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06 Sep 2014 14:23:49
Reports appearing that Davide Petrucci has left United by having his contract terminated by mutual agreement. He is apparently joining Romanian side, Cluj. Another promising youngster bites the dust.

Mike B.

1.) Are you sure it isn't a loan or a sale? As the Romanian window doesn't shut until Monday. If his contract was being terminated he could join anybody.

{Ed007's Note - His contract has been terminated, Syd, he can't sign for anybody though, to do that a player needs to be free while the window is open. If an English/Italian/French etc team wanted to sign Petrucci they wouldn't be allowed to register (or play) him until the window opens again in January.}


2.) 06 Sep 2014 16:08:19
Cheers for that Ed. Seems odd his contract wasn't terminated two weeks ago, or odd that he wasn't sold even for a couple hundred grand a couple weeks ago. I guess the club are trying to get the wage bill down.

{Ed007's Note - He was out of contract next summer and knew he would have very limited game time at Utd this year but I agree, if he had been freed during the window he would have had better offers than Cluj. It's only a one-year deal he's signed with an option for a further 2 if both parties agree, perhaps Utd weren't going to renew his deal and he just wanted to be playing before becoming a free agent next summer and what options open up for him.}


3.) He may of had great potential but good riddance if this is his attitude


4.) Petrucci had immense potential when we signed him. If he didn't have his injuries he would be a great player now, not many players you can say that about. Imagine missing two years of football with pelvis issues when you are just 17/18. He never recovered from that.


5.) Ashame pettrucci had bags of talent but was very unlucky with bad injuries, wish him well


6.) Red79,

I'm confused, what attitude? Wanting to play football regularly rather than taking a wage for doing nothing all year? What an person.


7.) Come on GDS, he's not a Utd player anymore, now we're supposed to turn on him and pick holes in his character.

He was no good anyway, waste of money, can't believe he didn't retire when he first got injured. He's not local anyway, bet his agent's a wh0re, wasn't born in Manchester, we should bring Vidal in to replace him, what jind of name is Petrucci anyway? Etc.

(Can we sign Vidal now?)


8.) 07 Sep 2014 22:14:26
Fair play to him. Could have sat in our reserves for 12 months collecting wages or move to a team for regular games and the chance of attracting a bigger teams eye. Shame Anderson doesn't have the same attitude. Hopefully the lad avoids injuries, he'll probably be in serie a next summer.


 

 

12 Jul 2014 11:23:29
A newspaper is reporting that Danny Welbeck is a target for Real Madrid, to replace Juventus-bound Alvaro Morata. Can there be an ounce of truth is this rather bizarre rumour?

Mike B.

1.) Maybe he will teach some capoerea that he leant in brazil


2.) 12 Jul 2014 13:33:40
Welbeck is far better than people give him credit for.

However, I'd be somewhat surprised if this where true.

There is a rumour that spurs are, or at least where, interested, but that may have just been before Moyes left, when he was supposedly unhappy with his lack of chances up front. They've also been linked with Chicarito.


3.) Thorne - I too would be somewhat surprised! Perhaps a direct swap for Di Maria - that sounds just as likely as RM being interested in Welbeck in the first place!


4.) Id pay for his airfare if true useless player utd really have to get rid of the deadwood nani cleverely young anderson carrick can go to never seen such a negative player


5.) Thorne - no welbeck isn't better than we give him credit for. He isn't a man united player, regardless is sentiment. The fact he's a local lads great but if your not up to scratch your not good enough. His finishing is woeful. This argument he give us energy is ludicrous! Pay me £50k a week and I'll run round all day and night 7 days a week.


6.) Mike - he's a good enough back-up, but don't get me wrong, I don't see him moving to another big team, as I can't see him moving unless it's for regular starts up front, which he won't get at a big team.

Fireman - seriously? Carrick has been our only decent central midfielder for the last few years. We need a long term replacement, but mainly because of his age.


7.) Stand-united - Welbecks finishing is fine. He was one of the most clinical finishers in the league last season, with a better ratio of goals to shots than any of our other forwards.

He's also fast, strong, energetic and difficult to defend against.

His problem is that he doesn't get into good goalscoring positions often enough, but he isn't going to learn that playing on the wing. That sort of thing is learned by playing up front.

I'm not saying he's amazing, because he's not. But he is still pretty good, good enough to be a useful backup to our main strikers.


8.) Thorne I hear wat u say but carrick is a bad player only wants to pass the ball sideways or backwards mata played only half a season last year and had more assists and goals that carrick has done in the last five seasons u can't argue with facts


9.) Danny welbecks a good player, not a natural goal scorer but very effective all the same,defenders nightmare when he's on his game. thorne its a waste of time trying to defend one of our own against these lot anyway, I hear the same rubbish down the pub all the time by clueless fans, if they got out of there armchairs and went to watch him live they might realise how good he was.


10.) Thorne seriously, Carrick has been the best of a bad bunch that's all. He can certainly find opposition players with his passes.


11.) Fireman - that's because Carricks job isn't to create goals. Mata is an attacking playmaker, his job is all about creating and scoring goals. Carrick is a ball-playing defensive midfielder, his job is to use intelligent positioning to break-up and disrupt attacks, to intercept passes, to keep possession, and to start attacks, not to play the final ball.

If you look at the stats, he actually plays a lot of forward passes now, which he didn't used to. He's passing from a deep position though, so he isn't going to get a lot of assists.

Judging the performance of a defensive midfielder based on goals and assists is like judging a centre-half on the number of crosses they put into the box. It's not his job.


12.) Carrick has been like a little boy lost since he hasn't been able to immediately pass the ball to Scholes.


13.) Thorne we will agree to disagree i'm a season ticket holder go to most games in europe when I can to and 90% of utd fans think carrick is not worth his place in utd side we need to get rid of deadwood that fergie left us about 7 players are needed 2 centre backs another midfielder left back cover winger with shaw and herrea


14.) It doesn't matter how many games you go to, you still don't appear to understand the role of a defensive midfielder.

That's what Carrick is, and he's good at it. He was never world-class, but he's still a really good defensive midfielder, one of the best in the premier league over the last few seasons.

He's also unusual for an English midfielder because he defends through intelligence rather than crunching tackles, which is why he makes so many interceptions. Only 2 midfielders had more interceptions per match averaged over the season (mile jedinak 3.7 per game, and youssouf mulumbu 3.1, Carrick had 2.8), also he completed 88.6% of his attempted passes, which could be better, but is still 12th best in the premier league for a central midfielder.


15.) Fireman you lost all credit to put forth a decent arguement when you compare the role of Mata to Carrick.

they play in different 1/3's of the pitch and again. Why does it matter if you go to all the games does that make your point more credible? I cringed at both the comparison and the season ticket holder points.


16.) Well he was the best for years he would have been in the england squad henderson even got in in front of him I don't mean to be smart but u seriously are having a laugh if u think carrick is a good defensve player take one look at joel campell goal in champions league against us he closed his eyes and pulled out of the tackle and that's only a example they have been plenty more i'm not arguing anymore carrick wnt get much playing time nxt season anyway he will only play against small teams


17.) And if England had taken Carrick instead of Gerrard we might have made it out of our group at the world cup. He certainly wouldn't have made moat of the mistakes Gerrard made against Uruguay.

Gerrard was a wonderful box-to-box midfielder a few years ago, but he's trying to adjust to play Carricks role and he simply isn't as good at it.

Why Henderson went to Brazil is anyone's guess, the only reason I can think of is that he's used to playing alongside Gerrard, and knows when to cover his captains mistakes.

Still, you're the one who said "you can't argue with facts" (while giving an utterly irrelevant statistic) and yet I've given you a statistic entirely relevant to his role and you are arguing with it.


18.) I will drive him there for free if this is so, though its not my birthday.


19.) Right thorne u want comparision my fellow irish man roy keane he is wat u call a defensive midfielder now if u say carrick is better your dotting that's wat utd have missed for years and carrick in my OPINION is not up to it and mark my words carrick wnt play much nxt season


20.) What? Keane wasn't a defensive midfielder.

He was more of a box-to-box midfielder, although not quite like the modern ones. He spent to much time getting up the other end to join attacks to be a proper defensive midfielder, and when he was further back he was chasing players down, pressuring them and winning the ball back, kind of like Fletcher did a few years ago.

Anyway, comparing him to someone like Keane is meaningless. Keane is one of the greatest midfielders ever to play in the premier league.

No-one is saying Carrick is that good. I already specifically said he isn't world class. He is good though. One of the better defensive midfielders in the league over the last few seasons.

Note I said "one of" not that he's the best.

Vidal is probably the closest we could get to directly replacing Roy Keane, and sadly I am doubtful that will happen.


21.) Thorne i'm not going to argue with u u think carrick is good I dont. we need signing this season I think vidal di maria de vry blind maybe hummels and we will have a good season


22.) If Carrick is so good how were mediocre players able to walk right through our midfield?


23.) Darn! I was going to fake post Young to Barca, but Welbeck to Real sounds as good as mine! ;)


 

 

02 Sep 2013 23:28:41
Seems like we have paid £27.5 million for BigWig. That is some £4 million more than his release clause.

Top, top negotiating by Woodward. That is around £2 per seat per match for all home games this season. How can Woodward stay on?

Mike B.

1.) Fellaine signing is like knowing you have to buy a bouquet of flowers and buy garage ones in the way home just to have something.


 

 

28 Aug 2013 11:05:06
AS in Spain are reporting that we are going to make a 50 million Euro bid for Ozil today.

Mike B.

1.) AS want to make their minds up! They are now saying that Ozil has been signing shirts in the Bernabeu shop and that he has said he will be staying at RM.


2.) Ozil has stated while signing shirts in Madrid that he's happy and has no intention of leaving (tv)


 

 

 

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24 Aug 2014 18:14:27
Well, I thought that Cleverley was one of our better players today. Mind you, that just says how rubbish the others were, not that Cleverley upped his game or anything!

Mike B.

1.) I fault cleverley was terrible. Only passed backwards and sideways. Struggled to win possesion back and looked so robust and predictable on the ball.
He adds nothing going forward.


2.) Cleverley was one of the worst on the field imo with Fletcher running him really close for that title.


3.) You can't be serious?/Cleverly needs to go and fast he is useless, in fact beyond useless.There should be apeople carrier waiting to take some of the players onto another club.We are playing some of the supposed easier teams at the minute what will happen when we start to come up against the likes of Chelsea, man city, arsenal, even Liverpool, everton Tottenham, the way we are playing now I dread it and the rrsult.Things need to change fast and players need to go and replaced.


4.) Cleverly was crap as usual but he was not the worst today by a long shot


5.) I thought so too Mike and it does speak volumes because he wasn't anything special today. I thought he actually did most of the right things but people will always get on his back because they having nothing better to do.


6.) Cleverly was dreadful, I must have been watching a different game, not as bad as fletcher though.


7.) 24 Aug 2014 19:46:33
Always Cleverley huh? Wow, he may not be your cup of tea but cut him some slack. Is it his fault he's playing for Manchester United? No. LvG played him and he doesn't exactly go out there and walk about. He tries to do his bit, you can't say he isn't determined every time he steps out there.

At the end of the day, he plays for Manchester United. A club you guys support, and therefore should support Cleverley every time he puts the shirt on. You guys badmouth him as if he purposely goes out there to play bad.


8.) What just like we all should of supported bellion or djemba djemba etc


9.) The point of Mike B's first post was that Cleverley was not even among the worst, that is how bad we were today. He played well by his standards, which means very mediocre.


10.) 24 Aug 2014 21:33:05
If they are playing, then yes support them. You're not the person judging their games or what they do in training - that's not your job. As a fan your first job is to support the team, and that means those players who are out there on the pitch, especially those giving it their all for the team.


11.) 24 Aug 2014 21:59:08
Unless. they''re not trying, red79, which is unforgivable, then yes, you do support them. They're picked by the manager, and when they pull the red shirt on, you support them. Statements like that one of yours above, make you sound like a member of the 'prawn sandwich' brigade. Only supporting 'star' players.


 

 

19 Aug 2014 11:25:48
I see it is now being rumoured that Di Maria is going to PSG on a one year loan with a view to a 65 million euro move next year if all goes well in the loan period. If this is true, it's another one that Ed has let slip through his fingers.

Mike B.

{Ed002's Note - It didn't slip through my fingers. I blame ed007.}


1.) How can something "slip through your fingers" if it wasn't in your hands in the first place?


2.) How has it slipped through anybodies fingers when his preference was always psg


3.) 19 Aug 2014 15:16:23
Ed002 - nice one! LOL!
Betty - Woodward never got close enough for it to be in his hands (a bit like the Indian slip fielders in the recent Test Match at the Oval), so it slipped through his fingers as he reached out to grasp it. Simples!
Red - the only reason he will have preferred PSG would be the overall package on offer - again something that Woodward had under his control.


 

 

02 Aug 2014 11:32:24
So, LvG is now being reported as saying he would not be disappointed if we made no further signings this window. Sounds a bit too similar to the last few hopeless summer transfer windows to me!

Glazers are just raising a huge chunk of money by selling another 8 million shares, but I doubt that any of that will get into the transfer kitty, which sounds as if it might be being put back into the office safe until January.

I hope that I am wrong and that we are still chasing Vidal, Hummels, Cuadrado, Vermaelen etc., but I am not going to hold my breath.

Mike B.

1.) We are still chasing Vidal & Hummels, don't worry :)


2.) With Vidal's dodgy knee you would have thought we'd have been able to catch him by now.


3.) I hope you are right, Sydney!


4.) I think he's being serious.

He'll put all his eggs in the 'January Strootman' basket but we won't get him due to him being tentative about leaving and Woodward penny-pinching.

I think the only possible addition is Vermaelen if he gets fit. which is scary.


5.) Mike, all we can go by is what we are being told. MU are pushing for both Vidal & Hummels, if it happens it happens, if it doesn't then it doesn't. Many things can go wrong in a transfer, especially transfers as large scale as these two.


 

 

15 Jul 2014 09:03:36
I have just noticed how old the photo is on my avatar. My daughter and Fred the Red at OT, back in 2003! If I remember correctly that was just before the match v Liverpool which we won 4-0, with Hyppia sent of early on for rugby tackling RvN in front of the Stretford End - RvN scored from the spot.

Mike B.

 

 

07 Jul 2014 17:12:22
R.I.P Alfredo di Stefano. Now, this man was a player. He is amongst my earliest memories of football, scoring in five consecutive European Cup finals 1956-60. If he was playing today, he would be worth as much as Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar combined. A great man and an amazing footballer. He will be sorely missed.

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Some reports refer to loan move with £12 million fee and £200k per week, with an option for a permanent move. Others refer to 65m Euro 4 year deal with salary higher than Rooney!

You pays your money and takes your choice! Just so long as we get him!

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I would love that to be true, Sheff, but somehow I doubt it is.

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Sly Spurts were also reporting this, but have recently changed to saying this is not going to happen - I guess it was just a made-up rumour.

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Tom Cleverley - the only United player whose value is about the same as his squad number, £23.

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Sly Spurts is only a mouthpiece for Sly Bets - they are trying to drum up money from betting - they no nothing more than the average journo, particularly the awful Jim White.

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The next Bebe, more like.

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To quote Windsor Davies "Oh dear, how sad, never mind!"

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The issue I have with Vidal is that I can see him becoming another Owen Hargreaves - an excellent midfielder when fit, but spending too much time on the treatment table and retiring before his contract is up. I know that Vidal and Carvalho do not play is exactly the same position on the field, but I would prefer us to take a punt on the younger player becoming world class rather than Vidal's knee making a 100% recovery, enabling him to fulfil a 5 year contract.

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19 Aug 2014 15:16:23
Ed002 - nice one! LOL!
Betty - Woodward never got close enough for it to be in his hands (a bit like the Indian slip fielders in the recent Test Match at the Oval), so it slipped through his fingers as he reached out to grasp it. Simples!
Red - the only reason he will have preferred PSG would be the overall package on offer - again something that Woodward had under his control.

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For that sort of price we could get Radomel Falcao, who could be a beast of a striker in the EPL.

Mike B.