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03 Aug 2018 08:00:50
Morning everyone
Long time fan of the site, haven't posted enough so thought it's about time. when asked to pick an all time greatest united 11 it's normally relatively easy. Pick class of 92 mixed with a few others. However the hardest part was picking a goalkeeper.
So my question is: who is uniteds greatest goalkeeper?
The Great Dane Peter schmiechel was arguably the best in the world during his years at United, pulled of several fantastic saves and was a commanding presence in the area.
Edwin van der sar was unbelievable for us especially after the rather average keepers we had before him, it's disappointing we didn't sign him 4-5 years earlier such was his contribution to us.
David de gea is now undeniably the best keeper in the world and has saved us so many points in recent seasons, his progression from shaky in commanding decent shot stopper to best in the world and first name on the team sheet is remarkable.
So opinions which 1 would you pick? Personally I'd go with de gea purely on the number of times he's saved us but it's such a tough decision.
1.) 03 Aug 2018 08:28:35
It's Schmeichel for me and I barely had to think about it.
2.) 03 Aug 2018 08:34:30
I always go on Schmeichel, he absolutely dominated that box, made all kinds of saves, started attacks off and was a leader on the pitch, gave out a rollicking when needed plus I think because he was there, an unknown at first during our first period of success.
3.) 03 Aug 2018 08:58:53
Big pete. Followed jointly by vds and ddg.
4.) 03 Aug 2018 08:59:08
Big Pete for me too. Real leader on the pitch scared the rubbish out of attackers and even scored.
5.) 03 Aug 2018 12:40:25
It's close but I would go for Edwin Van Der Sar.
DDG is a great goalkeeper and probably the best in the world at the moment. However, questions still remain about how he dominates/ controls the penalty area. If this was based on shot stopping he would be top.
The romantic in me wants to go with big Pete, he was incredible. Totally dominated the area, phenomenal in one on ones. However, he was a great shot at for his size. His size was a massive advantage when it came to scaring the crap out of the opposition, and helped massively in the way he dominated his box and in those one on ones. Yet it made it hard for him to enjoy that longevity at the height of his powers. It also ment he wasn't as good a shot stopper as the other two.
Edwin in my opinion is massively underrated by our fans.
At his peak he was every bit as good a shop stopper as DDG. He expertly controlled his area, he helped Ajax win the UCL, he helped us to 3 finals in 4 years.
Personally I always prefer a flexible intelligent goalkeeper over a hulking beast. Buffon over Khan every day of the week. In today's game of lighter balls, that move quicker and are less predictable those reactions and ability to change direction quickly are far more important than the ability to bowl over half the opposition when claiming a cross. Which of course no one is really allowed to challenge you for.
In today's game if you dropped VDS and Pete at the height of their powers into a match VDS's skillset and ability would make him the better more useful goalkeeper.
6.) 03 Aug 2018 13:24:31
Shappy, good point about Schmeich’s intimidation factor and for me that’s what makes him the best. He was enormous and I think he scared the crap out of most forwards, even 1 on 1s, they’d look up and see this man mountain bearing down on them. He was also incredibly vocal and a huge personality. I take the point about the modern game but I’d still take Schmeichel over the others today.
7.) 03 Aug 2018 16:48:07
Schmeichel is the best GK I have ever seen .
His shot stopping first class
Distribution first class
Commanded his box
Excellent on crosses
Excellent on 1 on 1s
Organised his defence .
Intimidated the opposition .
Had everything.
8.) 03 Aug 2018 17:08:32
Jred, good po Not, I forgot to me tiThe j that his throwing was better and more accurate than most others’ kicking.
9.) 03 Aug 2018 22:21:47
Guys this a silly conversation in my opinion.
Big Pete had everything both VDS and De Gea have/ had and more. He made unbelievable saves, excellent 1 on 1, would pick balls out of the air one handed with half a dozen players around him and then throw the ball half way down the pitch more accurately than half our players could now do with their feet. All that as well as towering over opposition players physically and vocally.
VDS had a great if not our greatest defence in front of him, and De Gea has had years of development to get where he is now without true competition.
It is a reflection of the size of our club that these conversations can take place, that we can compare 3 players who played for us at different times where each could be regarded as best in the world at the time.
But Schmeichel was the best and from day one we knew he was.
14 May 2018 19:13:24
Anyone noticed that our 2008 side doesn't seem to get many mentions when compared to the current city side or the invincibles. Would personally take our 84 point haul and a premier league and champions league double over either of those sides.
1.) 14 May 2018 20:08:33
Yes on 08 and also our 99 side and probably the 94 one but hyperbole and the urge to not have United as the best of anything gets in front of this. Ignore, they only won one league title, if they get three in a row they have achieved something, double it with the Champions League and they then can be talked about in more exalted company.
2.) 14 May 2018 20:39:43
I heard a City fan in the radio saying they were the best Premier League team ever. They broke some records but let’s see how much stamina they have. I’d take our ‘94 or ‘99 teams to do them, probably the ‘08 as well.
3.) 14 May 2018 21:33:16
Yeah I’ve noticed this, like we didn’t domaine for a decade or more ain’t it.
4.) 14 May 2018 23:08:13
99 maybe .
Truth is how many times did fergy do pep? I feel sick.
5.) 15 May 2018 07:31:13
Less times than jose.
12 May 2018 17:41:32
If we win the league next season playing the Jose way are fans going to complain about the style still? Whilst the days of attacking free flowing football under sir Alex were fantastic times have changed and our maybe it proves how much of a genius the man was to play that style of football whilst continually getting the best out of the players at his disposal. Pep wouldn't of done any better with the money available and rebuilding job needed, 2/ 3 trophies in 2 seasons is better than anything we have achieved since fergie and the same or potentially more trophies than the "genius" pep, klopp or poch. The one thing I agree we need is a better mentality in the games against smaller clubs.
1.) 12 May 2018 22:48:15
You really think we'll win the league playing the way we have this season?
2.) 13 May 2018 00:07:19
If we play the same way as this season nobody will notice whether we win anything because we will either be doing something else more interesting like mowing our lawns or we will have fallen asleep.
01 Feb 2019 17:38:37
Totally agree, the mentality needed at a top club is different as well, ole is doing well as he has the experience of playing in the big games and winning them. Poch doesn’t seems happy to be in the tournaments which isn’t what Utd are about.
26 Jan 2019 13:15:50
Try being on Twitter, there’s loads of Utd fans like that.