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Manchester United v Chelsea Review

13 Aug 2019 12:59:03
{Ed's Note - DLIB has posted a new article entitled, Manchester United v Chelsea Review

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1.) 13 Aug 2019 13:17:33
Good post DLIB.

A solid foundation for Ole to build on. I think Wolves will give us a good game. We certainly need to start the game if better than we did against Chelsea.

Shaw will be targeted as our weak link in defence, due to his poor positional awareness. This may well be his make or break season at Utd.


2.) 13 Aug 2019 21:26:12
Wolves will do what we did to chelsea. Sit back and counter attack. This next game is a different kettle of fish and a tough one at that.


 

 

06 Aug 2019 15:11:36
As we enter the final two days of the transfer window I think we're about to discover the real ambition and competence of our intrepid owners.

Our team finished outside the top 4 and was in need of significant surgery and investment despite views on the credentials or suitability of our current manager.

Up to this point I think the window can be considered a success. We've witnessed a encouraging pre-season where several promising youngsters have been integrated into the squad and the team have played a more aggressive style of football, pressing enthusiastically from the front, working harder and playing on the front foot. The defence has been significantly strengthened with two very solid additions and at this point I think the Club should be applauded for getting those deals over the line. Both were very expensive additions but in my opinion the right ones and seemingly the managers first choice.

Daniel James will inject some pace up front and I've been very impressed with his work rate and commitment to press the opposition and work hard. Whilst he remains raw and I have concerns about his quality in the final third his pace will always make him a threat and his work rate and his willingness to close the opposition down and put them under pressure will make him a useful member of the squad. He's by no means the finished article but he has the potential to be something special if he continues to improve and work on his game.

Whilst a CM and RW would have been ideal that surely would have pushed our spending north of £250m and I'm not sure that was ever likely in this window. I was never convinced we'd seen the churn of players we've witnessed in previous windows and I think this was always going to be more of a methodical and measured building process rather than a complete transformation.

Despite my optimism for the forthcoming season I remain deeply suspicious and cynical of our board. With only two days of the window remaining the Lukaku and Pogba situations have not been addressed and left to fester. I feel we could just about get away with letting Lukaku leave without replacing him but it's a risk and doesn't represent good planning. I believe Rashford and Martial deserve their chance at star billing, Sanchez can play CF if needed and the emergence of Greenwood means we still have decent options up front.

Pogba however is a completely different kettle of fish. We are already dangerously short of numbers in midfield and despite your views on Pogba we are much better with him in the team. If he is not replaced by Thursday and I'm not sure he can be replaced like for like, we'd probably need a CM and a No10 he must not be sold. The Club have know of his desire to leave for over 12 months and a line in the sand must be drawn. The vultures are circling but the Club must remain resolute and strong. I expect Madrid to push hard after the window closes, they will look to exploit the situation, unsettle the player in the hope of driving the price down. This is a problem entirely of our own making and how we handle it may just define our season.

My fear is the Club will relent Pogba and Lukaku will both be sold after the window closes where they cannot be replaced and the Club will pocket the money and my suspicion is maybe this was the plan all along. Of course there is no real foundation of my paranoia just a deep seated prejudice and mistrust of our ability and perhaps more importantly intent to return us to the top. Of course we still have two days to rectify this. Tick tock, tick tock!

DLIB

1.) 06 Aug 2019 15:40:07
The 'intrepid' owners spent £80m on Ole's favoured central defender. Tight arses.

{Ed047's Note - I thought Koulibaly from Napoli was first choice


2.) 06 Aug 2019 16:06:42
No Ed47, obviously the one we are able to get in is the first choice and the best. Koulibaly, dias are all worse of now.

{Ed047's Note - ah my bad UA 😂


3.) 06 Aug 2019 17:16:59
DLIB, good post. I wonder how are we suppose to play with only one creative player in the pitch. Once he gets injured we look mediocre and struggle to keep hold of the ball or create anything with it.

Rashford works really hard but its not fair to put all the responsibilities on his shoulder, Martial is inconsistent and James will be playing his first season and will take time to settle.

Our board should have been more ambitious and tried to sign at least one creative player upfront to create and score goals alongside Pogba.


4.) 06 Aug 2019 21:52:27
GDS2 - Just a polite reminder that our intrepid owners purchased our beloved Club using a leveraged buy out without investing a dime of their own money. They burdened the Club with crippling debt meaning millions is taken out each year just to service this debt which they used to finance their takeover.

We are one of the richest Clubs in the world; money predominately generated from match going and loyal fans, merchandise, sponsorship and Tv revenue. This is money generated by the Club meaning our owners have no need to invest or risk any of their own money. They pay themselves handsome dividends and take out loans using the Club as surety.

As a season ticket holder of over 25 years, MUTV subscriber and regular purchaser of merchandise including annual kits for my kids amongst other items I expect a large percentage of that revenue to be invested back into the Club.

We are an world famous institution, a Club proudly and lovingly re-built from the ashes of Munich to concur Europe we deserve for our own self generated money to be re-invested back into the squad rather than the line the pockets of rich businessmen that reside thousands of miles away on the other side of the Atlantic. They care little about the history or heritage of our Club and are only interested in making as much money as possible. When the Glazers finally sell up they will have made millions by exploiting our brand and trading on our history and enormous international fan base. Do I expect them to invest money back into our playing squad, absolutely, in fact I demand it as should every fan of our great Club.

If they sell Pogba and Lukaku after our window closes without adequately replacing them, despite knowing of their desire to leave and the need to improve the squad after not adequately backing the manager last summer I will be furious as should we all.


 

 

04 Aug 2019 23:35:55
Evening guys,

So the Dybala deal is seemingly dead, no real surprise it always struck me as more of an opportunist thing than anything else.

There could possibly still be something in the Mandzukic rumour. Maybe he could be included as part of the Lukaku deal bringing the fee down to a more palatable £50m or so? Of course this is pure speculation on my part. From what I've read Mandzukic is keen on the move, his wages are reasonable, he'll bring experience to a relatively young squad, he's an underrated player, strong, physical, good in the air with a decent touch and an eye for a goal. You would imagine that he'd be happy to be part of the squad given his age so would potentially be a good back up option for the likes of Rashford and Martial and would offer us something different and more of a physical presence up front.

Numerous conflicting reports on Fernandes. I'm not convinced he'll sign for us to be honest. Ole appears to have moved to a 4-2-3-1 formation so presumably Fernandes would play at No10. We already have Lingard, Mata, Sanchez even Pogba, Pereria and Gomes can all play there so it's not a pressing issue in my opinion. The interest would make more sense if Ole wanted to play 4-3-3 but he seems to have moved away from this during pre-season. I'm not convinced Fernandes would be that successful operating in a midfield pivot but that's just my opinion and the reasons I'm not convinced this deal will go through.

If the Club can conclude the Lukaku-Mandzukic deal maybe they might use the money to target somebody like David Neres. It would provide us with a short term replacement for Lukaku whilst still allowing Rashford and Martial to develop and possibly give us the funds to sign Neres to fill that problem position on the right.

Anyway pure speculation on my behalf let's see what the coming week brings.

DLIB

1.) 04 Aug 2019 23:55:47
Anytime I've seen Neres play for Ajax it's been off the left wing with Ziyech on the right. We've already more left wingers than the labour party!


2.) 05 Aug 2019 00:44:15
He's definitely a right winger pal, but he can play anywhere across the front three either as a CAM or from the right or left. It's my understanding that his best performances for Ajax have come from the right where he can cut inside on his left foot. I have no idea if Utd hold any real interest I was just speculating to be honest mate.


3.) 05 Aug 2019 01:17:54
so swap a 20 odd year old for a 33 year old. and as for the number 10s we might as well plan for europa next season now. the sguad needs major surgery. not a 33 year old. what happend to the ole we are man utd and should be winning the big trophies. and then a few weeks later it is going to take years to catch up. the same ole half these plyers have played there last game for united who have just been rewarded with new contracts. i am fortunate to see the bad times and the good times but as things stand nothing is going to change ajh give me the cup - rant over.


 

 

What a difference a year makes for Manchester United

04 Aug 2019 14:54:09
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My take on the Paulo Dybala to Manchester United Rumour

31 Jul 2019 16:12:33
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1.) 31 Jul 2019 16:26:25
There where reports in the press and discussions on this page that united had an interest in dybala a few months ago . At the time it was said he would wait and see who the new manager was and if he was part of there plans .
Seems to be playing out .
Would be an interesting signing imo, I'm not sure he suits the epl or would settle in Manchester but he is a very talent lad and if things work out could be a very good player for us and the EPL.


2.) 31 Jul 2019 16:36:16
I think that's a good post dlib and i'd agree with all of it.
I like lukaku. He scores goals and will score goals wherever he is.
Sometimes players just don't suit coaches and vice versa.
Id wish lukaku all the best.
Dybala is talented maybe his face just didn't fit when ronaldo arrived.
He will do at least as well as lukaku has done imo so not much downside really. Pretty low risk really.


3.) 31 Jul 2019 16:37:33
That's awb maguire and dybala we agree on jred.
Im getting worried😂😂.


4.) 31 Jul 2019 17:01:07
Nice article DLIB.


5.) 31 Jul 2019 17:17:36
Very good post DLIB.


6.) 31 Jul 2019 17:31:25
Great article DLIB.


7.) 31 Jul 2019 17:42:51
Spot on as usual dlib, your posts are always very well articulated 👍.


8.) 31 Jul 2019 18:36:01
Good poste DLIB. Agree with all of it and Lukaku shouldn't never have signed for us.


9.) 31 Jul 2019 20:24:13
Agree with that DLIB. Good post. And yeah jred, that's basically Crux if it. Could turn out to be a good signing. If not, move him.


 

 

 

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10 Jun 2019 21:30:24
Why would Palace sell him to Everton or West Ham for half the price? That just doesn't make sense. Palace are under no pressure to sell, he's one of the most promising full backs in the country, the player isn't agitating for a move, he's still under contract so if somebody wants him they'll have to make Palace an offer they can't refuse.

Didn't Everton buy Richarlison from Watford for around £50m after only playing one season in the Premier League?!

It's the same for the likes of Maguire and Maddison. Their values are being pushed through the roof as Clubs are no longer under financial pressure to sell players, they are better equipped than ever before to retain their best players so if players have signed long term contracts getting them from other Club's is difficult and very expensive.

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22 Apr 2019 14:08:41
Good post Mumbles.

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31 Dec 2018 17:32:37
I've not seen much of him but he's very well rated from what I've read.

We definitely need a RW but I'd like to see Chong given a chance. I'm surprised he's not been included since Ole's appointment does anybody know if he's been injured?!

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08 Oct 2018 13:08:24
Yeah your probably right Ed001. Pie in the sky talk really just thinking out loud thanks for your reply!

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{Ed001's Note - it is difficult because you don't want to push out a legend like Fergie, but sometimes you have to.}


 

 

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08 Oct 2018 10:24:18
Ed001 - I think that is superb reply and I totally agree with you about SAF. It is my understanding that as his career progressed he took a step back and became a brilliant delegator. He regularly changed his assistants and coaching staff to freshen things up, implement new ideas and keep the players motivated. He became more of an observer which gave him the advantage of being able to assess exactly what was going on at the football Club.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said any new DOF will become the most important person at the Club most certainly from a footballing perspective anyway. They will drive the footballing strategy and vision.

I was always slightly curious why we couldn't have adopted this approach when SAF retired. I think he could have remained in post for a couple of seasons as a figurehead whilst Moyes took control of the team. He would have been a valuable asset and maybe he could have been more actively involved in player recruitment aiding both Moyes and Woodward through a difficult first window. I'd have liked to have seen a slower more measured transition where Moyes was approached and offered the job as head coach ultimately taking the main role the following season or even the season after. It might just have given the Club time to find its feet and put measures in place to fill the massive void when SAF eventually retired. Of course this is all just pie in the sky reasoning but ultimately the great man was always going to retire and maybe his biggest legacy could have been overseeing the next step and ensuring the Club continued to dominate rather than just leaving a vacuous hole they have been unable to fill. Johan Cruyff left Barcelona with a footballing philosophy which has endured for decades even after his untimely death. He has provided the Club with a blueprint and recipe for continued success. I'd have like to have seen Utd follow suit with SAF engineering and planning his own retirement and legacy rather than just leaving suddenly. Of course this all sounds great in theory but I appreciate in reality it's easier said than done. Maybe he just couldn't commit any more of his time and things happened suddenly which we're out of his control. Its all ancient history now anyway.

DLIB

{Ed001's Note - I think the problem you had was that Fergie was still around and it never works out when the previous, legendary, manager is still around. Busby stepped upstairs and it didn't help at all. Shankly was causing a similar issue at Liverpool after he quit, so he was asked to stay away. Cruyff went off to rebuild Ajax (if I remember correctly) so he was not there overshadowing his successors. Fergie is too strong a character to just put him to one side, unlike Paisley, for example, who acted as advisor when Dalglish was first appointed up until he fully retired in 1989 and then it all fell apart for Liverpool without him. When you have someone as strong as Fergie, it has to be a clean break or his shadow is over everything.

Your biggest problem was that he was in control of pretty much everything at the club. Great while he was there, but the minute he went it left a massive power vacuum that Eddy Woodwouldward could never hope to fill and Moyes had no intention of getting involved to that degree of micro-management. So you were left with a lot of people who no longer knew who to report to.}


 

 

 

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07 Aug 2019 18:43:02
Good post Shappy, can't argue with any of that pal.

I don't expect any more transfers to be honest. Pogba remains an enigma and polarises opinion but love him or loathe him surely we can all agree that Utd are a better side when he plays especially as it looks increasingly unlikely we'll now get a replacement. New season, new start let's hope his football does the talking.

The likes of Gomes, Chong and Greenwood have all impressed during pre-season. Maybe now is their time. Many posters wanted them to be given a chance. The defence has been significantly strengthened to provide them with a platform to shine.

I have concerns about Matic and Mata's suitability to press high and move the ball quickly. I hope Ole is brave and trusts the exuberance of youth over experience. I think both can fulfil a role off the bench and are important members of the squad but I'd like to see Gomes given a chance at No10 or Greenwood play from the right ahead Mata.

We're going to need a lot of players to step up and deliver on their potential. The likes of Martial, Rashford and Lingard must all improve and perform more consistently. Lindelof and Shaw must build on their promising performances from last season and Maguire and AWB will have to hit the ground running. If the young lads can take their chance and make an impact it could be an exciting season.


I'm not really sure where we'll finish. I think we might struggle to score goals so we'll need the defence to significantly improve if we are to have any aspirations of a top 4 finish. I think we'll be in the mix and hopefully we'll see some better football with our promising youngsters given a chance to impress. I'm not sure we expect much more than that I'm afraid but maybe some lessons have been learnt and hopefully we're going in the right direction.

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06 Aug 2019 21:52:27
GDS2 - Just a polite reminder that our intrepid owners purchased our beloved Club using a leveraged buy out without investing a dime of their own money. They burdened the Club with crippling debt meaning millions is taken out each year just to service this debt which they used to finance their takeover.

We are one of the richest Clubs in the world; money predominately generated from match going and loyal fans, merchandise, sponsorship and Tv revenue. This is money generated by the Club meaning our owners have no need to invest or risk any of their own money. They pay themselves handsome dividends and take out loans using the Club as surety.

As a season ticket holder of over 25 years, MUTV subscriber and regular purchaser of merchandise including annual kits for my kids amongst other items I expect a large percentage of that revenue to be invested back into the Club.

We are an world famous institution, a Club proudly and lovingly re-built from the ashes of Munich to concur Europe we deserve for our own self generated money to be re-invested back into the squad rather than the line the pockets of rich businessmen that reside thousands of miles away on the other side of the Atlantic. They care little about the history or heritage of our Club and are only interested in making as much money as possible. When the Glazers finally sell up they will have made millions by exploiting our brand and trading on our history and enormous international fan base. Do I expect them to invest money back into our playing squad, absolutely, in fact I demand it as should every fan of our great Club.

If they sell Pogba and Lukaku after our window closes without adequately replacing them, despite knowing of their desire to leave and the need to improve the squad after not adequately backing the manager last summer I will be furious as should we all.

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05 Aug 2019 18:24:07
Good podcast Ed enjoyed listening.

DLIB

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. I am glad you enjoyed it. I wasn't sure if this idea would work, I half expected to have to make up questions to answer for myself to get it started!}


 

 

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05 Aug 2019 18:18:11
Shappy - Thanks for taking the time to answer can't argue with any of that pal.

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05 Aug 2019 14:19:43
I have no idea why some of you boys are Utd fans you'd think we were a pub team the way you go on. I get by our own very high standards we've been poor recently and many are frustrated with how the Club is run but come on guys we're still Man Utd.

Spurs are Spurs they've not won a trophy for over 10 years and that was the league cup. They not won the Fa Cup since 1991 and the league title since 1961. There last European trophy was the UEFA Cup in 1984!

Since Ericsson signed for Spurs in 2013 (after SAF retired) we've won the league cup, the fa cup (and made another final) and the Europa league.

Spurs have done well recently because they have a great manager. They are still reluctant to spend big in the transfer market or offer high wages to attract the best players. Once Potch leaves I expect them to struggle again. Spurs will not win the league this season in my opinion, in fact we are closer to bridging the gap with them than they are to City or even Liverpool.

Utd are an infinitely bigger Club than Spurs, he'll be get infinitely more exposure playing for Utd, more money obviously and we're rubbish at the moment.

He wants an new challenge, maybe he could be part of a squad that wins our first title since SAF's retirement or maybe he just wants to win a trophy the stat's don't lie he's more likely to win something at Utd than Spurs. (Tongue in cheek perhaps but is it not true? ) .

Things can change very quickly in football it only takes a couple of players to make a big difference. Keep the faith boys!

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