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16 Feb 2024 07:09:47
I read Utd want Jason Wilcox from Southampton as the new DoF.

Is he a good choice for Utd Ed002?

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Not as Director of Football but to head recruitment and focus on younger players. This will be the direct choice of Omar Berrada. He did well with the kids at Manchester City.}


1.) 16 Feb 2024 09:33:34
ED002,

Will Murtough remain as a DOF or will he be moved into a new role?

{Ed002's Note - Murtough is being replaced.}


2.) 16 Feb 2024 09:43:42
Thanks ED002.


3.) 16 Feb 2024 15:49:23
Let's hope Wilcox improved after his career change from a player.


4.) 16 Feb 2024 16:06:14
I’d assume ed this means moving forward there will be a greater emphasis on signing younger players?

Very interesting appiointment imo.


5.) 16 Feb 2024 16:17:47
Spenno. He did win the Premier league so he couldn't have been that bad.


6.) 16 Feb 2024 19:22:42
Bolton lad.


7.) 16 Feb 2024 20:21:42
Thought he was a quality player, and he did a great job at City. Southampton are also now a very young and exciting side.

Smart moves by smart people.


8.) 17 Feb 2024 12:18:33
The rumours are that the club are looking at Wilcox as a head of youth development and recruitment.

Supposedly this is the same role they considered Paul Mitchell for but he wanted a bigger role (DoF) .

What excites me most about his is that the club are seemingly wanted someone who will effectively be tasked with helping provide players for the first team from BOTH the academy and from recruitment.

Having someone whose role includes youth development seems to suggest that the new way the club will be run is to closely include and look to promote from the academy. This providing pathways for young players. Looking at the academy and the players within it, when they might be ready and if they will be good enough and to factor that in when recruiting players.

Things like looking at young players who might be a season or two away from breaking into the first team so actively choosing not to sign a long term player in that position that would only block that youth player.

For example if they coaches think Shea Lacey will be ready to push into the first team squad towards the end of next season/ the start of 2025/ 26 season then do they spend 60-80m on a new RW player in their early 20's like Olise or Neto?

Having someone in a role whose job includes promoting young academy players alongside signing players seems a great way forward if the club want to continue our proud tradition of giving youth a chance and developing young players.

{Ed002's Note - A kick in the gonads for Nick Cox I am told.}


9.) 17 Feb 2024 14:59:01
Hope they keep Nick Cox on - always comes across as a really genuine football man passionate about the careers of the youngsters he’s in charge of.


10.) 19 Feb 2024 08:59:38
Me too Wallace. I've no idea if this new role will merge the head of the academy or work alongside it.


11.) 21 Feb 2024 09:19:16
I listened to Nick Cox on Talk of the Devils the other day. Sounded like a great fella.

I really loved his outlook and how he marks success. Not in trophies but about how many of the kids go on to have careers be it at Manchester United or another club.

Shame is this is a kick in the gonads. It looked as though he was doing a good job from the outside looking in.

Any knowledge of Nick Cox ed?


 

 

25 Jan 2024 13:23:02
Hi Ed002, any truth in the Callum Wilson to Utd for £18 million rumours I'm reading?

Apparently he has 86 goals and 23 assists in 215 appearances which is a pretty decent record especially considering he played for Bournemouth and a very poor Newcastle pre-Howe.

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


1.) 25 Jan 2024 14:06:09
He is very injury prone aswell. Avoid.


2.) 25 Jan 2024 14:57:49
Good point that Mad Hatter. I was wondering why so few appearances for a 31 year old.


3.) 25 Jan 2024 16:14:15
It doesn’t make sense replacing an injury prone player with another injury prone one.


4.) 25 Jan 2024 17:21:59
Plus he’s a to€€er that falls over more easily than Bruno ?.


5.) 25 Jan 2024 16:15:27
Thanks for the response Ed002.


6.) 25 Jan 2024 17:59:22
I think the club should have a policy of not signing full time podcasters who play football in their spare time.


7.) 25 Jan 2024 19:38:38
I’m hoping with the new structure we might start seeing some sensible due diligence in signing new players moving forward. The above is not a smart signing in the slightest.


8.) 25 Jan 2024 20:01:59
Wow, I never thought I’d see a rumour that would make Shappy’s Solanke suggestion not look that silly but here it is! ?.


9.) 27 Jan 2024 00:43:17
Recall Greenwood?


10.) 27 Jan 2024 09:28:18
Greenwood will be sold for several reasons.


11.) 27 Jan 2024 09:56:42
He ain’t coming back to the club Utd Road.


12.) 27 Jan 2024 11:29:13
Spot on Eric. By all accounts he's loving life in Spain, why would he want to come back to the media scrutiny and backlash he and his young family would get in England when playing for Manchester United. Why would INEOS and SJR want to potentially create a negative media storm right at the start of their involvement with the club. Finally, selling Greenwood for a good fee makes a massive difference to what we can do in terms of transfers with regard to FFP as all of his fee would be considered as "profit" on the accounts as there is no remaining transfer fee to offset.

We could see players like Greenwood, McTominay, Hannibal and Alvaro Fernandez leave this summer as all technically count as academy players and all of the fee received counts as profit in the eyes of FFP.

Much like we will see several high earners like Varane, Casemiro, Sancho, Maguire and Martial leave as getting their wages off the balance sheets also make a big difference and frees up space for the club to make moves to bring players in this summer.

While we will likely see the likes of Donny, Pellistri and AWB leave on permanent deals, the fact that whatever fees are still to be amortised from their signings would be deducted from any fees we receive for FFP.

FFP will make a big impact on what we do this summer, as we need to shift players to be able to make signings and stay within the rules. Which when we see punishments being dished out to Everton and Forest and City's 118 charges hanging over them, it's probably wise to make sure we don't fall foul of these rules.


 

 

17 Jan 2024 07:14:24
Hi Ed002, do you know if there is anything to the rumour of Óscar Zambrano to Utd?

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Oscar Zambrano (DM) Work Permit will be an issue in England unless paying over the odds. Luton have held discussions with Frieburg, Eintract Frankfurt and Troyes declared an interest. Ajax interest has gone. Wildcard may be Bournemouth who are well placed to overcome the Work Permit concern.}


1.) 17 Jan 2024 12:38:43
Thanks Ed002.


 

 

15 Jan 2024 21:21:50
Hi Ed 002, any truth to the Benzema to Utd rumours?

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Benzema is being offered around obut he is 36 and the wages are huge. His club may block any move.}


1.) 16 Jan 2024 10:43:43
Its an absolute Crazy rumour in my opinion. He is on some crazy wage and imo would massively struggle in the pl and way past playing in this league. No way we would do anything as stupid as this. I can see a loan for a striker but not Benzema.


2.) 16 Jan 2024 12:38:24
Thanks Ed002.

Ahmad, I admire your optimism but Utd have lots of form for doing plenty of things just as stupid; Schweinsteiger, Falcao to name two.

Hopefully Sir Jim's arrival will change that going forward.


3.) 16 Jan 2024 14:55:01
Mancman

Here is to hoping we have learnt from the past. Its exactly that stuff and why we are where we are. We should be buying the exceptional 20 to 23 year old and not after they have played for real or Barcelona or Bayern not their late 20's early thirties and bringing them over and giving them a retirement contract.


4.) 16 Jan 2024 20:13:29
There are worse options to be honest. I'm not advocating for the move, but if any sort of short term loan where we don't pay all his wages would give us a proven elite striker who is also very capable of bringing others into play and being a creative focal point not just a tap in merchant.

Personally I wouldn't look to do this deal. I think the problem is that we don't create enough chances for our forwards, bringing in better finishers is at best half an attempt at putting a plaster over a gaping wound.

We'd likely just have a bigger name player on massive wages feeding on scarps and having 1 or 2 half chances a game.

Personally the area we need to fix is the midfield. We don't have any control or ball progression in the heart of the team. Fix the midfield and suddenly our defence isn't as exposed and over worked, almost certainly leading to a better defensive record. While we might also be able to get a foothold in games and actually start creating some chances. Or at least have enough of the ball in the middle and final thirds to start working on some better patterns of play.

Currently our total inability to control the game is leaving us exposed defensively and blunt in attack.

Someone posted further down the page that the 18 year old Kobbie Mainoo is statistically our best midfielder. When that is the case you don't have to look any further than that to know what is wrong with our team right now.


5.) 17 Jan 2024 19:04:29
If we sign Benzema, even on loan……we’ve learned absolutely nothing from the last 5-10 years.


6.) 18 Jan 2024 15:49:15
I don't think you can tar every player of this ilk (ie just past their prime, mid-thirties), or all of our experiences, with the same brush. Zlatan was ok, wasn't he? Yes, it would be expensive, probably (ok, definitely) money we don't have. But even though I love Hojland, we need more up front, even on loan for a few months while he settles in. Two prem goals since May for our main striker, come on.
If Benzema was available for a few months I'd love to see it.


 

 

03 Jan 2024 15:55:26
Hi Ed002, anything in the rumours of Olise or Kimmich to Utd?

Many thanks.

MancMan

{Ed002's Note - Joshua Kimmich (DM) Bayern Munich will now make him available, a signifificant fee of €90M plus would be sought - well beyond what interested sides Barcelona or Manchester City would pay for a 28 year old on €400k per week although Manchester City may well look to find a solution that suits everybody. However, talks have already been held with Al Ahli over a move. A wildcard option would be Manchester United.

Michael Olise (RW/AM) PSG and Manchester City want him as cover although the departure of Mahrez will mean more opportunities now, but the position is effectively Foden's. If de Bruyne or Silva were to depart, he becomes an option again. Crystal Palace has no real interest in selling but know that Chelsea want to take Olise back to Stamford Bridge and Olise has made clear that one day he wants to be playing with his brother. Down the list of AM players Chelsea want but they will perhaps push for him. His representative has said no other clubs have made an approach for Olise - but maybe Klopp's obsession with Chelsea Academy players will continue.}


1.) 04 Jan 2024 03:02:39
I've heard they're planning to bring the former world No 226 men's tennis player Marc Kimmich into the fold to help show some players what needs to happen for there to be a productive burst of energy.

Also, I've heard we're looking at Richard Olise to come in as backup to Hojlund. I know he's a RB, but that's still an upgrade on Martial.


2.) 04 Jan 2024 07:03:35
I think pure madness for us to go anywhere near a Kimich given the numbers and never in a million years worth it. It will be a very very bad deal and make the Pogba deal look great. Hope Liverpool or city spill their guts and buy him :)


3.) 03 Jan 2024 21:43:46
Thanks Ed002, great info as always.


4.) 04 Jan 2024 09:06:00
Ahmad,

Kimmich is a top player and a winner. I’d have him in the morning.


5.) 04 Jan 2024 10:02:43
Outstanding player. going to take a huge wedge to land him though.


6.) 04 Jan 2024 10:42:40
Next year he is 29 I believe, 90 mill and 400k a week on 4 or 5 years no thanks for me, back to the past stuff we have done.


7.) 04 Jan 2024 12:16:49
And twice in the evening Caolan?


8.) 04 Jan 2024 14:05:48
Maybe thrice Wazza.


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2024 14:23:55
Hojlund injured for 2-3 weeks due to intensive training.

You've got to wonder whether intensive training is the right thing to be doing at this stage of the season.

MancMan

1.) 23 Feb 2024 15:23:42
How do you know it’s due to intensive training?


2.) 23 Feb 2024 16:03:52
Ten hag said it.


3.) 23 Feb 2024 16:05:25
Eth said so.


4.) 23 Feb 2024 18:15:58
No problem with that. Pretty much 1 game per week for the rest of the season. A good time to improve the overall fitness of the squad for the long term. Injuries and niggles will happen while bodies adjust, it’s normal.


5.) 23 Feb 2024 19:43:57
He must be gutted. Just getting into a dream run as a striker.
It's not ideal but it gives someone else an opportunity to step up.
I'm not sure eth helps himself with some of his explanations.


6.) 24 Feb 2024 00:17:07
I can see the lad putting 100% into everything he does regardless of the training regime. He will train as he plays and that's not the coaches fault and a positive reflection on him. These things happen unfortunately.


7.) 24 Feb 2024 14:27:48
Eth said its a physical league and with training injuries happen. it happens guys. why is everyone looking to blame something. its part of football. some players are more durable some not, its their genetics dna whatever you want to call it.

Look at reece james, when healthy top top right back imo but can't seem to stay injury free. looks fit and strong but unfortunately always gets injured.


 

 

16 Nov 2022 09:30:11
Beckham doubles down; trousering £10 million to support the Qatari world cup followed by moves to sign CR37.

Stay classy Becks.

MancMan

1.) 16 Nov 2022 10:10:18
Be fair mancman.
Getting ronaldo over to inter miami would be a great coup.
Unlikely I'd suggest at least this winter but it would be great for them and us.
No matter what we think of him he is still box office. The most would suit him at this stage of his career.
As for him promoting the wc i'm ok with that.
Players are playing in it coaches are coaching TV companies are televising it sponsors are sponsoring. Life goes on.
You don't have to condone their human rights record to work there.
I'd also be surprised if it is a fee as low as 10m tbh.


2.) 16 Nov 2022 15:37:27
Ken, you employ people and I don't but do you really want toxic narcissists like CR37 in your workplace representing your company? Maybe they have a role but they don't reflect well on the organisation. Also, I'm not sure Ronwho? is box office any more; he's just a sad has been.

On the second point; condoning Qatar's human rights record is exactly what Beckham is doing. Simple as that.

It amazes me that people with the sort of money that Beckham or Ronaldo have feel the need to behave so shoddily for the sake of a few extra quid.

What Beckham and Ronaldo have chosen to do because of the money and their egos has trashed their reputations and standing. Is it really worth it when you already have $450 million (Beckham) and $500 million (Ronwho? )?


3.) 16 Nov 2022 16:35:31
Trump gets a lot of media attention too. So does Putin. I could do without both. and Reinaldo too. All of them are narcissists with destructive egos, and I for one, would be happy for them all to slip quietly away (along with Harry and Meghan) .


4.) 16 Nov 2022 17:00:43
Mancman.
So all the players playing in wc are guilty if condoning their human rights record. All the TV companies all the sponsors all the fans? Your being ridiculous imo.
Do you put their petrol in your car? Do you fly? Do you use any type of product derived from their resources?
Next time your on a flight going on holiday think about how your putting money in their coffers. At least becks is taking money off them not giving it to them indirectly.
But you put all that to the back of your mind because it would be very inconvenient for you to not use their products. But it's possible so do you practise what you preach?


5.) 16 Nov 2022 17:03:18
lol shawthing, i forgot about the other world class attention seekers; me-again and mr markle. what a pair of losers.


6.) 16 Nov 2022 19:10:39
Ken, since you ask the question; Yes! They are all complicit in that respect.

I don't have a choice as to where the petrol in my car comes from. If I did I would try to buy my petrol from a country which had a decent human rights record (although it's hard to actually think of one! ) . If I had a choice other than petrol such as eFuel then I would use it.

The players are entering a sporting competition and it's not their fault the location has been chosen simply because it paid the biggest bribes. Yes, they could make a statement by deciding not to participate but that's a heck of an ask of these young people who on the whole are just interested playing football.

It's a different matter when it comes to broadcasters and sponsors. These organisations have a choice and I would argue they actually do their brands harm by being associated with any world cup and the corruption that surrounds them (FIFA), never mind this one and the horrors perpetrated by the host dictators.

Then there is Beckham who is taking money from these vile people to try and make it look like Qatar and what they do is somehow normal and acceptable. And here you are suggesting that is all OK when it is definitely not.


7.) 16 Nov 2022 19:55:50
Mancman.
Beckham reputation is not thrashed at all. You might think so but he has lost no followers no sponsors and no money by advertorial this role. Your letting your emotions dictate your thought process.
Ronaldos rep maybe for the moment under pressure but all this will be yesterday's news in no time and if he scores goals and did well at inter he will be revered.
Yes I employ people and yes I would employ Beckham in the morning or approach him to help one of my brands. (I could not afford him)
Hiring ronaldo next will be a good move depending on who you are and I think it would be a great move for inter.
There is little room in business for emotion.
Numbers do the talking and the numbers ronaldo would bring to miami are to big to ignore.
Yes you would do a risk assessment and look at context etc but I think he would be a great signing for inter.
I would never let my emotions dictate business decisions.


8.) 16 Nov 2022 20:40:27
Mancman I'm not suggesting they're human rights record is OK so let's be clear on that.
But I am suggesting it's OK to work there and do business there and to have friends from there.
I know a gay people who do business there.


9.) 17 Nov 2022 08:45:14
There's perhaps a difference Ken between who Beckham is doing business with and perhaps who you might be doing business with.

On the one hand I expect you do business with your Qatari peers or non Qataris who live in Qatar and are all perfectly respectable decent human beings as I am sure you are.

Beckham on the other hand is receiving money to promote a despotic regime of slavers who commit human rights abuses.

You see the difference right?

If Beckham was representing Hitler or a child sex grooming gang would that be OK as far as you're concerned because it's just business and emotions shouldn't get in the way?


10.) 17 Nov 2022 12:08:10
No he is not manman he is being paid to promote a football tournament in quasar not to promote any individual or family.
Get your facts right.
Do you know who is paying him?
You've no idea don't jump to conclusions just to back up your ridicules argument.
When Beckham promotes an individual and tries to justify their human rights record let me know mancman.


11.) 17 Nov 2022 15:13:58
Ken, I think you re splitting hairs and being rather disingenuous.

You know as well as I do that hosting/ bank rolling the world cup and other sporting tournaments plus owning football clubs is an attempt at sportwashing.

You know perfectly well that regimes such as Qatar, Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia use sportwashing to try and make themselves acceptable to the rest of the world in an attempt to distract and cover up the appalling activities they carry out to maintain power including slavery and genocide.

Beckham is taking money from the Qatari Government to help with exactly this process. He is being paid to pretend that Qatar is a modern, progressive society when we all know it is very much the opposite.

You don't need me to explain this to you, you know it already so I don't understand why you are pretending to be so naive by suggesting he is "just promoting a football tournament".


12.) 18 Nov 2022 13:47:33
I don't believe that that's their objective manman when buying into football clubs.
They are not trying to improve or hide their way of running the country or countries.
If you think that's their objective I feel your mistaken.
If they wanted people to believe they were more inclusive and progressive then they need to change their laws not buy football clubs or host tournaments.
You can see by the drink ban today that they are not for bending on that so it's not a problem exercise at all.
Your mad If you think that's their objective.
Have you ever been there?


 

 

08 Aug 2022 11:47:40
After yesterday I am now starting to think that Utd are more a mid table team at best rather than top four or top six.

Traditionally they have spent lots of money on players but I don't think those levels of funds are available anymore.

Utd need to start thinking like a mid table team and recruit accordingly. They need to stop fantasising about players like FdJ for mega money because the whole squad needs replacing and Utd can't afford to pay top dollar for every new player. Plus as they are finding with FdJ, these top level players don't want to come to Utd and why would they? FdJ won't move to Wolves or Villa so why on earth do Utd think he wants to join them?

Utd now need to get creative and start thinking like clubs such as Brighton and Southampton for their recruitment. Even Newcastle with new cash have been very astute with their additions so far in this window.

If Utd are going to get to the top again it's going to be a long climb. The first step is to improve on what there is. The perfect is the enemy of the good enough and unfortunately the pursuit of FDJ is really getting in the way of signing two new midfielders who are good enough to massively improve Utd's midfield straightaway. They might not be the players required to compete at the very top level but I believe Utd can bring in some players who will do an excellent job for a few seasons. The same is true all over the pitch.

Having said this, Utd have to be smart as well as creative which means more players like Erikson rather than Arnautovic. These gems are out there but finding and acquiring them requires the right structures for scouting and then negotiating the purchase. More importantly it requires a more humble and realistic attitude as to where the club is at and what it needs right now.

If Utd don't make any real changes before the end of the transfer window then I estimate they will finish somewhere between 10th and 13th because there are at least 10 better teams/ squads in the division.

MancMan

1.) 08 Aug 2022 12:13:04
We got beat by a team that lost their 2 best players so effectively fielded a weaker team than the one that beat us 4-0. there are more than 10 team better than us.

If this is it for incomings, and we now rely on players no one else wants, a top half finish looks like a pipe dream.


2.) 08 Aug 2022 12:40:31
Are funds limited?

We've spent best part of 70m on Martinez and Malacia. Given Eriksen a well paid contract.

We have an offer of £64-72m accepted by Barcelona for Frankie De Jong, if that deal goes through we will have spent over 140m.

While we reportedly offered 60m for Antony from Ajax which was rejected, but again if that deal was accepted that could have potentially taken our summer spending to around 200m mark.

I think the money is there to spend on the right players, but the club are trying to learn from past mistakes and refuse to over pay for the wrong players/ our 3rd,4th or 5th choice.


3.) 08 Aug 2022 13:10:28
I think the board has belatedly recognized the depths to which we have sunk under Woodward's misguided leadership and are now in the process of dealing with that reality, which is to say the dilution of the club's financial strength. We have very little value in the squad itself, an elevated debt, no champions league football, and one 37 year old marquee clickbait player who no one else wants. If things don't improve the most lucrative sponsorship deals will go elsewhere as the best players and managers have already done.

The signs have been there since before SAF retired. The spat with Rooney when he put in a transfer request when he realized the club's lack of ambition in the transfer market. the "no value" excuse. He was bribed out of moving. The need to overpay to get any top players to join us, and then the surprise when these reluctant mercenaries failed to impress. And why did they jump at the chance of hiring OGS? Because the job was regarded as toxic and no top manager wanted it. His brief period of success was jumped upon despite having said he was just a caretaker.

So, how as businessmen do they move forward? Basically what they have done: hire a manager who can maximize potential and instill a system and discipline while cutting the fat out of the payroll, intending to restore profitability at mid table level. The owners have taken a lot of hits recently. C.V. No ECL. And, ironically - something we all most likely opposed - the failure to move the European Super League forward. It would have provided United with guaranteed participation at the top table and the income that comes with it.

Yesterday's performance was dire, particularly the first half capitulation. But there were a couple of signs of potential. At least Rashford got into scoring position a couple of times. Eriksen provided some accuracy and threat. Despite the size differentials - Malacia marking Dunk was comical - we did not concede against any set pieces. We're not going to be champions. Top 4 looks beyond us. We're not splashing out on top players who don't want to come to us anyway. There will be no ground improvements. The best we can hope for is a setting of the table for the future. or a white knight.


4.) 08 Aug 2022 13:54:55
weve spent about 50 million net shappy. you expect not to spend much if you have just won the title but we finished on our lowest ever total, our worst ever season in prem history

saved over a million a week on wages.

more sales will most likely happen and if Ronaldo goes that's another massive chunk of money saved

but never mind ay we have had bids rejected for players knowing the fee was well below there asking price

getting a fee accepted for a player that doesn't want to join, its all very clever by the powers at be, they can swing the "we tried to sign players" quote.


5.) 08 Aug 2022 14:05:21
The proof is in the pudding of what we’ve actually spent. We’ve invested in Martinez and Malacia which has been offset slightly by sales. That’s it.

Judging by the calibre of player we are looking at, I insist that there are limited funds available. The club has been bled dry by the Glazers.

Please buy these idiots out Mr Ratcliffe.


6.) 08 Aug 2022 14:52:48
Shappy, of course funds are limited. Why do think Utd have tried to sign a striker for £10 million and not £50 million.

Utd need 20 new players. They can't spend £50 million on each one.

Time to get creative and unearth some bargains.


7.) 08 Aug 2022 18:06:34
Funds are only limited because we have blown so much on trash. United will earn big piles more money though and sadly I am not confident we don't blow that too.

United aren't a Mid Table club at all. They are a massive club being run extremely badly thus ending up mid table in terms of results.

United will keep wasting huge amounts of money, more than teams above them until they luck upon a good DoF and Manager combination at which point they might begin to sort things out.

United are right where we deserve to be at the moment but it's not lack of funds that put us there, it's spending those funds on dross.


8.) 08 Aug 2022 18:11:54
I also meant to add that we have have become extremely unattractive to players due to the aforementioned incompetence.


 

 

19 Jul 2022 16:23:18
Whats' you're views on booing players? I'm all for it for lazy so and sos like Pogba because they need to be told.

I'm dead against it with players such as Fellaini and Maguire who try hard but aren't good enough.

MancMan

1.) 19 Jul 2022 17:06:45
You shouldn't boo any player for your own team ever you can dislike them not like their performance but were called supporters for a reason.


2.) 19 Jul 2022 17:15:35
Why would you support someone who doesn’t want to put the effort in, who can’t be arsed and isn’t giving everything?


3.) 19 Jul 2022 18:29:11
I think it's pretty shocking to be honest. Don't get it at all. If he's done something out of order and is in the spotlight (Zouma, for example) I could completely get it. But Utd fans booing one of their own because they don't deem him good enough, which seems to be the only explanation? He was overpriced, and isn't good enough to be our captain, but the manager seems happy enough and he's the best judge right now.


4.) 19 Jul 2022 18:35:42
I personally wouldn't do it, but I have no problem with others doing it. Each to their own.


5.) 19 Jul 2022 18:40:27
Because you support the club, not a player. You support your team have your opinion but we are supportors we support and encourage our team its that damn simple.

Biggest reason we have such lazy selfish players now is because we have "fans" of players, who only see the good the highlight reels, the off field dramatics, meaning sponsors aren't after the best player just the biggest star.

Rather than having supporters of teams who support their team no matter what and encourage their players to do better for the team and play better for the team.


6.) 19 Jul 2022 19:26:06
Doesn't bother me either way to be honest. You only need to look in here to see how diverse fan opinions are.


7.) 19 Jul 2022 19:44:55
It's definitely not ok to boo our own players. They are human beings. Some of them may be going through personal difficulties. We're fans. We should support them, and that includes if they are playing terribly. In fact I would say that it is exactly when they are playing terribly that it matters the most. I have a big problem with people doing it. By all means get on here and air it out. That's what forums are great for. But to do it in person is never ok.


8.) 19 Jul 2022 20:41:58
Don if people didn't boo and stand up for the club over transient employees like pogba or ole who dragged standards and expectations well below minimum requirement we would still be having to put up with it.
It's OK to boo people if they don't represent us as fans and it's OK to boo them if they are falling below our beliefs and expectations on how employees should represent the club.
I'm not a fan of any transient employee of the club in a fan of the club.
Players who earn my respect as a fan will get all the support they earn. I agree that this is a better place to vent emotional frustrations but a manager like ole was not boo'd early enough and ended up taking the club for millions and as fans nobody bats an eye when him and his coaching team cost more than the glazers dividend.


9.) 19 Jul 2022 21:36:26
Fans in the ground shouldn’t boo their own, there were times in the Stretford End last season where it was cringe worthy. We are there to support and create an atmosphere that’s an advantage for US, not the opposition.

In relation to booing players who don’t try etc etc…. we shouldn’t have to boo if the management were doing their jobs properly and in full control of the club. Hopefully we’ve got that right now.


10.) 20 Jul 2022 07:17:09
Didn't see the game but read he for booed every touch for first half hour. It seems as if EtH is going to be playing Harry this year though, so we need the best version of HM there is.

I wouldn't be booing him and certainly wouldn't be getting on one of our players back like that from kick off. I don't think it helps the team in any way to get a result which at every game is actually what I want.


11.) 20 Jul 2022 07:38:42
Ken you're one of the most level headed lads here so I'm genuinely surprised you take that viewpoint. In any walk of life people will sometimes not do as well as others want, but showing support can change things. It is simply ludicrous to suggest that the sound of boos is the metric by which a club should judge satisfaction with performance.


12.) 20 Jul 2022 17:28:28
Thanks Don.
I'm afraid that we differ slightly on this one but only slightly.
I believe that a player or anybody as you say when going through a tough time needs to be shown empathy and support but that caveat to that is they must be deserving of our respect and empathy and support.
A player, and we have had many over the last 10 years that is giving his all and is not up to standard then I would not be in favour of him being ridiculed in any way.
But if a player is a cheat and then cheats again and then again. If a player publicly shames the club and allows his agent (rip) to do so without a word in the clubs defence. Then the decision makers should be made aware and the player should be made aware that he does not represent us as fans and booing like it or not is a way of fans telling the club and player you've lost us and our respect.


 

 

09 May 2022 12:59:50
genuine question; what happens to Pogba if no one wants to sign him?

Does he keep lowering his wage demands and widening the circle of clubs he might sign for until someone bites?

Could he potentially end up at Newcastle on £50k a week if that's the best offer he's going to get?

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1.) 09 May 2022 13:13:43
Pretty much yeah. But seeing as there is a 450k a week deal from United still on the table I doubt he'll need to lower his demands that much.

{Ed014's Note - he’ll sign don’t worry Shappy ?


2.) 09 May 2022 13:23:22
Ornstein reporting that he has options from Madrid, PSG and Juve and has turned down city reportedly.

Certainly won't be with us next season but will probably be playing at a higher standard in Europe than we will be.


3.) 09 May 2022 13:25:30
I really want to believe the club is changing for the better and letting Pogba go is part of that, as is seeing some of the people upstairs leaving and Ten Hag coming in.

However, I can't let go of the feeling that this summer we're going to end up with Pogba signing a new deal, Martial, Donny and Pereira coming back and the club line on them is that they are "like new signings" and our main big signing ends up being our 8th choice defensive midfielder.


4.) 09 May 2022 13:39:55
It will be interesting to see where he ends up, and what sort of price he can extract. Quite apart from not lighting up the field with his play, his self-promotion and injury record make him a potentially expensive liability wherever he goes. His success as part of very good Juventus and French teams masked his deficiencies while reinforcing his generally languorous approach to the game.


5.) 09 May 2022 14:18:51
just let him go, if he hasn't got the desire and ambition to play in the Europa conference league then we don't want him.


6.) 09 May 2022 14:18:51
just let him go, if he hasn't got the desire and ambition to play in the Europa conference league then we don't want him.


7.) 09 May 2022 15:01:22
Utd have made him a £450k a week offer? That's insane! I think if Pogba re-signs for Utd then the Ten Hag project is dead before it's even begun; all credibility will be lost out of the starting gate.

DSG, the idea of City making an offer just isn't credible which makes me wonder about the validity of the claim he has received offers from the other clubs.

I'd love to see him struggling to find a club.


8.) 09 May 2022 15:48:18
Why would you love to see him struggle to see him find a new club? Very odd behaviour, don't see why fans are making it personal with pogba.

The reality is Pogbas future is none of our concern, he's seen out his contract and will leave.

The club has 99 problems to sort out this summer with a new manager and Pogba isn't one of them which is at least something positive for Ten Hag.


9.) 09 May 2022 16:01:43
Break that table which has offer and burn it.


10.) 09 May 2022 16:50:34
Don’t think anyone will offer more than allegedly what we have offered. Probably would still offer the club a lot on twitter etc despite not much on the pitch. Hopefully it will be au revoir pogba but with these owners, who knows.


11.) 09 May 2022 16:53:40
Club trying to save face and make it out Pogba wants to leave when he leave, Pogba will say something about the fans driving him out.

Good thing he not going City because he get found out as the most overrated player in the world, think he go and joint that Harlem Globetrotters team in France with the other clowns like Neymar and company.


12.) 09 May 2022 16:59:03
Sadly I can believe we have offered him 450k a week. The question I have is how? How can anyone think that he is worth that, it just beggars belief.

What do our staff see that I can't over the last 5 years.


13.) 09 May 2022 19:30:29
He won't be short of offers and will earn a huge amount more than if he stays with us which neither party want.
Goodbye good riddance. I expect him to do well wherever he goes.


14.) 09 May 2022 19:54:27
He’s going guys. Wish him well whatever he chooses to do - just not good enough for a club liking to be at the top of the Premier league or Utd. Plain and simple.

E wet one talks about how good he was in Italy. The standard of that league is way below ours, and he was surrounded by worries…. don’t get me started on international football….


15.) 09 May 2022 20:21:36
Doesn't hurt having Kante around on the international stage who can cover for him.


16.) 10 May 2022 09:43:50
I’m sure we will see clips of him doing well wherever he goes but I hope I never have to watch 90 minutes of that clown strolling round a pitch ever again.


17.) 10 May 2022 10:43:19
Do you hate him gds2?


18.) 10 May 2022 12:13:14
DSG, I'd love to see him struggling because he represents many of the things I despise in football which can be pretty much summed up as style over substance.

He has taken the michael out of Utd fans for years with his lazy phoned in performances and I believe he and his stinky attitude are a large part of why this whole Utd squad is so rotten.

He might be a nice guy, model professional blah blah blah but where it really counts he has been useless. The idea that he is one of the leagues highest earners is insulting and it's only this way because he looks like he should be good at football even though he isn't.

Pogba; ugh.


19.) 10 May 2022 12:23:29
Who cares what happens to him as long as he's out of our club for next season.


20.) 10 May 2022 12:27:42
Ahhh i see, so you hate him for a load of reasons that you have no knowledge of and are projecting that he has done based on beliefs.

Makes sense lol.


21.) 10 May 2022 13:39:49
No DSG, I don't hate Pogba but I really don't like what he represents.

As for 'no knowledge', I've watched him ponce about on the football pitch like the 'great I am' but to little effect for the last 6 years earning massive wages paid for by the fans.

What else do I need to know to form a valid opinion on this?

Dont you see that Pogba is a massive part of the problem? Doesn't it pig you off as well that he has been such a waste of a shirt?


22.) 10 May 2022 13:41:33
sim01975, I think for the good of the game some of these big time charlies need to be seen to fall flat in their derriers, rather than rewarded for being crap and not trying.


23.) 10 May 2022 14:13:45
I expect pogba to go back to Juventus personally and will not really miss him. I kinda gave up on pogba a couple of seasons ago after getting fed up watching him not track runners and doing his jog walk whilst opposition midfielders ran past him overloading on our defence. I always think to be a team you have to give everything for your teammates and thought he disrespected others by not applying effort (I would be appalled if I was a team colleague of his) . Maybe I am old school but giving your all should be a given. Skill on its own does not win you games and you have to equal or better the effort of the other team, without this you will struggle regardless of ability. It's not just pogba though a fair few of our players appear to share this attitude like pogba.


24.) 10 May 2022 15:20:08
Il eat my words if i'm wrongg but at the right team that he's happy at i think he will be the player that we hoped for but didn't get.


25.) 10 May 2022 18:03:18
I think the problem is Pogba isn't the player we all hoped we were getting anyway and certainly wasn't the player we needed.


26.) 10 May 2022 18:14:59
I wouldn’t say I hate him, don’t really hate anyone in football, I don’t know the guy, I hate the way he’s played for us and the circus around him though and I hate the nonsense in every international break. I’ve never really thought he was a great footballer and I’m glad to see the back of him.


27.) 10 May 2022 19:51:56
I find it highly unlikely he hasn't known exactly where he's going for some time personally. All this stuff all managers and players come out with about concentrating on the next game and nothing else matters. yeah right. They're on Indeed.com as soon as they get home like the rest of us!


 

 

 

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Goalkeeper? That's a surprise. ED002, do you know who are Utds targets and will Onana be available to offers from other clubs?

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Spenno. He did win the Premier league so he couldn't have been that bad.

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13 Mar 2024 16:57:16
W16wes, maybe but I think you're being a bit harsh. Employees move around for many different reasons.

Let's give him a chance to show what he can do before rushing to judgement.

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I find the mentality issue odd. What kind of business people invest millions of pounds in an 'asset' without carrying out the necessary due diligence?

The Glazers are obviously not idiots so why would they approve of so much of their (sorry Redman) money being spent without the most basic of checks?

Like you say Shappy a massive part of whether a player is any good is their mentality. It seems obvious to even those of us who are inexperienced in business that you thoroughly investigate the mentality of a player before buying them.

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21 Feb 2024 09:15:09
Imagine what Pep could do with this England squad then compare that to what Southgate is doing.

Given the players he has available to them, whoever is England manager should be winning the next Euros and the next world cup. Narrow defeats to France in the final maybe excusable given the quality of their squad.

I fear Southgate will win nothing and waste this generation of brilliant players by picking players such as Henderson and Phillips.

Just for interest, who would be in your England team? I'd go for:

Pickford
Walker
Stones
Dunk
Shaw
Rice
Foden
Bellingham
Saka
Kane
Palmer.

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