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15 May 2018 10:20:26
Hi Ed002 is you are around hope you are well mate. I know you said we had interest in alex Sandro but is he now our first choice target for left back? Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I can't help with transfers any longer, sorry.}


1.) 15 May 2018 10:41:41
No problem thanks ed.


2.) 15 May 2018 12:32:14
If there is any truth in Sandro at 50 mill and the lad from Napoli as right back who seems highly rated at 44 mill -I don't pretend to know much about him -then Shaw and Darmian out as directly replaced for a net spend of 60 mill for a key part of defence with added attacking flair seems a good deal.


3.) 15 May 2018 12:52:37
would be a great pair of signings if true burrenway. I like Hysaj he looks a very good player. Only time will tell!


4.) 15 May 2018 12:25:31
Ed002 - is there any light at the end of the tunnel? When will you be back?

{Ed002's Note - Right now there is no plan to do anything involving transfers any longer.}


5.) 15 May 2018 14:46:53
Yes Park3lung, a bit of pace and flair going forward. I would then hope TFM comes into the first team squad as a back up rb to get him some real experience.


6.) 15 May 2018 17:41:54
Ed002 i am very sorry to hear that. I hope that there comes a time when this is all resolved and we have the pleasure of your wise words once more.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks, we'll see.}


7.) 15 May 2018 21:13:54
Most of us echo those thoughts Pogthedog, this site is a better place with Ed002 on board.


8.) 15 May 2018 22:41:22
Ultimately United will but whoever they buy.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds painful and unnecessary :)


 

 

10 Apr 2018 16:18:06
Hi Ed are the rumours of martial looking to leave in the summer true? Be bitterly disappointed if they are.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - i suspect he is angling for some more game time myself park..


1.) 10 Apr 2018 16:31:51
Smacks of short termism Ed if you ask me. I know he is not the finished article but if Jose really is looking to replace him with a 29 year old injury prone Gareth bale then I will be pretty livid.

Can’t blame martial he has 21 goals this season in all comps second only to Lukaku and played far less games. This has a feeling of De Bruyne if you ask me. Just my humble opinion 😂. Would much rather he was sent on loan.

{Ed025's Note - a loan to everton sounds good to me park..i love the guy..


2.) 10 Apr 2018 17:17:21
I’m fairly certain marital has 12 goals. he's a fantastic talent but doesn’t perform consistently enough, and if he doesn’t want to be here then get rid. If he does want to stay, he needs to get his head down and work hard.


3.) 10 Apr 2018 17:58:57
My mistake caolan was meant to say goals and assist. All together it would be 19 not 21. Agreed mate consistency is a problem but getting rid would be a huge mistake. If he wants regular play time a loan is better.


4.) 10 Apr 2018 16:46:50
Would be a great move ed he would get regular game time and in the premier league. But only if big sam is not managing him. A fonesca or Marco silva would do nicely! Fingers crossed he isn’t leaving but I’m not optimistic unfortunately. Thanks for your input as always ed much appreciated.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..


5.) 10 Apr 2018 18:25:30
This will be our kdb moment and given who the coach is not a surprise.


6.) 10 Apr 2018 18:40:48
Need to remember he is still young and developing. To maximise his potential he needs to play. I can’t blame the lad for looking elsewhere. The club took his number off him after he was trying to build a brand, we then bought Sanchez and moved him from his favoured position to the right. We then did not give him a run of games to get use to being on the right and then dropped him.

It does not demonstrate that he is valued. More gives the impression of you are here to make up the numbers and will be moved around or messed around as soon as we sign somebody else. I would be gutted if he left.


7.) 10 Apr 2018 19:29:29
I wanted him loaned out this season. He needs to play to improve and the scope for improvement is huge.


8.) 10 Apr 2018 19:38:01
Don’t be agree or get the love in with Martial. He’s a 1 in 5 player, and he needs to work hard every single day he’s here to prove he’s worth his chance.

We vastly overpaid for him in desperation and has been ok, but Rashford stays and plays more then fine by me.

Of course he could be awesome and fingers crossed it’s more media nonsense and he becomes a world class talent for us but he’s a striker not a winger.


9.) 10 Apr 2018 19:56:07
Caolan this is utd player's minutes per goals or assists ratio.

Lukaku- 110 mins per goal/ assist
Rashford- 111 mins
Lingard- 108 mins
Martial- 103 mins

Looks more like we just don't give him a consistent enough run to actually let him perform well consistently. He was utd player of the month 3 times this season until the 500k man arrived then mourinho did what he does best with young attacking players.


10.) 10 Apr 2018 20:50:03
Is it a case of the manager wants rid or the player wants to leave. Quite a lot quick to blame Jose an cite de bruyne but I think eds said that wasn't down to Jose.


11.) 10 Apr 2018 22:28:15
Sanchez is ten times the player Martial is right now. Blaming Jose for his sulky nature and lethargic style is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong he has the potential. But he needs to work hard to get there. Where is he realistically going to be allowed to move to that are equal to Utd and actually start matches? Modern footballers wind me up no end.


12.) 11 Apr 2018 00:26:18
Martial reminds me of Nani. Extremely talented but not consistent and extremely frustrating. Not sure if it's an attitude or lifestyle problem but he needs to change.


13.) 11 Apr 2018 00:49:21
Csm, I understand those stats, but they can be misleading eg the opening day he scored and assisted with 10 minutes left, but it shows the talent. Unfortunately, He’s not progressed in 3 years, his first season here was without doubt his best. He needs to show more and just keep an eye on Tahith Chong, works his backside off and looks a top talent. I don’t think martial has the desire, so if he wants to leave, let’s get a good price and move on.


14.) 11 Apr 2018 01:12:38
Don't disagree Eric, but that 10 times the player has also been ten times the tripe and not been benched, if martial had 1 game like Sanchez had a dozen he won't be starting for most of the 12 or so Sanchez has played for us.


15.) 11 Apr 2018 05:35:26
Caolan I don't have a problem with selling martial if the replacement is someone like a dybala but mourinho will replace martial with the Croatian Ashley young because he tracks back better. 2-3 years down the line when martial would be tearing it up in a team that actually is allowed to attack we will be in a Wayne Rooney situation with 2 30+ pace merchants who would have lost their pace and will be on high wages and whichever poor sap replaces mourinho will be left dealing with the issue and again we will be in a transition period.


16.) 11 Apr 2018 09:50:23
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at the moment in the wingers position.

He will do the job Mourinho requires him to do.


17.) 11 Apr 2018 10:09:34
MARTIAL's problem is Martial. Talent but gives the impression he only does what he thinks is enough which isn't always enough. If a deal to be had is better then let him go but not cheaply.


18.) 11 Apr 2018 10:43:51
What exactly is this job Singh.

Martial pl stats- 1347 mins 9 goals 5 assists

Croatian Ashley Young serie a stats- 2686 mins 9 goals 5 assists.

Sqauwka do a defense score in their comparison matrix it reads

Croatian Ashley Young- -23.9
Anthony Martial- 60.82

Doesn't seem like a defensive stalwart by looking at those stats. Only thing Croatian Ashley Young is better at than martial is his crossing and having watched him more than a few times, it ain't something to write home about. If we sign an actually decent lb we will get a crosser most likely better than the Croatian Ashley Young.


19.) 11 Apr 2018 11:27:55
Perisic is a decent player nothing more .
Done ok at inter last couple of years nothing more . will be 30 next season.


20.) 11 Apr 2018 11:41:23
Perisic is a decent player, who has had a couple of seasons of good form. But as CSM points out he is performing at currently around the same level as Martial. However, Martial has potential to get better whereas, Perisic will only decline.

However, Perisic plays predominantly on the left, Martial supposedly isn't happy because Sanchez has taken his place. Rashford supposedly isn't happy because he isn't starting as many games as he would like and he too has predominantly played on the left for Jose.

So we have three players two of which are talented young players who all predominantly play on the left.

Lingard has stepped up this year, and Mata remains consistent, we then have Angel Gomes and Chong in particular knocking on the door.

So why do people think that if Martial leaves he will be replaced?

If he leaves we probably won't see anyone come in to replace him. Sanchez has already done that.

Jose wants at least one full back, preferably two. A centre back despite already signing two and having a super talented Tuanzebe coming through. And at least one if not two midfielders again having already signing two, and having McTominay, TFM and Andreas Pereira trying to break through.

The forward positions are bottom of the list and we will only likely see another forward join after 4-5 other players who are higher priority. Which means we won't be signing one.

So by all means wish a super talented young player away, but don't cry when he isn't replaced and he goes on to become a star else where. Just like Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah did after Mourinho wasted their potential.


21.) 11 Apr 2018 11:58:14
Martial has been good this season when he's played. Has electric pace and the type of dribbling where it feels like the ball is glued to his foot. How many players in the world can you say that about? Add to that ice cool finishing and solid link up play. He is being wasted and will come back to haunt Mourinho like De Bruyne and Salah. Play Sanchez on the right (where he got his best goal and assist stats. Where he is comfortable playing) and Martial on the left of Lukaku. Serious skill, speed and finishing ability in that front 3 with Pogba supporting from deep.

But of course none of this is going to happen. Sanchez will play on the left to stunt Rashford and shuttle Martial out the door, while Martial will come back to piss all over us one day. Mourinho logic.


22.) 11 Apr 2018 13:11:53
Sorry but csm I don’t get why you’re comparing him to Persic, a completely different style of player? Once again thought it’s a minpulation of stats, whilst comparing two completely different players. I could find you a stat that says Milner was more creative than Scholes. I understand a lot of fans on here love martial, heck I’m a big fan of his, due to his talent but he’s not progressing on. Let me ask you this, would he have dug in on Saturday like Sanchez and tried to eat us big in the game. I don’t see the attitude from him that will make him a really top class player, that I know he can become. As snappy says there are young hungry players coming through the academy, so maybe let’s promote one and stick to the club values? Rather than spending our time on a player who has rejected a new 5 year deal (which shows the club value him) . It’s that reason why I’m not opposed to selling him.


23.) 11 Apr 2018 13:45:56
Martial isn't going yo get chances at United until Mourinho is here. Like Shappy has said Sanchez has already replaced him and if Mourinho signs another attacker it will limit his progress further.

He could be a superstar in the making but it just isn't going to happen at United unless something drastically changes.

Hr has had enough chances to prove himself at lw but hasn't really done much, stats are stats and it makes Ban Dost look like world class.


24.) 11 Apr 2018 14:01:30
So people want to sell martial?
Lot of people trying to justify the sale .
I do wonder if people would be wanting to get rid rid of him if it wasn't for the fact it's in the press .

Same goes for perisic being twice the player martial is . I doubt that would be the case if he wasn't linked to us last summer .
If martial signs a new contract has the club and Jose made a massive then reading above .
In fact are they in the wrong offering him a new contract?


25.) 11 Apr 2018 14:06:15
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at lw. Have you not seen how many times Martial loses the ball, makes wrong decisions and just stands their confused or even sulks when things don't go his way at lw.

Martial has loads of potential but not at lw. He will never be a winger unless he changes things draatically.


26.) 11 Apr 2018 14:11:48
Perisic is a lw isn't he caolan, milner scholes comparison is stupid but lw is lw styles might be different but end result expected is the same, it isn't mf where a pogba has different job to a matic. Your job as a lw is scoring or creating goals. Ronaldo and Beckham were different players with different styles but we expected both to either create or score goals. If we sign a lw we will expect him to score and create won't we?

You ask about the city, you seem to forget that it was martial who assisted lukaku in the Chelsea game for the equalizer and scored the late winner against spurs.

Also it's funny you complained about martial being inconsistent yet bring up Sanchez in comparison a player who has been nothing but inconsistent for us.


27.) 11 Apr 2018 14:16:38
Do you have some substance to back up this twice the player stance Singh because there isn't any metric out there that proves perisic is better than martial let alone being twice the player.


28.) 11 Apr 2018 14:41:39
CSM, I didn’t say Sanchez has been consistent did I? Merely pointing to the battling performance at the weekend I don’t think martial may be capable off, and he hasn’t shown that yet. Also shall we go back to that Chelsea game? He played a lovely pass to lukaku for the goal, and then was god awful after that.
And no I don’t agree that you can compare persic to martial, as all you’ve done is take statistics and use them as gospel. Don’t understand how you can say that’s a fair comparison but Milner to Scholes isn’t? Both play in the midfield don’t they?
Also if you read my post you’ll see that I don’t dislike martial, but he’s not been consistent enough, or hell even progressed. If he misses a chance his head drops, eg the Newcastle away game. He has all the talent in the world but I don’t know if he has the desire to achieve it. His movement off the ball at times is non existent, he would reluctantly go backwards, is he capable of a high press? The talent is there. He needs to work hard and fulfill that potential. I’m order to achieve that if he feels the need to leave then good luck to him. It’s the same with pogba.


29.) 11 Apr 2018 14:45:16
The main complaints about Martial is he doesn't track back, he is inconsistent, he loses the ball often and he should when things don't go his way.

Obviously the people voicing these complaints either haven't been United fans that long or they have very short memories.

All of the above could have been leveled at a 21 year old Ronaldo.

Sulks if he doesn't get the ball, inconsistent, doesn't track back, loses the ball.

Very short memories.


30.) 11 Apr 2018 14:51:53
Shappy, my criticism isn’t entirely based around work rate, but is he putting in the work Ronaldo did? We don’t know. Also the reason I’m leaning towards selling him is that the various reports state he rejected a contract. If that’s the case and he doesn’t want to be at united anymore then sell him.


31.) 11 Apr 2018 14:54:41
If Ed 2s about can you clarify it was de Bruyne who wanted to leave Chelsea. Also same with Lukaku and Salah. Apologies I know you've this before but I think it just needs to be clarified.

{Ed002's Note - De Bruyne and Salah both wanted to leave for specific reasons and Chelsea did not stand in their way. Lukaku did something which meant he would never return to Chelsea from loan and would never play for the club again.}


32.) 11 Apr 2018 15:15:03
Caolan
So if it is true that he has been offered a contract are the club and Jose wrong to offer him one based on the negatives above .

Very talent young player and people want to sell him?
I hope he stays and relises his potential at United.
Got to wonder what some on here would of thought of a young Ronaldo.
Singh
Have you actually watched perisic, he really isn't twice the player martial is .


33.) 11 Apr 2018 15:51:44
Caolan again remind me what Sanchez did other than the 2 assists before or after? He is 22 if you expect a 22 year old attacker in a jose mourinho team to be consistently brilliant either you are naive or have never watched football.

Most reports suggest that he isn't happy with the playing time which has been compounded by the signing of Sanchez, he isn't wrong in that is he. He rightfully started on the bench rather than first 11 this season because of his last season performances but then performed well enough to displace rashford and was one of our better attacking players until Sanchez arrived. Would you sign a contract if you get benched for multiple games after a single bad games but are forced to change position because a new player comes in who then proceeds to set new standards on how bad you can play but this player never gets benched.

About perisic martial comparison, you keep bringing milner and scholes in the conversation when they don't play the same position or are expected to do the same job yet ignore my Ronaldo and Beckham comparison because it doesn't suit your point. There is no real stat or fact or anything that can firmly say that perisic is better than martial so you come up with stuff like goals and assists aren't the only things we rate wingers on, fact is that is the biggest point on which people rate attackers on.

You don't want Sanchez or griezmann ahead of martial or rashford because they run more or track back but because they are better going forward and the Croatian Ashley Young ain't.


34.) 11 Apr 2018 16:01:24
Media spouts nonsense and the page goes into meltdown blaming Jose for this and that. Blah blah noise. Read what ed2 says above. None of which had anything to do with Mourinho. It’s very tiresome reacting from day to day on this stuff.

Jose hates youngsters so much he didn’t go to school and won’t talk to his children until they’re 25.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true Jose loves kids, on toast with a bit of cheese, but he couldn't eat a whole one...}


35.) 11 Apr 2018 16:31:49
Eric, I believe both Salah and De Bruyne left Chelsea for more playing time, in fact for any playing time as he wouldn't pick them.

Are you suggesting that Jose doesn't get to pick the team?

Jose may not have activity tried to sell them, but he didn't give them a chance. So they had to leave to further their careers.

No one is saying Martial, Shaw and Rashford want to leave United because they have it in Manchester, not is anyone saying they are being forced out by Jose. Merely Jose doesn't trust young players, he doesn't progress them as he doesn't create an environment for them to flourish. He would rather sign older players because Jose doesn't think about next season or the future of the club he is working for, he only cares about this season and how many trophies he can win for Jose Mourinho.

That is why he is a short term manager, and unless he wins the title next season he won't be our manager by the start of the 2019/ 20 season.

{Ed002's Note - No it was not really the situation with either player, it was more complex than that.}


36.) 11 Apr 2018 16:38:04
So where have I put down persic is better mate? And I’ll comment on Ronaldo and Beckham if you want. Two completely contrasting styles of players yet again. Only here for a bit of a debate and to give my opinion. No need to call me naive or question whether I’ve watched a game. At the end of the day you have your opinion, and I may not agree with it but it’s not me having a go, because we all have an opinion and no one is right or wrong. Last I’m going to say on the matter.


37.) 11 Apr 2018 16:55:31
And sorry I just seen the question about whether the club should offer him a new deal from Jred.
I’m reaponse mate, if the club feel he can fulfill his potential and he’s willing to work hard to do so then off course like I said earlier. There’s no doubting his potential at all the main reason I’m saying about getting rid of him is the fact that he’s apparently turned this deal down. My point is I don’t think he’d be as missed as people say, but it’s only my opinion.
At the end of the day I’d love him to stay here and become a legend, score 200+ goals. However, at this moment I don’t see that happening. I hope I’m wrong, but if he wants out, let him out. Last I’m saying.


38.) 11 Apr 2018 17:08:25
Didn't mean to cause offense caolan, sorry if i have. But it is annoying when people expect consistency from 22 year old attackers especially given our attacking play.


39.) 11 Apr 2018 17:10:59
When Ronaldo was here it was a differenr situation . We had fergie as our manager, we didn't have to compete with 4 other possible premier league challengers . We had a proper defence had a very good midfield had Tevez and Rooney and vannisteroy so we couldve carried a 21 year old inconsistent Ronaldo and even then he Ronaldo showed more skill then Martial has in his time here.


40.) 11 Apr 2018 17:20:35
No worries CSM. I’m not expecting Ronaldo/ Messi performances but I get frustrated with him because of how much ability he has, and I’m sure there are many who want to see a hell of a lot more from him because we know that potential.


41.) 11 Apr 2018 18:00:32
Singh
After reading all that then you want to sell him?


42.) 11 Apr 2018 18:28:37
Shappy he can only play 11 players at a time. Jose thinks sanchez is better than martial. I agree with him. He also thinks at this time that rashford is a better option than martial. I agree with him. He thinks lukaku is a better option i agree with him.
Its just The managers preference.
Lampard said last night that he never saw the potential in salah nobody at chelsea did and his leaving had nothing to do with jose personally nor did kdb leaving.


43.) 11 Apr 2018 19:03:49
Looks like I’m massively in the minority but if it were a simple case (which it isn’t of course, with £/ age factors) of Martial or Bale, I’d have Bale every time. So he’s much older, past his prime and with a questionable injury history. But he’s still got plenty left in the tank. Martial was a panic buy worth nothing like what was paid and has never been as good as his debut against Liverpool. Next Henry? Give me a break, he’s not on the same planet.


44.) 11 Apr 2018 19:14:35
Again Jred its about if Martial can be happy being part of the squad then he should stay but if he wants more game and if Mourinho isn't going to give him assurance then for his own career he should move elsewhere to get the game time he badly desires.

I would keep him if i was in charge at the club but i am not and i am here debating with you like many others.

You can't keep everyone happy and if Martial really wants to fight for his place and like mentioned in the media the contract is on the table foe him then he should sign it and fight for his player like everyone else.

If i was him personally i would make a move and get the game time i so badly want.

There are so many good clubs around the world he can make a name wirh foe himself.


45.) 11 Apr 2018 21:19:51
Singh
You seem to of given a lot of reasons to get rid of him.


46.) 11 Apr 2018 22:48:26
I don’t really post on here much just like reading everyone’s opinions but this thread is ridiculous.

Also I don’t know if you guys played football or if you did to what standard but if I was either martial or Rashford I’d be looking to the likes of Sanchez and Lukaku etc and saying help me. Looking at these players day in day out should show you what you need to improve yourself.

Martial has bags of potential BUT does he want to fight for his place and prove that he deserves to stay there? Does he try and adapt his game to fit playing right wing? Is he trying to develop himself after training etc or does he go home straight away? We don’t know the answers to these questions so therefore we don’t have that much knowledge on the matter.

I also seem to remember an attacking midfielder that had was better than Wayne Rooney when we signed him, he had bags of potential to. that was ANDERSON. Great potential turned into an average player.

Talent doesn’t automatically mean your going to be a star, you still have to work and dedicate yourself to the game so that you can maximise your potential e.g Ronaldo.

I don’t want him to leave but the club may see him strolling around in training not over bothered, bad attitude etc, not willing to learn blah blah blah. They are in the best possible position to make a decision on getting rid of him.


47.) 11 Apr 2018 23:15:15
Gazza91 top post that.


48.) 12 Apr 2018 08:29:54
Gaza
If that was the case why would they offer him a new contract.


49.) 12 Apr 2018 16:21:11
So if the player wants to leave should we keep him jred?


50.) 12 Apr 2018 18:18:11
Ken
If he wants to leave and won't sign a contract then it would be best to let him go .

But all this we should sell because of x y z are a bit silly imo .
If there were not rumours in the papers very few would want to sell a very talented young player .


51.) 12 Apr 2018 23:09:22
I wanted him to go on loan this season i feared that this would be The situation if he didn't. He actually got more game time than i thought he would be given.
He does have potential and now we are 1 year further down the line and we are none the wiser and he is no closer to fulfilling that potential if he had a hreat season in italy or spain then at least he would be coming back proven and confident and be a more rounded and experienced player. But now starved of meaningful gametime we have forced him into a corner.
But to be fair he hasn't forced himself into the team either.
Hindsight is 20/ 20 vision i suppose.


52.) 13 Apr 2018 10:13:03
He has been offered a 5 year contract which talks you a lot .
40 appearances so far in the EPL only lukaku has scored more
If he had went out on loan would he of gained more than that?
Who would of taking up the slack of him not being here?
How would his situation now of been any different, lukaku Sanchez etc would still be at the club he would still want reasurrences over his playing time .
New contract with a lot of other options as he is a top player, big decision .


 

 

28 Apr 2017 16:28:10
So gutted if the reports are true that fosu mensah has dislocated his shoulder. Was so looking forward to him getting some game time in midfield as I believe an eventual combination of him Herrera and pogba would compliment eachother very well.

The injuries really have taken its toll and it time for the players to stand up and be counted for. Rooney apparently could play in midfield and many will disagree but I think he could have provided a link from midfield to attack that we were missing yesterday. Not the same player but he can still do a job. Big game Sunday let's get the 3 points on the board and put pressure on city and the scousers.

Lots to play for and could end up being a special end if the seasons. Onwards and upwards.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - mensah is not the biggest loss though park, better him out than one of the bigger names as im sure we wont see the best of him until next season at the earliest mate..


1.) 29 Apr 2017 14:40:00
We need to remain calm about the youth players. I'm a huge fan of Rashfords potential but he isn't in the top 50 scorers in the 'league' this season and Mensah has done nothing yet to even be discussed as the main defensive midfielder in a team that wants to win the CL. It's almost bordering on hysteria. Both their positions need serious strengthening in the summer.


 

 

 

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30 Sep 2018 13:45:55
Ed004 if you are about, how would you describe this shambles that we are in? Would you get rid of Jose now and who would you like to replace him?

Park3lung

{Ed004's Note - Have been busy starting a new job the past few weeks so not got to comment as much. However, the game at the weekend was the turning point for me. Everyone knows I've supported and defended Jose his whole tenure here but the weekend confirmed to me that hes lost the dressing room. I feel its time to cut our losses and move on. Im not sure Zidane is the long term solution but he would be a good option for the remainder of the season. Worst case scenario is we lose Pogba in January, players such as Martial and Shaw refuse to extend their contract, we miss out on top 4 and end up sacking Jose anyways. It feels like it is the beginning of the end for him.}


1.) 01 Oct 2018 19:50:11
Ed004 you speak my mind 100%. I don’t want to call for the sacking of a Utd manager but every day that now passes is delaying the inevitable.

{Ed004's Note - I dont want to see him sacked but I just think its inevitable now}


2.) 01 Oct 2018 20:29:04
How’s the new job been ed? I agree completely. This weekend was also the turning point for me. Clearly he cannot get a tune out of these players so o don’t think there is any point persisting with him. Of course financially it will take a huge sum to get rid of him. But I can only see it getting worse from here on. Interesting to see how we play tomorrow. If the players show a lack of urgency again, I think a change must be imminent. However, some of these players do not deserve to wear the United shirt. Their attitude is atrocious and I won’t lose any sleep to see the back of majority of them.

{Ed004's Note - There are a lot of serious issues at the club right now. The manager and quite a few players all look unhappy to be here. Really not a good situation to be in. Zidane seems to be very popular with his players so Im hoping he can come in and help ease the tension in the club}


3.) 01 Oct 2018 22:32:51
Agree with Park 100% some players are just cold chest players, they don't deserve to wear a MU shirt. the only ones that seem to be bother with the situation is us (the fans) .

I agree with Alex Ferguson when he said that a good attack wins you games but a good defense wins you competitions, but I really don't believe in Mou´s defensive football at all.

A team as Manchester United should never just give up half of the court and wait for the other team to attack, a solid defense can be played simultaneously with an attacking set mind, and high press.

For example let's say any team plays against Real Madrid, how would any of you prepare to stop, let’s say Marcelo (who is probably one of the best left backs in modern football)? .

You can try to stop him with another left back and even you can sacrifice a left midfield and set him just to defend but eventually he is going to pass through because of his speed or would be available to send a good cross and create a difficult situation.

For me the best way to stop a player like him is to give him an attacking player to worried about, for example play Rashford or Martial; any player with good speed that can worried him and make him want to stay in his toes and be more defensive than he normally is. Attack to defend.

As I said you need a solid defense for this to work but I really think our defense is not that bad, first we have the best goalkeeper in the world (at least for me), Bailey is our best defender and should be on the starting eleven, and all you need to do is work on his best partner between Lindelof, Rojo or Smalling (jones should be out of the club years ago), on the left back Shaw is doing a good job and young is a good back up (he should not be allowed never to play again as a right back, last match was a night to forget for him) and we also have exciting young players for the position such as Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, or Demetri Mitchell, on the right back Valencia is our best players but Dalot is looking great, the only issue is that he is to young and I don't think he should play all the games because it would affect his development.

On the midfield there are many options to defend properly but you can pretty much coupe with all most all of the premier league teams with a two defensive and two attacking midfield players, i think that Herrera is perfect for the role as is Matic, and we also have good young players for the role such as McTominay.

Last season we had the second best defense of the league, only behind Manchester City a team that defends itself by attacking, a team that doesn’t have better playeres to defend than as. I'm not saying we should play Peps Tiki taka but there are other types of attacking football that coupe with MU style and most important with our players.

We have a lot of speedy young (stamina) attacking players that with a little training can do some high press, try to force an error, a bad pass or a divided long ball for our defense to take control again, and if the team need´s them, they can fly back to help the defense.

I know this sound allot like FIFA talk but we should be playing better with the player we have. But if a player doesn't want to be on the team there is no sense on having them, no one is bigger than MU, no player, no manager, no one.

I know some fans want for as to lose tomorrow, and hope that that is the last drop that would sack MOU, but I just can never wish for MU to lose. So please let’s all back united tomorrow and hope for a good result.

GGMU!


4.) 02 Oct 2018 09:44:23
I am hoping that the players turn up tonite in the CL. Looking / comparing JM's final games at chelsea saw a way too similar pattern of attitude and performance but before he got sacked in December, the cl performances/ results showed a differnt tale to the league.
i think the nail in the coffin could be a bad result against newcastle who are at best a championship side impersonating a premier league team.


 

 

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27 Sep 2018 14:05:00
Banter please Ed’s if possible. I have a question for Yaz. I see you are clearly in the pogba camp in terms of who you believe is in the right and who should be the one to remain at Manchester United, over Jose. But can you honestly, hand on heart, say that pogba:

(A) has done anything or played with any sort of consistency to JUSTIFY the huge price tags we paid for him?
(B) has he acted in a way which is expected of a leader or captain of Manchester United football club.

Before you go on about pogba’s potential, it is plain to see to all how naturally gifted he is. But when has he actually consistently translated that on the pitch? He has started this season well to be fair, but he only shows up when HE feels like it. It is unacceptable and he should be taking games by the scruff of the neck and dictating them. He drifts in and out and messes around with the ball i'm areas he shouldn’t be doing so. Worst of all is his awareness of his positional duties and his work rate/ application. He should be the driving force and the leader of the team. Yet he cannot even undergo his duties properly.

I am not saying Jose has been in the right in this situation. It is well known his mouth runs him into trouble nearly everywhere he has been. But when the manager extends and olive branch to you and picks you as captain, it is extremely disrespectful and outrageous to come out with some of the comments he has done. It’s stoking the fire that just does not need to be done. Why cause the unnecessary unrest? He is disrespectful to the club, manager, his own teammates but worst of all, the fans. He thinks he is bigger than the club. How can you support this? We are Manchester United FC, not Pogba FC. This new age of fans where the support a player over the club is embarrassing. Where are the days where we supported the team and not individuals?

For the record, I am Jose out aswell. Not because I don’t rate him, but because I believe he has taken us as far as he can. He is a winner and a fantastic manager, IF he has the team and players he wants. He is just not the right fit for us. But both him and pogba should be shown the door because this circus they have created is not what I want to see at our great club. We have been mismanaged and unprepared since the day sir alex left. The next appointment needs it be very cleverly thought through, with a director of football being top of the list too.

Park3lung

1.) 27 Sep 2018 14:17:36
Totally agree park.


2.) 27 Sep 2018 14:31:00
Eddie Howe should be our next manager. We have missed all these new young managers, i think right now he is the one who could build for the future. Give him time, at least 2,3 years and i'm pretty sure we will be on top or pretty close. I just don't want to see old managers anymore, their tactics don't work anymore.


3.) 27 Sep 2018 15:07:29
Would much rather go for Nagelsmann, far better than Howe, no comparison. Billionare backed Bournemouth is what's making Howe even look half decent.


4.) 27 Sep 2018 15:08:07
Reman I am actually a big of Howe. Bournemouth play some great football and create a hatful of chances. My issue always with his side is that they concede far too many goals. Defensively they are so suspect. Another worry would be can he handle the big egos. That is almost half the problem at the moment. Perhaps an experienced director of football would be the way forward with a Howe type of appointment. I am still leaning towards Poch, Jardim and I really like Fonesca of Shakhtar, he has done some great things there. I think it will be Zidane. Not sure how he will fare but I imagine the football will be much more entertaining. Poch would be perfect. The brand of football is brilliant and his teams always work very hard. A little doubt over his trophy credentials but he could do some great things with some of our players.


5.) 27 Sep 2018 16:09:23
Was Ferguson a big success when he signed? I mean i understand he had just won an european cup but he wasnt that big but as soon as he got the job, he laid the foundations of what he wanted to accomplish. that's why i want a young manager because i know in the not to distant future we will have a plan, right now i don't even know what these clowns do at training. I think howe will do very good but any other hungry young manager who plays footy the right way is fine with me.


6.) 27 Sep 2018 16:16:58
Really good OP park, can't fault that at all.


7.) 27 Sep 2018 18:14:32
Reman
Was Ferguson a big success when he signed; but he wasn’t that big. You are seriously asking that? I think you need to check your history, he broke the old firm in Scotland. He was vastly above where Howe is. The club can not afford to take huge risks with what might be a nice idea.


8.) 27 Sep 2018 18:57:51
Out of curiosity, how do you think Cantona would have fared under Mourinho?


9.) 27 Sep 2018 19:42:12
Beat me too it Redman. If you remember Spurs and Barcelona were in for Young Alex in 1985-6.😆😆.


10.) 27 Sep 2018 19:54:07
i just felt last season united wanted to erase Mino Raiola. his clients moved on or changed agents. something has obviously happened.


11.) 27 Sep 2018 19:58:03
Cantona would have fared well, very similar mentality and character to Zlatan.


12.) 27 Sep 2018 22:01:35
Park it's very difficult to blame everything on pogba when more then half of the team including mou's own singings aren't pulling any trees.

Mou has spent a lot of money and the club backed him from fulback defence midfield winger to striker that's almost a full team

Think would be a huge mistake letting any of your big players leave before Jose. As we've seen in the past.


13.) 27 Sep 2018 22:21:42
To reply to the original post by Park. Pogba orchestrated most of the chances in the first part of last season, then was injured and came back fine before picking up a red and being dropped by Mourinho following that. Likewise, he's been the main creator so far this season, scoring and assisting and at least attempting to create something during games, but it looks hard to do with static players who are well marked.

Statistically, Pogba was the best midfielder in the PL last season, it didn't come across in his style, but he passed a lot, created chances and even scored some goals. In terms of leader, just looked how he pushed us on against City in the second half last season and if reports are true, he fired up the dressing room and went against Mourinho's instructions, which were probably to bring on Fellaini and lob the ball up to him in the hope that something would come off.

I see a lot of people getting upset about Pogba's online persona, I don't know much about it to be fair as I don't follow celebs on social media. But that to me is irrelevant on the pitch, and on the pitch, he isn't taking selfies, but creating more chances and orchestrating more play than any of our other players. Sure, Shaw has been great so far and without De Gea we'd be screwed, but someone needs to create something, and Pogba has been doing so, problem is he's the only one doing so. Lukaku is a great finisher and works hard, but he doesn't create. Rashford, Lingard and Sanchez just constantly give the ball away and are too predictable. Martial doesn't get enough time. Fred looks promising but leaves us vulnerable behind.

Sure Pogba made a mistake against Wolves, but either player does now and then, even the mighty De Gea. Thing is we should be able to score more than one goal in case someone (likely so) does mess up at the back. Pogba's cry for attacking football seems in line with what most want, but he did it behind his manager's back, so it becomes wrong. I for one am glad someone has to balls to speak out.


14.) 27 Sep 2018 22:59:24
Park, I'm not in Pogba's camp.

I just hate the fact that many people who attack him do so because of his price, wages and social media "antics".

I don't want any player to be sold, I want Mourinho changed.

He hasn't been able to get the best out of ANY player.


Why is Martial not performing? Why does he play so well but is benched for a month?


Why is Sanchez so bad? Can a player just lose it overnight?


Why is Lukaku shockingly bad? Must we play to his feet when he prefers to be sent through or crossed at? How many times do we cross to him in a game?

Why has Herrera regressed?


What happened to Matic?


Lingard has suddenly turned poor.


Valencia - I don't even want to go there.


Bailly and Lindelof dealt with for errors. Why aren't they given a chance to grow, to learn to build understanding?


If Mourinho had his way, Luke Shaw would have mentally broken down or sold well before now.


But of course you guys don't see all these.


Fellaini held us to ransom (no disrespect intended because he's a fighter though not a first team quality) but his contract was renewed.


People forget Pogba is not only an athlete but also a poster boy for the club. That's part of the reason why the club brought him back and also support his media "shenanigans".


Funny thing is Pogba will go to another team and blow like the Pogba we want before you guys open your eyes and see that when a coach doesn't base a team to his players' abilities then it'll be doom.


As a coach you can't say I must use this formation or tactics the players must adjust.
No!

You blend the ability of the players with your formation and tactics.

Why does Mourinho keep a grudge and never let's go or forgive?

There are a lot of things but I'll stop at this point.


15.) 27 Sep 2018 23:33:41
Good post yaz.


16.) 27 Sep 2018 23:48:53
Yaz I don’t disagree that mourinho is the problem here. I think we need a change of manager. But if you really think pogba will suddenly become the player we all expect with a new manager you are wrong. Yes he has all the footballing ability in the world. But he is so inconsistent it’s infuriating. He is solely responsible for his form and he has to take responsibility. We most probably will see pogba shine in Barca. But the same problems will always follow him wherever he goes. I have no issues with what he does on social media or his haircuts. By all accounts he doesn’t seem like a bad guy. But the way he has conducted himself has been thoroughly unprofessional and is causing massive unrest for everyone in the club. Same goes for Jose. Get rid of both and let’s start again, with player and manager that want to fight for that badge on their chest.


17.) 28 Sep 2018 06:03:55
‘Statisrically Pogba was the best midfielder on the PL last year’. I guess that depends on how you define midfielder. I like my my midfielders to drive the team forward, to play with energy and passion, to dominate games. I really don’t remember Pogba doing that.


18.) 28 Sep 2018 09:00:06
Spot on Tony.


19.) 28 Sep 2018 21:22:13
AJH, I was going of the stats on whoscored, he was ranked 9th best player in the league last season, with Aguero, De Bruyne, Salah, Hazard, Have, D. Silva, Sterling, L. Sané above him, all of which are either forwards or wide players. Fernandinho round the top 10 off.

Pogba's stats, 6 goals, 10 assists, 85.3 pass precision, 2.8 shots per game, 1.9 aerials won, 4 MoM, average rating of 7.48.

Sure there's more to that in a game, but they are not bad stats, and Mourinho loves his stats, as they seem to prove everything.

Current campaign, he stands at 4 goals, 2 assists, roughly around 83.3% passing, 2 aerial wins per game, 2 MoM, 7.36 average rating. So similar stats as it stands.


 

 

25 Sep 2018 22:17:18
Always been a fan of jose’s But I think tonight has shown he cannot get a tune out of these players. He has taken us as far as he can unfortunately. We need to make a change fast before our season completely slips away. Not sure who can do a job but I’m sure zidane would get these boys playing and looking like they enjoy their football. I want Jose to succeed so badly but sometimes in life you have to admit it just isn’t meant to be.

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1.) 25 Sep 2018 22:23:39
Let's look at the positives park. We can now concentrate on winning the triple.


 

 

21 Sep 2018 00:29:51
What a difference a few weeks and a run of wins makes for the fans, players and manager alike. I will be honest I thought Jose was staring down the barrel after the spurs defeat. It had the makings for a really toxic and turbulent few months where it seemed that Jose would burn every bride he has at the club and the players completely turn on him. But credit to him and the players because they have responded in a very professional and strong manner to ride out the media storm that has been nothing short of comical and disgraceful at times. The agenda is strong at the moment and the most important thing is that we all stick together, United, with an is against them mentality that we haven’t seen since the sir alex days.

I would like to touch on the positives I have seen so far this season. The most exciting and surprising one has got to be the form of Luke shaw. I am very surprised at how well he has played this season. He has offered us a great option on the left and seems to be improving and gaining more confidence with every passing game. I will admit I was a shaw out individual in the summer. I have always Been a fan and knew there was a very talented player in there somewhere, but never though we would see it. Credit to both the manager and the player and long may it continue. I really liked the look of Dalot as well. Strong, tall, powerful and has a cross on him. Hallelujah to that! I think we will see him displacing Valencia by the end of the season. Fellaini deserves a shout out too as well as pogba. I may be in the minority but I think Sanchez has looked much sharper and effective this season. Not at peak Sanchez, but making some great runs and creating a lot of chances, the most I think out of all our players. Needs to built that understanding better with Lukaku and pogba. But definite improvement for me.

Secondly, the team spirit seems very good in the squad. Despite what the media want to insinuate, there is a great camaraderie amongst the players and they do seem to be buying into the manager, for the moment (a lot can change in the space of a few weeks) . There is some serious talent but that alone doesn’t translate to success on the pitch. Mental fortitude is a huge part of any success, we seem to be building that.

Thirdly, I feel we may be starting to see the influence of McKenna and Carrick on both Jose and the team. We seem to have much more of an attacking intent and apertite as shown in the last few games. Even in the spurs game we totally outplayed them in the first half but unfortunately we made far too many defensive mistakes. There seems to be an acknowledgment of our weakness at cb, so 2 defensive holding midfielders have been deployed to protect them. Pushing pogba further forward is starting to reap some benefits, and full backs of shaw and Dalot has the makings of a very talented and exciting pairing. They offer us width and a threat from crosses that we have not had since the days of rafael (miss him! ) and Evra.

Finally, I want to touch on Jose quickly. Not everyone’s cup of tea, you either hate him or love him, but there is no denying he has done well in bouncing back after a poor start. The football is not sparkling or as expansive and some rivals, but there are improvements. The way the fans have got behind him has been great to see. And him finally reciprocating some love back is something we as fans have been craving for 3 years. He most probably has an agenda but I would rather he engaged with the fans then ignored them. Would still like to see us play at a higher tempo and really impose ourselves on the opposition more dominantly. But we are moving in the right direction and I believe we can compete on most fronts. It’s well known I do like Jose but I will happily point out when he has been a bit of a tit.

A few negatives/ concerns. Playing style still can be improved. Let the final three express themselves a bit more and give them the confidence to try things. I think the shackles have been release a bit but with the talent in the forward areas we should be blowing some teams away with ease. Perhaps the lack of trust in the cbs is a hinderance to this but I feel we need to take the initiative more. Increase the tempo and decrease the number of touches/ labouring on the ball and we will score a fair few.

Secondly, it has to be fred. I actually like the look of him. He’s tenacious, quick footed and has a decent passing range and vision. However, he seems to be stuck in no mans land at the moment. Is he a defensive midfielder or attacking? Is he there to break up play or create? What I like is he is always looking forward and looking to release the likes of Lukaku. However, too many people are fighting him off early. He needs time to settle and adjust to the pace of the premier league. Get used to those playing around him as well. I don’t tjink it’s a case to be concerned but I hope we see a bit more discipline and improvement from him, especially positionally.

Then final things I want to touch on are bailly and rashford. Bailly for me is our best cb. But he has had a poor start to the season and has looked error prone. I feel our strongest pairing at the back his him and smalling. Lindelof looks composed on the ball but still has the occasional wobble. I hope he puts his head down and fights for that spot back. Now we can see why Jose was so desperate for Alderweireld. Wouldn’t mind a cheeky bid for him in January. Rashford is another marmite player. Some rate him and others see Danny Welbeck 2.0. I personally thinks he’s talented but not as good as we perhaps initially thought he could be. He’s not close to mbappe or ousmane dembele for me. He has some great attributes but the composure is a bit off. It may come with age, but I would like him to knuckle down and improve the consistency. He needs to make that rw position his own. I hope he proves me wrong as I still think he can contribute a huge amount this season.

Overall I give us a 6.5/ 10 for the start. Started poorly, but showed great character the last few weeks. The manager seems to have found a system and a some what balances side. Pogba has stepped up and Lukaku is scoring, albeit still doesn’t look anywhere near top gear. We have so many extra levels we can climb with this side. There are weaknesses but we should be challenging imo. Anything other than that and that is unacceptable. Can’t wait till the game on Saturday and I hope to see a bit more positivity on this page! Not all is wrong and hopefully we have turned a corner because if there is one thing I don’t want to see, it’s liverpool winning the league. That should be a big enough incentive for these boys. Fight for that badge on your chest, leave your all on the pitch, and entertain the fans, and that’s all we can ask for.

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1.) 21 Sep 2018 01:46:23
Excellent post park. Agree with all of that.

My thoughts on fred are maybe he's a box to box midfielder but at the mo he's not being utilised as that specifically. I like him though.


2.) 21 Sep 2018 02:22:24
Good post Park. There is definitely a growing sense of togetherness and positivity around the club. Make no mistake though, we need to keep the winning going. The first sign of weakness again and the vultures will be circling.


3.) 21 Sep 2018 05:48:37
Yes absolutely dodgyB.

Wolves will be a test for our back line so a good performance there is much needed for our defence.


4.) 21 Sep 2018 09:22:24
The media make more out of a situation that it actually is. There a disease.


Not seen anything about how spurs have lost there last 3 since beating us or how city are the first English team to lose 4 CL games in a row. 3 in a row at home.

Makes you laugh. all they care about is how bad United are.


5.) 21 Sep 2018 09:24:26
Good man Park. Saved me reading a book on my flight this morning.


6.) 21 Sep 2018 09:36:21
Park,

Extremely good, well thought of post, nice to see some positivity and as you say, a few wins and the whole mood has changed.

I agree on you about Sanchez too, he has been so much better the last few games, some really good runs and good crosses. I saw a post down the page saying their issue is no matter how he plays he starts, well that isn't true as he didn't start on Wednesday and never even came on. Jose seems to be using the squad well, I think we just need to keep winning and who knows what will happen.


7.) 21 Sep 2018 10:37:34
Fair assessment and well reasoned post Park I can't argue with any of that.

I agree it's been a good reaction to a poor start.

I think we've seen from the early defeats that our defence is vulnerable and we need to find the correct balance between defence and attack.

A lot of people won't like this but maybe the key to our season might just be Fellaini. Playing two defensive midfielders allows Pogba the freedom to dictate the play and get forward. Not as a traditional No 10 but being afforded a fee role to roam the pitch and influence the game from back to front. It's also allowed our full backs to push forward providing some natural width with Sanchez and Lingard playing closer to Lukaku.

Football is a team game and whilst Fellaini polarises opinion we can't argue that he's not been effective. If he provides the team with stability and allows others to function at a higher level then maybe we should climb down from our soapbox and see how it goes?!

Of course I'm concerned that Matic and Fellaini lack mobility which may cause issues against the better teams but if they provide the platform for our full backs to play higher, Pogba to get forward and we get better and quicker support for Lukaku then maybe this might just provide the balance we need to be more effective in both defence and attack.

Time will tell and I expect Wolves to pose a significant test tomorrow. They will defend deep with numbers and try to break quickly. They have pace and players that are comfortable in possession. We will have to defend and attack well in order to secure all three points. We'll face our toughest examination since the Spurs defeat and this fixture will provide a useful barometer on how far we have really progressed over the last few games.


8.) 21 Sep 2018 11:16:40
Thanks lads. Ken I re read it this morning and I did shock myself at how long that post was! 😂 I apologise it’s been a while and I’ve Waited to post since the beginning of the season as it takes a bit of time for the team to get going. Any loss was always going to spark unrest so I wanted to see how we reacted.

GDS I read something similar down the page on Sanchez. I agree he is not scoring enough but I actually think he is starting to show some nice touches and movement that the likes of pogba and matic need to pick up on. I don’t think martial or rashford have done enough to displace him from the left wing. What is good to see is that both of them had a decent game on Wednesday so the more competition the better. We need our wide players to have the fight and desire to compete for starting spots. Not sulking when they aren’t played. Competition within a squad pushes performance levels up, that’s what title winning squads have. Personally I would actually be happy to see rash and martial retain their spots for tomorrow. Think their pace and width could trouble the wolves defence. But I would understand if Sanchez and Lingard were retained.

Dlib that’s a good response mate and agree with all of that. Fellaini isn’t the most glamorous or aesthetically pleasing player. But he is effective. I think he can really help the back 4. But there will be games against Liverpool and city where he may not be the right player to counter their style of play. Matic and him could be a disaster in terms of mobility. But then I would push fellaini further forward and use his ability higher up the pitch. The purists would like to see pereira or Fred instead and allow us to fight fire with fire (I’m on this category) . But I can also appreciate perhaps we aren’t as good in this aspect. We have to play to our strengths as well as not playing into Liverpool or city’s hands. Pogba is so key to our chances. When we are direct, move the ball quickly and counter at speed we are so devastating. We need to improve on the ball with our retention and build up play needing to be more accurate and at a higher tempo.

Quickly on matic, I’ve seen some criticisms. I actually think he’s been decent and has looked better further up the pitch. I’m a big fan of his and think he brings a calmness and a good range of passing ability from midfield. He won’t play tomorrow so I hope we go more attacking with Fred or pereira. But matic is still key for me.


9.) 21 Sep 2018 11:29:56
Park very good post!


10.) 21 Sep 2018 12:12:06
Park - I agree re Matic pal I think he'll be a big loss tomorrow.


11.) 21 Sep 2018 12:37:17
I needed 3 lungs to read all that.


12.) 21 Sep 2018 12:43:21
Park - agree regarding matic, but fellaini has been a bonus in the dm role slotting into the cb role plugging gaps when the 2 cb are pulled apart. He really seems to have been given a role that suits him, the team and offers an aerial threat on set pieces. Never thought I'd say it tbh but he has been the difference in the league of late.
wouldn't under estimate Wolves but a quick start press, power and speed should see us through this match, hopefully.


13.) 21 Sep 2018 12:56:33
Love it FZZ.


14.) 21 Sep 2018 16:43:42
Great posts Park. Only teasing mate😁.


 

 

 

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Gary what ed is saying is Lukaku made noise because he wanted a step up from Everton. Although united are doing poorly at the moment, very few clubs are a step up in terms of stature and exposure. Juve May be a better footballing side, but they are not a bigger club.

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Would be a shame as would have like to have seen him get more minutes. Especially with Valencia out and Dalot an unknown quantity. Hope this doesn’t mean darmian won’t be moved on. Guess we will have to wait and see how this pans out.

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Eric he will only be back up for those sides. Great attitude but nothing more than a full back. Suited more to the Italian style of play - a lot slower.

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Maguire has been great this World Cup but he is still defensively suspect. He looks much better in a 3 as he is afforded more protection when he goes off venturing upfield. But in a two he is such a liability. I would be happy to sign him if we are to move to a 3 at the back. But we should be going all out for Alderweireld who is the best cb in the league.

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10 Oct 2018 22:25:10
FZZ compare the financial backing of Monaco and PSG. There front three alone costs more than monaco’s Whole squad. Liverpool as well are on a different level in terms of stature of club than Monaco. Not sure how you can even compare the two. It’s apples and oranges really. Just a bit of snobbery tbh looking down on winning the French league with a team that is not PSG.

And of course I don’t want Ranieri, nor am I taking away from him his miracle of a title win at Leicester. I’m not basing my opinion on jardim purely winning the league. There is so much more to him which makes him an attractive fit for united. He plays attractive football and has a track record of developing young talent (James, Bernardo Silva, martial, mbappe, Mendy and so on) . Is this not in keeping with the traditions of our club? Do we not aim to promote from within and develop potential into work class talent? Jardim ticks a lot of boxes for the sort of manager we should be employing at our club. He is young enough to imprint his philosophy on the club as well as to grow and be moulded by the values and traditions of united. Yes he has had a poor season this year, but I seem to remember we hired a certain manager off the back of a terrible season. Not sure why the idea of jardim is so outrageous to you.

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10 Oct 2018 19:26:02
Think you need to look up jardim again FZZ. He won Ligue 1 2 years ago. Against the financial might of PSG that was an incredible experience. He also knocked out pep’s city in the champions league and reached the semis. He is a very talented young manager. Is it a risk to appoint him on the back of a poor season? Sure. But we’ve been down the experienced route of a manager with trophy credentials. Jardim would most probably get more out of the attacking player. One final point, Klopp in his final season almost got Dortmund relegated. Yet he walked into the Liverpool job and has done a very good job since being there. I doubt Liverpool had reservations that Klopp was a poor manager because of 1 poor season. Let’s not be a prisoner of the moment and forget about the good that jardim has done. Jardim is very highly rated and would be a great fit for united, provided he has a good director of football to work with.

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09 Oct 2018 15:24:45
Would love jardim I think he’s a very good manager. Near on impossible job with his best players being sold every year for big profits. He beat PSG to the title a few years ago so has trophy credentials.

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06 Oct 2018 19:36:02
Shows what happens when the shackles are removed and the players attack. Our defence is shocking. We cannot rely on it by sitting back and protecting it. We have some very good attacking players. Let them attack, let them create, let them express themselves. We should have the attitude of you score 3 we score 4. Best form of defence is attack. We must attack attack attack.

That second half performance was the grit and passion I expect from a Manchester United team. The crowd were fantastic after the first goal went in. I hope the players realise that if they fight for that badge on there chest then the crowd will give them all the support they need. Jose with some very brave substitutions second half. They paid off.

Martial was fantastic second half. I have never seen him that determined or with that much desire to make something happen. He is a phenomenal player when he’s on it. Pogba was instrumental. Again he is a sensational footballer when he’s in the mood. Not enough for my liking though. But mata is the player who should be playing more. He is a little wizard and so creative, linking our play.

But make no mistake, that first half was the worst I’ve seen in a long time. It’s unacceptable. That win papers over the cracks. If that was against city I shudder to think what would have happened. There are deep rooted issues in our club. I still think Jose has taken us as far as he can. Let’s see what happens.

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