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07 Jan 2019 14:47:27
Heres a question - Do the players (established/ "world class") sign by the name of the club or do they sign based on the manager? For instance, a certain Zlatan wouldn't have come to United if it weren't for Jose Mourinho, neither would Matic (just a couple of examples, surely there would be more for SAF) . Also, in the past few seasons, we have been rejected by a fair few "man utd fans" who have gone on to sign for the rivals even though we offer the money. So what is it, the Manchester United name or is it the manager for who the players sign?

The reason I ask this question is suppose Ole gets the job permanently in the summer, so would the players be eager to join a reasonably unrecognizable face in managerial terms as opposed to let's say more established ones like Poch or Blanc? If it's the latter, then shouldn't the club keep that in mind when deciding the managerial future of the club?

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1.) 07 Jan 2019 15:09:41
Why wouldn't Zlatan or Matic sign for utd without mourinho, they weren't some unattainable world class players, one is playing in MLS which is where he would have ended up had we not signed him and other is someone who was getting outclassed by fabregas of all people at chelsea.

We signed paul pogba a bigger star than either and mourinho had little to do with him signing for us rather than madrid.


2.) 07 Jan 2019 16:25:41
CSM, buddy would you mind answering the question if you have an opinion rather than arguing on the examples. Its all in the past so we cannot really prove if zlatan and matic signed for the club or Mourinho. But if they did, why didn't they do so earlier when Zlatan was young and Matic was mobile. Anyway, the examples are what they are, please focus on the point raised. Would players want to play for Ole or Poch/ Blanc?


3.) 07 Jan 2019 18:00:08
Some people like living in the country other like living in the city, some want apartments other cottages.

Individual choice is what your asking. I don't think any player ever chooses to sign for a club based on just one particular aspect.

If Matic signed for Mourinho would be have signed for Brentford if Jose had been manager there? Probably not.

For some players they want to play for a certain manager, others want to play with certain players, some want to play in the EPL others in La Liga. Some take history and prestige of a club into account others don't. Ultimately everyone moves if the money is right.

There could be 1000 reasons why a player chooses to move to our club or chooses not to.

Ultimately if they don't want to move here then it's best they don't sign. We need players who want to be here and will fight to be here.

If they would rather be in London, or Spain then good luck to them. But they aren't the right player for us.


4.) 07 Jan 2019 22:14:55
Players play for money and opportunities (to earn more money) . Man Utd is one of the biggest clubs and platforms showcase a player's ability.

I do agree that managers can influence and OGS or Poch would certainly appeal to players a lot more than Mou.


5.) 08 Jan 2019 06:03:01
UA we never targetted matic and zlatan before, when Ronaldo signed for us in 2003 he did not reject Real Madrid and Barcelona they were never trying to sign him then.

Matic was an average joe who had 1 good season at Chelsea he has done nothing beyond that, zlatan was never needed. When zlatan signed for Juventus we had Rooney and Ronaldo, his next big move to Barcelona we had rooney and berbatov, his last big move to PSG we had Rooney and just signed RVP.

About players playing for certain managers, if we pay big money and are looking to win trophies players will come. Pochettino and Blanc aren't some big name superstar managers, one has never won anything the other hasn't got a job for 3 years now.


6.) 08 Jan 2019 06:26:06
Fair enough that Shappy and CSM. Thanks! For me personally, it would be a package really, the club and the manager.


 

 

22 Dec 2018 16:17:48
What is happening over on the blue side? Did Jose take over from Pep?

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1.) 23 Dec 2018 00:00:56
Fear.


 

 

18 Dec 2018 10:47:31
So Pogba will now win the Balod d Or this season. Lukaku will win the golden boot and we will be champions of England and Europe now that Mr. Jose has left us.

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1.) 18 Dec 2018 11:40:23
Were we on the way to winning those had he stayed?


2.) 18 Dec 2018 11:52:38
Doesnt matter CSM. Having been on the page long enough to understand what people think. Just putting it out there. I am sure there are several who will sleep with smiles on their faces today.

{Ed002's Note - That is just wind.}


3.) 18 Dec 2018 12:23:15
The players need to take a hard look at themselves UA but mourinho does not get a pass from me, the players who in the end were his downfall were players he paid big money for. He did not inherit pogba, matic, lukaku. He bought them if he can't get them performing its as much on him as it is on them.


 

 

09 Dec 2018 17:45:38
Shappy. Shappy. Shappy. Shapppy. anyone seen Shappy after the weekend's game?

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1.) 09 Dec 2018 18:00:21
Wow. One win against the bottom team, and we're calling out other posters for their honestly held opinions. Is this how far we've dropped? I see the old, 'judging managers/ players on a game by game basis' syndrome has reared it's ugly head again.


2.) 09 Dec 2018 18:10:58
Yes Stevie, we are falling low cz we like to call it fair and square on how we see it. When we are poor and losing we call it as bad as it is. But there are a few who just have an agenda against you know who and they push it on the others. Shappy used to be a really objective poster but these days he only sees the poor in you know who. Remember Maze and how he used to disappear from the page after a win and would grace the page after a poor performance.


3.) 09 Dec 2018 18:40:27
United Addict, just a quick question who do we credit the win against Fulham to? Jose or the players?

For every one person like me who puts most of the blame on the manager there is at least two more who puts most of the blame on the players or the board or the owners or pretty much anyone but the manager.

So as one of those who blames everyone but Jose, why did we win on Saturday. Did the board do a better job this week, or the players? And why?


4.) 09 Dec 2018 19:27:19
As a side note, I am really happy with the result, and pretty happy with the performance. There was some great individual performances from Herrera, Mata, Rashford and Dalot, and it was a promising performance.

As for doom and gloom, what does this mean for Pogba? And we need to consider that it was against the worst side in the league so far this season.


5.) 09 Dec 2018 19:53:16
Where's your agenda against Rashford after saturday's match, United Addict?


6.) 10 Dec 2018 00:43:27
I was delighted to see us win but please let's put it in the right context. It was against the club bottom of our league who lots of concede goals almost every game. Of we can score and perform to the same hight level against our next ten opponents then maybe we can start to have true confidence that we have turned the corner. Until then let's hold our horses and wait and see how we do.


7.) 10 Dec 2018 01:35:05
I agree tbh - yes the performance was a million times better than the last few weeks/ months, however like people have said, it was against the bottom club.
Let’s see if we are having this same convo on Sunday night after we’ve played the team currently at the top of the table.


 

 

08 Dec 2018 19:10:43
A good day in Manchester. Whilst i am happy for a City loss, i am devastated at who is top of the table today.

PS- it may still change as there are still 10 min to go at Stamford Bridge.

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08 Jan 2019 11:07:46
Not that we are in for him, but if we go in for Coutinho, won't that be because Eds have repeatedly told us that both Pogba and Martial are likely to move on?

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20 Dec 2018 15:26:20
Certainly a lot of issues Ed, not just with the manager. It stems from incompetent decision makers. Thanks for all your inputs.

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20 Dec 2018 11:14:29
So Jose was right in not wanting Smalling to get a new contract, not wanting Costa and also wanting Pjanic. Hmmmm.

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{Ed002's Note - But the club never let him join their gang. It was a ba d move to appoint Mr Mourinho and a bad move for him to accept. He never sawMU as a progressive club that will adapt to what he thinks they need. He didn't like being in Manchester and there are those there who saw a blue tinge surrounding him. There was a major error in taking on Ibrahimovich - it is disruptive with the kids (although one specific issue has been overcome) and he wanted to move elsewhere. Mkhitaryan was a disaster waiting to happen. Pogba's career belongs in Spain or Italy - certainly not Manchester.


 

 

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19 Dec 2018 16:10:17
New on the page Thorne?

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19 Dec 2018 14:44:14
Really? No more i don't see his CV? No credentials? didn't want him in the first place?

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10 Jan 2019 17:01:53
Absolutely Shappy, thanks! Its best i stay away. You guys enjoy.

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10 Jan 2019 15:23:43
No worries, GDS and Park. I really don't care what you think, mates. Where were you policing when this site was toxic and only thing you had on this page was negativity with someone called Mourinho? If you guys think of me as a troll so be it. I will stay away from posting anymore.

Goodbye lads and Eds. Have a wonderful year.

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10 Jan 2019 03:40:28
And apparently all you guys are opposed to a takeover from the middle-east. ahh the double standards.

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08 Jan 2019 06:26:06
Fair enough that Shappy and CSM. Thanks! For me personally, it would be a package really, the club and the manager.

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07 Jan 2019 16:25:41
CSM, buddy would you mind answering the question if you have an opinion rather than arguing on the examples. Its all in the past so we cannot really prove if zlatan and matic signed for the club or Mourinho. But if they did, why didn't they do so earlier when Zlatan was young and Matic was mobile. Anyway, the examples are what they are, please focus on the point raised. Would players want to play for Ole or Poch/ Blanc?

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