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Favourite player: Ole Gunner Solskjear

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01 Nov 2018 21:36:19
Teams for the Matt Hawker Charity Cup 2019 - brought to you by Boyne Valley
15th June 2019

Ed001's - Lee's United

( C ) Ken
Benny Baller
John From Wigan
Magic Marl
Red Reaper
Saints-fan (GK)

Ed002's - Frunobulax Rovers
( C ) Koppite_68
Red Rout
Grandmaster Ramrod (GK)
Mermaid Megger
MK scouser

Big thanks to 077 for setting up the live chat, and to 001 and 002 for giving their time, and once again, supporting the football-rumours charity match, in aid of Macmillan Nurses and Seva Foundation.

Would love an attendance from fellow posters. I know most of use will be going out for some bevvies after. So well worth the trip guys.


1.) 02 Nov 2018 15:05:33
Don't worry Shaps, I got your back.

2.) 02 Nov 2018 16:43:52
And watch yours james😁.

{Ed002's Note - I'll have a large gin and tonic please.}

3.) 02 Nov 2018 17:28:15
I think there might be more United fans on our team. So I guess the site will have to be on our side. lol.



17 Jul 2018 11:05:15
169 Goals at this years World Cup. Which means I'd like to invite.
Salah - 167
Jamesmack8 - 165
Red Reaper - 162
Laney - 160

To play in the 2019 Matt Hawker charity game.
Thanks to everyone who had a guess, and any drop outs I'll contact the next closest.

Next phase will be when Ed001 and 002 pick their two tribes to go to war.
We did a live chat where they took turns picking last year, I think we did it around November? So let's aim for then :)

Posted on behalf of Benny Baller.


{Ed002's Note - I'll get on to the kits then.}

1.) 17 Jul 2018 14:09:58
Last time Salah will win anything this season ;)



03 Feb 2017 14:43:44
What do people make of the rumour this morning that along with Rooney that Martial maybe sold to raise funds for Griezmann?

Things don't seem quite right with Martial this season, he doesn't seem to have the trust of Jose, he has had an unsettled life off the pitch. He was unhappy about losing the No.9 shirt, and his agent was making noises about going to Sevilla on loan.

Our interest in Griezmann seems pretty solid, and the questoon was if he signed who would miss out?

Martial looks a prime candidate for being the one to miss out so maybe the club will look to move him on. Would be sad to see him go as he has so much potential.


1.) 03 Feb 2017 15:40:16
If the reports are true that he refused to warm up before the hull game and his attitude stinks then I think we should get rid regardless of how talented he is.

Plenty more players that would jump at the chance to be in his position.

2.) 03 Feb 2017 15:59:17
I can see them both going Shappy, not sure if that is "too raise funds" but it's a nicer way of putting it than "no longer good enough and not professional/ mature enough", to be honest if we expect to be at the top there are about 10 players that need to be replaced with superior ones. Too many of our players have gotten away with simply plodding along for too long and a few others are not progressing or coming to the end of their careers/ effectiveness.

I could list them, but it would be one hell of a long list, more messy than ever when you look at each player in our squad and ask "are they good enough to be a regular starter in a title winning team"? .

3.) 03 Feb 2017 16:03:58
If griezmann comes in someone will have to move on and i think it could be martial .
I don't think rooney going would be tied in to griezmann and i don't think united need to sell to buy .

4.) 03 Feb 2017 16:31:02
If he refuses to try harder it is consistently unprofessional regarding his place in the squad then, after being given a fair chance to improve, he needs to move in. Shane, as very talented.

However, media loves to create mischief with United stories, so hopefully it's something that Mouribgo can successfully address.

5.) 03 Feb 2017 16:31:36
Martial is lazy when he hasn't got the ball. There is no movement from him. He just stands there with his shoulders slumped looking fed up, his body language is awful. I think this is why Jose states he has to do more to earn his place.

6.) 03 Feb 2017 16:43:44
Dave, I'm not sure that's true. Mourinho is a team man and he wouldn't stand for that kind of attitude. Its disrespectful to your team mates and creates a bad atmosphere.

I can see why people might consider Martial sulky, he does have a very sullen look about him. He rarely smiles even when he scores.

I think if he really was like that then we might have heard something about it before rather than the press waiting until Mourinho drops him to suddenly start telling the world what he was like.

Beast, will you ever be happy? Were you ever happy with the team? So are you suggesting that DDG is the only player you'd keep? Beyond that we need a whole new 21/ 22 players to build a good squad? A little bit of an over reaction isn't? I'm starting tk think that you would be saying the same things if you were a fan of any other club in the world, everything is being done wrong in your opinion.

Jred, I don't think the club needs to sell to buy, but the wages could be an issue. Martial being sold would help balance the books considering how much Griezmann would cost and the fact that we would probably look to bring in another 3-4 players as well as Greizmann. That could well be close to 200m being spent. We would probably need to recoupe around 100m of that, which means we would need at least one big sale. I think Rooney leaving is more about freeing up the wages rather than any fee we would recieve.

{Ed007's Note - Wazza will get a bumper new contract extension before the summer ;-)

7.) 03 Feb 2017 16:51:03
Hi shaps. I really hope martial will be kept, many sources have claimed he wants to stay and is happy. I think he has gotten better and obviously things happened in the summer that unsettled his person.

I would actually move on ibra to be honest, it would allow a front 4 of martial, rash, griezmann and miki. Much more pace and flexibility. I really like ibra but feel that 1 year was enough and hopefully some of the younger players have learned from him.

8.) 03 Feb 2017 17:11:21
I'd love to know who reported it dave. It's not the first time this season that he hasn't warmed up.

Is this like the story last week where he supposedly didn't go to training? That was a load of crap.

9.) 03 Feb 2017 17:33:59
I said last week, all of sudden everything that happens will be down to martial's attitude. People jump on a comment and then it snow balls.

10.) 03 Feb 2017 17:52:27
Shappy - Well I'm not happy scrapping for 4th place every year mate, so yeah the squad needs a cull. If I were in charge which is what I think you are asking, then the only ones I would keep for the starting 11 (most of our team are squad players at best) .

DDG, Jones, Bailly, Miki, Herrera (on the edge) - none of the rest would make it in my first team. If they pulled their fingers out then Shaw, Martial, Pogba and Ibra would potentially. All the rest of them can go as far as I'm concerned. Players like Rojo, Valencia, Carrick, do well but they should be squad players at best now.

So yeah, I'm not very happy, because too many people beat around the bush. Whinge about not being positive, but if you take a step back it's pretty messy. We need 4-5 top signings and being suitable if Jose isn't going to change how we play.

11.) 03 Feb 2017 19:52:59
Beast would it be possible for you to produce a squad list that you would expect us to have as our current one is so clearly lacking (please be some what realistic)

12.) 03 Feb 2017 20:02:51
Martial was miserable and moody last year but he was playing well so we just accepted it. Now his form has dropped its become a big issue. Only those inside the club know how big an attitude he has but you're either a team player or you're not. If he is let's keep him, if not let's sell him.

13.) 03 Feb 2017 20:28:03
Coleman RB, Rose LB, Vidal CM, Griezzman 2nd striker, wingers are tricky, but I would push Valencia up and give Martial/ Miki a chance to shine with better players on the left or right, they can tuck in well and support the strikers with full backs flying forward. I'd stick with Ibra with 4-4-2. Then hunt for wingers in the next window if necessary.

Those are 4 key signings in the summer I'd make, £175m-£200m. Let go of Mata, Darmian, Shaw, Fellaini, Lingard, Rooney - probably recoup £80-£100m from those, wages would even themselves out roughly.

14.) 03 Feb 2017 20:52:30
Beast, the change from Sir Alex was always going to be tricky, watch Arsenal struggle when Wenger moves on.

You can't have 27 years of one manager and expect a smooth transistion.

Personally I feel a squad is made up of many different players of different levels of talent, fight and personality.

The kind of player you seem to want is a Roy Keane type fighter, but a squad of 25 Keanes would tear itself apart.

Even the most successful squads have bit part players, guys who might not have the same quality as the others but offer something different.

I think on the whole our squad is pretty decent. We are still three or four players away from having a first team capable of functioning as fluidly as Mourinho would like.

I feel the real issue with our team is still the balance at the back. I think we lack real quality full backs, I inclued Valencia and Shaw in that. Shaw has potential, but bar a handful of games at the start of last season we haven't seen him come close to reaching it. Valencia has been a stand out performer this season, but is 31 years old and still his delivery from the flank is erractic and he still gets caught out defensively at times.

I feel the other areas we stuggle is top class holding midfielder, Carrick is well into his twilight years and can't cover as much ground as he used to, and still for me hasn't shaken off the safety first passing of the LvG era. I also feel we need a long term partner for Bailly, someone who can play the ball out of defence quickly and accurately.

I think we are well covered in the goalkeeping department.

I think Blind, Smalling, Jones and Rojo are decent squad defenders. Tuanzebe, TFM and CBJ offer hope for the future.

I think we need a true defensive midfielder, but beyond that Pogba, Herrera, Blind and Fellaini offer good options. Carrick and Schweinsteiger offer experience, and I like the look of both TFM and Andreas Pereira as young options coming though. Its a good balance.

I think for the most part our forward options look very good. In the long term we will need a replacement for Rooney/ Ibrahimovic as a central striking option. And depending on the development of Martial, Rashford and Lingard maybe another option, possibly someone more like a true wide man rather than a striker playing wide or a No.10 shunted out wide.

We have a lot of very good young players, Bailly, Shaw, Tuanzebe, TFM, Pereira, Lingard, Martial and Rashford.
We need to see how these players develop before we can right any of them off.

I don't think the squad is that far off a really top one to be honest.

15.) 03 Feb 2017 21:22:59
Agree with a lot of that mate. Trouble is we aren't playing to the strengths of our squad and we have too many squad players, or players that put in a lot of 6/ 7 out 10 performances but not too many regularly putting in the 8/ 9 out of 10's.

We have a lot of passengers, waiting for somebody to do something, too happy to leave it to the next guy and do the easy thing. Ironically the two magical players we signed are the biggest passengers of the bunch. We need 2 or 3 players with that drive an urgency, that will encourage the rest of the team to work, run off the ball, not always think safety first.

We aren't far away, but 4-5-1 is a bad formation because it's a balancer, teams like Hull, Stoke can match up and it's hard to break them down. 4-4-2, will mean it upsets those teams, opens us up but means they have to attack and that leaves space.

We need to be a bit cleverer and a bit more energetic. But we need to replace some of those squad players with top class players in their position, too many average players.

16.) 03 Feb 2017 21:37:02
I think our forward line is one of our biggest issues they can't score and struggle to hold onto the ball or be the first line of defence. Just way too many slow old average players. We lack real quality throughout the team. If we all picked our favourite team from Europe assuming we were still in it we wouldn't have a player in it. ( maybe a keeper) That's criminal for the richest club on the planet.

17.) 04 Feb 2017 12:36:29
We don't need to raise funds. That's Woodys job an he's good at it.

Young, Rooney, Darmian, rojo could all be off come summer. Bastian probably as well.

If Griezmann comes in he'd be first choice with zlatan maybe taking a back seat.

18.) 06 Feb 2017 20:08:45
Agree with a lot of that and players are only running on 6/ 10 apart from bailly, Herrera, Jones, Miki and rojo which you lot want axed? Is he not good to have as cover?

We need a vote here too see how many believe griezmann will make it at UTD and not turn into another Forlan.

AG fits well into the way AM play. We do not play like AM and I think it will take AG a season to play well.

19.) 08 Feb 2017 19:20:01
AG is probably one of the only players in world football who can hold a candle to Messi and ronaldo.

I am quite sure he would be able to fit into any team, he is that good.



26 May 2016 10:33:08
I hope there is some substance in this Manolas rumour. For me he is probably about the best option open to us. Strong, quick, great in the air, excellent reader of the game. A no nonsense type defender but one with good technique and a communicator and leader at the back.

He is the kind of centre back we can pair with anyone and he'll work well with them.

I'd still want to see someone else come in, Varane, Marquinhos, Stones or Bartra would work well with Manolas.

In fact for someone like Stones who has a mistake in him, and who needs to improve the defensive side of his game having a player such as Manolas alongside him and Mourinho on the touchline could be the making of him. I've been wary of Stones as I don't think he would improve our defence atm, but if he was brought in alongside Manolas then it could work well.


1.) 26 May 2016 12:15:01
Two CBs are a priority. Signing just one would leave us at risk. I really rate Varane but to sign an English player in Stones is very tempting.

Although if Roshaun Williams and Tuazenbe get promoted and play some games this season that would be an added bonus.

2.) 26 May 2016 12:34:52
I think TFM could also be played at CB under Mourinho. I'd be quite happy to sign Manolas and Bartra a could of lads in their mid twenties to leave space for the likes of TFM, Williams and Tuazenbe to fullfil the roles of talented young players.

I wouldn't be gutted if we signed Stones or Marquinhos, but given their ages it would make it far more difficult for the young CB's coming through as players like Stones or Marqunihos are only a couple of years older than them.

3.) 26 May 2016 12:47:31
For manolas just read otamendi.

4.) 26 May 2016 13:27:27
Agree Manolas is one of the best options available. Mainly because he's one of the only options who compliments what we currently have. His qualities blend well with Smalling's. Shaw, Manolas, Smalling and hopefully a rejuvenated Darmian has the making of a top back line. But agree that an extra centre back would be even better.



11 Sep 2015 14:12:13
I think people get too hung up over player contracts.

Yes it is excellent news that DDG has signed a new deal, why? Because it now means he will probably play most of our games this season, and with him being one of if not the best keeper in the world atm it certainly makes our team stronger.

The length of a players contract has very little baring on how long a player will stay at a club. Think of it like this 90% of player moves involve a player who is under contract, only around 10% of players see out the full duration of their contracts.

DDG may leave next summer or the summer after that or the one after that. Only two things are certain.
One he will leave at some point, be it either in his prime, the twilight of his career or through retirement.
And two him having a deal with the club means he will be available to play for thr club this season.
Beyond that who knows. Ultimately when he leaves we will look for a replacement. And hopefully it will he someone as good or even better than him.

And for those who say it was all about the money? Probably, isn't the money one of the biggest factors in your career?

But on a serious note, I think he is happy in Manchester, but has a girlfriend who would benefit from having her more famous boyfriend with her on social events in Spain, and an agent who wants to make money.

As it stands he will earn more money and based on his performances he probably deserves it, and he will probably stay at the club for a few more years.

Now let's just sit back and appreciate the fact we have one of the best keepers in the world playing for us. let's enjoy it.


1.) 11 Sep 2015 14:28:55
i don't buy in to all the family stuff i just think like a lot of players he wanted to play for madrid.
that looks to be of the cards so he has took the cash and stopped at united.

great news for us

2.) 11 Sep 2015 15:28:47
Jred, from what I heard his family thought it better he stay in Manchester considering the circus that goes on in Madrid.
I think it was his girlfriend and maybe his agent who seemed most keen on his moving to Madrid.

I also think Madrid have been trying everything they can to clear themselves from any blame over the collapse of his move so as to make sure they didn't burn any bridges knowing that it was possible he would sign a new deal. I expect now he has signed a new deal Madrid will become very quiet over his non move.

3.) 11 Sep 2015 18:44:10
Well done Shappy, couldn't agree more (other than the bit about deserving the money. No one deserves that amount of money, especially for playing a game. It's not exactly saving lives or advancing humanity. )

But yes you're right, let's enjoy that he's staying and accept that he will probably be gone in the next season or two. Wise words mate.

4.) 11 Sep 2015 20:18:05
Have to disagree with ihatefootball's opinion on players deserving the amount of money they get paid. When you look at the massive amounts the teams are earning through apparel and jersey sales, ticket sales, concessions, Champions League- the players deserve every penny they can get. Nobody pays to watch us kick about on the weekends. They pay to watch the best players in the world at their jobs.

When you hear about players like Messi paying a sick childs medical bills how can you find a complaint with how much they earn?

{Ed007's Note - Aye, it's not every sick kid that can get a football club to pay for private 'treatments'.}

5.) 11 Sep 2015 22:28:03
Maybe I am attributing ill motives to RM, but it seemed to me that their tactic was to maximise the chance that they could sign de Gea for free in 2016. They have failed. I congratulate the powers that be in Utd for standing firm.
So, what abut Monaco? I have yet to see any report that the total fee for Martial is not extortionate. They will need a replacement. Why not make sure that the price that they pay is also excessive? When they identify the replacement, put in a higher bid , but graciously allow them to better it (or not). Make good use of Utd's financial muscle.
Red Setter

6.) 11 Sep 2015 23:01:45
I'm sorry??? You what??? You agree that players should get paid £200,000 a week for kicking a ball around some grass? Best at their job in the world maybe but at kicking a ball round a field. It is DISGUSTING the amount of money they are paid. Can you not put it into perspective? Get a grip!

{Ed007's Note - You can't blame the players, what do you expect them to say? 'Here never mind that £100k a week plus appearance money, goal scoring bonus and image rights, give me £2k a week and a leased Ford Focus?'
Blame Sly TV for the mess football is in, we expect the players to work as hard as some guy sitting welding all day and putting a hard shift in, why shouldn't they do what the welder does and weld where he gets paid the most.
I really can't lay the blame at the crazy wages going around on players, it's the people providing the money and the people distributing it that need to look at it.
Years ago the clubs held all the power but now it's swung to the players calling the shots, what we need to find is a happy medium but sadly I think it's went too far now and that's never going to happen.
For anyone over 30, football is never going to be the same or as enjoyable ever again for us, and that breaks my heart.}

7.) 12 Sep 2015 06:17:47
Ihatefootball- i do understand your point. If you think of it in its basic terms as just a game with grown men out in a field kicking a ball then it's absolutely rediculous. The reality is football is a business and they are the star attractions in an industry that generates billions.

In any business you have to spend in order to have a competitive advantage over your competition and I'm proud to support the club and am thrilled they are investing back in the team to buy or keep some of the worlds best players. Without De Gea we probably wouldn't be in the Champions League which is worth millions to the club.

Ed007 I'd love to find a happy medium, but as long as club profits continue to raise then I'd imagine player wages will as well.

{Ed002's Note - There are constraints within FFP in respect of the wages.}

8.) 12 Sep 2015 08:59:34
Rumours in Spain that there is a release clause for 50 million in the contract.

9.) 15 Sep 2015 12:57:49
He signed a contract out of respect but there will be a clause in the contract that if real madrid put in such an such amount then he goes. let's not get hard ons over it




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Does Ole Gunnar Solskjaer have what it takes to be a permanent Manager of Manchester United

14 Jan 2019 12:39:51
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Does Ole Gunnar Solskjaer have what it takes to be a permanent Manager of Manchester United


1.) 14 Jan 2019 13:20:04
Very good article. I share your reservations about Pochettino.
Fergie always said Ole was such an excellent sub because he read the game so well from the bench and knew exactly where the weaknesses were when he came on. Clear managerial material.

2.) 14 Jan 2019 17:38:42
Ole gunnar Solskjaer will be the next manager of Manchester United. Of this I am sure.



13 Jan 2019 10:49:33
So we have been linked with Southgate this morning, which has gotten a seemingly negative response from most fans. So I thought I would ask, who is your top three choices in order of preference for the United Job?

For me it would be
1, Pochettino
2, Blanc
3, Tuchel

Then there are 3 or 4 young managers I feel we should keep a close eye on as they could be great options in the future or even now if we wanted to take that gamble. Eddie Howe, Nuno Espirito Santo, Marco Rose and Paulo Fonseca all look like excellent young managers who could be ready to challenge themselves at a higher level.

However, considering the amount of work that needs to be done with our squad, I would opt for someone a little more experienced this time, hence Pochettino, Blanc and Tuchel.

Who would you guys go for and why?


1.) 13 Jan 2019 11:36:50
To be honest i'd prefer to go for the others you mentioned. I would ask why blanc figures so high?

2.) 13 Jan 2019 11:37:20

Southgate is a total no

Howe, I seriously don’t think he is a viable option, there has been gathering criticism for his clubs situation recently. Perhaps if he takes a step up to a top 6 candidate, a Leicester and after we see how he copes in that next role.

Blanc, not for me, what has he been doing for the last couple of years.

We need to be careful with gambles, those younger managers can get lost in the size of job we have at OT. We gambled with Moyes and LvG, Mourinho didn’t work and wasn’t supported, so another gamble with a multi Billion pound business is too risky for me.
Pep is unattainable
So despite not yet winning anything (which may be put right by summer) Pochettino would be my first choice. However, knowing our club, they may not be willing to pay what it takes, what Levy will demand, providing, of course, he wants to come to us and we should not assume that.

After Poch, perhaps we should consider Simeone?

Third choice, how about Woodward.?

3.) 13 Jan 2019 11:41:22

I think Pochachino will stay at Spurs😆😆.

4.) 13 Jan 2019 11:44:47
Nice list shappy. I think the Southgate rumours are pure rubbish. I see there is a massive twitter meltdown about it. I think he’s doing a great job for england and should stay where he is. He may be in ‘consideration’ but I’m sure there is 3/ 4 options before him.

1. Poch - even if we win today Poch would be my first choice. I think the way he carries himself in the media, his man management and his style of play are all in keeping with the way a united manager should be. We should go all out for him.

2. Tuchel - always a fan of his but there have been issues with his handling of egos in the past. Seems to be doing alright at PSG but may get sacked if they don’t win it. His team plays entertaining football but like I said he seems like a bit of a loose canon.

3. Ole - if we can’t get Poch and ole gets top 4 I would give it to him with the same back room staff. I was underwhelmed when we appointed ole but he’s done great. Saying all the right things and truly gets united. Question marks about how he will perform against the big boys so that remains to be seen. If we can’t get Poch we should keep him.

4. Zidane - brilliant record at real and I think that his achievements disrespected quite a lot by fans. Winning 3 champions leagues in a row is unprecedented so he knows how to win the biggest silverware. Also won the league in his second season. Whilst he has the trophy credentials, doubts remain on whether he can really build a team as opposed to inherting a very talented real side. Perhaps someone like Evra as no 2 would help him.

5. Blanc - I think he’s a quite underrated. Won the league with Bordeaux and did well at PSG. Been out of the game for a while but his sides played attractive football. He would be a ‘safe’ appointment and perhaps another experienced/ LVG type appointment. He wouldn’t be in the reckoning for me.

Wildcard - Nagelsmann. Love this guy he is destined for the very top. Progressive young manager who would have been a great fit for arsenal. Unfortunately he has signed for Leipzig otherwise he would have been my option along with Poch. Looks like he is being groomed for the Bayern job. He will do great things.

Top managers but not right for united - Allegri, Simeone. Both very good managers with extremely well drilled sides defensively. But that’s the issue for me. Far too conservative and that’s why we had issues with Jose. Simeone’s teams play with great intensity and are so well drilled. But ultimately they are boring to watch. His style would not go down well with the old Trafford faithful.

Allegri perhaps would be a better fit. Very good tactician and rotates his squad brilliantly. But with the Juve side he has at his disposal he should really be blowing sides away. Some say he is conservative because he is under so much pressure to win the champions league so he is prioritising results over style. Is his defence, his sides usually are conervative from September to March. Then they really finish strongly. Fergieesque in some ways. Last year I would have jumped at the opportunity of him as manager. But now I would avoid based on his style of play. Also, he is unlikely to be interested after we messed him around.

So for me it has to be Poch. I think we are the right move at the right time for him. Win lose or draw today he is the guy we should be going all out for. Nagelsmann would have been a nice option but attainable. If Poch fails and ole wins a cup and gets top 4 he gets my vote. Never thought I would even entertain that idea but he has been a breathe of fresh air. I would rather have someone who knows the club than an outsider who will take time to adjust to the magnitude of the task at hand. But keeping Phelan is key for ole.

5.) 13 Jan 2019 12:07:42
Poch should be the clear number 1 choice in my opinion. He's done brilliantly at Spurs.

Others such as Allegri or Blanc are possible alternatives.

However, if we are simply looking at managers we would like and not necessarily those who are likely to move, how about Lucian Favre? He did well at Gladbach, made Nice a much better side and now at Dortmund he has them playing quick, exciting football which has them top of the Bundesliga. The average age of the Dortmund starting line up has been something like 23 which is unbelievable considering how successful they have been this season.

6.) 13 Jan 2019 12:48:35
I like the way bielsa has Leeds playing although pochettino is 1st choice and Favre seems decent too.

7.) 13 Jan 2019 12:59:12
Favre is brilliant RJ. But I don’t think we have much chance tbh.

8.) 13 Jan 2019 14:02:58
Farve is someone I considered but I doubt we will be able to get him.

For me the three key factors are:
Play good football.
Promote and develop youth.
Be in contention to win titles.

Other good traits but maybe not as important to me are how they handle themselves in the press and how they handle egos within a group. Both are very important but I wouldn't choose a manager who has one of those traits over a manager who had the first three.

Not a fan of Zidane, I'm not convinced by his tactics or his ability to maintain challenges on more than one front. He consistently struggled to challenge in a league where there is only one other team likely to win the league.

9.) 13 Jan 2019 13:47:36
I don’t understand the meltdown over Southgate he’s done a great job with England and it’s easy to forget how dreadfully the previous Managrs did, probably with better players. I get he’s not to some peoples taste but the reaction has been over the to.

I think there are a few things we need from a Manager. A willingness to develop what we have and also bring the young players on. A desire to play expansive attacking football. Strong man management skills. I also think they need to be able to speak English, not just to the players but to all the staff at the club.

I’m not as knowledgeable as a lot of you about overseas Managers but I don’t like Simeone at all, not sure what Blanc has done to merit consideration, Allegri was once in the plan but not sure if that ship has sailed.

Poch has to be the favourite, he knows the league, he plays the game the right way, he develops what he has, he doesn’t whinge, but he also hasn’t won anything yet. That might be an issue for some, not for me.

10.) 13 Jan 2019 14:07:19
My view is simple.
We have a manager at the moment. If he secures top 4 and has a good run in both cup comps then for me he should get the job.
Anything short of that and the club will look elsewhere.
Ole has done well we were 8 points off top 4 when he came in. But if we lose today we will be 9 points off top 4. If we win it will be 6 points.
Poch is top candidate.
Southgate no
Zidane no
Howe no
Biesla very much worth considering
Simione likewise
Although both have language barrier.
Im hoping ole gets the job because it means we will have done great between now and then.

11.) 13 Jan 2019 14:12:14
Southgate beat Panama, Tunisia, Colombia and Sweden. On top of that he couldn't hack it in club football with Middlesbrough.

Who in their right mind would even consider him for one of the biggest jobs in world football?

12.) 13 Jan 2019 15:07:17
Allegri probably would join us after being messed around by us before.

Someone and Narglesmann both play football far closer to that of Mourinho than Pep or Klopp. Rugged counter attacking style is something I would like us to get away from.

I'm a little surprised how quickly everyone dismisses Blanc, he has managed big clubs, has won titles (not just at PSG but with Bordeaux as well), his teams play good football and he knows are club well to boot. Considering the club is in a bit of a mess and needs sorting out top to bottom having someone with experience and experience of our club at its peak puts him in a far better position than someone who is younger and less experienced. That could be something important to consider when hiring the next manager. For me Blanc is an extremely good choice for all those reasons. He just isn't as flashy as some of the other names.

Also Ed002 feels he should be first choice, for me that's someone who's opinion I value on theses sort of matters. So although my tendency is towards Pochettino, Blanc should be seriously considered.

13.) 13 Jan 2019 15:19:02
1 - Julian Nagelsmann
2 - Marcelo Gallardo
3 - Mauricio Pochettino (would still prefer an Ancelotti over him though)

14.) 13 Jan 2019 16:35:00
I question Tottenhams mental fragility the moment there's the slightest bit of pressure. For me that doesn't just come from the players but from the top and for me that rules him out.

Blanc has been out of a job for a bit. Surely there's a reason for that and again for me that rules him out.

Simeone's style is awful to watch.

15.) 13 Jan 2019 18:53:20
Not sure how that works Mort. Could've been a personal choice by blanc the last couple of years.

I think he's a good coach and would be a good fit. But Ole seems to keep improving this side, so I'd imagine he will be close to it.



07 Jan 2019 12:09:53
A couple of days ago the press was rife with "United trying to sign Manolas" rumours.

Then today it turns out Roma are negotiating a new deal with him.

Sound familiar? Never trust the press, wait until a player is photographed holding up the shirt posing with the manager or chief executive. Even then don't totally trust it, I can still remember the images of John Obi Mikel in a United shirt.

As tough as it is, don't buy into it. Don't give them reason to continue printing rubbish, building up your hopes for nothing than their financial gain. Let's have a window where we ignore the press. We all know after all that we aren't likely to sign anyone this window.


1.) 07 Jan 2019 12:44:44
The only thing of any truth or accuracy in a modern newspaper is the date and I even check that.

2.) 07 Jan 2019 14:19:35
Apparently Roma have FFP problems and they have a business model of selling older stars and replacing them young players with potential. I’m not sure how true that is so maybe somebody could correct me.

I like Manolas and at the price of £36m it’s a good deal. But I feel we should be going for the top tier of cbs with koulibaly, skriniar, alderweireld. Signing Manolas and let's say koulibaly would be counter productive imo. Especially as it would block tuanzebe’s progress and game time.

But I agree with shappy, Manolas is probably angling for a new contract. He’s recently signed with raiola and I wouldn’t want us to make the same mistake and go into bed with him again. We should have learnt our lesson from previous dealings. Unfortunately newspapers are all garbage today and the only reliable news is found on this site.

3.) 07 Jan 2019 17:30:40
Aahh shappy how did you know about the manolas rumours if you don't read those rumours? 😂😂.

4.) 07 Jan 2019 18:01:07
I don't click the links, but I can still read the headlines. Honest. Lol.

5.) 07 Jan 2019 18:26:35
I think we all read them shaps but i think only the most naive belive them.
Today its coutinho, yesterday manolas the day before koulibaly.
The list goes on and all the way back to sniejder and all those before him.
With the internet being what it is and with twitter being what it is there is practically no credible news sources left.

6.) 07 Jan 2019 18:40:14
LOL. there is another tonight from boot room about why Liverpool do not need to battle us for the signing of Militao as they already have enough right backs. Why buy another. because he plays CB maybe haha. 17 games played this year and all at CB. they just write what they want snappy.

7.) 07 Jan 2019 21:08:49
I still think we'll sign Sneijder and Gaitan.

8.) 08 Jan 2019 11:04:09
Shappy do you remember Aaron Ramsey news? I think even our website reported he was our player.



02 Jan 2019 22:25:32
First manager since Sir Matt Busby to win his first four games in charge.
Kept a clean sheet, and won a game the hard way with Newcastle sitting deep with 10 men behind the ball most of the night.

Must say hugely impressed with Lindelof. He was starting to play well before Ole took over, but in these games since he has been a borderline colossus.

Arguably our best centre back on current form.

Could Lukaku be our new super-sub? Scored twice in two games within 2 minutes of coming on.

Things are looking very bright all of a sudden.


{Ed025's Note - im made up for utd shappy, but lets not compare what OGS has done to sir matt, this whole scenario was set up for the new guy coming in when facing four really poor teams on the trot, jose,s sacking was deliberately timed to facilitate this mate..

1.) 02 Jan 2019 22:40:02
Ed, how dare you come on here and talk sense, happy new year ed.

{Ed025's Note - sorry leahy...same to you mate, football wise it looks a better one for you than me though.. :)

2.) 02 Jan 2019 23:33:00
Of course it was set up nicely for him, the real test is coming up against spurs, after that we have 4 more winnable games before we play Liverpool. If we can get something at Wembley I would expect us to be in the top 4 by the time we play Liverpool, who would have thought that 2 weeks ago?

He’s doing a wonderful job, Jose would not have got them performances out of them, we wouldn’t have won all 4, never in a million years, we’ve played easy games this season and 4 games ago we had a goal difference of -1, it’s not +11, easy as that we are in touching distance of a position that looked impossible, now I can’t wait for the rest of the season and maybe just maybe we will have a say in where the title ends up, even if it isn’t us winning it, I wouldn’t want to be City or Liverpool needing to come to OT for a win against Ole’s united that’s for sure.

3.) 02 Jan 2019 23:16:19
Happy new year ed025. Hope you are well.
Player's look happy so things are looking up.
To be honest i thought we looked a bit jaded tonight. Key players like matic pogba both looked a step slower tonight valencis not pushing on and mata stepping inside made it all bunged up and slow and martial who has been really good had one of his infuriating nights where most of what he did wasnt coming off.
No doubt we have some really good attacking options but the squad is paper thin on real quality in depth in defence and midfield.
Rotating the front 3 is great but our midfield and defence options look poor really.
However with the attacking intent despite looking suspect defensively at least it looks like we will cause teams problems.
Toffees squad looks very unbalanced and despite the money spent still needs serious work. Great fans so i expect the manager to get another year at least to show signs of improvement. Best of luck with it.

{Ed025's Note - cheers ken, yeah tonight was not as fluent as previous but still utd got the job done, you are still a few players short i think mate but the spirit and belief has returned and its good to see, both our clubs need to improve the playing staff but these things are never a quick fix so patience is the key..

4.) 03 Jan 2019 06:59:29
I think nearly all the PL teams have had a sub standard performance in them over the last 12 days - tiredness does set in mentally as well as physically.

Love how Ole gets out of the dug out at the final whistle and stops and shakes all the subs hands as they walk past him , pat on the back here and there to those who didn't get on - then on to the pitch more hand shaking, a laugh and joke with Lukaku, a word and a smile with Pogba- a little word with Shaw -just good management .

Called it how it was in the post match interviews too, not a great performance, slow passing, to many touches first half but no sulking no digging the players out .

Hope he gives 2-3 kids a chance along with squad players and rests the seniors this weekend.

5.) 03 Jan 2019 08:05:30
GDS2 my sentiments exactly. I've gone from watching our games as an obligation back to watching with pleasure.

6.) 03 Jan 2019 08:36:07
Ed025, no one can compare to Sir Matt. He is Man Utd, everything we associate with what United should be is based on what Sir Matt built. Sir Alex might have won more, yet even he isn't as important in our clubs history as Sir Matt is. Sir Alex put us back, whereas Sir Matt created us.

My point is just that no manager, not Jose, not LvG, not Moyes or big Ron, not even Sir Alex was able to win their first four games in charge, and for the most part they faced similar level opposition. Ole has also managed it during a time where not a single player was playing anywhere near their best.

Look at Matic for example, he was a Mourinho man through and through. His interview the other day highlighted it. The interviewer was trying to get him to say that the reason for the improvement was the style of play, yet he refused to say it and dodged the question, still showing his loyalty to Jose by not throwing him under the bus.

Yet it is as clear as day that he is playing twice as well under Ole as he has under Jose this season.

So Ole has even improved the performances of Jose's loyal players.

I don't think Ole is the long term answer, yet his achievements should not be underestimated. There is a long road to the end of the season, and there will be far tougher tests ahead. Yet I don't think there is a single United supporter who is less confident of us getting a result under Ole than they would be under Jose. Even Jose's biggest supporters have to admit they enjoy the football for under Ole, they look forward to matches more under Ole and they are more confident of winning any given game under Ole.

If you can say that about him when comparing him to one of the most successful managers of the modern era then you do have to start asking the question of whether he should remain as manager beyond this season.

I've said it a few times already, the best man for the job isn't always the best man on paper.

Sure Pochettino has the better CV, however, he is yet to win anything. LvG and Jose had great CV's, yet they didn't understand the club.

Ole hasn't been tested at the highest level yet, but then neither had Pep or Zidane when they were given the top jobs at clubs they knew from the ground up.

Sometimes, understanding of the club and a genuine connection to that club can lift a manager to new heights.

It's far too soon to make Ole the permanent manager, yet already he must be making people start to ask if he should. That's quite an achievement in 14 days.

{Ed025's Note - hes been excellent shappy and a breath of fresh air, i was just trying to bring a bit of perspective to the situation because its easy to get carried away mate, things are going great but there are some hard games coming up and i dont want to see knee jerk reactions when things dont go to plan, i cant fault him up to now though and long may that continue..

7.) 03 Jan 2019 10:01:36
That's fair enough Ed025, I'm not getting carried away, or at least trying not to. lol. I don't expect him to get the job unless he does exceptionally well and other targets are difficult to get over the line.

I'm just enjoying our football again, ultimately that is why we watch it, for the enjoyment. So from that point of view Ole has already been a huge success.

Two weeks ago the idea that Ole could be our next permanent manager seemed almost farcical. Yet now he is making a serious case for himself.

Much like players, it isn't always the best on paper who fits in best with the club. Veron, Di Maria, Falcao on paper looked like far better options for our club than many others, yet in reality many lesser players have achieved far more and contributed far more to that success than those players.

The same can be true for managers, I don't think Zidane will prove to be a great manager, yet for Real Madrid he has to go down as one of their greatest managers, at least of the modern era. Which when you consider how many great managers have managed Real Madrid that is a huge achievement. It is the right man that is more important than the best man. The right man isn't always the best on paper, but the man who clicks with the club and the players.

Sadly we are seeing this with Klopp at Liverpool, where he is (at least at the moment) lifting a poorer squad of players higher than Man City who are managed by a man whom many feel is the best manager in the world.

In team sports it is more about the right people than the best people. The right blend of people can elevate themselves higher than the best 11 individuals.

Just something I think we need to consider whoever we decide to hire.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with any of that shappy mate..

8.) 03 Jan 2019 12:30:04
Great posts Shappy and Ed025
Way too early to lock him in, but there he argument is getting louder as each game passes. We are in for a ride of a second half of the season for sure.

{Ed025's Note - looking forward to it mike mate..



Is Solskjear a Clever Appointment by Manchester United?

19 Dec 2018 12:18:34
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Is Solskjear a Clever Appointment by Manchester United?


1.) 19 Dec 2018 12:45:11
Good article Shappy, always enjoy your posts.
It caught me by surprise that Ole was on the list but the more you look at it and what it means going forward the better the appointments looks. I think we will go all in for Pochatino, otherwise the other contenders are all available now.
I am excited to see what he does with a team that is better than they have shown.

2.) 19 Dec 2018 13:21:47
Agree 100% with this Shappy.

3.) 19 Dec 2018 14:02:29
Sensible post Shappy I think the fact the Club have broken precedent suggests things behind the scenes were as rotten as the football. Ole's task is to bring harmony and a feel good factor back to the Club. It might just prove a masterstroke but if not our season was dead anyway so nothing ventured nothing gained I suppose. I'm not expecting miracles and I think he'll find it tough but hopefully the Club now realise that without the football there is no brand. The product they are selling is football and without it there will be no longevity as the value of the Club will steadily decline. Here's to the future and hopefully a bold, modern new footballing strategy at the heart of brand Manchester!

4.) 19 Dec 2018 14:03:30
Brad, I think Pochettino might be the first choice. However, I don't think it would benefit any long term manager coming in during mid-season when you consider the amount of work that needs doing to reharmonise the dressing room.

5.) 19 Dec 2018 14:32:32
Good post shappy.




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21 Jan 2019 09:37:24
There are several issues when settling into a new style of play.

For us we have gone from a team that runs the least to attempting to press higher and more frequently. That level of fitness isn't something that comes out of thin air and will take time to build up.

Also attacking patterns and combinations which just didn't happen before will have to be worked on, improved and perfected.

February is a tough month, we have been fortunate that we have had a run of games which on paper at least are easier to practice and improve. Over the next month we will see what this squad and this manager is truly capable of.




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15 Jan 2019 10:59:33
Both Dalot and Young are capable of playing at both RB and LB. The obvious issue with them is one is young and is learning while the question is how long can Young go on for. For me the solution is bringing in a full back who is a solid RB but who can comfortably cover LB. Then readdress the full back situation at the end of next season.

Ricardo Pereira or Cedric Soares would be good shouts. Both settled and proven EPL players. Neither would cost the earth.

For me we need a first choice CB partner for Lindelof, and a couple of midfielders. Which is likely to cost a fair amount.

I'm not so concerned by a RW, I think Lingard can be a great option there, plus we have a couple of great youngsters who could look to breakthrough over the next two seasons in Chong, Gomes and Greenwood.




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13 Jan 2019 10:38:32
While I too have reservations over Southgate he does tick many of the boxes. Primarily promoting youth and playing offensive football. He has also shown an ability to get players into the right mind-set as seen with England last summer.

Due to the nature of Ole's appointment we will have to endure 4-5 months of press speculation over who will be the next manager. Like with us being linked to 100,000,000 players every year, we will now be linked to just about every manager under the sun. It doesn't sell papers or get clicks if they just keep repeating the obvious. Pochettino is the most likely candidate.

On that point I found Pochettino's most recent interview very interesting. Cheering when Ole scored the winner in the 99 UCL final, saying to him Sir Alex IS football.

Now they could be brushed away as him being asked loaded questions during the interview as we play Spurs today it makes sense to ask him questions about us. However, he didn't need to be that honest or open. I would go as far as saying if Mourinho had said similar comments about another side while our manager it would have been construed as "flirting" with that team, especially if that team was without a permanent manager.

Either way they make interesting reading/ listening.




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03 Jan 2019 17:33:04
He should be playing as a midfielder, that was always going to be his best position. However, that is a role that takes on a lot of responsibility. Whereas, RB is a "easier" role to learn in as there is less responsibility on you in that area of the pitch.

The issue is you only need a handful of games to get used to the faster pace of EPL first team football. After that you gain nothing from playing in a position that is not your own.

Sending TFM to relegation threatened teams, where the pressure is massive, it takes a manager brave bordering on insane to throw a inexperienced youngster in to the heart of midfield. So he was never likely to get the game time he needs in the position that he is best in. He would have been better off going abroad and playing in midfield in any top league than stuck in the EPL playing out of position at a time when he needs to be learning in his best position.




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03 Jan 2019 16:55:17
Depends on how much Roma want for him. He's good but I wouldn't sign him if he will Kostas too much. Lol.





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21 Jan 2019 10:14:32
CSM, you make a good point. Did the players truly down tools?

I suppose that depends on what it means to "down tools". Surely the most obvious meaning is exactly as it sounds you down your tools and refuse to work. So how many players refused to play football for Jose Mourinho? I would argue none. None refused to pull on the shirt and go out and play. So in the true sense no players downed tools.

However, I think what most consider "downing tools" is in fact not giving 100% effort. Which in itself is a very grey area. For example there have been many days at work where I will admit I didn't give it 100% effort, maybe I was hungover, or had a cold, or had an argument with the misses, or was distracted by things in my private life or even things on a global scale. I have also managed people and I can say that even highly motivated people don't put in 100% effort all the time.

So with that in mind how many of us can categorically say that any perceived lack of effort was definitely down to the players refusing to work for the manager?

Is it simply the players putting more effort in now which has seen an up turn in results?

I disagree, we have a poor defence, one which will give our opponents chances. So it doesn't make sense to invite pressure on that defence and make them do more defending than absolutely necessary. Yet That was exactly the tactics Mourinho employed. Ole has gone the other way and asked our side to spend more time attacking than defending and suddenly when our better players have the ball more and our weaker players are relied on less we look a better side. That has nothing to do with motivation or effort, just common sense and good tactics.

First rule of team sports, play to your strengths. Ours isn't defending so setting our side up to defend is setting them up to fail.

I do believe the players could have worked harder under Mourinho, yet I don't believe in dictatorships. So a leader has to lead by inspiration. You inspire those around you to work hard, to follow you and to adopt your vision. Did Mourinho inspire his players? No, they looked demotivated because of his actions. So was the fault the players or the managers? I would say both, but mostly the managers as it is a huge part of his remit to motivate the players. Jose failed on that front and that played a large role in him losing his job. The other issue was his insistence on playing a certain way that didn't play to his players strengths but exposed their weaknesses.

All in all it was poor management, yet no one has covered themselves in glory. The board, Ed Woodward, the manager and the players. That is why that despite how well some of our players are playing Ole is getting all the credit. Because he is the one thing that is different so he gets the credit for the up turn in performance. The buck starts and stops with the manager. Ole gets the credit for the team performing well as Jose took the blame for them performing badly.




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21 Jan 2019 08:23:22
We do have the same bunch of players. Yet was it ever likely that we would sell all or even any of the trouble makers in January?

Chelsea's troubles started when the owner started getting too friendly with the players and they felt they had the ear of the owner.




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20 Jan 2019 22:41:26
Red man, I completely agree. There are other issues that need sorting. Woodward is still just as clueless, the club still don't have a clear identity or vision moving forward, and the "problem" players are still at the club.

However, I do feel the only reason anyone is still mentioning the previous manager is because that manager has come out talking about the club in the press over the last couple of days. Thus it is all dug up again.

I am happy to put the whole Mourinho era down to a bad decision by all involved. I am happy to thank Jose for the cups he won with us, and the hard work he put in. I wish him well and success in his future endeavours.

I still feel that he was the architect of his own downfall at our club, but am prepared to admit there were several mitigating circumstances that certainly didn't help him.

Time to move on. We have Ole now, at least for the time being. And he is doing better than any of us expected. Let's enjoy it.




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20 Jan 2019 22:34:05
Illness before kickoff. Was in the starting line up until 30 minutes before the game.




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20 Jan 2019 08:50:26
Jose got himself sacked by making the same mistakes that he made at Chelsea and Real Madrid. He couldn't adapt to modern footballers and as such his methods caused rifts across the dressing room, the staff, the board and the fans.

However, that doesn't mean what he has been saying over the last few days doesn't carry any weight or ring true.

We do, however, need to consider that he is serving his own needs now. So it's in his best interest to blame everyone bar himself for his failings at our club.


{Ed025's Note - an egotistical maniac at best shappy, thats jose by the way mate not you.. :)