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28 Apr 2017 16:28:10
So gutted if the reports are true that fosu mensah has dislocated his shoulder. Was so looking forward to him getting some game time in midfield as I believe an eventual combination of him Herrera and pogba would compliment eachother very well.

The injuries really have taken its toll and it time for the players to stand up and be counted for. Rooney apparently could play in midfield and many will disagree but I think he could have provided a link from midfield to attack that we were missing yesterday. Not the same player but he can still do a job. Big game Sunday let's get the 3 points on the board and put pressure on city and the scousers.

Lots to play for and could end up being a special end if the seasons. Onwards and upwards.


{Ed025's Note - mensah is not the biggest loss though park, better him out than one of the bigger names as im sure we wont see the best of him until next season at the earliest mate..

1.) 29 Apr 2017 14:40:00
We need to remain calm about the youth players. I'm a huge fan of Rashfords potential but he isn't in the top 50 scorers in the 'league' this season and Mensah has done nothing yet to even be discussed as the main defensive midfielder in a team that wants to win the CL. It's almost bordering on hysteria. Both their positions need serious strengthening in the summer.




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19 Mar 2018 21:35:18
Like I have said further down the page, I may not think Jose can win us the league but I will still support him as long as he is in charge of us. I think Jose is a very good manager just not right for us. A Manchester United manager is expected to play football the right way in keeping with our traditions. He must also hold himself with decorum and not act in a classless manner. But me thinking he should be replaced does not mean that I won’t praise him when he does something good or criticise him when he makes a mistake. It’s a game of opinions and we are lucky we have fans on this platform offering theirs even if they are polar opposites.

It is not pretty what Jose is doing but it is clear for the moment the board support him and will get rid of players he does not want. I think we have to appreciate this because some of these players feel they can down tools and then the manager will take the flack. Some of these players should never have been bought in the first place as they do not have the mentality to play for united. So if that means Jose has to cull them and buy players who he believes are right for the system then so be it. I am pretty confident that when Jose goes the squad he leaves will be an enticing one for any new that eventually takes up the reigns. He is not going to get us playing us the style of football we crave but results wise we have improved so let’s be grateful for that. We have no divine right to win any trophies. But look at the standards of our club that we have won 3 trophies in the last 2 seasons yet we don’t settle for that. Whereas spurs and Liverpool haven’t yet they are very content with the way things are going. Yes they are teams on the up but let’s see this as a positive that we won’t be satisfied till we win the title and European cup. Jose whether you like him or not has those burning ambitions. It’s just the way he does it does not resonate well with myself or other fans.

We must remember we are All Manchester United fans first. So we must support the team every time they step on the field, no matter who has been selected. Even if it is Fellaini playing for us I will support him ( trust me is is very very difficult) . So until Jose leaves he will have my support because that is the right thing to do, whether I like him or results go our way or not.


1.) 19 Mar 2018 22:25:33
Great post Park3lung. Its very difficult to find a combination of both style and trophies. City have done that with Pep but the others have not.

I would take a trip to Wembley and a 2nd place right now to Liverpool's style but no substance (lost 4 pts to us this year. Created nothing at Old Trafford) . Would anyone want to finish 4th and win nothing like Spurs?

All I want right now from Jose is to keep making the tough decisions and leave a good squad for when he goes and instill some belief and character.



14 Mar 2018 18:09:51
Video circulating of a training session from Pep's days at Bayern. He is so intense but his attention to detail on attacking patterns of play is incredible.


1.) 14 Mar 2018 21:59:52
Jose doesn't believe I'm this bs. He believes in the real football.

2.) 15 Mar 2018 03:54:36
Pep is a coach jose is a manager.



11 Mar 2018 22:03:07
The biggest bonus for me about the victory on Saturday was that we found a way to win and find a formation and selection that works when pogba doesn’t play. In the games earlier in the season when he got injured we were shockingly laboured and slow in our transition from defence to attack. Lukaku’s hold up play is key and mata’s Creativity helped us with pogba not playing. Great to see and credit to Jose and the players. Dare I say Jose is looking less depressing and seems more relaxed and happy in his role as united manager.


1.) 11 Mar 2018 22:54:08
Park - I can't believe I'm saying this but I think there's an argument that if Jose wants to play 4-2-3-1 we might have a more balanced and effective team if Pogba doesn't play in the big games, especially now we've got Sanchez. I had a feeling his absence yesterday might not have been the disaster we all feared.

I think now we've got Sanchez we can afford to have two defensive midfielders and Pogba's absence won't be felt so strongly.

Don't get me wrong Pogba is an amazing talent, he's my favourite player and we'll still need his creatively against teams that surrender possession and defend deep but in the big games he simply has to be more disciplined and do his job for the team when deployed in a two man midfield. He can't keep vacating the midfield and leaving Matic isolated.

2.) 11 Mar 2018 22:57:48
Loved Jose's post-match reaction on Sky, said something along the lines of 'i don't care what they (pundits) say' camera then proceeds fo Souness' incredibly bitter face, so satisfying😂😂😂!

3.) 11 Mar 2018 23:20:24
Danny, interesting question you raise about Pogba, but I think you may have gone a bit too far. It is one thing to say we can play well without him, but I think saying he should be left out of big games is too much, given his talent. Not sure if that is what you meant.

But tactically you raise a very important question. Pogba has not been disciplined enough defensively as a DCM in the 4-2-3-1. So the question remains: can he develop that discipline against stronger opponents or should Mourinho develop him as the #10? I still think he is a more natural central midfielder than a #10. But he needs to straighten himself out soon, since he looks far more interested when we have the ball than when we don't.

4.) 11 Mar 2018 23:29:17
Interesting and valid point Danny. If it's going to be 4231 in the big games then it has been shown repeatedly that pogba is not the right man to play in that two.

5.) 11 Mar 2018 23:47:53
Danny my thoughts exactly mate. Pogba is a supreme talent and I feared we would struggle but we looked very balanced yesterday. In previous weeks Sanchez and pogba have occupied the same spaces on the pitch and it hasn’t really worked. I think it’s a good problem to have and I think Jose has potentially found a way to to set up in big games now. Playing two defensive midfielders gave us a solid base to work from which we haven’t had in a lot of games this season.

Scholes it was hilarious Souness is such a salty bitter man. He never has anything positive to say about united and Jose mocking him was hilarious. Dare I say this is the first time i'm seeing a bit of the old Jose from his first spell at Chelsea. It’s not always pretty but we are very resilient and for the first time in years I felt connected to this united team. Win our next two games and anything is possible.

6.) 12 Mar 2018 07:48:03
Zidaniel - Sorry I'm not saying he should be left out only that an argument could be made and your right one good result doesn't mean we're better off without him but he must find a way of influencing the big games.

I've always had the feeling that Jose preferred formation is 4-2-3-1 but he's changed this regularly, in my opinion mainly due to to not having a consistent No 10 and arguments raging about Pogba's best position.

I get the impression that now we've got Sanchez he might just have settled on 4-2-3-1 with Sanchez as his No 10.

Jred has posted a few times that maybe Pogba and Sanchez play in similar areas and Park has just posted similar. At first I didn't buy it but from the few games in which they've played together they both roam around the pitch looking to get on the ball which causes us all kinds of problems defensively especially if you add Mata and Lingard into the equation.

In a 4-3-3 Sanchez has often dropped deep occupying Pogba's position on the left and it hasn't quite worked just yet. Maybe this is just teething problems?

Maybe a settled formation might be good for Pogba. No more excuses, no more debates, no more question marks about his role. This is your position now do your job for the team otherwise somebody else will.

It's very early days yet and we beat Chelsea playing 4-3-3 although I argued at the time it was more of a 4-3-1-2 so who knows.

I just wish we could get Pogba playing more consistently and put all this to bed. There is no doubt we're a much better team with an in form Pogba in the lineup.

7.) 12 Mar 2018 12:08:25
I agree with that, Danny, I see Pogba learning to play the def center mid role in the 4-2-3-1 and the left center mid in a 4-3-3. One issue is him being disciplined in the first case, and secondly he and Sanchez not getting in each other's way. Both problems are very solvable, in the big picture.



11 Mar 2018 12:25:50
Wow what a result. I celebrated that victory perhaps a little too hard last night and am feeling the effects today. It’s amazing a few weeks ago it was all doom and gloom and we were in terrible form where we could have been in danger of dropping out the top 4. Fast forward 2 weeks and we’ve beat Liverpool and Chelsea at home, a win away from a champions league quarter final and a win away from the fa cup semis.

I wanted to touch on how well our defence played yesterday. I am not a fan of young and smalling and don’t think they are good enough but they were brilliant yesterday. Young especially I have been critical but credit where it is due he had Salah in his pocket all game. But the real star for me was Eric bailly. What a performance and what a player we have on our hands. He’s brilliant on the ball whilst also aggressive in his tackling and positionally sound. If he can stay fit we are looking at a defender who has the potential to be the best in the world. You can see how much confidence he instils in the other players around him when he plays. To Jose and our scouting team great job for finding him becaus he is an absolute gem.

Yesterday it was the first time in years I felt a real connection with this Man Utd team. I didn’t get the opportunity to be at old Trafford but from the sound of it the place looked like it was rocking. Often there has been a bit of disconnect between the team and the fans but yesterday he players showed so much fight and desire and passion. It was great to see. Beating Liverpool is always sweet and they are very bitter about it which makes the win even more satisfying.

Jose’s football is not always pretty but you know that he will get results. I’m not getting carried away but I honestly think that he can set us up to manage anybody in the champions league. He knows how to win and I wouldn’t rule is out pulling off a shock in that competition.

The balance of the team was right yesterday. Mctominay came of age and I love seeing rashford succeed. That first goal was incredible. Sanchez hasn’t quite hit the heights we expect but the guy’s workrate is impressive. He is so tenacious and determined and he will eventually come good. We are in the vital business end of the season and for the first time since sir alex has left I have the feeling of excitement. Let’s do the business against Sevilla and Brighton and then let's sort city out in a few weeks.


1.) 11 Mar 2018 17:59:46

Nice post mate, To say Sanchez hasn’t hit the heights is something of an understatement, he has been pants. I thought he was the worst player on the pitch yesterday, he never stopped running and trying but his output was awful, hopefully he will settle soon.

2.) 11 Mar 2018 18:27:39
I agree AJH he is still struggling. Played a lovely ball which mata should have scored off. I think his best position is centrally rather than on the left so I’m not sure how Jose is going to fit in all of our attacking players. G nev touched on it yesterday that mata might be the key for us as he has the composure to link the play and get the back to our forward runners. Sanchez has linked well with him a few times in the last few games so perhaps that is an understanding that can develop.

I actually think Jose Would have been pleased with sanchez’s Performance because he worked very hard and was disciplined in the defensive structure of the team. Just need to get him firing if we want to have any chance of winning the champions league.



09 Mar 2018 11:18:44
1 day until our biggest game of the season. I usually hate the Liverpool game it has rarely been entertaining the last few years and the hype is laughable before the game. Just wanted to see how people would like us to setup up or think how we will setup?

I would like to see us go with 3 at the back because we have looked shaky in a back 4 in recent weeks. A back 3 of bailly, lindelof and Rojo would be ideal but I think smalling will play instead of him. The wing backs are very important for us and would like to see shaw and Valencia there. Mane and Salah are their most dangerous players so pushing our wingbacks higher up the pitch to nullify their wingers would be the best way forward. We would have sufficient protection of the back 3 behind with matic offering further protection.

I would play matic and pogba in a midfield two. I know we have been overrun in games with a two in midfield but with the 3 behind I think we have enough cover. I would would love to see mata play centrally in the no 10 position. He changed the game when he came on and is one of the few players in our team that retains the well. In the big games possession is so important and Sanchez gives it away far too much. However I think Sanchez will start centrally. The front two would be Lukaku and martial however you can make a case for rashford who played well coming on against palace. His desire, pressing and workrate could be key in harrying Liverpool cbs and goalkeeper who is still shaky.

I don’t think Jose will go with this team and expect him to go with a back 4 with young at left back and a midfield 3 with McTominay, similar as against Chelsea. If young plays at left back Salah will tear him to shreds so I really hope Jose doesn’t play him. Liverpool do have weaknesses at their full backs and if we get at them and put the ball in the box to Lukaku there will be opportunities. The key is to involve Lukaku in the game and get him service because he is in a rich vein of form and he is looking a very threatening.

Anyway would love to hear everyone’s view Eds included.


1.) 09 Mar 2018 11:34:42
352 is not a bad shout, like Chelsea at home last season. But one thing is for sure, Young vs Salah will not end well, but then again, i wouldn't have Shaw up against him either, bit of a conundrum. Feeling confident anyhow, 2-1 United!

2.) 09 Mar 2018 12:41:45
I'm predicting a drab nervy game and 2-1 to the scouse.

3.) 09 Mar 2018 13:53:55
I agree on packing the midfield Park.
And I don't think young will be destroyed by Salah. I think people are listening to much to the hype surrounding Liverpool front three and not giving much notice to what our front three can cause them.

4.) 09 Mar 2018 14:03:26
3 nil united. 84% possession and klipperty to be sent off.

5.) 09 Mar 2018 14:33:35
Been on the sauce early ken ;) . AAA I’m unsure about young he showed against spurs as soon as he comes up against decent opposition he struggles. He’s just not a defender. He’s picked because he follows instructions and supposedly has better offensive qualities than shaw. Not saying shaw is amazing because he hasn’t shown that. But young doesn’t get to the bye line and put a ball in. He’s so predictable and always cuts onto his right, often slowing the play down. When he puts a good ball in then it’s usually better than anyone else but he doesn’t do it enough. I think it will be a tight and nutty gritty affair. I’m leaning towards a draw if I’m honest. But interested to see how Jose sets up.

6.) 09 Mar 2018 17:18:48
Jose things young is better than shaw and has favoured him most of the season and young has done ok in the main.
Coleman had a double leg break at least as bad as shaws and he is back playing as well as ever looks in great shape, its a shame shaw has not been able to do the same.

7.) 09 Mar 2018 17:43:31
I want to see how Mendy does for City he has had bad injury as well.




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15 Mar 2018 00:07:41
Dan I think he would jump at the opportunity. As great as spurs have been they won’t ever give Poch the financial platform to compete with the very best. At united he at least has the opportunity to match city spending. Remember we are still Man Utd - one of the biggest clubs in the world. At the end of the day money talks. You pay enough for Poch and sell him a vision then there is every chance he will come. For any manager the opportunity to revive the wounded giant would be an opportunity they would relish. If they don’t then they are not right for us. Simples.




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14 Mar 2018 16:26:43
I would not have simeone although his teams are very hard working and well drilled, he wouldn't be anymore entertaining than jose. Just replacing him with a younger version imo. We have to choose someone that advocates attacking football. That would then be poch, tuchel or jardim.




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10 Mar 2018 09:10:28
Even though pogba has been poor of late Danny, without him in the team there is nobody can pick the ball up from midfield and drive us forwards. Yes Carrick’s passing is very good and he can pick out a pass, but with him and matic there is a serious lack of legs and mobility. I would be tempted to put mata in at 10 if pogba is out as he is the only other person who can play the sort of passes pogba can. I’m very nervous for this game and hearing about pogba has made those nerves ten times worse! Let’s see what Jose has up his sleeve.




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09 Mar 2018 22:05:31
Seen that jred. Would be disastrous if that is the case. He is the only player who can link us from defence to attack. A midfield of McTominay matic and Fellaini/ Carrick is very uninspiring. Let’s see if it is true could be mind games from Jose.




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06 Mar 2018 11:28:36
Great insight as always ed!





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20 Mar 2018 21:41:36
That is a good point Shaps. I’m fully behind the idea of getting a jardim or Tuchel in as I do not think Jose will get us to winning the title or playing attacking football. But the way I look at it is that Jose is not getting the most out of our attacking players, as opposed to the signings being poor or he squad not being good enough. I think Jose has not resolved the pogba and Sanchez conundrum of how to fit them in the team. I like lindelof he is very cultured and able on the ball and needs a run of games. Like you said matic bailly and Lukaku have been a success.

All those players you have mentioned are players who I would consider key first team players. I cannot see any of them getting moved on or not playing an important part under a new manager. What I am getting at is that I think Jose has bought well and much better than his predecessors, but is not getting anywhere near enough creativity and quality out of them. So if Jose was to be given money to spend this summer I would trust him to bring in full backs that were good enough and the midfielders we need. Ok maybe we still won’t play decent football but if he were to leave at the end of next season then the next manager has a much stronger platform and squad to work off. Rather than to come now where we are in a much more shaky position and changing manager would be a disruption.

It’s a very chicken and egg scenario and I know it sounds odd but perhaps it is better to give Jose the money as I think he has bought well and let him finish his rebuild. His issue has not been quality of signings for me it’s been that he has not been able to integrate them successfully into a cohesive team. Whoever takes over will have a very good team imo and it will be his job to get this players playing the style of football we demand. I’m not advocating we keep Jose for years but just allow him to see out his 3 year deal.




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20 Mar 2018 21:18:22
Cracking post red man thanks for sharing and giving an insight into those early days.




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20 Mar 2018 21:04:47
Good post Danny agree with that and good point on shaw getting too much too early. We were fools to pay a teenager £100,000 a week to a kid whose was 18 years old. It’s time for him to grow up quite frankly.

That is a good point actually shappy in terms of shaw clearly not having the mental strength to deal with criticism. I agree some people cannot take criticism as well as others so I appreciate that we do not know how shaw is taking it. I think the club should have cut their losses last summer instead of keeping him when it was clear Jose didn’t want him. It smacks of the board wanting to keep him and hoping he turned good whilst Jose clearly not wanting him.

I’m with you shappy about being unhappy morally at how Jose is there running our club. It is not pretty and I do feel we have sold our soul a little. However, having had time to think and assess the options out there and where we are currently in our rebuilding, it would be naive to sack Jose without giving him the summer and another year to try and get it right. At least when or if he goes in the summer the squad will be more balanced with hopefully some full backs and more of the deadwood stripped from the squad. It’s not pretty but if Jose can get these players to put in some hard graft and man up I will be happier. I agree jose’s Tactics are crap at times but it’s down to the players when it comes to application, hard work and passion on the pitch. Too many players for me are hiding and frankly don’t give a rats arse. These players are being found out and it’s time for Jose to identify and move them on. They are far too comfortable on their lucrative contracts and it’s biting us in the arse with how we have mishandled giving such big contracts out.




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20 Mar 2018 20:38:55
Great post AJH thank you as I am one of the younger posters who was not around in the early 90s or pre Fergie era. My earliest memory is the 99 treble year at the age of 5 years old and my favourite player for a long time was Ruud in the early 2000s. The player two players I wish I got to see live were Cantona and Bryan Robson. My old man idolises Robbo and says he is exactly what we are missing today. I think on the whole sir alex’s Signings were astute as you say and something that stands out to me is that they were not household world class names when they joined us. But they grew into amazing players. One of my favourite signings in the last 10 or so years was henrikh Larson. What a player and he came up with some important goals.




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20 Mar 2018 20:12:33
I disagree shappy I think you are making way more of it than it actually is. At times perhaps Jose has been tougher on shaw but that’s because the lad has immense talent but can’t even stay fit during a season. We do not know what goes on behind the scenes and but I would be pretty confident that Jose has tried everything from putting an arm around him to giving him a kick up the arse. When does enough become enough? This smacks to me as frustration and a final roll of the dice for Jose on trying to provoke a reaction from shaw. And if shaw doesn’t like it then it’s bye bye for me because I’m sick of talking about potential and chances with him. He had a terrible injury but other plays such as Coleman has managed to come back so clearly he does not have the mental strength or drive to make it here.

I’m not supporting or condoning when Jose publicly criticises players because I feel it should usually be dealt with in house. But I am sick of the majority of these players and their attitude. We are on our third manager in 5 years and the common denominator in the failings have been the players. Yes the appointments have been poor and I’m not totally convinced by Jose, but there is a lack of professionalism and winning mentality in this squad. Whether you like Jose or not, or agree with his methods, he is a winner. He has high standards and shaw and other players are not matching those. If that is the case then get rid because we need that ruthlessness back. Sir alex had total respect and fear and maybe it’s going to take for Jose to ruffle a few of these pre madonna’s Feathers to get us challenging again.

Finally, people bring up Rooney being over weight or unfit. I find it ludicrous to compare him with shaw. One player was one of the passionate and hard working players we have had in a while and the other is not. Rooney for all his faults always worked hard, played with passion and wanted to win. Although shaw has played well when he has been given an opportunity, he doesn’t even show an ounce of commitment that Rooney did for us. 3 managers have said these comments about shaw and I think it is time to accept that it is best he moves in for both parties. Yes we may regret it if he turns it on for spurs or whoever. But there is no way in hell he's going to make it here and I am quite frankly sick and tired of discussing his potential when he doesn’t have the professionalism to even keep fit.