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26 Aug 2016 15:47:44
Andreas perriera to granada on loan - confirmed

Hope he does well.

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26 Aug 2016 16:14:09
Hope he shines over there but disappointed someone hasn't taken a chance on him in the premier league to give him some proper premier league experience.

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26 Aug 2016 17:21:43
Yeah, but maybe PL were not guaranteeing him play time and Granada did. THey have a small squad and hopefully Andreas sets the La Liga alight.

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22 Aug 2016 14:10:58
Cameron Borthwick Jackson out on loan to Wolves for the season . Jose insists he still remains part of his plans in the long term but I doubt very much he'll be seen in a United shirt again.

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22 Aug 2016 14:51:33
I think we will, he is a player who looks like he has all the tools to become a great player, he just needs to keep his head straight and concentrate on the football.

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22 Aug 2016 16:12:59
I reckon it's more an admission that we're struggling to move Rojo out. With Shaw, Rojo, Darmain and Blind I'd imagine CBJ would struggle for games, and it's best for his development to get regular first team games at a competitive level. He'd be more ready next year when we've thinned the squad players a bit to give him more minutes.

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22 Aug 2016 17:43:25
Yep we're struggling to offload rojo an Darmian because of wages.

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23 Aug 2016 22:15:30
we have a call back clause in his loan.

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21 Aug 2016 15:40:53
It's so refreshing seeing the site a lot more positive at the moment. It really feels like something big is happening at United at the moment. Players like Valencia and Fellaini seem to have found confidence and are playing some very good stuff. Ibra and bailly have fitted in nicely so far, and pogba looked excellent for his first game on Friday. Feeling really positive for this season, hopefully we can continue our form next week and get another win! Enjoy your days guys.

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21 Aug 2016 10:55:46
Hey eds

Have we approached Southampton about the availability of Jose Fonte or is it just interest at this point

Cheers.

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{Ed004's Note - I think it is just interest atm}

21 Aug 2016 17:03:20
Dave I would imagine we need to see rojo or jones or both depart before we bring in another.
Jones on loan I would imagine as no club will want to take a risk with his injury record.
There is still a lit of talk about darmian leaving for Italy also.

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21 Aug 2016 20:43:05
I don't want it to be, but I think Jose will keep Jones for atleast this season. i'd agree, if we was to get Fonte, someone's definitely on the way out, but I don't think it will be a loan move for Jones. If Jones was to go it would be permanently, I can't see him agreeing to a loan!

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21 Aug 2016 21:31:38
He needs to get his career back on track and that maybe his best option cr92 who would buy him with his injury record. Stoke are linked with a loan move possibly with an option to buy.

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22 Aug 2016 03:57:55
i can see where you're coming from but if we buy another defender what's the point only loaning him out when we already have players coming up through the ranks and then other players coming back from loans to because I'm pretty sure Januzaj won't be our last loanee of the window. It's just too many players coming back to the club, if there's an option to buy then yes it's a good idea. But if he's going to come back, that just creates the same head ache next year.

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18 Aug 2016 13:52:35
A question to Ed. Jose said he has 25 man squad. with loan departure of Janujaz does it mean we will expolre for a Winger? I mean a player with potential.

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{Ed004's Note - I doubt it. Only players we will be looking at will probably be a RB and CB.}

21 Aug 2016 22:39:55
We've got Depay, Lingard, Miki, Martial, Mata and Rashford who can all play wide. We're probably covered in that area!

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17 Aug 2016 18:07:08
Southampton have said that fonte is going nowhere! Interview with sly sports.

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17 Aug 2016 18:25:51
That's usually code for 'we want more money'

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17 Aug 2016 18:58:40
Yep! let's just gy manolas!

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18 Aug 2016 07:25:23
I belive font would give us decent cover at the back. Also reports suggesting that we may be in for Fabhino, Never seen him play if I'm honest. just hope it does not put TBH way down the pecking order.

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15 Aug 2016 10:36:05
A few media outlets reporting this morning that Palace have asked to take Ashley Young on loan but Jose has said no to a loan but Yes to selling him -awaiting Pardews response apparently

Decent squad player but I think I would be happy to sell him get him off the wage bill as we have plenty of cover and will let the young uns come through -no need to buy a replacement.

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15 Aug 2016 11:11:58
Even though I think we should've got rid of Young when LVG first came in, for some reason I feel as if Young has turned into another oshea for us! Can do a job here n there, hasn't got a place in the 1st team by any chance. but he doesn't want to leave and the club don't mind him running down his contract on as a Squad player. I can't see him being anything more than a hardly used pawn by Jose. So because of that reason, I would think its best Young finds another team before September.

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15 Aug 2016 12:14:00
We have too many players who can just "do a job" as so many like to say. We need to bring in top players" and specialists as Jose put it if we want to challenge on all fronts. Young should leave, as should 2 or 3 others if we want to progress further in the next transfer market.

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15 Aug 2016 12:52:23
I agree. one of the worst phrases in football "he can do a job there" millions spent and midfielders playing as wingers or full backs etc etc is just covering up the failings of a manager and transfer policy.

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15 Aug 2016 13:03:07
Would be happy for him to move on. Yes he can do a job but if he's behind the likes of Depay, Lingard, Mata, Martial etc what is the point of having him? He would just block youngsters and take up a notable wage.

I think we can afford to lose Young and Bastien without needing to replace them. In fact, I think the squad would look more stream lined and focussed.

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15 Aug 2016 13:05:08
If I had to choose on performances I would still opt for Young over Depay as he is pretty reliable however I still think Depay can and will come good and Jose seems to see potential from comments he has made so unfortunately that is another player Young is behind. I think Young is to good to just be a bit part player and he deserves to get regular football but just not with us. I do like Young as an individual though from interviews and he seems to love being a United player so I hope he gets a good club should he leave.

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15 Aug 2016 14:42:08
With Jose making comments about Depays confidence taking a battering last season I wonder if moving YOUNG on would in some way boost the lads confidence as in the boss thinks I can do a job on the left ahead of him.

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15 Aug 2016 15:15:00
Would rather see memphis or even gribbin play those 3 games that young would have played in january.

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15 Aug 2016 21:02:35
Rojo bastian and yound can all leave without needing to be replaced. We have plenty of options in their positions.

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16 Aug 2016 08:20:34
Agreed DSG. As for Young, he's never been good enough and he's not getting any better now. Clearly loves playing for United, but time he moved on.

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16 Aug 2016 08:55:07
Not so long ago people were saying Valencia can "do a job" at right back.

Now, he is one of our most consistent performers at RB.

Don't be too quick to get rid of someone just because they can't get in the 1st team but can "do a job" in several positions.

Young has turned himself into a useful squad player, you need them when you get injuries and suspensions later in the season.

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16 Aug 2016 11:11:08
Steve, I agree with the principle of what you're saying but in this case I just don't see what positions he'd be covering? His main position is wide left, where Martial starts and Jose has made I clear that Depay will get chances (he came on Sun) . Rashford can also play there and needs the game time far more than Young.

I cannot see Jose playing Young as a LB personally and in any case Shaw is covered by Blind, Rojo, CBJ and even Darmian as things stand. Even if Rojo or Darmian go still plenty of cover!

I don't mind Young, he's dependable and being homegrown is a bonus. But I just don't see that we need him - we have a bloated squad and could do with losing 2 or 3 players Imo.

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17 Aug 2016 09:17:44
Honeybadger,

I agree with every word you wrote there, couldn't have put it better myself, so I won't.

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17 Aug 2016 12:42:36
The Glzaers are selling Manchester united to Chinese investors its all been agreed and will be announced in the next few weeks.

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17 Aug 2016 19:07:01
GDS2 - For every Valencia there is a Cleverley, Nani, Evans etc. Valencia has done well so far at right bac but 90% of these players that apparently "can do a job" just contribute to our team being mediocre. As Jose said when he perhaps we can have 1 or squad players who are "multifunctional" but he wants top players who are specialists in their position. That's how we get to being title contenders again, not by leaving our squad full of Ashley Youngs.
Also, I hope that post about united being sold to Chinese investors is true.

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15 Aug 2016 08:14:55
Stories going round that Darmian given permission to leave.
Anyone heard if this is true, also if it is will we look to bring a RB in and if so who do you think?
As well as Valencia is doing can't believe we would go with just him and TFM as back up.

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15 Aug 2016 09:07:30
We r after Fabinho.

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15 Aug 2016 09:13:01
Singh,

I don't actually believe that story and think he would halt the progress of TFM. Valencia will be first choice rb with TFM as back up, Darmian is good cover as he can play both sides, but I would rather see CBJ as backup to Shaw (not sure we will though as he seems to have fallen off the face of the Earth) so when Smalling is fine Blind will be back up left back and centre half along with Rojo (who I think is awful and should also leave) .

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15 Aug 2016 09:55:03
Tfm is not a right back he needs to play centrally either as a cb or midfield.

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15 Aug 2016 09:55:45
Why would you take blind out if cb GDS.

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15 Aug 2016 09:57:04
Gds,

That could well be true but ed did mention we are after a right back.

I just don't think Jose likes Darmian that much but i wouldn't mind Darmian staying as a back up or if he ups his game he could be first choice.

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15 Aug 2016 11:14:31
I hope we get rid of Rojo, he's Championship level at best. Really really poor signing, just for the sake of buying a left footed CB, who has been kept out of the side for over a year now by a midfielder.

I'd like to see CBJ given the odd game, I thought his final ball into the box was terrific, he was making good progress. Maybe Jose doesn't fancy him though.

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15 Aug 2016 11:21:15
Darmian isn't physical enough for the league. He also struggles a lot with strong pacy players. Cannot catch them and gets caught lacking when he's tracking back.
Valencia is proven what a player he still is, that spot is his and I think Jose will have TFM fill in there if Darmian was to be let go of. Darmians a fraud, and a lot of people mistake him for being Italy's no1 RB when in fact, he is just a squad player. His importance to Italy is like BWJ to us.

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15 Aug 2016 11:35:38
Mourinho was interested in Darmian before we signed him so either his homesick and is unable to settle in Manchester, its not that his an awful player. He showed a glimpse of his talent at the beginning of last season.

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15 Aug 2016 11:40:45
I don't really get this thing of Blind as back up at cb or rb, seems to be building a good partnership with Bailly .

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15 Aug 2016 12:17:42
Rio became solid with Vidic by his side! He also kept Vidic in line when he first came other, speaking to him constantly and pointing an telling him where to be. The same can be said for how Blind is now with Baily. this might actually help Blind cement CB as his own. If that does happen, realise Bailey would be the reason for it and where would that leave Smalling? I still think another CB is needed, but is that too much for 1 transfer window, is that gready? For now they look good, and you have Smalling coming back, but none of these have that experience every title winning team has!

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15 Aug 2016 13:21:30
Blind and Bailly have shown very early signs that they can compliment each other at the back. I'm a fan of Blind, not only his rugged good looks but also how composed he is at playing us out from the back. He's a good reader of the game and an intelligent footballer (doesn't just hoof the ball unnecessarily for example) .

If we replaced Blind with Smalling, yes we would have added height and pace at the back but our build up play from there is likely to suffer.

Jose usually prefers the bigger, more athletic boys (oh err) so will be intrigued to see what conclusion he arrives at with regards our strongest CB partnership.

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15 Aug 2016 14:51:21
Agree with El Loco. Damian is a really solid fullback. I think he's finding it tough to settle. He started off as one of our best players last season. Still, Valenciais doing very well and TFM will make a good deputy until he gains the experience needed to thrive in a more central position.

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15 Aug 2016 18:25:49
What scares me is that Darmian looked awesome just like Martial did, the rot set in with Darmian quickly and it seems he is lacking some sort of desire/ confidence, impossible to know without being involved. Are we seeing something similar with Martial now, it happened with ADM and something similar to Depay (but he never really got going in the first place)?

Hopefully it was just the curse of LVG and these players will start showing some umpff. Darmian could be great, I don't like the trajectory of Martial at the minute, but could be just a blip of some sort. Little things can corrupt players minds, girlfriends, missing mum, friends, losing at FIFA, overhearing something they shouldn't have etc. Remember many of them are used to being the big fish in a small pond, lots of love. Not quite the same at Old Trafford, so a bit of a culture shock and realization they might not be as important as they think they are.

These guys need to man up and realise how lucky they are. Knuckle down and we could see some really exciting times. Darmian isn't lost yet, but like Rafael without sufficient games he will only go backwards.

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15 Aug 2016 21:22:14
Martials looked fine to me, can't see what you're getting at there to be honest beast.

He is only 20 and will have dips in form in the next couple of years but he looks like most of our players this season, finding there feet and gaining match sharpness.

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15 Aug 2016 21:55:59
DSG - He looked off during the Euros and looked off during pre-season as well. He performed better than almost everyone last season and does look a shadow of that same player at the minute. I do appreciate what you are saying as it's early days, he is young, but these things need to be arrested quickly. It's something to be aware of I think as there is a slight change in his effort/ confidence levels to the naked eye.

In fairness he also has that natural nonchalant look to him which makes it difficult to detect, (he could have scored the winner in a cup final or missed a pen in a cup final and you wouldn't know), but he doesn't look fine to me, he looks unhappy and the drop-off is similar to what we saw with ADM imo. Time will tell, but I'm concerned.

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15 Aug 2016 23:57:22
Beast its nothing to do with Lvg factor. Infact just the other day Martial praised Lvgs impact and his trust in him.

He just looks short of fitness but he's a superb player and will be fine.

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16 Aug 2016 01:04:03
Beast you're just looking into things too much. Him having a bad euros is nothing to do with how he performs for United. His performances so far haven't been bad from what I've seen in the last few games, at the euros he had a bad start and wasn't really given a chance to recover.

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16 Aug 2016 03:08:38
I hope you are right guys.

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16 Aug 2016 14:14:00
Martial will need to up his game because he will find it harder this season to shine in a team that has vastly improved! it was a lot easier last season to look head and shoulders above the rest of the team

it should make him more him hungry.

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16 Aug 2016 19:38:27
Martial might also find it easier to play with better players.

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17 Aug 2016 09:19:14
Bad Euro's, he played 45 mintues!?

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18 Aug 2016 03:18:59
How were those 45mins?

If he was showing form in training he would have played more, if he hadnt looked awful in those 45mins he would have gotten more time, he clearly has his head elsewhere as his performances all summer have indicated. He shouldn't be tired either, a man of his age. Mental issue imo.

So yeah it was a bad Euro's for Martial, it wasn't average and it certainly wasn't good, ergo it was BAD.

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18 Aug 2016 09:19:19
His head was elsewhere for 45 minutes, get him sold for a packet of peanuts.

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13 Aug 2016 19:57:45
Well McNair just got his own back. Remind me of his OG if we lose out by a goal on goal difference again.

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14 Aug 2016 05:50:27
Could have happened to anyone mate.
Besides city looked very timid. If you need a penalty and own goal to win against sunderland, they are going to be in for a very difficult season.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they looked a lot like van gaals utd of December. Too many square passes and a frustrated striker.

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14 Aug 2016 08:58:17
Riddlet it's difficult to make assumptions after 1 game. It's rare any team gets going properly until a few games in. Probably best to start judging teams come October. Plus if United had won in that fashion you'd probably be saying "we get 3 points that's the main thing".

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14 Aug 2016 12:22:11
Also remember they have Gundogan and sane to come in. But yeah, Pep will encounter similar problems to LVG with his possession football. Knowing the media in this country I'm sure he won't get half the stick he would if he was the United manager.

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14 Aug 2016 17:23:45
Gotta love the haters, . Shows how much people fear us.

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14 Aug 2016 22:27:20
How the hell did Aguero get MOTM on dream team?

Could you imagine Utd V City with LVG still our manager, harrowing stuff?!

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15 Aug 2016 11:51:29
I haven't been too disappointed by Valencia's performances so far this season. Whether he stays or goes (Darmian), I would be quite happy for Valencia to remain RB. He isn't the greatest player, but he gets up and down, wins tackles, and provides assists from some of the crosses he has put in already.

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13 Aug 2016 19:28:48
Fonte for £8m?

Not bad business but a little underwhelming.

He could definitely be the talker of the defence and organise Smalling or Bailly.

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13 Aug 2016 23:16:28
Why are we signing Fonte?

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13 Aug 2016 23:17:30
If it happens I think. it will be nearer 10m but still think. it is not bad business. He is a leader and will organise the defence which is what we have been asking for. Think. him and Bailly could be a good combination
. not sure where it would leave Smalling/ Jones though.

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13 Aug 2016 23:30:16
I think we will have to sell Rojo and Scweini to balance he squad if this happens. Not a bad signing. Prefer Garay.

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13 Aug 2016 23:44:17
Same 👆
I'd prefer Garay but Fonte could be a useful stop gap of sorts.

It would be surprised if it happens without a number of outgoings.

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14 Aug 2016 01:45:15
Can I ask what has Garay ever managed in the game to be held in such high esteem?

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14 Aug 2016 07:08:24
Premier league experience, leader and most importantly Portuguese.
As Jose said, he has been monitoring players since December.
Decent stop gap.

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14 Aug 2016 08:59:26
Not bad business? £8 million for a 32 year old? The Ashley Williams transfer was baffling, this would be equally so. The market is mental.

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14 Aug 2016 09:34:35
Garay has managed to get over 30 caps for his country who happen to be pretty good and won league and cup titles in 4 countries as well as being hard as nails which is what we need. Fonts has experience here though which may give him the edge if Jose does feel the need to dip in to the market again. Let's be honest, we would all prefer Varane if we can get him!

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14 Aug 2016 09:36:42
Having said that, Rojo has almost 50 caps for the same country and look how he has played so far.

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15 Aug 2016 09:09:48
Fonte great organiser talker and leader in defence - exactly what's needed at the moment. Great stop gap signing if it comes off.

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