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24 Mar 2018 10:31:23
There are some that said Jesse wasn’t good enough and I guess there are still some that think he is at best a squad player but you have to give the lad credit. He keeps popping up scoring important goals and he plays with a smile on his face and seems to enjoy every moment. I’m so pleased for him and I hope he can take that final step and be consistent.


1.) 24 Mar 2018 16:25:04
He has always been highly thought off within the club. It was always accepted that he would take longer to find his feet due to his size. I read an interview with him where he said that Sir Alex always said he would become a real player when he's 25 like Tigana. I wonder how much of him really stepping up this season is down to him feeling that this year was going to be his year.

I did worry when we signed Sanchez as it was going to push either Lingard or Martial out of the side when arguably they we our best two forwards at that time. Maybe its time for Sanchez to be dropped for a game or two and make him fight for his place against players who are in form.

2.) 24 Mar 2018 16:40:40
Shaps, I don’t know why we bought Sanchez other than to stop City buying him. We had needs inother areas way before a left sided attacker was needed and even if he starts firing it just relegates Martial or Rashford. This smacks of Woodward and his marque signing obsession. I don’t want to upset you but if Bale is available you can bet your mortgage Ed will be there waving his chequebook.

3.) 24 Mar 2018 16:46:51
The thing with Jesse is you know he will work on the pitch and not hide. He has proven this year that he has more in the locker than people thought imo but he had the beginnings of a good season couple of years back when he got ani injury early on at Swansea I think. Change of personel and management has not deterred him and I think he has saved us a good few bob on bringing in a n other player.

4.) 24 Mar 2018 16:58:44
I was one of those thinking he wasn't going to be up to it and would be sold, at times I feel foolish, but then he can be anonymous far too often for me (like most of our attacking players) .

I still think in order for us to be competing at the very top we need better than Lingard. But if he improves again as much as he has over the past 18 months then he will deserve a regular berth in a top Utd team.

I love his energy and clever runs, maybe there is even more to come from him once we get back to playing proper attacking football and those runs will be picked out by players that currently refuse the pass and opt for 'safety' instead. I certainly would like him to impact games more consistently as well, 10 seconds of brilliance now and again is good, but we need more than that over a 90 minute match from an attacking midfielder.

5.) 24 Mar 2018 17:39:38
I agree Beastand that was my point about consistency. When he is good he is very good but often you can forget he is on the pitch, which is very frustrating when he gets himself in such good positions and scores such important goals. He needs to turn up for more games than he does, which I think he will if he continues to develop as he has done in the last year. And he is home grown which means a lot to me,

6.) 24 Mar 2018 17:52:11
Does he go missing or as mentioned above is it a case of him making good runs and his team mates not playing the creative pass to find him?

The best players score in the big games, which he does more consistently than those around him. H deserves his place in the team, he works hard, he offers movement and he can finish. I think he will thrive if we add more quality to the midfield. He is a bit of a social media whore, but as long as he performs on the pitch it’s not a problem. I wish pogba put half the effort in he does.

7.) 24 Mar 2018 18:33:58
Agree with all of the posts regarding jesse in some degree, better than dele alli in my opinion who plays a similar role especially this season.

8.) 25 Mar 2018 05:21:49
I must be the only one who doesn't yet rate him. He for me is going through his Smalling patch where player looks good for a season or 2 but with lingard it has only been 2 months rather than the whole season.

He was mostly anonymous until December and has been anonymous for most part since February. That is 2 good months in 3-4 years. Yes he scores some important goals from time to time but he going to have to perform much better to be more than a squad player.

9.) 25 Mar 2018 16:58:04
No MU player apart from De Gea has been sensational for long, playing good for some time and then playing poorly.

10.) 26 Mar 2018 14:14:47
CSM, that's not really fair, even if he's only started looking like a real top player this season, he's actually been doing well for the last couple of years. He was hardly "anonymous" before December anyway. 8 goals and assists in 17 games, 11 of which he played 30 minutes or less in, may not be setting the league on fire, but it's certainly not "anonymous".

Re: the consistency, I'm inclined to agree with Huggy. He's suffering from the way the team is playing, and would have a much more consistent impact if the runs he makes were picked out a bit more often by players behind him. Now, I'm not saying he's doing everything right, maybe he'd still be a bit inconsistent with players behind him looking for those runs and playing more positive football, but the point is that we don't really know, and I don't think it's fair to judge him too harshly when we don't really know how much of the inconsistency is down to him, and how much is down to the way the teamas a whole is playing.

I would really love to see Herrera used in a more advanced role, ahead of Matic rather than alongside him, where he can look to play the passes that someone like Lingard can feed on. It's too easy to see his great defensive performances last season and forget that he's a great passer of the ball, with an eye for getting team mates in behind the defence.

11.) 26 Mar 2018 14:23:10
That FA cup winning goal seemed to really kick him on and he’s improved a lot since then.


How you can say he’s been anonymous is beyond me, he’s probably scored more important goals than any other player in the last 2 years.

12.) 26 Mar 2018 14:53:27
Gds important goals don't mean consistency. Yes he scored against Chelsea and in fa cup final but can you remember a run of games until December where you could say he was consistently good. A first team player needs to be consistently good and unlike rashford or martial lingard isn't exactly in the youngster category.

Thorne he has been good this season but last season he had 5 goals and 3 assists in 42 games in lvg's last season he had 7 goals and 4 assists in 41 games. Those are not good figures and he needs get similar to his current nos before we can be sure that he has improved rather than going through a purple patch.

Also where exactly will he play next season jose wants savic added to the team and jorginho as replacement for carrick, so we most likely will be switching to a mf 3.

13.) 30 Mar 2018 18:44:50
Good player, nice lad, silly dancer.



17 Feb 2018 08:31:11
Interesting rumour this morning, Real ready to move for Pogba. Could be paper trash talk of course but if they did and the money was big, would you sell? Clearly the boy has talent but he has yet to dominate a game or deliver on his potential. Is that down to him, the Manager, or a combination of both.

If the money was silly should we cash in? The problem with that is that he may go on and become the dominating player we believe is in there somewhere, and replacing him will cost a fortune too. For me, I’d seriously consider it though.


{Ed002's Note - There is zero interest in Paul Pogba from Real Madrid. They have very, very different ideas who they want.}

1.) 17 Feb 2018 11:41:22
There is no way we should be selling Pogba it would be crazy to do so.

Its likr selling the next messi and then trying to go buy a next ronaldo because we are noy patient enough.

2.) 17 Feb 2018 11:59:12
"Cash in" wtf? So some now want to sell Pogba when we have few midfielders for a pretty poor return? You bored with FIFA?

3.) 17 Feb 2018 11:20:17
Yay. Thanks ed for that.



12 Jan 2018 21:19:21
All this talk of Sanchez has masked the rumour that Vardy is also being considered. Not sure if they would sell or at what price but I think he would slot in much easier, albeit he is a like for like with Lukaku. Sanchez’s attitude worries me, the stories from Arsenal about his isolationist approach do not bode well for team spirit. Hey ho, what do I know?


1.) 12 Jan 2018 21:28:45
I hope not. Hateful diving git, Gerrard, suarez, terry, barton, keown, cattermole, Vardy. all the same to me would of hated to see any of them in a red shirt.

2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:05:33
That's one heck of a team those lot would make. Lacks some wide players tho.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 08:10:14
AJH Vardy is a player Maze likes and admired over the years for his tenacity as well as his rags to riches story but to say he is a better option than Sanchez is silly, very silly.

Wake up AJH you are dreaming of poorly fabricated scenarios.



08 Dec 2017 20:28:41
So, first of all, I share my birthday with Jonny Evans so put that your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, I may have had a little wine tonight so forgive me if I am less coherent than Ronnie during a transfer window.

Sunday is a big game and I hope that Jose wakes up and has an epiphany but I fear it will not happen. I believe it is better to die fighting than running away and in football that is also true. Inspire the troops, give them hope and belief, rouse their spirits, fill their hearts with pride and desire. Let’s not turn up to stifle and try and nick a goal on the break. I don’t care if they are the best team, like Pierre the famous French fighter pilot, let’s go down in flames (google it) .

We are United, a team steeped in history and tradition, we live or die by our standard, there are times to stand up and be counted, Sunday is one of those times. We win, or we lose in a blaze of glory, to be a United fan there are no in betweens.

Time for more wine.


1.) 09 Dec 2017 01:43:34
Jesse's performance at Arsenal will have given him food for thought. Maybe we can press high with a few players and cause some chaos amongst their back line. Worry is that Matic and Ander would have to play out of their skins.

The motivational piece is way more important than formation. Win your battles all over the pitch and you'll get a win.

2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:50:17
We’ll park the bus and try to catch them on the counter and via set pieces.



27 Aug 2017 19:14:26
Just caught up with MOTD, I thought all our players played well. Amongst other things that stood out though:

1. Joe Hart, wow, surely he isn't England's goalie any more
2. Anyone else warming to Rafa? No? Just me?
3. City, still not convincing and I think strong teams will bully them.
4. Shearer has become a half cent pundit since he stopped sitting on the fence.
5. Phil Neville, got to love him, is he the most positive person in the world ever?
6. Swansea possibly not as bad as we have thought.
7. Bilic and De Boer have to be worried although after today's debacle, perhaps Wenger will be first to go.


1.) 27 Aug 2017 20:35:38
Pretty much agree with everything there mate.
I was saying to my lad yesterday that if this palace squad go down it's the best squad ever to be relegated.

2.) 27 Aug 2017 00:43:07
Phil Neville really annoys me. He's so biased it's unbelievable. Agree with the rest. De Boer is no surprise, he was abysmal at inter. Played some disgraceful football there.




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18 May 2019 09:15:18
I may be in the minority but I hope City win today. Nobody has won the domestic treble, we came closest in ‘94, we did the double but lost to Villa in the final of the League Cup, a pretty dreadful game. Records are there to be broken and this season has been phenomenal for a host of reasons. It would be an incredible achievement to clean sweep the domestic trophies and they have to be favourites.

On a separate subject, have people been watching the play offs? Incredible games but my God, how much diving and feigning injury has there been? It was embarrassing and seemed to be pretty much every team. I know it goes on but it was beyond pathetic. The incredible games though, Villa West Brom, Leeds Derby in particular were fantastic spectacles.


1.) 18 May 2019 09:29:53
Watching the lower leagues almost reminds me of top flight football from 15- 20 years ago. There seems to be more of a freedom to the way they play and certainly less coaching. Don’t get me wrong watching City is great at times but for much of it I’m bored. This may be an argument for another day but I feel the real entertainment in footballs top divisions is ebbing away with players being overcoached. That’s why I’m enjoying the play offs so much.

2.) 18 May 2019 09:45:22
Completely agree Hopper, the money in the EPL means it’s all about the top 4 for some, survival for others. I was struck by how much every team was trying to play football in the play offs across all divisions. GKs all looking to pay it short and not simply boot it up the field, Much more technically savvy than it used to be. Really looking forward to the finals.

3.) 18 May 2019 09:19:23
I hope they lose and Watford win.

4.) 18 May 2019 10:58:50
How could any true red want city to win. Who cares if the players have to come in early for pre season, it’s the least they deserve for their pathetic abject performances, pity you can’t sack em. Any normal job if you performed like that on a weekly basis you’d be down the road sharpish. Their heads are so far up their own backsides. They probably think they deserve a payrise.

5.) 18 May 2019 11:39:33
No I can’t hope City win, tbh coming back early might help us out fitness wise. Btw, I’ve never known a cup final day with so little mention of it all across the media, didn’t even remember it was on.

6.) 18 May 2019 13:21:05
So true Welsh - I actually thought it was tomorrow.

7.) 18 May 2019 14:20:03
I didn't know it was on either, go on Watford.

8.) 18 May 2019 14:37:17
I think you're in the minority, Tony 😁.

9.) 18 May 2019 15:01:54
I don't want City to win, but due to the circumstances I won't be upset if they do.

Because we finished 6th if Watford win the FA cup they go into the Europa League at the group stages and we get pushed back to the second qualifying round which starts in mid July, rather than starting our Europa League campaign in mid September.

Watford winning the FA cup will ruin our pre-season plans. We will either have to fly back from Shanghai to Europe to play the qualifier then fly back out to China to complete our pre-season commitments a couple of days later to then fly back to Europe again after that. Meaning two extra 10+ hour flights in one week. Or we will have to split the squad leaving half back in Europe to play the qualifier and the other half go on the pre-season tour.

Neither are good preparation for what is going to be a tough season next year.

So if City win, they they do us a massive favour. So I won't be gutted if they do.

10.) 18 May 2019 16:01:48
We shouldn't need favours from another team and should accept whatever fate gives us.

11.) 18 May 2019 21:06:09
No surprise there Stevie, I just don’t have the animosity for a city that I do for Liverpool, Leeds, or Chelsea. Must be my age.

12.) 18 May 2019 21:24:32
I'm the same, mate.



Are Manchester United Fans' Emotions Clouding Their Views?

13 May 2019 22:23:30
{Ed's Note - AJH has posted a new article entitled, Are Manchester United Fans' Emotions Clouding Their Views?


1.) 13 May 2019 23:11:01
AJH - A lot will depend on recruitment pal. In my opinion 3-4 good players in the right areas might just buy Ole some time to try and stabilise and then re-build. If we're going for raw, inexperienced, youngsters it will be worse than 6th and crisis by Christmas. I have no problem in that approach but you need to build from a position of strength and throwing youngsters into the breach and expecting them to rescue us from this malaise under intense pressure and media scrutiny is a recipe for disaster in my opinion. It might be what we need for the future but if they don't get results they won't get the time to develop and mature. It could spiral into a almighty mess.

I genuinely believe this could be the beginning of the end for the Glazers this summer will prove crucial.

2.) 13 May 2019 23:25:41
Good post Tony.
I understand your still banging the blame jose drum for a lot but as you say their are more layers of problems than a Spanish onion.
Chelsea and madrid both won the league or cl after jose left they were good sides that he fell out of love with and lost control. Just like he did with united. But our players many of them now have been below average finishing 6th 3 times in 6 years under 4 managers. They are simply below the standard required to compete at the top level.
We do have some good individuals but as a collective they are a toxic bunch. There are a few that are just useless too. Rojo jones valencia young are a hinderance to any squad for one reason or another.



25 Apr 2019 21:42:47
I’ve been a little quiet as I’m struggling with the extreme reactions to our current malaise. Things are clearly not good but the comments on here are bordering on tragic. Ole’s first 11 games saw us securing title winning points, the latest run would put us in the relegation zone. There was a demand to have him appointed but now there is a loud wave of opinion saying he was the wrong appointment. Talk about flip flopping.

Ole wants to play on the front foot, working harder than our opponents. We tried that with huge success before injuries set in and right now we are again being out run by our opponents. We had (apparently) one of the best Managers in the world for the last 2 and a half years yet our players are not as fit as any other team, well I never.

Pogba looked a world beater for 10 games but now looks like a pub player. DDG who has been the best GK in the world for many years is now making a lot of mistakes. And they are not alone. I still don’t accept that our players are crap and that we need to ship all but 5 of them out. What we are lacking right now is leadership at every level, leadership on the pitch, leadership in the boardroom.

Allowing SAF and Gill to leave at the same time was a mistake, appointing Moyes was a mistake, chasing big name signings was a mistake, allowing Woody to look after football matters / transfers was a mistake, signing Sanchez was a horrendous mistake. All these things have compounded our situation, a situation that was initiated by SAFs constant refrain that ‘there was no value in the market’ whilst Chelsea and a City were hoovering up talent.

What we need is for the club to back the Manager and sign players who can play to the required style, high intensity, hard work, play on the front foot, and proud to play for our club. We also need to quickly ship out those who do not want to be here, relegate those who are not quite good enough to squad players, and promote the most promising youth players. Anyone who is less than 100% committed needs to be shown the door, whatever the cost. Right now, attitude is everything.

City and Liverpool have raised the bar to a new level, their football is a joy to watch and whoever wins the title will be worthy winners. Bear in mind we spoke to both Pep and Klopp and they left scratching their heads about what we wanted, another example of poor leadership from our club. It is not just on the pitch they are leading the way but also off the pitch: their structure and approach leaves us a long way behind. We are the richest brand in world football but we are being run by rank amateurs.

Still, all is not lost. We do have some very talented players but right now they are surrounded by leeches, fakes, and charlatans. A ruthless approach is needed, an inspirational leader is needed (which may or may not be Ole), and a shed load of cash is needed.

Keep the faith.


1.) 25 Apr 2019 22:09:18
Smashing post mate. I agree with everything, ole may or may not be the right man. That will be found out in time, but we can’t make that assumption until he gets to build his own team and play his way.


2.) 25 Apr 2019 22:32:58
Top post Tony.

3.) 25 Apr 2019 22:38:41
Hi Ajh, initiated by SAF?

4.) 25 Apr 2019 23:04:20
Good post AJH.

5.) 25 Apr 2019 22:57:14
Good post that R3dman but we really don't know of Ole is right man or not and we will only find that out after if he is backed in th3 transfer window and that is the big window.

Our main issues are the players qe have are not good enough, bad attitude, lack of talent and clearly some of them don't want to be here.

Look at City they stepped away from Fred, Sanchez and Jorginho as soon as they found out that thwy eanted to come over here for the money.

That is how you run recruitment. We panicked when city got Guradiola and we decided to bring in Mourinho but he wasnt backed fully wher3 as Guardiola was.

City had a red carpet for Guardiola to do what he wants where as we didn't beleive in Mourinho's plan which was insane. Why would you bring in a manager if you are not going to back them.

I can only see one reason in that and that is to keep the man utd brand going and fool the fans into the stadium to make more money.

United whether you like it or not is a money making machine and until we get th3 structure sorted in terms of recruitment, right football decisions and a clear way of playing/ style then we might get somewhere with the club.

My 2 cents on this that as soon as we start losing games next seqson and if Ole doesn't perform he will b3 sacked in 12 months and then we will start all over again.

Th3 fans have no patience and they want success over night but that is not going to happen, we are not going to win any premier league title for the next 2 to 3 years what we do need to do is keep th3 faith with Ole even if he doesn't perform and buy the right players in and get rid of the players that lack talent or players that don't want to play.

To be honest I don't thnk what i mentioned is going to happen based on the past experiences with previous manager but i hope I am wrong and Ole is backed to make this team United again.

6.) 25 Apr 2019 23:17:54
Singh keep up, that's ajh.

7.) 25 Apr 2019 23:09:59
Ajh I agree with most of what you say but answer me this how many world class players are in our team?

How many of our players would get into city or liverpool's team or even spurs.

We have a bang average team with bang average players only interested in 1 thing. We need more than 5 players gone but that's not going to happen we are full of crap players who don't care

I don't get the whole the players ain't fit enough bs they train enough to be able to run for 90 minutes.

I play sundays for 90 minutes and run my arse off I might get tired but not once will I stop running.

The players are lazy and they have no pride I'm sick of hearing them say what's needed yet none of them are grabbing deep looking for a pair of balls and doing on the pitch

What I wpuod give to be able to play my the team I love.

Ole is not the issue. Injuries are not the issue the owners are not the issue. The players are and I agree get rid of those not wanting to be here

But we have set ourselves up to fail by giving the likes of smalling and Jones and young new deals

You would think Jones and smalling would have learnt the basics on how to defend when Rio and Vidic were here. and to think they will be getting testimonials soon

This is going to take more than just money to throw at it. But I do agree with keep the faith. in ole but he can only succeed if Woodward the clown backs what he wants.

8.) 25 Apr 2019 23:28:46
The ironic thing though AJH is that some of the most talented ones are the same ones that need shipping out. DDG I would like to keep, but we get this circus every year. He needs to go and for us to move on. What isn't he point of us blocking the move as Ed has suggested we could do? If he wants to go, then go.

Pogba I would carry tongue nearest airport myself. Martial I thought would go on to be a huge talent for us, but I've seen more effort in a dead sloth - get rid. Sanchez has been a disaster both in terms of performances and the effect I suspect it has had on the dressing room and morale.

Lukaku is a conundrum - he is a decent striker if played in the right way, but we don't seem to want to play that way. Rashford needs to get his head down and stop believing this own hype and prove he can be the player we all hope. Mata is a top bloke and professional, but he has little or no impact these days, just too slow for the EPL but one of the few who can hold his head night knowing that he has given his best - but time to move on.

Herrera is a decent enough player who I hope stays, but that is no certainty. The rest, well I just look around an don't see a whole lot of talent - at least not enough to get us to where we need to be.

Dalot has potential and has a future here, as does Lindeloff and Shaw. As for the rest, well I struggle to find any other defenders to keep. Bailly, Jones, Shaw etc all about as reliable as fishnet condoms.

It really is that time for a proper clear out and major recruitment. Of course we can ship out 10 or 12 in one window, so it will be a big headache in deciding who stays and who goes, but one thing I do think is important is that we make a point of recruiting at least some new players from the EPL.

All signings are a gamble to some extent, but at least players from the same league know what it's all about.
Very interesting and important summer coming up.

9.) 26 Apr 2019 05:54:55
Great posts AJH and Betty.
I said before just let Ole do his job till end of season before deciding but we went ahead. So that’s done for good or bad reason so be it. We back and support him hereon like it or not.
I agree with you both on clearing out. I’d rather see us taking chance on a younger team and go challenge the title in a year or two. If lucky we may even do better than Ajax! .
Through all these, I feel it is imperative that we have a final team plan which we want to achieve over that 2 yrs. May start with a minx of a few seniors since we can’t go out to buy 10 players right away. I guess the word is evolution so that we phase the senior out by that time. So pple like Young and Shaw can be squad players but we hone the younger team’s skills and development. Give the youngster more game time and exposure.
Key criteria is they must want to play for the club. Monetary rewards comes when they have achieved targets. I know it may be difficult to look for such players but I’m sure there are. I still believe SAF’s “no value out there” statement. Hasn’t Pep and Klopp adopted that even though their clubs might have paid highly for a few (but key players)? Obviously managers sometimes make mistakes but importantly it should be more success than the mistakes.
I’m disappointed with our current state with the highly paid players being side tracked and some who start to think they are the CR7 or Messi. Of course they have potential but that should come with hard work. However I feel a good house will last a long time with proper foundation. I just hope the club take this opportunity to reflect the tradition of the club and do the right thing. Else sooner or later it will be hit financially if supporters and sponsors start staying away.

10.) 26 Apr 2019 06:25:05
It was SAF who allowed the squad to deteriorate and for whatever reason stopped major investment (other than RVP) in his final years. He squeezed every last drop out of what he had but the squad he handed over needed rebuilding. Unfortunately that rebuilding has been at best poor. Look at the players we have bought in the last 6 years and look at the players who have moved to other clubs and you will see that we have been all over the place, and that is down to our structure, which is down to Woody or the owners. The big worry right now is we need major investment but don’t have structure to support sensible decision making.

We have the biggest wage bill in the Premier League. Think on that for a minute, we are miles behind City and Liverpool, behind Spurs, yet we pay our players more. I suspect there is more than 1 reason that has led to this but it needs to change.

As for the players, there is something not right in the dressing room, the lack of effort by some in unacceptable as is the form of others. People want to ship DDG out after a few mistakes, this is the player who was our player of the year for I think four years running but people now want him gone. Rashford was the next big thing, then overrated, then the future, then overrated. Pogba has been average since he arrived but awoke from his slumber when Ole arrived before nodding off again. Sometimes it can be one or two players who can impact the rest, both positively and negatively and if that is the case then they need to be the first to go.

We are caught in a loop and simply selling and buying players is unlikely to fix it by itself. The rumours of appointing Phelan as DOF or Technical Director reinforce the feeling that the lunatics are running the asylum. Giving Jose a new contract and then having to pay him off was ludicrous, the Sanchez deal was unbelievable, the wast of money in buying players we then quickly sold was amateurish. In any other business, the man in charge would have been sacked by now yet Woodward seems immune to criticism or censure.

We shall see, I still maintain we have some good players but for whatever reason the current culture is having a massive impact on performances on the pitch.

11.) 26 Apr 2019 07:10:41
Just reread my last post, I wasn’t suggesting that DDG, Rash, and Pogba are the ones who need to go, I was making a wider point.

12.) 26 Apr 2019 08:20:06
Top post AJH.

13.) 26 Apr 2019 09:08:06
Great posts AJH mate.

14.) 26 Apr 2019 09:20:16
"Just reread my last post, I wasn’t suggesting that DDG, Rash, and Pogba are the ones who need to go, I was making a wider point. "

good points tony but in the words of meatloaf, "2 outta 3 ain't bad"
DDG is the tiresome annual soap opera and pogba simply doesn't justify being first name on the sheet or having a team built round him as is often suggested.
Earlier post stated the huge wage bill at utd for a team only occupying 6th tbh not challenging on any significant level and the answer is obvious: we have attracted mercenary agents who arrange the overpriced sale of players to a club negotiating with a despot with no idea of football.
We will never get the perfect scenario of domination that we would love as fans but as Keane stated among others: youve got to get the foundations right. He was indicating start at the back then move on, but as a club we have to start further back with the hierachy and infastructure.
On a more positive note, we have a big game sunday, a massive window and fingers crossed, soon a DoF.

15.) 26 Apr 2019 09:25:10
AJH I’m sure we all have different views. I’m also sure that the players have exhibited their passion and intentions from the way they play on the pitch.
For me, we have just appointed a new manager. Good, bad, right or wrong one hopefully the board backs and support him through. The board went with Ole at the expense of Jose so they must have learnt from our current situation. I only support the manager whoever he or in future she is 😉🤣. That’s my support for the club.
Hopefully we do not deteriorate until we are bottom half of table. I’m disappointed of course but hopefully we can only get better if the management wakes up and support the project. May be 2 maybe 3 or 4 years but damn they better have a bloody good plan. I might die of high blood pressure explosion if they continue this way 🤦‍♂️🙄.

16.) 26 Apr 2019 13:17:08
Excellent posts AJH. Totally agree with your analysis. In any other business Woodward would have been sacked several times before now. I'm beginning to feel that it hardly matters which manager or players we have - no-one will be sufficiently backed by the board and the wonderful football mind of Woodward will have the final say. Abu Dhabi City have invested hundreds of millions whilst our owners only seem to be interested in how much money they can take out.



18 Apr 2019 06:27:55
Thanks for the Replies to my post re the knee jerk of appointing Ole, but I think some have missed my main point. It wasn’t to suggest Ole won’t be successful, or to suggest that Allegri, or Poch, or anyone else would have been.

The issue is the complete lack of the thorough process that was promised. “A caretaker manager will be appointed until the end of the season while the club conducts a thorough recruitment process for a new, full-time manager.

It doesn’t seem that happened and it’s stunning that Woody can make that statement and then rip it up after a good run. It may have been Ole, it may have been someone else but a thorough process was promised and that didn’t happen.

I fully expect Garth Bale to arrive or some other big name as that feels like something Woody would jump at. Let’s remember he made a pitch to Klopp describing United as an adult version of Disneyland. There are a lot of things need fixing at our club but Woody making footballer is by far the biggest for me.


1.) 18 Apr 2019 06:54:28
*football decisions*.

{Ed001's Note - he would probably make a better footballer.....}

2.) 18 Apr 2019 07:10:38
Im always sceltical how many decisions woody actually makes, there people like richard arnold, matt judge who also have key parts to play.

Most likely collective incompetence as opposed to woody just messing everything up.

3.) 18 Apr 2019 07:40:09
I can't help thinking we have missed out on poch, gets a bit of stick on here but I see him as the next top manager .
Brave decision in a lot of ways to go with ole, he made a very good claim for the job but it was the timing that I found strange .

But ole has picked up 38 points from 16 league games compared to 26 from our previous 17 he does maybe deserve his chance.

4.) 18 Apr 2019 07:49:45
Absolutely agree with you AJH, Ole might be a success in future but to appoint someone manager because they beat a bunch of relegation candidates and lucked out against PSG is just plain stupid, but then again the guy who made this decision was Ed Woodward so stupid is par for the course.

I doubt it DSG, I wanted mourinho sacked after the sevilla game and did not agree with many of his decisions but a corporate hack who has never kicked a ball or has had anything to do with football most of his life telling a manager who has won everything there is to win who to sell and who to buy is the height of ego and incompetence and none of those people you mentioned did it, those were woodward's decisions.

5.) 18 Apr 2019 08:30:37
Give ole a pre season and give him the players he wants that fit the way he wants to play.

We have seen it a few times how he wants a high quick press.

But the players we have don't fit that style it's going to take at least 2 seasons of getting the right players in.

If we are all complaining about a plan and that we don't have any sense of direction we can't moan and demand a new manager when it gets tough.

3 other managers couldn't get these players to perform consistently we have to give ole and the staff time

As much as it hurts to see city and liverpool doing what they are doing they didn't do it in 1 season

Its practically took city 10 years go get here. Liverpool 3 years ago were poor.

Now is the time for patience. you never know the players we hopefully sign in the summer could take us where we want.

6.) 18 Apr 2019 09:40:07
The manager picks the team deals with all sorts of periphery but ultimatly its the players who do or do not perform. Would spurs have won last nite if OGS was manager or would we have beaten Barce with poch in charge is unknown and vastly irrelevant when talking about the success of a club or analysing a season. We have a manager for the next 3 year, a massive first window and a close season to work harder. We'll then see if the squad an compete next season.

7.) 18 Apr 2019 09:45:39
Problem is all Ole talks about is life under the Fergie days. Utd won't move on until that chapter is laid to rest and a new chapter is started. Ole won't see out his 3 years as he keeps harking on about the past.

8.) 18 Apr 2019 10:12:52
sukhyria i think he's just trying to go back to traditions

you can have a club ran the same way for 26 plus years and then it all go to pot.

hes trying to go back to what worked.

this all started as soon as moyes got rid of all the backroom staff.

9.) 18 Apr 2019 11:14:48
Good post Tony. I’ve always been firmly in the Poch camp. Even when he went through a poor spell I still wanted him. However, ole did do fantastically well. The wheels have fallen off a bit but it’s very clear this squad needs investment. He deserves the chance to try and get us to where we need to be. If, as ed said, we do bring in 5 players, then ole will have no excuses. If we can bring in some shrewd signings and play the sort of football we were playing earlier, I think there is cause for optimism. This is not a quick fix. And there are some fans who have absolutely zero patience. We are very far off and it won’t be fixed over night. Let’s get behind the team and see where we end up.

10.) 18 Apr 2019 11:20:59
and i hope we don't go for bale.

we have enough sick notes earning over the odds.

11.) 19 Apr 2019 12:40:48
I find it funny that people say a process was not followed. You or I have no idea how much analysis went into how ever many prospective candidates there were. Just because it might not have been made public doesn’t mean that it did not happen.



17 Apr 2019 22:07:21
You do have to wonder about Woody. ‘A thorough process’ we were told, a good run and suddenly Ole is appointed. Since then it has looked less than rosy and yes, I know we have a lot of player business to do both in and out.

Yet look at Spurs tonight, Poch may never have won a trophy but he continues to impress. Was he considered? Was anyone considered? What thorough process was undertaken? I love Ole and I was caught up in the rush to appoint him but actually cool heads were needed and we didn’t get that, we got the easy decision, one of our own, who made an immediate impression, what could possibly go wrong?

I hope Ole can rise to the challenge, right place and right time and so on but there was no thorough process. The biggest club in the world did not undertake any sort of process, amazing that we continue to knee jerk from Manager to Manager. No other business would accept a CEO making it up as he goes along. Stunning.


{Ed0333's Note - why you gave an interim manager the job before his contract was up I will never know? Oh I knew why because all his ex United playmates in the media clamored for him to get the job so they could waltz round Old Trafford once more like they owned the place. It’s crazy how a club of you’re stature made this appointment. You missed out on Allegri because of dissenting voices and for sure missed out on Poch if he was ever viable. Point is OGS is not the answer and you’ll be looking for a new savior soon.

1.) 17 Apr 2019 22:22:07
At the time it seemed like the right thing to do, to kinda put to bed all the uncertainty and start adequately planning for the next season. But now it kinda seems foolhardy and near-sighted. Its a fickle business, football.

2.) 17 Apr 2019 22:23:10
There were lots on here who didn't want poch when spurs had a tough time. Personally I feel we've made a big mistake in not trying to get him.

3.) 17 Apr 2019 22:26:01
How do you know allergi would have been a hit?

Ole deserved the job it's the his fault the players are rubbish and can't last a full 90 minutes of working hard and playing for the shirt.

Fergie would struggle to get these lot winning we have average players why people think any different amazes me.

4.) 17 Apr 2019 22:29:53
Im sure poch was considered but the board probably thought the fans would be up in arms if ole didn't get the job after psg especially.

Most people on here derided pochs lack of silverware, it would be very ironic if he then went on to win the champions league.

{Ed0333's Note - and how many titles has Ole and his bus won?

5.) 17 Apr 2019 22:34:21
deserved the job on that basis so did moyes then. he will be back in molde end of next season whilst we look for another manger.

{Ed0333's Note - how can he deserve the Job a few months into an interim contract? Surely the decision should have been made at the end of the season?

6.) 17 Apr 2019 22:35:16
Ed, i think you mistook my point as some sort of slight against poch and his lack of achievements, was actually trying to make the opposite point.

{Ed0333's Note - No mate I was actually trying to endorse you’re point but I’ve been laughing so hard since City lost tonite I can’t edit and articulate to my usual high standards lol. I echo you’re point about people damning Poch about being trophyless yet you appoint a player whose in exactly the same boat with even less experience. This is Man United we’re talking about. I really can’t believe Fergie let this happen.

7.) 17 Apr 2019 22:39:10
There is no doubt ole is high risk considering his experience if somehow we can scrape into the top 4 i think he stands a good chance if he is allowed to dismantle the squad and get his new ones in early to allow for a good pre season.
If we can do as ed002 has set out on the rumour page then he can start to build a proper team and drag us back from the depths of mediocrity.
If he can work some magic or find a way to get top 4 coupled with a clearout the future looks a lot brighter imo.
If we miss out on top 4 i effect pogba and ddg to push for moves which might mean a completely different approach to the summer window.
Im backing sanchez to come good in the next 5 games. It might earn him a move away😂.

{Ed0333's Note - I’F my wife was more understanding and reasonable towards the amount of football and American wrestling I watch I’d buy her a diamond necklace.

8.) 17 Apr 2019 22:47:24
Regardless what any of us think ole is the manager and he deserves the summer to work with the players and to change the team to his way then he can be judged.

We will end up 6th come the end of the season and back to Thursdays and sundays.

9.) 17 Apr 2019 22:51:46
said the same ed should have wated till summer to see were we wear at this rate woody will be spending more on managers than players.

{Ed0333's Note - that’s quite funny mate. Not beyond the realms of possibility tho.

10.) 17 Apr 2019 22:56:41
Hi ed0333 well done to your boys tonight and to poch and spurs.
Ed from the outset i said if we won a cup or got top 4 regardless of anything else ole would have earned the job.
He was appointed too early and the players slipped back into the comfort zone.
I think its a very high risk appointment we can only hope that he can learn quickly and starry the season well next season.

{Ed0333's Note - thanks for the congrats Ken much appreciated. I think Ole and his coach is as high risk as you can get and if I’m being honest I don’t see it being successful. He needs a stellar No 2 because I think Ole’s tactics are not gonna win you silverware regardless of how many superstars you sign. Saying that hope you get that Portuguese fella Fernandes really wanna see him in the Premiership.

11.) 17 Apr 2019 23:14:53
What a game it was today. I am rooting for tottenham vs liverpool final but i reckon Messi might be a bit too much but i really hope its an Liverpool vs Tottenham final.

I like both the teams managers and can't stand City or Barcelona winning it.

12.) 17 Apr 2019 23:08:54
Agree with you ed.

{Ed0333's Note - why Thankyou kind Sir or Madam.

13.) 17 Apr 2019 23:55:32

That looks like one of my posts

Sentimentality and that will also cause real heartache should Ole have to be dismissed. A poor start next season and he could well be under pressure by Christmas.

14.) 17 Apr 2019 23:35:33
Ed to be honest i'm not looking to sign superstars at all mate.
I would like to see one or 2 experienced top players for sure but also young talented hungry players with a desire to succeed and improve.
The squad attitude and application is rotten to the core out needs ripping apart.
Totally agree with you I surrounding himself with the right staff. i'd put a fitness coach and technical coach just as high on the list.

{Ed0333's Note - and a Style coach because he’s no pep is he that Ole! You will sign some expensive players mate no doubt.




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Thanks GDS, I was reaching for the razor blades. People need to get a grip.




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24 Feb 2019 17:51:05
This is where Woody needs to be held accountable. He extended Jose’s contract and then had to pay it up when he sacked him, and we e given Sanchez an abhorrent amount of money which would easily unsettle other players, particularly as he continues his headless chicken routine. I swear he passes to opposition players more than his own teammates.




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No surprise there Stevie, I just don’t have the animosity for a city that I do for Liverpool, Leeds, or Chelsea. Must be my age.




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18 May 2019 09:45:22
Completely agree Hopper, the money in the EPL means it’s all about the top 4 for some, survival for others. I was struck by how much every team was trying to play football in the play offs across all divisions. GKs all looking to pay it short and not simply boot it up the field, Much more technically savvy than it used to be. Really looking forward to the finals.




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16 May 2019 20:51:02
It’s posts like this that make me want to give up. We had a crap season so now it’s slag the players time. Many many teams had better defensive records than us last year, that must mean all their goalies are better than DDG. Some people have too much time on their hands.