People also forget that Gomes was given three starts in the Europa League, often against weaker opposition than we play most weeks in the EPL. How did Gomes do in those games? Occasional glimpses of talent, but drifted in and out of the game far too much.

If he can't do it against the likes of Astana then he will struggle against the Everton's, Spurs, Burnley's and Sheffield United's of the EPL.

He is a hugely talented player, but he isn't ready to play at the level we play at. He needs a loan or two in order to develop.

Unfortunately his contact is about to run out and he doesn't want to sign a new deal. Maybe making his debut at 16 has made him inpatient, maybe he has been told he will get more elsewhere.

Who knows. His size will hold him back in the EPL until he learns how to mitigate his lack of physicality. In youth football if you're quick you can avoid physical battles to an extent, but men's football is played at a faster pace, and quick feet alone will not get you out of trouble. You need to read the game well and position yourself in the right areas and be two steps ahead of the opposition.

It's not a case of him just bulking up, although he does look like he could be tackled by a stiff breeze. He needs to learn how to play in the men's game. He is best off doing that on loan as he will need to play 20-30 games a season to start to learn that. He can't get that here with him playing as he has done. So a loan is the solution.

If he signs for Chelsea he will almost certainly leave on loan at some point. As they are in the same boat as us.
If he signs for Barcelona I don't see him getting a huge amount of game time. They don't tend to play with a No.10 so he would be competing for one of the wide forward roles, against Messi, Dembele, Griezmann, Fati and Braithwaite, plus whoever else the club sign this summer. With Neymar being a key target.

He needs a season in the Championship, or to move to a more technical league in Europe on loan. Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium could all be good options.

I hope he makes it, whether that's with us or somewhere else. But it's a long road yet, and he needs to realise that if he is going to make the most of his potential.

17.) 14 May 2020
14 May 2020 10:57:20
Sadly for me, Greenwood and Williams aside this is a very underwhelming crop of youngsters, referring to those of the age where they would expect to be getting chances in the first team and making an impression. I've seen Chong the most and he has shown nothing but a haircut I'm afraid. I don't buy the fact that Gomes' size is a problem either but neither has he done enough to suggest that he is any better than the thousands of other kids clubs of this magnitude scout every season. If the tens of thousands he wants every week aren't sufficient let him go, I'm sure we'll resign him for £50m in a few years!

18.) 14 May 2020
14 May 2020 15:32:34
Spenno, most young players don't really start to have a regular impact until they are 21/ 22 years old after a season or two as squad players.

In that respect the likes of Rashford and McTominay are starting to reach that level of impact. While Henderson could when he returns from his loan, as could Tuanzebe if he can stay injury free.

However, the likes of Greenwood and Williams are ahead of where they would normally expect for players of their ages. While the likes of Laird, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Chong and Gomes still have huge potential, but are probably a year or two away from making a serious impact in the first team beyond a few games.

That's 12 young players in total who have a chance to make a telling impact in our first team within the next few years. That's insane and at levels not really seen outside of Ajax or Barcelona.

While we have also signed AWB and Shaw who were two of the best young players in the league when we signed them. Dan James from the Championship. While we are chasing players such as Rice, Rodon, Sancho, Bellingham, Grealish etc some of the best young British talent around.

I would say we have two great groups of young players in our squad. The older group of players between the ages of 21-24 including; Henderson, Tuanzebe, AWB, Shaw, McTominay, Rashford, James and Martial.

With a younger group between 17-20 including; Larid, Williams, Dalot, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Mejbri, Gomes, Chong and Greenwood.

Giving us 18 EIGHTEEN! players at our club who have a good chance of making it as at least good squad players, with some of them having genuine world class potential.