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23 Apr 2014 14:14:57
According to Jamie Jackson from The Guardian ( pretty much the most reliable newspaper out there ), we have pretty much agreed to sign Luke Shaw. Pretty good coup imo, got to thank Moyes for that one.

Ed002, heard anything new on the subject?

Mick1

{Ed002's Note - There is no agreement on price with Southampton.}

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Short lived happiness. Cheers Ed. Do you reckon our interest in Shaw remains until a new manager is announced or are some of the targets pretty much close to signing and the transfers will not all be put on hold?

Mick1

{Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

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Mick, there are several sources saying the Shaw deal is very close, that MU believe it's pretty much done. I think what that means is MU have convinced Shaw himself to join and they are just a few million away from negotiating the deal for him. So not done yet, but probably will be done soon. Would be a great signing. I always thought he was Chelsea bound. The Ed told us about Chelsea looking elsewhere, but I thought they may make a last ditch attempt to sign him when we have agreed a fee with Southampton.

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - They are actively discussing a move for another player Syd. Southampton know Chelsea will not pay the price they want.}

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20 Apr 2014 22:04:10
Regarding our obvious midfield problems, what happened to Ganso? Was on the same level as Neymar a couple of seasons ago, but has disappeared since. Would he fit into our midfield?

Lbad

{Ed002's Note - Ganso will not be moving to Old Trafford this summer.}

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His injuries just keep appearing, it's a shame, he started out as a terrific young playmaker, I guess they don't all make it though!

The Moon.

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I'm brazilian, and actually a supporter of the team (São Paulo FC) that he currently plays.
In the last World Cup he as indeed in the same level as Neymar, but due to injuries and a pretty problematic transfer from his former club to the current one just stalled his evolving curve, while, on the other hand, Neymar progress was absurd, to say the least.
Problem is: his knee cap seems to have a serious problem, which prevents him from running too much or even help get himself ina better position.
So, the current Ganso actually plays almost like Carrick: not much movement, his passing range is not as wide as Carrick's, he's not as good at defending as Carrick. The only thing that he's better than Carrick is through balls and one-twos.
The last few coaches that he worked with in São Paulo FC could not find a better way to use him. He does not have much mobility, but his touch of genius is there. The best solution, so far, was to consider him a "surplus" in the middle of the field, having at least one anchorman and another player that can sprint to brake plays and have good passing.
To european football. I think his chances are just minimal to none.
Very sad thing to say, but to use a player like him the team would have to have a lot of patience. And even so, there's no guarantee that he will be able to pay his price.

MikonBR

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20 Apr 2014 20:13:19
Is there any truth in the rumours which suggest that Welbeck favours a transfer?

Personally I'd rather sell RVP or Chicha and keep him

philipvhs

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he wants.}

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He will no doubt be pissed off that RVP is injured and he still isn't starting. Especially with World cup coming up. Can't blame him, hope he stays

Will Red

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He has asked for a transfer I can guantee that but if he leaves is different I know that he will find it hard to leave but it is a path he is looking at.

Sidibie

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You'd rather sell RVP or Chic? Haha, what planet are you actually on? Welbecks strike conversion rate is about 3 million to 1. I'd rather my gran up front . Glad your not the manager

Stand-United

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You are joking that you'd sell RVP or Chico before welbeck?!?!
Welbeck never has been and never will be United quality nor considered an out and out striker.

Melwing28

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I second Stand-United there. You can't be serious about either RVP, arguably World Class, or at least on the cusp in terms of strikers world wide, or Chic! For me, I'd keep both of them ahead of that over rated £300k a week scouser we have.

Todays game was screaming out for somebody playing behind Everton instead of infront of them. Out of all our strikers, Hernandez is by far and away the best at playing off the shoulder. Welbeck is also good and he works hard, but if I was to be offered either of the two in a one on one situation, there is only one winner.

In an ideal World, DW can improve his finishing and become a decent Premiership striker. At the moment he is no where near Sturridge, but he has the potential to be. Unfortunately, he needs to realise that potential very quickly.

MANfromCHESTERunited

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Would you rather keep a 31 year old striker on 200k+ per week or a 24 year old on a third of that wage?

Also we look better without RVP!

philipvhs

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Of course I wouldn't rather sell RvP, but Stand-United, Welbeck's strike conversion rate is better than Rooney's, RvP's and Hernandez'. Believe it or not!

Sydney!

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We don't look better without RVP. We look better without RVP and rooney together.

imightbesomeone

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Did we look better without RvP yesterday? Utter nonsense.

Sydney!

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Sydney!, DW has been involved in 11 of our goals (9 goals; 2 assists) in the league this season. In terms of goals involved in per minutes played that's a goal/assists once every 118 minutes.

Rooney has 27 (15 goals; 12 assists) at one every 87 minutes.

RVP has 14 (11 goals; 3 assists) at one every 104 minutes.

Hernandez has 7 (4 goals; 3 assists) at one every 103 minutes.

I thought I'd bring in some factual data to compare our 4 first team strikers there. Welbeck has started a lot of minutes too compared with Hernandez, yet still has a worst return. People also say he's a good team player, and he sometimes has to play out wide, yet he has 2 assists. Hernandez, who you could argue is a much more selfish striker, has more assists in pretty much half the game time.

So the question I ask is: how can you say you'd prefer Welbeck, who is only a couple of years from his 'prime' over the others? Can you imagine him getting a sniff at any of Europe's elite overseas?

MANfromCHESTERunited

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I haven't said anywhere that I'd prefer Welbeck.

And what has assists got to do with striker conversion rates? Assists are unimportant and completely irrelevant here. It's shots per a goal and DW has the best record this season at this time.

Sydney!

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Of course assists come into the equation. On your basis, SAF missed a trick in the nineties by not playing Peter Schmeichel up front, because he had a better strike conversion than Cole, Yorke, Cantona and any others. I think he scored 3 goals in only about 7 shots.

The point I'm making is, of course it matters if your striker can't even finish his dinner, but its one aspect. Other aspects which are just as important are:

* Areas of the pitch they are receiving the ball,
* Actual attacking contributions per game (i.e. chances created).

Welbeck and RvP could play in the same game, yet Rvp could have 75% of his touches centrally in and around the area, in behind the defence and have 5 shots and 3 key passes which create scoring opportunities. He may convert 2 of those shots. Where as Welbeck could be drifting deeper to receive the ball and have only 30% of the ball in the same areas as RvP. He may have only 2 shots and score 1 and create only one key pass.

This actually shows that Welbecks conversion rate is better (50% as opposed to 40%, yet RvP scored more).

Do you see what I'm saying? In a system where we have the likes of Mata and Kagawa, we need a player up top who can get in behind and be involved in as many scoring opportunities, be it goals or assists, as possible. Otherwise our playmakers will get shut out, like we did at Everton yesterday because Rooney decided to also drop deep. We dominates possession and territorial possession, yet created very little. And its not because we didn't have the quality to produce opportunities, it was because we didn't have that player (s) to get in behind!

This is where we come back to last weeks discussion on needing a combination of our playmakers, quick direct forwards, and a striker, such as Hernandez, who will get into goal scoring/providing areas more often.

MANfromCHESTERunited

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I'm not saying assists don't matter in general. I am saying they mean nothing when it comes down to a striker's strike conversion rate.

Sydney!

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I wonder who I'd be more worried about up front, Chico or welbeck.
Hernandez is the only striker we have who plays off the shoulder, like Owen used to. He doesn't home deep or drift wide.

Melwing28

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IMO Hernandez would be ideal in a team with a playmaker, or two, in CM and 2 quick, direct forwards playing to his left and right and also breaking the defensive line. I honestly believe he would score a lot in a Real Madrid team for example. I wouldn't be disheartened to see him much more next season with Reus and a more advanced Januzaj in a 4-3-3 and have Mata and Kagawa playing the CM position with a top quality deep lying CM coming in, a Vidal or a Carvalho.

MANfromCHESTERunited

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20 Apr 2014 10:59:40
Ed002, is there a chance we could sign Fabregas this Summer? Thanks,
KingGiggsy

KingGiggsy

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

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20 Apr 2014 10:50:33
Ed002 have united got any interest in cavani

jred

{Ed002's Note - Manchester City and Chelsea are still interested interested in Cavani - I would not be surprised to see Real Madrid try and get involved again if they cannot get their first choice target. Chelsea want to see an early resolution.}

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I think Chelsea will get Diego Costa and Cavani will probably go to City or Madrid. I don't see us bidding when we have Rooney & RVP.

Fresh!

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I think Cavani is a hugely over rated player with (in my opinion) a price tag that is £30 million over what it should be, if we ay £50million for a just over average striker then it will be a complete and utter waste of cash

TheRumourMan1999

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20 Apr 2014 07:51:02
Nick Powell is a loan target for Celtic next season.

MUMBAI_BOY

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19 Apr 2014 21:35:12
Can't understand all the talk in the papers about us being interested in Jackson Martinez? I'm a fan, he's a good player but we don't need him unless RvP is going to be sold which I can't see happening. Ed can you please confirm any interest or is it rubbish?

Ozwald

{Ed002's Note - Porto are prepared to cash in on Jackson Martinez with varying degrees of interest from Inter, Arsenal, Napoli, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Manchester City, Spurs, Galatasaray, Juventus and Barcelona in recent months. However, whilst Porto will seek his full release clause of 40M euro but would likely need to settle for less (€36M for want of a number). Two bids from Juventus were turned down and Milan baulked at the asking price. This has left Napoli who have spoken with Porto and the player and have "broadly" struck a deal twice - but have struggling to get the detail finalised - and perhaps Spurs who would need to match the Napoli deal. Arsenal is a possibility but the price will not be attractive. Whilst certain parties at Chelsea would like to make a move for the player, someone very influential remains unconvinced. Inter will look to a "creative" financial solution.}

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Ed, did you really just quote a number? Unheard of but appreciated! Interesting to have an genuine comment on that sort of thing

Bennett

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Blimey so there is a lot of interest in him then, not surprising I guess! None from MU though, thanks ed002 great stuff!

Ozwald

{Ed002's Note - None that I am aware of.}

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19 Apr 2014 20:02:18
Just to summerise guys.
We are very close to agreeing deals for
1) carvalho: cm
2) shaw : lb
3) reus : wings
4)garay : cb
Don't know how genuine the rumours are but those sounds good. But I will still want another solid cb as Jones and smallings are too injury prone.

rodio17

{Ed004's Note - I think Garay is enough with Keane promoted. If needs be go for a cb in January like Chelsea did with Zouma}

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In one sentence you say we are very close to signing the named players then you say you don't know how true it is, make your mind up!

carloto

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18 Apr 2014 16:49:55
If any of the Eds are about. just wondering about Wilfried Zaha. Are we likely to see him in and around the first team or is he not wanted by Moyes? Cheers!

Andy!

{Ed002's Note - I expect he will move on.}

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Lot of rumours that he doesn't give 100% in training etc, which is sad if correct so much talent and potential

Pardoe

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Overrated and never going to be good enough. Very lazy on the pitch as well.

God Created United

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Well he's hardly pulling up roots in Cardiff and seems to me like he is going to be a wasted talent. Young players can make it here like Januzaj so there is a reason why he was left out for so long.

Fresh!

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I think it would be a shame. The boy has talent and what I like about him most is he's willing to take defenders on and be direct, we don't have that at the moment in our team.

Melwing28

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I live in Cardiff and lots if my friends are Bluebirds fans. Zaha is not rated and doesn't get in to a poor Cardiff team most of the time.

Paulo

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18 Apr 2014 11:28:48
Ed02, besides the widely publicised interest in Carvalho and Kroos, what other central midfielders do you know of that we have interest in if you don't mind?

panebello

{Ed002's Note - The club would ideally like Vidal. Gundogan, if available, might be seen as too much of a risk but has been of interest.}

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A midfield of William Carvalho and Vidal would be something to behold.

Fresh!

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That's really exiting ed002, just to read Vidal's name mentioned again. Like another reader wrote, he hasn't been mentioned since the Jan window closed.

Can you give us any words on when you think the signings may happen?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, how likely do you see Vidal being?

Roman Johnson

{Ed002's Note - Vidal won't be joining Manchester United and I am sure he has been mentioned on numerous occasions since January - you should try the search engine. The signings will all happen once the transfer window is open.}

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18 Apr 2014 08:45:31
Hi ed's we've been linked with Enzo Perez recently, do utd have any interest in him or is it just paper talk again?

wiggy677

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

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Superb player, I would think that he is going to make the Argentinian World Cup squad which will get a lot of interest. CSKA bid in January but that was turned down and his buyout clause is apparently 30 million Euros. Could he be the passer to play alongside William Carvalho?

Fresh!

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17 Apr 2014 21:50:48
Ed any interest in Vilhena of feyenoord?

Supasub

{Ed002's Note - Tonny Vilhena's performances has attracted the sustained attention of Juventus but Feyenoord do not want to sell and he is far from first team material for the EPL.}

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17 Apr 2014 11:28:10
What do People make of these Shaw and Carvalho rumours? Most people saying that Shaw and Carvalho are closer than ever to joining. Fee still an issue with Shaw, but fee agreed in principle for Carvalho. I am surprised Chelsea are not putting up a stronger fight in regards to Shaw, but £30m is a lot of money to spend on a LB when you need strikers. I always thought Shaw would end up at Chelsea, I hope I am VERY wrong there! He would be a massive improvement on Ev and he's half his age. Carvalho is a beast in midfield, still think we need a creative midfielders too, unless Rooney is being moved to midfield next season. Seems unlikely due to his reactions over the season, but stranger things have happened and a nice pay-rise may have convinced him to drop back. It would allow us to see Mata more central behind Van Persie, although I think he would be wasted there. Could he play where Giggs and Kagawa have been playing? The more advanced of a 3-man midfield. I do doubt it, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - I have repeatedly explained that Chelsea were quoted a figure in January and are not willing to pay that for Shaw. If Chelsea could negotiate a lower amount for the kid then they would look at him again but right now they are discussing options with the agents of two other left backs.

I don't know where you have this £30M figure from Syd.}

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Ed002, it's just a rough number. A number that the media are using. My point was perhaps Chelsea have more important positions to consider (strikers) before spending a fortune on a LB. I guess the same could be said for MU if fullbacks were not a major issue for us right now.

Ed, what do you think will happen this summer regarding Shaw? In your opinion of course.

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea re looking at a very expensive left back as well Syd. However, their main priority will be at the front with four strikers likely leaving. I really don't want to give an opinion Shaw.}

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I'd imagine Syd that if United have enquired about Shaw they would've been quoted the same as Chelsea and just like Chelsea we would have baulked at the price. Southampton have no need to sell him unless he angles for a move. I would say our targets lie elsewhere unless we dig deep into the coffers for him.
I would like to see kagawa inverted left and mata in behind RVP but do you think Rooney would be better off inverted right side with his work rate better than Mata's and Mata better creatively than Rooney so number 10 should be Juan's. We would need highly energetic full backs and midfielders!

Welsh Red82

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I think that the £30 million figure has come from paper talk. I imagine that the deal will be closer to £22 million with add-ons based on appearances etc. I am fairly confident that we will get Shaw, the ed has said that Chelsea seem quite keen on Kurzawa (I forget the other name, sorry). I'm fairly confident though that come the end of the season we will announce the double signing of Shaw and Carvalho just like we did with Anderson and Nani a good few years ago.

As I said on a different post, I don't think that we will land that creative midfielder that we need. There is no doubting that Moyes wants one but I'm not sure where it is going to come from. Fabregas apparently can't move, Gundogan won't be leaving (especially if we take Reus off them as that will be Reus and Lewandowski that they will have lost). Kroos looks like he's staying at Bayern and Koke won't leave. Our options have been significantly narrowed - perhaps another move for Herrera, maybe Moutinho or Rakitic? Of which I'm only keen on Moutinho.

The question is, if we sign Garay, Shaw, William Carvalho and Reus as our main signings, will that be enough to turn the side around into a league winning team? Our left back area would be solved, the midfield would be very solid all be it perhaps a little bit immobile (however Carvalho breaks well), we would have a front 4 line up of Mata, Reus, Rooney & RVP with plenty of options to change with. I personally think that it would be enough, we could tweak the midfield pair as a bit more creativity would be ideal but we would be a much, much better side.

Fresh!

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea won't be signing Kurzawa - they are talking to others.}

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Syd! I'm hoping that Chelsea's reluctance to meet the valuation and our, quite obvious, desperation to show our intent will put us in a good position to sign him. Like you I always saw him going to Chelsea but, IF rumours are accurate, we seem to be willing to pay slightly over the odds for him. I say 'over the odds' but, considering the potential he has and his age, I see the reported fees as worth paying.

TK-Red

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Ed, so who is it? Ricardo Rodriguez?

'Welsh Red82' I think Rooney would work fine from the right as long as it was quite a central right if that makes sense. Ideally we will have a pace and skill down the left with Shaw and Reus and then have Mata or Rooney from the right in front of Rafael. Formations aren't fixed so both would swap anyway, RVP runs into the right hand channel as well. Then whoever is in the middle out of Rooney or Mata would be more than capable of linking up well with William Carvalho or Fellaini - both of whom like to get forward at times. Even without a Kroos or Fabregas we would have a pretty decent team.

Fresh!

{Ed002's Note - Moreno is taking up most attention at this time.}

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TK, I agree, but why do I get an eery feeling that Evra will get a one year extension? He has been a defensive liability for the most part of his MU career now. What the hell are MU doing? Let him go, buy Shaw, job done.

Sydney!

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I hope we do sign Shaw but I think we will get Conteao Garary and Carvalho I also think Nani will be better suited in having his fellow country men with him if he could get back to his best we would not need any other players, in the youth we could fill the voids. A team of DDG Raf Garary Jones Contrao Carvalho (and he has a chance Pearson would partner Carvalho within a season or two for sure )Kagawa Rooney Mata and RVP With Januzaj Wilson Powell Nani Valencia Carrick Felliani Smalling Evans Buttner Welbeck Cleverly Fletcher, we have a deep and strong squad of young players that could grow well together, we don't need to many new signings this summer three top class players in the right positions and youth were set for a long time

katef

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Ed do you know what the figure was that Chelsea were quoted? And do you know if United are happy to meet this?

Noname

{Ed002's Note - Yes but I have explained on many occasions that I don't want to discuss money - it really seems to confuse people.}

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I'm hoping that talk of a new contract for Evra is a 'just in case' scenario; a contingency plan for if Shaw decides to stay at Southampton for another year. Surely it can't be a first choice option, even for dithering Dave.

TK-Red

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I don't think Evra will get an extension and I think he probably knows that his times up and he wants to move back to France. Someone like AS Monaco I'm sure will be wanting to snap up such a high profile French player. As for the replacement, I would certainly rather have Shaw over Moreno - I find from watching him he can be a bit shaky, similarly Bernat. Shaw has to be the one, if not Bernat and then maybe Coentrao but he isn't that impressive.

And 'katef' - I am sort of a closet Nani fan, I say it in such a way because you can easily get your head bitten off on here for saying that! The one thing Nani needs is confidence from his manager, in his best season Rooney was injured and SAF put all his eggs in his basket and look at the results.

Fresh!

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Agree Fresh! he is an exceptional player if he is in top form he is as good as Sanchez or Reus at his best maybe better. I think of all the players that do need to go he should get one more season to see if he can get it right his talent is warrants it. I would not bat a eye lid to see Cleverly Anderson or Young go but with Nani its got to be worth the effort to get him to come good and if we were to get some players from his national team to sign it may help him find his feet for the long haul and not once every 20 games

katef

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I think Shaw is a must. He's 18 has lots of potential and is already one of the best left backs in the league. Evra is a shambles defensively and regardless of what winger he is up against I worry they will get the better of him. Carvalho from what I've seen (which is limited) would be a good signing as we are crying out for a strong midfielder who can break up play. I thought we might get that with Fellaini but he isn't mobile enough and having Carrick alongside him doesn't add any pace which in my opinion hinders Fellaini more. If we get Shaw, Carvalho then a midfielder who is creative, a new centre back and ideally a winger such as Reus, Griezmann or Di Maria I would be very happy.

Rjmanutd

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Welshred82 s much as I hate you lil curly headed buggers who drink me under the table every time I go to watch or play rugby in Wales. I've been saying since we signed Mata he should be playing on the right.

Grund

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Syd
The amount of times you have told me we won't get Shaw and he is going to Chelsea means imo Shaw is nailed on for united this summer.
He would be a great signing as well much better than Baines imo.

As for Rooney playing CM, give it up man united been go going on about it for 2year now.
Moyes will buy CMs this summer to play CM

jred

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Jred, I will keep saying it then. I think Chelsea will sign Shaw ;)

I think Rooney moving to midfield is unlikely, just like I said above.

But if we struggle to get a Kroos this summer, it wouldn't surprise me.

Rooney has played midfield a few times this season and last.

Personally I think he would be wasted there. Just like I said above.

Sydney!

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Haha thanks Grund I'm sure there's a compliment in there somewhere ;)
I think if we have pacey fullbacks and energetic MF we can accommodate RVP, Roo, Kaga and Mata I'm starting XI

Welsh Red82

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I don't know why people talk about moving Rooney to midfield and fitting Mata etc behind RVP. All our best performances this season have been without RVP.

We look best with Rooney ahead of Mata, and Kagawa drifting between the left and alongside Mata in the hole.

Part of our problem has been that none of our central midfielders offer much going forward, which allows opposition midfielders freedom to get forward, putting our defence under more pressure. A central midfielder who can contribute defensively and break forwards to join attacks, or who can create from a deeper position, would ease the defensive situation, and help get the best out of our attacking players.

Thorne

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I think ultimately, Rooney is going to slot back in behind RVP, Mata and Kagawa will be inside forwards unless Reus is signed in which case Kagawa will be dropped. Simple as that. Rooney and Mata will constantly be swapping positions, they are intelligent players so they will find the right spaces. Kagawa or Reus will do the same but Reus will play slightly wider generally.

Fresh!

{Ed004's Note - I don't see how Rooney and RVP can work with Mata and Kagawa. There is no speed and Rooney's movement isn't good enough. Rooney isn't a clever player like Mata and Kagawa. He just runs around screaming for the ball and 9 times out of 10 thumps it long to the wings}

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Ed004 for a player that just runs around and shouts a lot IYO i'm interested what your thoughts are on them stats.
Over the last 3 seasons
Mata played 135 games scored 33
Kagawa played 95 scored 23
Rooney played 118 score 67

How many number 10s in world football score more than Rooney .

Rvp 121 games 84 goals
Falcao 114 games 81 goals

Rvp and falcao average 5 goals a season more than Rooney, while playing number 9 for there teams while Rooney plays all over the spot . I would of thought Rooney assists are much better

jred

{Ed004's Note - Do mata and Kagawa get to hit all pens as well? 9 times outa 10 Rooney basically plays as a striker. It's no surprise we play boring football when he plays as the number 10 as it's usually hit out to the wing for him to get his head on a cross}

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Ed004 does rooney take all our pens?
Has rooney really played numder 9 9 times out of 10 over the last 3 year?
was fergys tactics for the last 2 year to play it wide for rooney to get his head on?
Over the last 3 year rooney has scored 11 more goals than kags and mata combined.

you sound a bit bitter pal.

jred

{Ed004's Note - I feel when Rooney plays in the number 10 role our play has been restricted. I will stick by that point. Throw as many stats at me as you want I'm going purely by how the team plays when he is not the number 10. Our best performances have come with a proper number 10 behind either RVP or Rooney. Therefore I'd sell rooney as I feel RVP is the better player. Maybe I'm biased cause I dislike Rooney and his attitude and feel it sets a shit example for the kids especially as he will prob be the new captain}

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The fact he will be our new captain speaks volumes about how he is thought about at the clubs . Or do you know better?
And who is this proper 10 kags? Who has not had a single great 90 minutes in 2 year or mats who has had 1 good game.

Yes let ignore the most important stat of sll goals scored because it makes your argument look daft.
Biased, bitter yer I would agrre

jred

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Totally agree 004. Rooney can't play as a modern 10. He is a striker that drop into midfield to ping a ball wide but doesn't have the passing intricacies are Technical ability to play as a proper modern number 10. I don understand how everyone thinks he's so good as a number 10 either it seems to be that influential people in the game can repeatedly say something and it becomes gospel. Like Gerrard being good in a deeper role.
Rooney should lay as our striker IMO or wide left cutting in, there are plenty of better midfielders than Rooney.

prodigal7

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Prodigal
And yet influential players do keep saying it .
Fergy played him there.
Moyes has played him there .
and he has played there under a number of england managers.

He scores more gosls than any number 10 I can think off, his assists are up there with the best as his is work rate.

And gerrard has been very good playing deep

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17 Apr 2014 10:02:15
Hi Eds,

Any interest in Simon Kjaer of Lille? Read in the media today. Thanks.

Welsh Red82

{Ed002's Note - Not from MU that I am aware.}

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Doesn't seem to be legs to this one, seems to have sprung out of no where and I haven't heard anything about it other than stuff in the papers. Garay or Mangala will be the ones.

Fresh!

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Perhaps not, another rumour I read was Moyes went to Portugal to scout Mangala, Jackson Martinez and Siquiera. Plus Reus is keen on a move to MU all speculation of course but interesting nontheless

Welsh Red82

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16 Apr 2014 13:28:25
Lots of media rumours saying the deal for Carvalho has been agreed and that we are not far away from agreement, at £30m for Shaw. Kroos to be offered £260,000 per week, which may well turn his head. If we buy those 3 players plus a CB then it will have been a fantastic Summer. A wide man may have to wait. We will probably wave goodbye not just to Vidic but Evra, Ferdinand, Nani, Giggs, Anderson and perhaps Kagawa.

Paulo

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A team does not need expensive 'world class' players for its fans to have a good season. I believe Utd need to invest in the coaching department. Look at Liverpool, besides Suarez, there is no other big name. Sterling, Coutinho etc are now making names for themselves. Everton - a very good side - (No big names). Teams like Dortmund don't pay hugh sum for players, Athletico Madrid. We need to invest in coaching staff. Bring in someone who is good technically. There should also be a succession plan at the club and avoid "hand picking" coaches as is the case wit the current one.

kasondel

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Don't hold your breath - paper never refused ink. We'd all love to see players of that calibre come in but I'd wait until it happens.
Regarding Kroos - think I would prefer to have Marco Reus myself.

Rory

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100% agree Rory, we have Mata and Kagawa, but we don't have a proven quality winger. Adna will be quality but Reus would bring that proven 'x factor' which we need! He would add speed, directness and end product to our attack! Carvalho, or similar, is key to this plan, nonetheless

MANfromCHESTERunited

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Kagawa may well be available but I think it will take a good offer for us to let him go. I think if we are in for Reus then this may put him out the team but he will still have a role to play. With RVPs problems (which won't get any better with age) we will often have a scenario where Rooney is the main striker and Reus, Mata and Kagawa start behind him which is mouth watering. If we keep one of Valencia or Young for cover as well as Januzaj, Zaha and Lingard then we are pretty set for many years.

Fresh!

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16 Apr 2014 12:41:37
Toni Kroos representives have come out and said there is no offer from Manchester United and there would be no point as toni Kroos will be at bayern next season

Another one put to bed

Unitedlad

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That means diddly squat to be honest. What possible motive could the agent have for suggesting that? What does an agent want more than anything? Until the window closes (and opens for that matter) nothing is put to bed. I'd quit worrying about it for now if I were you and enjoy the rest of the season.

RedRosie

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"We have not received any official contract offer [from Manchester United], "

"There is also no need to submit an offer as Toni will be with Bayern Munich until June 2015."

Assuming this is true - it reads very much like he will be heading to United. Of course we haven't given him an OFFICIAL contract offer (this would be considered tapping up) - but to word it this way implies there have been talks and a provisional offer has been made.

The agent mentioning a specific point in time reads as a threat to BM that if they do not sell him he is prepared to run his contract down and leave for nothing in June 2015. Are BM really that stubborn to turn down £25m+ for a player who doesn't want to be there and would be leaving the league? I don't think so.

When this all started I assumed Kroos was just looking for an improved contract with BM - but the longer it goes on the more I have to wonder. I still believe he will sign a new deal over the next few months but am slowly starting to believe that a summer move to OT is, at the very least, a possibility.

redseven

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There was no realistic chance that we were going to get him anyway

Melwing28

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It's no secret Kroos' first choice is to stay at BM. If BM pay him what he wants he will stay.

Sydney!

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Did you really think there was a realistic chance? A player at one of the top European clubs with just over a year left on his contract
just using the name of Manchester United as a negotiation bargaining tool.its been done before and will be done in the future.

Cheats

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I think there could be something in what redseven is saying.

£260k a week is a proper head turner and its not like Kroos would have to play in some Russian outpost in order to earn it.

There's no way Bayern will offer him anything like that amount and if Utd are offering him that sum, it certainly is a statement of belief in him. You wouldn't need a massive ego to be flattered and seduced by such obvious faith in your abilities from of the biggest clubs in world football.

Perhaps it comes down to Kroos, how motivated by money he is and what his relationship with Bayern is.

Even if the money turns his head, it doesn't mean he's a money grabbing mercenary. How many of us would move to our employer's competitor for quadruple our current wage, even if our current employer was offering to double it in order to keep us?

Andrew B

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Money talks and I think united will pay kroos more than Munich.
United need him more Munich don't have to break the bank to keep him when everyone fit he won't be guaranteed a start

jred

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15 Apr 2014 15:44:07
A lot of rumours today claiming we have agreed a deal for William Carvalho. Can anyone please confirm whether this is true or not.

I doubt it is, but there has been a lot said about it.
Cheers

Trev the red1

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Not much help. But I really hope the rumour is true, even though its hard to believe because it's Talkrubbish breaking it.

Everytime i've seen the kid play he's impessed me. He's just the kind of athletic, rangey, powerhouse that we need in our midfield.

If the asking price is £35m. then pay it & get him signed!!

Venomous Pit Ape

Venomous Pit Ape

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Dailymail are reporting that a deal for Shaw is almost complete at 30 million. Surely if these deals are actually going to happen, united officials would say something about it to give supporters a boost at the end of this poor season.

amz_091

{Ed002's Note - The club are not going to say anything until there is some agreement on the price - which there isn't.}

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Amz_091
on the other side of the coin, if a deal is announced and the player then doesn't play well, they will say his head is elsewhere etc.
I just hope it is not for that amount.

Melwing28

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15 Apr 2014 14:36:07
Just seen a few rumours linking us with Alex Song and was wondering if there was any truth in them at all? and would you all be happy if he did sign for us?

FREDO

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Tbh fredo yes and no as a starter no as a sub yes

Paddy The Irishman

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I prey there's no truth in it, I want Manchester United back were they belong and its going to take a hell of a lot longer if there looking at players like this.

stretfordender1980

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No way - I'd prefer to hear that we were interested in Lee Catermole than Song. Would be a dreadfully average signing.

Rory

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15 Apr 2014 14:08:41
Ed002, any update on Lallana? Lots of rumors surrounding him and Shaw at the moment.

REDFAITH

{Ed002's Note - I am aware of interest from Manchester United and Spurs - I am not so sure of interest from Arsenal. Chelsea has had the player watched on a couple of occasions and I suspect Liverpool has also had the player watched.}

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I don't think many would moan if Lallana, Shaw, Carvalho & Kroos were signed. Chuck in say Garay and Arias and the holes would be filled.

Sydney!

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Thanks Ed002.

REDFAITH

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Suggest you use logic for this "rumour". Both Lallana and Shaw likely to be on 'plane to Brazil in summer so Saints would be stupid to consider any deal until after the World Cup when their value could be much increased. Similarly, the players would have the same motivation as their options would likely increase-including clubs with CL qualification.
Neither will move if no change of manager at Saints.

St Martin

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What would Lallana bring us? I don't get it. We already have Kagawa, Rooney, Mata and Januzaj who ideally like to play as inside forwards - what would the point of another be? If we need a forward it's got to be a more natural winger.

Fresh!

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15 Apr 2014 09:21:20
Ed's do we have interest in Barcelona's Pedro? Cheers

Damon86

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona do not want the sell. The only interest that I am aware of is from PSG and Manchester City right now.}

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If he ends up at City I will cry!

By far, the favourite player, and one of my favourite ever spanish players.

The Moon.

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Aren't Barcelona banned from trading for two windows?

Paulo

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15 Apr 2014 01:16:20
Ed002, you said in mid-January that our interest for the LB position was in Filipe Luis of Athletico Madrid and Yugo Nagamoto of Inter Milan. Lower down the page you have said we may go for Juan Bernat of Valencia or Alex Sandro of Porto. Are we still interested in Filipe and Nagamoto? or are we more interested in going for Bernat and Sandro?
My personal choice would be Luke Shaw mainly because he'll be the English number 1 LB for years to come, but given the fee being asked and the likelihood of us paying I can see it's unlikely.

Also, having searched for a while and finding nothing, what is our interest like in young Moussa Dembélé of Fulham?

Bennett

{Ed002's Note - MU would ideally like Shaw but would need to negotiate a lower fee for anything to happen. The have looked at all of the others and Rodrigues and Moreno.}

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14 Apr 2014 22:48:34
I think I'm speaking on behalf of nearly EVERY United fan here. Pure and simple, Kagawa MUST stay beyond the summer. He is far, far too good to let go of. Can somebody set up an account for Mr. Moyes please? I for one will be absolutely gutted if we were to let Shinji go, or use him as bait for any other Dortmund player, even Reus! Ed's, do any of you know what the future prospects are looking like for Kagawa, and can you please give us some good news regarding the issue?

MANfromCHESTERunited

{Ed002's Note - I can tell you that there is interest from Inter and that Manchester United would be willing to let him leave.}

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I wouldn't be surprised if this happened and it would be an absolute disgrace if it does.
After a few game into the season, Moyes came out and said he had never heard or seen Kagawa before, or how good he was.
Now I will admit I seen him only a few times while he was at Dortmund, but I obviously read the paper and also watched the season he played for us last year. Instantly you can tell his technique is class along with his movement, plus you don't become the German league footballer for nothing!
His best position we all know is behind the striker but of course he won't really get a look in there, he's in the same position at Mata with that one.

Melwing28

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Completey dissagree, if it meant a swap for somebody like Marco Reus I would swap him in a hearbeat.

Simmo1975

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This is another example of Fergie's poor decisions in the transfer market. Obviously he has had some phenominal successes in the transfer market but some decisions have been very poor. E.G. spending £12-15Mill on Kagawa only to buy RVP in the same summer and hence ensure Kagawa will almost never play in his best position. Also I don't think Fergie understood Kagawa and what made him a star in Germany. similar to Moyes. Kagawa shone in a system that suited him down to the ground. Klopp employed a high speed, high intensity system with super quick transitions.Kagawa is superb in transitioning from defence to attack at speed, turning with the ball and playing to multiple quick attackers on the break.
95% of the time we don't play like that so he couldn't play the same way. The slower style we have played for 2 seasons has not suited him, let alone the fact he's started most of those games on the left wing where he has less of an impact anyway.

Anyway, for Shinji's sake I hope he goes back to Dortmund. We'll be losing a superb player but he's too far down the pecking order at No.10 to keep him. It's sad we couldn't have kept him and built the attack around him more.

RedMonkey

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I'd let him go too he's had 4 or 5 ok games and 2 good ones only.

Grund

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No you aren't speaking on behalf of every Manchester United fan, i'm a big admirer of kagawa, he's technically brilliant with an eye for a pass but he hasn't done anything other than have a few good games this year, his chances have been limited by moyes but he's still had plenty of chances and for every good game he's had there's another one were he's gone completely missing threw the game and been brought off in second half. the way some fans bang on about him you would think when he has had his chances he's been unplayable, sorry but a few nice touches and passes does not warrant such high praise. if dortmund would sell us reus as long as they could have kagawa as part of the deal then its a no brainer.

stretfordender1980

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As opposed to Fellaini, Cleverley as so on having 0 OK or good games? I'm assuming you only watch the occasional game that's on TV as to even suggest that a good option for the club is to let him go.

For me, if given a run, he will be as influential, if not more, than Juan Mata! The guy won Player of the year in Germany 2 years running before we signed him, in the same league as Reus, Gundogan, Gotze, Muller, Ribery (3rd in Ballon D'or), Robben, Kroos and so on. To sell him would be scandalous!

If this news on Carvalho is true, and we were to invest in a Kroos, Reus or any other quality midfield/forward, we also need to keep our other quality players who would compliment those kind of additions so well! Shinji certainly is one of them! But then again, we could sell him and revert back to 4-4-2 and keep going backwards. I'm sorry, but selling Shinji is plain wrong!

MANfromCHESTERunited

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Well you assume wrong, as I stated i'm a big fan of kagawa and i'd rather keep him but if we could get reus coming this way then its a no brainer, you can't keep reverting back to his dortmund form, do you think jose thinks torres is going to rekindle the kinda form which saw him finish 3rd in the ballon d'or in 2008, I highly doubt it. its all well and good hero worshipping a good player but he's got to start delivering and living up to his reputation at some point.

stretfordender1980

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It's also worth considering that if we were to go for and get Klopp as new manager (whatever you may think of him) he my well want to keep hold of Kagawa as he seemed to know how to get the best out of him while he was at Dortmund.

nikh99

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I would not be against us using kagawa as part of a trade but I would be against us just selling him as there is at least 10 players who should be shipped out before kagawa

red79

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Your not speaking for me i'd pay his flight home

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13 Apr 2014 22:42:31
Can any Eds shed light on any possible movements for Juan Cuadrado from Fiorentina? I've not seen much of him, but he looks quick and direct, and I did read a rumour a while back? Thanks

MANfromCHESTERunited

{Ed002's Note - Juan Guillermo Cuadrado has been subject to the interest of Arsenal and Udinese.}

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Just looks like another Nani to me and at 25 I think he is coming into his prime which isn't that brilliant.

Fresh!

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13 Apr 2014 10:13:46
Nani involved in swap deal for Cavani?
Clearly to get rid of one world class duffer and recruit a star centre forward would be v positive. That said the £50m or so to secure the Uruguayan surely needs spending on some midfielders, a LB, CB and pacey winger first!

Halesini

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Yes we'd be getting a good striker but;

1) We already have 2.
2) We need to improve other areas as a matter of priority.
3) His arrival would surely mean Rooney dropping back to the 10 position which I don't think he is technically good enough for.
4) That would in turn force Mata out wide which would be criminal after his recent performances in the middle.
5) If reports are to be believed we are after Reus or someone for that wide position so with Rooney in the middle and Mata out wide, it would hold back Januzaj who needs games to better himself.

Long story short I think the arrival of Cavani, or any 1st team striker, would create more problems unless Rooney was sold (which isn't going to happen)

TK-Red

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Well after watching him against Chelsea over two legs in the champions league, he did nothing in my eyes to warrant 50+million pound.maybe were he his asked to play by Lauren blanc of course may not show his true attacking prowess, but I don't think he is any better that what we already have?By that I mean Rooney and van persie, not Welbeck ie. the ice skating giraffe.

Rock the red

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I don't see any sense in this deal, if it were to be true even in the first place.
I don't think Cavani is even worth £50m, talkless plus player!

Habu

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Cavani has been used on the left hand side by Blanc. he obviously isn't going to be as affective as what he can be when he plays up front.

Melwing28

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13 Apr 2014 10:00:40
Not a rumour, more of a question. Moyes says targets won't be swayed by no CL football do you think that will be the case Ed's? My thoughts are Utd will struggle to get the calibre of player needed to improve the squad.

The_Thief

{Ed025's Note - all top payers want CL football thief, i think moyes was being very naive if he thinks otherwise mate..

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The best players want to play on the best stage. But money talks too. So yes we will attract players without CL if offering mega bucks wages a la Rooney but the issue is if City for example are offering Mangala etc £200k a week, with CL and a better chance of winning stuff why take the risk on an unproven manager building a team in transition if all you're guaranteed is another £50k pw?

My fear is the players we want will go elsewhere irrespective of what we offer.

There will be exceptions. If it's clear a player is being brought in as a first team regular such as Shaw at LB then the player should hopefully value that more than being a squad player in a CL team. Hopefully.

Halesini

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He is though!

Eric is god

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Moyes said players will know it's just a temporary thing. That they will be playing UCL football soon enough.

He never said players didn't want to play in the UCL.

Sydney!

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I actually think that they will come even if we don't make the champions league. We will definitely expect top 4 minimum next season with the names being mentioned and there are no international tournaments that they would need to fight for a place in the squad for.

amz_091

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Ed025

That statement is far from correct' Have look at Monaco, Psg before they got in and City and who joined these teams when they had no cl place.

God Created United

{Ed025's Note - if your willing to pay stupid amounts of money GCU, then yes, mercenaries will come, top quality driven players will want CL mate..

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12 Apr 2014 19:50:06
I'm sure Fabianki is committing illegal saves here. He's a metre or two off the line before the kick has been taken.

Sydney!

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Agree, looked like the referee had a word with him about it, although if he did, why not sanction him!

Karl Marx

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I noticed it on the 2nd Wigan pen. Did anything get mentioned after the game about it?

Sydney!

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12 Apr 2014 15:36:25
United talk to van Gaal, true or paper nonsense?

Fresh!

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They more than likely are "please mr Van Gaal don't break RVP in the summer".

lolface

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12 Apr 2014 14:31:34
Nick Ioannou could be released soon, Sutherland has been released.

Sydney!

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I thought he was a decent enough talent syd!?

Caolan_2

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So did I mate, apparently MU will not offer him a new deal.

Sydney!

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You know of any other young players leaving Syd?

Caolan_2

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Ben Barber too.

prodigal7

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11 Apr 2014 12:41:48
Afternoon Ed, El Shaarawy is another making his return from injury at the moment after missing most of the season for Milan. I believe City were interested in him last summer but that fell apart. Do you know if United have an interest in him for this summer? Thanks in advance.

elbow55

{Ed002's Note - None.}

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10 Apr 2014 18:16:24
Ed is it true that Gundogans career could be over due to this injury?

JK92

{Ed002's Note - They are targeting the start of next season and they will not be risking the player at all before then.}

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