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30 May 2019 13:37:41
Ed, are you aware of whether we are still interested in Luciano Acosta?
Very talented and reminiscent of Aguero.

Jodler56

{Ed002's Note - Luciano Acosta (AM) has been watched by PSG, Manchester United, Genoa, Lyon and Newcastle but Fenerbahce have made an enquiry. A WP would be difficult for England and DC United will look to renew his contract.}


 

 

 

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04 Jul 2019 16:33:28
I think that Bale, although a greta player, is too old and injury prone. Kroos also has his best years behind him. I would be very happy if Isco was offered in part exchange.

Jodler56

1.) 04 Jul 2019 17:36:47
I wouldn’t. We’re trying to sign Fernandes, who plays the same position as Isco.

The only Real player I’d consider in a swap is Varane. Otherwise, they need to stump up the cash.


2.) 04 Jul 2019 22:04:20
I don’t Know Danny. i would take Hazard. HAHA. :)

But seriously of the possible players to go from Madrid Varane is the only one i would take also.


3.) 05 Jul 2019 06:05:19
I would take Hazard or Casemiro or Vinicius Jr.


 

 

01 Jul 2019 09:19:01
Dalot asked to leave? Really? Are there not several others who should be in that queue ahead of Dalot? Young, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Lingard?

Jodler56

1.) 01 Jul 2019 10:34:54
Oh dear not this again. 🤦🏽‍♂️.


2.) 01 Jul 2019 10:44:07
Dalot is not leaving United.


3.) 01 Jul 2019 11:10:59
@Jodler56 100% spot on. I thought i am the only one who thinks Lingard is average. Young, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Lingard are not worth at all even for backup. If OGS puts above all 5 players in starting line up in a PL match then it is a confirmation that he has not learn't anything from last season. Just get rid of them and promote young players for those positions as backup. United will lose 8/ 10 matches if the above 5 play together and draw the other 2. This is perfect season to give youth some chances particularly in Europa league and get out of negativity that players like young/ lingard etc bring in.


 

 

21 Jun 2019 13:44:32
I don't think that Lingard should be 'warned' over his behaviour. If he were in many other professions, such as teaching, he would most certainly lose his job. I feel that this is an opportunity for Solsjaer to assert himself at the beginning of his United career and to instil discipline in an indisciplined squad.

Jodler56

1.) 21 Jun 2019 14:00:44
Yes but he is not a teacher and the standards are rightfully different in terms of behaviour.

People are overreacting so much and the entitlement of some fans is getting embarrassing.


2.) 21 Jun 2019 14:03:53
He does nothing on the field at least let him enjoy off the field.
His days are numbered at united, soon OLE will realize that even he is a virus and will be kicked out.


3.) 21 Jun 2019 14:38:26
Obviously there’s a bit of overreacting, and old men yelling at clouds.

But Lingard is a fully grown adult who still behaves like a teenager. This has been enabled by people at, and associated, with the club. How many times have we seen Lingard be described as a young player, or put in the same bracket as the likes of Rashford and Martial?

He is embarrassingly immature off the pitch, and woefully inconsistent on it. If he wasn’t an academy player, there’s no way he’d still be at the club, or playing for any top side. Absolute waste of a squad number.


4.) 21 Jun 2019 15:06:11
The lad is obviously a bit immature, that's come across time and again probably not the cleverest lad about .
But I'm not sure it's a hanging offence,


5.) 21 Jun 2019 15:48:22
Being a bit old school i tend to agree with you jred but in today's society his behaviour is not showing him and by association the lub in a good night. He needs to be warned about future conduct. Its plain dumb. I expect better. The moral compass had moved on from the days where you and i would deem that as horse play.
I often find myself saying pc has gone too far however i have to adapt when you have millions of followers you need to adapt quicker and show some decorum.


6.) 21 Jun 2019 15:52:57
It is stupid attitudes like Lingard's and anyone supporting him on this site that makes some of these overpaid and childish footballers so hateful in my opinion. Lingard is no longer a kid, he's 26. And as Danny posted above, he's achieved nothing and has a bad influence on the younger players, Rashford included.
To try a defend his actions in any way, is ridiculous. He's a United player, 26 years old and is giving the club a bad image. I hope OGS has the balls to drop or sell him. He's a waste of space anyway, and unfortunately, he thinks he's up there with Messi and Ronaldo.
Let another club have him and put up with his stupid antics.


7.) 21 Jun 2019 16:10:40
Attack
So what is that he has done that's so bad .
I could tell you horror stories of what some players get up and have done .


8.) 21 Jun 2019 16:18:17
Agree with Jred, he seems incredibly thick. Not sure he would do it if he was wise enough to understand the fall outs of it. Calling him a virus though, I am not quite sure. A little OTT. There is some absolute nasty stuff you could associate with some ex pros, yet this one is irritating at best.


9.) 21 Jun 2019 16:22:33
All players do some type of bad behaviour, their in the best of hotels, fed every meal, probably don't even know how to pay a bill.
They get bored and start acting the magot, we all did it at some stage, but they are that brain dead that they make videos of it,
Now here we are talking about those boys and the thread below about 2 of the greatest midfielders that ever played in the league and not a word about it,
Social media has the world ruined.


10.) 21 Jun 2019 16:25:02
Is he really hateful? Just seems very immature to me .
Does he really think he is up there with Ronaldo and messi .

Gives a 100% everytime he puts a shirt on, but I suppose he did put a childish, cringeworthy video on social media, of his hotel room .

He wasnt knocking women about, involved with kids, drugs gambling any crime . Cheating on his wife, with any ones else's husband or wife .
Organising dubious partys, associating with dubious " business assosiates" .
No he put a video on social media of his hotel room, making him look what he is, a bit immature and not the brightest spark. The club will deal with, they have dealt with far worse .


11.) 21 Jun 2019 16:26:06
People seem to be missing the point with the what has he done. He hasn’t committed a criminal offence but what about discipline and standards. These were very high on the agenda under SAF.

What is the point of making players wear a club blazer if you are going to allow players to behave as they want and ignore what the club stands for? There is a level of respect that should be upheld for whoever is manager and club and it is like some players feel they can ignore this. It isn’t acceptable on that basis. People should respect the club and manager, the fact it looks like they don’t should ring loud alarm bells.


12.) 21 Jun 2019 16:44:08
SAF said he would be a late bloomer but he’s going to be in his 40’s before he matures at this rate.


13.) 21 Jun 2019 16:51:03
Redman
I'm sure he will get his knuckles wrapped .


14.) 21 Jun 2019 16:53:48
To be honest we don't know if there has been or will be any disciplinary action for his video. Even if there is we would hardly find out and shouldn't do in any case. Any hr professional or club would keep anything like that confidential.


15.) 21 Jun 2019 17:19:21
Schmid, it’s a bit harsh to say he has achieved nothing. He’s played in a World Cup semi final and scored some important goals for us. He’s clearly immature but that doesn’t mean he’s useless.


16.) 21 Jun 2019 18:15:26
I presume by the complete over reaction to this non story that most posters have the morals of angles and have never done anything silly or immature in their youth.

We talk about discipline but didn't SAF have to rescue Roy Keane from Police Custody after allegedly assaulting a female following a drunken night out and didn't our very own beloved Mr Cantona assault a spectator live on TV in front of millions. Rio conveniently forgot about a drugs test and i'm sure there are many other stories of impropriety that I could share about Utd players misbehaving in the Fergi era.

I suppose what we're saying is if your good on the pitch you can be forgiven for almost anything but if your not you get hung, drawn and quartered for some immature joviality. Perhaps that what's wrong with football and society in general.

Lingard is immature, his video illustrates the lad culture synonymous with footballers and English youth culture in general. Yes the boy needs educating and reminding of his responsibilities and this culture needs tackling and eradicating if possible but would we all be up in arms if the Lingard had just banged in 30 goals last season and scored the winner in a Champions League final. No doubt the moral custodians will jump all over me and insist it wouldn't make a difference but if most people are honest whilst they might still find his video distasteful I highly doubt they would be so vociferous or asking for him to be sent to Alcatraz; He'd be too important for that and perhaps that's as scary as the video.


17.) 21 Jun 2019 18:21:25
Lingard is a child and lacks the minerals to be a part of Manchester United. Really cannot stand the lad, or Pogba for that matter. Rashford tests my patience too.


18.) 21 Jun 2019 19:12:31
Jred, surely a man of 26, A MAN, not A BOY, playing (i use that word loosely, as he can't play) for a huge club, knows the implications of his behaviour. He knows he's in the public eye. This is not the first time, we had him with that stupid video with Rashford, then he's launching some fashion label just before our biggest game of the season, and now he's on a video doing some quite disgusting imitations. I think it's enough.


19.) 21 Jun 2019 20:33:56
Hold on all he's done is make a video of a posh hotel room?

"Fire up the electric chair"

What does he do in this video that's got everyone riled?


20.) 21 Jun 2019 21:14:23
Nothing mort, he’s not really done anything that doesn’t normally go on on a lads holiday. It’s cringey and really embarrassing but that’s it. No harm done.
The saddest part of all this is we live in a time where the British media want to hang our players for having a tattoo or smoke a cigarette and these idiots haven’t got the know how or sense to keep their life’s low key and this fool Lingard has even filmed and posted it himself. Just shows how thick and oigheaded he is.


21.) 21 Jun 2019 22:34:23
Meh there's worse things he could be doing. Its daft but hardly a hanging offence.


22.) 22 Jun 2019 03:35:58
He's pogbas bitch this is wots wrong with r dressing room this behaviour is acceptable! It could be the reason rashford has stalled! It seems clothing lines n Instagram has took priority over success results and pride.


 

 

16 Jun 2019 13:08:41
'It could be a good time to have a new challenge somewhere else'
So says Paul Pogba. I would agree with him. Get rid immediately. Who needs a player with such a selfish attitude?

Jodler56

1.) 16 Jun 2019 13:34:54
The problem with players like Pogba are that they believe the hype that there agents and the media have spouted. He actually thinks he’s world class. If he goes to Madrid how long before their fans have the white hanky’s out. Get rid and bring young hungry players who know what it is to play for this magnificent club.


2.) 16 Jun 2019 13:36:16
The way we're being run, the lack of ambition and with fans always on his back. That mixed with the fact we won't win much if anything in these next few years, there's no surprised he would want to leave in his peak years? No good players would want to come here. We're out here giving players like jones and smalling new contracts
, were absolute mugs and mediocre players take advantage of our incompeten.


3.) 16 Jun 2019 13:45:17
Pogba off then, it is essential that we get our transfers in before we let him go. We must also stand firm for a good price £150 million.


4.) 16 Jun 2019 13:56:26
TRUMOURS

The message from the Manager is that a rebuild is going to take years, then our top players look at the players coming in and ask themselves what is going to happen. We have an amateur manager, no CL football, a ridiculous wage structure and players who want out to be replaced by more ordinary ones but allegedly young and hungry. It is a poor picture and unless they buy first choice players and get a top manager in now I fear next season will be difficult.


5.) 16 Jun 2019 14:12:56
So does he think he has completed this current challenge? Scoring a few pens I highly doubt was the challenge he set himself when signing for the club.

Get rid ASAP.


6.) 16 Jun 2019 14:21:35
So over-rated player without the balls for one of the biggest challenges in football wants out but its all the managers fault eh Red Man.


7.) 16 Jun 2019 15:06:48
Good riddance. Terrible signing, terrible attitude, bad apple. Ironically could be the making of Sanchez.


8.) 16 Jun 2019 15:24:12
Forget next season we will be somewhere between 5th to 10th.


9.) 16 Jun 2019 15:33:44
Mort

Why should Pogba stay for “one of the biggest challenges”? He wants to win CL’s and leagues, have medals to show and our manager is telling him to stick around whilst we rebuild. The managers message is not a positive one, our best players are unsettled, others want more money to stay through this period. Will the first choice players want to come to play for a team in a mess. They might have come to play for a top manager like a Mourinho, Klopp, Pep, Poch, Allegri, Conte, etc but we can’t even offer that, we offer an amateur. Think back how many wanted to come and play for SAF, now all we offer is money and history.

The club should have supported Mourinho in getting rid of the trouble causers, including Pogba. He is a great addition to a top team but not one who will make the same difference in a team that isn’t built to play to his strengths. I would sell him because his influence will be negative otherwise. There are so many things wrong at our club right now, the manager is only one of them.


10.) 16 Jun 2019 15:45:59
Red, Man, do you not agree the rebuild will take more than a couple of windows, or do you think these players, who acoording to you were so poor under Josè, are now good enough to negate the need for a proper rebuild?


11.) 16 Jun 2019 15:49:25
I am comfortable with Pogba saying he wants to leave so long as he is saying it to the club not just in media. Club should then come to an agreement with him if it's this year or next and if this then move quickly but agree with him what the club require regarding fees and speed of transfer. If neither comes from purchasing club he has to understand this can't be dragged on and stays for year.


12.) 16 Jun 2019 16:15:38
Stevie

Have Real Madrid issued a message saying their rebuild is going to take years?

Our problem is exacerbated by our top players being unsettled, how long before DDG and Lukaku are pushing to go, if they are not already? It means we need too many in one or two windows, so yes the reality is it will take more than two windows to really challenge for the league again, but why admit that so openly. The message needed to be phrased carefully and wasn’t, naive inexperience! Add to that If we had a top manager who players thought could compete for trophies and build towards a real challenge to the league in the 20 to 21 season the club would be more attractive this summer.

We should have supported Jose in what he was trying to do but now we have an even bigger mess.

{Ed002's Note - They plan on doing the complete rebuild over a couple of years or so. This has been explained in great detail.}


13.) 16 Jun 2019 16:34:26
How is he an amateur manager? Inexperienced I'll grant but amateur is dishonest.

Was he supposed to say "yeah its all fine nothing to worry about. "

Of course rebuilds take time. You want to blame someone blame Woodward he backed the wrong horse. Although Jose was doing all he could to get the sack.


14.) 16 Jun 2019 16:39:40
Hi Ed

It was more of a rhetorical question over Madrid and pointing out the difference in communication between them and us.

{Ed002's Note - They have phones in Manchester?}


15.) 16 Jun 2019 17:25:07
We have four in the greater Manchester area, but they are only for emergencies on windy days when the smoke signals don’t work.


16.) 16 Jun 2019 18:56:09
Which challenge has he ever achieved? He ran away from the challenge of breaking into the United first team as a youth player, he jumped ship of the challenge of stepping up at Juventus when Pirlo retired, he moved back to United to "solve unfinished business" and is looking to run off before he has done that. He did practically nothing last summer as Kante and Mbappe (along with good back up) carried France to the world cup. He didn't stand out or step up in a single game even though he was supposed to be their star player.

When the going gets tough, Paul Pogba packs his bags.


17.) 16 Jun 2019 20:20:34
The challenge being watching chris smalling pass a football and fred frying to control a football.


18.) 16 Jun 2019 21:52:48
Shappy

The club should have supported Mourinho in moving Pogba on to another club. I don’t think Pogba wanted to come back to United.


19.) 17 Jun 2019 07:14:25
Red man, the club should have never signed Pogba. It was known back then that he "dreamed" of Spain, but settled on a stop over for a couple of years before moving on to his dream club/ s.

Whoever thought it was a good idea to resign him needs to be removed from ever being involved in these decisions again. I suspect it is the same people who thought Sanchez was a good idea, and Di Maria a few year ago.

Personally I don't think backing Mourinho would have helped much in the long term, unless you feel spending large amounts of money and giving long term deals to players 29 and older is a good long term plan. However, I do concede that it is pointless hiring a manager if you aren't going to back them. If you don't believe in their ideas after you hire them then you didn't do your due diligence during the hiring process. For me hiring Mourinho was a mistake, he was never a good fit for the club, and that was obvious to anyone with even a modicum of football knowledge.

We are a club that has a reputation for having a certain sense of style both on and off the pitch, we also have had huge success in giving youth a chance. Mourinho especially in his later years has been known as being prickly and sour in his demeanor while always playing a pragmatic style of football and preferring experience over youth.

The only thing he had was a "winners" mentality, which many likened to Sir Alex. Yet Sir Alex bought into the club and the club's history in a way Jose was never interested in doing. Again this was obvious as he never bought into the history of Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan or Real Madrid. Some fans hung on to the hope that Jose would change for United as it was his dream job. These fans massively underestimated Jose's ego. Jose wanted the United job after Sir Alex as replacing one of the greatest managers of all time appealed to his ego, after he was passed over for Moyes he was never that keen on the United job.


20.) 17 Jun 2019 19:01:14
Shappy

You are missing the point when saying you don’t think backing Mourinho would have helped much in the long term. By allowing the players to dictate which manager they would play for, the decision makers doomed the club for months if not years of pain to sort it out. The manager rightly saw the problem as we can all now see, but now we have a bigger mess because someone didn’t back the manager. Those same players downed tools on the latest manager as well.


 

 

25 Apr 2019 09:07:50
I may be going against the grain here but I do not believe that Rashford and Lingard are good enough either. They flatter to deceive and give the ball away too much.

Jodler56

1.) 25 Apr 2019 09:53:06
Rashford is still only 21.
He has lot of scope to improve. But there is no world class forward in our team to guide him on the pitch or take pressure off him.


2.) 25 Apr 2019 10:11:28
I think Lingard is good when we are pressing high with intensity and on the counter. We saw this last night early on and in the first leg v PSG until he went of injured. But when we are not doing either, we are carrying him and this is the issue. A good preseason so the players are at the fitness levels that Solskjaer wants and so that we can maintain a higher tempo for longer I believe we will see a better Lingard.

There has been a lot of pressure on Rashford and I think we are seeing him burning out a little bit now coming to the end of the season which is resulting in his dip in form. Again, a good preseason, a mature approach to managing his conditioning and we will see a more consistent Rashford.


3.) 25 Apr 2019 10:20:17
Rashford will make it. He is displaying all the weaknesses of a 21 year old; inconsistent, poor decision making, wanting to do everything. When he matures he will be great.

I also think he would do better in a better team. He is carrying a massive weight at the moment. He would mature a lot faster with the likes of Keane and Scholes behind him. We need to bring in better players - and leaders - to help him reach his potential.

Lingard i have a lot of time for but he is a squad player - a very useful squad player that works hard. He's just not good enough to lead the line of a team that wants to win trophies, but he is committed and scores important goals.


4.) 25 Apr 2019 10:22:40
Totally agree pal on both of them but would allow Rashford time due to his age but Lingard is pony.


5.) 25 Apr 2019 11:26:44
Rashford is 21 but he has been playing for 3-4 years at the top level in one of the biggest clubs in the world and in the England national team. Being young is relative and you can remain young forever if you compare yourself to an older player. He is younger than pogba who in turn is younger than matic. Add to that the selfishness and the rumoured attitude that he has. He simply doesn't do enough to be leading the line at a club like Man Utd.


6.) 25 Apr 2019 11:46:42
Rashford’s issues are attitude related. He drops out of games if things aren’t going his way, and puts in half the effort if he isn’t played centrally. This is a result of not having any strong senior players setting a good example.

Lingard is a wasterman. Despite his mobility and willingness to run about a lot, he doesn’t have the talent to produce on a consistent basis. He is one of the club’s senior players now, and people still treat him like a 19 year old finding his feet in the big league. Enough said.


7.) 25 Apr 2019 14:42:32
Agree. Only because academy lads. and English.


8.) 25 Apr 2019 14:43:25
After last nites performance its easy to conclude that bad form is an epidemic at M.U.
De gea made a top notch save but why does he try and play like a ball playing CB when he is simply useless at it? The last 4 games have seen goals come after playing suicide balls - clear the lines man!

Smalling and the back line are looking nervy at every minute the opposition has the ball and to a point look scared to receive it.
Mid last nite, Periera no bite, Fred worked hard chasing down but tired early, pogba again lack lustre - always wants the worldly ball instead of sometimes playing simply. Rash and lingard just isn't happening atm- why does rash come from a central position to go outside and away from the goal?

The one glaring point from play last nite was that 8 out of 10 times the ball came out to our oldest on the pitch and possibly most vulnerable Ashley Young. It was himself to defend and clear and start forward play - astonishing.
All in all the City team didn't play to potential or it could have been a lot worse and other results did us no harm in 4th place chase.
To sum up, we are a team lacking more in confidence than ability with a good few players switched off as team players.


 

 

 

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02 Jul 2019 13:08:46
I think that we need two top quality centre backs. Lindelof is our only pretty decent centre back but I feel that we need more than that. Both Alderweireld and Maguire would be very welcome.

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