07 Jan 2019 14:47:27
Heres a question - Do the players (established/ "world class") sign by the name of the club or do they sign based on the manager? For instance, a certain Zlatan wouldn't have come to United if it weren't for Jose Mourinho, neither would Matic (just a couple of examples, surely there would be more for SAF) . Also, in the past few seasons, we have been rejected by a fair few "man utd fans" who have gone on to sign for the rivals even though we offer the money. So what is it, the Manchester United name or is it the manager for who the players sign?

The reason I ask this question is suppose Ole gets the job permanently in the summer, so would the players be eager to join a reasonably unrecognizable face in managerial terms as opposed to let's say more established ones like Poch or Blanc? If it's the latter, then shouldn't the club keep that in mind when deciding the managerial future of the club?


1.) 07 Jan 2019
07 Jan 2019 15:09:41
Why wouldn't Zlatan or Matic sign for utd without mourinho, they weren't some unattainable world class players, one is playing in MLS which is where he would have ended up had we not signed him and other is someone who was getting outclassed by fabregas of all people at chelsea.

We signed paul pogba a bigger star than either and mourinho had little to do with him signing for us rather than madrid.


2.) 07 Jan 2019
07 Jan 2019 16:25:41
CSM, buddy would you mind answering the question if you have an opinion rather than arguing on the examples. Its all in the past so we cannot really prove if zlatan and matic signed for the club or Mourinho. But if they did, why didn't they do so earlier when Zlatan was young and Matic was mobile. Anyway, the examples are what they are, please focus on the point raised. Would players want to play for Ole or Poch/ Blanc?


3.) 07 Jan 2019
07 Jan 2019 18:00:08
Some people like living in the country other like living in the city, some want apartments other cottages.

Individual choice is what your asking. I don't think any player ever chooses to sign for a club based on just one particular aspect.

If Matic signed for Mourinho would be have signed for Brentford if Jose had been manager there? Probably not.

For some players they want to play for a certain manager, others want to play with certain players, some want to play in the EPL others in La Liga. Some take history and prestige of a club into account others don't. Ultimately everyone moves if the money is right.

There could be 1000 reasons why a player chooses to move to our club or chooses not to.

Ultimately if they don't want to move here then it's best they don't sign. We need players who want to be here and will fight to be here.

If they would rather be in London, or Spain then good luck to them. But they aren't the right player for us.


4.) 07 Jan 2019
07 Jan 2019 22:14:55
Players play for money and opportunities (to earn more money) . Man Utd is one of the biggest clubs and platforms showcase a player's ability.

I do agree that managers can influence and OGS or Poch would certainly appeal to players a lot more than Mou.


5.) 08 Jan 2019
08 Jan 2019 06:03:01
UA we never targetted matic and zlatan before, when Ronaldo signed for us in 2003 he did not reject Real Madrid and Barcelona they were never trying to sign him then.

Matic was an average joe who had 1 good season at Chelsea he has done nothing beyond that, zlatan was never needed. When zlatan signed for Juventus we had Rooney and Ronaldo, his next big move to Barcelona we had rooney and berbatov, his last big move to PSG we had Rooney and just signed RVP.

About players playing for certain managers, if we pay big money and are looking to win trophies players will come. Pochettino and Blanc aren't some big name superstar managers, one has never won anything the other hasn't got a job for 3 years now.


6.) 08 Jan 2019
08 Jan 2019 06:26:06
Fair enough that Shappy and CSM. Thanks! For me personally, it would be a package really, the club and the manager.