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01 Jul 2020 20:05:30
Smalling and sanzhez loaned for another 12 month.

jred

1.) 01 Jul 2020 20:13:35
I guess it is till end of this season only. august 1st week max.


2.) 01 Jul 2020 20:14:38
That's not correct mate. Their deals have been extended to coincide with the remainder of the serie A season. Nothings been agreed for next season as of yet.


3.) 01 Jul 2020 22:10:25
ah must of mis read it.


4.) 02 Jul 2020 09:59:37
Loans to cover European ties in August still to be agreed.


5.) 02 Jul 2020 10:31:12
jred i seen on sky it said smalling loan for another season and Sanchez till end of current.

maybe a typo on sky.


 

 

27 Jun 2020 15:42:19
Sancho on the bench again.

jred

{Ed0666's Note - probably had another unsanctioned haircut


1.) 27 Jun 2020 15:52:39
It’s obvious his head has been turned however with C.V. 19 etc I just can’t see us paying what Dortmund want. There might not be anyone pay it either so he could very well stay. Think it’s best for the lad to get on with it and not burn any bridges, after all Dortmund have been good for him.


 

 

04 Jun 2020 18:15:13
Can we tick werner of the list looks like he is off to Chelsea.

jred

{Ed002's Note - Other sides have an interest in Werner as I have explained. Liverpool have not contacted RBL or made an offer but have disrupted there player through a series of illegal approaches. RBL have spoken with other sides including Inter Milan and Chelsea but have maintained the stance that the player has had his head turned. If an acceptable offer has been made by Chelsea then they will have permission to talk with the player. It is then down to the player to decide if he wants to make the move - and remember he has previously expressed a desire to join Bayern Munich, Manchester United and Liverpool. If Liverpool do wish to buy the player, and they should do the principled thing, then they need to make an acceptable offer for the player - but as I have explained money may well be an issue to Liverpool. So the ball is in the court of the player and Liverpool. But there remains some way to go.}


1.) 04 Jun 2020 18:39:00
Werner is obviously a good player and doesn’t look like we’ve been in for him despite his previous quotes wishing to play for United and Liverpool (a slightly worrying sign in itself) . Ed’s comment suggests Livepool may need to sell before buying. Good news for the rest of the Prem.

Interesting to see what happens next. Werner to Chelsea may perhaps free up Sancho to United?


2.) 05 Jun 2020 04:18:38
A little disappointed that we didn’t make a move for him as I can see him being very successful in the Premier League, but I suppose right wing and center midfield are more important right now.


3.) 05 Jun 2020 14:43:13
Liverpool at it again with the illegal approaches. They should have points deducted from this season's total. Preferably 25.


4.) 06 Jun 2020 03:05:32
Not to fussed. He tends to occupy the same spaces as rashford from what I've read. Additionally ighalo provides the necessary cover in the short term.


5.) 07 Jun 2020 22:51:12
We don’t need him. We have Martial, Rashford, Ighalo and let’s not forget Sanchez on the books still when he comes back.


 

 

09 Jul 2019 19:19:03
Ed are Barcelona interested in signing v lindelof.

jred

{Ed002's Note - No, I am not aware of any approach by Barcelona to Manchester United for him but as early as tomorrow night they may be re-evaluating their centre back options. I would think that Victor Lindelof’s future at Manchester United will be something his agent will be thinking about seriously not wanting to get stuck in the abyss with what is in reality a Championship level manager and a club who are planning on a record breaking expenditure on a series of knee jerrk reactions. I am sure they would love to get him in the Barcelona squad.}


1.) 09 Jul 2019 20:17:09
@Ed002

You're about to send the site into meltdown with comments like that mate although its the hard hitting truth that Solskjaer is out of his depth and should never have been given the job. He appears clueless and looks like a kid with a smile on his face who can't believe that he's got the job while everything seems to be falling around him.

I'd be interested to know what knee jerk reactions you are mentioning Ed002? Milinkovic Savic and Maguire?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a smile - simply wind.}


2.) 09 Jul 2019 20:25:25
It was on Sky before, where the player was questioning his future at United.

What can you do?

If you keep the Muppets on high wages, with no chance of competing for a decade and spend stupid money on has beens, obviously a decent player and agent is going to agitate for a move away to a club who can compete.


3.) 09 Jul 2019 20:27:57
Ed002 - can you shed any info on the knee jerk reactions?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I have done it over and over.}


4.) 09 Jul 2019 21:05:43
I would guess it’s Harry Maquire.


5.) 09 Jul 2019 21:20:24
he is in the same boat as frank lampard.

{Ed001's Note - not really, Lampard is being surrounded by football advisors and helpers with experience.}


6.) 09 Jul 2019 20:57:34
Absolutely agree. We are embarrassed and rudderless.

Question to the Oracle. Who will replace Gonner?


7.) 09 Jul 2019 21:01:18
Or the club can realise what is in front of them, sack OGS and get someone else in urgently before the window closes. Someone we can rally round and survive this season before it goes too far.


8.) 09 Jul 2019 21:46:40
May 2020 and i bet Ole will be sacked by then. wouldn't these players look at the bigger picture and think to themselves that if the manager isn't good then he won't last long.

Interesting times ahead.


9.) 09 Jul 2019 22:10:33
Love the positivity lads. Geeesshh. Ole is our manager. He will not be leaving in the immediate future. Why not get behind our manager who has his first transfer window to sort out this mess of a squad. Ole isn't on his own here either. Do you not think players with the right attitude would like to work with Mike Phelan and Michael Carrick? The high profile manager (Van Gaal and Mourinho) hasn't worked. How about trying a club man with the right management team around him?! Getting sick of the negativity.


10.) 09 Jul 2019 22:03:36
Jesus, that's a depressing read ed002. What are this club doing?


11.) 09 Jul 2019 22:17:20
Hah bloody marvelous. you all shot me down when I said ole will be gone before Christmas. now ya sacking him before season starts.
Football fans eh, who'd have em.


12.) 09 Jul 2019 23:11:13
You mean, someone you can rally round Red Man.


13.) 10 Jul 2019 01:10:46
Lindelof is going nowhere that's for sure.
When the window shuts we will know the squad and then it will be time to assess what realistic expectations are.
Unless there are 3 or 4 more signings and the same leaving ole has no chance no manager would.
The signings will come and the exits will leave in confident of that.
Im excited for the season ahead.


14.) 10 Jul 2019 01:12:50
Wow this site is full of negativity. Who knows if ole will fail or prosper? City and pool didn’t need much n haven’t done much upto now. Leicester have signed a player they had on loan. Not many other clubs have done much as of yet. Whilst I agree that if we start the season with our current squad we will endure a tough season but to write it off before it’s started and to already decide ole is a failure is terrible. I used to love supporting Utd and visiting these forums but they make dour reading these days. The whole thing above because an agent made a throw away remark about his client attracting interest from other clubs your all in meltdown. It seems a lot of you are waiting to say told you so? God help ole with the “support” he’s getting from our “supporters”.


15.) 10 Jul 2019 06:38:23
Nou

I mean someone the players and supporters recognise can do the job and have confidence in. If the club had undertaken the due diligence at the end of the season do you really think OGS would be the manager now? If Poch or Allegri were the manager would you and I mean you have more confidence for this season and future ones? Given the number of disenfranchised players seemingly wanting to leave I sense no confidence inside or outside the club of the top structure down and belief in the appointment of OGS is likely one but not the only reason we have struggled to get players in.


16.) 10 Jul 2019 07:41:54
All ready shouting to sack the the manager.
Dear me.


17.) 09 Jul 2019 23:22:13
Good way to bring out the toxic ed002 😋.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Ithaca best stop saying anything on the is page again.}


18.) 10 Jul 2019 07:48:02
From Ed002's comments, it feels like we are about to break the bank and pay premium price for someone?
I'm guessing Maguire and SMS.


19.) 10 Jul 2019 08:41:39
The records broken Red Man.


20.) 09 Jul 2019 23:14:16
Question for Ed2 - why did the board not back a winner like Jose but are about to spend millions backing a relative novice in OGS?

{Ed002's Note - This is what I said soon after he arrived:

"It was a bad move to appoint Mourinho and a bad move for him to accept. He doesn't see MU as a progressive club that will adapt to what he thinks they need. He doesn't like being in Manchester and there are those there who still see a blue tinge surrounding him. There was a major error in taking on Ibrahimovich - it is disruptive with the kids (although one specific issue has been overcome) and he wanted to move elsewhere. Mkhitaryan is a disaster waiting to happen. Pogba's career belongs in Spain or Italy - certainly not Manchester. Four players have been told they can go in January (and that is pretty much unheard of)."}


21.) 10 Jul 2019 04:28:02
@ed002 Barcelona match United in spending big and buying players who don't fulfill expectations and are trying to offload now. Coutinho, Dembele etc.
Neymar moved to PSG and now want to come back to Barcelona like Pogba came back for United.
Messi even told once Barcelona are signing substandard players who don't deserve to play for the club.
Players want to Join Barcelona because they have Messi without Messi in two or three years Barcelona will lose its fear factor.
OGS may be a championship manager but if Lindelof wants to play under the best manager he needs to go to Liverpool or City not Spain.
Liverpool won the UCL and almost won the PL playing that good in a wildly tougher league than in spain where it was virtually a freerun to the title for Barcelona and Barcelona lost to pool in the UCL where in the first leg Match they were outplayed comfortably in Nou camp and only Messi's magic gave that lead. Barcelona is also in a downward spiral as well, only easier Spanish league and Messi's magic slow down the downward spiral a bit for time being.

{Ed002's Note - Whilst you might have the Kleenex out for Klopp - he has won nothing else for years and years. This is a ridiculous post.}


22.) 10 Jul 2019 09:20:23
Hi Ed002,

Thanks as always for your honest opinion about United and for all the priceless info you very kindly provide.

You’ve raised the issue of the manager at a club being a reason why a player might want to join/ not join a club. Obviously the biggest draw would appear to be Guardiola but I can imagine Zidane and Pochettino are attractive bosses too.

In your honest and valued opinion, would you mind suggesting a couple of other managers who players see as a reason for going to a club please?

Many thanks Wallace.

{Ed002's Note - Quique Setien, Marcello Lippi, Ricardo Gareca, Max Allegri, Jose Mourinho ....}


23.) 10 Jul 2019 10:00:17
@Ed002 Liverpool set the benchmark last season I used them and Klopp as an example. Klopp, Wenger are better managers than Mourinho who is a serial winner of almost all the trophies. Those who appreciate the quality of football klopp, Wenger plays agree with me.

{Ed002's Note - You seem to have little grasp of reality.}


24.) 10 Jul 2019 09:46:53
Wow, that was a quick reply!

Many thanks Ed002!

{Ed002's Note - It was an easy question.}


25.) 10 Jul 2019 10:32:38
Ed002, sorry if this is a silly question:
You had stated, "as early as tomorrow night they may be re-evaluating their centre back options"
Does this mean the club is moving to new CB targets because of the inflated market?

{Ed002's Note - No, it means that as early as tonight Barcelona are re-evaluating their centre back options. It is nothing to do with an inflated market.

Perhaps they will soon pop along and see if they can help Lindoff to get out of the club?}


26.) 10 Jul 2019 10:55:32
002 you seem to have some incredibly strong fishing bait for bringing the toxics out of the woodwork!

I can see it's going to be another wonderful day of reading ridiculously negative posts on here today 🙄

#OleOut.

{Ed002's Note - I will now be very much limiting telling the truth on this page then. It is not worth the grief - I am sure you will get on much better without me explaining what is going on.}


27.) 10 Jul 2019 11:00:42
Thanks Ed.
Lindelof is the last player we would want out of the club.
Many posters even suggested him as a potential captain.


28.) 10 Jul 2019 11:21:15
Woah sorry Ed, my post was aimed at the ridiculous comments on a few threads in the past 12 hours or so, not your updates!

I thought my hash tag at the end got the sarcasm across, sorry for the confusion!


29.) 10 Jul 2019 14:07:40
I'd love to see Ricardo Gareca taking charge of one of the biggest clubs in world football what he has done with Peru is nothing short of spectacular in my opinion.


30.) 10 Jul 2019 15:43:19
does every manager not start of as a nobody.

10 years ago poch was unheard of and now he is regarded as a decent manager,

klopp has even been relegated as a manager and people think he's the best.

my point is proof is in the pudding and untill ole has a fair crack at the whip i feel its abit un called for with all the slagging off he gets.


31.) 10 Jul 2019 16:15:37
Catch up on threads here.

Ed002 gets asked a question, provides an answer that triggers, then gets triggered himself and then leaves.

Hopefully there's pod before see Ed002 on the other side of the window.


32.) 10 Jul 2019 17:13:51
The answer was provocative.


33.) 10 Jul 2019 17:16:53
united road. why can't we all just have a simple debate with no slagging off.

this page is becoming petty.


34.) 10 Jul 2019 18:54:50
The page is getting petty that's the point. Posters are asking Ed's questions but then don't like their answer (opinion) and reply posti g negatively which provokes other posters and editors who volunteer to time and info to the site.

Decent debates are a rarity these days.

Props the guys who made this site a lot more fun - ngiak, RFT, Syd, Ronnie.

All toxicity, defensive, negative life imitating art.


35.) 10 Jul 2019 20:44:40
To be fair, UR, most of the questions I've read on here recently, have been put politely and respectfully. All of our questions, unless we're heavily involved in the football industry, are coming from a certain degree of ignorance. That's why we ask the Eds in the first place. I know it must be a pain in the hoop seeing the same questions, but just put different ways, over and over again. But I think a certain Ed has been particularly provocative, today. Almost as if he's engineering a way out 😁.


36.) 10 Jul 2019 16:42:19
Keeping telling the truth ed002, it really is appreciated. Ignore the idiots.


37.) 10 Jul 2019 23:37:43
Cheers Ed for answering my thread

Seems rather political at OT!


 

 

18 Dec 2018 13:55:37
Solskjaer name had been mentioned.

jred

{Ed002's Note - Regardless of him managing the reserves for a few years it would be high risk in my view. It would be an enormous step up from Molde so it is hard to be confident it would work.}


1.) 18 Dec 2018 14:11:01
It's a risk but then again itsxonly for the next 5 month .

{Ed002's Note - Why would he leave his job for such an offer then?}


2.) 18 Dec 2018 14:16:51
Any information that suggest that board is happy with Woodward and he will continue in his current role.
Would DOF takeover him later on the footballing front.


3.) 18 Dec 2018 15:05:46
Maybe get paid 3x the salary over the next 5 month and raise his profile .

{Ed002's Note - I think that is a pretty dreadful thing to say. You ceratinly don't deserve anyone decent at the club with so called supporters saying things like that.}


4.) 18 Dec 2018 15:11:31
We're not entitled to anyone and anything Jred.


5.) 18 Dec 2018 15:22:50
I think the guys already fairly well known an maybe he likes managing his hometown club.


6.) 18 Dec 2018 15:27:50
Isnt the whole OLE rumour based on the fact the Norweigan league shut down 3 weeks ago until March, the tabloids are jumping on the fact he is sitting at home watching countdown for 3 months so why not? (ignoring the fact he still has work to do with Molde in the off season)


7.) 18 Dec 2018 15:30:48
It's not Ole, his tenure at Cardiff was not great. Apparently it will be an ex-player. Steve Bruce anyone.


8.) 18 Dec 2018 15:35:53
Could Giggs job share with Wales?

{Ed002's Note - Sure, it gives him an excuse when things go wrong.}


9.) 18 Dec 2018 16:24:54
Hi Ed002, hope you’re well. You’ve previously mentioned Berta and Campos regarding a DOF role. Are there any further names being considered, possibly even left-field options?

{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with this at length before. Nothing has changed.}


10.) 18 Dec 2018 16:45:45
I have looked at previous posts now and you gave us some good suggestions. Thanks again, hope you have a quiet evening!

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


11.) 18 Dec 2018 17:09:25
Blanc can be the only serious contender surely?

{Ed002's Note - To a large extent the press release has been a self inflicted wound. I have no doubt that Laurent Blanc would take the job on a permanent basis but perhaps he feels his "hands would be tied" (I am paraphrasing) if he would simply be asked to coach until the end of the season with little or no control over players or transfers in January? If he really wants the full time job and I am sure that there is a concern that if he is constrained as an interim it may not go well as it could and could then potentially exclude him from the opportunity in the summer. For me is would be an excellent choice for the club in the long term. If it is going to be simply an interim role Solskjaer and Phelan may do a decent job but it means Manchester United don't have a good long time solution. OGS would need to leave his current job after MU negotiate with his club and, good or not (at the very least risky), could easily find themselves at a loose end in June. Perhaps the club should reconsider how they are looking to transition to a new coach and at least give a good opportunity to an interim coach to get the role on a full time basis.}


12.) 18 Dec 2018 18:26:18
United saying that we will appoint an external interim manager until the end of the season within 48 hours led me to believe that they had someone already lined up. If this isn't the case then why even mention it? As a precursor to any manager taking over that they're not permanent and don't expect any money in January or a say on which players stay or go?


13.) 18 Dec 2018 20:13:07
As someone who watched OGS throughout his time at cardiff (from his appointment, to the relegation and to the subsequent firing while in the championship), I can confirm that he was in my opinion the worst manager we have had in my time as a supporter. Defensively he was woeful, going forward we looked confused and overall we had absolutely no plan. He made selection decisions which absolutely mystified the fans, e. g. playing our best midfielder at left back (more shocking as he was slow and couldn't defend) . Not only were the results bad but his signings were out of their depth and he left the club in a position which we are only just now recovering from. If he does take the united job, it would surprise me if he makes it till May.


14.) 18 Dec 2018 22:16:01
Hi guys not posted on here for ages as I lost my username RRED7

Really don’t want to be sentimental and watch Ole ruin his legacy at our club, Someone who can cement the players and instantly have their respect would be the candidate for me and Blanc I think fits that bill. He would probably regardless of your opinion of him get the best from Pogba who if you believe all the rumours has been a catalyst of Jose getting the boot. I honestly think we will see a different Pogba now who will put a shift in.

I don’t like what he has done this season or today with his tweet but he has the potential played the right way to ignite us.


15.) 19 Dec 2018 07:11:07
Pogba should be next out the door.


16.) 19 Dec 2018 11:52:02
The problem with hiring Blanc for a team built around Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Bailly, Fred, Young, Lukaku:

goo.gl/FXPyN7


 

 

 

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01 Aug 2020 18:29:25
I think that's a red card, with out the foul Aubameyang gets the ball and shot off.

jred

1.) 01 Aug 2020 19:36:59
I think it was a red jred. But i can understand why they didn't give it.
They gave the foul when inside the box. By then rudiger was close enough.
So if they give the foul when it started its a free kick and a red card.
But they gave advantage to attacking team by deeming it a pen but by then rudiger was close enough for it not be be a red.
So free kick and red card or
Pen and yellow.


2.) 01 Aug 2020 20:04:09
Ken they have said it was down to the double jeopardy rule? I still think that its the wrong call, as that's only if the player makes a clear attempt to play the ball. Which i don't think he does.


3.) 01 Aug 2020 20:20:38
Its a weird one jred.
If they give the foul in the box then rudiger is close enough only barely mind.
So then its a yellow.
Its just 1 of those that you know its the wording of the law that's gets him away with it. Everybody knows that rudiger was not covering.
Sometimes the law is an ass.
Im glad arsenal won. I like arteta seems like a nice guy. Lovely player too.


4.) 01 Aug 2020 20:21:25
Yeah its hard to make a case for azpi going for the ball.


 

 

26 Jul 2020 08:30:44
Since October only city and the scouse have more points than us .
Today is the day to put the finishing touches to this year's league.

jred

1.) 26 Jul 2020 08:37:19
Sitting 3rd in the league jred thanks for stating the bleedin obvious.
How many teams exactly do you think should have more points than the team sitting 3rd on the table?


2.) 26 Jul 2020 08:43:14
There is no doubt in my mind that we will finish 3rd.
Sadly its the 1st time in epl history that 3rd place leaves you closer to a relegation team than top spot in points difference.
It just shows the amount of work there is to do.
But all we can do is try again next year to improve.
Its all about where you finish this will be the best finish for a couple of years and hopefully it will be the start of something better.


3.) 26 Jul 2020 08:52:18
Just proves how good liverpool and man city have been.

Pep has transformed this leauge. 90 plus points is now the benchmark.


4.) 26 Jul 2020 09:12:53
It needs highlighting, all the sack the manager posts, people seem to think we are in a relaxation fight.


5.) 26 Jul 2020 09:21:00
Relaxation fight? Its the opposite today 😂.
Relegation fight.


6.) 26 Jul 2020 09:29:27
Thanks for highlighting jred. Appreciate you thinking about others. Give my good wishes to Ole when u kiss him next.


7.) 26 Jul 2020 09:37:16
Nice typo 😂 i think it will be a relaxing lady 30 mins.
Blitz them from the start.


8.) 26 Jul 2020 10:17:54
Relaxing lady? Maybe after the game.


9.) 26 Jul 2020 11:47:50
In fact is there such a thing as a relaxing lady?


 

 

22 Jul 2020 20:00:10
well I keep getting told its all about league position, and that's us 3rd .

jred

1.) 22 Jul 2020 20:09:44
Yes but that was the best opportunity to get a foothold in top 4 going into the last game. We have left it in the hands of the other teams now to see how much they want it. Hopefully they are less bothered than we are about it.


2.) 22 Jul 2020 20:11:11
And we only need a draw in the last game. Pole position.


3.) 22 Jul 2020 20:14:28
Indeed it is, whether we finish there is another question. The last 4 or 5 games don't fill me confidence. Hopefully, we find some performance level on Sunday.


4.) 22 Jul 2020 20:14:32
Jred I take it you watched the game. Have you got an honest opinion on our last 2 games we played.


5.) 22 Jul 2020 20:15:33
It is, but that was dire.


6.) 22 Jul 2020 20:15:40
Exactly jred. Can't lie I was annoyed and shouting at the TV, wife, kids, dogs and everything else through that match but I would have bitten your hand off to be in this position 4 months ago!

It is clear and obvious we need reinforcing at the back especially left back. Williams is young and has potential but no end product as yet. Centre half needed. Maguire redeemed himself tonight and I do believe he has the potential to be a utd and England great.
Midfield we had no width and opposition know this so swamp the middle knowing we will play it wide were it will either be lost or played back. So a winger definitely needed. Up front we have a deadly strike force which have really only had a few games to gel. Greenwood is better than most out there and will only get better!
I said it before on here about Declan Rice he was everywhere tonight and hot the shot that pogba tried to catch! I still think he would be a great centre half for us!
Leicester now on Sunday to secure CL football will be a nightmare 90 mons!
GGMU!


7.) 22 Jul 2020 20:22:09
Jred - I think we should all feel absolutely livid by that performance!

What I saw tonight was a complete lack of intensity and desire. There was no appetite to press the ball and put West Ham under pressure and that kind of apathy is the reason we've been languishing outside the top 4 for most of the season.

Pogba is completely wasted playing so deep. He strolled around the park tonight like it was a testimonial. From a defensive perspective he doesn't sense danger or track runners and he can be laboured and ponderous in possession. He needs to move forward and play alongside Fernandes where he can influence the game in the right areas rather than dwelling on the ball and losing possession in his own half.

I think we've been found out already and Ole has not reacted. If you press us high we struggle to get Fernandes into the game and if you defend narrow and let our full backs have the ball they invariably give it away.

Ole must change to a 4-3-3, he must demand that his players do more and work harder when they don't have possession of the ball.

The key to success in modern football is pressing. Working hard to recover possession, you must demonstrate a hunger and desire to hunt the ball and put the other team under pressure.

I accept fatigue may play a part and things have improved lately but we still don't hunt the football like our lives depend on it. If we want to compete with Liverpool and City we've got to be near perfect and play with that hunger every game.

I think we can applaud Ole for the recent good run but we mustn't accept mediocrity and we can't let history repeat itself. Excuses of fatigue don't sit right with me. We've got virtually a fully fit squad and I don't think we've been good enough without the ball in a lot of games despite the good run.

As we improve we must demand more and what I saw tonight worried me.


8.) 22 Jul 2020 20:23:51
Leahy
Chelsea was poor awful performance, today we looked a bit flat never really got out of 3rd gear .
Teams are playing a lot of games and there has been a few performances like that last few week .
Plus there is a lot on the line at the moment that time of the season.
A game like that shows imo why grealish would be a good signing, creates space for others, can beat a man and makes yards everytime he gets the ball .
Same for sancho add him to a front 3 of rash martial and greenwood.


9.) 22 Jul 2020 20:27:06
Leonard agree on williams, looks a good prospect but a work in progress will improve when he fills out a bit . Gets a lot of stick on here but I think we have missed shaw .
Maguire played well tonight, was due a good game, had a good season imo but hasn't been great since the restart .
I like rice as well going to be a very good player.


10.) 22 Jul 2020 20:32:56
I would rather have some momentum going into the last game of the season. Performances have dropped off since the Southampton game, maybe it is fatigue after 10 games in 30 days, but we have to go to Leicester and avoid defeat, it will be squeaky bum time come the weekend.


11.) 22 Jul 2020 20:35:17
Dlib
We give away an awful goal pogba should be embarrassed.
Teams are sitting on bruno and pogba and allowing matic to have it . Playing well matic but he slows it down a lot.
They are filling the areas in front of the back 4 and keeping the back 4 really narrow . Not allowing the front 3 space a conceding area to our full backs . I think we have really missed shaw he counters that better than our other full backs .

I think fatigue and the time of the season with the pressure on is a factor as well.


12.) 22 Jul 2020 20:36:35
It will fine secure top 4 on Sunday then a bit of a break before we win the EL.
Its very obvious over the last 4 games we have tightened up. Very nervy and been less aggressive and attacking. Its a cautious approach maybe some of it sub conscious but slow and steady won't win races but it might get us 4th. We have been a cup team for the last 4 years now we need to not lose a final. We do even have to win it.


13.) 22 Jul 2020 20:41:04
Can someone explain where the manager plays pogba. Deeper than matic some tactics from the manager there.


14.) 22 Jul 2020 20:41:12
I think Grealish would have come on for Pogba this evening. Probably even started ahead of him. Either way, squad depth will define next season I think, and that’s what I have the least confidence in - not the manager or current starting XI.

Sunday is going to be nuts.


15.) 22 Jul 2020 20:44:20
DLIB I agree with you. Teams have worked us out. Cram midfield and defence and sit deep and we are too slow and no width. Then they hit us on the counter.

Pogba will never be a Pirlo player who or even a Carrick. He is just not a defensive minded player. It's another case of round pegs in square holes if he is played too far back. We need a kante type player to sit in front of the back four and Pogba has to be played forward where he can do real damage to the opposition.

We desperately need width bit I feel that with the right coaching AWB and Williams can get a lot better but we will still need a genuine wide player who can play off either wing to stretch teams.


16.) 22 Jul 2020 20:45:49
Big game on Sunday.
Game of the season.


17.) 22 Jul 2020 20:47:28
Is that the issue though Ken, going into the game with the mentaility we only have to draw usually creates nerves and increases mistakes.

Leicester go into the game knowing they need to win, will we end up sitting back the whole game letting them attack?


18.) 22 Jul 2020 20:48:39
Grim if we complain when we don't win every game then we are barking up the wrong tree.
West Ham are not in the correct league position, they are a better side than that and were playing to secure PL football next year so do not detract from who we were playing.

West ham beat Chelsea which in turn gave us the opportunity to be third in the league going into the last game!
Who, honestly, on this site would have not taken this pre lockdown!
This has been a season like no others and I do believe we can kick on next year and I agree re momentum.
We have August to look forward to for europa which will help mould and develop relationships on field.
Its not all bad people!


19.) 22 Jul 2020 20:53:15
We play 2-3-5 when when the ball is in the last third the top 4 all do s variation on it .

Thats one of the reason pogbs is playing that position, there's several others.


20.) 22 Jul 2020 20:54:35
Leonard some good points in there.


21.) 22 Jul 2020 20:58:00
Leonard, West Ham are in the correct league position, as is everybody else, trust me.


22.) 22 Jul 2020 21:11:08
I don't like Pogba so deep he should be further forward linking with Fernandes and the front 3.

If your the opposition that's exactly where you want him. Dawdling on the ball in his own half where's he's more likely to gift you possession in his own defensive third than create something further forward.

It's where Mourinho wanted to play him and he finally became exasperated by his lack of defensive responsibility and tendency to dwell on the ball and lose possession in dangerous areas.

In my opinion he's completely wasted playing so deep and there are numerous midfielders that can play that deeper role better than Pogba. Play him higher where he can influence the game, drop Fernandes deeper and let them link up so we have a dual threat.

I'm still supportive of Ole but I think we've seen in recent games an inability to make sound tactical decisions in order to influence the game from the bench.

I think if he persists with 4-2-3-1 and doesn't implement more of a pressing game we'll see more of these games and any progress we might have made will level out pretty quickly.


 

 

20 Jul 2020 11:04:48
First time we have lost a game since January and let that 1 game is evidence of everything that is wrong . The 19 game unbeating run counts for nothing .
Played Chelsea 4 times this season beat them 3 times, that counts for nothing .
By the way the awful tactics as the usually suspects have labelled them yesterday are the same tactics that beat Chelsea 3 times .
Where they awful then?


1 game against 19 . We as a team where poor yesterday, chelsea to be fair to them played really well . Its football.

jred

1.) 20 Jul 2020 11:13:30
Agreed, chelsea were a much better drilled unit than us yesterday, without the ball they were excellent.

Everyones spoken about de gea, he was awful but my bigger concern is still lindelof and maguire, beaten to the ball at the near post twice.

Henderson and axel (if he can stay fit) have got to come in next season.


2.) 20 Jul 2020 11:15:10
It's obvious and clear that we just don't have the "depth in quality".

It highlights what we need in the next window.

Still feel our first X1 is pretty good for a top 3 push, but need 3-4 top players to lift the squad as a whole.


3.) 20 Jul 2020 11:18:45
Played chelsea 4 times and beat them 3 times yet at the moment they are above us in the league and in a cup final so yes jred it counts for nothing. Absolutly nothing.

Im sure we can get the 2 draws needed to be 4th. Then we go again from the beginning of next season.


4.) 20 Jul 2020 11:22:57
Dsg
To be honest most had a poor game, awb hasn't been 100% since the restart, williams had a shocker.
Fred rash James really poor as well.
Matic has been excellent of late but give the ball away as did the whole team .

But it is 1 game against a team we have beat 3 times this season .
Its silly how people will use 1 game to prove there point,


5.) 20 Jul 2020 11:26:28
Dsg. I share your concerns at cb particularly as a pair.
But axel? A player i have high hopes for.
He has barely kicked a ball for 18 months.
He was injured for a good spell while at villa and his previous loan.
He has not played more than 3 or 4 full epl matches ever.
Im not sure he is the answer in fact nobody is because they've never seen him play at this level.
He wasn't even outstanding in the championship. He is a long long way off being our solution imo.
What makes you think he can cut it at this level? I like him but don't have that confidence in him at all yet.


6.) 20 Jul 2020 11:31:38
Until that dire back line is sorted out and another top drawer midfielder comes in I’m afraid we’ll just be going round in circles yet again. Maguire has a head like a sheriff’s badge.


7.) 20 Jul 2020 11:57:45
Jred - I've just posted exactly the same thing further down the page about the tactics. I completely agree it would appear some have forgotten how we've beaten the better teams this season and it actually all fell apart when we reverted to 4-2-3-1 after Bailly got injured.

Many argued we could only play counter attacking football and the likes of Rashford and Martial were rubbish unless they had space to run into. We didn't have enough quality to break down well organised defences they said.

Fast forward a few months, add a sobering defeat and now we've had an easy run, the players are rubbish and the manager tactically inept and out of his depth.


8.) 20 Jul 2020 11:59:56
I look forward to Wednesday night, last home game of the season and the moment when we can hold up the 19 game unbeaten trophy.


9.) 20 Jul 2020 12:13:35
Dlib
100%, line in the sand for many.


10.) 20 Jul 2020 12:31:11
I'd take top 4 now and run. Go in the transfer window and buy a proper cb. We need 3 or 4 good signings.
Or we will be the same way again next season.


11.) 20 Jul 2020 12:36:15
I think there have been a lot of fans absolutely seething during our 19 game unbeaten run as they had very little evidence to actually put the boot into our manager.

Thus the moment we actually lose a game they come spewing out in force, patting themselves on the back as obviously the one game we have lost is proof that they were right all along.

The tactics we used ultimately were the wrong ones, yet they are the same tactics that got us three wins against Chelsea and three wins against City this season. So hardly a stupid mistake.

Also as pointed out although not playing great we didn't actually concede a single goal until we were forced to change to the tactics/ shape we have used since the restart. While it's also fair to say that all of the goals we conceded were due to poor play from our players rather than tactical mistakes.

It happens, to quote the "Ole out" brigade shouldn't we be judging the manager at the end of the season rather than after a game? Isn't that what they said after every win during our unbeaten run since January. Or is it double standards 😂.


12.) 20 Jul 2020 12:58:44
So dlib ole insists he got it wrong. But you insist he didnt.
Ole says he picked the wrong team and his tactics failed but your still defending those choices and tactics even when the manager can't be bothered to.
For once i agree with ole he ballsed it up yesterday.
Its ok to say that jeez he even said it himself. 🤣🤣🤣.


13.) 20 Jul 2020 13:15:39
How many games did Emery go unbeaten when at Arsenal?


14.) 20 Jul 2020 13:16:17
That's what people do jred the form an opinion and come to their own conclusions. What's wrong with that.
Not much wrong with Chelsea midfield or defence yesterday.
You are no different to anybody else you have drawn many lines in the sand when you form your opinions. Nothing wrong with that.


15.) 20 Jul 2020 14:03:31
Dlib
Its just a case of prople judging on a gsme to game basis.
Its 1 game.


16.) 20 Jul 2020 14:23:05
Mmm
1st its people 'drawing a line in the sand'
Then its people 'judging on a game by game basis'
So which is it jred as one is a complete contradiction to the other.


17.) 20 Jul 2020 14:29:24
Ken its both, it was 1 game but people have drawn a line inthe sand . 1 defeat and the same people are rolling out the same nonsense to back up there own opinion. Ignoring the previous 19 games . We lose a game and the same people are out in force.
People show their true colours after 1 defeat .


18.) 20 Jul 2020 14:58:09
So what your saying is people are using their own reasoning to back up their opinion?
That's the correct way to go about backing an opinion.
You call their opinion and reasoning 'nonsense' because it differs from yours.
Nobody is ignoring the previous 19 games.
Ole said he got the tactics and team selection wrong.
Yet i'm reading people here saying he didn't.
In cups 1 tie lost and your out. No 2nd chances. Yesterday was an awful performance. It cost us a cup final place that's all.
I think we will limp over the line to 4th at worst.
Ole will be here next season. i don't know if that's a good thing. I suspect not.
I don't want him to be in charge as i don't believe it gives us the best opportunity for success.
Time will tell until then i will come on here which i e joy diing and ill state my opinion.
Will i be glad when ole is fired? If he has failed? Yes i will be glad but i'd much rather be wrong and watch him succeed. I just have seen no evidence that he can coach a team to win the epl or compete to win it.


19.) 20 Jul 2020 15:25:45
Ken
People yourself included a waiting for a bad performance to jump all over it ignoring anything else.
The hyperbole after 1 defeat .

{Ed047's Note - why do you constantly use the excuse of “1 defeat” are you really not seeing how much work there is to do.

It really is like me saying forget we lost to BHA after lockdown we’ve now just beaten City and Liverpool so it’s onwards and upwards!

We had a 22 game unbeaten run with Emery but you’d have had to have been off your nut to think that meant a great deal.

You don’t even have a real leader in your side let a lone a bang on the money 1st eleven and manager.

You are scrapping around for 4th as Arsenal used too, to then be embarrassed in the UCL if you make it!


20.) 20 Jul 2020 15:59:22
Very good reply ed.
But to be honest the lights are on but nobody is home mate
You would be better off going outside and banging your head off a brick wall.
As good old Jack Nicholson did. Some people can't handle the truth.


21.) 20 Jul 2020 16:00:43
Ed047 you missed the post yesterday when jred told us that ole will be a more successful manager than jose.
😂😂😂 completely delusional.

{Ed047's Note - wow, so sad I missed that one! 🤦‍♂️🤣


22.) 20 Jul 2020 16:51:39
Ken still waiting.


23.) 20 Jul 2020 17:04:19
17 Jul 2020
17 Jul 2020 08:17:06
redman over the coming years I think ole will win more than lvg and jose.

jred
I can't be sure ed but maybe his account was hacked by a loony🤣.


24.) 20 Jul 2020 17:16:03
Ken

Lol are you ed 47 because you have posted a reply but forgot to post my question asking asking you to 0ost it 😂😂😂

I put over the coming years, and I think he will, lvg has retired and jose is about done .

Jose lvg will won nothing and very much doubt jose will . So is that ken47

Not like you have put below more than fergy.

{Ed047's Note - sadly ken is far better looking and younger than me jred, so no we are not one and the same.

But hey if that fits your agenda and all that! 🤣😉


25.) 20 Jul 2020 17:24:11
ed you haven't posted the post I sent and yet ken has replied to it.

{Ed002's Note - Amazing stuff then - maybe he is all knowing?}


26.) 20 Jul 2020 17:27:08
Waiting for what jred? Sorry i didn't see a question?


27.) 20 Jul 2020 17:31:42
Ken
😂😂😂bit late you already answered if .
Messed up, is their a reason my new post didn't get posted at top of the page.


28.) 20 Jul 2020 17:35:30
Ken

Delusional wasn't it! Ole will win more than Jose and LVG! (Someone needs to know Norwegian trophies don’t count)

There are some of us who maintain the same position whether we win, draw or lose because we can see what Ole is, which is a very nice man, trying very hard to be someone he admires. Trying to do things that worked 2 decades or more ago, by all accounts having to ring regularly for advice from his hero, I mean has he even taken the managers car park space yet? Ole knows what good looked like, but that doesn’t mean it will work again, the right attitude only goes so far, also that model worked so well almost solely because of the monumental driving character of greatness that SAF was. Ole is not that.

I for one have said the same whatever the score. Yesterday I was embarrassed, I don’t remember a worse capitulation in a semi final and remember everything from 76. If Ole has admitted he got it wrong, good, because it was very obvious he did. However, United want to play in big games, and given the lack of silverware in the last 3 years it was a perfect opportunity to get to a final, show that Ole could guide us to something. Instead of which he outthought himself, let alone Chelsea, he has embarrassed the club around the world with that yesterday.

All people who love Ole, will say he will learn. Learn, the club are paying a fortune for someone to learn on the job, someone who flunked the audition yesterday. That is the point, the elephant in the room, he flunked it and now we go for Arsenals fourth place trophy.

I am furious about yesterday because our manager turned his nose up at a cup, for the fourth place trophy. Not good enough, whether we had an unbeaten run or not.


29.) 20 Jul 2020 17:40:16
Im really confused? 😂.


30.) 20 Jul 2020 18:02:50
I sent a question in 47 didn't post it you answered it 🤔.


31.) 20 Jul 2020 18:10:18
Great post redman
Surrender and capitulation by a manager that people tell me is restoring the values of the club.
He is doing well in some areas but yesterday was much anti united than anything i saw under lvg or jose. It stunk from top top bottom. Its not the 1st time either this has happened with the pressure on.


 

 

19 Jul 2020 10:58:10
If Leicester get beat by 2 goals today we go 4th . Will that mean ole is doing a better job?

jred

1.) 19 Jul 2020 11:08:38
I like your posts and agree with a lot of your points jred but you don’t help yourself with the point scoring and sarcasm, just learn to let things go mate.

{Ed047's Note - Jesus, I literally choked on my coffee! 🤣😉


2.) 19 Jul 2020 11:21:31
Gds
It a valid point, I honestly don't understand the, we finish top 4 ole has done good, we don't he hasn't .
I certainly don't get, we sack a manager based other teams results over the next 2 games.

I'm not being sarcastic, its a genuine question because as far as I can make out that's some peoples opinion .


3.) 19 Jul 2020 11:26:01
If Leicester get beat by 2 goals their +31 good becomes +29 and they’re still in 4th!


4.) 19 Jul 2020 11:31:20
Halesini
My mistake resd the wrong table, it should be get beat by 4.


5.) 19 Jul 2020 11:59:21
Your point is valid, but it also misses completely the fact that you do indeed rate a manager relative to the completion available for his job. So if other managers are managing to get more out of their squad, then Ole's relatively worse at his job than they are.

If he ends this season with no silverware and no champions league, given that we've been in a position relatively late in the season where our success is within our own hands, then it really is a failure.

So yes, if we mess up and still make it, that is better than the alternative of not having it within our grasp, playing well and not making it. Because his job is to do better than the rest, not just to do well.


6.) 19 Jul 2020 12:27:52
Jred, you were championing Ole when we were on the worst run of results, playing the worst football with a manager that had a worst win percentage of any Man Utd manager in 80 years. We get it, you think he's the second coming.

The performances have improves without a doubt, but this will be his third sustained run of great results. But after those last two runs we reverted back to some truly awful football.

The man has to be able to meet targets. Playing decent football is only a part of it. It is simply in our hands. The reason there are a lot of people who aren't happy is because there are a lot of arguments in favour of both sides. I have always said that he needs to meet our targets.

Did LvG missing out on top 4 by one point and winning the F. A cup save him? It wasn't good enough then and it's not good enough now. Ole has had 18 months. The football has only improved since Bruno arrived. Before that it was simply awful. Who's to say what United will turn up next season. If he gets top 4 he is deserving to stay. If he doesn't then he should be shown the door.

I think we will get top 4. And I also think if we don't we'll stick with the manager too. But me and a lot of other posters aren't happy with decent football and 5th even if you are.


7.) 19 Jul 2020 12:36:48
Ole can only be judged on what the team do over 38 league games so he will not be judged on Chelsea or Leicester results over the next week.
He will be judged on where he finishes and possibly to give some context on how they finish.
If you discount the 1st 12 games of the season from then until now we are 3rd, still a distant 3rd but even so, the powers that be, may decide even if he fails to finish in top 4 that he has improved things enough over the 2nd half of the season to warrant another season. On the other hand. A few think if we blow the opportunity in the league for a cl spot and don't win a cup then he should be fired. I don't think he will be but if he fails to get cl football next season he has failed to hit the basic minimum requirement in terms of results so they might let him go.
But if he achieves it then that's the minimum improvement in results needed so he should be given a bit more time.
Ive no doubt they will achieve a cl spot.
Ole will be here next season and will have the opportunity to continue his project. Best of luck to him.


8.) 19 Jul 2020 13:15:43
Mumbles
See its silly childish comments like
"  We get it, you think he's the second coming " that for me spoils the site, make it difficult to have a proper discussion.

I don't think I have ever said such a thing .
I did say I like the direction ole and the club have taken and could see and understand what he was trying to do . I've felt he and the team where moving in the right direction even when results where not great .
I now think most people can see that was the case.
If Leicester get beat by 4 and we go 4th today does that mean ole is doing a better job than he was yesterday?

Lvg didn't miss out on top 4 by 1 point he finished on the same points as city in fourth . But lvg has said the decision was taken to sack him months before, due to a perceived lack of entertaining football. We had stagnated .
Jose was sacked mid season, not because we didn't finish 4th .
He also wasn't sacked when he finished 6th in his first season.

Ken
Exactly he will be judged on what he does over the season, and there is loads of variables to consider not just what happens in 2 games .
We have a change in personal, change in style a lot of work it takes time .
I will be amazed if ole is sacked for not finishing 4th .

Next season that might be different, he will need to continue to improve and take the tesm forward.
Thats obvious.


9.) 19 Jul 2020 13:26:03
Cl qualification winning the el saved jose in his 1st season.


10.) 19 Jul 2020 13:27:59
Jose finished 6th in his first season, should we of sacked him?


11.) 19 Jul 2020 13:28:50
Or comments to red man like we know its your hearts desire to see ole sacked.


12.) 19 Jul 2020 13:33:31
Ken so if he had got beat in the final he would of been sacked?


13.) 19 Jul 2020 13:40:36
ken yer pretty much pal.


14.) 19 Jul 2020 13:45:27
I don't know that jred and if I don't, then even you can be arrogant enough to claim you know for sure either.

But the 2 other mangers that failed before him to get cl were sacked.

Its hard to know for sure.


15.) 19 Jul 2020 14:03:24
Ken
Arrogant? No need ken .
Lvg has said why he was sacked so did the ed .
I don't think jose would of got sacked in his first season for finishing 6th but I guess we will never know.
But he did finish 6th and never got sacked so it clearly wasn't a case of top 4 or sacked .


16.) 19 Jul 2020 14:24:23
Cl qualification appears to be the benchmark.


17.) 19 Jul 2020 15:23:30
Jred, If that comment is upsetting you then the internet isn't for you. Considering you were insulting me and Red Man on the live chat a few games ago.

If Leicester lose by 4 goals today and we move 4th doesn't make Ole a better manager because I'm not judging him based on 36 games. He'll be judged fairly after 38 games.

The mental gymnastics and hypothetical scenarios you're talking about to prove a point are astounding.


18.) 19 Jul 2020 17:01:13
Its not that hypothetical is it?


 

 

 

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07 Aug 2020 21:03:06
Shaw broke his leg, then had 2 difficult seasons under jose .
Since ole has come in he played 40 games last season picking up jnited player of thd year .
And has had another good season this year playing 33 games.
The lad only turned 25 a couple of week ago he will be fine.

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07 Aug 2020 16:10:26
Shappy
I would sign a rw that would be 4 players for 3 positions .
Your talking about having 4 players for 2 positions .

Plus defenders don't really get rotated as much .

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07 Aug 2020 13:05:55
shappy your better players play if fit 9 times out of 10 .
Awb played 36 league games this season
Trent 38
Robertson 36 .

If we sign a lb to cover shaw where does that leave, williams TFM and maybe even laird or dalot.

jred

 

 

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07 Aug 2020 11:42:28
If we get a left footed fb where does that leave williams?
Cover for AWB? Who is only 22 if fit plays and played 35 out of 38 league games this season .

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05 Aug 2020 17:44:33
100 mil for sancho will turn out to be a good deal, the lads still only 20 and will be worth a lot more in the years to come .
Havertz will go for in the region of 90 Mill and no one will bat an eyelid .
Felix went for 110 again no big issues.

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Juve went for pirlo 🤔.

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07 Aug 2020 16:12:32
Shan
Your not keeping anyone on their toes.

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07 Aug 2020 14:09:29
Shan you have moved effortlessly from every post being rashford is rubbish and needs sold to ole is rubbish needs sacked .

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Its to many changes, you are changing half your outfield players .

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07 Aug 2020 07:51:16
should also say criticising is fine but it needs to be justified, some of the criticism on herr is a joke.

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