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17 Jul 2018 11:05:15
169 Goals at this years World Cup. Which means I'd like to invite.
Salah - 167
Jamesmack8 - 165
Red Reaper - 162
Laney - 160

To play in the 2019 Matt Hawker charity game.
Thanks to everyone who had a guess, and any drop outs I'll contact the next closest.

Next phase will be when Ed001 and 002 pick their two tribes to go to war.
We did a live chat where they took turns picking last year, I think we did it around November? So let's aim for then :)

Posted on behalf of Benny Baller.

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - I'll get on to the kits then.}


1.) 17 Jul 2018 14:09:58
Last time Salah will win anything this season ;)


 

 

03 Feb 2017 14:43:44
What do people make of the rumour this morning that along with Rooney that Martial maybe sold to raise funds for Griezmann?

Things don't seem quite right with Martial this season, he doesn't seem to have the trust of Jose, he has had an unsettled life off the pitch. He was unhappy about losing the No.9 shirt, and his agent was making noises about going to Sevilla on loan.

Our interest in Griezmann seems pretty solid, and the questoon was if he signed who would miss out?

Martial looks a prime candidate for being the one to miss out so maybe the club will look to move him on. Would be sad to see him go as he has so much potential.

Shappy

1.) 03 Feb 2017 15:40:16
If the reports are true that he refused to warm up before the hull game and his attitude stinks then I think we should get rid regardless of how talented he is.

Plenty more players that would jump at the chance to be in his position.


2.) 03 Feb 2017 15:59:17
I can see them both going Shappy, not sure if that is "too raise funds" but it's a nicer way of putting it than "no longer good enough and not professional/ mature enough", to be honest if we expect to be at the top there are about 10 players that need to be replaced with superior ones. Too many of our players have gotten away with simply plodding along for too long and a few others are not progressing or coming to the end of their careers/ effectiveness.

I could list them, but it would be one hell of a long list, more messy than ever when you look at each player in our squad and ask "are they good enough to be a regular starter in a title winning team"? .


3.) 03 Feb 2017 16:03:58
If griezmann comes in someone will have to move on and i think it could be martial .
I don't think rooney going would be tied in to griezmann and i don't think united need to sell to buy .


4.) 03 Feb 2017 16:31:02
If he refuses to try harder it is consistently unprofessional regarding his place in the squad then, after being given a fair chance to improve, he needs to move in. Shane, as very talented.

However, media loves to create mischief with United stories, so hopefully it's something that Mouribgo can successfully address.


5.) 03 Feb 2017 16:31:36
Martial is lazy when he hasn't got the ball. There is no movement from him. He just stands there with his shoulders slumped looking fed up, his body language is awful. I think this is why Jose states he has to do more to earn his place.


6.) 03 Feb 2017 16:43:44
Dave, I'm not sure that's true. Mourinho is a team man and he wouldn't stand for that kind of attitude. Its disrespectful to your team mates and creates a bad atmosphere.

I can see why people might consider Martial sulky, he does have a very sullen look about him. He rarely smiles even when he scores.

I think if he really was like that then we might have heard something about it before rather than the press waiting until Mourinho drops him to suddenly start telling the world what he was like.

Beast, will you ever be happy? Were you ever happy with the team? So are you suggesting that DDG is the only player you'd keep? Beyond that we need a whole new 21/ 22 players to build a good squad? A little bit of an over reaction isn't? I'm starting tk think that you would be saying the same things if you were a fan of any other club in the world, everything is being done wrong in your opinion.

Jred, I don't think the club needs to sell to buy, but the wages could be an issue. Martial being sold would help balance the books considering how much Griezmann would cost and the fact that we would probably look to bring in another 3-4 players as well as Greizmann. That could well be close to 200m being spent. We would probably need to recoupe around 100m of that, which means we would need at least one big sale. I think Rooney leaving is more about freeing up the wages rather than any fee we would recieve.

{Ed007's Note - Wazza will get a bumper new contract extension before the summer ;-)


7.) 03 Feb 2017 16:51:03
Hi shaps. I really hope martial will be kept, many sources have claimed he wants to stay and is happy. I think he has gotten better and obviously things happened in the summer that unsettled his person.

I would actually move on ibra to be honest, it would allow a front 4 of martial, rash, griezmann and miki. Much more pace and flexibility. I really like ibra but feel that 1 year was enough and hopefully some of the younger players have learned from him.


8.) 03 Feb 2017 17:11:21
I'd love to know who reported it dave. It's not the first time this season that he hasn't warmed up.

Is this like the story last week where he supposedly didn't go to training? That was a load of crap.


9.) 03 Feb 2017 17:33:59
I said last week, all of sudden everything that happens will be down to martial's attitude. People jump on a comment and then it snow balls.


10.) 03 Feb 2017 17:52:27
Shappy - Well I'm not happy scrapping for 4th place every year mate, so yeah the squad needs a cull. If I were in charge which is what I think you are asking, then the only ones I would keep for the starting 11 (most of our team are squad players at best) .

DDG, Jones, Bailly, Miki, Herrera (on the edge) - none of the rest would make it in my first team. If they pulled their fingers out then Shaw, Martial, Pogba and Ibra would potentially. All the rest of them can go as far as I'm concerned. Players like Rojo, Valencia, Carrick, do well but they should be squad players at best now.

So yeah, I'm not very happy, because too many people beat around the bush. Whinge about not being positive, but if you take a step back it's pretty messy. We need 4-5 top signings and being suitable if Jose isn't going to change how we play.


11.) 03 Feb 2017 19:52:59
Beast would it be possible for you to produce a squad list that you would expect us to have as our current one is so clearly lacking (please be some what realistic)


12.) 03 Feb 2017 20:02:51
Martial was miserable and moody last year but he was playing well so we just accepted it. Now his form has dropped its become a big issue. Only those inside the club know how big an attitude he has but you're either a team player or you're not. If he is let's keep him, if not let's sell him.


13.) 03 Feb 2017 20:28:03
Coleman RB, Rose LB, Vidal CM, Griezzman 2nd striker, wingers are tricky, but I would push Valencia up and give Martial/ Miki a chance to shine with better players on the left or right, they can tuck in well and support the strikers with full backs flying forward. I'd stick with Ibra with 4-4-2. Then hunt for wingers in the next window if necessary.

Those are 4 key signings in the summer I'd make, £175m-£200m. Let go of Mata, Darmian, Shaw, Fellaini, Lingard, Rooney - probably recoup £80-£100m from those, wages would even themselves out roughly.


14.) 03 Feb 2017 20:52:30
Beast, the change from Sir Alex was always going to be tricky, watch Arsenal struggle when Wenger moves on.

You can't have 27 years of one manager and expect a smooth transistion.

Personally I feel a squad is made up of many different players of different levels of talent, fight and personality.

The kind of player you seem to want is a Roy Keane type fighter, but a squad of 25 Keanes would tear itself apart.

Even the most successful squads have bit part players, guys who might not have the same quality as the others but offer something different.

I think on the whole our squad is pretty decent. We are still three or four players away from having a first team capable of functioning as fluidly as Mourinho would like.

I feel the real issue with our team is still the balance at the back. I think we lack real quality full backs, I inclued Valencia and Shaw in that. Shaw has potential, but bar a handful of games at the start of last season we haven't seen him come close to reaching it. Valencia has been a stand out performer this season, but is 31 years old and still his delivery from the flank is erractic and he still gets caught out defensively at times.

I feel the other areas we stuggle is top class holding midfielder, Carrick is well into his twilight years and can't cover as much ground as he used to, and still for me hasn't shaken off the safety first passing of the LvG era. I also feel we need a long term partner for Bailly, someone who can play the ball out of defence quickly and accurately.

I think we are well covered in the goalkeeping department.

I think Blind, Smalling, Jones and Rojo are decent squad defenders. Tuanzebe, TFM and CBJ offer hope for the future.

I think we need a true defensive midfielder, but beyond that Pogba, Herrera, Blind and Fellaini offer good options. Carrick and Schweinsteiger offer experience, and I like the look of both TFM and Andreas Pereira as young options coming though. Its a good balance.

I think for the most part our forward options look very good. In the long term we will need a replacement for Rooney/ Ibrahimovic as a central striking option. And depending on the development of Martial, Rashford and Lingard maybe another option, possibly someone more like a true wide man rather than a striker playing wide or a No.10 shunted out wide.

We have a lot of very good young players, Bailly, Shaw, Tuanzebe, TFM, Pereira, Lingard, Martial and Rashford.
We need to see how these players develop before we can right any of them off.

I don't think the squad is that far off a really top one to be honest.


15.) 03 Feb 2017 21:22:59
Agree with a lot of that mate. Trouble is we aren't playing to the strengths of our squad and we have too many squad players, or players that put in a lot of 6/ 7 out 10 performances but not too many regularly putting in the 8/ 9 out of 10's.

We have a lot of passengers, waiting for somebody to do something, too happy to leave it to the next guy and do the easy thing. Ironically the two magical players we signed are the biggest passengers of the bunch. We need 2 or 3 players with that drive an urgency, that will encourage the rest of the team to work, run off the ball, not always think safety first.

We aren't far away, but 4-5-1 is a bad formation because it's a balancer, teams like Hull, Stoke can match up and it's hard to break them down. 4-4-2, will mean it upsets those teams, opens us up but means they have to attack and that leaves space.

We need to be a bit cleverer and a bit more energetic. But we need to replace some of those squad players with top class players in their position, too many average players.


16.) 03 Feb 2017 21:37:02
I think our forward line is one of our biggest issues they can't score and struggle to hold onto the ball or be the first line of defence. Just way too many slow old average players. We lack real quality throughout the team. If we all picked our favourite team from Europe assuming we were still in it we wouldn't have a player in it. ( maybe a keeper) That's criminal for the richest club on the planet.


17.) 04 Feb 2017 12:36:29
We don't need to raise funds. That's Woodys job an he's good at it.

Young, Rooney, Darmian, rojo could all be off come summer. Bastian probably as well.

If Griezmann comes in he'd be first choice with zlatan maybe taking a back seat.


18.) 06 Feb 2017 20:08:45
Agree with a lot of that and players are only running on 6/ 10 apart from bailly, Herrera, Jones, Miki and rojo which you lot want axed? Is he not good to have as cover?

We need a vote here too see how many believe griezmann will make it at UTD and not turn into another Forlan.

AG fits well into the way AM play. We do not play like AM and I think it will take AG a season to play well.


19.) 08 Feb 2017 19:20:01
AG is probably one of the only players in world football who can hold a candle to Messi and ronaldo.

I am quite sure he would be able to fit into any team, he is that good.


 

 

26 May 2016 10:33:08
I hope there is some substance in this Manolas rumour. For me he is probably about the best option open to us. Strong, quick, great in the air, excellent reader of the game. A no nonsense type defender but one with good technique and a communicator and leader at the back.

He is the kind of centre back we can pair with anyone and he'll work well with them.

I'd still want to see someone else come in, Varane, Marquinhos, Stones or Bartra would work well with Manolas.

In fact for someone like Stones who has a mistake in him, and who needs to improve the defensive side of his game having a player such as Manolas alongside him and Mourinho on the touchline could be the making of him. I've been wary of Stones as I don't think he would improve our defence atm, but if he was brought in alongside Manolas then it could work well.

Shappy

1.) 26 May 2016 12:15:01
Two CBs are a priority. Signing just one would leave us at risk. I really rate Varane but to sign an English player in Stones is very tempting.

Although if Roshaun Williams and Tuazenbe get promoted and play some games this season that would be an added bonus.


2.) 26 May 2016 12:34:52
I think TFM could also be played at CB under Mourinho. I'd be quite happy to sign Manolas and Bartra a could of lads in their mid twenties to leave space for the likes of TFM, Williams and Tuazenbe to fullfil the roles of talented young players.

I wouldn't be gutted if we signed Stones or Marquinhos, but given their ages it would make it far more difficult for the young CB's coming through as players like Stones or Marqunihos are only a couple of years older than them.


3.) 26 May 2016 12:47:31
For manolas just read otamendi.


4.) 26 May 2016 13:27:27
Agree Manolas is one of the best options available. Mainly because he's one of the only options who compliments what we currently have. His qualities blend well with Smalling's. Shaw, Manolas, Smalling and hopefully a rejuvenated Darmian has the making of a top back line. But agree that an extra centre back would be even better.


 

 

11 Sep 2015 14:12:13
I think people get too hung up over player contracts.

Yes it is excellent news that DDG has signed a new deal, why? Because it now means he will probably play most of our games this season, and with him being one of if not the best keeper in the world atm it certainly makes our team stronger.

The length of a players contract has very little baring on how long a player will stay at a club. Think of it like this 90% of player moves involve a player who is under contract, only around 10% of players see out the full duration of their contracts.

DDG may leave next summer or the summer after that or the one after that. Only two things are certain.
One he will leave at some point, be it either in his prime, the twilight of his career or through retirement.
And two him having a deal with the club means he will be available to play for thr club this season.
Beyond that who knows. Ultimately when he leaves we will look for a replacement. And hopefully it will he someone as good or even better than him.

And for those who say it was all about the money? Probably, isn't the money one of the biggest factors in your career?

But on a serious note, I think he is happy in Manchester, but has a girlfriend who would benefit from having her more famous boyfriend with her on social events in Spain, and an agent who wants to make money.

As it stands he will earn more money and based on his performances he probably deserves it, and he will probably stay at the club for a few more years.

Now let's just sit back and appreciate the fact we have one of the best keepers in the world playing for us. let's enjoy it.

Shappy

1.) 11 Sep 2015 14:28:55
i don't buy in to all the family stuff i just think like a lot of players he wanted to play for madrid.
that looks to be of the cards so he has took the cash and stopped at united.

great news for us


2.) 11 Sep 2015 15:28:47
Jred, from what I heard his family thought it better he stay in Manchester considering the circus that goes on in Madrid.
I think it was his girlfriend and maybe his agent who seemed most keen on his moving to Madrid.

I also think Madrid have been trying everything they can to clear themselves from any blame over the collapse of his move so as to make sure they didn't burn any bridges knowing that it was possible he would sign a new deal. I expect now he has signed a new deal Madrid will become very quiet over his non move.


3.) 11 Sep 2015 18:44:10
Well done Shappy, couldn't agree more (other than the bit about deserving the money. No one deserves that amount of money, especially for playing a game. It's not exactly saving lives or advancing humanity. )

But yes you're right, let's enjoy that he's staying and accept that he will probably be gone in the next season or two. Wise words mate.


4.) 11 Sep 2015 20:18:05
Have to disagree with ihatefootball's opinion on players deserving the amount of money they get paid. When you look at the massive amounts the teams are earning through apparel and jersey sales, ticket sales, concessions, Champions League- the players deserve every penny they can get. Nobody pays to watch us kick about on the weekends. They pay to watch the best players in the world at their jobs.

When you hear about players like Messi paying a sick childs medical bills how can you find a complaint with how much they earn?

{Ed007's Note - Aye, it's not every sick kid that can get a football club to pay for private 'treatments'.}


5.) 11 Sep 2015 22:28:03
Maybe I am attributing ill motives to RM, but it seemed to me that their tactic was to maximise the chance that they could sign de Gea for free in 2016. They have failed. I congratulate the powers that be in Utd for standing firm.
So, what abut Monaco? I have yet to see any report that the total fee for Martial is not extortionate. They will need a replacement. Why not make sure that the price that they pay is also excessive? When they identify the replacement, put in a higher bid , but graciously allow them to better it (or not). Make good use of Utd's financial muscle.
Red Setter


6.) 11 Sep 2015 23:01:45
I'm sorry??? You what??? You agree that players should get paid £200,000 a week for kicking a ball around some grass? Best at their job in the world maybe but at kicking a ball round a field. It is DISGUSTING the amount of money they are paid. Can you not put it into perspective? Get a grip!

{Ed007's Note - You can't blame the players, what do you expect them to say? 'Here never mind that £100k a week plus appearance money, goal scoring bonus and image rights, give me £2k a week and a leased Ford Focus?'
Blame Sly TV for the mess football is in, we expect the players to work as hard as some guy sitting welding all day and putting a hard shift in, why shouldn't they do what the welder does and weld where he gets paid the most.
I really can't lay the blame at the crazy wages going around on players, it's the people providing the money and the people distributing it that need to look at it.
Years ago the clubs held all the power but now it's swung to the players calling the shots, what we need to find is a happy medium but sadly I think it's went too far now and that's never going to happen.
For anyone over 30, football is never going to be the same or as enjoyable ever again for us, and that breaks my heart.}


7.) 12 Sep 2015 06:17:47
Ihatefootball- i do understand your point. If you think of it in its basic terms as just a game with grown men out in a field kicking a ball then it's absolutely rediculous. The reality is football is a business and they are the star attractions in an industry that generates billions.

In any business you have to spend in order to have a competitive advantage over your competition and I'm proud to support the club and am thrilled they are investing back in the team to buy or keep some of the worlds best players. Without De Gea we probably wouldn't be in the Champions League which is worth millions to the club.

Ed007 I'd love to find a happy medium, but as long as club profits continue to raise then I'd imagine player wages will as well.

{Ed002's Note - There are constraints within FFP in respect of the wages.}


8.) 12 Sep 2015 08:59:34
Rumours in Spain that there is a release clause for 50 million in the contract.


9.) 15 Sep 2015 12:57:49
He signed a contract out of respect but there will be a clause in the contract that if real madrid put in such an such amount then he goes. let's not get hard ons over it


 

 

02 Oct 2014 07:18:58
Looks like we are about to make a key new signing.

Welcome Matt Radcliffe.

Shappy

1.) He is very good mates with Luke Shaw, who has been feeling a little homesick since his move, hopefully it will help him settle as well as helping deal with injuries.


2.) Could be one of the best signings of the summer if he can reduce the injury list


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2018 13:12:25
Seeing as managers are starting to complain about their players being at the world cup I decided to look into just how many players from the top six sides went to the world cup.

Man City - 16
Man Utd - 12 (11 in truth as Fred has yet to play for us)
Spurs - 12
Chelsea - 12
Arsenal - 9
Liverpool - 9 (again 8 really as Alisson has only just arrived)

So what can we make of that? Well first off City had the most players at the world cup, so that may negativity effect them this season.

However, if the best players play in the world cup then these number could be a way of seeing how good each squad is. It could be argued that if you have more players going to the world cup then you have better players. That argument seems painfully childish and over simplistic though.

The real question is how long were those players away representing their countries for? Well in that respect Spurs were the most unlucky side, with 9 of their 12 players at the world cup still their at the semi finals stage, and therefore their until the last weekend of the tournament. So could that effect Spurs this season?

Maybe, maybe not.

At the end of the day many things effect a teams ability to compete, and often its how the individuals themselves think/ feel about the situation that has the biggest impact. Take England's game against Croatia. Now with Croatia having played the most minutes in the tournament upon the full time whistle at 90 minutes, while also having the older player it wouldn't be a massive jump to assume it would be the Croatians who would feel the most tired. However, at the time those players were on the up and that surge of emotion made them feel less tired than they actually probably were. Whereas, the England players had seen their lead and early dominance slip and this probably made them feel more tired than they were.

So how does this effect club football?

It highlights the mental side of the game that can have a direct effect on the physical abilities of the players.

If you have a manager constantly complaining and giving excuses for his players and generally creating a negative atmosphere then that seeps into the players and will negatively effect their mental state and their performances.

Again look at England over achieving, how much of that is down the positive atmosphere created by Southgate? England won their first ever competitive shoot-out. Shoot-outs are completely controlled by the mental state of the players, happy and confident players will always win the shoot-out against the unhappy and unconfident side.

So I don't think the world cup will negatively effect players from top six clubs, well unless their manager makes it effect them.

Shappy

1.) 19 Jul 2018 13:41:11
Really good post shappy!

I have always been a jose fan BUT he's started the pre season with a whiney pissy pants press conference and its the final straw for me now.

Look at leicester and the title winning season, they battled relegation the yr b4 and yet a run of wins gave them the confidence/ invincibility (mentally) to carry it on.

A posituce mindset can turn a top 4 finish in to a league winning finish.


2.) 19 Jul 2018 14:11:37
Over achieve Shappy? England played championship level opposition most tournament and the two games they played to decent opposition, they lost. So how is that over achieving.
You also contradict yourself in the post. You say England had positive mindset and that's why they were in the semis and then you go on to say that Croats were fresher than English. So which is it?

Your post is only anti Jose agenda yet again.

Can you atleast wait for the season to start and let us lose the first 10 games on the bounce and then call for the head?

Jose is rightfully calling out the board as we haven't seen any transfer movement from the board yet. This was the time when the new players would have been bedded in to the squad but we are still struggling with the signings. Pogba is unsure and will anyways come back late. So will Lukaku and the others who went deep in the WC. doesn't that take a toll on the squad. What do you expect the manager to say?


3.) 19 Jul 2018 14:48:19
United Addict, England were not expected to make it to the quarter finals, so to make it to the semi's is clearly achieving beyond expectation. i.e over achieving.

You say England only played championship standard players, however that is subjective. If a top six EPL team beats a championship side then its no big deal, if a league two side does then its a huge deal. If a fellow championship side beats another championship side then it depends which is considered the better within their own level. England may not have beaten any great sides, but they themselves are a very average side. Harry Kane the only player who can be considered world class. The rest are either squad players at a top six side or a decent player within a mid table side. This England team overachieved, they probably won't do so again however.

I haven't contradicted myself either, Croatia should't have been fresher coming off the back of two 120 minute games. And in the first half they were off the pace and it could be considered the number of minutes had caught up with them. However, once they got out of second gear in the second half, then after they scored the equaliser they were on the up, physically more tired than England yet their improved mental state delayed the effects of that tiredness and allowed them to be the better team. England however, were better in the first half, but once Croatia got a foothold and especially after the equaliser the confidence drained out of them and made them look like the team coming off the back of two 120 games in a week.

England's improved atmosphere greatly improved their performances and carried them to the semi's even though they aren't a great team. However, at the end of the day a lack of quality and experience cost them a place in the final.

If you look at any team in world football, they play the best football when those players are happy, confident and when they don't feel pressure or tension.

When Leicester won the title, they played well right up until they realised they might actually win it, fortunately for them other results went their way and they recovered. But the tension and pressure nearly derailed their title bid.

Gerrards slip, Liverpool were playing the best football in the league that season, yet the pressure got to them and they crumbled.

Keegan's Newcastle the same thing happened. And it has happened countless times with Arsenal in the last 10 years, start the season on fire but the pressure and the atmosphere brings them down.

Players are far more sensitive than they used to be, their performances and their life style choices are under more scrutiny than ever before. Over half of the criticism Paul Pogba receives is about his hairstyle more than his football.

That is why it is harder than ever for managers to keep the players happy and playing well and why few managers finish 3 years at a club.

I don't think the way to succeed in modern football is with 1970's techniques. Managers need to adapt to the modern world and modern players. Football is an entertainment industry and fans expect entertainment. Players are over paid softies, but it is a managers job to deal with that and handle them in a way that gets the most out of them. Slating them and creating a negative atmosphere is not the best way and it won't work long term.

Jose's recent comments just highlight how unhappy he is and how this season will follow a similar trajectory to last. Jose needs to improve the players we have and he won't do that by constantly grinding them down with overly negative press conferences and by skulking about grimacing at everyone.


4.) 19 Jul 2018 15:31:20
Shappy- Sunderland had 9 registered in the WC - I hope that isn't an omen lol.


5.) 19 Jul 2018 15:31:20
Shappy- Sunderland had 9 registered in the WC - I hope that isn't an omen lol.


6.) 19 Jul 2018 15:57:29
@Shappy

I wonder if the mental side and negativity and sniping affects the players so much then why did this negative manager win the Premier League thrice? How did Conte win the league? He was hardly a bundle of positivity. Neither was Mancini.

You seem to blame the manager for everything and see faults everywhere. You do realize we finished second and were in a cup final last year?


7.) 19 Jul 2018 18:51:51
Redfaith you say he has won 3 pl titles that only tells us he was a great manager, his last 2 jobs have seen most of the players on the respective teams basically in open rebellion against him. Why do you think conte lost his job? You can't keep aggravating and annoying the people on whose performance your job depends on and expect success or even job security.


8.) 19 Jul 2018 19:29:55
Redfaith, it works in the short term. A quick kick up the arse, have a look at yourselves treatment.

However, it tend to be a short sharp response. Jose has won three EPL titles, yet he has never finished three seasons with a team. It worked with Conte for a season, then last year they dropped out of the top four and he got sacked. He didn't finished three seasons.

See a pattern here. You can't keep whipping the players and expect them to stay loyal. Eventually they turn on you. Jose has an opportunity to change the mistakes of his past and improve himself as a manager. But he needs to change the atmosphere around the club and that starts with creating a positivity around the club. Smile, joke, praise the players. Is it really that hard?


 

 

17 Jul 2018 11:05:15
169 Goals at this years World Cup. Which means I'd like to invite.
Salah - 167
Jamesmack8 - 165
Red Reaper - 162
Laney - 160

To play in the 2019 Matt Hawker charity game.
Thanks to everyone who had a guess, and any drop outs I'll contact the next closest.

Next phase will be when Ed001 and 002 pick their two tribes to go to war.
We did a live chat where they took turns picking last year, I think we did it around November? So let's aim for then :)

Posted on behalf of Benny Baller.

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - I'll get on to the kits then.}


1.) 17 Jul 2018 11:53:35
Are you knitting them Ed002? 🤣.


 

 

10 Jul 2018 12:16:49
Now most fans if asked towards the end of the season to pick the key area of weakness in our squad would have answered with the same answer. Our fullbacks.

It seems common knowledge that Valencia and Young are not ideal options at fullback. Both are converted wingers who ironically struggle with creating chances from open play. They are also both 32/ 33 by the start of next season and clearly cannot go on forever in what is probably the most physically demanding position on the pitch.

And yet the latest rumours are that we might not sign another fullback having already signed Dalot, a player who has played 7 first team games in a much less demanding league. Meaning we will go though next season with more or less the exact same fullbacks and the exact same problems as last season.

Now, we have no way of knowing how accurate these rumours are. At this time of year the media will tell you we are about to sign roughly 1957383 players this summer. Which obviously never happens.

However, maybe we should consider this rumour to be true. After all Mourinho has been at our club for two whole seasons now. This is his fifth transfer window and Dalot is so far the only fullback he has attempted to sign.

Maybe the issues we see with our fullbacks aren't issues with their ability, but them faithfully following the tactics our manager puts forward. After all Young has been far more creative and gets forward far more for England than he does for us.

Mourinho typically likes to have one full back who'll push forward and one who'll stay deep and help protect against counter attacking threats. Even at Madrid where you had Marcelo who practically plays as a winger Mourinho also chose Arbeloa as his RB. A player who'll sit alongside the centre backs.

Mourinho is a pragmatist and a defend first coach, it would be foolish to expect him to want his defenders to be more offensive than defensive.

We may not see any other fullbacks come in as Mourinho may well be very happy with the job our current fullbacks are doing.

Shappy

1.) 10 Jul 2018 12:34:43
Its maybe because all the top clubs know we want new full backs and they are over pricing their players and is porbably the reason we haven5 signed a top lb yet.

Its more to do with negotiating a reasonable fee to get the deal done as we are still interesrinf in signing Sandro and the only thing holding back is the fee.


2.) 10 Jul 2018 13:09:53
Singh,

When has it ever bothered us paying over the odds? We do it all the time.


3.) 10 Jul 2018 12:40:28
Ed has said on the European pages that we are still interested in Alex Sandro. Perhaps we're just trying to move on the likes of Blind and Darmian before moving for him. Especially if wages were an issue for the club earlier in the year.


4.) 10 Jul 2018 13:43:10
Let’s not forget about guys like fosu mensah and Tunazebe (I know he’s not a full back but has been used there for us) coming back for pre season. Is he giving these guys a chance? Who knows.
Full backs are a tricky position to sign in the modern era with how important they are. Danny rose the price being thrown around is 50 million, Alex Sandro around the same and he’s in the final year of his contract. That amount of money is ridiculous and with FFP applying to us I think it’s too much money to potentially waste.
Unfortunatley we do need upgrades in the full back position, but we have some young talent in fosu mensah, dalot, tuanazebe and I guess we could still consider shaw but I think he’s got no chance unfortunatley.
It will be interesting to see what we do regards the positions.


5.) 10 Jul 2018 15:29:04
I think the World Cup has shown we've got a strong good squad littered with some very good players.

In my opinion the priority should be trying to sign a RW. I think adding a quality right winger would have the biggest impact on the team. It's become a problem position with no obvious solution. Lingard is better centrally, Mata is often ineffective when deployed wide and beyond that there isn't really anybody else?

I'd like us to target a more traditional wide player. Somebody that stays wide, makes the pitch bigger, somebody willing to beat their man and put quality crosses into the box for Lukaku. This will create more space for the likes of Sanchez, Lingard and Pogba. It will help to reduce congestion in the middle of the park and provide us with a different kind of threat and more ammunition for Lukaku. We've seen at this WC that Lukaku thrives from quality deliveries into the box.

Whilst I think it would be a mistake not to target a RW if one wasn't forthcoming I would even consider playing Ashley Young in that position. Cue the sniggers and laughter but just hear me out. He's probably the best crosser at the Club and his job would predominantly be to offer width and provide crosses for Lukaku. He still possesses decent pace and dribbling ability. He works tirelessly, is positionally astute and is able to follow instructions. I know I've probably lost most of you already but I think we just need some balance on the right and it may just release the likes of Pogba, Sanchez and Lingard whilst providing Lukaku with more opportunities.

Failing that we need new full backs that can overlap and cross a ball! Come full circle with that post. I fear I may have just committed football banter suicide 😂.


 

 

09 Jul 2018 17:01:55
United Addict asked a good question so I thought I would take the time to reply.
For me there is one very good reason behind the difference in how people feel about England performances and those of United. Expectation.

Now, I'm 31 years old and have no real memory of Italia 90 as I was three during the tournament. My first memories as an England fan come from Euro 96, and they are very fond memories. Since 96 there have only ever been a handful of times I have been excited watching England. Such as against the Argies in 98, Brazil in 02 and the 5-1 result against the Germans. Which means it's been over 15 years since I last truly enjoyed an England performance.

Are England playing great football? No, but they are playing better than they have in a generation. We also should appreciate the feeling around the team, Gareth Southgate has breathed fresh life into this England team, youth and an attempt to play football the right way. He has removed the tension and weight of expectation. We watch games with a level of joy and excitement, and the team thus far has delivered.
Have we played beautiful free flowing football? At times we have but it still looks a little disjointed and lacking real natural ability to unlock stubborn defences. However, we are at least attempting to play good football as opposed to the negative, defensive and dour football we have seen on the most part for the last 22 years.
That is why there is a lot of good feeling around the England team and their performances at the moment.

So how does that relate to Manchester United? Well you certainly don't have to go back to 96 to remember good performances. The simple question is: Are United playing the best football we have seen from them in the last 22 years?

For me and for a large proportion of United fans the answer is a clear no. I would go as far as saying that United aren't even playing the best football we have seen since Sir Alex retired.
The 4-2 and 5-0 games against Leverkusen under Moyes were far more entertaining than any game I have seen under Jose. Sure, we win more games and get better results, but the quality of the football on show? The entertainment value of parking the bus against away to any team in the top half of the EPL.

That's the state of things on the pitch, off it Jose has been hard to love. Constant whinging and snipping, at the Ref's, the opposition, the fans, the media and even his own players. Whereas, Southgate though great interaction with the media has built a happy positive atmosphere around the England team Jose has built a tense negative one around the United team. The only positive things Jose ever says is how great he is or was. I did this, or I achieved that. A man who is constantly looking backwards won't be moving forward for very long.

So, in short even though the quality of football might be similar the England team are achieving it while attempting to play positive football, they have a positive atmosphere around the team and they are playing at their best in 22 years. As opposed to United playing negative football, with a negative atmosphere around the team and playing some of their poorest football in 22 years.

Shappy

{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way shappy, good realistic post without any bias so fair play to you mate..


1.) 09 Jul 2018 19:44:14
Shappy. That's nailed it. United Addict was perfectly right to write the post. But as i explained further down and you have done so succinctly, Southgate got a disjointed squad and turned them into a happy bunch who are determined and almost underachieving, while mourinho has a fantastic squad amd is insisting into souring the mood and mushandling the press.
And that's the difference.


2.) 09 Jul 2018 19:56:20
NoMid, that's the first time I've seen Shappy and succinct in the same sentence 😁.


3.) 09 Jul 2018 22:08:41
Jeeez, i am just surprised there are arguments even during the holidays.

United Addict does have a bit of a point about indifferent support for club and country but i get what Shappy is saying as well.

I guess you got to listen to both sides of the coin.


4.) 10 Jul 2018 00:30:35
Stevie, Shappy's posts are that long, he's bound to be succinct one time, by the law of averages! Only joking Shappy, excellent post.


 

 

25 Jun 2018 13:07:44
Good to see DDG is taking the summer off to fully rest up ahead of the new season with us.

He is the only Goalkeeper yet to make a save at the world cup.

Shappy

 

 

 

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11 Jul 2018 11:55:26
So Fred didn't get a game so he obviously isn't that good. Well someone better let the club know they should call off the pursuit of Alex Sandro as he didn't even make the 23 man squad.

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06 Jul 2018 10:32:09
Must be rubbish, spending most his budget on an ageing player. works better for Jose than Viagra.

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02 Jul 2018 11:55:02
The thing is in hindsight with aerial views of the entire pitch and slow motion footage it is easy to pick out what a player should have done at any point of the game. Anyone with a basis football knowledge and understanding could do it. The fact is every player makes decisions during a game that can be scrutinized post game. The best players make the right decisions more often than not and especially at key moments in games.

The point of having ex footballers as pundits is it is supposed to add a level of authenticity to the analysis, the problem comes when you have average ex players discussing players who are better than the pundits used to be it actually undermines the whole point of having an ex professional commentating.

When Shearer or Henry commenting on strikers it works well, as does when you have Scholes or Lampard on midfielders or Rio on defenders.

That doesn't mean that the A-list ex-pro knows more about that role, just that their career highs lend more credibility to their opinion. Which is the whole reason for having ex-pros as pundits in the first place.

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29 Jun 2018 15:34:41
Personally I would prefer our 3rd choice keeper to be a youngster.

Third choice keepers only ever get on the bench if there is an injury to one of the other two keepers. This rarely happens.

In fact it happens so rarely that the third choice keeper often has to play games for the now under 23's to remain match sharp.

I would rather that be a youngster who should be playing that level than a 35 year old journey man.

I appreciate that players like Joel Pereira and Dean Henderson need regular minutes to continue to progress, so loans make sense. That should open up a space for the younger lad next in line. They should step up, train with the first team, learn off of keepers like De Gea and Romero, while stepping up to the under 23's on a regular basis.

I see nothing to be gained from signing a 35 year old keeper who is not good enough on higher wages to never play a game and take minutes away from our youngster in the under 23 set up.

Goalkeeper is a position that sees little to no rotation, we currently have two world class keepers and a group of very talented young goalkeepers in Johnstone, J. Pereira and Henderson. In fact we probably have the strongest goalkeeper line up I can ever remember us having. Adding Stokes 35 year old back up keeper just seems like a poor and pointless decision if you ask me.

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28 Jun 2018 11:25:55
This is a strange transfer if it happens. Although 35 years old was surely going to get Mourinho excited. Lol.

On a serious note we have BOTH Joel Pereira and Dean Henderson who are highly rated. Obviously Henderson has joined Sheffield United on loan, but Pereira is still at the club.

I suppose maybe the idea is to loan out Pereira for him to gain top level experience while Grant covers the seldom needed third goalkeeper place. I wonder if there could be a view to Grant becoming a coach in a couple of years?

Typical Jose move though, older experienced player who will only make one of two appearances at most signed on a free.

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19 Jul 2018 19:34:50
AAA, I've stopped listening to the manager, it just depresses me and he doesn't say anything I can't work out for myself. I don't need to know about what Jose has done in the past, I need to here what he IS doing and what he WILL do.

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19 Jul 2018 19:29:55
Redfaith, it works in the short term. A quick kick up the arse, have a look at yourselves treatment.

However, it tend to be a short sharp response. Jose has won three EPL titles, yet he has never finished three seasons with a team. It worked with Conte for a season, then last year they dropped out of the top four and he got sacked. He didn't finished three seasons.

See a pattern here. You can't keep whipping the players and expect them to stay loyal. Eventually they turn on you. Jose has an opportunity to change the mistakes of his past and improve himself as a manager. But he needs to change the atmosphere around the club and that starts with creating a positivity around the club. Smile, joke, praise the players. Is it really that hard?

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19 Jul 2018 14:58:00
We have players who can do that, its one of the most simple commands a manager can make. Stay wide, go round the outside and whip crosses in. It's offensive play 101. However, Jose doesn't want to play that way, so it doesn't matter who we sign, it won't happen. Whoever comes in will play in the same way our current players play. If we are lucky they will do it better than our current players.

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19 Jul 2018 14:55:09
This season we will play negative pragmatic football. We will be narrow and deep, and hope to spring teams on the counter. In some games it will work in others it won't. The fans will slowly grow tired of boring slow football after 5 transfer windows and none of the players they want signed. Jose will struggle to compete and grow sulkier and sulkier, taking it out on his players until he loses the dressing room. At which point the club will have to sack Jose and have no one in place to replace him and make another poor appointment in a rush. We will likely finish outside the top four because of the off field commotion which puts pressure immediately on the new manager. We will likely have sold or disinterested some of our best young players so they will either have left already or will push to leave. They will have been replaced by 29-33 year olds who can't hack it anymore or are starting to wind down. The squad will still need 5-6 new players because the youth haven't been developed and the older players have got too old.

United will look back and realise like they did with Moyes and LVG that Mourinho wasn't the right fit for our club and he was a bad appointment. This is Jose's self destruct season, sit back and watch.

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19 Jul 2018 14:48:19
United Addict, England were not expected to make it to the quarter finals, so to make it to the semi's is clearly achieving beyond expectation. i.e over achieving.

You say England only played championship standard players, however that is subjective. If a top six EPL team beats a championship side then its no big deal, if a league two side does then its a huge deal. If a fellow championship side beats another championship side then it depends which is considered the better within their own level. England may not have beaten any great sides, but they themselves are a very average side. Harry Kane the only player who can be considered world class. The rest are either squad players at a top six side or a decent player within a mid table side. This England team overachieved, they probably won't do so again however.

I haven't contradicted myself either, Croatia should't have been fresher coming off the back of two 120 minute games. And in the first half they were off the pace and it could be considered the number of minutes had caught up with them. However, once they got out of second gear in the second half, then after they scored the equaliser they were on the up, physically more tired than England yet their improved mental state delayed the effects of that tiredness and allowed them to be the better team. England however, were better in the first half, but once Croatia got a foothold and especially after the equaliser the confidence drained out of them and made them look like the team coming off the back of two 120 games in a week.

England's improved atmosphere greatly improved their performances and carried them to the semi's even though they aren't a great team. However, at the end of the day a lack of quality and experience cost them a place in the final.

If you look at any team in world football, they play the best football when those players are happy, confident and when they don't feel pressure or tension.

When Leicester won the title, they played well right up until they realised they might actually win it, fortunately for them other results went their way and they recovered. But the tension and pressure nearly derailed their title bid.

Gerrards slip, Liverpool were playing the best football in the league that season, yet the pressure got to them and they crumbled.

Keegan's Newcastle the same thing happened. And it has happened countless times with Arsenal in the last 10 years, start the season on fire but the pressure and the atmosphere brings them down.

Players are far more sensitive than they used to be, their performances and their life style choices are under more scrutiny than ever before. Over half of the criticism Paul Pogba receives is about his hairstyle more than his football.

That is why it is harder than ever for managers to keep the players happy and playing well and why few managers finish 3 years at a club.

I don't think the way to succeed in modern football is with 1970's techniques. Managers need to adapt to the modern world and modern players. Football is an entertainment industry and fans expect entertainment. Players are over paid softies, but it is a managers job to deal with that and handle them in a way that gets the most out of them. Slating them and creating a negative atmosphere is not the best way and it won't work long term.

Jose's recent comments just highlight how unhappy he is and how this season will follow a similar trajectory to last. Jose needs to improve the players we have and he won't do that by constantly grinding them down with overly negative press conferences and by skulking about grimacing at everyone.

Shappy