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31 May 2018 07:02:14
Before we start this is only something iv read. Its a nice old school rumour with a story. I'm paraphrasing a bit but apparently our new sleeve sponsor is "Kohler" (an American manufacturing comapny) .

So the story goes that the guy who brokered the deal let it slip to someone that we have activated Griezmann''s release clause. Him accepting our offer is a different matter. Either way he won't be announcing where he's going until after the world cup.

If the the sleeve sponsor announced in the next two weeks is Kohler, then maybe this has legs.

Woodward is always looking for the big "markee" signing. Maybe Antoine is it?

Mumbles

1.) 31 May 2018 07:28:53
Mumbles I read exactly the same thing last night and not going to lie it got me very excited. I am very sceptical but there could be some truth in it. I would have thought Barcelona would have had this deal wrapped by now. But I think there is something to do with his release clause being activated at a certain date. I would love griezmann he is my preferred no 1 signing this summer. At least will if we announce the Koehler sleeve sponsor then perhaps we can get excited by this.


2.) 31 May 2018 09:07:19
I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of a strategy to get Bale, There is obvious interest in Bale and the numbers being quoted since he scored in the final seem to have increased maybe this is our way of saying if the price is to much we can go elsewhere. The good thing for us is there is a lot of top talent available just now so hopefully we don't get held to ransom as much as normal. Saying that with the names being thrown around looking for a move in the summer anyone else massively regretting buying Sanchez.


3.) 31 May 2018 09:30:52
Havent seen those Griezman rumours but its always struck me as odd that JM hasn't kept him in the frame . obviously wanted him and by all accounts we were close to getting him - now he is "available" again, human nature says JM just suddenly would not be interested in him -yes we got RL "instead" Fergie always wanted Batistuta, Van Persie, Lewondowski . so I can imagine JM has always considerd Griezeman as one that got away.

Griezeman meets EDS galatico policy and JM likes him a lot. so its not completely impossible just very doubtful to me.

Martial leaving puts a new slant on it all, if that's what happens this summer as the lad seems unsettled.


4.) 31 May 2018 10:03:11
Martial keeps his counsel very close to his chest too which I do like. Has he been quoted anywhere saying he is keen to leave or indeed stay?


5.) 31 May 2018 10:45:29
First time I've heard of kohler so well done to them.


6.) 31 May 2018 23:44:33
Read the Kohler would like a partnership with Koke also.


 

 

12 Nov 2017 07:06:11
I just seen that we're linked with a move for Asensio. I would have thought he'd be one of the key men in the Madrid rebuild over the next few years.

Mumbles

1.) 12 Nov 2017 12:41:31
didnt he sign a new contract in the summer with a ridiculous buyout clause?


2.) 12 Nov 2017 13:38:11
I think if he is available he would be moving to Barcelona but itd be stupid to sell him as he is as big talent as Mbappe.


 

 

20 Aug 2017 00:13:28
Steady improvement is all you can ask for in football. We've improved the squad with some quality players. Our attacking players have hit the ground running, 4 different scorers today. Last year we were grinding out 1-0's always looking like we were capable of conceding late. I know it's early days but when we go up against the little piggies who built their house out of brick, we won't huff and puff, we just kick the front door in!

We have options from the bench. We have different combinations in midfield depending on the opposition. Maybe lacking a back up striker and a full back but we have players who could fill in for shirt periods of time.

The old cliché rings true. Take each game as they come. We have pace, power, guile, height attacking set pieces. A mixed bag to cause any team problems. A couple more of those results and the fear factor will well and truly be back!

Mumbles

1.) 20 Aug 2017 09:52:45
Omg I just said a similar thing to this Mumbles. That we need a fullback predominantly right I think. That we need a right forward. Don't forget Martial and Rushford can play central of we get an injury to Lukaku. But I agree two more would be great. Although it'll be hard I think.


2.) 20 Aug 2017 11:55:48
Totally agree, the signs are good. Two different games and the same result, if we can do this against good opposition as well then we will romp the league. Punishing teams is a great thing because it will scare teams when they go a goal down, recent seasons opponents always thought they could win from a goal down or at least draw - now they may fear a pasting if they open up - nice to give opposition something to think about for once as it has been too easy for managers to know how to set-up against us and exactly how we will play.


3.) 20 Aug 2017 13:20:03
I think its the left back sydney, not right. Blind looked like he didn't want the ball yesterday and usually passes backwards.


4.) 20 Aug 2017 13:41:02
Nonsense. Blind was always an option and played well.


5.) 20 Aug 2017 13:50:17
Granted his delivery yesterday was not perfect, but defensively he was excellent again and always offers an outlet.


6.) 20 Aug 2017 14:05:09
I like Blind a lot he always tries has an excellent football brain and can pass well but and it is a big but. he is not fast and most right wingers or attacking fullbacks beat him. He will be targeted and against the better teams he will cost us goals if played against left back.


7.) 20 Aug 2017 17:03:51
Eric - Not sure how you can say it's 'nonsense' when most fans agree with the point. Blind is a passenger, he offered zero going forward. Every time he got the ball he passed it backwards or inside, never gave an option for the wide player, no overlaps and he was frequently letting the ball bounce in the box or was lucky to escape being flat footed when balls came in. We won despite Blind, not because of Blind.

It's very similar when Rojo plays out there. I find myself simply hoping for an average performance, because the alternative is disaster. Most other teams have full backs that are great assets and support the attackers, Blind can't offer that because he is very slow and by committing forward (where he offers little) he is exposing himself to a counter attack because he couldn't catch treacle.

Sad but true, he is not good enough as a full back and against good teams we would get punished.


8.) 20 Aug 2017 18:38:55
didn't rashford start off as a right winger? maybe try him there with martial on the left, but martial reminds me of olly comes off bench and does brill.


9.) 20 Aug 2017 20:17:11
Ole didn't cost us in excess of 50 million.


10.) 20 Aug 2017 21:16:45
Beast mate, I think we'll be alright against the top teams. Jose likes the play a tight game somewhat defensive against better opposition. I think Herrera will come in for those big games. A midfield of him closing down and winning the ball back, Pogba further up marauding with a free pass and Matic being the insurance, I think that's the best midfield 3 in the league.

But my favourite part of the make up of the team is very much akin to the 90's united. We have the players to play with the ball on the deck if you want a game of football. We have physically imposing players if you want a battle. We have height to defend a last minute barrage into the box and we have the players with the guile to open up stubborn defences. And something tells me we aren't done in the transfer market either.


11.) 20 Aug 2017 21:21:17
yeah mark let's start trying to fit people in again. No!, let's get specialists in positions we need.


12.) 20 Aug 2017 22:53:09
Blind is a utility player - a defensive one. To criticise him for not bombing forward and neglecting his primary duties of defending is simply ridiculous. In case nobody saw, we kept another clean sheet with him at left back. He tackled well, was solid, and never gave any of their players a sniff?

Two games in, we have scored 8 and conceded 0 yet there are those on here never happy - Beast mate you being a Primary culprit. Enjoy the moment - may not happen again all season! Thankfully Jose doesn't take any of our master tactical analaysis or transfer knowledge on board and picks a team for each match he thinks will win us marches. His career record speaks for itself so I'll leave it to him and enjoy watching us play fun football for the first time in years again.


13.) 20 Aug 2017 23:15:40
Totally agree about Blind. He doesn't offer anything going forward always cuts back and is afraid to overlap because he knows he can't get back quick enough if it breaks down. His crossing is very poor and they are always from deep, hopefully shaw can come back and find some form, wouldn't like to see blind starting against any if our rivals.


14.) 21 Aug 2017 12:16:18
Blind is not pacy enough to be a specialist left back, but when Shaw returns he'll take that slot, and help Rashford in the process. However, he is still a great utility player to call upon, whether in that position, centre half or defensive midfielder.

Gary Neville wasn't the fastest, but he could read the game and was rarely caught out of position. Blind is a very intelligent player, and from what I've seen of him, he rarely gets into a position where he has to run one on one with a winger.


15.) 21 Aug 2017 17:39:03
Blind rarely let's us down. What he lacks in pace he makes up in positioning and reading of the game. Also tidy on the ball.
A very good back up and utility player for me.
Doesn't deserve th stick.


 

 

09 Jul 2017 17:11:39
Evening Ed. We're all pretty up to date with the potential incoming signings. In regards to the potential outgoing players it all seems a bit quiet. We know there's interest from Italy from Darmain and Rooney has left. With Lindelof arriving, I'd imagine one of Jones, Smalling and Rojo being surplus to requirements. Do you know if the club is willing to look at offers for these players?

You've said we're interested in a right back and a left back. Seemingly if we did get Semedo, him and Valencia would share the position until it would eventually go to Semedo full time. But the left back position was chopped and changed so much last year. Is Shaw in danger of being sold? Has he any suitors? I'd imagine his high wages and fee being an issue for a prospective buyer.

Sorry to overload on one post but is there any interest in Blind? I could see him potentially going.

And last but not least. Martial is the big one. Is there interest in him and is Jose willing to part with him.

Very much appreciated mate!

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with all of this before and it hasn't changed much:
Matteo Darmian
Marcus Rojo
Phil Jones (may not survive the planned Summer cull)
Ashley Young (Summer)
Michael Carrick (will not get a new contract unless no replacement is available in the Summer - else a one year extension)
Wayne Rooney (if Griezmann/Perisic signs)
De Gea (possibly out Summer but a dependency on Real Madrid renewing interest)
Sergio Romero (possibly - might depend on what happens with De Gea)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Luke Shaw
Ander Herrera (will stay after patching up the issue)
Juan Mata (possibly - maybe probably later in the window)


1.) 09 Jul 2017 18:19:36
Thanks loads for updated info Ed!


2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:23:52
I for one would be really peed off if mata was sold.

He is a class player and when he plays he is one of only a few who get the team ticking.

Ed can I ask what was the issue with Herrera?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}


3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:29:46
Ed002, with you having Rooney going with Griezmann or Perisic coming in, does that mean Perisic is a done or close to being done deal with them already letting Rooney go?
I think he'd be a brilliant signing!

{Ed002's Note - No, don't read stuff in to everything.}


4.) 09 Jul 2017 19:33:36
Herrera told the media that the City game was our biggest game of the season, Jose was playing it as just another three points.

Like every manager when dealing with the media you don't go off script and contradict them. They have since kissed and made up, but I suspect Pogba might be made captain rather than Herrera because of this issue.


5.) 09 Jul 2017 20:33:16
Herrera and Barcelona talk whilst on international duty was the reason jose was p'd off I believe.
Inter haven't been offered enough cash is the Perisic situation.


6.) 09 Jul 2017 20:15:02
lads, save the date and time of the above post and anyone who asks the same question, this week, next week or the weeks after, let them know where to find it. As much as all the banter is good, i generally scan through to find the eds reply. i'd imagine others are the same, the search function is great if you have time, but some of us don't, so perhaps a gentle hint in the exact direction by regular visitors would alleviate the constant requests the eds have to put up with. i'd be gutted if Mata left too.


7.) 09 Jul 2017 21:36:33
The search function is great, but an answer to the same question 2 weeks ago isn't likely to be the same now with how fast situations are moving and changing daily.

If Perisic doesn't happen because we won't match their valuation, does anyone know of the alternatives we might go for?


8.) 09 Jul 2017 21:55:27
Emil forsberg, but a deal is highly unlikely!


9.) 09 Jul 2017 22:36:37
That would be amazing, he was a machine last season. If inter won't accept 45m for Perisic might be better offering that for Fosberg. Think a few 30m bids went in for him a bit ago.


10.) 10 Jul 2017 09:42:04
I believe with purchase of Lindelof, Blind would be moved back to midfiled as direct replacement to Carrick. So it's difficult to see if smalling is sold.


11.) 10 Jul 2017 13:48:11
Blind a direct replacement for Carrick? Daley Blind? Wow.

Wouldn't bother me if any of them left, Mata is a nice bloke but doesn't cut it on the pitch, too weak and too slow for a Jose team, I really like him and don't mind if he stays but doubt he will be first choice and shouldn't be.


 

 

02 Feb 2016 21:45:14
Giggsy off to Celtic?

Mumbles

1.) 02 Feb 2016 21:57:40
I read he was home ill.


2.) 02 Feb 2016 22:19:04
It's rubbish.


 

 

 

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01 Jan 2019 13:20:33
I expect us to go to Newcastle tomorrow and get 3 points. It won't be as straight forward as our first three games but I think we'll have too much for them. The intriguing game coming up though is Spurs at Wembley.

This is a title shot for Ole. A free swing at the man that the club want to be the permanent manager come June. If Ole can go to Wembley and beat Pochettino''s Spurs and put a good run together then I can't see anyone else in the job in the summer.

United have put themselves in a stupid position with the statements regarding the future appointment of our manager. If Pochettino is the main target, why would he commit to us without knowing what Ole could do for the rest of the season. Are we going to remove a fan favourite at the helm to bring in an outsider? Maybe OGS isn't the long term solution but if he starts climbing the table and the style of football and results continue to improve then the United board are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

2019 is going to be eventful! Happy new years to everyone and all the eds!

Mumbles

1.) 01 Jan 2019 14:09:31
Apparently there's a 5 man shortlist for the job.

Poch, Zidane, Blanc, OGS and Marco Rose.

Id discount Zidane and Blanc straight away. Zidane would probably be better suited to a director of football job. Blancs not been on a management for a bit and wasn't that impressive. Poch still has question marks over the mental side of the game. It concerns me that spurs always crumble under pressure. Just this week they go second and people talk about a title challenge and they lose the next game. That leaves OGS who's doing a good job but hasn't had a big test yet and Rose who's an unknown factor and a name the majority haven't heard of.


2.) 01 Jan 2019 15:33:20
We have rushed the last 3 appointments all have failed to deliver and not been given time.

We need to make sure the next appointment is the correct one.

If ole can get us top 4 while playing the brand of football we are seeing and get a dof in that can sort the other mess out then he should be given the job.

To many times now we have gone with a manager with a cv give it ole and make sure the dof can sort the recruitment out.

Not felt like this about watching us play for the b3st part of 5 years


There are going to be games where we lose but you won't see us change the way we play under ole.


3.) 01 Jan 2019 15:41:23
Poch doesn't have the luxury of serious quality players for rotation especially during this festive period.
whereas, he would get 2 quality players at almost every position at Utd.


4.) 01 Jan 2019 15:46:05
There’s a great feel good factor right now but OGS’s management experience is sparse, certainly at the highest level. He’s a legend but that doesn’t mean we should let sentiment guide us, nice as it may be.

I’m not impressed with the shortlist, I think Poch is the stand out candidate right now. However, despite my reservations, Ole has a chance to show what he can do so who knows? If the players respond to him and start to consistently play to their potential, scoring goals, playing great football, and climbing the table, then it would be a brave man to ditch him for someone else.


5.) 01 Jan 2019 16:03:09
I think the club have done the right thing by taking their time with the appointment. The key for ole was to get the players enjoying their football again. Get the players out there expressing themselves and entertaining the fans. I can hardly remember this much of a buzz around the club since Fergie left.

Although I love ole and think he has done great, I do doubt he has what it takes to take the job permanently. I honestly feel the brains and the puppet master is Phelan. I wasn’t particularly enthused about ole until I heard Phelan was joining. He is united through and through and has a wealth of experience that we have missed for years. Moyes May still be in the job if he retained him and meulensteen.

I am firmly behind the idea of Poch. I think we have to resist being a prisoner of the moment and wait until we come up against the other top 6 teams. Poch is one of the best managers in the league and has overachieved hugely with spurs. He has a great team but lacks that depth and funds to compete on a level playing field with the likes of city and Liverpool. He is a great man manager, has champions league experience and he promotes an entertaining and high energy brand of football. I think we would regret not hiring him.

Too often as united fans we are blinded by sentimentality. That’s what separates us from the Reals of the world who are ruthless in their appointments. Love ole but we would be silly not to go for Poch in the summer.


6.) 01 Jan 2019 16:08:42
We already have the right manager, give Ole the job i'd say, give him 2,3 year contract with an option to 5 and we will get back to the top sooner rather than later, sometimes you just know when something is right and OLE has clicked right away, he knows what it means to represent the badge, he knows the culture, history, tradition and philosophy of the club, you guys want Zidane? he comes from Madrid, another one who will think he is bigger than the club, you want Poch? he wants Madrid first, Latin american players and managers think Real Madrid and Barcelona are the greatest clubs ever and in Madrids case justified.


7.) 01 Jan 2019 16:11:50
But that's my point Bolger. There was no need to make definitive statements like "OGS is only our interim manager while we look for our next permanent manager". I'm all for doing their due diligence but they've given themselves stupid obstacles to overcome. Plus Ole came out in the first press conference saying he'd like the job. It's a mess.

It makes the whole process ten times harder. If the board wanted a new manager, then just let Carrick have it until the end of the season with say Mick Phelan coming in to help. By giving Ole a chance they've seriously given themselves a headache they didn't need.

I'm really enjoying the football but I'm incredibly apprehensive about the way the board will handle this transition.


8.) 01 Jan 2019 16:18:10
There will be several candidates. If we can't get into the top 4 and win a cup OGS may be given the job but anything short of that and i'm sure the club will press on with appointing a new manager.

Personally i'm not even thinking about the summer i'm only looking at the next 5 months. 100% behind ole and the players.
He is getting much more from rash martial pogba in particular.
The longer we can ride this wave of optimism and feel good factor the better.
Lets see if we can make up the gap and get top 4 and worry about who takes over for next season.


9.) 01 Jan 2019 16:25:15
What else is OGS going to say when asked if he’d like the job. Of course he would! We all would!


10.) 01 Jan 2019 16:30:28
I might be wrong but I seem to recall that to be interim manager for any length of time they have to have the badges and Carrick doesn’t. The fact they brought Ole in says they are giving themselves time. I said this before but appointing OGS on a permanent basis would be a massive risk and I don’t think the club can afford another mistake.


11.) 01 Jan 2019 16:32:45
I keep saying that the next appointment by Utd must be the DoF or Technical Director as the role now seems to be mentioned. No point getting a new Head Coach until we have the right structure above.

The TD can play a major role in appointing the Head Coach. Perhaps if it is done this way OGS might be a serious candidate if results and performances go well.

Just glad we have an air of positivity around the club now.


12.) 01 Jan 2019 18:49:31
My insecurities are that Ole is just what the players needed in the short term. He does well enough to earn himself the job permanently but isn't the nan to move the club forward.

Stick or twist?


13.) 01 Jan 2019 19:10:55
I don't know how any one could give OGS the job permanently after 3 performances against some lowly sides.

In all honesty, it was an iffy appointment. Feels like just another PR stunt where Woodward is trying to distract from the underlying issues at the club.

I'm really enjoying the performances so far under OGS, however I'm not allowing myself to be convinced that this is the absolute way forward. OGS has a way to go before he can be considered for the full time position, if he is even being considered right now which I highly doubt.

Firstly, they need to appoint the right DOF and then make sure that they get the right manager that can work within that structure. I'd imagine the No.1 choice will be Poch but who knows how that will turn out In the next couple of months.

All I feel is that they have to clean up their mess and do it quick. Therefore, I imagine that OGS will not be in the running, presuming they sort out it out ASAP.

If OGS does get the job full time, it will only point to me that Ed and the board have once again failed to be decisive enough and get their intended target.

{Ed0333's Note - maybe you’re intended target doesn’t want the United job? Bloody hell youre arrogance is off the chart. You have no define right to any player or coach in world football. As for OGS he beaten sides Jose probably would have lost too. There’s no doubt he’s bought the feel good factor back and to boot he seems like a thoroughly decent chap. I really hope he gets the job full time.


14.) 01 Jan 2019 19:52:32
I genuinely don't think we have a chance at poch. I'm with ed, I don't think utd are what he's looking for. If he leaves spurs I think he will go abroad.


15.) 01 Jan 2019 23:18:24
Poch may be a good manager and many may think he is what we need. Maybe yes maybe no. For me, I’m not sure as he could be another Moyes from Everton. Both did well and maintained in a small budget.
More importantly as I have mentioned some time back even if we want Poch it doesn’t mean he wants to join us. So yes I agree with Ed0333 in some ways.


16.) 02 Jan 2019 07:38:32
Keep your knickers on e033333. Did you write that with a few jars in you or what? Bloody hell 😂

Of course United don't have the 'define' right to any coach in world football. I was just giving my opinion and I believe that Ed and his old chums at the top have no actual real logic behind this appointment, Feels like a PR stunt.

We may or may not get our first, it may or not be poch (Just a guess) . But going by the last couple of appointments, they surely have to get the next one right.

And forgive me for not getting carried away by the last 3 results. I'd rather see where we are in a few months before appointment OGS.

Hope that's okay with you and not too arrogant 👍.

{Ed0333's Note - mate I’m a raging alcoholic and always edit when half cut so my logic is always skewed. But correct me if I’m wrong has OGS not one every game he’s been in charge of at United? Has he not got the players playing for him? Has he nor rejuvenated Pogba? Is he not universally liked within the club? Has he not propelled you up the table and within reach of top 4? Has he not got lovely dimples when he smiles? You talk about getting the next managerial appointment right whose to say Poch or Zidane will be right or whoever it is Ed the pleb is considering. Maybe you have the right guy at helm already? As I say excuse my logic I’ve had a few drinks.


 

 

20 Dec 2018 00:25:59
Ed002, if you have a minute mate. Manager compensation is always a fraction of what players cost. It always has been. Why all of sudden am I reading everywhere that Pochettino (if he were to come) will cost us £50/ 60 million quid?

Is it that we would have to negotiate with Spurs or would we have to buy out his contract? How does it work?

Cheers.

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the money but if Manchester United want to buy someone out of their contract, some clubs will demand full compensation. Why would Spurs be open to any sort of negotiation if Manchester United want to take their manager?}


1.) 20 Dec 2018 12:32:24
Another question is: Would Poch want to join us?
Maybe or maybe not given that he could stay where he is and see what he is building comes into fruition.


2.) 20 Dec 2018 13:30:12
I have no idea if Poch would want to come, but we should at least have a go at getting him as he is probably the standout candidate.

EPL proven.
Good at developing youngsters.
Plays entertaining football.
Friendly positive outlook which is good for PR.

Would he want to join? Or maybe more importantly would he want to leave Spurs?

There certainly is an argument that he is in a good place with Spurs, the total trust of the board, the backing of the fans, autonomy to make the team his own and a. great group of players.

However, there is also a train of thought that he might have hit the ceiling with Spurs. Can they go the next step? Can they replace players that are aging/ wanting to leave. Tripper has done well but he isn't as good as Walker. Rose wants to leave to move back up north, is Davies as good? Alderweireld might leave and Vertonghen has had injury issues over the last couple of years. Dembele will soon leave, Eriksen is wanted by several top European teams. With the move to the new stadium will Spurs have the money to attract and purchase the required quality of players to replace them?
If not then will Poch be able to elevate those players to achieve more than his current players?

If he feels he has taken Spurs as far as he can, and that there is a chance the team might regress if the level of investment isn't available to either keep Spurs where they are or move them forward. Then maybe a move while his stock is high is best. Maybe a new challenge is needed or wanted. Would he like to have the chance to restore United to former glory? He is a huge fan of Sir Alex so that could also be a motivator.

I guess we'll see next summer.

{Ed002's Note - You missed - Never won anything.}


3.) 20 Dec 2018 13:56:44
Damn Ed002 you’re quick and sharp 🤣🤣👍👍👏👏.


4.) 20 Dec 2018 14:55:04
I'm not suggesting for one minute that Spurs would do us a favour and let him leave for peanuts. But this is the first time iv heard such vast amounts for a managers compensation. I know you don't want to get into money but the estimated amount is 10 times larger than any compensation iv seen before. Obviously it's all speculation and I'm not privy to the actual amounts but it seems excessive is all.


5.) 20 Dec 2018 15:20:41
Ed002, dripping sauce with the jokes lol.


6.) 20 Dec 2018 18:38:11
They have to buy out his contract mumbles, he's just signed a 5 year contract at a high rate so it would add up to a lot. Generally when managers are poached it's from smaller clubs who aren't paying their managers that much so the compensation is much less.


 

 

18 Dec 2018 10:36:08
The fans have been generally somber this season. No mass hysteria, no mass protests considering the slop we've been served up. Now that the bogeyman is gone to spend a few months on the Riveria before undoubtedly winning trophies at whatever club he goes to next, what's to happen with what remains at our club?

It was the right move to make, I'm not doubting that for one second, but if people think all the problems walked out of Carrington this morning then I think we're in for a rude awakening. We still have a bloated squad of pretenders and a boardroom full of unambitious money men.

The next appointment really does make or break us for the next decade. We've shown we're not a club for an elite manager. So who is? Who does everyone want as our next permanent manager? Do we do what's right for the club and break our backs to get Poch? Or is it no ambition, save a few quid on Eddie Howe?

Mumbles

1.) 18 Dec 2018 10:57:17
No idea mumbles.
Our last 3 managers have failed miserably.
1 moyes was considered by many as a good manager.
2 lvg an aging legend that had won it all.
3. The most successful manager of his generation.
None of these could hack it with our star studded squad and 700m so its hard to know who the best choice is.


2.) 18 Dec 2018 11:56:37
Blanc as DOF
Howe as manager
Keane or stam or both as assistant

Would be my choice has a blend of everything for me.


 

 

18 Dec 2018 10:26:27
Ed002. Should I potter over to the shops and get Allardyce No.1 on the back of my jersey?

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I think all Manchester United fans deserve one for at least 6 months.}


 

 

02 Dec 2018 16:01:10
Even as a Jose fan I can see his position has become completely untenable. He's pulling all the stops out now to make his exit as quick as possible. He's set himself a target of top 4 by the end of December which we have no chance of getting. The constant little digs at the owners about our transfer policy and the washing of dirty laundry in public is clear that he wants away.

We are passed the point of no return. Will Ed Woodward and the board do what's best for the club and pull the trigger now? Not a hope! This little dance is going to go until we're mathematically out of the top 4 so we can save a few bob on Jose''s payout. The club also gets to save money in January. Like they did when they pulled out of numerous transfer dealings in January in LvG's last year. They will do the same again. I wonder will the excuse be "toxic" fans yet again?

If it's a caretaker manager until the end of the season that's ok. Then find a manager who is willing to match the club's ambitions. Which is that of a club competing for Champions League football.

Mumbles

1.) 02 Dec 2018 16:18:06
Mumbles, but who in the summer? Poch? I think he will end up in Spain, Howe? Not ready for a while, Giggs? Not for me or a lot of supporters, Southgate? Most see him as a coach and not a manager, Blanc? What has he done, Zidane? I hope not, others may disagree. I personally feel that Diego Simeone would instill the agression and steel we seem to miss, he may not want to leave Spain, but why not sound him out.


2.) 02 Dec 2018 16:38:16
Simeone isn't exactly known for his beautiful free flowing football. A great manager, but one who I feel like Jose himself might be better suited for managing the underdogs where his mentality and style are more easily accepted.

We need a manager who will allow our players off the leash against the bottom half of the league at least.


3.) 02 Dec 2018 16:51:37
I honestly don't know what manager to go for. We should realistically be able to cherry pick 99% of managers but I think the very top coaches would think twice about taking us over.


4.) 02 Dec 2018 17:05:45
I really like Southgate, what he has done with England has been brilliant. He isn’t a sexy foreign name and he fell into the job but he’s created something. If he’s just a coach then so what, if he can create the right mentality and culture then that breeds confidence. I would happily take him as our next Manager,


5.) 02 Dec 2018 17:42:28
There's a great coach available in Jardim right now. His only problem was Monaco's lack of stability which is only matched by our own chairman. The club is a mess right now and the common denominator is Woodward. The players have downed tools and the manager is actively trying to get dismissed. It will take a long time to get back to the top but we should start by appointing a progressive coach who is hungry for success.

{Ed002's Note - He doesn't speak English.}


6.) 02 Dec 2018 17:48:20
Ed002 neither did Poch when he first came to England. Don't think it should rule him out, though it would be a stick to beat him with. Anyway he's just one name. There are other progressive coaches out there that, despite our chaotic things are, we should be able to attract.

{Ed002's Note - Yes he did. He spoke English but chose not to in interviews.}


7.) 02 Dec 2018 18:02:26
Well he used a translator for 1.5 years so for all intents and purposes we're splitting hairs. If you think Jardim is a non runner then that's fine. You've better knowledge than me on such things. We could also go for Lopetegui but I don't know at all about his linguistic proficiency.

{Ed002's Note - No, he ised a translator in interviews, his English was fine. Why are you being so anal over something you clearly have no idea about. It is embarrassing.}


8.) 02 Dec 2018 18:12:14
Jeez man. I think you're the one not moving past it. I said you've better knowledge on it so ease up. You do seem to want complete subserviency but, while I completely respect your knowledge, I'm not prepared to be rebuked for your own sensitivity. You decided to fixate on this rather than on the underlying question of whether being able to speak English initially should rule out a manager. Rather than continue the insults I would genuinely be interested in whether that's your opinion and why.

{Ed002's Note - You don't seem to get the entire issue. Zidane doesn't speak English and has been talking lessons. Jardim doesn't speak English to an understandable level and has already rejected one job in England because of his problems over communication. Pochettino never had an issue with the language. Ranieri spoke little English when he first arrived in 2000 and took an intensive course but was lucky that Chelsea' player liaison officer (the fat bloke you see hanging around the tunnel) is fluent in Italian. Jardim is not wanted by MU - if he becomes wanted it means that they have not got who they want. And a massive hurdle needs to be overcome before anything will happen.}


9.) 02 Dec 2018 18:18:19
By the way ed002 I'm just messaging without wanting to get into strife. I follow football and United in particular for enjoyment. I don't often comment but expected not to be called embarrassing. I'll step back from the site in future. Your knowledge is needed more than my opinion. I just think, for your own sake, that you'd be better off not looking for animosity where it doesn't exist.

{Ed002's Note - I am more than happy to post nothing on the Manchester United pages - the page has already talked your way out of a lengthy update from Milan last week - you feel free to carry on and I will not bother any longer.}


10.) 02 Dec 2018 18:22:35
Ed002, are there any managers out there in Europe doing good things under the radar? Not necessarily for United, just curious as to the next batch elite coaches are.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry - I am not going to bother with the Manchester United page for a while. It is a waste of time.}


11.) 02 Dec 2018 18:23:57
Thank you for that very interesting information. I don't pretend to be an insider and was hoping for this type of info. Think you misinterpreted my previous message: I meant that to the media and general optics we were splitting hairs (that's what I was referring to as a stick to beat him with) . Anyway thanks again.


12.) 02 Dec 2018 18:32:18
Apologies mumbles et al. Ed002 clearly has taken issue with me. Life is tough enough without worrying about walking on eggshells here. As promised my attempts to engage here will cease now but I'll look forward to ed002 updates again.

{Ed002's Note - I don't want you to cease DoRed (if that is your real name). It is very clear to me that the Manchester United page has zero interest in transfer rumours (the primary purpose of this site of old), clearly think that anything about a breakaway league is something I made up 8 years or so ago when I first started helping out the folk who run the site) and have really little grasp about what is happening at the club. So my input really doesn't help at all. It is all fantasy football stuff and let's get this world class manger in and who cares if he can communicate with the players. In the British pomp - not really my cup of tea. But don't step back because of me - if I called you a shaven-headed, lager-swilling, pot-pellied, tattooed knuckledragging oaf or something similar, I apologise.}


13.) 02 Dec 2018 18:57:40
Think you're vastly underestimating how valued you are here. I have read this page for years primarily due to yourself and ed001. Think we just got crossed wires (and I'm never too keen to have my lack of knowledge exposed ;) ) . I thought I was a straw breaking the camel's back, and wanted to take back the straw. In any case that insight and teaser about what the club are after is far more interesting than my random thoughts.

{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure that you cannot break a camel's back with a straw. Perhaps a chainsaw would help?}


 

 

 

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05 Jan 2019 03:12:14
I don't see why he'd want to. He wasn't treated too good by the fans or the players here and was used as a scapegoat for our poor performances at times. He's gone on to become a very good player, but I can't see him coming back.

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18 Dec 2018 18:26:18
United saying that we will appoint an external interim manager until the end of the season within 48 hours led me to believe that they had someone already lined up. If this isn't the case then why even mention it? As a precursor to any manager taking over that they're not permanent and don't expect any money in January or a say on which players stay or go?

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19 Oct 2018 16:06:12
Lukaku is fine striker but right now he isn't an elite striker. He misses far too many "easy" chances per game. He could become one day, but right now he isn't good enough to move to a club in a better position than United.

Ed002, I'd hazard a guess that the team he would like to eventually join would be Bayern? I couldn't see him in a Madrid or Barcelona jersey. There are a few more teams who right now are more primed to win trophies than us, but if he wants to get his move "up", he has to be scoring 35/ 40 goals a season.

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea where he would like to eventually move to. For some reason everyone is making a big issue about him answering a question in an interview. I am not aware of his looking to leave and the previous discussion of his wanting to move on from Everton to advance his career. He was never going to be allowed to rejoin Chelsea but he got his move to Manchester United and is struggling a little right now for goals but that won't last long.}


 

 

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05 Oct 2018 23:00:56
If this is true it just shows how out of touch the board are with the fans and the ethos of the club. Sack him today and no one bats an eyelid. How can they let Jose manage the team tomorrow knowing that he's gone regardless of the result. There's certain ways to do things.

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21 Jul 2018 18:42:22
So excuses for everyone else but we couldn't possibly get any better?

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20 Jan 2019 22:30:34
It's a terrible trend in football sadly and it's been going on for quite some time. It was only because Sir Alex was unsackable that we weren't accustomed to it but player power has been around a long time.

Jose likes his senior players because their mentality isn't as fragile as a younger player. I always loved seeing the inside of a dressing room when a manager is going mental at a team. I'm not sure it happens anymore? It's not to say that his way is right or wrong it's just slowly being outdated.

Jose failed the players and the players failed the manager and both failed the club.

Everything is rosie in the garden now but what happens when Lukaku isn't happy about being on the bench and his mate Pogba starts stirring crap. The dissent from the players was completely unprofessional at the end of Joses tenure.

Is Ole the man that could survive the dressing room if and when they sour? Our players have shown they're shrinking violets. We need a lot of work, is he the man that can handle it or will he be so happy he's the boss that he let's the bigger players dictate the club?

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15 Jan 2019 22:01:47
You can tell the buzz around the club is great. This page is like a ghost town lately and that's because there's nothing to moan about!

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14 Jan 2019 23:12:17
I don't think minimum expectations involve Ole winning a cup. I think people throw a cup run into the equation when looking at what Ole needs to do to get the job.

It's all about how the season plays out. If we keep winning a high percentage of games and we miss out on top 4, then he's done all he can. If we fail to get top 4 even though Arsenal and Chelsea drop points, then that's on Ole.

We have a squad that's good enough to have a go at the F. A cup, but it certainly isn't make or break for OGS.

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14 Jan 2019 00:26:07
I can't see any other alternative now then him being made permanent. If we win our next two at home (winnable games) then that's 8 on the spin.

The huge plus would be that we can start planning for next season now! Sort out DDG, Martial and Herrera's contracts and start the recruitment process now.

Waiting to see does Ole not cut the mustard is dangerous.

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13 Jan 2019 21:07:37
Ole set us up right and it paid off in the first half, but I thought it was dangerous to sit back like we did. We got away with it. Two winnable games coming up.

One reinforcement at the back and a push for top 4 is very doable.

Mumbles