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17 Jul 2018 11:05:15
169 Goals at this years World Cup. Which means I'd like to invite.
Salah - 167
Jamesmack8 - 165
Red Reaper - 162
Laney - 160

To play in the 2019 Matt Hawker charity game.
Thanks to everyone who had a guess, and any drop outs I'll contact the next closest.

Next phase will be when Ed001 and 002 pick their two tribes to go to war.
We did a live chat where they took turns picking last year, I think we did it around November? So let's aim for then :)

Posted on behalf of Benny Baller.

Shappy

{Ed002's Note - I'll get on to the kits then.}


1.) 17 Jul 2018 14:09:58
Last time Salah will win anything this season ;)


 

 

03 Feb 2017 14:43:44
What do people make of the rumour this morning that along with Rooney that Martial maybe sold to raise funds for Griezmann?

Things don't seem quite right with Martial this season, he doesn't seem to have the trust of Jose, he has had an unsettled life off the pitch. He was unhappy about losing the No.9 shirt, and his agent was making noises about going to Sevilla on loan.

Our interest in Griezmann seems pretty solid, and the questoon was if he signed who would miss out?

Martial looks a prime candidate for being the one to miss out so maybe the club will look to move him on. Would be sad to see him go as he has so much potential.

Shappy

1.) 03 Feb 2017 15:40:16
If the reports are true that he refused to warm up before the hull game and his attitude stinks then I think we should get rid regardless of how talented he is.

Plenty more players that would jump at the chance to be in his position.


2.) 03 Feb 2017 15:59:17
I can see them both going Shappy, not sure if that is "too raise funds" but it's a nicer way of putting it than "no longer good enough and not professional/ mature enough", to be honest if we expect to be at the top there are about 10 players that need to be replaced with superior ones. Too many of our players have gotten away with simply plodding along for too long and a few others are not progressing or coming to the end of their careers/ effectiveness.

I could list them, but it would be one hell of a long list, more messy than ever when you look at each player in our squad and ask "are they good enough to be a regular starter in a title winning team"? .


3.) 03 Feb 2017 16:03:58
If griezmann comes in someone will have to move on and i think it could be martial .
I don't think rooney going would be tied in to griezmann and i don't think united need to sell to buy .


4.) 03 Feb 2017 16:31:02
If he refuses to try harder it is consistently unprofessional regarding his place in the squad then, after being given a fair chance to improve, he needs to move in. Shane, as very talented.

However, media loves to create mischief with United stories, so hopefully it's something that Mouribgo can successfully address.


5.) 03 Feb 2017 16:31:36
Martial is lazy when he hasn't got the ball. There is no movement from him. He just stands there with his shoulders slumped looking fed up, his body language is awful. I think this is why Jose states he has to do more to earn his place.


6.) 03 Feb 2017 16:43:44
Dave, I'm not sure that's true. Mourinho is a team man and he wouldn't stand for that kind of attitude. Its disrespectful to your team mates and creates a bad atmosphere.

I can see why people might consider Martial sulky, he does have a very sullen look about him. He rarely smiles even when he scores.

I think if he really was like that then we might have heard something about it before rather than the press waiting until Mourinho drops him to suddenly start telling the world what he was like.

Beast, will you ever be happy? Were you ever happy with the team? So are you suggesting that DDG is the only player you'd keep? Beyond that we need a whole new 21/ 22 players to build a good squad? A little bit of an over reaction isn't? I'm starting tk think that you would be saying the same things if you were a fan of any other club in the world, everything is being done wrong in your opinion.

Jred, I don't think the club needs to sell to buy, but the wages could be an issue. Martial being sold would help balance the books considering how much Griezmann would cost and the fact that we would probably look to bring in another 3-4 players as well as Greizmann. That could well be close to 200m being spent. We would probably need to recoupe around 100m of that, which means we would need at least one big sale. I think Rooney leaving is more about freeing up the wages rather than any fee we would recieve.

{Ed007's Note - Wazza will get a bumper new contract extension before the summer ;-)


7.) 03 Feb 2017 16:51:03
Hi shaps. I really hope martial will be kept, many sources have claimed he wants to stay and is happy. I think he has gotten better and obviously things happened in the summer that unsettled his person.

I would actually move on ibra to be honest, it would allow a front 4 of martial, rash, griezmann and miki. Much more pace and flexibility. I really like ibra but feel that 1 year was enough and hopefully some of the younger players have learned from him.


8.) 03 Feb 2017 17:11:21
I'd love to know who reported it dave. It's not the first time this season that he hasn't warmed up.

Is this like the story last week where he supposedly didn't go to training? That was a load of crap.


9.) 03 Feb 2017 17:33:59
I said last week, all of sudden everything that happens will be down to martial's attitude. People jump on a comment and then it snow balls.


10.) 03 Feb 2017 17:52:27
Shappy - Well I'm not happy scrapping for 4th place every year mate, so yeah the squad needs a cull. If I were in charge which is what I think you are asking, then the only ones I would keep for the starting 11 (most of our team are squad players at best) .

DDG, Jones, Bailly, Miki, Herrera (on the edge) - none of the rest would make it in my first team. If they pulled their fingers out then Shaw, Martial, Pogba and Ibra would potentially. All the rest of them can go as far as I'm concerned. Players like Rojo, Valencia, Carrick, do well but they should be squad players at best now.

So yeah, I'm not very happy, because too many people beat around the bush. Whinge about not being positive, but if you take a step back it's pretty messy. We need 4-5 top signings and being suitable if Jose isn't going to change how we play.


11.) 03 Feb 2017 19:52:59
Beast would it be possible for you to produce a squad list that you would expect us to have as our current one is so clearly lacking (please be some what realistic)


12.) 03 Feb 2017 20:02:51
Martial was miserable and moody last year but he was playing well so we just accepted it. Now his form has dropped its become a big issue. Only those inside the club know how big an attitude he has but you're either a team player or you're not. If he is let's keep him, if not let's sell him.


13.) 03 Feb 2017 20:28:03
Coleman RB, Rose LB, Vidal CM, Griezzman 2nd striker, wingers are tricky, but I would push Valencia up and give Martial/ Miki a chance to shine with better players on the left or right, they can tuck in well and support the strikers with full backs flying forward. I'd stick with Ibra with 4-4-2. Then hunt for wingers in the next window if necessary.

Those are 4 key signings in the summer I'd make, £175m-£200m. Let go of Mata, Darmian, Shaw, Fellaini, Lingard, Rooney - probably recoup £80-£100m from those, wages would even themselves out roughly.


14.) 03 Feb 2017 20:52:30
Beast, the change from Sir Alex was always going to be tricky, watch Arsenal struggle when Wenger moves on.

You can't have 27 years of one manager and expect a smooth transistion.

Personally I feel a squad is made up of many different players of different levels of talent, fight and personality.

The kind of player you seem to want is a Roy Keane type fighter, but a squad of 25 Keanes would tear itself apart.

Even the most successful squads have bit part players, guys who might not have the same quality as the others but offer something different.

I think on the whole our squad is pretty decent. We are still three or four players away from having a first team capable of functioning as fluidly as Mourinho would like.

I feel the real issue with our team is still the balance at the back. I think we lack real quality full backs, I inclued Valencia and Shaw in that. Shaw has potential, but bar a handful of games at the start of last season we haven't seen him come close to reaching it. Valencia has been a stand out performer this season, but is 31 years old and still his delivery from the flank is erractic and he still gets caught out defensively at times.

I feel the other areas we stuggle is top class holding midfielder, Carrick is well into his twilight years and can't cover as much ground as he used to, and still for me hasn't shaken off the safety first passing of the LvG era. I also feel we need a long term partner for Bailly, someone who can play the ball out of defence quickly and accurately.

I think we are well covered in the goalkeeping department.

I think Blind, Smalling, Jones and Rojo are decent squad defenders. Tuanzebe, TFM and CBJ offer hope for the future.

I think we need a true defensive midfielder, but beyond that Pogba, Herrera, Blind and Fellaini offer good options. Carrick and Schweinsteiger offer experience, and I like the look of both TFM and Andreas Pereira as young options coming though. Its a good balance.

I think for the most part our forward options look very good. In the long term we will need a replacement for Rooney/ Ibrahimovic as a central striking option. And depending on the development of Martial, Rashford and Lingard maybe another option, possibly someone more like a true wide man rather than a striker playing wide or a No.10 shunted out wide.

We have a lot of very good young players, Bailly, Shaw, Tuanzebe, TFM, Pereira, Lingard, Martial and Rashford.
We need to see how these players develop before we can right any of them off.

I don't think the squad is that far off a really top one to be honest.


15.) 03 Feb 2017 21:22:59
Agree with a lot of that mate. Trouble is we aren't playing to the strengths of our squad and we have too many squad players, or players that put in a lot of 6/ 7 out 10 performances but not too many regularly putting in the 8/ 9 out of 10's.

We have a lot of passengers, waiting for somebody to do something, too happy to leave it to the next guy and do the easy thing. Ironically the two magical players we signed are the biggest passengers of the bunch. We need 2 or 3 players with that drive an urgency, that will encourage the rest of the team to work, run off the ball, not always think safety first.

We aren't far away, but 4-5-1 is a bad formation because it's a balancer, teams like Hull, Stoke can match up and it's hard to break them down. 4-4-2, will mean it upsets those teams, opens us up but means they have to attack and that leaves space.

We need to be a bit cleverer and a bit more energetic. But we need to replace some of those squad players with top class players in their position, too many average players.


16.) 03 Feb 2017 21:37:02
I think our forward line is one of our biggest issues they can't score and struggle to hold onto the ball or be the first line of defence. Just way too many slow old average players. We lack real quality throughout the team. If we all picked our favourite team from Europe assuming we were still in it we wouldn't have a player in it. ( maybe a keeper) That's criminal for the richest club on the planet.


17.) 04 Feb 2017 12:36:29
We don't need to raise funds. That's Woodys job an he's good at it.

Young, Rooney, Darmian, rojo could all be off come summer. Bastian probably as well.

If Griezmann comes in he'd be first choice with zlatan maybe taking a back seat.


18.) 06 Feb 2017 20:08:45
Agree with a lot of that and players are only running on 6/ 10 apart from bailly, Herrera, Jones, Miki and rojo which you lot want axed? Is he not good to have as cover?

We need a vote here too see how many believe griezmann will make it at UTD and not turn into another Forlan.

AG fits well into the way AM play. We do not play like AM and I think it will take AG a season to play well.


19.) 08 Feb 2017 19:20:01
AG is probably one of the only players in world football who can hold a candle to Messi and ronaldo.

I am quite sure he would be able to fit into any team, he is that good.


 

 

26 May 2016 10:33:08
I hope there is some substance in this Manolas rumour. For me he is probably about the best option open to us. Strong, quick, great in the air, excellent reader of the game. A no nonsense type defender but one with good technique and a communicator and leader at the back.

He is the kind of centre back we can pair with anyone and he'll work well with them.

I'd still want to see someone else come in, Varane, Marquinhos, Stones or Bartra would work well with Manolas.

In fact for someone like Stones who has a mistake in him, and who needs to improve the defensive side of his game having a player such as Manolas alongside him and Mourinho on the touchline could be the making of him. I've been wary of Stones as I don't think he would improve our defence atm, but if he was brought in alongside Manolas then it could work well.

Shappy

1.) 26 May 2016 12:15:01
Two CBs are a priority. Signing just one would leave us at risk. I really rate Varane but to sign an English player in Stones is very tempting.

Although if Roshaun Williams and Tuazenbe get promoted and play some games this season that would be an added bonus.


2.) 26 May 2016 12:34:52
I think TFM could also be played at CB under Mourinho. I'd be quite happy to sign Manolas and Bartra a could of lads in their mid twenties to leave space for the likes of TFM, Williams and Tuazenbe to fullfil the roles of talented young players.

I wouldn't be gutted if we signed Stones or Marquinhos, but given their ages it would make it far more difficult for the young CB's coming through as players like Stones or Marqunihos are only a couple of years older than them.


3.) 26 May 2016 12:47:31
For manolas just read otamendi.


4.) 26 May 2016 13:27:27
Agree Manolas is one of the best options available. Mainly because he's one of the only options who compliments what we currently have. His qualities blend well with Smalling's. Shaw, Manolas, Smalling and hopefully a rejuvenated Darmian has the making of a top back line. But agree that an extra centre back would be even better.


 

 

11 Sep 2015 14:12:13
I think people get too hung up over player contracts.

Yes it is excellent news that DDG has signed a new deal, why? Because it now means he will probably play most of our games this season, and with him being one of if not the best keeper in the world atm it certainly makes our team stronger.

The length of a players contract has very little baring on how long a player will stay at a club. Think of it like this 90% of player moves involve a player who is under contract, only around 10% of players see out the full duration of their contracts.

DDG may leave next summer or the summer after that or the one after that. Only two things are certain.
One he will leave at some point, be it either in his prime, the twilight of his career or through retirement.
And two him having a deal with the club means he will be available to play for thr club this season.
Beyond that who knows. Ultimately when he leaves we will look for a replacement. And hopefully it will he someone as good or even better than him.

And for those who say it was all about the money? Probably, isn't the money one of the biggest factors in your career?

But on a serious note, I think he is happy in Manchester, but has a girlfriend who would benefit from having her more famous boyfriend with her on social events in Spain, and an agent who wants to make money.

As it stands he will earn more money and based on his performances he probably deserves it, and he will probably stay at the club for a few more years.

Now let's just sit back and appreciate the fact we have one of the best keepers in the world playing for us. let's enjoy it.

Shappy

1.) 11 Sep 2015 14:28:55
i don't buy in to all the family stuff i just think like a lot of players he wanted to play for madrid.
that looks to be of the cards so he has took the cash and stopped at united.

great news for us


2.) 11 Sep 2015 15:28:47
Jred, from what I heard his family thought it better he stay in Manchester considering the circus that goes on in Madrid.
I think it was his girlfriend and maybe his agent who seemed most keen on his moving to Madrid.

I also think Madrid have been trying everything they can to clear themselves from any blame over the collapse of his move so as to make sure they didn't burn any bridges knowing that it was possible he would sign a new deal. I expect now he has signed a new deal Madrid will become very quiet over his non move.


3.) 11 Sep 2015 18:44:10
Well done Shappy, couldn't agree more (other than the bit about deserving the money. No one deserves that amount of money, especially for playing a game. It's not exactly saving lives or advancing humanity. )

But yes you're right, let's enjoy that he's staying and accept that he will probably be gone in the next season or two. Wise words mate.


4.) 11 Sep 2015 20:18:05
Have to disagree with ihatefootball's opinion on players deserving the amount of money they get paid. When you look at the massive amounts the teams are earning through apparel and jersey sales, ticket sales, concessions, Champions League- the players deserve every penny they can get. Nobody pays to watch us kick about on the weekends. They pay to watch the best players in the world at their jobs.

When you hear about players like Messi paying a sick childs medical bills how can you find a complaint with how much they earn?

{Ed007's Note - Aye, it's not every sick kid that can get a football club to pay for private 'treatments'.}


5.) 11 Sep 2015 22:28:03
Maybe I am attributing ill motives to RM, but it seemed to me that their tactic was to maximise the chance that they could sign de Gea for free in 2016. They have failed. I congratulate the powers that be in Utd for standing firm.
So, what abut Monaco? I have yet to see any report that the total fee for Martial is not extortionate. They will need a replacement. Why not make sure that the price that they pay is also excessive? When they identify the replacement, put in a higher bid , but graciously allow them to better it (or not). Make good use of Utd's financial muscle.
Red Setter


6.) 11 Sep 2015 23:01:45
I'm sorry??? You what??? You agree that players should get paid £200,000 a week for kicking a ball around some grass? Best at their job in the world maybe but at kicking a ball round a field. It is DISGUSTING the amount of money they are paid. Can you not put it into perspective? Get a grip!

{Ed007's Note - You can't blame the players, what do you expect them to say? 'Here never mind that £100k a week plus appearance money, goal scoring bonus and image rights, give me £2k a week and a leased Ford Focus?'
Blame Sly TV for the mess football is in, we expect the players to work as hard as some guy sitting welding all day and putting a hard shift in, why shouldn't they do what the welder does and weld where he gets paid the most.
I really can't lay the blame at the crazy wages going around on players, it's the people providing the money and the people distributing it that need to look at it.
Years ago the clubs held all the power but now it's swung to the players calling the shots, what we need to find is a happy medium but sadly I think it's went too far now and that's never going to happen.
For anyone over 30, football is never going to be the same or as enjoyable ever again for us, and that breaks my heart.}


7.) 12 Sep 2015 06:17:47
Ihatefootball- i do understand your point. If you think of it in its basic terms as just a game with grown men out in a field kicking a ball then it's absolutely rediculous. The reality is football is a business and they are the star attractions in an industry that generates billions.

In any business you have to spend in order to have a competitive advantage over your competition and I'm proud to support the club and am thrilled they are investing back in the team to buy or keep some of the worlds best players. Without De Gea we probably wouldn't be in the Champions League which is worth millions to the club.

Ed007 I'd love to find a happy medium, but as long as club profits continue to raise then I'd imagine player wages will as well.

{Ed002's Note - There are constraints within FFP in respect of the wages.}


8.) 12 Sep 2015 08:59:34
Rumours in Spain that there is a release clause for 50 million in the contract.


9.) 15 Sep 2015 12:57:49
He signed a contract out of respect but there will be a clause in the contract that if real madrid put in such an such amount then he goes. let's not get hard ons over it


 

 

02 Oct 2014 07:18:58
Looks like we are about to make a key new signing.

Welcome Matt Radcliffe.

Shappy

1.) He is very good mates with Luke Shaw, who has been feeling a little homesick since his move, hopefully it will help him settle as well as helping deal with injuries.


2.) Could be one of the best signings of the summer if he can reduce the injury list


 

 

 

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16 Sep 2018 22:44:52
Has anyone seen Zlatan's 500th career goal scored for LA Galaxy?

Wow, the guy is phenomenal. How I wish we had got him earlier in his career. Only Zlatan could score a goal like that.

Shappy

1.) 17 Sep 2018 08:20:53
499 goals and then he goes and invents a whole new CATEGORY of goal. What was that? It was like a spinning heel kick (in wrestling) . Amazing.


2.) 17 Sep 2018 10:31:54
A thing of beauty!


3.) 17 Sep 2018 11:33:31
He must be part ninja.


4.) 17 Sep 2018 12:15:52
Wrong way round rddu. Ninjitsu is part Zlatan.


5.) 17 Sep 2018 14:07:47
Love it Betty, are you part Zlatan?


6.) 17 Sep 2018 16:44:27
Zlatan is part Betty!


7.) 17 Sep 2018 18:14:30
Huggy, we are all Zlatan.


 

 

31 Aug 2018 10:00:25
Quite happy with the UCL group. We have in recent years tripped up when given an easier group on paper. Over confidence, lack of focus, or lack of knowledge on the team we are playing. I don't know. But we have failed in groups we should have won at a canter.

Juventus will be a tough game, however, we can't be slaughtered too much if we lose against them.

Valencia are a very good young team. Marcelino is a very good young manager who gets his team's playing well, with a trust in youth. We have Andreas Pereira who spent a season with them last year so he knows all about them. And I expect people within our club kept an eye on Valencia's games to track how Pereira was developing. So we should know plenty about them, and we are less likely to underestimate them.

Young boys, on paper is an easier game, also it isn't a bad trip to the far flung corners of Europe to play an away game. Jose being a pragmatist will be drumming it into the players about the importance of getting 6 points against them. I expect we'll be tight and compact in Turin and Valencia, and I hope we show a little more ambition when we welcome them at Old Trafford.

It's a tough group, but hopefully that focust the mind and get the best out of our players. If we can get our squad performing somewhere near 100% then we are capable of winning all the games in the group. It's now down to Jose and the players to perform to their potential.

Shappy

1.) 31 Aug 2018 10:14:39
Good summary mate, I agree with your assessment. Valencia will be very tricky, very good going forward. It will mean that Jose fields his best 11 for at least 4 games and probably all 6 as he will want to pick up those 6 points against the 'whipping boys'. We need some consistency in team selection and this will help for once.


2.) 31 Aug 2018 12:05:49
The order of the fixtures couldn't be much better for us really, easiest away game 1st and then the two tougher home games, you would hope we can get 6 or 7 points from these 3 games and get ourselves into a good position with Young Boys still to play at home.

Very happy we have a tricky group, last year was a bit boring and the fun seems to have disappeared a little from supporting United at the moment. This group seems more fun and I am already really looking forward to Valencia and Juve at home, fingers crossed we get through, I know the doom and gloom merchants are out in force saying they expect us to go out but I think we will be in much better form by the time the CL gets going properly and hopefully play some good stuff.


3.) 31 Aug 2018 14:49:36
The only silver lining if we get knocked out of the group stages is that we would be able to concentrate on winning the league after that .

{Ed002's Note - I expect Sam will be looking to still do well in the Europa League.}


4.) 31 Aug 2018 15:56:31
If we replace Jose with Sam in the next few days then I can see us competing for the triple this year. He will have more time to get across his ideas and tactical know how.


5.) 31 Aug 2018 16:26:48
We’d see the best of Fellaini under big Sam.


6.) 31 Aug 2018 16:51:29
We'd win the pint of gravy drinking championships.


 

 

13 Aug 2018 22:29:46
VDS one of the names rumoured to be on our shortlist for director of football role.

What does everyone think not VDS as DoF?

Shappy

1.) 13 Aug 2018 22:47:02
He will be a good apppointment.


2.) 14 Aug 2018 07:36:24
Hopefully all applicants will have a clear defined idea of a pattern of play and therefore aim for a manager and players to suit. It seems opportune that after a poor transfer we now seem to be looking for a DoF, perhaps it was deliberate so the new appointee has money to work with. The cynic in me wonders if the new DoF sacks Mourinho then it excuses Woodward a bit, new direction and ideas not that Woodward made any error.

As to the who, the board should have definitions of what their strategic aim is (other than commercial) and it should define the appointment. VDS affiliation with Ajax is known, LvG didn’t work so is Ajax style what VDS wants and if so does that match with the board. Or do we want someone with continental knowhow and bring something new?


3.) 14 Aug 2018 07:55:34
VDS is well respected in the football world and it will be his character and conviction that will secure the deals.
RedMan, i think he will be intelligent enough to pick players who can fit in any system. I think good players can play in any system and develop their games to suit the system.
With Mourinho, we do not have a clear system, the players look confused most of the time.
VDS will be a fantastic choice. The only other person that i thought might be looked at is Xavi. He's never played in our league, but he has always followed it closely and seems very knowledgeable. He is also very well respected throughout the football world and is in touch with the Spanish and South American market.


4.) 14 Aug 2018 08:09:28
There’s only one man for the job - LVG.

{Ed0333's Note - you shouldn’t mess with the supernatural mate.


5.) 14 Aug 2018 09:50:02
VDS for DOF would be VG but LVG would make me SMH and say .


6.) 14 Aug 2018 09:42:45
Imagine that Tony LVG and jose beasts head would explode.


7.) 14 Aug 2018 10:51:06
Looking at what he has done since he finished playing I think VDS could potentially be a good appointment. Brought up in the Ajax way of playing and an ex great of the club. I think he would bring back an identity that has been missing and would ensure that all Manager/ Coach appointments fit that model. Could do worse.


8.) 14 Aug 2018 11:18:39
I know its pointless just picking names out of thin air, but there is one person that I personally think would be worth consideration. Huge experience in the game, a wealth of knowledge and very well respected. Also has in depth knowledge of Manchester United and English football.
Carlos Queiroz.

{Ed002's Note - He has zero relevant experience in such a role and has never been involved in dealing with the main players in club football. It would be another terrible mistake to go down that road.}


9.) 14 Aug 2018 11:28:22
Got to be Gary Neville for me.


10.) 14 Aug 2018 11:56:24
I like the one dear of a former player in that role, someone who knows the club inside out. However, they must have the relevant business acumen, and ideally the right contacts.

VDS or Gary Neville could therefore be good candidates.

On the other side it might be better to get someone with the relevant experience in such a role to start with. Someone who know how the role works making the transition from our current setup to the new one much more smoother. Then down the line look to someone like Gary Neville or VDS.


11.) 14 Aug 2018 12:47:25
I saw the name Monchi mentioned but have not had time to look him up.


12.) 14 Aug 2018 14:57:55
Monchi has only been at Roma for about a year. Credited a lot for the success at Sevilla.
Van der Saar is an interesting choice. He knows United well and seems to be just as competent behind the scenes as he was between the posts.
Would the remit of the DoF role at United involve much involvement with youth development and set up or will
it be more working with the board and transfer strategy based and taking a bit of pressure of Mourinho? Is there a possibility that the board envisage Mourinho leaving and want someone in place to run things while a manager is found? Does the board actually want that and are they trying to engineer that scenario? Is Mourinho open to the idea of a DoF or does he feel it undermines him? Either way, it does seem to be the way forward, if the right person is found. So not Quieroz for me, he falls out with everyone and not very diplomatic. Him and Mourinho would be very dour football.


13.) 14 Aug 2018 19:05:47
The lads suggesting Gary Neville, do you mind asking, what makes you think he’d be good in the role?


14.) 14 Aug 2018 21:11:03
Top football knowledge, probably good contacts, and appears to have a bit of business acumen. Intimate knowledge of the club as well.


15.) 15 Aug 2018 09:14:52
VDS or Brian McClair. Not Gary Neville he couldn't Manage so why even consider him for a more executive role 😆😆.


16.) 15 Aug 2018 10:32:18
What's managing got to do with it? None of the top DOF's seem to have been managers. Or successful ones anyway.


17.) 14 Aug 2018 08:50:44
Itsh the piloshophy Ed, enjoy a red wine and a mince pie while the fence are singing Lois Van Gaal army, Lois Van Gaal army,

{Ed0333's Note - I really can’t see LVG returning to United in any capacity he’s still incredibly bitter in the way he was sacked. Maybe he’d come back as an arsonist?


 

 

10 Aug 2018 19:24:38
I posted the other day that I have been struggling to feel excited about United in recent months.

However, I must say as I sit awaiting the first game of the season I am feeling a little excited in spite of my belief that it will all come crashing down this season.

Maybe Jose will stumble upon a winning formula, maybe Pogba will be the player we know he can be, maybe the club I love will return to its former glory.

It appears in spite of logic hope is winning me over. Please Jose don't kill that hope tonight.

Shappy

1.) 10 Aug 2018 19:37:33
I'm with you Shappy, let's pull together and do our part in making this a successful season. Pogba captain today, Shaw starting, Bailey and Lindelof CB pairing. Lots that make the start of season positive.
I'm even putting £10 on 3-1.


2.) 10 Aug 2018 19:38:48
I can't wait we have a great set of players, get them playing well could be a very good season.


3.) 10 Aug 2018 19:43:51
Same here mate. Despite the justifiable gloom, first game of the season even makes Beasts mood bloom. Nothing like it.

Interesting with Pogba as captain and nice to see Pereira and Shaw playing. Come on Utd.


4.) 10 Aug 2018 19:52:23
It will be a very entertqining game today with Sanchez and Rashford to score.


5.) 10 Aug 2018 19:54:53
Shappy your a gas man.
Yeah hope is ertenal. I think he can squeeze an ectra 5 ooints out of the team this season. Will it be enough? Only time will tell.
carra and nev talking a lot of sense as usual.


 

 

09 Aug 2018 14:23:39
This place has been very doom and gloom over the past 6-8 weeks. It has caused a very clear split. Now maybe those dissenting voices are the loudest and those contented people less vocal. However, there does appear to be more people unhappy than happy with our club atm.

Now on the surface there is little to be unhappy about, especially when we compare our situation with that of the majority of clubs. We spend big sums on some of the best players in the world, we don't finish outside of European qualifying positions in the league, and last season we finished second.

However, there is still a feeling of unease for many people. So where does that sense of discontentment come from?

Are our fans just spoiled? Too much of a good thing under Sir Alex has created a high level of expectation.

Maybe it was Sir Alex who was extraordinary and not the club. Maybe we were a decent club with a phenomenal manager lifting us beyond ourselves and now he has gone we can see ourselves in the cold light of day. Like the guy waking up with the worst hangover and looking in the mirror unable to recognise that awesome guy from last night.

I don't quite believe that, we had success before Sir Alex, and since he has left we have maintained a position as one of the wealthiest and most powerful clubs in world football.

However, we seem directionless, drifting with no real intent. The owners have their part to play. How them bought the club left a bitter taste in many a fans mouth. It probably stopped us from competing at a European level due to financial restrictions when the side was arguably approaching our peak, and it certainly restricted the rebuild of the 08-10 side that did so well in Europe. Great players allowed to leave and few great players coming in to replace them. No value in the market we were told, yet since then we have signed players like Shaw, Herrera, Mata, Di Maria, Bailly, Lindelof, Pogba, Matic, Lukaku and now Fred for fees in excess of 30m. A couple three times that 30m figure.
When "no value" was trotted out, what they meant was the clubs debts were too demanding to make such figures available for investment.

This caused a level of stagnation within the squad which has taken serious investment to clear out and replace.

This though, is in the past. The owners have shown intent to invest (albeit money the club has made itself) on players.

For me though, the biggest blessing with the owners is also the biggest problem. They allow the club to run itself, they do not interfere with footballing matters. Which we have seen from many owners is destabilising and damaging. However, this is also a serious problem as it leaves it very ambiguous about who is directing the club and in which direction. Woodward isn't a football man, he has learned quickly and done his best. Yet, he still lacks the contacts and know-how of the inner workings of the game.

This is why I am a big advocate of having a director of football, someone to build for the future of the club with a vision in mind and a level of continuity that gives a stable platform for growth. Someone who knows what the clubs footballing profile is, and who can match that profile with the kind of manager that is in touch with our footballing philosophy.

That brings be back to why so many of us have a feeling of dread this summer. Nearly everyone on this site was in agreement that last season we lacked quality in the full back positions, stability in central defence, someone to link midfield with the forward line while we also lacked creativity on the right hand side. So most thought we needed a LB, RB, CB, CM and RW. Jose himself has spoken about wanting five players.
So far the club has signed two of the five most think we could do with.
I don't think it is this in itself that makes people concerned, I think for most this is a sign that something isn't quite right behind the scenes. Jose has been very vocal in the media and he hasn't been positive at all. Whether he is trying to pressure the club to get the players he wants, or whether he is trying to engineer a way out of the club, or whether he is trying to create an us Vs the world mentality or just unhappy with life. It is not a good sign.

We have players who are reportedly unhappy, a manager who is reportedly unhappy and a board who don't seem to want to spend on Jose's targets for whatever reason.

All of this points to a tense and unstable landscape behind the scenes.

My interpretation is that the board aren't as confident in Jose as they were last summer, they don't seems to want to back him and Jose is kicking up his usual stink. This will only end one way. Either Jose will force our side (flaws in all) to win the league next season or it will all implode. Looking at the personalities within our dressing room I feel imploding a far more likely outcome. Especially if we don't see the unhappy players leave this summer.

It's a shame, I am normally one of the happy, optimistic posters. I have much to be happy about outside of football, with buying a house, getting married and starting University all happening or have happened over the next couple of months. Yet, I can't help but feel the unease at our club. And try as I might, I can't see a happy ending to the Jose saga this season.

Shappy

1.) 09 Aug 2018 15:00:19
Couldn't have said it better myself shappy, great post.
We are a directionless club at the minute, with absentee owners and a chief exec who is not a football man. I know a lot don't like Jose, I didn't agree with him becoming manager of our club either but I fear that the same outcome may occur no matter who the manager, that being said the football may be better.
I cannot see any alternative to save (please don't pick up on just this word SAVE as I know we finished 2nd and got 80 pts last season but I feel there is something not right) our great club, other than to inplement a DOF type model.

I also just read something this morning showing how Liverpools transfer activity this summer has been a plan 4 years in the making. I wish I was reading these kind of stories about our great club.

Either way I will support this club until the day I die. GGMU!


2.) 09 Aug 2018 16:29:54
Top post Shappy.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 16:20:39
Excellent post Shappy. It is the way i feel at present too. I know some people think we are spoilt due to Fergie era, but I've been watching United when we were good in late 60s, then in early 70s when we weren't very good, then the gradual up and downs in 80s before Fergie came. But this is the first time i have felt no excitement at the season starting.
I think the general mood of the manager, and the lack of enthusiasm from our owners, is putting a dampner on things. I can't see light at the end of this tunnel, and i think a big shake up is required, and i mean in the shape of new owners with different ambitions for the football side of the club. Only then we will start to get back on track.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 16:49:53
What did we win in the 5 year before fergy?
How long did we go with out winni g the league?
People starting to see that we have no god given right to win things, that it's not as simple as they though ( ask any Scouser) .
Fergy was the difference.


 

 

 

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02 Sep 2018 14:30:40
Is our defence that bad?

We have DDG in goal, arguably one of the best goalkeepers in the world if not the best.

Valencia has been solid defensively it is his poor end product when getting forward that let's him down.

Dalot, looks a good prospect at RB to replace Valencia in the not too distant future.

At LB we have Shaw who has been one of our best players so far this season.

Young, did a great job last season and could cover again this season if need be.

Bailly, is our best CB. And is actually a great young defender. He is clearly lacking confidence atm.

Lindelof had a great year at Benfica before joint us, and was excellent for Sweden at the world cup. He too appears to be lacking confidence, he actually played well in the final month or two of last season.

Jones when fit rarely let's us down.

Both Smalling and Rojo have their limitations, mostly prone to a silly error. But on the whole they haven't been awful bar the odd game or two.

I agree there are a few better defenders out there but they are few and far between. I think too much was made of the need to sign a CB this summer and maybe it's undermined our current CB's confidence.

I think the better approach would be to shift focus during games and spend more time going forward and therefore inviting less pressure on our defence.

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02 Sep 2018 10:53:13
Spot on. These aren't players who don't have the qualities to be huge successes here, just players who for whatever reason aren't performing to the level they are capable of.

Surely the focus now should be getting the most out of these players.

There has been a lot of negativity on here recently, and I am guilty of being overly negative in recent months.

However, if Shaw, Bailly, Lindelof, Pogba, Sanchez, Martial, Rashford and Lukaku can all play to their potential we have a team more than capable of challenging and even winning titles. Add to that players like DDG, Matic, Herrera, Fred, Lingard, Mata and Valencia who are very good players who have all done well or have the potential to do very well for us.
Then look at young players such as Dalot and Andreas Pereira who could step up this year. As well as players like Tuanzebe, TFM, Chong and Homes who look like great prospects for the future.

We have a lot to look forward to. What we need is to get the best out of what we have while nurturing the younger players and help them grow.

Shappy

{Ed025's Note - if as you say shappy that these players are top quality (which i agree with by the way) then something somewhere is not right, i believe its down to the manager not being good enough myself as his job is to motivate these players to be the best they can be, people will point to his past record but thats exactly what it is... the past, the game has evolved and managers like klopp, pep and pocchetino are the example to follow with their brand of exciting high tempo football which is not only effective but pleasing on the eye mate, and until you ditch the dinosaur things at united will not change im afraid...just my opinion of course..


 

 

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19 Aug 2018 08:19:30
Or dropped, he was poor last week against Leicester.

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15 Aug 2018 10:13:01
Given Mourinho's record it is highly probable that we will need a new manager come next summer.

Merely speculating whether people would want Zidane, a manager who has won three UCL titles back to back. If not then who do they want it/ when Jose leaves.

Shappy

 

 

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15 Aug 2018 07:30:56
He wouldn't be my first choice, or even in my top three. Jardim, Marcelino and Eddie Howe would be the top three I would consider. Giovanni van Bronckhorst would be another to keep a close eye on.

Of course having the correct DoF would be needed if we were to go for one of these kinds of managers.

Shappy

 

 

 

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15 Sep 2018 17:43:10
AAA, are you seriously wondering why Jose picked a follower and not a leader for his captain?

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14 Sep 2018 22:03:17
Or Pep's "special" doctor is.

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13 Sep 2018 07:59:57
Looking at our squad we have three potentially great strikers, at least three very good/ great No.10's and no natural wingers.

Two of our three potentially great strikers are young and need minutes.

Personally I think we should be playing a diamond formation without wingers, making two striker positions available so that Rashford and Martial can rotate and play in their best position alongside Lukaku taking some of the strain off them and Lukaku.

While Sanchez, Lingard and Mata can fight it out for the No.10 position.

It would also give us a midfield three stopping us getting over run in the middle.

BOTH Rashford and Martial are potentially great players for us. However, we have to get them minutes in their best position if they are to reach that potential.

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12 Sep 2018 08:29:33
In my opinion this isn't the game to play him in. There is a good chance of it being a potential banana skin, Jose has often hung the blame for losses around the necks of young players. If Dalot doesn't put in a man of the match performance, and we lose then his chances might be slim for the next month or so. Especially if he makes a costly mistake.

The lad only played a handful of games for Porto's first team. He is lacking experience at this level. To throw him in to a tricky away game so shortly after he has recovered from injury (I don't think he has played 90 minutes in any game since his injury) against a side yet to lose who play with a level of physicality he will have never experienced is just setting him up for a hiding to nothing.

I want to see him play as much as the next person, his performances for the under 23's looked very promising. However, his rehabilitation from the first big injury of his career has to be managed carefully, especially as he has moved country and is stepping up into a far more competitive league. It is important that he is eased in gently and against the right opposition.

He won't be given the chances to play through the mistakes and given the backing that DDG had when he first moved to us.

In fact I'm certain that if Jose was our manager when DDG came to us, he would have been dropped and sold within two years and we wouldn't now have arguably the world best keeper.

That's a thought to ponder on when Jose is dropping players like Rashford, Martial and Shaw for small mistakes.

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11 Sep 2018 19:00:59
Without RvP we wouldn't have won our last title. He scored so many vital goals in Sir Alex's final season.

However, we were linked with Lewandowski at the same time. I always wonder what would have been if we signed him instead of RvP.

Shappy