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15 May 2018 10:20:26
Hi Ed002 is you are around hope you are well mate. I know you said we had interest in alex Sandro but is he now our first choice target for left back? Thanks.

Park3lung

{Ed002's Note - I can't help with transfers any longer, sorry.}


1.) 15 May 2018 10:41:41
No problem thanks ed.


2.) 15 May 2018 12:32:14
If there is any truth in Sandro at 50 mill and the lad from Napoli as right back who seems highly rated at 44 mill -I don't pretend to know much about him -then Shaw and Darmian out as directly replaced for a net spend of 60 mill for a key part of defence with added attacking flair seems a good deal.


3.) 15 May 2018 12:52:37
would be a great pair of signings if true burrenway. I like Hysaj he looks a very good player. Only time will tell!


4.) 15 May 2018 12:25:31
Ed002 - is there any light at the end of the tunnel? When will you be back?

{Ed002's Note - Right now there is no plan to do anything involving transfers any longer.}


5.) 15 May 2018 14:46:53
Yes Park3lung, a bit of pace and flair going forward. I would then hope TFM comes into the first team squad as a back up rb to get him some real experience.


6.) 15 May 2018 17:41:54
Ed002 i am very sorry to hear that. I hope that there comes a time when this is all resolved and we have the pleasure of your wise words once more.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks, we'll see.}


7.) 15 May 2018 21:13:54
Most of us echo those thoughts Pogthedog, this site is a better place with Ed002 on board.


8.) 15 May 2018 22:41:22
Ultimately United will but whoever they buy.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds painful and unnecessary :)


 

 

10 Apr 2018 16:18:06
Hi Ed are the rumours of martial looking to leave in the summer true? Be bitterly disappointed if they are.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - i suspect he is angling for some more game time myself park..


1.) 10 Apr 2018 16:31:51
Smacks of short termism Ed if you ask me. I know he is not the finished article but if Jose really is looking to replace him with a 29 year old injury prone Gareth bale then I will be pretty livid.

Can’t blame martial he has 21 goals this season in all comps second only to Lukaku and played far less games. This has a feeling of De Bruyne if you ask me. Just my humble opinion 😂. Would much rather he was sent on loan.

{Ed025's Note - a loan to everton sounds good to me park..i love the guy..


2.) 10 Apr 2018 17:17:21
I’m fairly certain marital has 12 goals. he's a fantastic talent but doesn’t perform consistently enough, and if he doesn’t want to be here then get rid. If he does want to stay, he needs to get his head down and work hard.


3.) 10 Apr 2018 17:58:57
My mistake caolan was meant to say goals and assist. All together it would be 19 not 21. Agreed mate consistency is a problem but getting rid would be a huge mistake. If he wants regular play time a loan is better.


4.) 10 Apr 2018 16:46:50
Would be a great move ed he would get regular game time and in the premier league. But only if big sam is not managing him. A fonesca or Marco silva would do nicely! Fingers crossed he isn’t leaving but I’m not optimistic unfortunately. Thanks for your input as always ed much appreciated.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..


5.) 10 Apr 2018 18:25:30
This will be our kdb moment and given who the coach is not a surprise.


6.) 10 Apr 2018 18:40:48
Need to remember he is still young and developing. To maximise his potential he needs to play. I can’t blame the lad for looking elsewhere. The club took his number off him after he was trying to build a brand, we then bought Sanchez and moved him from his favoured position to the right. We then did not give him a run of games to get use to being on the right and then dropped him.

It does not demonstrate that he is valued. More gives the impression of you are here to make up the numbers and will be moved around or messed around as soon as we sign somebody else. I would be gutted if he left.


7.) 10 Apr 2018 19:29:29
I wanted him loaned out this season. He needs to play to improve and the scope for improvement is huge.


8.) 10 Apr 2018 19:38:01
Don’t be agree or get the love in with Martial. He’s a 1 in 5 player, and he needs to work hard every single day he’s here to prove he’s worth his chance.

We vastly overpaid for him in desperation and has been ok, but Rashford stays and plays more then fine by me.

Of course he could be awesome and fingers crossed it’s more media nonsense and he becomes a world class talent for us but he’s a striker not a winger.


9.) 10 Apr 2018 19:56:07
Caolan this is utd player's minutes per goals or assists ratio.

Lukaku- 110 mins per goal/ assist
Rashford- 111 mins
Lingard- 108 mins
Martial- 103 mins

Looks more like we just don't give him a consistent enough run to actually let him perform well consistently. He was utd player of the month 3 times this season until the 500k man arrived then mourinho did what he does best with young attacking players.


10.) 10 Apr 2018 20:50:03
Is it a case of the manager wants rid or the player wants to leave. Quite a lot quick to blame Jose an cite de bruyne but I think eds said that wasn't down to Jose.


11.) 10 Apr 2018 22:28:15
Sanchez is ten times the player Martial is right now. Blaming Jose for his sulky nature and lethargic style is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong he has the potential. But he needs to work hard to get there. Where is he realistically going to be allowed to move to that are equal to Utd and actually start matches? Modern footballers wind me up no end.


12.) 11 Apr 2018 00:26:18
Martial reminds me of Nani. Extremely talented but not consistent and extremely frustrating. Not sure if it's an attitude or lifestyle problem but he needs to change.


13.) 11 Apr 2018 00:49:21
Csm, I understand those stats, but they can be misleading eg the opening day he scored and assisted with 10 minutes left, but it shows the talent. Unfortunately, He’s not progressed in 3 years, his first season here was without doubt his best. He needs to show more and just keep an eye on Tahith Chong, works his backside off and looks a top talent. I don’t think martial has the desire, so if he wants to leave, let’s get a good price and move on.


14.) 11 Apr 2018 01:12:38
Don't disagree Eric, but that 10 times the player has also been ten times the tripe and not been benched, if martial had 1 game like Sanchez had a dozen he won't be starting for most of the 12 or so Sanchez has played for us.


15.) 11 Apr 2018 05:35:26
Caolan I don't have a problem with selling martial if the replacement is someone like a dybala but mourinho will replace martial with the Croatian Ashley young because he tracks back better. 2-3 years down the line when martial would be tearing it up in a team that actually is allowed to attack we will be in a Wayne Rooney situation with 2 30+ pace merchants who would have lost their pace and will be on high wages and whichever poor sap replaces mourinho will be left dealing with the issue and again we will be in a transition period.


16.) 11 Apr 2018 09:50:23
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at the moment in the wingers position.

He will do the job Mourinho requires him to do.


17.) 11 Apr 2018 10:09:34
MARTIAL's problem is Martial. Talent but gives the impression he only does what he thinks is enough which isn't always enough. If a deal to be had is better then let him go but not cheaply.


18.) 11 Apr 2018 10:43:51
What exactly is this job Singh.

Martial pl stats- 1347 mins 9 goals 5 assists

Croatian Ashley Young serie a stats- 2686 mins 9 goals 5 assists.

Sqauwka do a defense score in their comparison matrix it reads

Croatian Ashley Young- -23.9
Anthony Martial- 60.82

Doesn't seem like a defensive stalwart by looking at those stats. Only thing Croatian Ashley Young is better at than martial is his crossing and having watched him more than a few times, it ain't something to write home about. If we sign an actually decent lb we will get a crosser most likely better than the Croatian Ashley Young.


19.) 11 Apr 2018 11:27:55
Perisic is a decent player nothing more .
Done ok at inter last couple of years nothing more . will be 30 next season.


20.) 11 Apr 2018 11:41:23
Perisic is a decent player, who has had a couple of seasons of good form. But as CSM points out he is performing at currently around the same level as Martial. However, Martial has potential to get better whereas, Perisic will only decline.

However, Perisic plays predominantly on the left, Martial supposedly isn't happy because Sanchez has taken his place. Rashford supposedly isn't happy because he isn't starting as many games as he would like and he too has predominantly played on the left for Jose.

So we have three players two of which are talented young players who all predominantly play on the left.

Lingard has stepped up this year, and Mata remains consistent, we then have Angel Gomes and Chong in particular knocking on the door.

So why do people think that if Martial leaves he will be replaced?

If he leaves we probably won't see anyone come in to replace him. Sanchez has already done that.

Jose wants at least one full back, preferably two. A centre back despite already signing two and having a super talented Tuanzebe coming through. And at least one if not two midfielders again having already signing two, and having McTominay, TFM and Andreas Pereira trying to break through.

The forward positions are bottom of the list and we will only likely see another forward join after 4-5 other players who are higher priority. Which means we won't be signing one.

So by all means wish a super talented young player away, but don't cry when he isn't replaced and he goes on to become a star else where. Just like Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah did after Mourinho wasted their potential.


21.) 11 Apr 2018 11:58:14
Martial has been good this season when he's played. Has electric pace and the type of dribbling where it feels like the ball is glued to his foot. How many players in the world can you say that about? Add to that ice cool finishing and solid link up play. He is being wasted and will come back to haunt Mourinho like De Bruyne and Salah. Play Sanchez on the right (where he got his best goal and assist stats. Where he is comfortable playing) and Martial on the left of Lukaku. Serious skill, speed and finishing ability in that front 3 with Pogba supporting from deep.

But of course none of this is going to happen. Sanchez will play on the left to stunt Rashford and shuttle Martial out the door, while Martial will come back to piss all over us one day. Mourinho logic.


22.) 11 Apr 2018 13:11:53
Sorry but csm I don’t get why you’re comparing him to Persic, a completely different style of player? Once again thought it’s a minpulation of stats, whilst comparing two completely different players. I could find you a stat that says Milner was more creative than Scholes. I understand a lot of fans on here love martial, heck I’m a big fan of his, due to his talent but he’s not progressing on. Let me ask you this, would he have dug in on Saturday like Sanchez and tried to eat us big in the game. I don’t see the attitude from him that will make him a really top class player, that I know he can become. As snappy says there are young hungry players coming through the academy, so maybe let’s promote one and stick to the club values? Rather than spending our time on a player who has rejected a new 5 year deal (which shows the club value him) . It’s that reason why I’m not opposed to selling him.


23.) 11 Apr 2018 13:45:56
Martial isn't going yo get chances at United until Mourinho is here. Like Shappy has said Sanchez has already replaced him and if Mourinho signs another attacker it will limit his progress further.

He could be a superstar in the making but it just isn't going to happen at United unless something drastically changes.

Hr has had enough chances to prove himself at lw but hasn't really done much, stats are stats and it makes Ban Dost look like world class.


24.) 11 Apr 2018 14:01:30
So people want to sell martial?
Lot of people trying to justify the sale .
I do wonder if people would be wanting to get rid rid of him if it wasn't for the fact it's in the press .

Same goes for perisic being twice the player martial is . I doubt that would be the case if he wasn't linked to us last summer .
If martial signs a new contract has the club and Jose made a massive then reading above .
In fact are they in the wrong offering him a new contract?


25.) 11 Apr 2018 14:06:15
Perisic is twice the player Martial is at lw. Have you not seen how many times Martial loses the ball, makes wrong decisions and just stands their confused or even sulks when things don't go his way at lw.

Martial has loads of potential but not at lw. He will never be a winger unless he changes things draatically.


26.) 11 Apr 2018 14:11:48
Perisic is a lw isn't he caolan, milner scholes comparison is stupid but lw is lw styles might be different but end result expected is the same, it isn't mf where a pogba has different job to a matic. Your job as a lw is scoring or creating goals. Ronaldo and Beckham were different players with different styles but we expected both to either create or score goals. If we sign a lw we will expect him to score and create won't we?

You ask about the city, you seem to forget that it was martial who assisted lukaku in the Chelsea game for the equalizer and scored the late winner against spurs.

Also it's funny you complained about martial being inconsistent yet bring up Sanchez in comparison a player who has been nothing but inconsistent for us.


27.) 11 Apr 2018 14:16:38
Do you have some substance to back up this twice the player stance Singh because there isn't any metric out there that proves perisic is better than martial let alone being twice the player.


28.) 11 Apr 2018 14:41:39
CSM, I didn’t say Sanchez has been consistent did I? Merely pointing to the battling performance at the weekend I don’t think martial may be capable off, and he hasn’t shown that yet. Also shall we go back to that Chelsea game? He played a lovely pass to lukaku for the goal, and then was god awful after that.
And no I don’t agree that you can compare persic to martial, as all you’ve done is take statistics and use them as gospel. Don’t understand how you can say that’s a fair comparison but Milner to Scholes isn’t? Both play in the midfield don’t they?
Also if you read my post you’ll see that I don’t dislike martial, but he’s not been consistent enough, or hell even progressed. If he misses a chance his head drops, eg the Newcastle away game. He has all the talent in the world but I don’t know if he has the desire to achieve it. His movement off the ball at times is non existent, he would reluctantly go backwards, is he capable of a high press? The talent is there. He needs to work hard and fulfill that potential. I’m order to achieve that if he feels the need to leave then good luck to him. It’s the same with pogba.


29.) 11 Apr 2018 14:45:16
The main complaints about Martial is he doesn't track back, he is inconsistent, he loses the ball often and he should when things don't go his way.

Obviously the people voicing these complaints either haven't been United fans that long or they have very short memories.

All of the above could have been leveled at a 21 year old Ronaldo.

Sulks if he doesn't get the ball, inconsistent, doesn't track back, loses the ball.

Very short memories.


30.) 11 Apr 2018 14:51:53
Shappy, my criticism isn’t entirely based around work rate, but is he putting in the work Ronaldo did? We don’t know. Also the reason I’m leaning towards selling him is that the various reports state he rejected a contract. If that’s the case and he doesn’t want to be at united anymore then sell him.


31.) 11 Apr 2018 14:54:41
If Ed 2s about can you clarify it was de Bruyne who wanted to leave Chelsea. Also same with Lukaku and Salah. Apologies I know you've this before but I think it just needs to be clarified.

{Ed002's Note - De Bruyne and Salah both wanted to leave for specific reasons and Chelsea did not stand in their way. Lukaku did something which meant he would never return to Chelsea from loan and would never play for the club again.}


32.) 11 Apr 2018 15:15:03
Caolan
So if it is true that he has been offered a contract are the club and Jose wrong to offer him one based on the negatives above .

Very talent young player and people want to sell him?
I hope he stays and relises his potential at United.
Got to wonder what some on here would of thought of a young Ronaldo.
Singh
Have you actually watched perisic, he really isn't twice the player martial is .


33.) 11 Apr 2018 15:51:44
Caolan again remind me what Sanchez did other than the 2 assists before or after? He is 22 if you expect a 22 year old attacker in a jose mourinho team to be consistently brilliant either you are naive or have never watched football.

Most reports suggest that he isn't happy with the playing time which has been compounded by the signing of Sanchez, he isn't wrong in that is he. He rightfully started on the bench rather than first 11 this season because of his last season performances but then performed well enough to displace rashford and was one of our better attacking players until Sanchez arrived. Would you sign a contract if you get benched for multiple games after a single bad games but are forced to change position because a new player comes in who then proceeds to set new standards on how bad you can play but this player never gets benched.

About perisic martial comparison, you keep bringing milner and scholes in the conversation when they don't play the same position or are expected to do the same job yet ignore my Ronaldo and Beckham comparison because it doesn't suit your point. There is no real stat or fact or anything that can firmly say that perisic is better than martial so you come up with stuff like goals and assists aren't the only things we rate wingers on, fact is that is the biggest point on which people rate attackers on.

You don't want Sanchez or griezmann ahead of martial or rashford because they run more or track back but because they are better going forward and the Croatian Ashley Young ain't.


34.) 11 Apr 2018 16:01:24
Media spouts nonsense and the page goes into meltdown blaming Jose for this and that. Blah blah noise. Read what ed2 says above. None of which had anything to do with Mourinho. It’s very tiresome reacting from day to day on this stuff.

Jose hates youngsters so much he didn’t go to school and won’t talk to his children until they’re 25.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true Jose loves kids, on toast with a bit of cheese, but he couldn't eat a whole one...}


35.) 11 Apr 2018 16:31:49
Eric, I believe both Salah and De Bruyne left Chelsea for more playing time, in fact for any playing time as he wouldn't pick them.

Are you suggesting that Jose doesn't get to pick the team?

Jose may not have activity tried to sell them, but he didn't give them a chance. So they had to leave to further their careers.

No one is saying Martial, Shaw and Rashford want to leave United because they have it in Manchester, not is anyone saying they are being forced out by Jose. Merely Jose doesn't trust young players, he doesn't progress them as he doesn't create an environment for them to flourish. He would rather sign older players because Jose doesn't think about next season or the future of the club he is working for, he only cares about this season and how many trophies he can win for Jose Mourinho.

That is why he is a short term manager, and unless he wins the title next season he won't be our manager by the start of the 2019/ 20 season.

{Ed002's Note - No it was not really the situation with either player, it was more complex than that.}


36.) 11 Apr 2018 16:38:04
So where have I put down persic is better mate? And I’ll comment on Ronaldo and Beckham if you want. Two completely contrasting styles of players yet again. Only here for a bit of a debate and to give my opinion. No need to call me naive or question whether I’ve watched a game. At the end of the day you have your opinion, and I may not agree with it but it’s not me having a go, because we all have an opinion and no one is right or wrong. Last I’m going to say on the matter.


37.) 11 Apr 2018 16:55:31
And sorry I just seen the question about whether the club should offer him a new deal from Jred.
I’m reaponse mate, if the club feel he can fulfill his potential and he’s willing to work hard to do so then off course like I said earlier. There’s no doubting his potential at all the main reason I’m saying about getting rid of him is the fact that he’s apparently turned this deal down. My point is I don’t think he’d be as missed as people say, but it’s only my opinion.
At the end of the day I’d love him to stay here and become a legend, score 200+ goals. However, at this moment I don’t see that happening. I hope I’m wrong, but if he wants out, let him out. Last I’m saying.


38.) 11 Apr 2018 17:08:25
Didn't mean to cause offense caolan, sorry if i have. But it is annoying when people expect consistency from 22 year old attackers especially given our attacking play.


39.) 11 Apr 2018 17:10:59
When Ronaldo was here it was a differenr situation . We had fergie as our manager, we didn't have to compete with 4 other possible premier league challengers . We had a proper defence had a very good midfield had Tevez and Rooney and vannisteroy so we couldve carried a 21 year old inconsistent Ronaldo and even then he Ronaldo showed more skill then Martial has in his time here.


40.) 11 Apr 2018 17:20:35
No worries CSM. I’m not expecting Ronaldo/ Messi performances but I get frustrated with him because of how much ability he has, and I’m sure there are many who want to see a hell of a lot more from him because we know that potential.


41.) 11 Apr 2018 18:00:32
Singh
After reading all that then you want to sell him?


42.) 11 Apr 2018 18:28:37
Shappy he can only play 11 players at a time. Jose thinks sanchez is better than martial. I agree with him. He also thinks at this time that rashford is a better option than martial. I agree with him. He thinks lukaku is a better option i agree with him.
Its just The managers preference.
Lampard said last night that he never saw the potential in salah nobody at chelsea did and his leaving had nothing to do with jose personally nor did kdb leaving.


43.) 11 Apr 2018 19:03:49
Looks like I’m massively in the minority but if it were a simple case (which it isn’t of course, with £/ age factors) of Martial or Bale, I’d have Bale every time. So he’s much older, past his prime and with a questionable injury history. But he’s still got plenty left in the tank. Martial was a panic buy worth nothing like what was paid and has never been as good as his debut against Liverpool. Next Henry? Give me a break, he’s not on the same planet.


44.) 11 Apr 2018 19:14:35
Again Jred its about if Martial can be happy being part of the squad then he should stay but if he wants more game and if Mourinho isn't going to give him assurance then for his own career he should move elsewhere to get the game time he badly desires.

I would keep him if i was in charge at the club but i am not and i am here debating with you like many others.

You can't keep everyone happy and if Martial really wants to fight for his place and like mentioned in the media the contract is on the table foe him then he should sign it and fight for his player like everyone else.

If i was him personally i would make a move and get the game time i so badly want.

There are so many good clubs around the world he can make a name wirh foe himself.


45.) 11 Apr 2018 21:19:51
Singh
You seem to of given a lot of reasons to get rid of him.


46.) 11 Apr 2018 22:48:26
I don’t really post on here much just like reading everyone’s opinions but this thread is ridiculous.

Also I don’t know if you guys played football or if you did to what standard but if I was either martial or Rashford I’d be looking to the likes of Sanchez and Lukaku etc and saying help me. Looking at these players day in day out should show you what you need to improve yourself.

Martial has bags of potential BUT does he want to fight for his place and prove that he deserves to stay there? Does he try and adapt his game to fit playing right wing? Is he trying to develop himself after training etc or does he go home straight away? We don’t know the answers to these questions so therefore we don’t have that much knowledge on the matter.

I also seem to remember an attacking midfielder that had was better than Wayne Rooney when we signed him, he had bags of potential to. that was ANDERSON. Great potential turned into an average player.

Talent doesn’t automatically mean your going to be a star, you still have to work and dedicate yourself to the game so that you can maximise your potential e.g Ronaldo.

I don’t want him to leave but the club may see him strolling around in training not over bothered, bad attitude etc, not willing to learn blah blah blah. They are in the best possible position to make a decision on getting rid of him.


47.) 11 Apr 2018 23:15:15
Gazza91 top post that.


48.) 12 Apr 2018 08:29:54
Gaza
If that was the case why would they offer him a new contract.


49.) 12 Apr 2018 16:21:11
So if the player wants to leave should we keep him jred?


50.) 12 Apr 2018 18:18:11
Ken
If he wants to leave and won't sign a contract then it would be best to let him go .

But all this we should sell because of x y z are a bit silly imo .
If there were not rumours in the papers very few would want to sell a very talented young player .


51.) 12 Apr 2018 23:09:22
I wanted him to go on loan this season i feared that this would be The situation if he didn't. He actually got more game time than i thought he would be given.
He does have potential and now we are 1 year further down the line and we are none the wiser and he is no closer to fulfilling that potential if he had a hreat season in italy or spain then at least he would be coming back proven and confident and be a more rounded and experienced player. But now starved of meaningful gametime we have forced him into a corner.
But to be fair he hasn't forced himself into the team either.
Hindsight is 20/ 20 vision i suppose.


52.) 13 Apr 2018 10:13:03
He has been offered a 5 year contract which talks you a lot .
40 appearances so far in the EPL only lukaku has scored more
If he had went out on loan would he of gained more than that?
Who would of taking up the slack of him not being here?
How would his situation now of been any different, lukaku Sanchez etc would still be at the club he would still want reasurrences over his playing time .
New contract with a lot of other options as he is a top player, big decision .


 

 

28 Apr 2017 16:28:10
So gutted if the reports are true that fosu mensah has dislocated his shoulder. Was so looking forward to him getting some game time in midfield as I believe an eventual combination of him Herrera and pogba would compliment eachother very well.

The injuries really have taken its toll and it time for the players to stand up and be counted for. Rooney apparently could play in midfield and many will disagree but I think he could have provided a link from midfield to attack that we were missing yesterday. Not the same player but he can still do a job. Big game Sunday let's get the 3 points on the board and put pressure on city and the scousers.

Lots to play for and could end up being a special end if the seasons. Onwards and upwards.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - mensah is not the biggest loss though park, better him out than one of the bigger names as im sure we wont see the best of him until next season at the earliest mate..


1.) 29 Apr 2017 14:40:00
We need to remain calm about the youth players. I'm a huge fan of Rashfords potential but he isn't in the top 50 scorers in the 'league' this season and Mensah has done nothing yet to even be discussed as the main defensive midfielder in a team that wants to win the CL. It's almost bordering on hysteria. Both their positions need serious strengthening in the summer.


 

 

 

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09 Dec 2018 10:54:19
Really enjoyed yesterday’s game. Best first half in a while. Of course we were playing the basement club but we have made a dogs dinner out of most of our games against lowly opposition this season.

I’ll be honest I saw the team and I wasn’t particularly enthused. But surprisingly front he off we pressed and harried the opposition. Herrera really sets the tone for us. He plays with such heart and passion every time he steps onto the pitch. He’s should be the first name on the team sheet and he should be captain for me.

Matic put in a better display. He’s been very poor for me but he looked far more positive and more energetic. On form he is a very good player, almost Carrick esque in some respect. We played further up the pitch and looked to impose our game on the opposition. Positive play translated into a positive result. What are the odds eh?

Juan mata. My favourite player at the club. An absolute you magnificently talented player, and even better human being. His movement, vision and creativity behind the striker was great at times. I honestly think we are a far better side with him playing, but it has to be centrally. Whenever he plays he always has an impact, and even when he does not he is the consummate professional. A few could learn from him. The Spanish contingent of Herrera, mata and De Gea have really bought into the history and traditions of the club. All three are shoe ins for me in our best starting XI.

Rashford is really hitting some form. I don’t get why he receives a lot of stick here because he is going to be a very special player. He’s a game changer for us. Direct, powerful and explosive. That’s 4 assists in the last 5 games I believe. He’s our top assist maker in the league with 5. Finishing can improve but it will come with time. Very good game and long may it continue. To lukaku’s credit he never stopped working. Some nice touches here and there and worked his socks off. 2 goals in 2 now for him. Hope he keeps his head down and gets his scoring boots on because we need him now more than ever.

But the biggest bonus for me yesterday was the impact of our full backs. They were both brilliant yesterday. A lot of us have been clamouring for an improvement in our full back areas so we can provide more width up the pitch to stretch teams. Dalot was brilliant. For such a young lad he has a great physique to match with technical ability. And finally we have someone that can cross. Early days, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Still needs to improve positonally in defence but I want to see him as our first choice rb for the remainder of the season. Credit to young he was very good yesterday. Get shaw back in and we have an exciting full back pairing for years to come.

We look better without pogba. He doesn’t deserve to be in the starting XI. Personally, I’m done with him. I don’t like his attitude and for all his talents he has not lived up to his price tag. He doesn’t play the position properly. If he loses the ball he never tracks back. This is not a talent problem. This is an attitude and application problem. Any manager in the world would get frustrated at their star player not putting a shift in. There’s no guarantee if say Poch was to come in he would suddenly start working. Perhaps Fergie was right regarding his attitude problems. Fred was exciting when he came on. Glimpses of what he can do. I know he splits opinion on this site, but I like the look for him. You cannot judge him based on the game time he has played. I respect Ed001’s opinion on him but I would have to kindly disagree. Think there is a player there, but we need to find his best position. Wouldn’t mind seeing him next to Herrera and behind mata in a midfield 3.

We have a huge game against the scousers. They are high flying. We cannot lose this. This is more than just a game of football. It is pride. If there is any manager who can win any one off game it’s jose. I don’t care how we win it, just that we do.

Park3lung

1.) 09 Dec 2018 11:55:51
This post is entirely delusional and only propped up by fantasy. We must cure ourselves of false prophets and their excesses. Herrera is OK but not much better than that. Mata is a likeable elf, but is not to be deployed in anger. Shaw is mechanical and creates nothing. Lukuku is a three-legged sack-race. Rashford is fast but reckless. Our hope likes in the classy Fred, rejuvenated Pogba, and Martial.

Our version of T. May, the hapless drone of a manager requires urgent defenestration.


2.) 09 Dec 2018 12:27:45
Good post park.


3.) 09 Dec 2018 16:58:52
Great post, Park.
Cheer up, Pliny.


4.) 09 Dec 2018 17:24:33
Herrera is playing very well, he has always improved with game time. He, as you say should be our captain, not the worlds best midfielder, but very, very good with a world class attitude. So with this in mind I fully expect him to be dropped very soon.


5.) 09 Dec 2018 20:45:20
Very good articulate post mate. I agree it was great to see the full backs more advanced and putting crosses into the box. Yesterday we played with genuine width and both full backs played liked wingers. If we can continue to put quality deliveries into the box this will benefit Lukaku and he'll become more of a goal threat once again.

As for Herrera we need him to bring energy and intensity to the midfield. Without him we are passive and pedestrian. He's not the most creative and is sometimes guilty of playing to many backwards and sideways passes but his role in the team is to put the opposition under pressure and try to win the ball back higher up the pitch. It's incumbent on the likes of Mata, Lingard, Martial, Sanchez and Rashford etc to be more creative and carry a goal threat. Having more advanced full backs providing the width and putting quality deliveries into the box for Lukaku will also help. We can only judge Herrera by the qualities to which he brings to the team and our expectations should be adjusted accordingly. I view Herrera as a facilitator, he provides a platform for the others to play and puts pressure on the opposition with his tenacity and energy. Liverpool's midfield is very workmanlike with the likes of Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum none of which are any better than Herrera in my opinion. The key to our midfield is finding a balance which I think Jose is close to finding now. I think he's almost given up on Pogba and I expect him to persist with the Herrera/ Matic axis. I think Lingard's movement and energy is also important in the No10/ attacking midfielder role and Mata's quality on the ball links everything together nicely. With Dalot providing the width and pace on the right its no longer such an issue when Mata comes inside in search of the ball.

It is my belief that Pogba has provided Mourinho with perhaps his biggest challenge at Utd. I think he envisaged Pogba playing as part of a midfield 2 but his lack of positional discipline and his attitude to the game has surprised him. He's abandoned his favoured 4-2-3-1 in favour of a 4-3-3 to accommodate Pogba but an extra midfielder blunts our attack and Pogba's performances have been nowhere near consistent enough to justify a switch in formation. His influence in the dressing room has created a divide and their fractured relationship has had a detrimental effect on results as they have both postured for power. When Pogba was introduced against Arsenal the boos were audible and it would appear Jose is finally getting the upper hand in their battle. It's all such a terrible shame because they are both represent the most decorated employees at the Club and they should be pushing us towards the top and not away from it. In reality Pogba will eventually get his dream move and will recover because his talent is undeniable. As for Mourinho top 4 is looking incredibly difficult and I expect he will probably pay with his job. If Jose could somehow build on the Fulham performance, develop a recognised style of play with more energy and intensity in the team with attacking full backs providing the width and ammunition for Lukaku then with a string of good results behind him maybe he could save his job even without finishing in the top 4 if we can see progress. Sometimes we don't look that far away and with some consistency in formation and selection maybe we can look forward to a more productive New Year.


 

 

04 Dec 2018 21:19:46
So painful watching city play such great football. Say what you want about Guardiola, but he is head and shoulders above any manager in the world. This city side imo is the greatest ‘premier league’ side we have ever seen. Can’t see them getting beat this season. Scary to think de Bruyne has hardly played as well. I guess this is how city fans felt all those years we were winning titles for fun. Not saying we should wallow and accept mediocrity. But sometimes you have to accept that winning comes in cycles. We had unprecedented success that we thought would never end. We just have to suck it in at the moment. Until we don’t focus on ourselves and reshake our structure, manager and mentality, we will not close the gap between ourselves and city.

Park3lung

1.) 04 Dec 2018 22:17:10
Some of us thought it would end a year earlier than it did. #20 was something of a bonus that masked the clubs problems.


2.) 04 Dec 2018 22:35:32
Sorry park but I have to disagree about being the best ever. They look far better than they actually are because everybody dit’s off them and let's them play. Could you imagine Robson or Keane sitting off Silva and letting him play. Get into em and see if they like it. I know times have changed but you can still tackle.


3.) 05 Dec 2018 03:51:03
Times have drastically changed the wonderful game. The day when football was a man's game for now a distant memory. The ladies teams tackle like men and get up and keep playing on where as the men roll round screaming like a bullet has hit them playing like girls.

How long before any tackle is banned and only interceptions are permitted to gain possesion. The day this happens footballers will be ex ballerina'$.

{Ed001's Note - that will never happen, as City are allowed to kick players without any kind of punishment. Just ask Delph, who right at the start of the game jump kicks the ball nearly taking Success's head off and then, when Success just powers through it, he then trips him. At the absolute minimum there should have been a yellow card given, but he didn't even get spoken to by the referee. And Fernandinho and Kompany could castrate someone with a rusty table knife and decapitate random children in the crowd without getting booked. So tackles will only be banned against City to allow them to play this 'great' football....}


4.) 05 Dec 2018 08:00:28
One thing that gets overlooked at city is the quality of wing play. The amount of times mahrez and sane or sterling were one on one with their full backs in and around the box was remarkable. Its almost old fashioned, reminds me of previous united teams at their best.

Imagine if martial or rashford could get those same oppurtunites instead of having to carry the ball 50 yards just to reach the box.


5.) 05 Dec 2018 08:27:25
Ed001, I watched with a city fan friend of mine and even he said he can't believe what Fernandinho gets away with every game. Fans see it, pundits have discussed it, and journalists write about it, so how come referees are oblivious to it?

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe they are oblivious to it, they are just under huge amounts of pressure and bottle it.}


6.) 05 Dec 2018 10:20:30
Park, I love your posts but the greatesr Premier League team is a stretch. Good yes, best ever? Not by a long way.


7.) 05 Dec 2018 14:54:58
Tony maybe the alcohol impaired my vision last night 😂 so the greatest perhaps is a stretch. But every time they play I don’t expect anything else but a a huge win for them. They expect it, the opposition do and their fans do. Perhaps it’s because the situation is so dire at the moment that city’s ability seems even better. But if they score 100+ Points, go unbeaten and score more and concede less than last year, I think it’s hard to disagree with their status as potentially the greatest. They would only be the greatest ‘premier league team’ though instead of the greatest English side, if that makes sense. To be the greatest English side, they would have to top the treble winning side. Not out of the realms of impossibility.


8.) 05 Dec 2018 15:03:29
And do it for more than two seasons.


9.) 05 Dec 2018 20:29:28
Some of the "tackles" and "blocks" Fernandinho has gotten away with over the past couple of seasons are pretty incredible.
Busquets was the same at Guardiola's Barcelona.


 

 

02 Dec 2018 16:37:10
Banter please Ed’s. Wow what a north London derby. Both teams played with intensity, quality and commitment. 3 things united lack in droves.

On display was 2 managers who did not get a huge amount of money to spend on players in the summer. One did t have anything to spend at all. Did they silk and turn on their players whenever things went wrong? Or did they knuckle down and work tirelessly to improve their players and to imprint their philosophy and ideology on their two sets of players?

Emery has done such an incredible job at arsenal. This is a team who were being spanked regularly by teams in the top 6. They hadn’t won an away league game in ages before he took over. By and large, these are nearly ALL the same players that Wenger had at his disposal, apart from the wonderful Torreira. He was an absolute bargain and a great find by mislentat and his scouting team. Arsenal have executed their transitional from Wenger to emery beautifully. Investing in the restructure of the club and hiring a progressive and forward thinking manager has worked wonders for them.

Emery is a fantastic tactician. But above all else, he seems to be such an amiable character. His man management skills are working wonders on several players who were a laughing stock under Wenger. What a difference in performance for the likes of iwobi, xhaka and mustafi to name a few. Then we look back at our situation. You cannot tell me that martial, pogba and bailly are not more talented than those three arsenal players. Yet which would you rather have in your team on current form? I know who I would. I take my hat off to emery because I’m a short amount of time you can really see what he is trying to achieve with this side. What their identity is. The players look like they are having the time of their lives at the moment. The fans are in dreamland. This is what football is about. Look at our players and look we we fans have to watch week in week out. There is NO excuse for Jose when you have the likes of emery and sarri coming in and improving players and style of play in 3 months when we are nearly 3 years down the line and there is still no identity or style of play. If anything, we have regressed.

Onto Poch, I think he has taken spurs as far as he can. People will say he bottled it and maybe he is not right for united but I think he’s a no brainier. If we push for him I think he is very attainable. The question is will the owners be willing to do so? We are at a cross roads. Appointing someone who is willing to improve the players and brings a progressive forward thinking way of football will make the world of difference. We may not have the squad to win the league, but we would be much more entertaining and we would be building something which can materialise into something potentially great.

Park3lung

1.) 02 Dec 2018 16:51:39
Poch has a very talented squad but still they have won nothing. I don't know if he has the ability to take it to the next level which is where Utd need to get back to.


2.) 02 Dec 2018 16:54:42
I think we shouldn't be touching any managers or players from our top rivals in the league anymore because it brings in a lot of pressure along with it. 90% of the times these type of signigs fail. Poch will be scrutinised heavily from day 1.
I hope we get someone from a foreign league with new fresh ideas and the same goes for the dof.


 

 

30 Nov 2018 00:13:26
So it seems Sanchez is injured. I can’t see him playing for united again. Ed did say we are looking to shift him and I would be surprised to see him move to PSG in January.

The Sanchez deal is one which real disappoints me. There is no doubting he is so much ability and that he was one of the top players in the league at arsenal. He has just never found his place in this united team. I think a lot of that is down to style of play and tactics by Jose. You can never fault his work ethic and work rate for the cause. He always leaves everything on the pitch.

I had an interesting conversation with my mate whose a gooner and he said that he thinks Sanchez was in decline in his final season at arsenal. He reckons that arsenal sold at the right time as he thinks Sanchez was completely burnt out due to overplaying during his time there. This did get me thinking that perhaps Sanchez isn’t the player we thought we had bought. I still don’t necessarily believe this though and if he moves to PSG he will regain form.

Although my head says we have to get rid there is still a niggling feeling that we may regret it if we don’t what he can do under a new manager. When Sanchez played centrally against Juve and Bournemouth we looked a far better side. He linked up the play beautifully at times and his mobility, touch and movement took us up a notch from the disasterclass of Lukaku this season. For the life of me I don’t understand why he was dropped. I really wanted to see him given a proper run in the cf position and I’m sure we would have seen glimpses of the Sanchez of old as well as a much better united team.

If he doesn’t play for us again, I wish him well and it’s a shame it hasn’t worked out. There’s a top player there and I hope he turns it on again. But it is imperative that the Woodward learns from this expensive mistake. Never should we give a player that much money and never should we buy a player who doesn’t suit the manager’s vision or style of play. We need a plan and identity and we need to follow it.

Park3lung

1.) 30 Nov 2018 07:46:22
Agree park, also did we buy him to stop other interested parties. If city had of signed him I'm sure he would have been better suited to their style of play.


2.) 30 Nov 2018 08:35:14
It seems that way Simon. I do believe he would tearing up the league if he was at city right now. You could argue we bought fred for the same reason of stopping city getting him. It’s early days but I’m still not writing fred off. Think there is a player there he just needs time to settle and it doesn’t help he’s come into a team that is performing so poorly and is so unstable. A few midfielders have struggled to adapt to the league such as Keita and Fabinho. Neither are poor players and I expect them to all be a decent in the league.


3.) 30 Nov 2018 09:19:21
Alexis sanchez demise is purely down to him. He was automatically given a place in the side when he hadnt earned it and there were two young players playing well in that position.

He was then persevered with in that position when it was clear he was underperforming severely and given every chance by jose to come good. Still was unable to produce any semblance of a good performance.

As for his work ethic i have seen rashford and martial both do a better job of doing their defensive work, most of the time off the ball i see sanchez standing still with his hands on his hips like its everyone elses fault he is playing badly.

He will go down as a just as bad a signing as angel di maria, really poor stuff from someone who was supposed to be an experienced professional showing the likes of martial and rashford what it takes to make it at a top team.

{Ed025's Note - when your on £500,000 a week i suppose its hard to get motivated DSG, it seems to be a chore for him to be playing at the moment and he seems to be sulking every week and not enjoying the games, at arsenal i thought he was fantastic and there is no questioning his ability but his attitude stinks, now whether thats down to the money, the manager or not being the main man i dont know, but one thing is for certain hes a waste of space at the moment mate..


4.) 30 Nov 2018 12:46:51
I think we should avoid big reputation players. They always seem to flop. Veron, Bastian, Falcao, Angel di Maria. Unfortunately with Galactico Ed at the helm I can't see it changing.


5.) 30 Nov 2018 13:14:06
Never was keen on us signing Alexis, nothing personal at all, but i'll be glad when he leaves. Really feel that City and United signed the wrong players, in Mahrez and Sanchez. Both would of suited the other team more. Oh well, onto the next.


6.) 30 Nov 2018 13:52:47
Curse of the No.7 shirt strikes again. Since Ronaldo left Owen, Di Maria, Depay, Sanchez and Valencia have all worn the shirt. The year Valencia wore it was probably his worst at our club (until this season) .

The people who have been successful in the No.7 shirt have either come through the academy and/ or embraced the history and traditions of the club.

It's a special shirt and you need to respect it/ the club if you want to be successful in it.

Or maybe I'm being superstitious. Lol.


7.) 30 Nov 2018 16:42:39
Shappy I’m with mate there is definitely a curse on that no 7 shirt 😂. And also on the manager’s position.


8.) 30 Nov 2018 17:53:48
From sitting on the bench earning 500k a week to sitting on his arm chair at home. what a life hahaha.


 

 

28 Nov 2018 22:00:50
Hate neymar’s antics but when he is on it he is such a magnificent players. The front three of him mbappe and cavani are so good. Neymar and mbappe’s link up play was mesmerising at times tonight. Unfortunately the PSG play acting did put a sour note on the game. But really enjoyed watching PSG tonight. I personally quite like tuchel. Think he’s a talented young manager.

Park3lung

1.) 28 Nov 2018 22:31:00
Neymar is a cheat. Can’t stand him - he’s too good to do this nonsense but he chooses to which tells me all I need to know about him.


2.) 29 Nov 2018 06:04:48
Dreadful antics from the whole PSG team, this is an area that needs addressing, it was embarrassing.

{Ed025's Note - its getting silly now AJH..


3.) 29 Nov 2018 09:20:26
They were awful, footy at it worse really no need with all that talent . neymar sums them up.


4.) 29 Nov 2018 14:50:23
The passion showed by Silva and Marquinhos in defence was something we rarely see at UTD.


5.) 29 Nov 2018 15:35:00
Neymar is extremely disappointing.


6.) 29 Nov 2018 18:37:28
Agreed with all the comments about the play acting. Such a bad advert for the game. Thiago Silva was great last night mad hatter. Played like to the level that he used to play a few years ago.


 

 

 

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09 Dec 2018 12:24:43
Who could forget Ezequiel Garay at cb.

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28 Nov 2018 22:02:28
Pochettino for sure.

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19 Oct 2018 14:11:10
Gary what ed is saying is Lukaku made noise because he wanted a step up from Everton. Although united are doing poorly at the moment, very few clubs are a step up in terms of stature and exposure. Juve May be a better footballing side, but they are not a bigger club.

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04 Aug 2018 21:28:55
Would be a shame as would have like to have seen him get more minutes. Especially with Valencia out and Dalot an unknown quantity. Hope this doesn’t mean darmian won’t be moved on. Guess we will have to wait and see how this pans out.

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02 Aug 2018 11:03:42
Eric he will only be back up for those sides. Great attitude but nothing more than a full back. Suited more to the Italian style of play - a lot slower.

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09 Dec 2018 19:56:16
Great idea ed, always enjoy your daily reviews. I would be interested in hearing any sport anecdotes you may have.

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{Ed001's Note - ok thanks mate. That makes it easier for me, as there are only so many football anecdotes!}


 

 

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09 Dec 2018 10:24:38
Good post Tony. We are just woefully inconsistent. And as UA has mentioned above, there are a few bad apples in the squad (namely pogba) . When we want to put in a decent performance we can compete with the likes of Chelsea, Juventus etc. But we can’t seem to get motivated in the smaller games. These are your bread and butter. We play the other top 6 teams for a total 10 games home and away. The other 18 games are against the smaller sides. To even be in contention of top 4 we have to be winning them and be aiming to win all our home games against our rivals. Then look to pick up points away from home. We’ve dropped far too many silly points. I don’t think we are as bad as the table reflects. But I do feel it’s a little too late to challenge the top 4.

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06 Dec 2018 17:27:30
He’s our best defender. Has all the attributes to be one of the best in the league. Only issue is he is still a bit raw. Can be rash and seems to struggle to keep fit. But improvement in those areas come with game time, consistency and trust from the manager. We would be crazy to even entertain the idea of selling him. Him and lindelof compliment each other beautifully. His almost Vidic like whilst lindelof is the more cultured on the ball rio of the pairing. Jose has two very good young cbs there. I don’t buy it that we have a poor defence if those two can be given the trust and confidence to build a partnership. If under Guardiola or Poch, these two would be up there with the best partnerships. May be OTT but I really rate this two that highly. Yes an experienced cb may be needed, but these two could be our cb pairing for years to come, if given the opportunity and game time.

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05 Dec 2018 15:52:42
Never wish us to lose. Even if it means Jose stays. He will be gone soon it’s inevitable. But I never ever want to see us lose at home to arsenal. I used to hate them when we were competing for titles all those years ago. I would ngl want to give them the satisfaction of beating them on our turf. Nobody should ever come to our ground and have an easy day out. I know old Trafford is not currently a fortress, but we need to get back to the times where teams where beat before they even took the pitch.

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05 Dec 2018 09:08:50
Genius ed 😂.

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{Ed025's Note - cheers park, its always a good craic on here mate even when the team is not doing so well mate..