31 Aug 2015 20:16:33
Well, having just got in from a 12 hour shift in work, I'm stunned by the transfer news. And not in a good way. As I have said all along, De Gea gets his move. United's stance on not selling him was all a load of pony, and quite frankly this has been handled as poorly as possible. If your going to grant him his move this summer, then the deal should of been done weeks and weeks ago. Allowing ourselves 4-6 weeks to bring in a replacement of the same quality. All we're doing is stock piling number 2 keepers. Romero, Navas, Valdes, all not good enough for the top teams.

Then we move on to the 19 year old kid. The same player Spurs bid €10m for at the start of the window. They were knocked back and told to come back with an offer of €20m to get a deal done. That's £14m. Fast forward 5 weeks and we're paying £36m for an unproven 19 year old! Scandalous. We have an unproven kid on the bench in Wilson, where does that leave him?

Pedro, a multiple European, La Liga, and World Cup winner, proven on the biggest stage in the world, was deemed too expensive at £21m. Two weeks later we spunk £36m on a kid who is no where near Pedro level. The first 11 is in desperate need of improvement. A lot of you scoffed at me, Nomidfield and Redman earlier when we said were not good enough to challenge. Well 4 games into the season were already 5 points behind city. That's without De Bruyne and Otamendi in their line up. We were lucky against Spurs, poor against Villa, couldn't beat a poor Newcastle and got beaten by Swansea. Were light years away. And instead of buying a proven player who genuinely improves the first 11, were spending £36m on a 19 year old unproven kid.

CB has still not been addressed. 3rd window for LVG and our CB options are terrible for a club of our size. £250m spend in little over 18 months and I'm not convinced were any closer to the top clubs than we were at the beginning.

im seriously starting to get fed up of LVG, his tactics,
His arrogance, his philosophy. The footballs boring. The signings on the whole haven't been great and the tactics and style used are terrible.

For the first time in my life I don't look forward to watching us play anymore. And certainly rarely enjoy it.

1.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 20:37:58
people wanted a striker .
we buy one and there still not happy .

2.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 20:41:02
Couldn't agree more

3.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 20:45:57
echo your sentiments but be careful the anti negativity police will be after you :)

4.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 20:46:46
I always look forward to seeing United. I can't help it; even if it is painful to sometimes watch.

I am very disappointed that we haven't signed a top forward. I think it will cost us big time. I just hope we can pull something out the bag.

5.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 20:47:11
If reus goes to madrid and bale comes to us, will we be getting a madrid reject?

6.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:00:47
Stand United

On your point re the keepers. We couldn't sort out DDG weeks and weeks ago because we can't control what Madrid do. Many on here moaned they were only offering £15m and we got nearly double for someone in the last year of the contract. In terms of the three number two keepers, that's Valdes No1 at Barcelona, Navas No1 at Madrid and Romero No1 for Argentina. I think Navas could be a good option.

In terms of the 19 year old it is a bit of a surprise but I would hope he has been extensively scouted and let's see how it goes. Whilst not comparing I remember thinking the same of Ronaldo, although I had seen him play against us for Sporting.

I will see where we are tomorrow at 6pm before going overboard, however where we are at the moment will not see us challenge for the top prizes. What LvG has done is clear the decks and that gives room for youth to come through but in our instant success world he is short of the quality needed

7.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:01:25
I would love to know where you get your figures from, they are not what I have read. Also it amazes me how you know Pedro was a better buy than Martial. I don't know much about him, but would like to give him a chance before deciding if he's a good buy or not. Buying proven players like you want don't always work ( Di maria) but I'm sure you know best. Was you one of those complaining about that nobody Darmian. If only it was as easy as the video games.

8.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:10:46
Jred

Yeh let's go spend £80m on Steven Fletcher, shall we still be happy? Idiotic to assume we should be happy that our club has had their pants pulled down again for an unknown, unproven kid. He will be enough to mount a challenge will he?

9.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:45:59
stand united
lvg wanted a striker and the club backed him.
36 mil on a 19 year old .
he has been given a vast amount of money to buy the players HE wanted.

just shows the money is there .
this is lvg team let's see what he does with it

10.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:46:43
In hope. I have no problem buying potential, what I do have a problem with is blowing £36m on a kid who's in proven. Is that a normal sum now? We have Wilson , a kid the same age needing games. Yet we pay that money for someone equally as unproven. It's crazy. Pedro has done it on the biggest stages so don't try telling me he wouldn't of brought more to the side than this lad. As for Darmian, read my comments from day one. I have been happy with him from the start. Spending £250m in 18 months is the "video game" stuff your talking about. Ludicrous.

Redman , if barca had wanted Valdes to stay then he would have. If Madrid were happy with Navas they wouldn't of paid £30m for De Gea. Not many teams were fighting for Romero on a free. As for not having a choice about selling de Gea earlier that's nonsense. We should have contacted Madrid, told them to pay our asking price by said date, otherwise no transfer can happen. Simple as that. Giving us ample time to find his replacement. It's been handled very poorly

Imightbesomeone, if you think Bale is coming here you need to see a doctor

11.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:48:11
stand
i haven't seen much of him to be honest.
i said further down the page i'm amazed at the price.

you seem to know his not good enough , how much have you seen of him

12.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 21:48:19
I would hardly say Navas is a bad player, a lot of what is reported people seem to take for granted. Really we are all assuming x y and z when we really don't know.

We don't know the figures involded if spurs made a bid for the kid and how much. Non of us know do we. If it was two month ago then it was after he just signed a new contract so doubt the figures you are quoting are correct

A lot of people come on here and rubbish some rumours, then when we buy someone we believe all the figures behind it.De Gea could have gone 2 months ago but we would not be getting the highest ever money paid for a player with one month left on his contract(if firgures are correct) The club get slated for letting players go on the cheap when we play hard ball they still get slated.

At the end of the day we may not all agree with the Managers "philosophy" and way of dealing with matters but we still need to get behind the team and have belief in the process lvg talks about so much.

Again spending 250million what's the net spend does anyone know?

13.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 22:04:43
Stand utd.
You keep saying unproven. As I said I don't know much about him but reading his stats he is as proven as Sterling. The cost is irrelevant. You pay the price required for the player you want.
Pedro at £21million is a waste of money if he's not the player LVG wants.

14.) 31 Aug 2015
31 Aug 2015 22:19:44
not exact but our net spend to date has been around 7 million I believe excluding fees( agents, fa, taxes, registration etc etc)

Net spend this window will be somewhere in the region of 20 million pounds if you believe all the higher numbers of us buying and lower selling numbers that is assuming 12 mill for Navas and 36 mill for Martial.

There is stuff in the press that we paid 6 million for schweinsteiger instead of the reported 14 and also reports today on Hernandez from 7.3 to 12 million go figure. I am using the higher figures. Also not factoring in any loan fees.