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30 Jan 2024 15:31:41
Hi Ed002, who is filling our recruitment and DOF roles then? Mitchell, Ashworth, Freedman, Berta all mentioned, have you heard anything different since your last updates on the matter? Thanks as always.

Welsh Red Devil

{Ed002's Note - Dave Brailsford is taking advice over options. Although nothing is finalised, Paul Mitchell will likely head elsewhere.}


1.) 30 Jan 2024 22:22:47
Roma for Mitchell Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


2.) 31 Jan 2024 08:01:38
Thanks for info Ed002. Bit of a surprise there with Mitchell -thought he was the preferred choice?

Were United taking too long to decide and he got fed up with waiting or is Roma simply a better offer?

Thanks as always for any reply!

{Ed002's Note - Paul Mitchell was the first choioce of Jim Ratcliffe - but the Roma job is a very attractive one.}


3.) 31 Jan 2024 08:33:23
Thanks for quick reply Ed002!


4.) 31 Jan 2024 10:08:35
Ed, I know it's all pure speculation at the moment but I've seen Julian Ward's name mentioned for the roll and noticed Michael Edwards has turned down a chance to rejoin Liverpool. Do you think or know if either of those are genuine candidates to come to United?

{Ed002's Note - There has been no interest in Ward as far as I know and Edwards has a new venture and Liverpool only wanted him for another role - not Director of Football.}


5.) 31 Jan 2024 10:14:12
Thank you.


6.) 31 Jan 2024 12:01:09
Paul Mitchell has always been the fans favourite for a long while and potential link to Ratcliffe increased the chances. I wonder whether there is change of tact with the appointment of Berrada (or maybe it was never real) .
If that appointment is anything to go by we may find out a day or so before the appointment and it may be not the obvious candidate but one that fits with the future model.

{Ed002's Note - You are making stuff up.}


7.) 31 Jan 2024 16:53:56
I doubt our new DOF will be Mitchell or Ward, and some indications from the likes of Athletic seem to have played down Ashworth recently.
More and more looking like maybe an unexpected name, probably INEOS will be ready to make recommendation/ hire once ratification is complete.


8.) 01 Feb 2024 20:53:45
Can someone enlighten me as to why Roma is such an attractive proposition? They aren’t exactly a European super power, unless they have outside investment now……….?

{Ed002's Note - He will have a free hand to do what he wants.}


 

 

20 Jan 2024 18:20:20
Omar Berrada is the new CEO, resigned as City's Chief footballing operations officer apparently.

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21 Jul 2023 22:50:30
Are PSG going to vye with us for Hoijlund signature Ed do you know now Mbappe seemingly off or do you expect us to wrap that one up?

Welsh Red Devil

{Ed002's Note - Rasmus Hojlund (S) A primary target for Milan. Napoli will look to him if they lose Osihem, Inter if they lose Lukaku and Juventus if they lose Vlahovic. Newcastle, Brighton and Arsenal have sent scouts and might be an option for Manchester United. A wildcard option might be Bayern Munich or Chelsea but not top of the list for either - and way down the list for Chelsea. Real Madrid have spoken with Atalanta to propose a solution that would see a one year loan back. Atalanta will not look to sell unless the player asks for a move and they can raise €60M. Manchester United and PSG will look for solutions..


1.) 22 Jul 2023 07:36:42
We seem to be avoiding bidding wars at the moment, cannot see us going toe to toe with PSG if they start throwing money at Atalanta.


2.) 22 Jul 2023 09:00:49
I think Hojlund will be a United player by the end of next weekend. Whilst there have been loads of players linked so far, the really ‘loud’ rumours this year have been Mount, Onana, Hojlund so I expect the third to follow the former two into Old Trafford.


3.) 22 Jul 2023 11:44:48
Dunno about that Downsie. He's worth probably half what they're asking, paying for potential is one thing but he's not had a prolific season to back it up. I reckon we'll aim for similar to the last two sigings, £50-60m?


4.) 22 Jul 2023 12:44:21
I think that’s the sort of figure we’ll pay, Spenno.

But can see us having to part with either Amad or Pellistri on loan on top of that to seal the deal.


5.) 23 Jul 2023 12:17:33
Always a good sign if Madrid are looking at him.


6.) 23 Jul 2023 20:49:24
Not always a good sign angelred, especially if they decide to get that state sponsored cheque book out.


 

 

29 Jun 2023 16:30:55
Pau Torres to Villa 45m in the offing.

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1.) 29 Jun 2023 17:32:51
They are getting a really good defender. Emery building a good team. Won't be many easy matches this year.


2.) 29 Jun 2023 18:44:56
Torres and Maguire finally united?


3.) 30 Jun 2023 02:14:59
Hope so utd, that would help us to move forward.


 

 

22 Jun 2023 12:00:49
Hi Ed002, with Spurs signing Vicario does this mean we will look to him Raya now?

Welsh Red Devil

{Ed002's Note - Raya is on a list of GKs Manchester United are interested in.}


1.) 22 Jun 2023 15:18:16
Onana to United is a good bet.


2.) 22 Jun 2023 16:07:53
Hope so TRD. Feel like he'd be a tremendous signing.


3.) 22 Jun 2023 16:33:40
if we sign Onana or Costa i'd be very happy, both look just what we need.


 

 

 

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01 Feb 2024 23:33:57
Take a bow Kobee Mainoo, the lad has some nerve doesn't he. Hojlund seems to be growing game by game, if only we knew how to see out games.

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1.) 02 Feb 2024 18:44:48
Hopefully, the world don’t start saying he is the next best thing and heap pressure on him, as U. K. always manages to do…. but the opposite side of the coin…

HOW CRAP is Onana……. Flaps at everything, shocking positioning lead feet, strange hands…. I don’t even think he is that good at kicking more then not it goes sailing out.

I would honestly say he is one of the worst I seen at United in some time….


 

 

26 Jan 2024 10:48:45
Klopp leaving I see.

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1.) 26 Jan 2024 10:57:12
Says he’s running out of energy - hope his health is OK.


2.) 26 Jan 2024 11:03:00
Maybe Omar has tapped him up ?.


3.) 26 Jan 2024 11:05:07
Sad that that is the best news I’ve had in years

City relegated and Pep gone and it’s happy days.


4.) 26 Jan 2024 11:23:21
I suspect Liverpool will have a better plan than we did when SAF retired. Not in the same bracket but it will be a major change for them. May I recommend David Moyes for them but suspect they know what they are doing, probably the Brighton manager at a guess.

I hoped Klopp would come to us a long time ago and said so on here but our useless lot missed that opportunity. I hope there are no health issues, good passionate manager. Let’s see how it affects them, they tend to be quite emotional lot, like us, so expect a lot of noise.

If City are found Guilty they should be in the Northern Premier or whatever it is now. I wonder if Pep would fancy a stint with us.


5.) 26 Jan 2024 11:26:59
I thought Martial leaving in the summer would be the best news this year.


6.) 26 Jan 2024 11:54:56
Be Xabi won’t it.


7.) 26 Jan 2024 12:01:28
I actually feel a little sorry for the bin dippers. He may not have been at the club for anywhere near as long, but Klopp leaving them now is probably just as painful for them as SAF retiring in 2013 was for us.

Here’s hoping that their collapse is every bit as emphatic as ours was, though I have a feeling that they’ll probably end up bringing somebody in who is able to build off of Klopp’s success and the the strong foundations that he’s laid. There are still a lot of good players in the current Liverpool squad, many of whom still have plenty of good years ahead of them.


8.) 26 Jan 2024 12:17:00
Alonso in I would think.


9.) 26 Jan 2024 12:17:48
Klopp looked like he would step away previously and there were rumours it could have been at the end of the season. He feels a bit like Pep in that they go full on at the club and unfotunately that means it has a shelf life for him and he eventually needs to step away to regenerate and then go again.
I would expect him to take a year out and then see what opportunities there are.
Liverpool will definitely have a plan, if Ancheloti is staying at Real Madrid then I expect Alonso to be the person they bring in for Klopp (I thought he would take over at Madrid) .
It seems like the logical move, young up and coming and if Leverkusen win the Bundesliga he will come in with success (it is Klopp 2.0).
If it is not Alonso then they will be looking in the same pool of managers as we will so will be interesting to see the next moves.


10.) 26 Jan 2024 12:52:47
100% will be Alonso in for next season.


11.) 26 Jan 2024 13:53:48
Collapse? They have won 1 league title in 10 years under klopp. 1 hit wonder just like raniere manchini and pelligrini. ???
Decent cup manager but not a great epl manager. 2nd a few times even ole came 2nd. Good bye and good riddance.
In seriousness a really good character and got Liverpool competing again. I hope he takes up a good post somewhere soon he is a fans manager and has been a man of the people in Liverpool. Let's hope their next manager doesn't actually win leagues consistently.


12.) 26 Jan 2024 14:46:46
Could be a season or 2 too early for Alonso but he certainly would be the obvious choice you’d think.


13.) 26 Jan 2024 14:57:40
Decent cup manager Ken? He’s only won one of each of them as well, 4 major trophies (6 if you include club World Cup etc) in 8 years, he’s done very well and they play great football but unfortunately he came up against an amazing city side which will stop him from going down as one of the greats.


14.) 26 Jan 2024 15:47:47
Fantastic manager, wish we had got him, will be very hard to replace.


15.) 26 Jan 2024 15:57:28
Yes gds2 a decent cup manager but facts are 1 epl title.
Wenger went up against best of his era and won 3. Klopp didn't name to get over the line against best of his era more than once.
Top guy and a great manager imo but he should have won at least 1 more league title and that will be the blot on his copy book a bit like fergie with only 2 cl titles he perhaps should have had a couple more.
He brought Liverpool from nowhere to serial contenders and that a great feat and has woken a sleeping giant but not quite made them serial winners.


16.) 26 Jan 2024 19:04:41
redseven:- Never be sorry for the dippers!


17.) 27 Jan 2024 02:40:07
Kloppps been great and had it not been for City spending the way they did he wouldve won more. Top guy top manager and wouldve loved to have him here.

Much better then Guardiola!


18.) 27 Jan 2024 07:54:42
Well, Tumble, he will win it this season, so that makes two :)


 

 

10 Jan 2024 20:54:29
Would like to do a poll, who would you rather on the RW for MU;

Antony
Or
Dan James.

Welsh Red Devil

{Ed033's Note -


RW poll


1.) 11 Jan 2024 06:28:38
Needs a third option of neither.


2.) 11 Jan 2024 10:04:15
As bad as Antony is he scored more goals last season alone than Dan James did in his time here.

Difference is James cost what £12 million?

Terrible players ?.


3.) 11 Jan 2024 20:40:40
option 3 - sid james (one for the kids there)


4.) 12 Jan 2024 08:52:21
Dan James created chaos tho, the new buzz word for failing strikers like Darwin, think of rather the pace and directness of James than Antony who provides literally nothing.


5.) 12 Jan 2024 11:54:48
Created chaos where? He was and always will be a bad footballer.


 

 

31 Dec 2023 12:36:50
I've not posted in a while as wanted to see how this team would stand up and be counted and to see what ETH sees in his analysis and quite frankly I see neither.
The team, no matter what team is selected (bar Mainoo and Nacho) appear to be lacking in cohesion, effort, consistency and whatever about ownership and a poor footballing department the last 10 years, the performances, lack of identity, in game management and substitutes fall on the manager and his staff.
I do believe we have players not good enough, some even who have simply downed tools and yes we have injuries but look at Ange at Spurs, RDZ at Brighton, they also have injuries but whether there are injuries or not you see a style of play with those teams and managers regardless, I see nothing with this United team.
I'm hopeful that SJR and his appointments of Brailsford, Blanc and Mitchell will at least see a competent running of the department and I know the profile they want in a manager and playing staff will take some time but there is no excuse for the performances we are seeing and the ridiculous analysis of the subs and overview of the game ETH is making/ saying, it reeks of a man desperately trying anything.
I don't expect us to win any match we go into and I genuinely feel sorry for Hoijlund getting zero service from Antony and Bruno, relying on a kid in Nacho to be the main man, on Mainoo to knit out midfield, bar these 3 and Licha I could care less if I see any of the rest in a United shirt again.
As much as it bores me to watch United play, I'll be watching each week cz that's what fans do and I'll be hopeful ten hag can turn it around but there's being supportive and then there's being deluded and we have very average footballers in that squad and the ones of higher quality are suffering because of it or what's worse in the case of Rash they are hiding or not trying.
Anyway, onto 2024 and as Ralf Rangnick said maybe it doesn't take so long to see improvements but we do need to be ruthless and competent under this new regime and unfortunately I feel that starts with a new manager.
Happy New Year all posters and Eds x.

Welsh Red Devil

1.) 31 Dec 2023 13:27:13
Good post Welsh. I think last night was the end of ten hag. Its so bad its criminal. but to take off our only holding midfielder is insanity which led to the defeat. That's on him and its happening over and over again. basically ten hag is an awful manager. With 8 days to the next game the club needs something different, a spark and that's a new manager. No way whoever is running the football side can let this carry on.


2.) 31 Dec 2023 14:38:12
Utd obviously wanted a bit of what Ajax were showing in recent years. Attractive and positive, not quite the Total Football of the 70s perhaps but touch and move at the least, creative, always having an option. Maybe there was a belief that many (myself included) were left imagining what the same manager could do with better players. Maybe it was a bit of an insult to suggest we had better players. I certainly don't think the side he left would have done nearly as well in the Prem where there literally isn't a second to breath, and the defending is supposedly the best in the world.
Jump forward a few years and the manager has already said he can't play like that with these players (I think he felt he could at one point but has underestimated the league and overestimated what he inherited) so has pushed them instead down the counter-attacking route that suits Fernandes, Rashford et al, our best players at the time he came in yet who supposedly aren't intelligent enough to play a different way. How hard is it?
Worryingly, EtH has signed a fair few of these players, so by this logic Antony, a player he developed - one our own staff valued at £20-30m - should be like Cruyff on one wing and Mount, who I've yet to even see in a Utd shirt, should be orchestrating things in the middle like Johan Neeskens, playing in exactly the way the manager wants. Instead our third most expensive ever signing looks like he belongs in a pub team.
I really want things to work out for Erik and genuinely feel for him as he's had no control over so much that has gone wrong. There seems to be a tale around practically everyone in the squad from the goalkeeper to the failure to sign an experienced centre-forward, Greenwood, Sancho, the midfield debacle, the awful fullback scenario, re-signing a centre-back nearing the end of his career (ironically now a first-teamer) . Whatever could go wrong, has, and more. Investing in a few areas that weren't as crucial as others, which has backfired massively.
I am genuinely interested to see how this side develops in the next few weeks as all these players return - there has to be a definite style and improvement very soon, if we've not already passed that point.


3.) 31 Dec 2023 15:12:01
East end

I get the venting that comes with a loss. Do you think we played better in the second half or first half offensively. Its easy to vent and blame taking Mainoo off on the loss. we were rubbish first half and awb deflected shot is all we could muster. You guys make it sound we took off Zidane. lol

Garnacho was poor all game so were a lot of guys like ericksen, Bruno, but blame the subbing of main of maninoo.

Played golf today with yorkie and he thinks 7 of these players who started would not even make the fergie squad. Asked him about every player and weird he said Garnacho is decent and so is hoiland but nothing special. Still thinks rash is our best player in our squad but thinks a lot of these players are not united quality and also thinks the manager is average.

from starting line up he thought rash, garnacho, bruno, dalot would be good enough for his time at united to make the squad.

only positive I took from yesterday is Amad. the rest collectively were so poor.


4.) 31 Dec 2023 15:27:24
If yorke rates Dalot he’s clearly stupid
Just because he’s played doesn’t make his opinion any more valid than ours!
To me rashford is not our best player because best players turn up every game and deliver. He is a disgrace to the shirt 90 per cent of the time, an awful example to young football players of desire, commitment and application.
While Dalot has all of them in abundance to be fair he’s just extremely limited in every way .


5.) 31 Dec 2023 15:39:56
chris

I take his opinion who has played and with more credibility than guys like myself or others here serious. He is adamant rash is the best player we have no questions and think people are clueless if they don't get it.

He maybe clueless or maybe we are. he does think most fans are clueless in terms of what is going on inside a squad lol

thinks eth should have sent guys like maguire, mc, martail, DVB, and many others to the reserves to force a move:)


6.) 31 Dec 2023 17:07:52
Yorke is stupid he sha99ed jordan without strapping up didn’t he.


7.) 31 Dec 2023 19:38:55
Welsh, if we look at Ange at Spurs and we see a team that has had a massive drop off in form during a period of time where they have had 4 or 5 first team players injured.

We've had 5-6 minimum injured for every single games for the entire season.

I think that just backs up the point about how much the injuries are impacting us.

While Brighton are one of the best run clubs in the league, they have for many years now worked with a single vision. They have recruited players to play a specific style of play, and they have hired managers to suit that style. They didn't sign players to suit Potter they hired Potter because he suited the vision.

When he left RDZ was not high on anyone's list, none of he bookies had him as a serious candidate, they were looking at the usual names.

Yet Brighton had been keeping tabs on several managers whose style of play suited their vision and the squad they created. RDZ was high on that list and was a manager they were able to sign.

As such they went against the tide with who the media or fans wanted and instead hired the right man for the plan and the squad they had created.

As such he was able to be very successful.

RDZ is clearly a good manager, but he's probably not as amazing as he seems at Brighton simply because he is at a club that is seemingly perfectly set up for him.

This is why Potter despite being a very good manager failed miserably at Chelsea. At Brighton he was at a well run club, that was set up to be almost ideal for him. As such he flourished. Chelsea were at the opposite end of the spectrum at the time and we're in disarray with many of the key personnel leaving and new people starting in key roles. As such Potter couldn't be that man who pulled them through it. Even Pochettino is struggling now despite things being calmer behind the scenes at Chelsea now.

United currently is probably in a worse state behind the scenes than Chelsea have been in. Not only have we had 10 years of utterly awful and nigh on useless people making key decisions and running the club, we now still have the same people, but with a year of them dillydallying over any decisions due to the potential sale and uncertainty.

EtH in my opinion has handled that better than most would be able to. He's steered us through some very turbulent waters and done a decent job.

Unfortunately this season any chance of even a the smallest level of consistency has been totally kiboshed by the frankly ridiculous injuries we have been plagued with.

The key players who he started to build a side around have been out injured or seem their form nose dive due to the instability caused by the injuries in defence and midfield.

Even many of his summer signings, brought in to build on last season have had their own injury issues which has impacted their ability to settle.

Højlund and Amrabat joined injured and couldn't play for weeks, Mount, Evans and Reguilon (signed to cover for both Shaw and Malacia being injured) have had their own injuries. Only Onana of the summer signings has avoided injury so far. Although we will now lose him to the AFCON for at least a month maybe longer.

People wonder why we aren't playing like prime Barcelona or peak Ajax while ignoring that we had a back four of AWB, Maguire, Lindelof and Dalot playing LB despite being a RB. Then in front of them we had McTominay and a steady rotation of Mainoo, Amrabat and Eriksen depending on who was actually fit at that time.
People complain that EtH has his favourites and won't drop a player like Antony, but refuse to say who they would play instead of the Brazilian. Greenwood was supposed to be back in the squad, only to be shipped out on loan far too late to have any chance to bring in a replacement, all because those above EtH got cold feet when the press wrote some unkind things about their decision. Sancho has imploded. EtH has bent over backwards to try and help the kid, called in favours and even allowed him time off last season to go get his head straight and improve his fitness. Only to see his support thrown back in his face by an ungrateful, spoiled brat. Who has then shown his petulance by refusing to apologise for his actions. Sancho himself has ruled himself out of contention.
That really leaves Amad, who himself was injured and unavailable all season until yesterday.

Other than that it's play Garnacho or Rashford out of position. Ones a kid with less than half a season under his belt at the start of this season, the other is a player whose in terrible form, partially caused by being forced to move about and play out of position to cover for injuries.

Neither seem like great candidates to play out of position. While we could only do that if we had enough other players fit to do so. When Rashford has to play CF like yesterday due to Højlund and Martial being unavailable then we really don't have anyone else to play RW.

Like I said yesterday we are not just top of the injuries league table, but we have had 22% MORE injuries than the second placed side. We've had nearly 88% more injuries than SEVEN other EPL sides. We've had more than DOUBLE the number of injuries for 16 of the other 19 EPL sides.

To suggest all sides have injuries and we should just cope with them like the other sides is akin to saying that all people have some physical issues so the Paralympians should just compete with the physically able Olympians.

People really aren't being fair to the manager or the players when they dismiss the injuries.


8.) 31 Dec 2023 23:55:01
Ahmad I couldn’t care less who he’s played for and what he says, I watch it every single week, Marcus rashford is not our best player, in fact in order to start again I’d be cashing in on him this summer because he’s quite frankly too erratic and turns up when he can be bothered! To me that’s not a good player! To your mate Yorke that might be fine but to a paying ticket holder no chance! He also goes on about how ETH should have dealt with certain players, I’m telling you now Fergie would have sold rashford two years ago for his behaviour and inconsistency!


9.) 01 Jan 2024 00:47:34
Chris. Yorke was literally World Class. He played in our best ever side as a professional footballer. He knows far more than any of us, and will know much more insider info than we do.

Shappy - love your posts, but by gosh they’re long.

Happy New Year chaps. Here’s to some positive change at our great club in 2024.


10.) 01 Jan 2024 08:47:15
Eric he was very good no doubt he wasn’t world class

That’s irrelevant anyway, of course he’s entitled to an opinion but so are we . And I am not being told that rashford is our best player or anything along those lines . He epitomises everything that’s wrong with us currently.


11.) 01 Jan 2024 09:36:13
is exactly my point Shappy, with or without injuries spurs and Ange have an identity and style of play no matter who comes in player wise, same for Brighton, we don’t, yes we’ve a lot of injuries but so do they and just because Licha and Case are missing, basically the 2 we really miss, we shouldn’t suddenly be lacking a style of play, the whole squad trains in the same manner and just as Skipp and Hojberg (not good enough for spurs) come in and do a job because they’ve trained to that same style of play, our squad players should also be able to come in and do what’s been impressed upon them, injuries just an excuse for me as all clubs have them as is my point above and tbh I didn’t see much style of play consistently last season either and that’s with our fully fit squad.
Of this squad, Martinez, Shaw, Mainoo, Bruno, Garnacho and Hoijlund are the only ones I’d keep and I’m skeptical on Shaw and Bruno tbh, they’ve epitomised some of our worst displays and defeats, all that money spent and £420k Nacho our best player by a mile being relied upon to drag us through games, remarkable really.


12.) 01 Jan 2024 09:39:03
You're probably right ahmad the whole team was just awful but taking mainoo off was nuts, if it was an injury you can't blame him. but for tactical reasons ? its a long list of bewildering tactics by ten hag. if he loses to wigan, boy it's not worth thinking about.


13.) 01 Jan 2024 12:57:13
East End

I was so upset it really ruined the day for me and i wa mentally shattered and I topped it off with blowing a boat load on the golf course too which i should hav enever had the kind of bets given how bad my head was

I get the frustration that comes with watching a pathetic loss to a average team like forest. Its human nature to look for blaming something but in all honesty we were poor all game, we were worst in the first half and i was trying to understand why Bruno and ericsen were doing and Antony and Garnacho were poor and Rashford is not a striker and he si bang average when you play him there.

It was no Mainoo substitution that had an outcome on the game which i assume we wanted to win but collectively we were sh. t.


14.) 01 Jan 2024 15:23:38
Last part was spot on ? were just plain sh. t.


15.) 01 Jan 2024 19:12:03
Ahmad, all due respect but I question your intelligence and loyalty for posting headlines such as ‘Dwight Yorke thinks most fans are stupid’ on an open forum. He may be right, but I’m not sure what your mate would think if he read that.

Regardless of what Dwight Yorke actually thinks, I watch Rashford week in and week out and can tell you he’s a lazy so and so who thinks he’s much better than he actually is. Ex players feeding his ego does not help the situation either.

He’s a big time Charlie on and off the pitch, one of be happy to see the back of (amongst others) .


16.) 02 Jan 2024 08:15:24
Wazza

He is a united ambassador and has access to a lot more stuff than any of us here. I don't post everything he says or shows me on what's app as some of it would not be for the public domain. It has nothing to do with being disrespectful to the fans.

You can disagree with his view but I tend to listen to someone who has played the game at his level and knows what is going to on to some extend inside the club. For him, Its not a debate who is the best player in terms of ability in our squad. He artes many of the rest very average along the lines of some of the views here but not to that extreme.

You can view Rash as a big time Charlie and that's your choice bud.


 

 

17 Nov 2023 21:42:48
When are City and Chelsea getting relegated?

Welsh Red Devil

1.) 18 Nov 2023 09:26:37
Read somewhere a while ago city’s case will get dragged out possibly into 2025. I expect a massive punishment when its eventually is done. Dropping down a division will not be out of the question imo if these charges can be substantiated. Their case is not comparative to everton and a lot more serious.

If the stuff about chelsea rerouting payments off their books through third party companies then that is also quite serious and they will get major points decucted.

Then we get into this grey area of lawsuits by other clubs who can claim damages and cost to them by unfair practices. Pretty serious stuff that might go on for many years.

Imagine the teams who finished 5th or even 6th in some of these years where both city and chelsea were in top 4 and costs of missing cl play.


2.) 18 Nov 2023 15:24:39
Not a cat in hells chance they or Chelsea will be relegated, nor should they if you only want that because of jealousy and the hope we might get further up the table then that says all one needs to know!


3.) 18 Nov 2023 16:33:10
They'd have to demote City to the Championship, no point in deducting them any amount of points. If they'd lost 10 points last season they'd still have finished 3rd. Even losing 50 points wouldn't have relegated them. But I guess they'd have lost the revenue of European football for a season and a few players might have left.


4.) 18 Nov 2023 20:13:12
Hard to make a judgement on what the puniahment should be when it's not yet clear what evidence and indeed defences the club's have.

What I do think is that the EPLnkocling the arse out of this oa po nly going to strengthen the resolve of politicians to implement regulation of to football.

Football is a headline topic, standing up for the little man at the expense of the big man appeals to the public.

That was all announced on the day thw white paper into football regulation was punished or was originally supposed to be. And now the EPL response may well be the hammer iaed to put the nail in the coffin.


5.) 19 Nov 2023 08:48:58
Jealousy @Rangersred? How about contempt? Is that a good enough reason?

Toxic cheating leadership with major questions over the integrity of Pep at City and Barca. Funny how the only club with real integrity on his CV (Bayern) was the only one he had no success at. Coincidence? No. simple algebra. No blood, financial or referee doping = no silverware!


 

 

 

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14 Dec 2023 09:37:49
I still rate and would be happy with Potter tbh, wouldn’t let Chelsea cloud our thinking on him. I think it’s fairly likely ETH will be let go under a new regime and tbh I can’t really think of anyone else who United fans would be happy with, I think Potter ticks a lot of boxes.

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12 Oct 2023 22:44:42
SJR bid values the club higher with the structure of the bid by all accounts, so I guess if Qatar want it they’ll have to match/ beat the SJR valuation is. Of course it could be that SJR bid is in the press so that Qatar will up their offer. As an above poster said tho it’s boring reading about it now, I don’t want the Glazers to remain in any capacity so I’m firmly behind Qatar.

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03 Sep 2023 08:59:59
If they wait 2 more years or don’t sell then they condemn us to falling further behind on and off the pitch, that’s why most fans don’t like the leeches.

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31 Aug 2023 20:56:57
It’s me, I am within MU financial parameters and willing to accept the wages.

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30 Aug 2023 21:31:32
Clearly have no money in the pot due to sales. £4m for this keeper, £3-£7m loan fee for Cucarella, trying Amrabat on loan also.

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26 Jan 2024 11:54:56
Be Xabi won’t it.

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12 Jan 2024 08:52:21
Dan James created chaos tho, the new buzz word for failing strikers like Darwin, think of rather the pace and directness of James than Antony who provides literally nothing.

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01 Jan 2024 09:36:13
is exactly my point Shappy, with or without injuries spurs and Ange have an identity and style of play no matter who comes in player wise, same for Brighton, we don’t, yes we’ve a lot of injuries but so do they and just because Licha and Case are missing, basically the 2 we really miss, we shouldn’t suddenly be lacking a style of play, the whole squad trains in the same manner and just as Skipp and Hojberg (not good enough for spurs) come in and do a job because they’ve trained to that same style of play, our squad players should also be able to come in and do what’s been impressed upon them, injuries just an excuse for me as all clubs have them as is my point above and tbh I didn’t see much style of play consistently last season either and that’s with our fully fit squad.
Of this squad, Martinez, Shaw, Mainoo, Bruno, Garnacho and Hoijlund are the only ones I’d keep and I’m skeptical on Shaw and Bruno tbh, they’ve epitomised some of our worst displays and defeats, all that money spent and £420k Nacho our best player by a mile being relied upon to drag us through games, remarkable really.

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04 Dec 2023 09:01:23
Garnacho should be the one out of those staying loose for the counter, he already has a better end product and football intelligence than Rashford. It’s time people saw through this oh he’s a local boy so is Man Utd and he will come thru it gimmick, he is overpaid and lazy, he does not put effort in, he does not run, he is not a role model or barometer for any younger player at that club, and it’s not for the first time and it’s not under the first manager he’s been like this, let’s not let a decent run last Feb fool us, as bad eggs go he is one of them, I don’t care if he was born on the centre spot of OT he is a big issue at this club, of course not the only one, there are several who should have left this club a long time ago and other bad eggs, but this club is in dire need need of players who can handle this club, players to lead the way for the younger lads or to galvanise the team on pitch when it’s not going well, at present what do Nacho, Mainoo, Hojlund have, a sulking Rash and a whining Bruno, yes injuries have hampered us but there is a big summer ahead and big appointments to be made under the SJR footballing side regime.

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19 Oct 2023 10:02:49
A couple of maniacs voting full glazer ownership there lol.

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