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01 Jul 2019 22:01:51
Hi ed002.
I know you don't like providing updates but thought i'd ask if any clubs are showing interest in some of the players that we would like to move on this summer?
Darmian rojo sanchez tfm in particular?
Secondly do you think inter will be able to make an acceptable offer for lukaku and get a deal done?

ken

{Ed002's Note - Darmian could end up at Inter but he is down the list. Rojo is limited in which countries he can move to which means he will be used in horse trading if they can. Nothing has changed with Sanchez.}


1.) 02 Jul 2019 20:01:56
Ed002 thank you.
To be fair you did say they would bee hard to shift.
Did you miss the second question or just choose to ignore it hooing i'd take the hint? 😁.

{Ed002's Note - Inter would like to include players.}


2.) 03 Jul 2019 22:36:32
Cheers. Pity its the wrong players. Probably be three case with pogba do i'd imagine with juve and real Madrid looking to move some players on.


 

 

01 Jun 2019 10:00:55
I was told this morning by the same person that told me about lukaku and lindelof before they signed that fernandes from SL will be joining us.
He has also told me that he is not the only expected arrival from Portugal.
He has said that the club have already agreed 2 signings and are looking at a minimum of 5 players with 2 agreed and 2 very close.
This guy is working in the legal sector and has never once given me inaccurate info and has worked with the club for / with the last 8 years.
I think the last time i posted on his info was the signing of herrera which he says was very complicated.
Issues remain with being unable to move some unwanted players on.

ken

{Ed004's Note - If we are signing 5 players hopefully be a rb cb cdm cm and attacker. Hopefully, you are right Ken}


1.) 01 Jun 2019 10:38:01
Please let this be true Ken.


2.) 01 Jun 2019 10:43:18
Ken

Thanks, I wonder if Fernandes being purchased would prevent any possibility of interest in James Maddison. If so, it’s a pity as Maddison looks to have good potential and I understand he is also a United fan which is an added bonus in the motivation stakes. I haven’t seen Fernandes but is he the player we need when our Manager seemed to be heading in a different direction? Yes stats are useful but don’t tell the whole picture and seem to recall you are more in touch with Portuguese football so interested in your opinion.


3.) 01 Jun 2019 10:57:09
Interesting Ken, If I was to guess the second player from Portugal I would say Ruben Dias of Benfica is most likely.

Red Man, that might be the case. I'm not sure Maddison has ever been high on the clubs wanted list. Which is a real shame as he could be an excellent signing for us.

Although if Ole wanted to introduce his 4222 style system than Gary Neville said he was keen on while taking his badges then we could sign sign BOTH Fernandes and Maddison and play them both in the advanced midfield two behind the strikers. That would be mouth watering and we would provide hat fulls of chances for our strikers.


4.) 01 Jun 2019 11:12:32
Any info on the other players Ken?

{Ed004's Note - Id guess the 2nd player is Felix. Both players have been heavily linked and Ed2 has mentioned our interest in both}


5.) 01 Jun 2019 10:57:09
Interesting Ken, If I was to guess the second player from Portugal I would say Ruben Dias of Benfica is most likely.

Red Man, that might be the case. I'm not sure Maddison has ever been high on the clubs wanted list. Which is a real shame as he could be an excellent signing for us.

Although if Ole wanted to introduce his 4222 style system than Gary Neville said he was keen on while taking his badges then we could sign sign BOTH Fernandes and Maddison and play them both in the advanced midfield two behind the strikers. That would be mouth watering and we would provide hat fulls of chances for our strikers.


6.) 01 Jun 2019 11:36:22
Thanks for passing on the info Ken. Must say that is very exciting news! Hope it’s true.


7.) 01 Jun 2019 12:07:06
He was sure on fernandes and i know not to ask him names as tells me as much as he can. He often has no idea of what's going on unless he has some involvement in a professional capacity.
No idea on what positions or on who the 2nd player targeted from Portugal is. But its not as far down the line as fernandes obviously
He did say that there was efforts Being made to move players on again no names.
This guy is not even a big football fan and he supports Charlton😱.


8.) 01 Jun 2019 12:49:50
I'd say one of the two already agreed is James. No idea on the other or the second from Portugal.

Maddison is a good player but why would Leicester sell their best player.


9.) 01 Jun 2019 12:56:13
So hypothetically if the club is looking to bring in 5 players and we know the areas of concern (rb, cb, dm, cam, RW) this could mean.
James - RW
Fernandes - CAM
Diaz - CB
That leaves rb and dm
Rice and AWB anyone?


10.) 01 Jun 2019 14:51:36
If Fernandes comes in, would that mean Pogba is closer to leaving?


11.) 01 Jun 2019 15:01:23
Rumour of the window so far! Like it Ken.

That would be a cracking summer of business Perth.
Still feel we need a quality striker.


12.) 01 Jun 2019 15:21:05
Rave, it would be a huge step in the right direction in terms of reducing the squad age, bringing in more British talent and fixing some of our issues. But we know it can’t all be done in one window as has been discussed. I think we would need another CM and possibly a striker as you say in the January window or next summer.


13.) 01 Jun 2019 16:35:39
Meunier and one of Saul or Longstaff depending on if Pogba leaves.


14.) 01 Jun 2019 17:43:57
Thanks for sharing Ken.


15.) 01 Jun 2019 11:39:30
Not sure about the logic of signing both felix and fernandes in terms of how they both fit into one team. Both seem to prefer playing behind a main striker in a no 10/ second striker role.

Fernandes would be a good buy and important to get him in early as we all know the pogba madrid links will drag on through the summer. So good to get a potential replacement before all that if true.


16.) 01 Jun 2019 14:18:49
Hope you are right Ken, be a good signing Bruno Fernandes and hope you are right Ed on Joao Felix.
Wan Bissaka
de Ligt
Fernandes
Felix
James

That’s be a great summer.


17.) 01 Jun 2019 19:29:45
Joao Felix would be a terrific signing.
Front 3 of Rashford, James and Felix would be extreme pace.
With Bruno Fernandes behind them.
Mouth watering on paper.


18.) 01 Jun 2019 22:16:23
Great stuff Ken. Love when someone pulls out a rumour like that.


19.) 01 Jun 2019 22:54:04
Ken, I will track you down if this is bull 😁.


20.) 02 Jun 2019 05:41:44
I don’t see us getting Fernandes and Felix for the reasons you say DSG and that we have stated we are looking for young British talent. So buying Meunier, Fernandes, Felix, De Ligt contradicts that statement UNLESS we buy some good cheap prospects as well (Collins, Longstaff, R. James etc) to blood into the team over the next couple of years.
I am also confident that like a young Ronaldo, Felix could live on the RW for now allowing Fernandes to control/ support the attack from a central position.
In fact Rashford/ Martial/ Greenwood centrally with D James and Felix switching flanks regularly with Fernandes in support could be very dynamic and the sort of attack Ole has talked about creating.


21.) 02 Jun 2019 06:42:16
Rashford felix James?
Hardly mouthwatering.


22.) 02 Jun 2019 09:30:45
Cheers Ken, your post sort of refreshed this page.


23.) 02 Jun 2019 10:30:10
Love this, Ken. I proper rumour from who sounds like a reliable source.

I’d be happy with what most are suggesting however, I honestly think we need 2 CBs, one with significant experience. The club’s intentions to restructure the team around youth is inspiring, but we still need a leader in this team.


24.) 02 Jun 2019 12:58:28
@Shappy

What about Felix and Fernandes in a 4222? Lingard, Gomes as backups?


25.) 02 Jun 2019 13:01:10
Stevie ill come quietly😂.


26.) 02 Jun 2019 13:21:11
Best bit of info I've seen on here in ages Ken.

Nice one 👍.


27.) 02 Jun 2019 13:24:36
Maybe not to you 83.


28.) 02 Jun 2019 15:10:04
if fernandes is coming here, he isn't really doing the best pr job right now. Fanboy comments on pep, drooling over liverpool. Not exactly the smartest play for a guy who might sign for utd.


29.) 02 Jun 2019 15:22:42
I read the same comments, I think it’s typical gernalist spin. What he said was he prefers Liverpool’s style of play. Dynamic, fast paced, exciting. As opposed to City’s possession, slow build up style.
This is not dissimilar to what Ole has spoken about how he wants united to play.
This may be one reason he chooses United over City.


30.) 02 Jun 2019 17:32:39
Thanks Ken for sharing this information.

Has given me a much needed Utd lift!


31.) 03 Jun 2019 10:42:13
Nice one KEN. Let us know if you get anything else.

Fernandes, Felix from Portugal. AWB for RB. Ndombele for DM/ CM along side Pogba with Fernandes in front. AND a CB.

Would be a fantastic summer.


 

 

26 Apr 2019 18:06:06
Jose might end up at inter and come in for lukaku🤗.

ken

1.) 27 Apr 2019 11:39:42
I doubt that considering he doesn't like lukaku.


2.) 27 Apr 2019 15:11:54
Crazy he bought him then? 🤔🤔.


3.) 27 Apr 2019 18:08:00
Did he though?


4.) 27 Apr 2019 19:55:18
Cryptic hour on the Man Utd rumours page.


 

 

25 Apr 2019 00:24:54
Whatever our opinions on players ole and the club appear to be committed to rash and martial. So how does he get the best out of them. next season.
Should they both be competing for the no9 position so its a case of one or the other?
Could we see them play as a pair?

ken

1.) 25 Apr 2019 01:24:55
Keep Rashford, sell Martial, who is lazy and sulks whenever he or the team faces adversity.


2.) 25 Apr 2019 05:46:50
How do we get the best out of them? Playing them as a pair would be nice to see and hopefully they could develop a partnership.

Being less cowardly on the ball would help as well, we should be able to introduce more sophisticated patterns of play rather than just hoofing it long or knocking it down the channel. Its the easy way out and top players are usually much more brave on the ball.

Also if we can get someone to play on the right or even at least just stand on the right that is some sort of threat as a professional football player then that should draw some focus away from that left hand side and create more space for those two.


3.) 25 Apr 2019 06:14:34
One of the problems last night was zero support from midfield, especially the first half. Every time Rashford or Lingard had the ball they only had each other to pass to making our play very predictable. We need better, hard working players. Roll on summer.


4.) 25 Apr 2019 07:27:24
I don’t think either are good enough to lead the line and both should be competing for the left hand side role.


5.) 25 Apr 2019 07:59:25
The other problem yesterday was that one of them was being selfish. Even the commentators saw it and spoke out when there was a more deadly pass on in the first half but the striker turned towards the right and subsequently killed the move. Should have seen the look in the other ones face, supposedly they are best friends off field. Some need to understand that shooting from a 100 yards out will not get you goals every time, it happens once in a 100 chances.


6.) 25 Apr 2019 08:41:11
Sell Lukaku and bring in Piatek or Jovic. Give Martial another year and see how he performs.


7.) 25 Apr 2019 09:44:00
I personally believe that if we sell Pogba, this will have a big impact on certain players, in particular Martial, Rashford and Lingard.

I get the impression that Pogba is the big personality who people follow and despite his obvious talents, I just don't think he has the right attitude.

If Pogba is sold, I can see Martial, Rashford and Lingard becoming more focused and improving, in particular Martial.


8.) 25 Apr 2019 10:01:16
Personally I like the idea of playing a 4312/ 3412 with split strikers and a floating No.10. We don't have any wingers, while we have several strikers and No.10's.

That way we can have Martial, Rashford, Lukaku and Greenwood as our four striker options.

Lingard, Andreas Pereira and Angel Gomes as No.10's. Plus maybe one other signed in the summer. Bruno Fernandes maybe.

Then sell Pogba and bring in two midfielders, NDombele being one.


9.) 25 Apr 2019 10:17:16
agree shappy. bruno with a midfield of ndombele and say neves would be brilliant.


10.) 25 Apr 2019 11:23:48
Although Martial has frustrated the s**t out of me, I would still like to see him given a run as striker, Rash has had plenty of games there but Martial has barely had a chance as striker. I do believe he is our best finisher.


11.) 25 Apr 2019 11:49:38
Although Martial is a good finisher, he doesn't offer enough off the ball movement.
I would like to see a midfield of Bruno, Saul and Declan Rice.


12.) 25 Apr 2019 12:38:23
I'd go either 352 or 4312 as our wide options are horrific. But 2 upfront could get the best out of martial and maybe even Sanchez.


13.) 25 Apr 2019 14:40:27
What do people see in Martial I don't someone please tell me its frustrating the (swear word) out of me. Why does Martial get the mention that he deserves a run in the side as a number 9 or a pair with someone else, why?

I can list many many reasons why he shouldn't been given a run.
Yes let's give a free run a test maybe to see how it goes and if it doesn't work out we have out answer don't we. All the while whilst that free test doesn't work out we are losing games and points so the little test can be conducted.
All the while when he does actually play he can't be bothered and his effort is ZERO. Yes he deserves a run in the side doesn't he?


14.) 25 Apr 2019 14:53:46
Martial gets away with it because he hasn't been given a run in the strikers position.

As soon as he gets the run and if he doesn't perforn then he will get criticised.

I do have my doubts over his attitude as he looks like one of them players that cries a lot if nothing goes right for him.


15.) 25 Apr 2019 15:41:03
I don't know maybe because he is the best finisher at the club. Yes he doesn't work hard enough. But that is much less of a problem for a striker than a winger.

The biggest problem we have had over the last month is not finishing the chances we have made. I would argue that had Martial had the same chances he would have scored at least 70% of them.

That's not to say Martial is the answer to all our problems. Just that is might not hurt to give our best finisher a chance as a striker during a tough spell where we can't seem to finish our chances.


16.) 25 Apr 2019 15:43:36
Simple answer FZZ. Martial is more talented and a more natural striker with that instinct for goal then the person currently leading the line. For me, Lukaku should lead the line, if not, then Martial. But the problem is that he can't be bothered to play. His head seems elsewhere and it has been since his 9 was given to Zlatan. Never seen such a reaction to a jersey being changed.


17.) 25 Apr 2019 16:40:51
I dunno David Mellors was funny.


18.) 25 Apr 2019 17:40:55
What a load of Tosh UA, no i am not having what you said or agree with. He isn't the best finisher, he's not a best at anything apart from looking like he hates playing football.


19.) 25 Apr 2019 18:30:27
Play Herrera every game this season and the team will click.


20.) 25 Apr 2019 19:15:51
I like Shappy's idea of the 3-4-1-2. I admit that Martial does have the talent and could thrive if he played with Rashford. Would Lukaku want to stay as 3rd choice? Not sure. This setup would allow Greenwood to get more minutes as well.

Lingard would be a natural in the #10 position. It would take advantage of his greatest quality, which is movement off the ball. But I think we need someone more explosive and dangerous on the ball. Someone that can run with the ball and ride some tackles. Bruno Fernandes might fit very well there.


21.) 25 Apr 2019 22:53:10
Martial frustrates me so much.
I don't like watching him play and i would hate to play with him.
But he is a good finisher.
I would like to see him given the chance up front for an extended run as a striker. To see if he can do it. Particularly as nobody else is scoring when there.
2 up front would possibly suit all our strikers
None have been prolific while playing as the sole striker.
But with no defence and little creativity from midfield its tough to play 2 up top.


22.) 25 Apr 2019 23:44:45
He hasn't done anything to deserve a run up front Ken.

Maybe if he actually tried to look bothered i wouldn't be against it but until he starts putting some effort in he doesn't deserve LB in the changing rooms.


 

 

31 Mar 2019 09:48:54
Fresh its anyones guess at this stage.
I would imagine there are question marks over the following
Darmian valencia rojo mata herrera jones sanchez bailly ddg and pogba.
Of course all won't go although in reality i would not be over concerned about any leaving except pogba and ddg.
Wages are the issue so in order to buy we need to get some wages off the books naturally.
Selling some of the above is an issue because of their inflated wages so its not as simple as it looks.
Mata and herrera can possibly go on free transfers. Herrera may stay but its a 30m commitment from the club for a squad player approaching 30 doesn't seem like a good call to me mata likewise.
Ddg can't even command a top fee now going into the last year of his contract.
Valencia is being released darmian and rojo hold little value and we will have to pay sanchez off.

ken

1.) 31 Mar 2019 15:11:21
I don't think bailly or jones will leave and i agree don't want to see dsg and pogba leave.

I think there is something in rumours that ole is happy with the options at cb whether people like it or not.

Could see two signings at CM and none at the back.


2.) 31 Mar 2019 21:48:39
If he is happy with the CB options he must still think he is managing Molde.


3.) 31 Mar 2019 22:28:08
Frankly with our current club structure and management we won't be able to compete with Real Madrid and Bayern when it comes to recruiting the best new players. Zidane will have made sure he can decide who they sign and Bayern are very well run and have a big budget. We are going to struggle to hold on to our best two players in DE Gea and Pogba and we have Sanchez to sort out room. Ole has his work cut out.


4.) 01 Apr 2019 10:43:01
With our current wage structure, basically maxed out, we are backed into a corner anyway.

We need to get rid of overpaid players and probably focus on cost efficient signings (wage wise) compared to Kroos or Bale etc.

We simply can’t afford to trade Pogba for Kroos and Bale, as we don’t have the wiggle room to pay the wages needed.


5.) 01 Apr 2019 13:26:56
We could do without Bale and Kroos anyway. Bale would play 25 games a season and command a silly wage. Kroos doesn't work hard enough and I can see him struggling in the Prem. He's excellent on the ball but doesn't fit Ole's desire of being one of the most hard-working teams in the league.

I hope the days of Blockbuster signings are over and we go back to signing younger players with desire to reach the very top.


 

 

 

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17 Jul 2019 14:01:18
Well ed002 i know your travelling so perhaps you will get to this when you see it.
You have said you expect pogba to leave although united may foolishly price him out of a move.
OSG obviously has a good relationship with the player do you think that there is a possibility that he might convince pogba to stay and sign a new contract?
Or do you see pogba sticking to his guns and forcing his move if madrid come up with a suitable offer.?

ken

{Ed002's Note - Pogba wants to leave. United can block that if they want - a remarkably stupid plan. I have no way of knowing if what plan the club has.}


1.) 17 Jul 2019 15:07:25
I know its not exactly popular on here to do anything but criticise the decision makers at the club but i do have sympathy with them on pogba.

If no club is willing to pay their valuation for the player and they don't want to get in complicated exchange deals, would people be happy if they took a lower compromised fee in order to resolve this situation?

As things stand, pogba is the best outfield player at the club as well as the most marketable player for the clubs commercial department. Apart from an ill advised comment in asia, he hasn't been as toxic an influence on pre season training as most assumed he would be.


2.) 17 Jul 2019 15:16:52
Dsg
On the money imo.


3.) 17 Jul 2019 15:28:24
At least he turned up 😁.


4.) 17 Jul 2019 15:31:35
That's the issue for me DSG. If he wants out he will eventually say or do something that will spark up a hornets nest no doubt he will be provoked. If he does stay he needs better players around him to get the best out of him. Players that can take advantage of his strengths and cover his weaknesses.


5.) 17 Jul 2019 15:33:55
I don’t have any sympathy.

We paid a ridiculously high fee for a player who joined us for the money, and would have went elsewhere if he had options.

The last manager explicitly told the board that the player was a key cause of disharmony in the dressing room. For the past two summers the player has been trying to engineer a move away, even saying it publicly. The club could actually get most or even all of what we paid for him back, but have placed a stupid price tag on him that no club will meet.

What is there to gain from keeping him, or looking for a fee that no one will offer?

We will be left with an already disruptive player that obviously doesn’t want to be at the club, whose value will only decrease.

If the club had any sense they would be working with Real and Juve to reach a compromise that let's everybody just move on.


6.) 17 Jul 2019 15:45:28
Agree DSG. If Pogba stays, I believe he will have a good season.
Mainly because we have injected some serious pace already to the squad.
Pogba can play those precise long passes with willing runners such as AWB, Rash, Greenwood, Shaw, James.

However, iff he leaves, replace him with either Saul Niguez (if attainable) or SMS.


7.) 17 Jul 2019 15:47:44
pogba and his agent especially should have been professional on going about leaving,

why the need to come out publicly the pair of them i get he wants to leave but don't act petty and try force the club to sell him we don't have to sell him

at the end of the day pogba has a contract so unless someone meets the valuation he needs to honor the paper he signed.

if someone wants to buy him then pay up otherwise he has to be a man and get his head down and play for the club he is contracted to.

{Ed002's Note - In what way were they not professional. The club has known for a year? I have explained it for the past year. You have an extremely naive view about the transfer process. You want sanchez to stay and honor his contract sucking vast sums of money out of the club, potentially blocking the recruitment of others? It is like some sort of horrible joke this sustained lack of understanding about the club and the business.}


8.) 17 Jul 2019 18:26:24
Pogba wants out. Sell him. They've know for ages.


9.) 17 Jul 2019 18:07:54
what if the offers are far below the value of pogba then surely we have no choice but to block the move? I don’t see it as the club blocking him from leaving it’s more that there is no club at the moment that could afford to buy him with current outlays they have made (Madrid) or do you think we should just get rid at any cost?


10.) 17 Jul 2019 19:17:26
I agree Twenty. We have been so bad with not only transfers in but transfers out in the past with clubs getting very good deals from us, I like the stance the club are taking. If a club make an offer that is acceptable then there is business to be done. It sets the tone moving forward in the transfer windows. Fed up of getting mugged of by clubs buying from us and selling to us.

{Ed002's Note - Of course it is not like that. Think more headless jerks.}


11.) 17 Jul 2019 20:28:08
Yeah let's sell the player for cheap because he doesn't want to be here.


Makes sense.

{Ed002's Note - Who has sugested this. The post simply re-inforces the point that you have little (or mor probably) no grasp at all about how tranfers work, and in particular how Manchester United works. Zippo.}


 

 

08 Jul 2019 21:34:41
Thanks ed 002 that figures.
What do you think the likely outcome for pogba will be? A return to juve or do you think he will end up at madrid?
Indeed do you think either club can put the finances in place too conclude a deal?
Both clubs much like our own need to move players on that are on big contracts and at best inconsistent form.

If united are insisting on cash only deal involving no players they may not come up with the funds required and move on to the likes of erikson and sms.
Either way i hope its resolved soon. If all 3 clubs need to sell before they buy we could be left waiting and miss out on our targets. With the numbers involved these negotiations are not for the faint hearted😂.

ken

{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer “likely” questions Ke.%}


1.) 09 Jul 2019 08:12:58
Neither can afford him.
That why all of the rumours have been about player + cash deals.


 

 

08 Jul 2019 18:24:34
Hi ed002.
Sms appears to be back on our radar.
I think you said juve and psg were also looking to buy him.
In the case of juve is that as an alternative to pogba or as well as pogba if they manage to sign pogba?

Psg obviously want him to replace raibot.
Thanks.

ken

{Ed002's Note - It is an alternative.}


1.) 09 Jul 2019 05:29:51
Juventus already have too many central midfielders.
Ramsey, Rabiot, Khedira, Bentancur, Emre Can, Pjanic, Matuidi.
Looks like they need to sell atleast 2 to accomodate Pogba or SMS.


 

 

28 Jun 2019 19:13:06
This summer would have seen the end of David moyes original contract. Ed033 can you run a poll please?
Do people think we would be in a better position as a team and club if moyes had been allowed see his contact out than we are now after giggs lvg jose ole and the best part of 1 billion spent on players agents fees and coaches?

ken

{Ed033's Note -


David Moyes Poll


1.) 28 Jun 2019 20:36:20
That's where the problems started.


The curse is over in the next few days


Titles winners next season



😳.


2.) 28 Jun 2019 21:41:03
Well by now he'd have got us into the playoffs.

The curse should be lifted.


3.) 28 Jun 2019 21:13:28
Thanks ed033.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks


4.) 29 Jun 2019 08:35:55
It's am I interesting question but Moyes's tenure was poor. There were flashes but the longer the season went on the worse it got. I think he was out of his depth and his career post United shows that Everton may well end up being his high point. A ridiculous appointment for such a major club, so many incredible Managers out there and we picked someone who had never won a trophy and had no European experience. If he had stayed I think we would have seen a car crash in the second season.


5.) 29 Jun 2019 09:06:37
I blame the lack of quality as the main reason for his downfall.
The squad was left with aging players like Vidic, Evra, Rio, Fletcher, Carrick, Giggs.
And add to that average players like Anderson, Jones, Smalling, Cleverly, Nani, Buttner, Fabio, Bebe, Welbeck etc, .
The squad needed a major surgery.
I recollect only RVP and Mata as the quality players left during his tenure.


 

 

28 Jun 2019 17:43:39
Is it true that Manchester United have not sold at a profit any player that we bought since summer 2009?
I read that earlier and we were the only club in the epl to have that record.
I find that quite amazing if its true.

ken

1.) 28 Jun 2019 18:02:06
I thought Blind was sold for a profit?


2.) 28 Jun 2019 18:08:19
That probably is true thinking of it. Only Ronaldo we have made a profit on I believe.


3.) 28 Jun 2019 18:29:37
Depay and schneiderlin possibly.


4.) 28 Jun 2019 18:54:45
Depay morgan blind all sold for less than we paid.


5.) 28 Jun 2019 18:54:49
Why does that matter?

There was a time when we sold players after they’d peaked.

We aren’t a club that builds up players only to sell them on. There’s only Ronaldo we’ve done that with and that’s because his dream was Madrid.


6.) 28 Jun 2019 19:09:21
I just find it as amazing stat wazza. We are the only club that hadn't sold a player we bought at a petit for ten years.
Before that wazza we did it regularly we always have done it. so it not the united way. In fact its not any clubs way.
Its indicative of the recruitment policy and the contracts awarded. That side of the business has been poor for a long time.


7.) 28 Jun 2019 19:33:31
The only time you sell at a profit is when you either bought a player very cheaply or you are selling a player you don't want to leave.

Neither happen very often with us. Often we pay well over the odds to sign players in the first place. Then barring Ronaldo can you name any player we sold that we didn't really want to sell?

However, I do believe there is a flaw in that stat. It only takes into consideration the players a club signs. Yet how many youth players do we produce then sell at a decent profit? Surely if selling for profit is the most important thing then you need to consider all sales not just the ones that hold up your point.


8.) 28 Jun 2019 19:33:41
The only time you sell at a profit is when you either bought a player very cheaply or you are selling a player you don't want to leave.

Neither happen very often with us. Often we pay well over the odds to sign players in the first place. Then barring Ronaldo can you name any player we sold that we didn't really want to sell?

However, I do believe there is a flaw in that stat. It only takes into consideration the players a club signs. Yet how many youth players do we produce then sell at a decent profit? Surely if selling for profit is the most important thing then you need to consider all sales not just the ones that hold up your point.


9.) 28 Jun 2019 20:01:42
Shappy makes a good point, plus we are t rely a team that has struggled to hold on to our players.


10.) 28 Jun 2019 20:33:30
But its only a recent situation. Before 2009 we sold players at a profit during 70s 80s 90s 00s.


11.) 28 Jun 2019 21:07:16
We sold DiMaria because of Dimaria and i don't think th3 club wanted to sell him.


12.) 28 Jun 2019 21:17:00
If it makes you happy DDG and Pogba may be sold this window for a profit.


13.) 28 Jun 2019 21:17:37
Shappy that would be a different stat then wouldn't it.
Its not my point at all i read it and found it unusal which it is. Every other decade we sold players for a profit that we bought and so does every other club. Its not unusual its actually unique for us not to sell 1 player we bought for a profit in a full decade. Its never happened before.


14.) 28 Jun 2019 21:37:38
We have not bought a player since 2009 that has improved while being at the club so this statistic comes as little surprise.


15.) 28 Jun 2019 21:40:11
Who did we sell for a profit the 10 year before Ronaldo?


16.) 28 Jun 2019 21:57:14
Dud we sell hernandez at a profit in 2015.


17.) 28 Jun 2019 22:23:16
Last one before Ronaldo, off the top of my head we sold for a profit was stam. maybe lee Sharpe in the 90s? After that its a stretch. Weve never really been a great selling club, making profits off of selling players. We usually have our best players in their prime and those players tend to stay here until we want to move them on.

As Jred said, Hernandez was sold at a profit after Ronaldo, tosic too although he was a strange one.


18.) 28 Jun 2019 22:59:26
Did we sell RVN for a profit?


19.) 29 Jun 2019 01:07:25
Tevez was sold at a 27 million profit, before there are players like Kanchelskis, bought cheap, not sold for much but still at a profit.


20.) 29 Jun 2019 10:30:42
Tevez was on loan.


21.) 29 Jun 2019 12:09:25
Aye, my bad.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2019 19:33:56
Ed002 says not for sale and him and deligt are expected to be the new cb pairing for juve st the beginning of 20/ 21 season.
I know little or nothing of him but juve do know how to pick and mould a cb.
Juve still want pogba but want to include players in the deal.
Im not sure i fancy any of the names on the list for our squad with the exception of kean who is likely to go elsewhere.

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19 Jul 2019 19:28:00
Id say he is nowhere near as calm as he was. Real can't shift players and are not coming up with the cash we want.

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17 Jul 2019 16:40:59
Such a shame. Loads of ability horrible attitude horrible entourage and just a jerk.

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17 Jul 2019 01:39:10
In our squad there are 3 players in hoping for significant improvement from in particular.
In my opinion fred martial and sanchez could not have done any worse.
Loads of ability there but little to show for it last season.

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20 Jul 2019 12:24:50
Very good post jred.
There are only 2 valuations that matter. The price the selling club want and the price the buyers are prepared to pay.
If the decision is player x can fix problems in the team and compliment others and is seen as a good fit by those that make the decisions then he is worth more than what can be described as his "market value"
If player x and the team succeed his percieved market value is likely to increase.
Lots of players move for big money and kots for little money. There are no guarantees or very few anyway.
Barca. Dembele couts and malcom semedo nearly 350m none have been a huge success and are all for sale.
Neymar draxler di maria 300m all for sale at psg
We have a list of our own.
Build a strong core and base and add to it with flair if required or strength or muscle piece by piece.
Get the core right get the principles right and you have a much better chance.
I like what's happening with a cb and at least 1 more cm 2 preferably we should be in a really good spot.
The pogba situation needs to be classified sooner rather than later as that's the only potential de-railer i see to upset pre season.

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20 Jul 2019 09:02:44
Shsppy there is a reason you don't have a job in football mate. You don't half shout spout some rubbish😁😁😁 just your opinion of course but you write it like fact.

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20 Jul 2019 08:57:23
Bang on strebor.
Is pogba worth 180. Not in my opinion but if madrid want him that's the price.

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19 Jul 2019 19:21:34
If tjey see him play close up the may withdraw their offer. Keep him well away from Any football's till the money is in the bank😂😂.

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19 Jul 2019 18:46:09
Thanks ed002.

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