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18 Oct 2019 07:02:23
Interesting seeing photos of Pogba and Zidane meet in Dubai and apparently chat for 10 mins, a coincidence meeting on the beach.

Red Man

1.) 18 Oct 2019 07:34:54
I couldn't care less. Le Sulk can move to RM. I doubt we would notice he had left.


2.) 18 Oct 2019 08:54:50
We need quality but we also need 100% commitment from everyone. The reason we are in this mess is the lack of desire and pride for the shirt. Pogbas a good player but doesn't have the mentality we need. Time to go.


3.) 18 Oct 2019 12:24:27
Yh i agree if our new recruitment plan under ole is to bring in players with limited technical ability and do their best work off the ball but with more passion and work rate then pogba doesn't really fit in.


4.) 18 Oct 2019 14:04:23
I like to try and be more realistic in what I expect from footballers. I don't expect them to have an undying love and passion for the club, that's the fans job.
If they do then that's a bonus.

What I expect is for a footballer to be professional, as that is what they are, professionals.

I expect them to work hard, look to develop their skills and be committed to the team. They don't need to love the club.

But they need to respect their position, they need to respect their team mates and they need to respect their manager and coaches.

Without seeing how Pogba is in training it is hard to say if he is showing that. Yet his on field performances are often inconsistent at best which suggests he isn't working as hard as he should be. He has all the talent to be a top player, but does he have the drive and application?

If he wants to be elsewhere, then fine. I won't hold a grudge, but he needs to being working hard for his team mates or eventually they will turn against him.

I think Ed002 was right on the money again with Pogba, his career belongs in Spain or back in Italy. Yet with Juventus having 7 midfielders on the books (Ramesey, Pjanic, Khedira, Can, Raboit, Matuidi and Bentancur) I don't see a place for him unless several leave. Real Madrid's interest seems to stem from Zidane, who himself might not be there all that much longer with Jose apparently a possible replacement. His options might be growing thin. With Barcelona having recently signed Frenkie De Jong and Arthur, they are unlikely to look to spend the 150m+ it would take to bring him in, plus they have wage limitations unless they can shift one or two big earners. Ultimately PSG might be the best possible escape route for him. With both Real Madrid and Barcelona circling for Mbappe and Neymar respectively PSG might have some funds to reinvest and they have shown an appetite to try and bring in some of the best French players in the world.

So, I feel PSG might be the place he ends up next, either that or he will sign a new increased long term deal with us.


5.) 18 Oct 2019 14:34:03
you can count on one hand the number of top performances pogba has produced for us. you can say its because of the talent around him but i don't think that's totally accurate. Pogba has immense talent, however there are games where he doesn't even do the simple things well (pass to a team mate, control the ball, track a runner) . like the above post i don't expect him to die for the shirt but I expect him to put a shift in. Our problem is that our players are either short on talent, high on workrate or high on talent and short on effort.

This may all be a result of him being demoralised and wanting to leave, thus affecting his performances. whatever the reason a move away may be best for all parties.


6.) 18 Oct 2019 20:23:51
The reality is Pobga has no support around him, literally nothing. We play mostly rubbish football, I'm not shocked he doesn't enjoy himself. We have 4 average midfielders that create nothing/ do anything to support him. Pobga, as he has shown with France and Juve, with quality players around him, he is also a quality player. We are a team devoid of forward talent, quality or movement, or tactical knowledge form the sideline.

I implore anyone to play midfield in a team like this and excel as a creative player. It just doesn't happen at the highest level. Yeah he has rubbish games, yeah his good ones are not frequent enough but he is still the only one of those midfielders that comes close to being on an high level (couldn't consider him world class or elite) .


7.) 18 Oct 2019 20:33:01
That's the thing MrGoodKat, he has played better at Juventus and with France. Yet, he has been just as inconsistent with both his previous club and his national side.


8.) 18 Oct 2019 20:58:24
I agree, he goes missing - but he is still clearly the best midfielder we have, and the sad thing is, it's by a long way. It's good to see McTominay play for the shirt but lacks any real quality (in terms of what we expect a Man Utd player to be), Matic lacks mobility and any real influence on the game and Fred lacks everything technical about a footballer.

I disagree with the "Pogba doesn't track back etc" complaints. What I really want from him is to create something, get on the ball, run forward. Play to strengths and not square pegs round holes situation. I want United to but some players that have a dedicated position in the front 4. To be able to say, with confidence that this is the best player to play Striker or Right Wing or Attacking Mid.


9.) 19 Oct 2019 07:56:16
That's the annoying thing with Pogba, he isn't just our most talented midfielder by a long way. He has more talent than 95% of all midfielders anywhere.

He does track back, but he is even more inconsistent with his defensive work than he is with his more expansive and creative work. My issue is even when he does track back he doesn't do so with any purpose. He jogs back and never looks like he is going to attempt to put a tackle or a block in.

The fact that over his time at United he averages 0.8 tackles per game shows his lack of desire to do the dirty work.

To be honest I'm not too bothered about that. Not all midfielders need to be crunching in tackles. What disappoints me with Pogba is that he at 27 is still so inconsistent with the parts of the game he does enjoy. His passing, shooting and chance creation some games is world class, while woeful in others.

He reminds me a bit of Nani, a player on his day is unplayable and will win you games on his own. However, "his day" might only be one game a month, in the others he is distinctly average.


 

 

15 Oct 2019 06:38:15
There have been rumours for a few days that Kevin, one of the Glazers was selling up, that he had swapped his B voting shares for A shares. I was told a couple of days ago the B shares can't be sold. Now there are reports in the main press that Kevin Glazer has transferred his 13% to A shares and is looking to sell. According to the press several others want to sell up too. Hopefully it is the beginning of the end of them, although it is said two of the family don't want to sell.

Red Man

1.) 15 Oct 2019 07:20:27
Yeah Red Man.
Multiple news channels reporting the same.


2.) 15 Oct 2019 07:37:48
I would not be surprised if they are selling to family? Maybe someone wants more power?


3.) 15 Oct 2019 12:02:01
So how does this work then? If the individual share holders sell up and shares are sold on the stock market, how will that change anything in the future? Won't the shareholders just keep getting dividends? How is that any different to how it is now?


4.) 15 Oct 2019 13:36:41
Nothing actually concrete has happened redman, 1 guy is selling but it just means more control over utd for the other glazers.


5.) 15 Oct 2019 16:55:43
If one's had enough then its a start.


6.) 15 Oct 2019 18:02:04
Apparently being denied now. ☹️.


 

 

08 Oct 2019 10:40:04
Rumour, The morale in the dressing room is at the lowest for the past ten months with observers claiming there is a lack of energy which is 'sapping' spirits at Carrington.

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1.) 08 Oct 2019 12:25:02
Love it Bond.


2.) 08 Oct 2019 15:17:04
you could see how bad the morale is in david de gea, s interview after sundays game.


3.) 08 Oct 2019 18:11:02
Dea gea was right though we can't even score.

We have a decent defence but that's what were relying on to get us points

The midfield and attack have to step up.


I'm still amused as to why we keep playing possession football. let the other teams have the ball then break.

We have speed up top but we are not using are best assets atm.


4.) 09 Oct 2019 06:16:56
He is rightfully disgusted.
We are short of a prolific goal scorer.


5.) 09 Oct 2019 19:12:58
TrueRedDevil, i would give my left nut just for a goal scorer. Both for a prolific one!


6.) 12 Oct 2019 15:50:37
Poor comment un an interview from DDG. He would have better saying that when the team isn't scoring there is more pressure on saving shots like the Newcastle one.


 

 

24 Sep 2019 06:35:17
So the leaks begin. Apparently some players harbour reservations over Kieran McKenna having such a key role in first-team training little more than a year after being promoted from the Under 18s. His sessions are thought by some to be more suited to the academy

There are also questions why there are so many non contact injuries having supposedly used pre season to get the players into peak fitness, questions why the lethargy when they are fit, what did Phil Jones and Woodward really say despite the denials.

This isn't going to end well everyone.

Red Man

1.) 24 Sep 2019 12:46:00
Dont rub your hands too much, you'll get friction burns.


2.) 24 Sep 2019 13:18:39
Where are these leaks red man? I’ve not seen them (not saying what you’re saying is false btw would like to read them) but then surely they’d be saying the same of Carrick. Then again we heard these rumours in pre season and they soon disappeared.


3.) 24 Sep 2019 17:10:57
The Daily Mail. I read it myself, today, and knew you'd pick up on it Red Man 😁 Mind you, I had to take a long shower after reading it.


4.) 24 Sep 2019 17:56:10
Daily Fail? lol.


5.) 24 Sep 2019 18:24:19
I was getting my hair done, TRD 😁.


6.) 25 Sep 2019 07:54:04
I heard that Phil Jones said 'poor' unsure whether he was talking about a refereeing decision or his teammates (he should be) and Ed turned round and said 'quiet, we are on camera' that's just one story.

As for McKenna, I think the media are loving a United in crisis story so will push anything, wouldn't wprry too much on McKenna.

What I do worry about is why year after year we have so many injuries, it seems to have been every season since van Gaal, perhaps even Moyes time, I dunno if we have players nowadays more like athletes and break down easier or the stricter training we have now is too much for some, no idea.

Was thinking about Martial this morning, he is always injured, can never get a run of games out of him, and he is probably the most key player in the way Ole wants to counter attack, I see a long season of inconsistent results and performances ahead, I can live with that if we see the desire in the players, I have seen that except at west ham which worries me.

Arsenal at home next is probably the perfect fixture to get that desire back and a win wouldn't shock me, hopefully we have some players back for this one.

Saving grace at the moment is Chelsea and Spurs are having equally as bad starts and a win over the gunners keeps us on pace for 4th.

I've said it all along since they sacked Moyes and I'll say it again, we must stick by a manager, we cannot carry on chopping and changing managers, backroom teams, players and playing style, that's why we are in such a mess, it's not going to be pretty for a good while yet but the 3 lads he's brought in are the right type of player, he needs more windows to bring in more players that fits what Ole wants, it's going to take time.

I now hear 'oh we've spent £900m' yes, Ole has had 1 window, the rest is past and we are on a new path, one the club and fans must stick too.


7.) 25 Sep 2019 09:02:25
Welsh

We need to get the right manager to stick behind, not the failed Cardiff one.


8.) 25 Sep 2019 09:41:46
By the way there are now more rumours of players feeling training is uninspiring and old fashioned.


9.) 25 Sep 2019 10:43:54
Ole was appointed and is our manager so therefore he is the right one and we have to get behind him and the club needs to give him the funds and time to build a squad. Everyone is too impatient, can't rebuild a squad in his model in 1 window, will be a few more windows by we see the squad he ideally wants.


10.) 25 Sep 2019 12:06:39
Red man I’d pay no attention to those rumours. Always an attempt to find a problem wrong with everything. As ed001 said when results are good training is fine, when bad it’s rubbish. It’s the same with any job, it things aren’t going well in the office or wherever you work it’s not great but a good week or few days and it’s a different outlook.


11.) 26 Sep 2019 06:55:11
Caolin

What we are seeing on the pitch is a result of what is happening on the training pitch.


12.) 26 Sep 2019 09:59:30
Uninspiring training? Give me a break. They should be inspired to play and win trophies for Man Utd. Knuckle down, do what your boss is asking of you and make an impact on the pitch.


13.) 26 Sep 2019 11:15:01
Red man

I don’t think anyone can say definitively unless we are on the training pitch. Do you think Rojo is instructed to shoot on sight once he crosses halfway?


14.) 27 Sep 2019 09:37:10
It was exactly the same under Jose. I remember asking several times back then, what exactly did they do in training all week, because once they crossed the line, they looked like eleven strangers.


 

 

29 Aug 2019 12:35:26
I have heard a rumour that the club are gearing up to start improvements to the South Stand next year. However, the same rumour is that the land around OT has been bought not by United or our present owners but by a Middle Eastern connection. That is all I have heard but this is a rumour site.

Red Man

1.) 29 Aug 2019 14:34:29
Thanks for sharing red man. Very interesting.


2.) 29 Aug 2019 15:36:37
Great rumour Red Man, you can’t beat a good rumour.

Check out the Spurs site for a great Poch rumour In reply to a question I asked.


3.) 29 Aug 2019 16:23:08
Very good AJH. Looking into the neighbours house and thinking everything is rosey isn't necessarily the case.


4.) 29 Aug 2019 16:45:11
Wouldn't the ownership of the ground be public knowledge? There should be a way to check this up.


5.) 29 Aug 2019 18:06:49
LovelyLudwigVan

It said land around the ground. If you know the area the railway is right behind the South stand, there is a station there but behind that are houses and a street. The ground is the clubs and some land around it but no idea which bits.


6.) 29 Aug 2019 18:48:22
Yeah it's long been an issue, if I'm not mistaken Railway Rd is where they'd need to buy the houses, and they'd need to find a solution for the rail tracks. I just thought property owners, at least of non-residential buildings would be information available to the public. I remember reading that the costs to expand the stadium would be as much as building a new one, which will probably continue delaying any work.


7.) 29 Aug 2019 23:27:01
What was said AJH? i can't seem to find anything on the spurs page.


8.) 30 Aug 2019 07:21:03
DH click on Spurs banter.


9.) 30 Aug 2019 10:38:12
Hi All,

on the South stand situation.

The land is owned by the railway as is the bridge/ walkway from Railway road into the stadium.

I have friends who live on Railway road and they have not been contacted by anyone with regards to selling up.

In fact Jay (the City Fan) lives on the right of the bridge some 4-7 doors down (not giving his address. lol)

His place would be one of the houses directly impacted by development.

He'd been previously advised regrading the improvements when they were first put up for public review. although the extension would encompass the actual railway the physical building would be bridged over to form a covered station/ platform. It wouldn't require any of the houses to be bought unless it is found to cause irreparable damage to the property through ground disturbance.

Sunlight and shade is said to be of concern however due to the angle of the road they would still get a lot of light in the rear gardens.

Monk.


10.) 31 Aug 2019 06:54:36
Wow good info monk 👍.


 

 

 

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01 Dec 2019 11:08:01
Today's game against a newly promoted team should mean a win for us, 3-1 would feel about right, yet something is making me think 2-2 draw. Whatever, it will be interesting to see 3 players. Firstly McGinn who we supposedly had an interest in, decent player but not sure he would be worth the big money. Secondly, Grealish, interesting player who is creative, watched him last week, always looking for angles into the box behind defenders. Lastly, Mings, I commented on him in May when I watched him talk Tuanzebe through the play off game, looked commanding and worth £25m they spent. Should be a win today with two tough games coming up, many teams bunched up from 5th down, no excuses today.

Red Man

1.) 01 Dec 2019 11:40:28
Redman, i think it would be a 3-0 to us. Just get a feeling. Fred with the hat trick.

I better wake up now, too much dreaming for the day.


2.) 01 Dec 2019 11:47:20
This is a huge game for everyone involved. If Ole is to survive the next few weeks, we need 3 points on the board today. There's comments like "Ole hasn't lost the dressing room". He may not have lost it but I would question the players commitment to him. We're constantly out fought week in week out. Teams smell blood in the water and we're normally really slow to react in games.

Let's see will the players react today. Their boss is under huge pressure with the next 4 games shaping the rest of his Man Utd career. 50/ 50s, second balls, tracking back, all the basics when you are in a dog fight are non existant in our team.

A good performance here will provide a great platform going into the Spurs game. They are on a high with Jose but are still vulnerable. City's heads may also be gone knowing that the lead they've surrendered to Liverpool is almost insurmountable.

If Ole can navigate the next 4 games ending with Everton and chalk up 9/ 10 points, I feel that may be the turning point for him as our manager. If we come up on his one year anniversary as our manager and we're languishing in 15th, then I think it's curtains for the man.

I know there's been a split in the community here and we're all down each other's throats the last few months. Remember, we all want the same thing, for United to be back on top. Let's hope the tide shifts for this group and we can get a bit of momentum going.

No excuses, nowhere to hide. Get the job done and then onto Spurs!


3.) 01 Dec 2019 20:27:39
Got the lotto numbers for Tuesday Red Man? 😂😂😂.


4.) 01 Dec 2019 20:31:44
Eric

Not a bad guess huh!


5.) 01 Dec 2019 21:22:56
Red Man

You are a prophet.

Uncannily accurate.

What are next week's lottery numbers?


 

 

16 Nov 2019 21:30:05
Forgive me but maybe the red wine has caused confusion

Solskjaer was the manager of Haaland at Molde? Yes. Then why do we need to send a scout to watch him? Genuine question.

Red Man

1.) 16 Nov 2019 22:07:12
Valid point Red man. Maybe it's part of the recruitment process, where a report etc has to be written.

Perhaps to monitor his progress etc and see if he has what it takes, as he is playing in the Austrian league.


2.) 16 Nov 2019 22:15:11
Maybe because the club are moving away from one man making all the transfer decisions.

I would imagine the club would be looking to compete some form of due diligence with a scouting procedure that is a little more than just asking a current employee if he thinks he's good enough.


3.) 17 Nov 2019 09:03:30
OGS has never made a transfer decision that's why red man.


4.) 17 Nov 2019 10:05:05
Apparently it is all down to recruitment process. Scouts etc have veto’s on players too. This is from listening to a few guys on the athletic talking so it could we be wrong. So that would make sense if he was being heavily scouted now.


5.) 17 Nov 2019 11:14:11
What about the latest rumour that Mourinho vetoed Maguire for 60m as he didn't feel he was worth anymore than 50m.
Well the club ultimately paid 80m for him, so did Mourinho cost the club an extra 20m and a year without Harry Maguire?
What do people make of it?


6.) 17 Nov 2019 12:46:21
No harm doing some due diligence on the player while the window is closed. It doesn't matter though. You could have Batistuta up top and he'd struggle to get goals. Without a proper number 10 we're going to continue to struggle.


7.) 17 Nov 2019 12:59:01
I agree with Mourinho and Maguire isn't a 80 mill player although he is better then Smalling and Jones but not the best of defender imo.

I think it a matter of improving our team and Maguire has done that but i still don't see an wow moment from him.


8.) 17 Nov 2019 15:30:14
I agree with Mumbles. Batistuta would struggle to scorengoals in this team.

Mind you, he is 50 now 😂.


9.) 17 Nov 2019 16:08:24
Why would a manager get involved in club finances
And veto transfer due to price?


10.) 17 Nov 2019 16:15:25
Betty, I won't have the great Batigol's name sullied. We'd have another 10 champions league wins under our belt if we signed him in the 90s.


11.) 17 Nov 2019 16:50:01
Shappy

If United could have bought Maguire for £20m less a year earlier, then someone lost the club £20m. How convenient when this loss is highlighted, that “rumours” blame the former manager. No one still at United is therefore at fault, Phew.

Mourinho made many noises about getting a defender, why would he care what the cost was.


12.) 17 Nov 2019 16:50:32
If we went ahead and bought this lad, solely on the manager's say-so, you'd be the first on here complaining about the shocking state of our scouting network, lack of due-diligence, buying players on the opinion of a mediocre manager, etc etc etc.


13.) 17 Nov 2019 17:53:29
Maybe it's because the lad played under ole a while back .
Is now playing in a different league with different players.
Or that things can change quickly for example the lad is currently in the form of his life .
Or maybe if you where about to spend a reported £80 mill on a player you would look in to it a bit . And not just blow that amount of cash, on " yer decent lad played 20 odd games for me last year "?


14.) 18 Nov 2019 11:24:39
I don't think Haland had made his debut for the Senior National team while Ole was at Molde. Scouting him at the national senior level would be something new.

With regard to mou and wanting defenders, You simply don't splash cash on 2 defenders and a year later you say u need to to sign another apparently because the 2 are not cutting it. What is the probability that the 3rd option would make a difference?


15.) 18 Nov 2019 11:51:55
Red Man, I actually agree. I don't think Mourinho would care how much a player costing he thought he would improve his chances of winning something.

Just really highlighting that things in the media need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Maybe we are scouting Haaland, maybe we aren't.

However, if the club want to buy him then I would expect him to be fully scouted, and all due diligence done seeing as our success rate with signings over the past 6 years has been suspect at best.

Did the club sign Matic and Lukaku based solely on José's input? Maybe that's why they now scout the managers choice of player based on their views of having managed them before.


 

 

09 Nov 2019 19:14:30
Just watching Leicester and much credit will go to Maddison, but was anyone else impressed by Harvey Barnes?

Red Man

1.) 10 Nov 2019 09:39:18
He's looked good since last season.


 

 

24 Oct 2019 13:05:52
Phil Jones was given a new contract in Feb 19

Ole said:

"Phil knows what it takes to be a Manchester United player. He has won the Premier League, FA Cup and Europa League and is now one of the senior players within the team.

"He is coming up to his 27th birthday and entering into his prime years as a centre-half. We are delighted Phil has committed his future to the club. "

Eulogies are being given to OGS for approving buying 3 players in summer. How has OGS developed Phil Jones?

Red Man

1.) 24 Oct 2019 13:20:52
Same question for Van Gaal and mourinho mate. If a new contract is given you don’t want the coach saying “he’s rubbish but he’s staying”.


2.) 24 Oct 2019 13:33:54
Exactly Caolan.
What is the manager supposed to say?
"I'm delighted to announce Phil Jones has extended his contract to continue to fully access the medical facility? "


3.) 24 Oct 2019 13:42:27
Redman pay no attention to what he says.


4.) 24 Oct 2019 14:02:05
Oh Red man, you do like a little hyperbole, I'd say you almost like it as much as you like trawling through old articles to try and find a new angle to hate on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

As TrueRedDevil says, what exactly is Ole supposed to say when asked about a new contract given to a player?

How has Ole developed Jones? Well he hasn't, but then how much more room for growth does he have? Can he stay fit long enough to learn.

The only thing Ole does appear to have realised with Jones is his value is in his knowledge and not on the pitch. If only a few of his predecessors had realised that then maybe they wouldn't have persisted in playing Jones every time he was fit.


5.) 24 Oct 2019 14:18:36
Why do people insist on quoting managers/ players when they're talking to the media, to try and prove a point? THEY MEAN NOTHING! I've never used caps lock on social media before, which shows how frustrating it is!

{Ed047's Note - sorry Nou, can you speak up, I can’t hear you? 😉😁


6.) 24 Oct 2019 14:54:09
Coming soon, next time United get a decent result and we can't bash Ole for legitimate football reasons, some old tat about Ole not stopping to help an old lady cross the road in 1996.

Or possibly that time he drove at 31mph in a 30 zone.

Or maybe how he cheated at Scrabble. He swore blind it was a Norwegian word, how can we possibly trust him.


7.) 24 Oct 2019 17:21:47
Oh I thought he was being lauded for clearing all the poor players out, not giving new contracts then not playing them!


8.) 24 Oct 2019 17:28:31
Shappy mate you don't half post a load of bolloxology 😂
Ed047 editing this must be painful. If you extract all the BS from some posts they would only be 10 words long 😂.


9.) 24 Oct 2019 17:37:01
Go on Red Man, I'll bite. Which of the players that have left the club under Ole do you feel should have been kept for their long term worth to the team?

Who do you feel still at the club deserves a start over the players currently playing? Matic? Mata? Jones? Good players to have around for experience, but not in your first team every week. Unless you disagree of course?


10.) 24 Oct 2019 18:04:42
A goal scoring centre forward was allowed to leave the club without a replacement. Ok his first touch was not so good but he scored goals and was a threat. There have been very mixed messages as to why but not replacing him was on Ole’s watch. Herrera was a shocking decision, again not replaced.

As to Matic, Mata and Jones, they appear to have been retained but totally ostracised at a time when our squad is threadbare.


11.) 24 Oct 2019 18:44:57
The club's replacements were available, if the club's first, second and third choice is unavailable what would you suggest?

We could have signed Schneiderlin to replace Herrera, or Falcao to replace Lukaku. But I thought the whole point of progress is not to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Ole has stated he wanted to keep Herrera, yet Herrera had decided to leave as he didn't feel the club valued him by taking so long to give him a new deal. That's fair enough I suppose.

Lukaku wanted to leave and was pushing to leave. Would you have suggested keeping him against his will. And unhappy player who was not first choice and didn't suit the style we want to see.

I agree both needed replacing, but surely you agree it would be better to wait until the right players are available rather than spunking another 900m on players who aren't good enough?


12.) 24 Oct 2019 19:42:39
Shappy, surely you don't move them on until you have a replacement.

Like never quit your job until you have a new one.


13.) 24 Oct 2019 20:27:31
Shappy

If we are mid table or worse, battling relegation this season would you still defend not replacing key players or acknowledge the manager actually did make mistakes?


14.) 24 Oct 2019 20:29:47
Shappy is a student angel they don't do jobs😂😂😂.


15.) 24 Oct 2019 21:00:32
Happy, we can all be selective in what we post to back up our opinions. RedMan just chooses do so it about Ole.

By the way, you never did reply to my post about crosses being 'pointless'. Conveniently timed holiday, I believe?


16.) 24 Oct 2019 21:33:47
Or Shappy even!


17.) 24 Oct 2019 22:15:19
Angel that depends on the situation. I have had to sack people without s replacement waiting in the wings.

If a player doesn't want to be at the club and he is causing grief behind the scenes then you are best off without them.

In football where you either have to find a buyer or wait until a players contact runs out or cancel it. This becomes even harder. Inter were the only team prepared to pay anywhere near what we wanted for him, if we kept him they would have bought someone else and we could run the risk of being stuck with an unhappy player or sell at considerably less than we wanted to.

I feel as fans we tend to oversimplify running a football club.

Red man, who made the mistake not bringing a replacement in, does Ole negotiate the deals?

Betty, I never hide from a question. I was on holiday from the 4th until the 14th of September in northern Italy, I can show you the pictures if you want. So I don't actually know what your on about. If you want to ask me again now I will give you an answer.


18.) 24 Oct 2019 22:37:10
Why can’t we have a bloody day without having to push rubbish about mangers etc. So repetitive, same sticks being used. Are people not getting bored of it? I think at this stage everyone knows everyone’s view point, yet we keep regurgitating the same stuff.

So let me say this, Brandon Williams was very impressive tonight, hopefully more to come and great seeing him and garner, two academy lads holding their own in a hostile environment tonight. More of the same, and let’s hope for another win at the weekend.


19.) 24 Oct 2019 23:18:14
I don't need to see the pictures Shappy, thanks. It's a we'll know fact that Italy doesn't have the internet yet mate.

If I can find it in the archives I will try to re-post it on the discussions page.


20.) 25 Oct 2019 00:15:47
Williams was very good again tonight.
Best lb at the club based on what I've seen. Young is past it dalot is better on the right and shaw has never fulfilled the potential he had for one reason or another.


21.) 25 Oct 2019 01:35:41
He's played one full game. Let's not get carried away.


22.) 25 Oct 2019 03:18:53
Good to see Williams and Garner getting some minutes and doing well.
Well done lads!


23.) 25 Oct 2019 04:15:48
Shappy the situation at man United is we are one of the biggest clubs in the world. It was mind numbingly dumb not to replace him.

Was Lukaku causing grief behind the scenes? It didn't seem that way to us towards the end of the year. He's even on record saying he didn't want to leave. He didn't look like he wanted to leave when playing either, one thing you can't say about him is that he didn't give it his all out there. I thought the club treated him v poorly in the end.

Also you love to give OGS credit for moving on and bringing in players but on this particular occasion it's not his fault. make up your mind.


24.) 25 Oct 2019 06:00:48
Williams was great considering it was just his second start.
AWB I feel doesn't offer much in attack as full back in 3-5-2.
He can be used as RCB in this system.


25.) 25 Oct 2019 06:55:05
Angelred

Spot on about Lukaku, looked like OGS didn’t want him to me, but not replacing him and then being unable to score goals on the back of that decision, taking us near the bottom of the league, is frankly disgraceful

I also look forward to the Shappy dissertation on last nights game, on how it was uplifting and so much better than, for example the away win at Juventus a year ago, just because we have someone in charge who “gets” United. I will try to read it all.


26.) 25 Oct 2019 08:34:39
This is stating to sound like a teenage girl bitch-fest site. Not that I've ever been on one, of course.


27.) 25 Oct 2019 08:43:46
Don't people ever get tired saying the same thing over and over again?


28.) 25 Oct 2019 10:07:17
Steve those sites are more fun at times.


 

 

22 Oct 2019 06:59:17
Looking at the weekend ahead. I am not sure the game is a decider but no matter what slant people put on it, it is a relegation battle. Norwich, who are our new rivals, presently sitting in the bottom three, will be up for it. Expect similar tactics from us as at home v Liverpool but twisted slightly not the same. I expect Martial to play and us to go back to 4231. I wonder if the tactician will try 541 again if leading 1 nil?

At least there are some positives, those below us have either tough games or play each other. Southampton play Leicester which won't be easy, Newcastle play an improving Wolves, Brighton and Everton play each other. Therefore quick maths say regardless of the result we shouldn't drop into the bottom three which is good news.

Red Man

1.) 22 Oct 2019 07:11:44
It's all about confidence and luck for Utd. The players should be more confident after their performance against Liverpool.

When you look at the table were only 9 points behind Man City, 7 points behind Chelsea. If we can find out form and get a good run going. Things will change quite quickly.

Norwich are no push overs. I wonder whether OGS will stick to this new formation, including in the Europa league.


2.) 22 Oct 2019 10:12:27
The worrying thing Is, we played well. Our performance has been praised. That was us playing above our normal standard and that was Liverpool having one of their worst games in a long time and we still drew.

Form goes out the window in games like that but we're getting players back, also some confidence. Norwich, Bournemouth, Brighton, Sheffield United and Villa in our next 5 league games. We should be taking a minimum of 12 points. Anything below 9 and the penny will never drop for Ole.


3.) 22 Oct 2019 10:35:03
Mumbles,

We nullified Liverpool. We pinned back their full backs. Yet you say its because Liverpool had an off day. When you stop a team from playing their style if football, that is exactly what happens.

Dont forget AWB had just come back from being injured, plus Tuanzebe was injured in the warm up. Pogba is out. Shaw is out. Martial has just come back.

With a little bit of luck, we can quite easily climb up the table.


4.) 22 Oct 2019 11:46:03
I think you may see the same formation deployed more often, as it pushes everyone higher up the pitch and allows our strikers come wingers to be used effectively:

De Gea
(Romero)

Lindelof. Maguire. Rojo.
(Tuanzebe) . (Bailly) . (Jones)


Wan Bissaka. Pogba. Matic. Shaw
(Dalot) . (McTomminay) . (Fred) . (Young)


Lingard
(Periera)

Martial. Rashford
(Greenwood) . (James)

Other:
Gomes
Chong
Grant (GK)
Garner
Williams.


5.) 22 Oct 2019 12:23:03
Why would Rojo, Matic and Lingard be starters with Tuanzebe, McTominay and James on the bench?

McTom and James have been two of our best players this season, and Rojo is a liability.


6.) 22 Oct 2019 12:37:52
Its just an example Danny.


7.) 22 Oct 2019 14:00:44
I think Tuanzebe is better than Lindelof. If we play 4 at the back I would have him in ahead of Lindelof every time. I don't rate Lindelof, he's slow, gets pushed off the ball far to easy and isn't that good in the air.


8.) 22 Oct 2019 14:12:10
Lindelof is not slow, he has issues with strength and aerial ability, but can work on these. He is the best defensive organiser we have, and his ability to cover fullbacks is an essential skill in the modern era.

Tuanzebe is very promising, but nowhere near Lindelof’s standard right now.


9.) 22 Oct 2019 14:42:13
Danny, the make up of who starts or who doesn’t is definitely debatable. The point is the formation and how it seems to suit the current squad.


10.) 22 Oct 2019 15:42:17
It’s a formation that can work in certain games, but only if our strategy is to cede position, sit deep, and hope to nick goals on the break. Doesn’t do anything when we play against weaker sides that won’t push forward preventing us from breaking at speed.

It’s Wolves strategy.


11.) 23 Oct 2019 08:08:31
We have players coming back from injuries which is a huge boost.
It is the lack of goals which is concerning.
Martial returning could help us with that.

We need the trio of Martial, Rash and James to develop understanding soon to kick start our season.


12.) 23 Oct 2019 13:59:45
Harry Maguire is the one that organises the defence not Lindelof.


 

 

 

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02 Dec 2019 22:08:54
If new owners don’t saddle us with debt, don’t take dividends and consultancy fees, are ambitious and do what City’s owners have done, put football people who know what they are doing to protect their asset, then its a football club get on with it. We don’t pontificate over where petrol came from when putting fuel in our cars.

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17 Oct 2019 20:16:29
Ed002

Interesting that you seem a strong advocate of Blanc.

I am concerned at why he hasn’t worked for 3.5 years. Why didn’t he take any offers? He was given a big pay out by PSG by all accounts so could choose to be picky, yet 3.5 years is a long time in football. Was he overlooked recently for the Lyon role? Did I read that he turn down the chance of United previously?

If we stay with OGS, Allardyce may get the call after Christmas, perhaps if OGS stays longer it would be a call to Neil Warnock next May.

Red Man

{Ed002's Note - He has turned down offers that he did not see as suitable, and he spoke with Lyon.}


 

 

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17 Oct 2019 18:45:00
Sorry but Laurent Blanc does not do it for me. He was a square peg as a player, bought in desperation. Intelligent footballer but no Premier League experience as a manager and no one is knocking on his door at any of the top clubs. It would feel like another placating manager, that the fans may give more leeway to than another manager. We need to trust the next manager based on previous record, for a long period, it can’t be another guess and Blanc would be a guess for me.

Red Man

{Ed002's Note - Maybe if you give him some cash he will do it for you?

I suspect you know little about him or the offers he has had. You deserve Sam Allardyce.}


 

 

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11 Oct 2019 12:54:36
I think I would rather have Wayne Rooney short term from Jan to May.

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08 Oct 2019 12:25:02
Love it Bond.

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07 Dec 2019 19:50:32
Absolutely chuffed to win. Well done Ole, credit where it is due he got the first half right and we held on. We didn’t react to Walker dropping into Rashfords space in the second half, which stopped most of the pacy breaks.

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05 Dec 2019 21:47:36
Hi Ken

My guess will be a similar formation to Liverpool home. City like to work the fullbacks, manoeuvre them out of position before slotting a straighter pass than usual putting strikers in on the keeper. So discipline in full back areas is important so five at the back. City play their full backs high, however drop someone like Rodri back in front of the back two. Our pacy forwards are key and breaking down the channels will be dangerous for City. We may split James and Rashford again. We need a player in midfield to follow DeBruyne
Derby games are difficult to predict, see how we feel on the day.

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04 Dec 2019 21:31:37
Great to win, much needed.

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04 Dec 2019 19:35:10
Shappy

No not blind to his history. It should have told the club how to manage him but the amateurs didn’t support him in the summer transfer window so what happened was hardly a surprise.

On the same basis, we should believe that Ole will relegate us this season.

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04 Dec 2019 17:43:07
As the Ed says, we turn up occasionally, sometimes in big games. We are at home and I am not sure which manager will be more nervous, neither wanting to lose. A 2-1 score for me, just not sure which way.

Red Man