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07 Mar 2015 08:01:19
Ed002, if you are around, and have the time. Reports in Portugal that United are close to a deal for William Carvalho. Not sure I would believe a deal is "close", but do you know if the club still have an interest in him? I thought we had moved on from him.

PS, I do not read twitter!

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{Ed002's Note - There is interest in Carvalho from a number of clubs still and there have been fairly recent approaches by Arsenal and Manchester United. Monaco and Atletico Madrid may also still be interested. Juventus and Chelsea passed on previous interest because of the cost. Sporting would ideally like to keep him a year or two more. Everyone knows the price and it is significant and there seems little room for negotiation. Liverpool looked at the player at the start of last year but I am not aware of any interest right now.}

1.) 07 Mar 2015 11:39:05
Ah, right. So he is still on the radar then. Thanks for that, Ed.



25 Aug 2014 22:23:38
Press association reporting than fee has been agreed with Madrid for DiMaria. Β£59.7m. Looks like the deal is all but done.

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1.) 25 Aug 2014 22:50:58
we NEED vidal or de jong to finish this jigsaw

2.) Defence still needs addressing too in my opinion.

Vidal and blind and I'd be happy.

3.) We are close to having a good squad again, and I can see Vidal and Blind happening. God what a fantastic window that would be and a timely reminder to the rest of Europe that we are still an elite club.



15 Jul 2014 00:16:28
Just got in from the Elbow convert which was brilliant. Just logged on to see all the replies from earlier about Blue Nun. LOL.
AJH, with you being such a wind up merchant yourself I can't believe you took me seriously. You really think I drink Blue Nun? :)
Just for the record I am an Ale man. We have several excellent breweries down here, and I love Doombar, Tribute, Betty Stoggs etc
I do like a bottle of the old Vin Rouge too. I try to get McGuigans Black Label when I can.
Unless Blue Nun is on offer of course lmaof. :)

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{Ed002's Note - I am glad they dragged you out of the vat in time BS.}

1.) Doombar is brilliant. You need to come to Sheffield for real ales, some brilliant ones.

2.) Betty you are a man!

3.) 15 Jul 2014 10:38:22
Glad you enjoyed the concert man ;)

4.) Has to be Cornish Knocker for me!
Where abouts in cornwall are you from, anywhere near the great heights of Four Lanes?

5.) Doombar - 'tis lovely

6.) PeeB, how dare you. A man?
I'm a proper Cornish maid thankyou. And proper Cornish maids drink ale. Lots of ale :)
Wilcey, I'm just outside St.Austell, so not too far from FourLanes.

7.) I was there too, brilliant set. Where abouts in Kernow do you live? Just got my season tickets for next season, so if you ever need a lift up gimmie a shout!

8.) Dan, I live about a mile from the Eden Project in Par. How about you?
Cheers for the lift offer buddy.

9.) 15 Jul 2014 16:31:12
Nice part of the world all of it. I'm in weymouth now and we have badger ales a few miles from us. Not bad for getting wobbly. Was in Plymouth with the kids last week and went round the barbican area up to the hoe and down to a park my kids like to play in. With a few drinks along the way;). Ended up in a nice tapas restaurant near centre of Plymouth.

10.) . didn't expect to see a conversation between a few 'Janners' on here. proper. Tonguer10.

11.) Camborne is the place to be in Cornwall. I grew up there and Betty Stoggs is the greatest Ale on the planet, hands down.

12.) Im in summercourt so not too far. I was working in Par last week! You get up to OT much then? I usually get there once or twice a season but I have gone whole hog and bought a pair of season tickets this year. Long old drive but I have always wanted to do it!

13.) Dan, not been much recently. Me and the Mrs both work full time, and she has to travel quite a bit. Not so easy now we have a little one. Try to get there when I can, with my bro and a couple of mates. Its such a long return trip so when we go we usually stay over night. We've actually done a few CL matches and driven back right after the game due to work commitments, and that is a killer day!
There is no better way than to spend a few hours in the Bishops Blaze before making your way round the corner to OT.



13 Jul 2014 21:11:03
Eds, lots of talk on here about Vidal, and I really hope it happens. But one name I've not heard mentioned for a long time is Lars Bender. Do you know if United still maintain an interest in him?

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{Ed002's Note - It will have moved on.}

1.) Good player but I imagine that 2 CM's in one window will be as much as we do so if vidal comes in I imagine we Will then wait for Strootman in Jan.



05 Jun 2014 13:35:01
Ed002, if you are around, do have any more recent info regarding Gundogan? I know he isn't being risked until next season so as to avoid any unnecessary risk of injury. But a few weeks back Klopp said that his back was "fine" and he has basically recovered from the actually spinal injury.
That is the last I have heard, or been able to find anywhere. Just wondered if you had heard any new info, and if you know whether or not he is still of interest to United.

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{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely Gundogan will move this summer, but if he does it amy well be to Barcelona if they rekindle previous interest.}




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22 Apr 2019 08:57:45
Morning all, hope you have all calmed down just a littleπŸ˜€
Ben thinking this morning, trying to look for some positives and just came up with this crazy theory.
Many are questioning Ole's appointment. But maybe, just maybe this may actually be a very shrewd appointment after all?
What if ( and it's a big if) Woodward and the rest of the bumbling fools have actually realised what a state the squad is, and the bad apples that are actually there . They know they need a big clear out and a rebuild. They have also found out that in recent seasons that on the whole, the fans have backed the players over 'outsider' managers, and also know if that ultimately the manager takes responsibility and that it is always going to be easier to get rid of one man rather than the players.
By appointing Ole, a club legend, they know the fans will back him, and will be right behind him in getting rid of said bad apples no matter who they are.
Maybe, just maybe there is a purpose in appointing a fans favourite, a club legend despite him not having the experience or successful managerial background that we would normally expect?

Just to make it clear, I am still unsure about Ole, but certainly not one calling for his sacking already. He was a huge risk, but like previous managers, needs to be given the time and the backing to put things right. Time will tell if he is the right man, not the last 6 weeks.

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1.) 22 Apr 2019 10:53:51
He keeps mentioning next pre season which gives me a slither of hope that he is going to drill some sort of system or style of play into the players.

We are not going to get rid of all the players as people have furiously suggested, we will be lucky to get rojo and darmian off the books.

The likes of smalling, jones, young, matic, sanchez and lukaku will all be here next season. It is not looking good so you are not going to find many positives.

2.) 22 Apr 2019 11:50:21
Yes Betty, hope your theory works out.
Ole must be ruthless this summer. Clear the sulkers out.



With Manchester United, is it always the Manager's fault?

17 Apr 2019 13:36:34
{Ed's Note - betty swollocks has posted a new article entitled, With Manchester United, is it always the Manager's fault?

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1.) 17 Apr 2019 14:27:24
Good post Betty. Interesting analysis and I respect your view. I read every word of the post. Makes sense and keep it coming. πŸ‘πŸ‘.

2.) 17 Apr 2019 16:14:22
Bit of a knee jerk reaction.

3.) 17 Apr 2019 17:44:34
LoL Danny, still the same sense of humour I see. Keep it up mate!

4.) 17 Apr 2019 18:32:33
Betty. That was a very good read i have been posting the same for over 2 years.
The players are and have been for some time the problem.
We have a few who really do have pride in the badge but unfortunately some of them are not good enough really either.
If ole was to be ruthless
Valencia herrera and mata should go on free's get what they can for darmian rojo periera sanchez young bailly and jones.
If pogba and ddg want out then sell them to the highest bidder particularly if we don't make top 4.
In romero and henderson we have two very good keepers.
Tuanzebe could come in and do no worse than jones bailly and rojo.
Dalot and shaw both need cover and competition. Young Valencia rojo and darmian provide no competition and really poor cover.
Herrera on his way
Pogna possibly too
Fred has shown very little so far
Matic on the decline
Mctom is the only relative bright spot
Up front jessie is neither this nor that.
Martial has been worse than shocking.
Sanchez likewise. Although i would play sanchez every time before martial.
Rash. Hot n cold but really looks like he wants to learn and outs in a lot in every game.
Lukaku. Scores goals in right set up this is not the right set up.

So we are at a crossroad again.
I say promote from within where possible.
Sell or realease any 8 or 9 from the above list and buy the players ole wants to fit his system.
Moyes lvg jose were all sacked and the club backed the players. Wrongly imo.
Backing the staff over the management rarely works.
The tail has been wagging the dog.
Over 85% of us here say the squad is weak.
Every pundit in fact every man and his dog knows that the squad is cole to the worst its ever been.
Iur top 2 players in terms of ability want to leave.
Thats also a big indication they know exactly where our squad is ability wise.
We have martial and sanchez on 250 and 410k per week on long contracts and producing little or nothing.
Rojo 160k per week
Pogba 275k per week.
It really is a mess.
The man sacking the managers is the one who should be sacked.
Player power backed by the dictatorship is and has been proven to disastrous.

5.) 17 Apr 2019 23:54:34
Crikey Ed ( whichever one made this an 'article' ), I feel privileged! Never had a post put up with its own link and an introduction. Just out of interest, how do you choose post that are to become 'articles'? Thanks anyway Ed.

Hope you, and all the Eds and posters are well.

{Ed033's Note - A long post over 700 words might be considered as an article, if it's written well enough

6.) 18 Apr 2019 07:58:02
Oh right, thanks for the reply Ed. Snappy must get lots of articles put up them - most of his posts are over 7000 words, never mind 700 :)

{Ed001's Note - you missed the 'written well enough' bit ;-)

All joking aside, it also has to be a fresh post, rather than a reply, as we don't want to ruin a thread by taking a post from it and putting it up out of context on its own as an article. Most of Shaps' stuff tends to be replies, so they are not able to be considered.}



01 Jan 2019 00:21:13
Happy New Year all, Eds and posters alike. Wishing you all a happy, healthy and prosperous 2019.

Take care πŸ˜€.

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02 Sep 2018 19:05:48
How strange - United play well, dominate and win a game of football and not a single new post since the game ended (other hand some replies to earlier posts) .

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1.) 02 Sep 2018 19:23:54
Agreed. Was great to see. Jose went with what he knows and hey presto, comfortable win.

Still cannot believe the morons went ahead and hired the plane and banner. If anybody on here was part of it, I’d love to hear your reasons and rationale behind it and why you thought it would help us in our current position?

2.) 02 Sep 2018 19:27:07
How very quiet the chat was too.

It was a very good performance against a team who have been historically difficult to beat especially away from home.

Fellaini typically justified joses decision to play him and show how good a player he actually is.

Onwards and upwards from here.

3.) 02 Sep 2018 19:48:19
Some of us have to work weekends, Betty!

4.) 02 Sep 2018 19:56:11
Played well today, players looked sharp and good in moments. That said I think people need to realise this isn't the Burnley of last season before thinking we have turned a corner. Burnley this season look like relegation material so far.

You have to beat the team in front of you and we did. Lukaku needs to sharpen his finishing for me, I didn't like seeing the land of the plodding giants in midfield, but it worked today. Plenty of times the managers tactics haven't worked so let's not forget that, Fellaini shouldn't be starting ahead of a new Β£60m signing for me, with the manager bitching about not being backed.

5.) 02 Sep 2018 20:07:03
Oh beast. It's a squad game. Fred has started he first 3 and fellaini played today. Should the manager not be able to do that, surely that's the reason we have a squad.

I'd imagine you said Burnley were relegation fodder when they came up too.

Reality is, tough team, well organised and an even tougher ask when they play at home.

We could have had a few more goals today. Last 2 games we have created a lot of chances, very positive.

Fellaini doesn't get the credit he deserves. Very capable player who on is day is an absolute nightmare.

6.) 02 Sep 2018 20:44:57
I'll get absolute pelters for this but I actually think Fellaini can be very effective as part of a midfield 3.

He's a tough physical presence and when he's allowed to get forward and make runs into the box he's very hard to handle. When he's allowed to make runs into the box he provides us with a an effective option in addition to Lukaku. If we can get good delivery he becomes a nightmare for defenders to handle especially when he pulls onto the back post and isolates the full back. He's also very effective against teams that like to press as we can hit the ball into midfield from goal kicks where he invariably wins flick ons or he's able to bring the ball down on his chest and we can start attacks higher up the pitch.

Fellaini is poor when he's asked to play a deep lying defensive role. He's not good enough on the ball or quick enough to cover the ground and the game often passes him by. Used correctly he's a very good player although I accept the purists will never accept this.

I've been impressed with Fred but I'm not quite sure what kind of player he is yet or his best role. It's a squad game and no doubt he'll be suited to other games and I expect him to make a impact this season.

7.) 02 Sep 2018 20:58:03
A good 3 points which it should be against Burnley.
Watford put 3 past them and Fulham 4 past them,
Now I'm happy with the 3 points but we still have a lot to prove
The next penalty we get should be given to Sanchez
And as for that banner that flew over today, what a joke.

8.) 02 Sep 2018 21:11:41
Leahy, had the chances been taken and penalty scored we would have been a lot more than 2 up.

I envisage that that team are going to score a lot more in the coming weeks as players get sharper.

I hope Jose has turned a corner with tactics too. Seem to be a lot more attacking last 2 games.

9.) 02 Sep 2018 21:09:17
I appreciate that Noucamp, but it doesn't stop some when we lose does it?

10.) 02 Sep 2018 21:11:41
Leahy, had the chances been taken and penalty scored we would have been a lot more than 2 up.

I envisage that that team are going to score a lot more in the coming weeks as players get sharper.

I hope Jose has turned a corner with tactics too. Seem to be a lot more attacking last 2 games.

11.) 02 Sep 2018 21:28:31
Jose = Born winner πŸ˜†πŸ˜†.

12.) 02 Sep 2018 21:33:59
Fair enough, Betty. I only managed to catch the first 20 odd minutes, and we looked totally in control. Don't like commenting on something I haven't seen, but by all accounts we continued in that vein.

13.) 02 Sep 2018 22:15:29
No probs Nou, it wasn't aimed at any individuals anyway - and certainly not you! Thought we played really well today, and the interesting thing for me is that we didn't really play too much differently to our previous games. There were changes in defence of course, and Fellini in for Fred, but for me taking our chances first behalf made a huge difference and confidence grew - even after going down to 10 men.
It's a shame we didn't take our early chances in the previous two games as I think things would have been very different and we could have avoided the circus that has been the last 2 weeks.

14.) 02 Sep 2018 22:24:04
Rumour has it The Sun was behind the plane, from all the utd forums I've been i haven't seen anyone part of it.

15.) 02 Sep 2018 22:31:47
Betty, i haven't seen the game. But Burnley have got 1 point in 4 matches. So let's not start beefing this victory as if we beat Barca. We are supposed to beat Burnley, just like we were supposed to beat Brighton, and we didn't.
Well done tp the team on winning, but let's not ho overboard.

16.) 02 Sep 2018 22:24:04
Rumour has it The Sun was behind the plane, from all the utd forums I've been i haven't seen anyone part of it.

17.) 02 Sep 2018 22:31:47
Betty, i haven't seen the game. But Burnley have got 1 point in 4 matches. So let's not start beefing this victory as if we beat Barca. We are supposed to beat Burnley, just like we were supposed to beat Brighton, and we didn't.
Well done tp the team on winning, but let's not ho overboard.

18.) 02 Sep 2018 23:06:07
AAA, who's getting carried away? A few of us have said we played well today. We did play well today. Would it really be too painful to acknowledge a good performance?

Haven't seen Barcelona mentioned anywhere. And after all, our season is already over, so no point celebrating anyway.

19.) 02 Sep 2018 23:36:50
Betty don't even bother with AAA. Three games in before today, the season was already over and top 4 was very close to being gone. 3 games gone! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You can't try and argue with a person that comes out with the above logic, lol.

20.) 03 Sep 2018 00:36:29
One of the rare occasions I didn't see the game as I was at work.

Just watched MOTD 2 and Fellaini played just in front of the CB's in a deep midfield role and apparently played very well in complete contrast to my above post. Just goes to show I know absolutely nothing and I should watch before assuming anything.

Can only think Jose was expecting Burnley to play long and direct and deployed Fellaini as a shield in front of the CB's to help combat their aerial threat and physicality. Told you all Fellaini is a great defensive midfielder πŸ˜‚! (Having said I'm not convinced it would work against a team with great pace and movement) . Got the job done today though and I stand by what I said. He's certainly a useful squad player.

21.) 03 Sep 2018 17:28:49
Betty, it was the original post that mentioned that not a lot of people have come on to congratulate the team.
I always want us to win and will always congratulate the team. But this was Burnley, who have been playing absolute trash so far thos season. So maybe that's why people weren't rushing to congratulate the team on this victory.
Its 3 points and we move on to the next match. Watford away, if we get a result there, then I'll be the first to come on and congratulate the team.



13 Aug 2018 15:23:33
Only 20 add teams in the Manchester United Fans Fantasy Football league - nobody bothering this year? (obviously apart from the 25 that have! )

Liverpool got 420 entries.

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1.) 13 Aug 2018 17:46:09
The code up top was for Liverpool so all went in that I think.

2.) 13 Aug 2018 18:52:51
What's the code for this page?

3.) 13 Aug 2018 18:54:36
Ah ok WRD, maybe that explains it. Thanks for the reply.
Many from this page entered?

4.) 13 Aug 2018 19:15:38
I think the code I used for this page was 2705078-672891.

5.) 13 Aug 2018 19:24:59
That might explain it as I was going to say does anyone actually work in Liverpool or just sign on the giro and wear purple shell track suits with 80s music blasting from the boom box and playing football manager
Sorry Scousers πŸ˜€πŸ˜€
Or maybe betty should have reposted it a few timesπŸ˜€πŸ˜€.

6.) 13 Aug 2018 19:32:19
420? Light it up bruh!

7.) 13 Aug 2018 20:18:23
League, I do appreciate the irony of you repeatedly posting about a repost.
Sometimes it's better to let people assume you are stupid rather than opening your mouth and removing any doubt.
I don't know why you have suddenly shown such an interest in me - I don't ever remember offending you - but maybe we should just be grown ups and stop the silliness?

8.) 13 Aug 2018 20:29:10
League? Leahy obviously.

9.) 13 Aug 2018 21:33:26
Sorry for upsetting you betty, I was just having a laugh about it. Trying to make light of it only.

10.) 13 Aug 2018 21:55:53
No issue my end Leahy. Still don't know what prompted it in the first place.
Clean slate and all that.

11.) 13 Aug 2018 22:26:13
Clean forgot. Best start in years as well 😏.

12.) 14 Aug 2018 14:12:49
I joined using the code on this page and left when i saw lg name.




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16 May 2019 10:22:51
Only open today for domestic transfers Ports - I think?
Transfers from abroad cannot happen (be completed) until the TMS opens mid June.

Sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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05 Dec 2018 18:02:40
I think we could see a much busier January window in general than previous years. With the summer window shutting early I think there were lots of potential deals not completed because the selling clubs were reluctant to lose players with little time to replace them.
I guess time will tell, eh.

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13 Nov 2018 06:59:04
Depends what the question is FZZ!

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12 Nov 2018 19:13:01
My thought entirely Red Man. Jose is not without fault, of course. He has made plenty of mistakes, and continues to do so. His whole demeanor is wrong, and the knock on effects from that are obvious for all to see.
But the managers issues are a great shield for all the others to hide behind, from the board all the way down to the players.

Mourinho won't be here long, but will things really change that much when he has been replaced? I am not sure it will, not until the whole club undergoes a massive and long overdue overhaul.

Changing the manager is, I fear, just scratching at the surface of our problems. But the fans, and the press especially need a target. A focal point, and for now at least, Jose fits the bill very well.

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30 Sep 2018 09:00:57
Is Jose doing a good job?

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16 May 2019 12:57:36
Nothing to disagree with there Keanooh. Some people are just negative full stop, but to be fair to a lot of our fans I think that even some of the more positive ones are getting fed up with the way things are going. Some of it is just frustration, but its difficult to understand just how badly things are going - especially given the amount of money that has been spent on players, and no doubt on getting rid of managers.
Money doesn't guarantee success, but we should be in a much better place than we currently are.
The whole thing is a mess at the moment.

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16 May 2019 11:17:30
Keanooh - I don't think this is about being positive or negative though. I've not posted much recently, but have been on the site for years and have always been one of the 'positive' ones.
This is more to do with us getting fed up with the club making bad decision after bad decision, and seemingly never learning from their mistakes and continuing to make rash decisions.
I like Ole I really do - most people do. But what makes him right for the biggest job in football right now? Oh, yes he used to play for us and scored THAT goal.

I genuinely hope he succeeds. Its not about being negative, or having a go at Ole. Its about the club and how it is being run, or at least the decisions it is making.

Time will tell I guess, but let's just hope Ole does the right things rather than just saying them.
Actions speak louder than words, as they say.

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16 May 2019 06:54:25
Thanks for the advice GDS. I've had a decent break already and feel quite refreshed thanks πŸ‘
To be fair, I do agree that we shouldn't take much notice of such quotes - but personally the points I made above are not just based on Danny's OP, but more generally.
Some may agree, some may not but there is no denying that Ole says all the right things - let's just hope there is some substance to it.

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15 May 2019 20:47:24
That's not necessarily true Ken. Jose's bluntness and negativity are completely different to him standing up to the suits. The two are not mutually exclusive.
I thought Jose was right to stand up to them, but it was the way he went about it and his whole negative demeanor that was all wrong.
I'm not suggesting that Ole is wrong trying to be positive, nor that he cannot be a success. It just comes across that he says these things for saying sake - because it sounds good.
He just doesn't sound very convincing to me, and as Danny puts it, seems happy to toe the party line.
I actually think he was a shrewd appointment as an interim manager because that loyalty to the club and rapport with the fans was ideal to'steady the ship'.
As many have already said, we need a complete clearing of the decks and start again. We need to move on and start over with fresh ideas, and a new outlook if we are to return to the top of the game. Instead, we seem desperate to cling on to the past - a mistake in my opinion.
But let me make it clear - that is not Ole's fault. I'm not saying he will fail, not that I want him to. Quite the opposite.
I want him to succeed, and the team. But to do that he will need to be strong and stand up to Woodward and co and be allowed to do his own thing. Otherwise he is already doomed to failure.

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15 May 2019 19:36:36
Absolutely guys. I said on here weeks ago that I just hope Ole is not a 'yes man', and that was before the pathetic run in the last few games. Needless to say, that got a lot of criticism because Ole 'is one of us' and 'gets the club's - all of which I actually agree with.

I know there is a lot of PR and bull@#*t involved, but I just get the impression that Ole has been appointed because he can be manipulated into doing and saying whatever Woodward and his fellow suits want him to.

That does not mean that he is a poor manager, just that I think he will be a soft touch for Woodward and co, when what we actually need is someone who will be strong and stand up to them when he needs to .

All seems a bit too cozy for my liking, especially given the state we are currently in.

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