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31 May 2018 22:48:00
Wonder if Jose might be on his way back to Madrid with Zidane gone. If so who would come in here and I guess it would really play havoc with our transfer plans.


1.) 01 Jun 2018 00:15:08

2.) 01 Jun 2018 00:48:46
Thr papers (who have absolutely no facts) are saying wenger as favourite for RM

Tgey have also linked every manager in the top 10 of football so.

Tge Wenger thing i don't understand at all tho.

3.) 01 Jun 2018 11:08:52
If . Big if. if jose was too leave . I'd go for Simone and let him bring greisman with him.

4.) 01 Jun 2018 11:51:33
No interest in Simeone from my side.
Would be even more “results over style” then Mourinho.
Would put us in a difficult spot with the season being over and transfer plans in full swing from all clubs.
Only positive would be it being a World Cup year, which is a big stumbling block in transfer dealings for the involved players anyway.

5.) 01 Jun 2018 23:31:04
Fat Sam is available 🤢 don’t think you would notice any difference if they swapped Jose for pulis.



03 Jul 2017 11:35:00
On talk sport, Jim White is saying Rooney is off to Everton. I think he would do well there especially as he will be really motivated for his boyhood club. I can see Everton being a real force this season. Would you guys be happy if we got Ross Barclay as part of the deal.


1.) 03 Jul 2017 11:54:46
Everton a real force hahaha.

2.) 03 Jul 2017 11:57:10
Not in anyway. Ross Barkley is bang average, always has been. Why would we want him? Where would he play?

3.) 03 Jul 2017 12:07:36
I don't want anything coming back the other way in this one. Barkley is only rated as he is English - his talent will be wasted. He should be up there with Alli in performance levels.

4.) 03 Jul 2017 12:20:51
Don't know how true but I was told Rooney was lined up for a coaching role at Everton next summer.

5.) 03 Jul 2017 12:32:07
I'd let rooney leave for free, we had the best Rooney years a while back so let him go and end his PL career with Everton. Oh and no I wouldn't want Barkley either.

6.) 03 Jul 2017 12:48:44
I thought Everton were making decent steps last season. Signings so far been ok. I wouldn't write them off.

7.) 03 Jul 2017 12:52:56
If Lukaku was part of the deal then how would you feel?

8.) 03 Jul 2017 13:37:10
Probably the new driver Jred.

9.) 03 Jul 2017 13:47:30
Everton have a good manager and made some astute signings. They will push for a top 4 spot this season i suspect but i'd imagine they will come up short.
As for rooney going back there. It would be nice for him to play out his career for the team and club he loves. He has had a great career at united ultimately 3 years too long probably but he will leave with the thanks of all supporters ringing in his ears i'd say. i'm sure when he conned back to OT he will get a great reception from the fans who will look back and ignore the last few years and remember the good times.

10.) 03 Jul 2017 13:50:39
conned? Who has he conned ken? ;)

11.) 03 Jul 2017 14:46:23
Would thank Rooney for his service and let him go for free to everton. Big wages off the books, but wouldn't want Barkley everton fans don't want him .

12.) 03 Jul 2017 14:58:15
I'd definitely let him go for free, it's the sensible business decision. Nobody is going to pay for him and I don't even know what value he has as a footballer, it's commercially where a buying lcub would see the benefits. Big wage bill off the books too.

He should and will go down as a legend.

The only reason I can't see him going to Everton (other than wages) is because I really don't see how he will get in their team.

13.) 03 Jul 2017 15:27:52
I would straight swap rooney and or fellaini for barkley. Putting aside how good you think barkley is it would make finacial sense. In this market you could sell barkley on for at least 30m next year.

I agree with most that barkley has been overrated in the past but he isn't average. He contributed to 13 league goals last season that's more than most of our squad members managed.

14.) 03 Jul 2017 17:06:08
Hi all,
Thanks to the Eds as always.
Got a good old fashioned friend of a friend rumour for you.
My brother in law, his girlfriend's dad is an Everton fan and he has said today the Lu Lu Lukaku is heading to United. Can't say I believe it but as I've said before I'd be happy if that came off.

15.) 03 Jul 2017 19:07:56
I can see lukaku coming tbh. I personally think he would be a brilliant signing for us. Good old fashioned striker who has consistently scored goals in teams that aren't challenging for the league. i'm not saying everton are bad side but if he can get the goals there surely with a bit of a step up he's going to score more.

16.) 04 Jul 2017 11:39:22
I like Barkley, not sure he is good enough for CL level. Had the potential, but not kicked on, so I'd give him a swerve.

In terms of Rooney - my prediction is he will start off well for 3-4 games, then by Xmas he will phased out of the team when they realise he is not mobile/ capable enough for the way they play. If we can get away with not paying any of his wages then it's a phenomenal way to get out of jail. I'd let him go for free of course, in fact I'd let him go if they offered to send us Gibson, Phil Neville and Tim Howard as part of the deal, lol.




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17 Jun 2018 23:18:37
I know it's only a few minutes on TV but seeing Savic play for Serbia today I have to say he did look a very good player. Wonder if Matic will be instructed by Jose to persuade him to come to Old Trafford.


{Ed002's Note - It is about money not desire.}

1.) 18 Jun 2018 08:36:32
Honestly. I don't see the hype. What did you see yesterday that persuaded you he's worth £90m? He's big and cumbersome, we have Matic and Mctominay who do this job. I would rather see us targetting Isco and Veratti.

2.) 18 Jun 2018 09:37:27
People are bored of pogba want a new shiny thing in the shape of savic.

If we sign him, in two years time fans will be tired of savic and want to sign pogba back.

We have a very good team, not many changes need to be made.

3.) 18 Jun 2018 09:40:34
Hes double the player matic is at the moment . But i think him and pogba are two big personalities and there is only room for one superstar in midfield.

4.) 18 Jun 2018 12:48:15
Singh, you were obviously not watching the match closely and possibly only were watching Savic in action. He lost the ball on countless times. His range of passing is nowhere near as good as Pogba's. Matic was superb yesterday.



07 Jun 2018 07:27:31
I know it will never happen but it would be interesting to have a fans 11 at a world cup made up of players not selected by all the national teams. Fans could select players from any country to make one team.


1.) 07 Jun 2018 08:59:36
I like the idea and in events like the Olympics you do have those wildcard entries for country's who haven't entered or been expelled like Russia in the winter Olympics.

I imagine the legal side of things would be a nightmare.

There's money to be made though a world 11 sponsored by Cadbury playing in purple etc

So unlikely but wouldn't say impossible when there's a chance of coin to be made.



04 Jun 2018 00:37:49
Call me old fashioned or maybe just plain stupid but doesn't it annoy anyone else other than me that almost the first thing a new manager does is ask for as big a budget as possible to buy new players. I would love just for once to see a top flight manager come into a new club and not buy a single player but rather coach and man manage the existing squad and improve it noticeably.


1.) 04 Jun 2018 08:27:14
Jose has improved the players, we jumped from 6th to 2nd, of all his signings only Lukaku and Matic have shone, we needed a striker to replace Zlatan and a MF to replace Carrick so in that aspect I think Jose has improved existing players as the other signings have left or been left out or been poorer than we’d like, wether some of those existing players and indeed signings are good enough to take the next step we all crave tho is another matter, no matter how good the coaching is, so spending money has to happen. Unfortunately at a club such as ours spending years waiting for existing players to reach certain heights isn’t a luxury United and jose has.

2.) 04 Jun 2018 10:28:26
Welsh red,

Has Jose improved the players? I beg to differ. I’d say he’s failing to get the best from most of them personally. How can you say about Lukaku and Matic when they’re both in their first season? I’d say Lingard is the only one who improved. Rashford and Martial have gone backward, Sanchez Is a shadow of the player he was at Arsenal, Pogba hasn’t improved, Bailly our best CB has been left out. Valencia has declined badly. In fact, Matic was poor from Christmas onward and Lukaku is not a top player. His touch is woeful, he’s not a top striker.

I think Jose is past it tbh. Look at the trophies he won in the first half of his career, and then the second. There is a significant drop in trophies won. And in this system he deploys I don’t personally think it matters who we sign. We could sign Messi and Ronaldo and we’d still be boring. That’s why I can’t get excited about transfers this summer, whoever we sign won’t make a difference playing this style.

3.) 04 Jun 2018 10:45:34
Some have improved but some haven't. It must be very difficult to get the best out of everyone who by the way are all multi- millionaires. It's all or nothing this coming season every player needs to be on board to stand a chance. 😆😆.

4.) 04 Jun 2018 10:55:02
Stand-U I think that was quite a harsh assessment. Matic hasn't been poor since Christmas, may have had an off game or so but certainly not poor. I also think young's form in the twilight of his career has to be mentioned.
We can never be more boring than we were under LvG.

5.) 04 Jun 2018 11:16:09
Rashford has been on a downwar spiral since his first 3 games for United. How has Jose led to his going backwards. He has played the most number of games for United this season.

Young has been good, so good that he has been called up for England ahead of several that most fans here would want to be playing at LB for us. Lindelof (being in his first season and only 22) has improved as the season has gone on. Valencia has been a very solid RB for us this season. How has he gone backwards, is it because of his age or Jose? Smalling has been one of the best CBs in the premier league this season. I simply can't stand seeing him play but i have to call what i see and Smalling and Jones partnership has excelled this season. Matic has been our player of the season. McTominay has been gelled into the first team. Lingard has had the best season of his career. Lukaku has scored more goals than last. Its not Jose's fault that his first touch is poor and that isn't something coaching would effect. If it were down to coaching, SAF would have done something about Rooney's first touch. Some people only like being negative and their posts show as much.

6.) 04 Jun 2018 11:39:24
Exactly, some people make us believe that any manager will not be good enough if they are not consistently winning things.

7.) 04 Jun 2018 11:53:43
Rumour has it Jose is at fault for sane not making the Germany squad.

8.) 04 Jun 2018 12:57:24
I don't think many (if any) of our fans are forming their opinion on Jose based on whether we won a trophy or not this season.

99.99% of the criticism is on account of the way we play, most of us would accept missing out to a tremendous Man City and Real Madrid so long as we missed out in style. Missing out and playing truly awful football is the issue, so please let's not misdirect or misinterpret the reason behind the criticism of Jose.

He has the tools, finances, 2 years to plan/ prepare and he has got away with murderous football - let's hope he turns it around this year. Win, Lose, or Draw I would like to do so being Man Utd. There can be no excuses next season as a third year in a job is long enough for the team to be yours in anyone's book!

9.) 04 Jun 2018 13:11:46
I didn’t say he’s improved Matic and Lukaku I said of his signings they are the ones that shone.
Valencia and Young have improved for me, Lingard as you say, McTominay integrated, Jones when he’s fit seems a better defender, Lindelof improved as the seasom wore o. In fact I would say Lukaku all round game has improved also, are we saying Jose had no impact at all on this?
Rashford has had many minutes, Sanchez will come back good imo, Martial has only himself to blame as does Shaw, Pogba is harshly treated when his stats aren’t that bad actually but jury out on him for me.
Tbh I agree with Beast, we have improved in terms of players mindset is better, points, goals, position all improved but it’s the style of football which is where he should be rightfully criticised, can’t argue anything else he’s done as it’s obvs improvement, I feel next season is a massive one for Jose.

10.) 04 Jun 2018 13:12:25
No way has Jose ruined Rashford. He has been given plenty of opportunities by Jose, admittedly a lot from the subs bench but he has not made an impact on a regular basis.
He did last season when we won the Europa League but not this season.
Yes it’s hard when coming on as a sub but you have to be ready and as a forward you must make an impact.
We never complained about Solsjkaers impact from the bench, yes that is extreme but it shows what can be done. This is a learning season for Rashford he is not yet the finished article.
Without Lukaku’s goals we wouldn’t of finished 2nd so his touch although frustrating to watch is not everything.

11.) 04 Jun 2018 14:52:33
Under Moyes the style was bad.
Under van Gaal the style was bad.
Under Jose the style is bad.

Do we pick coaches with no style?
Or do we accept some players aren't good enough for the style required?

It can't all be down to the managers that things are poor in terms of style. Didn't Jose berate them post game for not following instructions.

12.) 04 Jun 2018 15:04:02
Doesn’t Jose always try to pass the buck when things go wrong?

13.) 04 Jun 2018 15:56:06
I think most fans knew that moyes and Jose played a certain brand.
Lvg had played a boring brand for the last 10 years I think a few had there fingers crossed lvg was suddenly going to be the manager he was 10 year before .
That's maybe the case with Jose as well.

14.) 04 Jun 2018 16:41:06
Mort, I said a week or two back I find it baffling that a club with a history of playing tradition (in the main) such as ours would appoint 3 managers on the spin that are the opposite to our traditions.
As jred says Moyes we knew from Everton played one way, LVG played one way for the last decade, I think we all hoped that Jose would embrace our way, maybe it’s just me thinking he had it at Chelsea 1st time and Real he’d do it here and maybe he still will but this is what happens when we don’t watch week in and week out our opponents, Chelsea fans did say don’t expect flamboyance.
But he does get the job done more often than not and that’s where the fan base spilts, the likes of me and Beast and many others no doubt would like to see the football and win or go down playing the right way, others say it’s all about the trophies, and that’s true, it’s about winning for Jose and the club, is such an odd feeling to have winning things, improving things but not quite happy.

15.) 04 Jun 2018 17:03:20
WRD, the argument we see on this site and the one I've been persuaded by is that there is a third way. Specifically, Jose keeps it tight and grinds out results for a few seasons until he has a team he can trust to play more expansive football.

Results do matter because they mean we at least stay in contention and for example qualify for the champions league which means we can attract a better standard of player and we have the revenue to pay (for) them.

I've been told by posters on this site that Jose needs three seasons and with the pretty much unlimited budget he has, he will have the team he needs by the end of next season. Ok then, I'll wait for that to happen and then in season four I'll expect something pretty bloody dynamic from his team.

If by season four we are still labouring away and I find washing the car more exciting than watching Utd, then I will expect a massive apology from certain posters on this site for convincing me to stick with Jose when after two seasons I was pretty sure that the football under him would always be dire and we should get shut sooner rather than later.

16.) 04 Jun 2018 17:35:55
Certainly don't get me wrong if its still bad in 12 months time then the question has to be asked. But given we're still playing with players that shouldn't be here then should we not wait till the jobs done.

17.) 04 Jun 2018 18:46:18
I just think united should play a certain brand of football and be challenging and indeed winning things but I know that’s a hard combination to master.
Maybe we are all waiting in hope rather than expectation that we will see a shift in playing style. For me personally I really wanted the United/ jose alliance to work and I find it hard to say next manager please so frequently but maybe I’m clouding my own judgement by SAF being here so long, times have changed a lot even since Fergie retired.

18.) 04 Jun 2018 22:30:13
What if Jose thinks then players should be . Fellaini for example or Tony his captain smalling his first choice cb .
What if Jose picks them because he rates them and actually he wants to play the way we set up to play week after week .



28 May 2018 01:49:14
Watching the Spurs v Utd match from Sept 2001 when we came back from 3 - 0 down to win 5-3. whats immediately apparent is just how much we had great fullbacks who were able to get up and down the pitch and cross accurately and with pace. We just don't have that today and are poorer for it.


1.) 28 May 2018 08:49:46
Three top centre backs unlocks a team to attack just like in the spurs game. Not with Smalling and Jones. Marcelo didn't do much defending on Saturday come to think of it he always seems to attack. Blanc and Johnsen were in control of that 2nd half against spurs allowing the fullbacks to play the Marcelo way . Silvestre and Neville played like wingers. I think SAF once said that this was one of his favourite games . Mine too 😆😆.

2.) 28 May 2018 10:52:37
I loved it because of the passion and desire we showed to rescue the game. Spurs were completely shell shocked, oh for more of those days.

3.) 28 May 2018 18:10:41
When was the last time we scored 5 goals?



13 May 2018 08:04:51
Wonder if neymar to Real Madrid will be contingent on either Ronaldo or Bale moving out.


1.) 13 May 2018 09:45:01
Bale it seems will be off. If he can stay fit I would love him. Not sure he can stay fit.

2.) 13 May 2018 10:35:51
Doubt it will happen this summer. Real have a big rebuild on the cards, and can’t afford to add Neymar to the mix.

3.) 13 May 2018 17:07:01
The fact Bale celebrates a goal by sucking has thumb immediately disqualifies him for me. He was a great player but he seems far too fragile now, and this is in the Spanish League where tackling is a lot less fierce.

4.) 13 May 2018 18:17:30
Rumour has it we will be after Neymar and Real can’t afford him.

5.) 13 May 2018 18:34:35
Stay away from injury prone players. We’ve had our fair share off them. Plus RM would want a ridiculous fee as well.




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12 Jun 2018 23:11:16
Probably Barcelona bound or maybe City.




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01 Jun 2018 09:17:57
It would be terrible if a repressive regime like the Saudis took control. Sad fact is nobody has batted an eyelid with the Quataris taking over/ investing in big clubs eg Barcelona and City. When it is an open secret that such states have serious connections to terrorists isn't it shameful that Fifa don't ban them. (oh forgot. that is the Fifa mired in controversy about awarding Qatar a world cup) . Let's hope the Glazers are more moral. If not us fans should kick up an almighty fuss.




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15 May 2018 21:34:56
Not sure I want a 29 going on 30 Yr old centre back as our main man in defence. I want someone who is 25 or 26 and just about to come into their prime and give us 4 or 5 years good service. Aldeweirauld is a good player no doubt but I don't think he is particularly fast and his pace will only diminish as he gets older.




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10 May 2018 17:39:01
He is a good player but he is too old. We need to build like City and like Utd of old younger players please.




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30 Apr 2018 23:35:44
I hope Pereira gets a chance.





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18 Jun 2018 21:47:38
I thought Jesse was the standout player in the first half and it is only because he didn't score that others will overlook how well he played. With regard to Maguire I think he had a solid match. He was obviously very nervous and don't forget he doesn't play olfor a big club like Utd so he will not have encountered the expectation that brings on a regular basis. I thought he was generally quite composed and I liked the way he tried to come out of defence with the ball thus making a Tunisian player have to approach him freeing up one of our midfielders.




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10 Jun 2018 22:57:28
Maybe there is a strategic reason for him going there for six months. Imagine how valuable he might be in the January transfer window to a champions league team plus he would not be tired out playing as he will be in a second rate league.




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10 Jun 2018 17:00:55
If we ge three really good years out of him and he helps make us defensively sound and allows the midfield and attacking players to flourish then it is money well spent. That said I am hesitant about spending that sort of money on a 29 yr old going on 30 Yr old. I would worry that he will have enough pace to keep up with the lightning quick attackers of eg City and Liverpool. I would rather we gave our younger players like Tuanzabe a go first and also Fosu Mensah. If they are not good enough get a top rated 25 or 26 year old.




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05 Jun 2018 21:35:50
Can't believe anyone would swap a 29 yr old who basically relies on his pace over Rashford who is so good at such a young age and who will only get better what happened to the Utd ethos of bringing through our own.




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04 Jun 2018 19:38:40
Don't think we are miles away from being a really good team. Remember how we were before Eric arrived? We were decent but he just provided the extra spark. I kind of feel that we are almost at that turning point again. There is a lot of talent at Jose disposal. if we click and stay clear of injuries we can be a real force.