18 May 2020 16:31:29
Hello Ed001, i found quite interesting what you said in Liverpool page about covid and athletes. You said that "If they don't know they have this particular virus and then continue to exercise, there is a high risk of if causing other effects such as strokes" which i hear for the first time and before you said that i had no idea that footballeres are at such a high risk. Just of curiosity, is there an example of an athlete who suffers a stroke because of covid and because i like this theme what scientist site do you propose me to read about covid and head strokes ? Ofcourse if they exists, thank you very much.

{Ed001's Note - all sportspeople are at risk of catching flu etc constantly because of the stress they are putting themselves under in training. I trained with some of the British swimming team prior to the London Olympics (well I was in the same pool at the same time, not really doing the same level of training or anything like!) and they would constantly be picking up coughs and colds and getting the flu. It is why the TUE came into being, as there would otherwise be a huge risk of there being a large number of athletes missing at every sporting event.

The stroke thing is a general danger to younger people who catch Covid-19, which obviously includes footballers and other athletes. The link was in a paper published by one of the groups studying the virus, though I can't remember which one now. Most are not even looking at its effects on the young, so it should be easy to find. I would suggest trying something like the medical journal Aspetar, they might well have covered it. I can also suggest researchgate.net as a good resource. I try and keep on top of these kind of things but there is only so much you can read so it would be interesting to know what you discover, if the links get debuffed or it is backed up by more studies or data.

I have to say it is a subject I became interested in only when I got ill, as I was training hard and thought being fit would have staved off illness. But my doctor at the time showed me a load of studies about it and how it affected top class sportspeople and it made me think back and remembered about the swimmers and I started reading up about it. The trouble is, when dealing with competing athletes at the highest level, you don't have enough honesty to be able to trust the full data. I mean how much is being skewed by those who take PEDs and/or recreational drugs and then take part? We can't know for sure if they are taking anything or not to use the data in full knowledge.}


1.) 18 May 2020
18 May 2020 17:42:26
Ed, it would be very interesting to read your views on our conversations we've had on this page over the last couple of days on the issue of football returning?

Would you be happy to see football come back soon?

Or do you think that it's better left until a later date?

{Ed002's Note - I disagree with ignoring the views of the players, the police and medical staff being ignored and would play on the safe side and end the season now. The players will be asked to sign disclaimers on their return accepting the risks whilst their views are being discounted or in the case of at least one side, distorted. The testing and order of games plan are putting aside the incubation period.}


2.) 18 May 2020
18 May 2020 18:11:55
Im afraid somebody is going to get very ill or maybe die because of rushing European football back. Money all the time nothing to do with public morale. 😷😷.


3.) 18 May 2020
18 May 2020 18:25:15
Are the club's medical staff against returning? Interesting when you mention a disclaimer. That's a big red flag for me and I can't imagine it going down too well with the players.

I seen you mentioned on the Liverpool page that the traffic on the site has gone down. Having read this site daily and for free for the last decade, thousands of hours of entertainment. I would gladly pay a monthly subsubscribtion to keep the site up and running. I'm sure many would be willing to pay their dues too. Just a thought.

{Ed002's Note - The medical staff of a number of clubs and wrote a letter raising about 100 questions to answer. The players will not be allowed to play without signing a disclaimer accepting the risks.

I suspect another Ed (001 or 033) mentioned the traffic - you should ask them.}


4.) 18 May 2020
18 May 2020 18:38:25
Sorry I thought it was ed001 I was talking to. Not that it's not a pleasure hearing your opinion ed002.

{Ed001's Note - yes it was me who mentioned it. I am not keen on a subscription as it then locks out some people who simply can't afford to pay. We do have a paypal account people can donate to, I will ask Ed033 to put the link up again if it is not at the top of the page.}


5.) 18 May 2020
18 May 2020 18:41:07
Thats why i like this site! I made my search yesterday Ed001 but i only found an article at CNN in which a doctor said that "the novel C.V. appears to be causing sudden strokes in adults in their 30s and 40s who are not otherwise terribly ill" and that most of these patients have no past medical history.

But i wondered if they were at high risk group without knowing this. that's the reason i asked you, because if they were then its normally to suffer a stroke. And now, after you gave me a direct i find an artcle at medicalexpress who says that they had few to no stroke risk factors. I will try searching, thank you very much as always Ed001.


6.) 18 May 2020
18 May 2020 23:33:32
Mumbles top of the page, donate sign PayPal, visa ect, I give when I can, tough at the moment.


7.) 19 May 2020
19 May 2020 18:05:48
Might be a stupid question but is it only footballers that can develop these side affects? Because I'm pretty sure it will affect everybody the same with possible side affects not just footballers and athletes. Infact there in a better position with the medical care they receive. I think they need to man up and earn the privaliged life they get given, it's ok for the average person who works for the NHS, care workers and sainsburys to go work but footballers no. Some people need to get a grip.


8.) 20 May 2020
20 May 2020 00:09:29
Ed001,

I believe you're referring to the Rutgers study from around 4 weeks ago.

Very insightful stuff regarding how blood thickens from inflammation causes by the virus which leads to strokes.

If it's not that study then it's a very similar one.

{Ed001's Note - it could well be, as that was what they found. I didn't remember the name, as I have been reading hundreds of research articles during the lockdown for an article on Lance Armstrong as I wanted to understand what he did and why it worked. Once you start wandering into reading other studies you can easily lose a whole afternoon in there!}