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01 Apr 2019 13:13:09
So duncan castles reporting that herrera is off to psg.

Does anyone agree to the clubs stance not to fold to his wage demands?

Who does that leave as our second best midfielder at the club? Michael carrick?


1.) 01 Apr 2019 13:37:08
I agree with this stance but the club also need to stop giving into demands of someone like Sanchez who's on double what Herrera wants.

2.) 01 Apr 2019 14:11:32
Is that his wages freed up to pay DDG what he wants?

3.) 01 Apr 2019 14:33:48
I agree. We need to commit 30m plus for a squad player approaching 30. Nah. Rock on free up the wages for a better player.

4.) 01 Apr 2019 15:03:43
Ken why let herrera go the likely scenario would be we would have to spend minimum of 50m to replace him with inflated fees. Plus wages on top there's plenty on more than him that should be shown the door before him. can't fathom how jones got a new deal and herrera didnt.

5.) 01 Apr 2019 15:12:01
why are we giving the likes of Jones and young new contracts but herrera letting go.

ddg still has another season but still its a joke. you keep your best players.

other than arsenal who have also a reputation to losing players this doesn't happen anywhere else.

6.) 01 Apr 2019 15:32:14
We aren't 'letting him go', this great player who everyone loves and loves the club is holding us to ransom over his wages, he isn't half as good as he thinks he is and could easily be replaced. Thanks for the good times Ander, but you are never going to be in a premier league winning first team.

7.) 01 Apr 2019 16:07:54
so is DDG holding us to ransom?

8.) 01 Apr 2019 16:10:47
I'm in two minds. Its a lot of money for a 30 year old that could be better spent. But then its another signing we'll need to make to replace him which maybe lessons what we can commit on other signings.

9.) 01 Apr 2019 16:29:40
Reports saying Utd won't offer more than £170k pw. Probably £50k too much being offered already for me.

10.) 01 Apr 2019 16:51:19
I agree with the club on this one. 170k a week sounds more than reasonable. If ander wants more that's his perogative.

11.) 01 Apr 2019 17:56:24

Yes, but he’s our best player and we would struggle to replace him with someone of the same quality so he will probably get what he wants, I don’t think anyone is under any illusion that De Gea hasn’t already tried to leave once, he’s just bloody good so we let him off.

12.) 01 Apr 2019 20:23:13
Why would PSG want him Rabiot cannot make there side he’s about 2 levels above Herrera,

13.) 01 Apr 2019 20:31:26
They maybe see something you don't?

14.) 02 Apr 2019 04:32:02
So just out of curiosity, who would you guys replace Herrera with who is an improvement and who also will cost less than 200k a week in wages?

15.) 02 Apr 2019 05:51:26
Personally I would break the bank for Saul Niguez.
He can take the midfield as well as the whole team to next level.
He can pick intricate forward passes like Pogba. Does excellent work off the ball.
And he is just 24. Well worth the investment.

{Ed001's Note - and he can cover almost every position on the pitch as well. I do not understand why no one has already broken the bank for him. It is not like he has just emerged, I can remember suggesting him as one of the players I would want Liverpool to sign when he was 17. So he has been about and looking top class for a long time.}

16.) 02 Apr 2019 06:36:31
Agree Ed. Not many consistent top quality midfielders around.
There are rumours linking him to City which is a real worry.

17.) 02 Apr 2019 13:34:18
Herrera is one of our better players, and there is no chance we will get a replacement of the same standard on less than 200k wages plus a hefty transfer fee. We can't afford to not give him the contract he wants, as doing so will cost us more than giving it to him.

18.) 02 Apr 2019 13:42:40
There is no point in giving 200k wage for a 29 year old who can pass only side ways. He may not even be a regular in the coming seasons.
And then we have problems with salary cap out.
So overall, it is a huge risk.
If we continue this, Next Smalling will ask for 200k a week contract.

19.) 02 Apr 2019 23:31:43
Who know. people who worry for extra expenses needed to replace him, need to think may be if Rabiot coming our way in free. in our wage budget? None of us know. But if Ole is taking this decision, then he must have calculated this. Now we can expect 2 new CM to come in.

20.) 02 Apr 2019 23:40:58
Completely agreed ed1. The worst decision Ed wayward has made in my view is cancelling the transfer plans in the winter window before LVGs sacking. We were meant to have a meeting with Atleti with regards to Saul. For me Saul is the best all round CM in the world. If not for Kante, Saul would be the best midfielder IMO.



20 Jan 2019 16:47:59
According to report, we have triggered the year option in darmians contract, he will go to juventus on a lon with an option to buy.

I assume that valencia has enough fitness to see this season out then leave on a free in the summer.

Young will probably get an extension leaving dalot shaw young and fosu mensah as our full back options next season unless we bring someone in.


1.) 20 Jan 2019 18:02:33
Tfm will not be in our squad next season as a full back option. If ww don't bring a full back in i expect the 4 would be mitchell shaw young and dalot.
Interesting that he cose to play dalot on the left yesterday when shaw fell ill instead of young.
It shows that both young and shaw can play either side adequately.

2.) 20 Jan 2019 21:59:14
Not good enough options in my opinion. Shaw is playing better, I'm happy with him as my first choice atm, with young and depot as cover. We need a top class rb because we have nothing down the right. I like depot but not sure if he's ready to be first choice just yet. We could do with someone who's about 29-30 in their prime for a couple of years till dalot is ready. That and a top centre back and we'd have a good foundation to build from.

3.) 21 Jan 2019 06:06:29
Shaw and young for LB. Dalot and a top right back at peak for RB.

4.) 21 Jan 2019 06:26:16
Wan Bissaka.

5.) 21 Jan 2019 11:38:07
I would like to see us go for Milenkovic to play at RB with Dalot as cover. He's young but can also play central. I would also love us to see if Mbappe can be prised away from PSG given their financial woes. Imagine a front three of Rashford, Martial and Mbappe!

6.) 21 Jan 2019 12:29:49
I woyld rather we brought in a RB and a LB. Mitchell is not good enough - offer money for Kieran Tierney and that's LB sorted, he has the potential to be the best LB in UK. At RB we need someone who is ready to go, Perreira would be my choice but I am sure there are plenty options.



16 Oct 2018 21:50:00
Reports that shaw could be putting pen to paper on a 5 year deal soon.

Are 8/ 9 games enough to earn that contract?

Or is just to keep his value high. Admittedly i am pleased he has started the season well when at times its looked his career at united could have over but am still not convinced he's the long term answer at the position.


1.) 17 Oct 2018 10:33:42
hes still very young and has been one of the positives this season

i would be happy with him signing a new 5 year deal.

2.) 17 Oct 2018 10:37:46
He's spent a good chunk of his time at the club injured or stuck in the reserves, so I think it's fair to give him a new contract after his recent spell of form. If in 3 years from now there is still no real improvement he will most likely be gone.

3.) 17 Oct 2018 12:10:02
He had a shakey first season when it could be said he was adapting to being at a club our size. He then went away and trained hard over the summer and at the start of his second season he was our best player until he got injured. He then struggled for a couple of years to fully over come the injury and deal with the change in management. He has up until now probably been our best player this season.

So I think it's clear the potential is still there and he can realise that here with us. Why let him leave, especially on the cheap. He is an England international and we need to keep good quality homegrown players especially when they can perform to level where they are regularly our best player.

We'd be stupid not to give him long term contract.

4.) 17 Oct 2018 13:58:59
The issue for me is, why have we let the contracs of so many players run down.

5.) 17 Oct 2018 14:11:52
Going to be a very good player.

6.) 17 Oct 2018 14:50:48
He's one of the ones we should be looking to extend along with Mata, Herrera and de Gea. The rest can go for free or buttons.

7.) 18 Oct 2018 18:35:38
Had a great season so far. He deserves a new contract imo. He has been doing and saying the right things all season. One of the few who is actully full of praise for the manager in fact. There has been a full turn around in his form and his confudence and he looks fit and raring to go. If he keeps his form and fitness it will be a big plus for the team.



11 Aug 2018 12:26:57
Manchester United academy graduates played a total of 253 minutes last night, that’s 200 minutes more than Manchester City graduates played all of last season, but Mourinho doesn’t play youth apparently.


1.) 11 Aug 2018 12:57:55
I hate city as much as any united fan but now it's just getting ridiculous. Pogba, Rashford come under our academy graduates. City has just started developing youth which they think should be capable of playing at the highest level. There are a couple who are very good and even played for them last season and didn't look out of place due to their style of play. They just bought a club in Spain where these players will play against the best and come back to be in the first team. Jose playing these guys yesterday was out of necessity.

2.) 11 Aug 2018 13:14:33
Nothing stopping guardiola signing micah richards and michael johnson back and playing them. I wouldn't have a problem with it lol.

Jose can't win can he, he plays youthful academy players but it not quite the correct variation of mystical magical youth player people want. Then he sticks to type and he's use accused of wanting to fill the team with experienced players over 30 and has no long term vision.

3.) 11 Aug 2018 14:48:04
OK with your powerful reply and the mention of Micah Richards you have managed to change my mind. Now I agree that Jose is a very youth oriented manager. I think we should adopt this style of play throughout our youth system so that there is a more seamless entry for our academy graduates into the first team. Can't wait to see chong playing at left back.

4.) 11 Aug 2018 16:20:25
Anyone really see city playing youth much this season?

5.) 12 Aug 2018 01:35:26
I think Foden might get a few games. I actually hipe he does as he is a special talent.

6.) 12 Aug 2018 05:24:35
Can't see Foden getting games.

7.) 12 Aug 2018 08:28:24
Foden might get a run of FA/ League Cup games. He looks a good player.

8.) 12 Aug 2018 11:05:55
He'll probably be at palace or Newcastle on 18 months.



27 Jun 2018 11:05:14
Looks like fellaini has agreed a new contract with the club until 2020.

I think this will go down well on the site lol.


1.) 27 Jun 2018 11:30:05
Absolutely devastated. Total shambles from the club. He's hawked himself around Europe got no good offers and we're going to get stuck with him. An injury prone squad player on far too much money that's going to affect other signings.

2.) 27 Jun 2018 12:15:28
Here's to another shambolic season. Thought we were moving forward signing Fred and Dalot. Then the news The useless plank Fellani is staying. Joke utter Joke. Well Jose won't have a leg to stand on when he gets sacked and it won't be long before he does . Keeping Fellani.

3.) 27 Jun 2018 13:07:14
Fellaini will not start a lot of games but Jose has shown he is happy to use him when needed. Useful sub.
I think already the signing of Fred will improve the style of play as I think he will fit next to Matic with Pogba further forward.
We have glaring issues at fullback and right wing, if this ensures the money is available to address those positions with top quality I'm in favour.

4.) 27 Jun 2018 13:46:06
Devastated? lol for god sake.

5.) 27 Jun 2018 14:59:13
Yes I've had to watch him shambling around the pitch for 5 years masquerading as a united player and genuinely thought that was over.

6.) 27 Jun 2018 15:24:42
There is no way he is first choice, he is a good option off the bench and has proven that since Jose came into the side.

7.) 27 Jun 2018 16:45:50
One more season of balls. looking for wig in when defence is tight to open. So Jose decided to open them with head ball rather beautiful football.
I'm personally wanted him to leave for good of our football style.

This also ends our need to bring another CM.

8.) 27 Jun 2018 23:29:16
Why does he have to be the option off the bench? Why does plan b have to be launch it?
Ole, teddy, Hernandez and the like were all options from the bench at times and they could all play. Last season Fellaini scored one winner against a very depleted arsenal side. It’s an awful decision to extend or actually worse still offer him a new deal. No one wanted him badly enough in. Free and that should say it all.

Another season of jose’s poor excuse for football coming up. What direction is this club going?




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21 May 2019 19:44:33
Times reporting that ashley young is going to be our next club captain.

I think after our last 30+ ex winger come converted full back was such a resounding success, this is a shrewd move by the club.

Also smalling a contender to be vice captain, refreshing to see ole being so ruthless this summer with our underperforming players.


1.) 21 May 2019 20:20:10
I hope this isn't true. He shouldn't be a starter and it's pretty pointless having a squad player as the captain.

2.) 21 May 2019 21:08:10
Ashley Young has been a glaring weak spot in our squad for 8 years. As a winger he could not reliably beat a man and his crossing is poor. He is not a defender and gets found at at Premiership level often. Jose liked him because he followed instructions and often looks like he is giving "100%" with a lot of huffing and puffing but for me he flatters to deceive.

3.) 21 May 2019 21:45:33
He is a long serving player and whilst not being good enough has never given less than 100% even playing out of position. Unfortunately I’d struggle to name a better option in the squad at this moment.

4.) 21 May 2019 23:06:58
I don't get this whole angle of being played out of position. He's been a full back for half his career at this stage. There's a clip from the last game of the season when we went 2 down. Lindelof is organising the players, trying to pick them up while Young is just standing in the corner doing nothing. Obviously this is only a snapshot but we really should be building something new with someone like Lindelof instead of Young.

5.) 22 May 2019 05:19:46
I'm 100% certain that Young would not be the first choice RB next season.
Even Ed has confirmed that RB is a priority for the club and Wan-Bissaka/ Meneiur are considered as the primary targets.

6.) 22 May 2019 07:00:16
Said this many times on here the Captaincy at football is not as important as cricket but you need a different type of leader on the pitch in football. A club man who is committed is not that manic you want to be successful. I don’t doubt Young’s commitment, just his quality. The players must respect the captains work, aim for his level yet Young can’t cross a ball and gives possession away. As to Pogba, where do we start. It shows the lack of thought in management and above if this is true. The captaincy needs to go to a leader not as a carrot to entice someone to stay or for loyal service. If we aren’t buying someone who could be a leader then we are in even bigger trouble. Desperation takes us in the direction of Young and Pogba.

Personally I would look at who comes in at Centre Back or Centre Midfield as someone who needs to be a leader. Then make Captaincy decisions.

7.) 22 May 2019 07:04:02
I remember when we signed Jones.
‘Future Utd and England captain, ’ they said.



18 May 2019 13:40:48
Rumours that rashford is deliberating over a new contract as he is concerned about the direction of the club.

Good on him i say, judging by the general mood of this forum and the mood of united fans in general, we all seem concerelned about where the club is going.

One of the few players i actually like in this united team, played through an injury against liverpool, played with a strapped shoulder against chelsea and one of the few who has improved year on year.

The club should be doing everything to keep him.


1.) 18 May 2019 13:52:50
Sorry but disagree totally. Think because he is manc born and bred he gets a free pass off many. I think he has gone backwards this season. i'm not going to slate the lad as he’s young and needs to develop but is he another who thinks he’ far better than he actually is. Time will tell but not convinced.

2.) 18 May 2019 13:54:56
But he's home grown, so he must be rubbish.

3.) 18 May 2019 14:02:41
Agree Blackpool Red. I think it's disgusting and as for any of the rest of the team, if they want to leave then don't let the door hit you on the way out. Otherwise, they should shut up and play like their lives depended on it.

4.) 18 May 2019 14:17:18
To be honest I'm sick of hearing this 'he gets a free pass because he's english/ manc/ local/ academy'rubbish. Search his name, or lingard or mctominay on this site. They've taken absolute pelters this season. So hardly getting a free ride.

Going on to these supposed comments. Its in a newspaper known for printing absolute cobblers 90% of the time. To steal a phrase from someone else when these same papers say we're signing so and so do you rush out an buy a shirt with their name on or reach for the salt.

Stop being so gullible for starters.

5.) 18 May 2019 14:17:43
Or Stevie, he must be the second coming because he is home grown.

6.) 18 May 2019 14:19:29
Agree with Blackpool red, if its true, its an example of a player thinking to much of himself. He has the potential to be a top striker, but after a season when he has been outscored by Lukaku and the strikers from most other teams like Mitrovic at lowly Fulham, he needs to improve his own game before worrying about Uniteds direction.

7.) 18 May 2019 14:36:43
UA, it's an English club with a history of bringing local lads through the academy. It's one of the things that sets our club apart from others, in good times or bad.

I wish the club had more players from Northern Ireland playing for it, but I appreciate that as an English club, there should be a core of English players there.

Otherwise, it may as well just be a franchise. Or Arsenal.

8.) 18 May 2019 14:37:38
Towards the end of the season the players played like they didn’t believe in what OGS was asking, Rashford included, it looked like he stopped putting everything in. However, no player should hold the club to ransom over the manager, no matter whether they are right or wrong. An example needs to be set and Rashford needs to be told he is available for transfer unless he accepts the managers decisions and signs a contract. Sell him next week if needed, no player is bigger than the club.

I share his concern, if indeed he has any, over the manager but it is the sort of problem that needs to be dealt with firmly. Pandering to the players saw the last manager leave and whilst I think OGS shouldn’t be there, it should not be seen as the players decision to make or to force the hand of the club.

9.) 18 May 2019 14:37:56
He is yet to outscore Joshua King and wants more money? Kick such players out of the club.

10.) 18 May 2019 14:47:08
All ridiculous posts. Just leave it be and see what OGS can do with this lot under a full ore-season and adding players he wants to this average squad.

11.) 18 May 2019 14:47:22
I'm with Mort on this one. The homegrown lads take ten times the amount of stick as our other signings do.

Rashford, Lingard, McTominay have taken peters all season. Yet Pogba, Martial, Lukaku, Matic etc get half the amount of abuse even though most of them are vastly more experienced on vastly higher salaries and should be the ones carrying the team.

Of our current squad no player has scored more winning goals in semi finals and finals than Jesse Lingard. That's not just for United, that is including national teams and previous clubs.

Yet he gets peters every week.

Our best performance this season was away to PSG. McTominay was key to that performance. He was also one of only a couple of players to come out of the Barcelona tie with any respect in tact. Yet many want him replaced in the first team. Many still think he was only promoted to the first team to have a dig at Pogba.

The homegrown lads suffer twice as much scrutiny as any of our signings. How anyone can blame them for what has happened this season ahead of supposed top level professionals such as Sanchez, Pogba and Matic is beyond me.

{Ed004's Note - I agree with a good bit if what youve said but cant agree with you having Pogba in your list of players that arent criticised... I honestly dont think ive seen a more criticised player in the premiership. Utd fans and the media have probably driven him out of the premiership.}

12.) 18 May 2019 15:01:16
Agree with DSG and Mort here.

Rashford has taken plenty of stick, and unfairly imo.

We’ve spent obscene amounts of money yet a local lad is expected to lead from the front and carry the team. Sanchez probably earns 7 x Rashford’s salary but doesn’t get half the abuse (though he does get some) .

I fear for these promising youngsters we have coming through, it won’t be long before the knives are out.

Rashford carries the team best he can. He’s young and has plenty of time to develop.

Surround him with better, experienced players and he will flourish. Barcelona seem to be sniffing around, but perhaps some on here know better.

13.) 18 May 2019 15:15:05
Yh i agree with ed004 pogba gets most stick in the premeir league now that raheem sterling is in everyones good books.

14.) 18 May 2019 15:25:55
Ed004, I'm not saying other players don't get criticism. They do, but for some reason our homegrown lads are held to a higher level of expectation.

Pogba has probably taken more criticism from outside of the club. Yet many United fans would rather get rid of Rashford, McTominay and Lingard long before they would show Pogba the door. That speaks volumes about the lack of support our academy lads get.

I wonder how long it will be before Greenwood, Gomes, Chong and Garner are getting abuse for not being the finished article or for not carrying the side as 21 year olds.

{Ed004's Note - I will support every player that puts the Urd jersey on but can you honestly tell me you think Rashford (current form), Lingard and McTominary are good enough for a side that aspires to be top of the premiership? Would any of them get into City or Liverpools teams? I really like Rashford and McTominay too but thats not going to cloud my opinion on their footballing abilities. Pogba is defended because hes probably our only potentially world class player who has just been voted into the team of the season by his fellow pros. I think its bs saying our homegrown players get more stick than others in that side, Young, Jones, Rojo, Darmian are constantly slated on here before a balls even kicked, theres internet parodies about smalling and jones and Lukaku, Sanchez etc are never out of the media for one reason or another. If anything Rashford being English has given him a get out of jail card for how poor he was final few months of the year}

15.) 18 May 2019 19:02:42
Ed4 my sentiments exactly I think our English home grown players have had criticism and rightly so but far less than pogba. I also agree they are not good enough for a team aspiring to be top of the league again, for me squad players at best.

{Ed004's Note - I like each of Rashford, Lingard and Mctominay but only one of them is potentially good enough to be a starter for us if we want to be competing with the best}

16.) 18 May 2019 19:54:35
"Our best performance this season was away to PSG". Ok Shappy after this line of yours i will stop taking your posts seriously. I always thought, even though we disagree on a lot of things, that you had football knowledge, which now i doubt.

Did you even watch that game? We didn't even play for 88 minutes in that game.

17.) 18 May 2019 20:39:17
i disagree. mctominay was actually very good. i don't like the negativity around him from many on here, he's a very talented footballer, he's united through and through, and i would make him captain.

{Ed004's Note - If McTominary is our captain next season then hopefully fans dont complain in their droves when we finish outside the top 4 again. I really like him, united through and through, but he is not good enough to be leading our midfield yet}

18.) 18 May 2019 21:29:38
Driven Pogba out of the league? He doesn't want to be here anyway and would probably use it as an excuse fir when he does get his way.

Rashford was clearly carrying an injury the last few games.

19.) 18 May 2019 23:16:03
All of the reply’s to the “rashford quotes” nobody responds to morts post that it’s all bs from the worst paper in England! His brother/ agent has even said its bull. The lad is young and had a 7 outa 10 season. if we had him in a fergie side where he wasn’t carrying the can for his mistakes he would be allowed to flourish. Not because he’s English but because he’s a young talent he should be given time.

20.) 19 May 2019 06:38:58
Bias for academy lads will be our downfall.

21.) 19 May 2019 07:04:42
Becks, like it was under Busby? Or Ferguson?

We have only ever been successful under two managers, both built their success on a backbone of academy players.

So why would mimicking the only thing that has brought us success be our downfall?

And don't give the ridiculous excuse that "times have changed" or "football has moved on". There was 16 years between Sir Matt retiring and Sir Alex being appointed, and 40 years between when Sir Matt was appointed and Sir Alex.

Football is always moving forwards and changing. It is now, and it was then. A core of academy lads either in the first 11 or supporting the first 11 is a key element in what we will need to do to be successful again.

22.) 19 May 2019 08:12:29
I wouldn't waste your time .
I hate the " he wouldn't get in the x y z" phrase. Ridiculous comment that completely ignores teams, tactics other players a million and one things and smacks of nothing but the football manager or fifa 19 mentality.
The sites gone mad.

23.) 19 May 2019 19:45:08
First of all we have to stop living in the past, and it is completely evident that Rashford is an average footballer. He was unable to shine under two successful managers of all time, let's see how he does under a manager who plays according to his assistant's tactics.



14 May 2019 11:45:32
The links to edinson cavani worry me, the guy needs 5 chances to score a goal and apart from pogba our players struggle to create 5 clear goalscoring chances in a league season.

What would you guys do for the striker position?

1.) Move Martial up there.
2.) Stick with Rashford
3.) Trust Greenwood
4.) Sign an experienced striker like cavani or icardi
5.) Sign a young striker like jovic or piatek.


1.) 14 May 2019 12:26:20
Hes better then all the strikers we have and i wouldn't b3 against having Cavani. I think Psg were interested in Sanchez and i would give them Sanchez and have Cavani.

We simply can't go next year with Martial, Rashford and Lukaku as our main strikers.

We qill struggle to score goals like we have for the last 5 years.

2.) 14 May 2019 12:33:59
First choice would be Jovic or Piatek which isn't happening.

3.) 14 May 2019 14:30:03
If Martial is staying, then I would give him a run as our main striker, I know his attitude is questionable, but he is the best finisher at the club and has had very limited chances as striker since Ibra took his shirt. Rashford has had plenty of time as striker, but still looks like he has a lot to learn.

4.) 14 May 2019 16:58:28
Mmmm let me think dsg.
Your stats are questionable. Cavani does not miss 4 for every chance he takes.
He is better than anyone on our books at the moment.
In a swap with sanchez it makes total sense but i would not pay a significant fee for cavani.
Martial i would sell but very hard to find a buyer as we want a big fee and nobody will pay one. You need to ask yourself why none of his managers and coaches have played him up front consistently. He has played under 3 here and 1 In Monaco. Maybe they are all wrong.
Rash has not been playing well that's for sure but displayed a good attitude and desire to work hard.
Lukaku looks unfit to me.

5.) 14 May 2019 17:10:05
We don't create chances for our strikers to score goals that needs addressing first.

What's the use of a proven goalscorer when he will get fed scraps.



28 Apr 2019 13:50:15
Jonny evans has been really good today for leicester, still baffled we kept the chuckle brothers over him in defence.


1.) 28 Apr 2019 15:14:58
He's not that good, but he's better than them. Not sure SAF would still have him now but he would have lasted longer than he did.

2.) 28 Apr 2019 15:29:03
Can play out from the back, knows the basics of defending, good enough in the air and can communicate.

Only glaring weakness he has is a lack of pace.

3.) 28 Apr 2019 20:03:40
Sold for about £5m to West Brom, then went to Leicester for about £14m. Terrible business on all fronts for Utd.

4.) 28 Apr 2019 23:10:51
Feel he is at his level now though, and doing well - i'm happy gor him as he is a good laf. He is pushing on in years and has learnt a lot over his career it seems. TBH he still isn't a virgil van or a Vincent K. we need that kind of quality - now he may be slighty better than what we have (or may not) but i don't think he'd push us to a better level. Good luck to him but we neef world class now.



25 Apr 2019 11:29:48
Pogba in the team of the year. Only representative from a club that is not man city or liverpool.

Might not be as bad as everyone makes out or at least his peers don't think he's that bad.

I am sure he will get the praise and adulation on this site he deserves lol.

We need more players of his quality and ability not less.


1.) 25 Apr 2019 11:41:32
We need players who respect their own teammates enough to put in the hard work required to dominate a game, and not just the highlights reel.

2.) 25 Apr 2019 11:48:18
Team of the year? This is a joke, surely?

3.) 25 Apr 2019 11:54:02
I'd put makka pakka in there before pogba, I'd definitely have put in one of the wolves players before pogba.

4.) 25 Apr 2019 12:07:19
I'm speechless. About 10 good games and his fellow players have him in the team. Perfect example of style over substance.

5.) 25 Apr 2019 12:13:04
Haters going to hate, potatoes will potate, read on this site last year.

6.) 25 Apr 2019 12:27:30
There's no haters, just honest posters saying what they see with their own eyes, a guy with loads of ability just not interested in becoming a top player for Manchester united.

7.) 25 Apr 2019 12:37:18
As i said i am sure the site will support their own player and give him the praise and adulation he deserves for what has been a good season.

{Ed001's Note - you are very good at the sarcasm, only for a moment you actually had me believing you thought Pogba had actually had a good season rather than a couple of good moments in an otherwise dreadful, lazy excuse for a season!}

8.) 25 Apr 2019 12:40:56
Also becks is right, most posters on this sight have some sort of personal animus towards pogba, he has his obvious shortcomings but he is our best outfield player by some distance.

{Ed001's Note - you really are good at this. You really do sound almost believable.}

9.) 25 Apr 2019 12:41:39
A guy with loads of talent, who thinks that this means his teammates should do all the donkey work.

10.) 25 Apr 2019 12:54:36
I do actually think pogba has had a good season, and he is our best outfield player, although that is picking the best out a bad bunch.

{Ed001's Note - you really have low standards if that is a good season. Is turning up with the right name on the back of his shirt the sole requirement for you to call it good? If so, I agree. If actually bothering to try is part of it, then no he hasn't. He has played at about 1/100th of his ability all season long, that to me is not good.}

11.) 25 Apr 2019 13:02:20
That is a fair point of view ed, he does need to up his work rate but i don't particuarly like the tropes that cone out on this site of him being lazy and flashy.

Poor work ethic could be attributed to every player in the squad but some get away with it on here.

{Ed001's Note - Fred works hard, he is just total garbage (to be nice). Herrera is a hard worker too.}

12.) 25 Apr 2019 13:05:30
Pogba has more talent and ability than any other current Utd player. The point is that he does not utilise it correctly.

He ambles around the pitch, holds onto the ball too long and consistently chooses the wrong options. As a result we make criticism and expect more.

He should be dominating the midfield in most games but he doesn’t.

It’s very clear that for some time that Pogba has wanted to leave and that Utd have been interested in selling.

People need to get over this fact and let it go.

Utd will be better off without Pogba in the long term and that is how we must think.

He shouldn’t be in the PL eleven when you consider players at other clubs such as Wolves, Watford, Spurs etc.

13.) 25 Apr 2019 13:06:53
He should have been dragged when Sterling out jumped him to win a header. Regardless of whether we had subs or not!

14.) 25 Apr 2019 13:10:27
Read a good piece by a former player about how players chose who to vote for.

For the most part, players vote for the player they found most difficult to play against. If you are an average Premier League midfielder tasked with stopping Pogba then you can see why he would stand out. He is strong, he is quick and he has good ball control. He floats around the pitch and can pass a ball 90 yards. All in all, a nightmare to DIRECTLY play against as - even if he fails to play at his best - his style is a nightmare to play against.

Now he certainly has his detractors on here and plenty of the criticism is rightful. However, he is one of maybe 5 players in that squad who are actually Man Utd class. It isn't his fault that he doesn't fit the style we play.

Finally, compare Pogba and Fred. Both cost astronomical amounts of money. PP has scored plenty of goals and has a few assists despite not being at his best, being constantly slated by fans and the former manager whilst, largely, being used in a role he isn't a natural in. Fred, on the other hand, is - without a doubt in my mind - the worst midfielder we have had since the days of Djemba-Djemba and can't even pass a ball 5 yards.

Anyway, bit of a long post that went off on a tangent but, yes. Players hate playing against Pogba and maybe we would see his true value if he wasn't playing next to a hopeless competition winner like Fred who, truely, wouldn't get a game for any other team in the league.

15.) 25 Apr 2019 13:13:41
2 ex players on sky last night, whatever we think of them, 2 proper midfielders in their day, now 2 honest boys who will say what they see, souness just sat back at let Keane tell it as it is about pogba,
Before the game even started Keane said I don't believe a word he says,
Souness was getting attacked for talking about pogba all season so he was glad to let Keane talk,
Now them 2 can judge a midfielder.

16.) 25 Apr 2019 13:07:51
Fred works hard in the literal sense but could he not work harder at being able to control a football, he has had many years as a professional to work on this rudimentary skill.

Same could be said for lukaku.

Smalling and jones have been professionals for 10+ years but have not worked hard enough at passing a ball accurately more than 5 yards.

{Ed001's Note - some people lack talent but there is nothing worse than a lazy get who has talent but doesn't bother to use it.}

17.) 25 Apr 2019 13:55:44
That's more rubbish, pogba needs this player and that player beside him,

18.) 25 Apr 2019 14:05:05
Keane said he doesn't know pogba but managed to make a pretty strong character judgement on a person he doesn't know by speculating that he is not trustworthy.

Most of what keane said was usual tripe you hear from the pundits, he is becoming a parody of himself and living up to this hardman label people give him. He sells himself short as he was actually an amazing football player leaving aside the hardman image.

Souness obviously has a blant agenda against pogba, he doesn't hide it.

19.) 25 Apr 2019 14:07:46
Leahy, he just needs someone who can receive a pass and make a pass. Pretty much every professional footballer can do this. Fred, somehow, can't control the ball, can't pass the ball, can't dribble the ball. all he has is a Left-foot which has, genuinely, less ability than Charlie Adam's left-foot and a high-workrate. I'm not saying Pogba needs Xavi or Iniesta, he is much better when playing with Herrera and McTominay as they actually have the ability to be professional footballers.

20.) 25 Apr 2019 14:13:35
DSG, I would agree we need more players of his quality but with the right attitude and passion to fulfill their potential.

Poor work ethic + loads of talent never equates to a top player and such players come more under the microscope because of how frustrating they make it for everyone associated with the club, especially when they are playing for a top club.

Pogba is still regarded by most as being a top talent, unfortunately not a top player because of his inconsistency and at 26 yrs old just being a top talent is not good enough when you also factor in his success at Juventus and being a world cup winner.

21.) 25 Apr 2019 14:39:50
Pogba for 100 million and the talent he has doesn't give 1 percent of his ability like Ed001 said above.

Id have Hereras of this world over Pogba any day just b3cause they work hard.

We don't need Pogba for another year with all this crap. He never want3d to play for us why are we begging for him to play for us. Just get rid of him and let him take his antics to Real Madrid or where ever he wants to go.

22.) 25 Apr 2019 14:49:21
So72 if Fred can't do his job in midfield, what is he doing at Manchester United,
Neville said last night that's what he does that's his make up, if he can't make a pass or be bothered to track back and put in a few tackles what's he doing at one of the biggest club in the world, and who made the decision to pay 50 mil and bring him in, they should be shown the door as well.

23.) 25 Apr 2019 15:27:03
I could make an argument for at least 10 players ahead of Pogba in that team, it is crazy.

Eriksen, David Silva, Hazard, Brooks, Jota, Son, Fraser, Maddison, Gundogan just off the top of my head.

24.) 25 Apr 2019 15:40:11
Leahy, I agree - Fred is useless.

25.) 25 Apr 2019 15:52:05
People seem to forget the tripe served up for the first 6 months at Utd by 2 greats named Vidic and Evra. Atrocious they were but settled the next season. Same with Lindelof. How many games has Fred played in a new country, new culture, new team, changing managers and a language he doesn't know. Handful. How can you compare Fred to Pogba is ridiculous to say the least. Yes he misplaced a pass or two but atleast he tries unlike Pogba who stands on the ball till the time 3 opposition players converge on him and nick the ball away. Pogba is a passenger and needs others to do the dirty work so that he can make that hollywood pass at the end to Rashford, who would miss the goal. But i think the players are tired of Pogba and refuse to do the work for him.

26.) 25 Apr 2019 16:00:13
A joke gds2, but he is one of the cool kids with fancy hair and clothes, plus he has a million friends on the Internet he doesn't even know.
Everything is false about it.
And they made the toty a shambles putting him in.

27.) 25 Apr 2019 16:39:56
I am with you DSG.

Pundits like Keane and Souness dislike Pogba for reasons out with his footballing ability. I do not wish to start a debate about racism or that, but so many of the tropes that get brought out regarding Pogba are always exclusively applied to Black footballers. These ex-pros who bump their gums about dancing and haircuts think real footballers are people like Jonjo Shelvey and Lee Cattermole.

It isn't a conscious bias but it is the same issues that Sterling has alluded to with media coverage. These opinions are repeated and reinforced by the media and pundits until they are swallowed up - uncritically - by fans. Then, all of a sudden, players who don't fit the stereotypical English view of a footballer become vilified and held up as 'unprofessional'.

You know the whole irony? Pogba is an elite athlete who takes great care of himself. The very pros who slate him and the legends the fans hold up (like the immortal Georgey Best) were out eating fish n chips and downing pints of beer every other night whilst sleeping with everything that moved. It is the same across every club in England and it is outdated.

I am not having a swipe or a go at anyone on here at all, and sorry if it comes across that way. There a very legitimate criticisms that Pogba has to face. It is just about time people realised the dog-whistle nature of some of the criticisms thrown his (and plenty of other black footballers) way.

P.S. not trustworthy? Pfft Keane knows all about that after walking out on his country in 2002.

28.) 25 Apr 2019 17:54:29
Are we likely to be talking about Pogba in 20 years time? There's your answer.

29.) 25 Apr 2019 20:37:43
Good point, So72. I think there is a subconscious bias there alright.

30.) 25 Apr 2019 21:07:41
Keane didn't just walk out on his country, the man had standards and wanted to win the world Cup not just take part, and he offered to stay on but was told to go home, a load of muppets from the muppets show he was dealing with.

{Ed007's Note - Well said. What happened in Japan is up there with the Keane ended Alf-Inge Haaland's career on the BS meter about him. Shocking treatment from some Utd fans to one of their greatest ever players, I can only assume they weren't around or were waiting for a Blackburn comeback when Keano was in his pomp.}




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17 May 2019 11:43:41
Given the way united have poorly recruited and the poor relationship he has with the fans, i am sure his main career focus is just to leave the club.




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17 May 2019 09:06:48
Only makes sense if we sell pogba as we would have change formation to accomodate him, probably a 4-4–1-1 with him playing off rashford.

Ed002 has mentioned juve could use him in any deal for pogba. I actually think it would be a good move for the club as pogba clearly wants to go.




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14 May 2019 22:53:58
Lucas hernandez has left, rodri looks like he's going to city and now griezmann as well as godin and filipe luis.

If there is one team that plays with the fight and intensity most fans want united to play with its atletico, we should have been involved for these players in all honestly (maybe not filipe luis) . Maybe they are above our level now as we need to look at the tier below.




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14 May 2019 06:20:03
No one is paying that for pogba, that's why madrid and juve are trying to include players in the deal.

If it was my decsion i would sell him to juve and get cancelo and dybala, provided they want to come, whether that's in seperate deals or a swap deal.




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10 May 2019 09:22:28
I don't want to hype the guy up too much but i think people are saying he's the welsh messi.





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22 May 2019 13:08:51
Which club is going to buy him this summer?

We are obviously not going to sell to an english club, Barcelona have ter stegen, real have courtois and navas, neuer at bayern etc.

The big clubs who do need a goalkeeper (juve and psg), would they really pay a fee (say £50m for arguments sake), for a keeper with exorbitant wage demands who they can get for a free in a year?

Club most likely will keep de gea this summer and let him go on a free in the summer if they can't agree terms. This allows us to target areas that need strengthening this window like defence and then buy a goalkeeper the following summer.




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20 May 2019 22:39:11
The future for TFM will be at another club, he has had two loan spells which have been awful (key point to remember with the likes of garner and greenwood when people say send them on loan to gain experience) .

Things could have worked differently for him had LVG stayed on, these two effectively wasted years have surely set his development back and there have been attitude issues on his part so he is not totally blameless.

But no reason he can't take a step down and still have a successful career in europe.




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18 May 2019 16:52:11
Bayern are a well run club that is financially superior to all its domestic competitors.

Sane, pepe, hudson odoi have all been linked. I am sure they will cope.




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18 May 2019 15:15:05
Yh i agree with ed004 pogba gets most stick in the premeir league now that raheem sterling is in everyones good books.




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18 May 2019 13:35:13
If the plan is to play with a higher line and press more defensively then we require a goalkeeper who isn't stuck to his goal line, otherwise with the chuckle brothers in defence teams are going to have their way with us with a simple long ball over the top.

De gea is a fantastic goalkeeper but due to our rudimentary style of play hasn't had to develop other facets of his game like ederson, ter stegen, neuer and allison have had to. Also if he wants to leave let him, its the third time he's tried to leave so we should grant his wish.

Romero is a fine back up and henderson is promising but we should be looking for the right goalkeeper to suit how were going to play. Onana might be that guy or even cilleson.