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29 Jul 2014 16:15:39
Allegri has just said that after speaking to Vidal that he's happy to stay.

"Vidal will stay here and he's very happy about this," Allegri said. "I spoke with him about his fitness, we're happy he will stay with us."

Vidal has even posted a pic with the other teammates saying "ready for next season"

Trying to find a way to still be optimistic!

Nik Legend UK

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29 Jul 2014 17:07:05
It didn't say ready for next season only we are ready, but that could be anything, of course he will look as if he will still be with his team mates incase the deal falls through.

databass

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Wouldnt expect anything else tbh

Pardoe Pardoe

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Seem, s to me that Woody has done his business early to get a reprieve from last years debacle. I'm thinking that he won't buy anymore players, as Van Gaal is he'll bent on proving he can make a decent team with what we have right now. Shame I know as we def need a couple more big signings, but Woody has promised the earth once again and failed up to now. But people have bought the new kits already so why should he care. I know there is four weeks left and anything in football can happen. , But my piles are itching and when they itch, things turn out bad.

Rock the red

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From crappy media sources who just want pple to read any crap and provide all other vidal rumours positive n negative from here!

The fact is bid not even been made and it doesn't matter what a manager says!

Shutts

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The only thing I can think of to stay positive is that how many players in the past have said they're happen and then end up leaving?

9Matt2

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29 Jul 2014 14:08:42
Some false reports of barca coming to an agreement with hummels over a transfer. Sources close to the club have come out and said no agreement with either player or club as he is not a target for the club as they cannot meet the fee dortmund would find acceptable. Also added they aproached them for reus months ago and nothing came of this.
Utd have intrest in hummels and seems that they would be in pole position for him if a bid was made and accepted.

curtr_9

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29 Jul 2014 11:23:36
Ed002; I know City have shown interest in Barkley recently but it looks unlikely this summer, have we at all?

panebello

{Ed002's Note - Whilst others have shown interest I am not aware that any interest has been shown since Mr Moyes left.}

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Looks like Barkley might have signed a new 4 year deal with Everton at £65k a week

MS

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Just signed 3 year deal with everton

Bakes

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29 Jul 2014 11:00:11
A lot of sites are suddenly reporting that Vidal has verbaly agreed to join united, no idea if there's any substance to this but this is a rumor site!

RedAndy94

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29 Jul 2014 10:55:52
EL M3RCURIO says Arturo Vidal has verbally Agreed to join Manchester United this summer. The Seria A champions are Set to revieve $80 mil(47.1m EUR), while United have offered The Chilean International a salary worth $18mil(10.6m) a Year.

If this is true then its time to celebrate EID :) :)

MU_DEVIL

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Does anyone know how reliable El Mercurio are? I've seen links to their articles a few times this summer, but I don't know how credible they are. Thanks.

Son of Sir Matt

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About as reliable as any media outlet.

Simon_Ghost_Riley

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I like the way they call him ' the steering wheel '

kidder23

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29 Jul 2014 09:30:04
De Vrij confirmed by Lazio (for 6.7m!). I would only say that we've missed out here if we fail to land Vermaelen or Hummels

cnk

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Thought we made a mistake by not pursuing de vrij but on the bright side just heard kagawa could be wanted by dortmund so there might be something happening re hummels or different position, reus . fingers crossed

cookyman

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29 Jul 2014 07:57:12
ED how realistic is the Cavani to United rumour?

Surely we have other areas to focus on before going out and buying an overly expensive striker.

MUMBAI_BOY

{Ed002's Note - I don't know of rumours, but as has been explained, Manchester United are one of the clubs that has been interested in Cavani, and Cavani might leave Paris.}

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28 Jul 2014 23:15:41
Napoli intrested in fellaini. Loan offer more than actual transfer. Maybe transfer if major player leaves napoli.

curtr_9

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I would happily swap him for Hamsik

*Keeps dreaming*

-SB-

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Mertins wouldn't be a bad swap, very unlikely but would be a good bit of business, wouldn't cost us anything and would sort out our wide problems and add some pace up front.

-LA-

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I hope we keep Felliani. As a luxury, and impact player, his value could be second to none. How much was Solskjaer's goal worth in 99, in addition to all the late goals deciding title matches and fa cup tie's. A player that can really change the game, can prove their weight in gold over the course of their career.

Look at what happened in the wolrd cup when the Netherlands faced Mexico. LVG changed his tactics to long balls into the box in the last 10 minutes and they scored 2 late goals to go through. Who better than Felliani to come on and fill the role of target man in such situations?

LVG only needs to give him 20 starts a season - carling cup. fa cup- some small games in the league and big games away from home where a more cautious and defensive system is employed (meaning felliani won't have to run!).

Then he can feature another 10 games from the bench, and get enough playtime through the season to be happy at his involvment.

Since we paid the money already it would be a waste to get rid of him now for 10-15 million. Unlike Nanis and Andersons, this is a player that could prove invaluable if used in the right way. Felliani could still become a Man Utd legend if he develops an expertise as an impact player.

Hope we don't sell him.

RedIsotope

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28 Jul 2014 17:31:04
Hi Ed just a quick question, couldn't see anything recent from you on the search, do you have any new information regarding Di Maria? Most reports seem to suggest he's off to PSG but some say he would prefer a move to us. Seems like it would be too much in one window for us if reports relating to Vidal etc are to be believed

cnk

{Ed002's Note - Madrid are looking to raise money and Jorge Mendes has been looking for a deal for the player and has persuaded Real Madrid to provide a price at which they would sell him - which is really, really high. He is however in danger of pricing him out of the market with some pretty outrageous wage demands. I cannot see MU paying that sort of money.}

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There's rumours going around that he wants as much as the likes of Messi and Ronaldo. He's a good player, but he isn't worth those sorts of pennies.

Sydney! Sydney!

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29 Jul 2014 11:24:06
Hi Ed002, Does united have any interest in Faghouli the Algerian? Thanks

God Created United

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in Feghouli but not from MU.}

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28 Jul 2014 14:36:54
Hi eds,

I have been told we are in talks with Freddy gaurin, can you update me on the situation with him please

Thanks in advance :)

BIG V

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United are not talking to Guerin.}

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BIG V, would much rather we sign Vidal or Turan. We should swap Hernandez for Andrea Ranocchia CB of inter instead of Guerin IMO play along side Shaw, Evans/Jones. Di Maria or Rues.
Scouts to find a world class upcoming CB for next season transfer window?

OHx

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I think Guarin may become of interest to Juve if they decide to sell Vidal as they were interested in Guarin last year.

Singh Singh

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27 Jul 2014 13:30:11
Today could be a huge day in our Vidal pursuit. He and his agent are set for talks with Juventus officials. I think if he says he wants to go then there will be a big £40 million bid going in this coming week. I'm going away for a couple of days anyway, so here's hoping!

Fresh!

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No matter what he says I expect us to bid for him. If we don't then wow. Just wow.!

9Matt2

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I think we'll know one way or the other this time next week.

redseven

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Its been said juve would sell one of vidal or pogba possibly both. News today reporting pogba is being offered a new contract.
Obviously just guess work but i'm hoping that is the biggest indication yet they expect vidal to leave.

Domi B

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Please mate forget about Vidal.
No point having hope when someone can't do there job properly. Only knows how to get sponsors. But useless on signing players. I'm taking about My Ed Woodwoody.
Everything is says is lie. It's a mind game.
Remember he said there is no limit how much utd can spend, but why would you then say we won't pay over the odds. Pure fooling fans.
Please someone show Real Madrids squad for example.

Ash.da.1

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If we get him, great, but if we don't it's not the end of the world. We have Herrera, while is a fantastic player, while Fletcher looked good the other day, and Carrick shouldn't be out for too long.

We need defensive reinforcements more urgently.

Thorne

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Personally I wander whether the transfer is already done.

The deal being announced in the 2nd week of August seems to make sense.

Man U can announce the deal in 2 weeks, and motivate the current squad in the meantime, given LVGs declaration he wanted 3-4 weeks to assess his squad.

Juventus can pretend that Conte was being irrrational and looking out for his own interests in resigning.
- If Vidal's signature comes a month after Contes departure, the idea that "Juventus are letting their best players leave without a fight, " can be contended by the Juve hierachy.

RedIsotope

{Ed007's Note - All hail Syd II......

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007, I don't and never have thought that MU have signed Vidal. But there are rumours suggesting that MU are about to bid, that's not just from 002, but CNN are reporting it too, or one of their journalists. I hope they are both right.

Sydney! Sydney!

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Think RedIsotope is spot on.
Or rather I hope .

Halesini Halesini

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27 Jul 2014 19:48:07
I thought juve had all ready spent the vidal money?

jred

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27 Jul 2014 22:13:25
If the deal for Vidal was already done he would be on a plane to USA to prepare for the season, no mind games or tricks for this or that! That's just pure hope over common sense. I hope he does come and would be best signing since rvp

Mufc_lee Mufc_lee

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I said I believed Juve were spending the money they know they will be getting for Vidal or Pogba. Only a bird brain would think that's me saying we have signed Vidal. Hmmm!

Sydney! Sydney!

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Can anyone explain why juve are in such a bad financial position and have to sell one of their stars please? They've won the league the past few seasons and don't seem to of spent that much, I didn't think. Surely they should be reasonably secure? Thanks

.eden.

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Eden, they recently built a new stadium which would have cost a lot and when they were forced to drop down into the second division a few years ago they missed out on a lot of TV money and two years of European football.

Ozzy

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Eden, I think much like Arsenal over the last decade they are currently being hamstrung by the cost of their new stadium.

Huggy76

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Ahh thanks very much for clearing that up for me :)

.eden.

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26 Jul 2014 17:02:30
Hi Eds, this question is mainly for Ed002 as they gave the information before but if anyone else knows then great. A month or so ago Ed002 mentioned we were looking at Hector Moreno. He was injured at the World Cup but do we maintain an interest or has that gone now?

Thanks as always.

Rjmanutd Rjmanutd

{Ed002's Note - Moreno will be out until 2015.}

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26 Jul 2014 17:02:06
Hi, question for Ed002 if you have time. I know from what's been said we are trying very hard to sign hummels and he's our number one target and seems all our concentration lies with him, but it seems risky as there's a good chance we won't manage to sign him.

I also saw the other day you said De Vrij was looking Napoli bound which I was very disappointed with as I was hoping we would be trying very hard for him as well, and thought we had a good chance of signing him.

The other name mentioned is vermealen but I'm not sure if that's just paper talk. So are there any other genuine back up targets if we are unable to sign hummels? We desperately need one after losing our two most experienced center backs. Thanks in advance and no mention of Vidal :)

Danno!

{Ed002's Note - It is Lazio trying to do a deal for de Vrij. I am sure the manager still sees him as an option.}

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Thanks for the reply ed

Danno!

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26 Jul 2014 06:37:21
Hi eds, everyone,

Ed002, is a bid for Vidal still expected? Also do we have anymore serious midfield targets if nothing comes of this Vidal situation?

Cheers

TQred

{Ed002's Note - A bid is expected to be made.}

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26 Jul 2014 06:35:52
Ed002, can I ask, did MU make that bid in the end? Thanks.

Sydney! Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - Not yet.}

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Thanks Ed, it's an old post but thanks for the reply. I have my fingers, toes and balls crossed (ouch) hoping the bid is made. Thanks again. We do appreciate your info.

Sydney! Sydney!

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Same here Ed thanks for the info.

Singh Singh

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26 Jul 2014 13:34:53
Ok, I say this every time so don't shoot the messanger.
The Vidal deal is still on and the guy where the this info comes from says he is 99.9999995 sure this will happen and within the next two weeks.
He has also heard there are 4 more deals in the pipeline but thinks at least one is a youth player.
Now this guy says the rumour mill is rife at Carrington and goes on like this all through the transfer window but is more reliable than the crap in the paper's.

As a word of warning this guy can be wrong as I once heard from him that Alexis Sanchez was 80% done before he went to Barcelona, he said the deal was a lot closer that the papers said.

Now I was not going to post this as I could look a right eeejit if it does not come off, but it is a rumour site and this is a rumour, so I thought what the hell.

stalyvegas red

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Right or wrong this is the sort of thing us fans Want from a fan site and makes this site a must.we all know deals can fall apart at the last minute but updates like this keep us going
Thanks

Brad76

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26 Jul 2014 23:10:30
Staly,

Don't worry you are in good company with the eejits on here, well explained post, said where your source is from and where you got your information, if it's wrong it's wrong, you aren't saying it will happen. Good rumour.

GDS2 GDS2

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Absolutely right GDS2, I get so fed up of people slating others for posting rumours on a rumour site.

Jase

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25 Jul 2014 18:25:18
Hi ed question if you have a minute?

Do you know if we still have an interest in Carvalho? And would we bid for him if we can't get vidal? Or are we trying to sign both?

Thanks ed

JamalSanchez JamalSanchez

{Ed002's Note - There seems to be none anymore.}

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Thanks Ed

JamalSanchez JamalSanchez

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I wonder why that might be

Droylsden red

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Ed you mentioned the other day a bid for Vidal was imminent do you know if a bid went in? Cheers in advance

Ryan12

{Ed002's Note - I wish I had said nothing and will not say such things again.}

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His preferred option is strootman

Melwing28

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The 37 million buy out might be the problem. I really like the look of the lad but that is a ridiculous amount for a relatively unproven player.

2toms

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25 Jul 2014 14:11:51
Di Maria is set to make a decision within next 24 hours on to join united or psg

News desk

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25 Jul 2014 14:26:15
I wonder which he'll choose.

Simon_Ghost_Riley

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Saw this on Facebook and Twitter so no legs in it. Plus he is a mercenary he will go with te money

simonmorris10 simonmorris10

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I have a feeling he will choose PSG. however if he does join us how do we think he will fit into the current system?
Not sure he is a wing back, could be used in a front 2 or the Mata role but may not be a natural fit this year. Good player that he is

Brad76

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Is he coming from spain in the same car as mirrande

simonmorris10 simonmorris10

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There is no room for him in the system Van Gaal plays. Would be very surprised if Utd are in for him at all

danny14

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If he does join I wonder who drops out, Mata or Rooney.

Fresh!

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Has mirandas flight got delayed though? you said he was flying to manchester for a medical and that was 4 weeks ago.

stretfordender1980

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Has Miranda arrived in manchester yet. It's been almost a month since he was 'on his way'. Surely he's close now even if he was walking.

Danny Pughnited

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Di Maria is interested in 2 things:

(1) Loads and loads of Wonga!

(2) Champions League Footie

. We can't match PSG on either front and even though I am a born and bred Manc who loves the place Manchester doesn't compare to Paris.

I wonder which club he will choose?

King Eric

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There's something Slimy about Di Maria, he has those Lizard like features that just seem creepy. I hope he goes to PSG, over priced, over hyped and overly Reptilian.

I hope Nani goes for similar reasons.

The Beast The Beast

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25 Jul 2014 19:17:01
I never understand why people think Paris is so great.

My impression everytime I go there is that it's dirty, it has an exceptionally high concentration of rude and unpleasant people, and I've never had as many people try to rob me in broad daylight on a crowded street in one day as I have on several different occasions in Paris.

I can see why places like Barcelona, Rome or Naples would attract a player to want to live there, but not Paris.

Thorne

{Ed002's Note - Rome is the absolute pits.}

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Haha inside info newsdesk is back

Dustbin

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Paris, when they can sort out a way around FFP.

jayred123

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Dont understand peoples hatred of di maria the games isaw last year some of them he was unplayable.he is a quality player don't know wether its just the media, but if he signed for us he would massively improve the team.

johndenton

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Did maria is off to psg if all the pics on the internet are to go by. psg shirts di maria 11.

same as suarez leaked shirts couple of days before he signed.

ild rather not waste the money on him we have adnan imo can be a hell of a lot better

mufc90

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Di Maria to PSG could be the move that triggers a few big moves mainly because of ffp and also psg looking to offload . Would like to miss out on Di Maria and jump straight in for Moura who could become available

cookyman

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25 Jul 2014 09:59:54
Rumours going round that we are ready to make a bid for Memphis depay of psv. looks a top prospect but don't see where he would fit into our squad. obviously I am not ed woodward or lvg but think we should be concentrating on defence and defensive minded midfeilders. but to be honest would not say no to depay :)

mufc salford

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25 Jul 2014 10:26:33
He'd fit in perfectly on the wing

Caolan_2

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What about januzai i'd rather see him get more games this season

mufc salford

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Adnan on one side, Depay on the other?!

Caolan_2

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That will only work i'd lvg decides not to play a 3-5-2 formation. because we have shaw on the left and it seems it will be his main formation

mufc salford

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Coalan were not playing with wingers? 2 wingbacks which he isn't one, so if that's the system were playing we don't need to sign a winger we need to sign another CM

Stand-United

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Rumour is that if we do sign him we will loan him back and bring him in next year.young prospect and another year could really develop. ALso by then we may be in CL so need the additional players and be playing 433 which would suit him more.

Brad76

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25 Jul 2014 09:21:43
If anyone has any REAL info on the Vidal situation it would be much appreciated!

Gutted to read his comments about not coming to Utd, hope it's a smokescreen to deflect attention but doesn't sound like it is.

Would be devastated if he ended up at Liverpool and it would make us look a right laughing stock.

Right now I get a grim feeling we might not make any more signings. Don't know why but I can see Ed 'the equalizer' Woodward saying were happy with our squad and looking forward to the new season!

King Eric

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Read around it quite a bit and from what I have seen he has said he is not flying to Manchester, he is flying to Juve and that he doesn't know what will happen in the future but he is happy - a pretty standard answer really.

Fresh!

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The quotes have since been changed as the video was verified. He was asked at a Chilean airport whether he was going to Manchester, he replied. "No, no."

That was it. But Sky Italia who turned it into "Vidal will not sign for Manchester United" have backtracked due to the video being public. Very funny really.

Liverpool have zero chance of signing Vidal. There isn't even any interest, it's an invention by the Daily Fail. Vidal is out of their league. They have Joe Allen.

Sydney! Sydney!

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And Ronaldo was "very happy" at United. Money talks.

9Matt2

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Totally agree with the posters comments/worries. It is becoming a bit drawn out with the vidal on/off transfer . still think the figures quoted are a lot to pay on the back of, ok a good performance in the world cup but still 27 year old with reducing value and his style of play is a bit worrying with respect to getting injured- would prefer to see pogba coming back even if it takes a bit more cash

cookyman

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Yeah Twitter has exploded saying the move is still on and that the interview was twisted and that it was all said to prevent upsetting Juve fans. Everyone is saying this will hot up from Monday and one Twitter 'agent' says the deal is 100% happening. indeed I guess :/

MikeCope83

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King Eric the only real info I have is that you need to lighten up and man up.

carloto carloto

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Cookyman? A few good performances at the World Cup. You clearly haven't watched much football over the last 2-3 seasons Vidal has been one of the top all round midfielders in the world and any change on £40 mill would still be good business.

Ryan12

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Hasn't Vidal himself said that his future will be sorted once he is back from his holiday? Therefore there was zero chance of anything happening over the last couple of weeks. And if everyone hasn't learnt not to trust what is said on the internet they need to take themselves into the corner of the room their in and have a little word with themselves. The only reason it seems drawn out is because the papers keep making out they know what's going on.

chuffer

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You can look at it another way. He was asked, Are you going to Manchester? and said "No, no, no". Then said jokingly "I'm going to Lazio".

Which if he was being sarcastic, implies, "Of course i'm going to Manchester, do you think i'm going to Lazio or something?"

You can look at things many ways. The media twist everything to get readers. Be patient, i'm confident he will come to Utd :)

danny14

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Syd's right, italian media just made a mountain out of a molehill with what vidal said and dailyfail over here have just done the same. I doubt no one will know till a few days in to a transfer agreement the detail will start pouring out. expect it to be all identical reports from everyone.

curtr_9

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Come on. I think its clear we will not get Vidal. This is Snider all over again

Get a grip and face facts.

Bakes

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Seriously Getting Bored of People stating he Said he is not coming here. He Simply stated he was not flying to Manchester. A statement has been taken out of Context and so many people are Eating it up like Candy.

I am not stating he is coming but His Response and Body Language did not by any means rule it out.

Jrobbm

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Ive heard from a member of staff from football side of things at ot that it a done deal. Just need vidal back from hols and juve to sign replacement

I can 100 per cent guarantee I heard direct from staff member n don't see why he would lie

ralphm41

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Yes Bakes, exactly the same as Snider!

GDS2 GDS2

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King Eric
I would be VERY surprised if we do not sign anyone!
Do not take he lack of activity to heart, LVG is new to the club, has new ideas and his own formations etc. He has to see what we have and then decide what we need.
We have players at the squad who may work wonders with how he wants to play. Buying every top player doesn't mean you will win everything, its down to the system that you play.
You never know, maybe one of our younger players may be able to provide something that we need.
Be patient, we don't want to panic buy just for the hell of it like last season.

Melwing28

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Ryan 12- I have probably seen as much football as most and I didn't say he wasnt a good player but his value and prominance has risen with the transfer talk to man utd and the world cup. if he was that great why hasn't he been snapped up in the last 2-3 seasons? at the end of the day facts are facts, and he ain't getting younger and with his style of football, imo, he is prone to injury and at his age although far from finished I think we could get a better deal for a longer period by going for someone else-chill man:)

cookyman

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25 Jul 2014 13:01:37
My view on this is don't believe what you read in the press positive or negative. If we believe them then we have signed and sealed Vidal about 50 times this summer already but have lost out on him just as many times.

The most viable "source" I'd imagine anyone on this site has is the information provided by Ed002. The Ed is asked probably 10-15 times per day who we are signing so if there are any updates they will say so however, this isn't football manager and deals can be very complicated. From the information the Ed has given us we are very interested, have either made a bid or are about to make a further bid.

Rjmanutd Rjmanutd

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25 Jul 2014 14:13:40
No, we have one LB and 3 CB, and one of the bosses favourite systems uses all of them at once. We can't rely entirely on youth players for backup, so we will still sign cover for Shaw and another CB at minimum this window.

We don't want to disrupt the team with too many signings at once, so attacking signings may wait for now, but we will get the essentials.

Thorne

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Who's Snider baked? i'm sure we tried to sign someone called Schnyder a few years back?, hm must be mistaken :/

Mxtionless

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For gods sake he will either sign or he won't! if not we will look at someone else.
As for Liverpool getting him I think there's more chance of signing 1970's Pele. He would not even be on their radar nor they on his.

so many drama queens and still 6 weeks of the window to go :(

dean1210 dean1210

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Must of missed that one Mxtionless because I know we were after Wesley Sneijder, Fergie must have kepy Schnyder well under wraps

Langers7274

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Cookyman I honestly don't see how the worldcup has raised his value he was good but not the standard he has been for juve. My head says sign a deeper cm but my heart wants us to sign him.

Ryan12

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. 9Matt2. Ronaldo was very happy at United, it was his boyhood dream 2 play 4 Madrid, we all knew he was going 2 Madrid, we got an extra year out of him because he loved United/FERGIE he left United 'very happy' but sad cause he was leaving, it had NOTHING 2 do with money, United did the honourable thing & let him go, u make it sound like we got rid of him 4 the money(money talks u said) if Madrid offered United the 80million they offered & Ronaldo didn't want 2 leave trust me United wouldn't of sold him. so b4 knocking Ronaldo let's get the facts right fella, otherwise u look a bit of a Charlie. Tonguer10

Tonguer10

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I'm a huge united fan but to be honest all the talk about being the biggest club in world doesn't wash.
We can't attract the players we need, look at Madrid, Ronaldo, Bale and Rod (spelling) identified who they wanted and they got there men.
We are trying to do it again on the cheap, go and get what we need because at the moment we are no way strong enough for top 4 and we all konw it.
The last four or five transfer windows have been very frustrating and this is going the same way.
Why do LVH and DM need that much time to look at the squad when we all can see where we need players and they will have to pay for it, so go for it and stop messing around.
I agree wit a lot of the posts in that I really worry where we will be com e the kick off.
If we honesty believe we are the biggest club in the world then act like it and get what we need, or this year will be very much like last year.

Andy

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. Andy25. being the biggest club in the world is not determined by how much money u spend each season fella. if u were a United fan you'd know why there the biggest club in the world, u my friend sound like a chitty fan, buy, buy, buy & not give English or any youth a chance. with your attitude England will never win another World Cup. just saying. Tonguer10

Tonguer10

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Well said Tonguer.

Utd buy the right player, not the biggest name, always have.

Sometimes the right player costs a lot, sometimes they don't, either way it's about what qualities the player brings, how they play and how they fit into the team, never about how well known they are.

Utd don't usually go for "marquee" signings, apart from RVP (who wasn't exactly a big money deal) the last one was probably Veron.

That's not doing it on the cheap, it's doing it the way Utd have done it all through our successful period.

Real don't "identify their man" they just pick the biggest name they think they can get, and throw money at the owning club.

Utd DO identify their man. They figure out what the weaknesses in the team are, what attributes to look for in a player to fix the weaknesses, then they find out which players have the right attributes, and whether they are available. If there's no-one available, they won't panic buy and get the wrong player (Fellaini aside), they wait until the right player is available.

Compare our success over the last 15 year's or so against Real Madrid's, that should tell you that the "Galactico" strategy of just buying the best players regardless of how they fit togther, doesn't work as well as our way.

Thorne

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Tonguer10, you missed the point I was making (even if badly), not a city fan, but if we want Vidal and we believe he is what we need then we need to go and get him, not hold back.
I'm not saying we should spend the most money far from ii, but if you believe what we have now is enough to finish above city and Chelsea you are mistaken.
We do need investment (some would argue that we have for years) in a lot of areas, The point about Madrid, is they go and do it, ours drag and drag and we often don't get our man.
Hope that makes it clearer and I hope I'm wrong and the players come in.

Andy25

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Andy25 - What makes you so sure Vidal is what we need?
He is great, but we just bought Herrera to play the same role, what we NEED now is at least one central defender, cover for left back, and ideally a young defensive midfielder as short term cover and long term replacement for Carrick.

Vidal is a luxury. It would be nice to get him, because he is one of the best in the world, but we certainly don't NEED him.

Thorne

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How can one of the best midfielders on the planet be a luxury when our squad features Fellani, cleverly, carrick, Anderson. Unbelievable.

jaimej79

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Because Vidal wouldn't replace any of them. He'd be taking Herrera's place, because Herrera and Vidal play the same role.

That is why we need a more defensive midfielder. Not another box-to-box midfielder.

Thorne

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I think Herrera can play number 6 or 8 and I don't thin the same 11 play the same formation every week

jaimej79

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Yes, he can play that role, but he isn't that good at it, and it's going to be a real shame if we paid that much for a player that good and then stick him in his 3rd or 4th best position, when we already have Carrick, Fletcher and even Jones who can all do that role better than him.

We need someone who is actually good in the no 6 role.

That's why Vidal would be a luxury.

Thorne

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23 Jul 2014 21:45:51
Just a note Strootman is back in full training and told an Italian journo today "Louie rang me to ask how I am feeling, such a nice man"
Whats the odds we are waiting on Stroots before going in for Vidal or maybe both, now that would be awesome.
I'll bet a pound to a pinch of rubbish its Stroots we go for

Pardoe Pardoe
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23 Jul 2014 22:28:02
I hope so. Strootman and Herrera could be an excellent pairing in central midfield. Both good passers, energetic, defensively aggressive, strootman to play the holding role, with Herrera given freedom to push forward and link up with Mata, Januzaj, Kagawa etc.

With Herrera signed, I've been very dubious about the Vidal rumours so far, because it seeks silly to spend 70m+ on two box-to-box midfielders, but not get anyone in to play alongside them in a lire defensive role, especially now Carrick is injured.

Plus I think the clever technical play of Herrera may well mesh better with the likes of Mata etc, than the more powerful style of Vidal would.

Thorne

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If we dropped our interest in Vidal to buy Strootman, I will be p1ssed.

Sydney! Sydney!

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I am with you Syd, after months of negotiating and then ending up with strootman will be a massive waste of time negoatiating for Vidal.

Singh Singh

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Yes agree Syd although now it appears that may be a nonsense made up by someone

Pardoe Pardoe

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Don't get me wrong, I think Vidal is the best player of his type in the world right now, and he would be a great signing.

However, having already signed Herrera, I don't see how Vidal fits, unless Herrera is going to be an expensive understudy. I guess they could play together, with whichever one is in the better position going forward while the othe covers, but that kind of understanding doesn't come overnight.

Otherwise, either one of them could play the holding role, but both of them are best when they have freedom to come forwards from central midfield, so it would be wasting their best qualities.

Thorne

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Strootman is not half the player Vidal is and we already have better players in the squad. I would be pissed and he is not going to move the needle for us where vidal will.

God Created United

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24 Jul 2014 08:02:31
I'd be happy if we got him. How much is he worth do you reckon or how much would Roma accept?

9Matt2

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We need Vidal.

Strootman is a nice to have, Vidal is a need to have if we want to be up there with the best again.

I wouldn't be surprised if we sign both, Stroots will be instead of a more expensive Carvalho imo, not Vidal.

The Beast The Beast

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24 Jul 2014 10:50:39
Cannot see us dropping interest, we will likely go for both.

Fresh!

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Strootman always has and always will be one of LVG's main targets. if we do not get him in this window, he will most certainly get him in the winter transfer window.

Melwing28

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Is no one else concerned that with one quality box-to-box midfielder signed (and not for a small fee either), we seem to be more interested in signing a second, rather than a defensive midfielder as cover and long term replacement for Carrick?

Historically, two attack minded or box-to-box midfielders don't often work well together (although there are exceptions), so we would still be looking at Vidal/Herrera partnered by someone like Fellaini when Carrick isn't available. That's a major concern for me.

Vidal AND a defensive mid would be great, but if it's one or the other, the defensive mid has to be the priority.

The way Strootman has played for the Netherlands shows he has the passing ability to start attacks and keep possession, and the discipline and defensive awareness to disrupt attacks and protect the back four.

Thorne

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GCU

And what players in our squad are better at playing the number 6 role better than strootman?

sparky71

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I personally think strootman would be a sound signing (speaking simply about a fit player), however, a big risk after so long out with injury. Vidal has stated he "isn't going to Manchester" which is kick in the proverbial's. Hererra looked great but we need a bit more than fetch backing up. Tough.

ish1982

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24 Jul 2014 23:11:27
So looks like were not getting Vidal then lads?

Lewis shaw

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We never were going to get him. I'd be surprised if we make another signing now.

Simon_Ghost_Riley

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25 Jul 2014 01:39:27
Is Vidal saying he's not going to Manchester a smokescreen while the deal is being finalised?
He's also covering himself in case the transfer falls through.
Also, if you're contracted to a club, you're not going to openly admit that you want to join a specific club!
Ronaldo denied that he was leaving United then ended up at Real. Likewise Suarez and many other cases.

Lutzy1980 Lutzy1980

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LVG said the other night that the squad is imbalanced because we have 4 number 10s in other words he will probably look to get rid of one of our more attack minded players so to go for vidal wouldn't make sense anyway. yeah he is a quality player but if lVG feels the squad is already imbalanced then he will more likely go for strootman than vidal. we have a quality player in Herrera plus mata rooney kagawa and janazay (bad spelling) so expect no vidal and strootman coming in

mufc salford

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Agree with Simon_Ghost_Riley.

Can see us sticking with this squad into the new season now.

Not getting hopes up about any more players joining.

King Eric

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25 Jul 2014 10:31:51
Strootman would be a great signing to replace carrick "IF" we get Vidal too, if he's instead of Vidal we've took the cheap option which could backfire if his knee doesn't hold out. Personally i'd be gutted!

Mufc_lee Mufc_lee

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25 Jul 2014 14:13:21
There's no way we will be sticking with this squad and not signing anyone new.

I have been skeptical about Vidal all along, but we still need at least one decent centerhalf, and cover for Shaw, absolute minimum.

We currently have 3 first team central defenders. Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see some youngsters given a fair bit of game time, but if we use the 3412 system much, that's all 3 of them in use, so we need at least one more otherwise we will be overdependent on the youth.

Similarly, we need a backup and competition for Shaw at left back/wing back.

I will not be surprised if we stick with our current attacking players (hopefully the "four number tens" comment hints at Fellaini leaving) for this season, and start rebuilding the front next summer.

I do expect us to sign cover for Michael Carrick, although Daley Blind could do that and cover Shaw too. And unless Cleverly gets his confidence back and remembers what a forward pass is, we'll probably look for a backup for Herrera too (again, Strootman can cover both the defensive and box-to-box midfield roles, so he'd be a solid choice here), although I won't be surprised if we wait until January or next summer for this too.

Too many signings at once is disruptive, and we always new the rebuilding would be spread out over a few windows, but critical positions will be covered first as a priority (especially cb and lb).

Thorne

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25 Jul 2014 14:14:01
Why do people think we NEED Vidal?

We already have an extremely good young player in his position (Herrera), who is probably the best central midfielder we've had in the last 5 years or more (probably since Scholes was still close to his peak).

However, in the other central midfield position, we have Carrick, who is injured, and past his peak, Fletcher, who is also past his peak, and who has never got back to the level he was at 5 years ago, or Fellaini, who, well, I'm not even going to go there.

We NEED an understudy/cover/long-termreplacement for Carrick FAR more than we need Vidal. We also NEED at least one central defender, possibly 2 if we are going to be using 3 at the back regularly, and we NEED cover for Luke Shaw.

Vidal would be a luxury.

Strootman on the other hand would be a perfect player for the defensive role, and he can also cover the more advanced role if Herrera is injured. It doesn't necessarily need to be him, but he covers both roles, and LVG knows what him, making him a near perfect fit.

It's no good buying big name players if you don't get the players you really NEED first.

Thorne

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25 Jul 2014 17:41:16
Ish- backing up Herrera is one of the reasons Strootman makes so much sense. He can play Carricks role, protecting the back 4 and spraying the ball around from deep, but he can also cover the box to box role if Herrera is injured or just needs a break.

No, he isn't anywhere near as good at that role as Vidal, but he can cover both roles, with Carrick and Herrera each specialising in their own role.

Thorne

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25 Jul 2014 20:26:32
I just want to give an alternative view.

LVG obviously likes players who fit his system.

I have a hunch he might go for Daley Blind as the midfield anchor (number 6 role) but he's also flexible enough to slot in at left back and cover for Shaw when he pushes forward to support the attack.

De Vrij can also slot in at right back when Valencia push forward on the right flank.

Vermaelen would be the leader at the heart of the defence.

To sum up, 4-3-3 (Valencia-De Vrij-Vermaelen-Shaw; Blind-Herrera-Mata; Rooney-Welbeck-RvP).

This can then revert to a three-man defence (De-Vrij-Vermaelen-Blind) when Valencia and Shaw attack. Herrera would then drop back and cover Blind as the midfield anchor (if required) and Mata, Rooney, Welbeck and RvP would cause the opposition endless problems with their movement.

Versatility, adaptability and flexibility to be able to play in different roles as well as the technique and right attitude would surely be prerequisites for LVG.

Players moving into various positions during the game is a throwback to the 'Total Football' philosophy but obviously with LVG's own stamp on it!

Lutzy1980 Lutzy1980

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23 Jul 2014 17:42:40
Hi Edds, thanks for all the work you guys do it is much appreciated! Just wondered if you had any info on Benatia as I think he would be an excellent signing.

Thanks!

Asho

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath over a move to OT.}

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23 Jul 2014 12:54:27
Ed002, you mentioned Cuadrado needs to make a decision on his transfer to Barcelona in the next week. Do you know what might be holding up an immediate acceptance on his part? Or is it simply a case of being prudent?

BornIntoIt BornIntoIt

{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

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23 Jul 2014 12:54:11
Ed002, has this imminent bid for Vidal been made yet? All the reports for the bigger papers who are often briefed are adamant that no contact has been made for Vidal and it's not happening so quite a bit of conflicting info.

panebello

{Ed002's Note - You need patience.}

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23 Jul 2014 15:13:34
More good news as Barca may no longer be interesting in Cuadrado as they have signed a different right sided player to replace Alves.

TOT66

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23 Jul 2014 15:24:13
Who? Only player I can see they have signed is Mathieu and he is a CB/LB?

Redrosie

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Jeremy Mathieu is not a Replacement for Alves as he plays LB and can play at CB aswell.

JaMax JaMax

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Who have they signed?

Sydney! Sydney!

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Wouldn't call that good news cuardado is over rated and a waste of mone

Ryan12

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I think Cuadrado could be a flash in the pan type player. I'd be concerned if we spent a lot on him.

Fresh!

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23 Jul 2014 16:40:28
I completely agree, Cuadrado is massively over rated in my opinion especially for the amount that is being touted. 25-30 million is a joke. Nobody will buy him this summer if that is what the club he's at is asking for.

Simmo1975

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Why is it good news for Manchester United that Barcelona may or may not be interested in a player?

carloto carloto

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Cuardado is a brilliant winger, I wouldn't be so sure of him at right back for us

Anon Anon

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Cuardado would be another Nani very greedy and loses the ball to much total example of world cup fever. Personally think it would be a massive mistake to sign him can't believe we were not in for sanchez

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23 Jul 2014 14:37:55
Afternoon everyone

Just want to share my opinion on Van gaal being given the "green light" to break the world record transfer fee! Before we all get excited let's be realistic. The only players whom would do so are the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, bale etc. whom have all just signed new contracts or recently moved to their respected clubs. IMO I believe that it is just ed Woodward flexing our financial muscle after speculation that we just didn't haven the money to do so! The highest we will bid I think is €60 euro for Vidal! N that's if that even happens which I have on good authority that we will do so! Just a quick opinion post for you all to think about.

RedKez99

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If Vidal is €60 then I'll buy him. :-D

UnitedWeStand UnitedWeStand

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There are no available players to break the world transfer record but I am very confident that we will break our own record (not by much, £40m ish) for Vidal, who I think a deal is completed for but is being delayed until early August. Maybe that's what Ed was hinting at.

Ed is just hyping up the club to get some more sponsors and maybe even some players on board

danny14

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60 Euro for Vidal :O Surely he will cost more!

JaMax JaMax

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I don't think he is referring to buying a £100 million player. He is on about spending in excess of £150, £200 million which would be a record in terms of expenditure over one window.

Fresh!

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I know it might seem completely outlandish but shocking transfers like Messi to United can happen in football.

He seems disillusioned at Barca and the arrivals of other stars like Neymar and Suarez could steal his limelight and cause animosity.

Time for a fresh challenge?
Hoe about trying the Premier League and joining Van Gaal's exciting new revolution at a club on a par with Barca, if not even bigger.
Van Gaal also has Barca connections and can speak Spanish. With a sizable Spanish-speaking contingent at United, they would help him to settle.

I haven't even mentioned the commercial appeal of Adidas yet!
He would be the perfect poster boy to front their ground-breaking new deal.
World record kit deal with the world record transfer = a match made in heaven.

To coin their famous slogan: "Impossible is nothing"

Lutzy1980 Lutzy1980

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Dont think there is anyone available but do think that the figures being quoted regarding vidal and di maria are higher than if man utd were not NEEDING quality to get back to winning ways.This is starting to look a bit like last summers window although we have got 2 signings in the bag but I think the clubs think they can hold us to ransom. Would like to see de vries, de jong, possibly vlaar if a deal could be done(maybe young back to villa) get rid of some of the deadwood and see what happens in january

cookyman

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I think Messi is on his way down Lutzy - Kaka style. Once that yard that sets you apart goes, it hinders so many other facets of your game.

I'd honestly rather Vidal than Messi given the choice at the moment.

The Beast The Beast

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Beast, sadly I think you could be right about Messi.
Looks like there could be a deeper issue to explain his demeanour on the pitch these days, is he burnt out?

Lutzy1980 Lutzy1980

{Ed007's Note - *cough* Dr Fuentes & Lance Armstrong *cough*

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Hes a bit of a knob really stating the fact moneys no object, all prices now double

Burnt Chips

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Messi hasn't been that good for a couple of years now. he struggles massively without Xavi and Iniesta who themselves are massively on the decline.
plus could you see Messi really playing at places suc as QPR, or Stoke, or West Brom

Melwing28

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23 Jul 2014 14:17:46
Non-news story of the day so far.

The Express is reporting that according to the Galatassaray Chairman we have not made an offer for Wesley Sneijder. Me thinks he protests too much.

Or is it just a double bluff?

Help me. I'm an addict.

peashooter

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Well that's good news as far as i'm concerned because I don't want him here.

stretfordender1980

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Cannot see us making an offer at all. So no, I don't think it is a bluff.

Fresh!

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Lol, great post . I think we are all addicts this time of year .

m00dymanc63

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23 Jul 2014 02:48:08
Good morning lads and laddies, full time reader odd time poster,
Been reading this site a good bit(at least 3 times daily) the last 2 months, fair play to the eds, and all frequent posters on ere.
3 weeks ago I watched the Keane/Viera, best of enemies, and just around the same time the Arturo Vidal rumors started to really come to the boil, so I watched a bit of him back, you tube etc, he is the box to box midfielder, that the majority on here seem to crave, he is all action, i.e never afraid of a tackle, good eye for a pass, and goal, but there is one difference with himself and keane, there is a touch of class. Keane was great, brilliant, fantastic, the best, but when he opened his mouth he let himself down, always had too much to say, and rarely in a good way, but anyway what I really came on to say was that Vidal deal is done, Juve accepted an offer, down to finer details of personnel terms, agent looking for hose thrown in too, also vermalen should be done and dusted this time next week, Hummels will be his cb partner, but may have to wait for this as Klopp going to try and convince him to stay.

Thanks for reading

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Lorcan, are these your views or are you connected to the deals? Happy if these are true. however not so sure about the Hummels/Vermarlen partnership as thatcwould be 2 predominantly left sided players which never really works. I can see both coming in but a partnership of 1 plus either Jones/Smalling/Evans or a new edition of De Vries.
Obviously that gouges out the window if we do play 3 at the back!

Brad76

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23 Jul 2014 09:19:47
Can't really see that a hose will be a deal breaker but I did hear he was an avid gardener!

TOT66

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I think he ment to say his agent is looking for a couple of prostitutes thrown in.

Za_Kagawa

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"Thanks for reading" well thanks for robbing me of a few minutes of my life . Firstly Vidal is not as good as keane was has Vidal (no pun intended) had a "Juventus" moment like Keane, did he single handedly drag his team to a CL final? How as Vidal played in European competition, does Vidal have the same effect on his team as Keane . Also your "class" staement doesn't ring through, Vidal has been kind of stringing the media, Juve & Utd (to a certain degree) by not confirming his situation . There were rumours about Keane leaving Utd before he signed his last big contract but as soon as it was signed that was it no rumours he was staying at Utd . Vidal signe a 4+yr contract with Juventus 8mths ago and already is toying with his club and the media .I'm not sure what your idea of class is but Vidal is not showing it . Also your rumour is waffle although as I'm responding to your post a couple of days since you posted you may have come back with another scenario . #onehasashorttermmemory

Dougal Maguire

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22 Jul 2014 21:31:05
I wouldn't have minded us taking a gamble on Bojan, everyone knows how's talented he is, and at 23 still has a lot of time to prove it, for 3m or however much it was could have have been a gem or worst case a decent squad player.

Elroy!

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And if it didn't work out for him at United. Everybody would take it out on Van Gaal right?

9Matt2

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He looked incredible in his breakthrough season (it's odd to think that that was seven years ago now) but has gotten progressively worse with every passing year. He's still only 23 - but unfortunately I don't see him making it now. Maybe a move to a club like Stoke will do him good though?

redseven

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Sounds like Wilshire

Pardoe Pardoe

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Wilshere is a much better player than Bojan despite Bojan having more potential when he broke through. If I were to compare him with anybody it would be Jones - although again - Jones did not look anywhere near as good as Bojan at 16.

Bojan was easily as good as (if not better than) Neymar but was unfortunate to already be at a big club and didn't have the opportunities needed to develop the way he should have. I fear the same might happen to Adnan if we're not careful.

redseven

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More like Macheda.

HERBIE HERBIE

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I follow ajax as well as Utd. he was on loan there, he didn't stand out in the slightest in the Eredivisie, tbh he's really not that great. defo not Utd standard

MS85

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22 Jul 2014 20:30:08
Hi eds
With the info you gave us yesterday in mind, aside from CM and CB do you think we will look to strengthen the wide areas this summer or do you think that will happen in the next window or two? The reason I ask is I'm interested in knowing if we are still looking at Konoplianka and DiMaria.

Thanks

dean1210 dean1210

{Ed002's Note: Konoplyanka will be at West Ham if a move to the EPL happens. Di Maria remains a maybe but PSG have a package on the table that Real Madrid might find acceptable - the player certainly will. There will be a managed rebuild over three windows still - but too much too soon does not really help - as Spurs discovered last season. One wonders if Brendan Rodgers will utter the }

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Thanks ed and a very good point .

dean1210 dean1210

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Di Maria is wanting crazy money, I believe it's around or above £200k a week
I'm sorry but he's not worth that type of money
Plus if you watch him, he does tend to give the ball away ALOT.
I'd much rather get Rues

Melwing28

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Rafa Benitez did a similar thing which many people criticised him for. He too bought several average players instead of buying the more pricier quality player. Rodgers doesn't have the best past record either, he wasted millions on average players last summer, so he could be potentially wasting more significant amounts of money that Liverpool do not have. Buying players not much better than the youth they have. That could upset a few youngsters Then they all have to gel.

Sydney! Sydney!

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Thanks ed for the info I am surprised konoplyanka would want to go to West Ham after saying he wants to go to a champions league club.

It could be that Manchester United were put off by his attitude of only wanting to go to a champions league club.

Singh Singh

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With Shaw and Herrera bagged another CM and CB and we will compete at the top next season Woodward seems to be saying all the right things so hopefully we will do ok this window.
Hopefully by the end of the US tour Shaw and Herrera will be bedding in nice add two more to that and I think that will be enough until January anyway ;)

dean1210 dean1210

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Now now ed let's leave Brendan alone

Reusch Reusch

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