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01 Aug 2019 17:52:09
Maguire left out of squad in friendly.
Looks like United have finally wrapped him up.


1.) 01 Aug 2019 19:48:07
A manikin is a slight improvement on smalling and jones tbh, there is a fantastic thread from @alexLUHS on twitter about him very funny.



30 Jul 2019 10:42:16
Journalist Fabrizio Romano reporting Maguire and Dybala will be United players soon.
Nicolas Pepe to Arsenal it seems.


1.) 30 Jul 2019 11:03:31
Will he be a Gervinho or a Wiltord?



29 Jul 2019 11:13:28
Rumours gathering that Real Madrid have tabled a massive 145m offer for Pogba.


1.) 29 Jul 2019 14:09:40
You appear to have an exclusive that nobody else has heard some three hours after your post.

2.) 29 Jul 2019 15:03:09
Scooby I have seen this reported too so TRD isn't alone.

3.) 29 Jul 2019 15:44:40
Fair enough. I shall keep my eyes and ears open because I haven't seen anything and if it were true I'd expect the press to be all over it. That said I'm definitely not ITK.

4.) 29 Jul 2019 15:48:19
Just found it. The Sun and The Express. Clearly reliable sources. :) )



23 Jul 2019 13:54:13
SMS rumours intensifying.


1.) 23 Jul 2019 15:07:38
Fingers crossed!

2.) 23 Jul 2019 15:23:03
That means, Pogba`s Off to!

3.) 23 Jul 2019 15:29:24
Are they? Wouldn't take much notice after Fernandes has been having a medical for weeks and the same for Maguire 😂.

4.) 23 Jul 2019 15:54:53
Domino effect about to kick in I for one hope SMS is coming to replace Pogba would suit the style OGS is trying to implement a lot more I think.

5.) 23 Jul 2019 15:56:24
I believe the Oxford dictionary states that 'intensifying' can now mean a random rumour off a highly regarded but never seen before football scout on Twitter, who also happens to be 11 years old and goes by the name of Agent Enrique.

6.) 23 Jul 2019 16:02:40
Apparently MUFC have almost agreed a £67million deal to sign Sergej Milinkovic-Savic from Lazio on a five year deal. I shall wait and hope. Which I suspect means somebody might be in for Pogba.

7.) 23 Jul 2019 17:31:49
What or who are the sources for Milinkovic-Savic?

8.) 23 Jul 2019 17:32:49
You mean like we signed Maguire?

9.) 23 Jul 2019 18:01:25
Probably not signing many more and giving the kids a chance.

10.) 23 Jul 2019 18:48:51
WRD quite a few sources are running the story on SMS but I believe the original source came from L. A. REPUBLIICA a rome based publication don't know how credible they are tho.

11.) 24 Jul 2019 01:24:55
If i'm not mistaken Gaitan and Sneijder have been having medicals at carrington for over 10 years already.

12.) 24 Jul 2019 06:35:03
SMS could mean

Sean longstaff
Some body else 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

13.) 24 Jul 2019 08:51:10
SMS, Longstaff, Maguire and Fernandes.
What a transfer window that would be.

14.) 24 Jul 2019 16:02:31
I think we would be doing very well to get SMS Maguire Longstaff OR
Fernandes Maguire Longstaff in at this late stage.

I can only see SMS + Fernandes joining if both Pogba and Lukaku are sold.
To me that's looking less likely.

15.) 24 Jul 2019 17:24:03
Starting to think we are not in for Fernandes maybe looking at Savic as our ACM.

16.) 24 Jul 2019 19:44:13
I wish we just get rid of Pogba and buy both I've got a horrible feeling Pogba will be staying 1 more year and well end up with longstaff.
If we want top 4 we need fernandes or SMS at a minimum not a guy who's played 9 games and coming off a serious injury it just screams alarm bells to me.



20 Jul 2019 11:18:50
Inter bid 54m for Lukaku.
Laughable bid.


1.) 20 Jul 2019 14:09:09
I don't get it they have been told numours times how much we value him just like we were with wan bissaka

And eventually got the deal done.

2.) 20 Jul 2019 15:08:04
My take on the situation is this,

We don't really want Lukaku, but we value him at a ridiculous amount.

The club seems to want to make back at least what they paid for him. Yet they are prepared to sell him as they don't think he is good enough. Ergo he must now be worth less than we paid for him. Yet they aren't prepared to accept less.

The only club's interested in Lukaku are those the next step down from the very best sides. Those teams often don't have the money to spend 75m on one player. No top team who could afford that sort of fee are interested in him.

So the club just needs to accept they overpaid for him a couple of years ago and must now accept a lower amount if they are to off load him and his high wages.

3.) 20 Jul 2019 15:33:51
Lukaku himself wants out. And the club would happily grant his wish. Inter and Conte want him, they should pay the valuation.

4.) 20 Jul 2019 16:16:58
Unless UTD can start an auction for Lukaku then it is unlikely the will get anywhere near what they paid for him. How many teams are interested in Lukaku to start an auction?

Take what you can get and move on.

5.) 20 Jul 2019 16:31:56
If we can get our money back, £70M+£15M in add-ons, if think would be fair.

The market has risen since he singed. Also⤵️
He has been our most prolific forward in his 2 years.
Excellent international record.
Positive influence.

In reality £100-120m with add-ons in today's market.

But we are looking to play in a new style and the time is good for all parties to leave mean -£15m/ -15% below market seems very fair.

If can't afford it that's not our problem. I'm sure Ole would like Mbappe to cover for Greenwood 😁 but we can't afford it.

6.) 20 Jul 2019 17:12:04
Red Devils Advocate, no one wants him bar Inter Milan. He isn't worth what we paid for him. He is a talented but limited striker. He'll score goals if played a certain way, but lacks the ability to adapt. That limitation is what stops the top teams wanting him.

He for me is exactly the sort of player as Maguire. Talented and if played in a certain way he can be an asset. Yet there are serious flaws in their game that stops them being truly in the top class bracket.

Just how we are now realising we overpaid for Lukaku and as such if we are to move him on it will be at a loss. I feel the same thing is likely to happen with Maguire.

Fact is Lukaku is a 50-60m player at most. We paid a premium, we can't expect anyone else to pay that as well.

7.) 20 Jul 2019 17:47:16
A player is worth what someone is willing to sell or pay for.

Let's see what happens before getting our knickers in a twist but either way Inter will pay more than £60M.

8.) 20 Jul 2019 18:52:38
I agree with Shappy, plus if he spends a season warming the bench because his style doesn't fit the system, then his value will just plummet.

9.) 20 Jul 2019 20:26:29
Disagree Shappy. Just because OGS doesn’t see Lukaku as essential for the style he wants to play doesn’t mean his value has dropped. Supply and demand based on style of play. Simple.

10.) 20 Jul 2019 20:34:46
Shappy, why should the club take a loss on a player who they paid £75 million on and he still has 3 years on his contract. We’re in a era where Leicester want £80+ million for Harry Maguire.
It’s widely accepted that when United want a player his price goes up, we can’t then be seen to sell our players for less than ‘WE’ value him. We’re the ones in a strong position here, why sell yourself short?

11.) 20 Jul 2019 20:36:15

You keep saying FACT? Surely this is your opinion? Unless you work in the world of football finance?

12.) 20 Jul 2019 20:54:54
Felix went to Atletico based on potential for €130m, Lukaku in the right environment has the potential to score 30+ goals a season. What message does it send if we sell players with that type of potential for less than market value? Especially when clubs are interested in pogba, who only fulfilled a fraction of his potential last season.

13.) 20 Jul 2019 21:01:48
Shappy, who says he is only a 50-60 million player? The club don't think so. But it's a fact? I'm confused.

14.) 20 Jul 2019 23:14:10
Simple name me a club that will pay more than 60m for him?

15.) 21 Jul 2019 01:28:59
If you get offered 60 million bite there hand off.

16.) 21 Jul 2019 03:59:48
Inter will pay more than 60m imo I think he'll go for 70m.

17.) 21 Jul 2019 06:22:21
How do I know who will pay that? How is that simple? Makes it a fact now😂.

18.) 21 Jul 2019 06:24:02
Lukaku is FACT a 50-60M player but we paid 75M? The fact there is we paid 75m for him.

19.) 21 Jul 2019 09:13:28
Actually glad for once Utd are being firm with an asking price, for too long we have been crap selling players for low fees. 2 million for Berbatov anyone 🤷‍♂️.

20.) 21 Jul 2019 09:46:12
He’s not worth less he just doesn’t fit how Ole wants to play.

21.) 21 Jul 2019 10:28:44
I don't think we're in as strong a position as some say. He will not play much for us this season, if at all. Totally unsuited to our style of play. Clubs will know this, They will know we don't want to be stuck with a player who won't be playing, especially on his wages.

22.) 21 Jul 2019 11:34:42
Well let's see what he sells for. Inter made an opening offer of €60m which is around £55m after a month of negotiations. So they must feel that that is pretty close to what he is worth.

23.) 21 Jul 2019 11:47:02
26 years old 146 epl goals, 48 internation goals 22 in his last 26 for Belgium.
Every bit a 75mil striker, at least.

24.) 21 Jul 2019 12:06:20
Agree jred. He just does not fit what OGS wants to do.

Inter would like him cheap but they won't get him.

25.) 21 Jul 2019 12:37:47
Most of what everyone is saying is totally irrelevant, you could spend all summer pushing to make your money back then a cash strapped inter walk away. There are no other clubs interested so lukaku stays at United with a questionable attitude to not playing, you don't get to replace the player and the problems of last season rear their heads again. i'm sure the club will get what they can for him but inter are not cash rich and any deal will be spread over 3 seasons.

26.) 21 Jul 2019 14:38:40
Whoever at UTD have made the decision to price out Lukaku and Pogba from moving to Inter and Madrid seriously need to have their heads seen to.

There are no other takers for these two players. So UTD will go into the new season with two of your top earners either being on holiday or disrupting your dressing room when you should be clearing out bad blood in order to move on? Surely?

I know many of you will be jumping on the bandwagon and tell me to go concentrate on the my own team.

If UTD decide to stick to their stance of holding out for the right money for 2 players who are not in UTD's plans going forward then your hole will just become deeper.

Question for all the UTD fans commenting on here.

Are Pogba and Lukaku part of your plans moving forward and does anyone on here think Pogba will move to Madrid for a world record transfer fee as well as Inter meeting UTD's demands transfer fee wise?

Just because Conte wants Lukaku does not mean it is going to happen at £90m or whatever it is UTD value him at. If he was the golden boot winner last season then maybe. How many goals did Lukaku score last season?

{Ed004's Note - By all accounts we have been offered 54 million for Lukaku. Not sure how that can be deemed a reasonable offer when they demanded 50 million for Perisic and in a market were Joao Felix went for 120 million euros and Maguire is priced at 80 million.

On Pogba the only reported bid was for 80 million euros. In what world should utd bend over for opposition clubs and then spend a premium on their players? Madrid wanted us to pay 80 million euros for Morata 2 seasons ago. So Morata and Pogba are worth the same? Also bare in mind that Pogba is amongst the top 3 most marketable players in world football and is the heartbeat of our midfield.

I dont mind these players leaving but theyre under contract and both have a good few years left on them. I expect Lukaku to leave but fully expect Pogba to stay at least one more season}

27.) 21 Jul 2019 15:47:00
Very well said Ed004. I am all for players leaving and keeping them. against their wishes but we need to treat clubs the same way we get treated when we go out to buy a player.

28.) 21 Jul 2019 15:49:36
Perisic is still at Inter so makes no difference as nobody willing to pay what Inter have asked for him otherwise he would have left them already. I am sure they would still be willing to let him go but no takers at the price they want so makes your comment about Perisic void.

Neither Lukaku or Pogba have been ripping out trees at UTD.

If Lukaku had gotten the golden boot last season and Pogba won player of the year then show me the money.

What Joao Felix went for has got absolutely nothing to do with this as you or I have no idea what the finer details were such as clauses in his contract when wanting to purchase him.

Lukaku is not worth nowhere near what UTD paid for him. You think City will pay what UTD are requesting for Lukaka even if they were interested in signing him, any other side as a matter of fact when there is very little interest.

This isnot like signing Pepe who will go for one hell of a fee once somebody signs him as just about every top club has an interest in Pepe.

{Ed004's Note - Pogba was our top goal scorer, top assister, covered most ground, got most motm awards for utd last season, most passes, most dribbles etc so to say hes not ripped up trees a year after winning the world cup is a bit of an odd statement. Lukaku at age 25 is his national sides top goal scorer and I think already in top 10 premiership goal scorers (if not he would be within a season or two). My point on Perisic was that Inter werent willing to negotiate a deal with Utd so why should Utd act any differently in negotiations? It was noted that perisic also wanted the move so identical situations. If both stay they will both have big impacts in our side next season. If utd just did as we were told by opposition fans we would have paid 75 million for Wan Bissaka and sold Lukaku for 50 million. Lukaku will most likely go for around 70 and we got Wan Bissaka for 45 million.

Im still confused as to your argument about City? Seems a pretty pointless line. Also you contradict yourself there with Felix point. We arent allowed to charge money for Pogba and Lukaku cause they had off seasons (Pogba didnt) but Felix after 6 months going for 120 mill is ok because we dont know his clauses - except there were no clauses and Atletico just activated his buyout clause}

29.) 21 Jul 2019 16:30:39
Oh snap Ed004


That's that then.

30.) 21 Jul 2019 17:07:47
Right so Palace had to give into UTD for wanting more for Bissaka than what they got for him?

Do you realise that Madrid and Inter are not Crystal Palace?

Pot kettle black.

31.) 22 Jul 2019 06:02:33
maxlfc, your arguments seem silly.
Lukaku scored 27 goals in his first season.
Only the last year cannot be used as a barometer to judge a player's price.
He just turned 26 and is entering his peak years.
In the right system, he will easily score 30 plus goals.
Therefore the club has every right on the valuation they put on Rom considering the current inflated market.

If we budge on our valuation, it will set a bad predicament for future sales.

32.) 22 Jul 2019 09:18:27
It makes sense to be flexible on our valuation, and be willing to bend a little for a reasonable offer. £54m on a player valued at £75m does not qualify.

If they came in offering, let's say £68m, I'm sure the club would be perfectly willing to talk, and I'm sure a deal could be done from that point without either side having to move too far.

However, £54m isn't even close, and we don't NEED to sell him right now.

33.) 22 Jul 2019 18:29:25
You lot make me laugh.

We do not want to sell Lukaku when he does not even fit into your playing style under Ole.

Pogba is earning massive wages too so if UTD are planning on getting rid which I am sure they are otherwise Madrid would not be hounding UTD then it will either be stick or twist.

If any of you think Lukaka is worth more than what UTD paid for him, include his wages Inter would need to pay then really, you will be stuck with a player which Ole will have on the subs bench.

UTD as ED002 has explained are throwing money around and not actually fixing the problem.

If Lukaku and Pogba stay then you will have two players on hand holding all the cards.

Beggars belief.

{Ed004's Note - I never got the chance to reply at the weekend but your arguments make no sense. Youve definitely come on here to get a rise from people which is a shame because we had examples of posters from other clubs coming on and enhancing debates and improving the site for it to be quickly reversed}

34.) 22 Jul 2019 19:44:48
And just remember, just because Conte wants Lukaku does not mean Inter will sign him at an inflated fee. Conte does not have control of transfers at Inter and they can go sing another one of their targest for a lesser fee and lesser wages.

The worl does not revilve around UTD, espicially how they have been more than mediocre in the the transfer windows of late and still continue to be lol.




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26 Aug 2019 07:30:59
Yet again, we are starting to judge players and the manager on game to game basis.

It will take time to develop understanding between the players and the position they play.
There are changes almost in all the areas of the pitch when compared to last season.
Martial is playing for the first time as a centre forward, Mctominay as first choice DM, Pogba moved to right side of midfield, fresh centre back pairing, new Right full back and a winger.
It is obvious they need to play more games together to develop and evolve as a team.


1.) 26 Aug 2019 09:28:29
Well said, but the preseason was to address this to an extent.

2.) 26 Aug 2019 09:24:51
One player you didn't mention is lingard who is not being judged on a game by game basis, for this whole calendar year he has been severely unproductive. He has to be dropped even at this early stage of the season. Mata, greenwood or gomes should come in for southampton

There is too much pressure on rashford and martial to shoulder the goalscoring burden at the moment. We need a third and fourth option to divert defences attention especially when they defend in a low block which inevitably created the space to create chances and score goals.

City have 5 quality options on the pitch at any one time, liverpool have three quality options and spurs have 4 on the pitch at any one time. Even arsenal once pepe, lacazette and aubameyang play together will have three quality options on the pitch to overload defences.

3.) 26 Aug 2019 10:16:39
The planning and execution of transfers as well as sorting out the situations of Lukaku/ Pog/ Sanchez were poorly dealt with.

We signed Maguire in the last week of the window.
Sold our top scorer again in the last week and didn't replace him. The board left it too late to resolve all these issues and left the squad in limbo without a creative midfielder and a RW which we were all craving for.

4.) 26 Aug 2019 10:39:33
Agree DSG.
Just imagine Bruno or Maddison at no 10 and someone like Sancho on RW. The team would have been prefect.

5.) 26 Aug 2019 12:59:00
Perfect? Come on trd. Perfect😂😂😂😂.

6.) 26 Aug 2019 13:41:51
Those 2 players would have addressed the most glaring deficiencies in the squad Ken :)

7.) 26 Aug 2019 15:51:07
Because every player we sign does really well and never has a bad game.

8.) 26 Aug 2019 15:55:18
Like fred and Sanchez did?



21 Aug 2019 09:28:43
Does anyone else think Crystal Palace will receive a bashing this week?

It will be the perfect game to start Greeenwood on the right side of attack.
James should come on as an impact sub and slot in on either wing.
We must be patient with him considering the last game was his first ever EPL start.


1.) 21 Aug 2019 16:30:52
Lingard is just another example of a pretty average English player bein talked up way above his station by pundits simply because he's English .

See also Welbeck . I remember Scholes saying that LVG should'nt have sold him, somebody pointed out Welbeck's scoring record and Scholes said ' everybody knows Danny's not a goalscorer', but still thought he should be playing in the front three for one of the biggest clubs in Europe .

2.) 22 Aug 2019 07:44:03
bilko do you find yourself embarrassed or frustrated to find you posted in the wrong topic and should have posted the comment to the previous conversation? >.



12 Aug 2019 11:19:38
Is there a link to AJH's prediction competition?
I think I missed to enter.


1.) 12 Aug 2019 11:43:43
What competition? We get to predict each match?

2.) 12 Aug 2019 13:32:23
Trd ajh didn't do it this season.

3.) 12 Aug 2019 18:52:11
oh. was really looking forward to it.
Darn T Tony.



08 Aug 2019 06:39:42
Adding to Brendan's post down the page.
Last year we had a manager sacked, players thrown under the bus frequently, toxic atmosphere and many other off field issues. Still we managed to come close to top 4.

This year we have 2 signings going straight into the starting 11. Greenwood, McTominay and others look like stepping up and the manager is ready to give them the opportunity.

Rebuilding is a steady process. We cannot expect everything to be fixed in a single window.
Defence is sorted, the midfield may be fixed in later windows to get the right targets in.

I am really excited for the new season. The positivity is also a great sign.
Manchester United have always been believers of young talents.
Let us back them instead of complaining about new signings.


1.) 08 Aug 2019 06:56:48
The naivety on here is a sight to see.

If Lukaku goes and no one comes in our net spend will be circa £70m, funnily enough I read the average annual net spend since 2009 was £69m, a coincidence or just what the owners want to budget for transfers.

Our midfield is just not good enough and if we don’t get a goal scorer I fear a difficult season. The defence is much improved but I don’t fancy our present midfield to dominate against any of the other top six, possibly top ten teams. If Pogba goes as well it would be lovely financially but the midfield looks terrible.

The window hasn’t closed yet but I for one won’t be bounced into rah rah land where everything is wonderful

People miss the situation that if we miss top four the top players next summer will not believe we can get back so won’t come, Miss the top six and our options reduce further. The emotional sentimental nonsense that drives some people would still probably harp on about our DNA.

2.) 08 Aug 2019 07:32:03
Couldn’t agree more Redman. Some people still can’t see just how far we’ve fallen. We will get dominated in that CM area frequently. Battle for 5th or 6th I believe. Simply not good enough.

3.) 08 Aug 2019 08:08:47
Careful Red Man and Stand, you're speaking realistically and that's not allowed. Apparently Fred, Mctominay, pogba, Sanchez, Pereira, Matic are going to be top class and create chance after chance for our front two.
I like Mctominay as he plays with passion. But Pogba wants out and the rest are not good enough. So the engine of the team, our midfield, is so poor that teams like Leicester boast a better midfield.
I wanted us to sign Fernandes and Maddison to enhance the chances we create. That's not happened.
We will not challenge, nor qualify for 4th spot with this midfield, they simply don't create enough chances.

4.) 08 Aug 2019 08:15:18
Think you’re right: it’s more about rebuilding for the long term this transfer window, rather than shoe-horning in big signings for an immediate impact as before.

Top 4 will be the target this year then, when we’ve qualified for Ch. League, we can bring in other signings to enhance the foundations such as Declan Rice and Longstaff, again building for the long term.

In the meantime, squad can be trimmed of those players who don’t want/ shouldn’t be at United.

I still think we lack creativity in midfield but, so long as Pogba shows up more often than not, we should had a decent season. Can see youngsters getting their chance also. Bring on Sunday!

5.) 08 Aug 2019 08:17:12
Arsenal and spurs are having a pretty good attempt at fixing everything in this window while we’re sitting back.
Worth noting that we need to close the gap and it seems these two are doing their best to increase the gap between us and them.
Let’s see where we’re at when the window closes.



05 Aug 2019 08:10:19
Hello Ed002,
Is it possible to give a brief update where United currently stand in terms of ins and outs with 3 days remaining for the English transfer window.
Have any wildcard options popped up?

And Is it still practically feasible to recruit RW, CM as well as sorting out the futures of Lukaku, Pogba, Sancheza and Darmian with adequate replacements.


{Ed002's Note - I have been doing that repeatedly.}




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13 Aug 2019 06:04:12
Pogba hit the post 7 times in his first season.




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07 Aug 2019 18:29:13
75 million for Lukaku is a great deal.




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06 Aug 2019 11:58:08
dev1i. lol Seriously?
sounds total bs.




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05 Aug 2019 08:11:33
Hazard, Vinicius Jr, Varane, Casemiro :)




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05 Aug 2019 05:43:27
Lesson learnt from Sanchez and Di Maria fiasco.





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14 Sep 2019 18:48:12
Back 5 were solid.
Mctominay was full of energy and won numerous battles in midfield.

But we lack imagination going forward.
I still worry where the goals are going to come from.




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13 Sep 2019 18:35:54
lol. Redman will agree.




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13 Sep 2019 12:34:39
AWB is doubtful as well.




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13 Sep 2019 10:47:29
Yes. It's a great feature.




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06 Sep 2019 09:10:38
lol Mort :)