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29 Jan 2019 22:38:42
Frustrating game in many ways, which could have been so different had Rashford scored as he should have done in the first 10 minutes. He did not have a great game and nor did Pereira who looked completely out of his depth against a very aggressive midfield. I really don't think he's good enough for United, or indeed the type of player who will do very well in the EPL.

In this new system Sanchez looks like he could contribute significantly. A forward line of Rashford, Martial and Sanchez seems like it ought to pay dividends.


1.) 30 Jan 2019 05:23:42
Agreed, the interplay of Lukaku near the penalty box is not fluid as between Rash, Martial and Lingard.

2.) 30 Jan 2019 09:31:55
I was sat in the East end at OT. We should have had another penalty.

3.) 30 Jan 2019 14:28:00
To be honest I think Pereira didn't have his best game ever, but Jones throw him a brick, and then he got completely confused in the one-one defending.

I believe Pereira could be better but in an attacking position and no asan "herreras" replacement.

This is the first Ole´s game we start losing and that does not goes as planned, but the squad show commitment and desire. If Rashford scores that 10m goal the game would have been completely different with space and time for counters but rubbish happens. Let's focus on the next games and let's hope we have a great february.

i think it is better for Ole and the team to have lost the winning streak now and no in a game against PSG or Chelsea.




26 Dec 2018 22:43:47
Very good to see United score 8 goals in 2 games even if it was against teams near the bottom against whom we've been having all sorts of trouble. The tempo and the pressing seem to be what's needed. Perhaps Sanchez and Lukaku will benefit from it when they come back into the reckoning. But suffice it to say we have now scored 37 goals this season. If we can double it in the second half it will be our best haul since SAF's last year. If we're going to come 6th then the United way is surely that it's more entertaining to do it with 75 goals for and 55 goals against than with 50 goals for and 30 goals against.

I must say I've been unimpressed by Dalot defensively. He doesn't look like he has the pace and his positioning appears very suspect. I know he's young and there's an adjustment time - Evra didn't settle immediately - but nevertheless he's going to have to improve dramatically to cement that right back position. The other new player who doesn't they seem to have what it takes is Fred. It's hard to believe we were persuaded to spend £52m for him - or perhaps not, given some of our purchases recently. We would have done better spending it on a top center half. Many United fans criticized Liverpool for spending so much on Van Dijk but he seems like a bargain at this juncture.


1.) 26 Dec 2018 23:26:42
Shawthing, speed can be deceptive. Dalot was clocked as being the fastest player on the pitch today. But if the timing of that speed is not right it can be wasted.
He is a raw talent no doubt. We don’t have great options right now.

2.) 26 Dec 2018 23:44:01
Give the young lad Dalot a break. A couple of weeks ago against Fulham he couldn't get enough praise. That he was the answer to our right wing back problem for the next 10 years. Then a weaker game today and you're not sure is he going to make it. Inconsistency is a given for a teenager. Support your own.

3.) 27 Dec 2018 07:15:15
In fairness, that was one of Huddersfield’s tactics, mbenza is very quick, and Anytine they could they tried releasing him. Dalot was on the back foot very quickly after an attack broke down. Great lesson for the Lad.

4.) 27 Dec 2018 07:29:16
Dalot is young, 19 years old and playing only his third game in the EPL. His last performance won him man of the match so I see no reason to be worried about him. He is young and he will be inconsistent, he will make mistakes that is all part of learning. He has the qualities to become a world class full back, we need to give him the time and the chances for him to fulfill that potential.

5.) 27 Dec 2018 10:20:15
Dalot is certainly my Pick over an aging TonyV and Young (who is doing ok too) .
He is our future at right back, so let him play I say.

6.) 27 Dec 2018 11:25:22
He looks more like a future winger to me. He doesn't seem interested in defending.

7.) 27 Dec 2018 15:25:05
We've been defending whole season and still conceding goals. I don't even care whether Dalot comes back to defend or not. It was just nice to see our right back in the opposition box getting a cross from our striker and almost scoring a goal.

8.) 27 Dec 2018 18:07:46
Centre back and we are sorted Imo. we have options everywhere else. I'm really excited by dalot him, Shaw and lindelof could be together for a while along time and build a good understanding.

9.) 27 Dec 2018 19:03:50
Also how he plays will depend a lot on who is managing him. He did well defensively in Mourinho's defensive set up.

Ole has said publicly he wants our full backs to push up high and overlap our wingers. So if that is what is being asked of Dalot then it's good to see him following the managers commands.



02 Dec 2018 17:46:30
Assuming the rumours are true, if you believe your £90m transfer is playing with inadequate effort and/ or a poor mentality, a dressing down in the changing room in front of team mates is perfectly reasonable. I bet every one of us who have played sports have at some time or other have heard it from a coach or a colleague. Grow up and knuckle down. Most of the kids who watch you would kill for a chance at 1/ 10th of the benefits your innate talent has brought you.

The fact is Pogba is a disappointment. While he covers a fair amount of ground within a team that consistently covers the least in the EPL, he rarely sprints, neither in offence or defence. This characteristic was visible when he first stepped on the field in a United jersey before he went to Juventus. He looks lackadaisical, and it's probably one of the reasons why Ferguson was not inclined to fight to keep him. The problem is that, while he has talent, he is way to into himself to be a true leader, and that's the key role we need him to fill. A player who leads by example.

We are 5 years into the post-Fergie era and we are worse than ever. We do have some good players to build a team around but it's hard to see anything positive coming from them in the current climate. Given the amount of money we've spent, the only conclusion we can draw is that we are infected by a virus. Whether the source is Pogba, Mourinho or the general club mentality itself is a matter of conjecture. My own sense is that Woodward, Mourinho and Pogba are all symptoms of a deeper problem.


1.) 02 Dec 2018 21:07:06
All 3 of them should go at the end of the season.

We should say thanks Jose but uts not worked ta-ra. Says Pogba but you want to go to Spain so here's the asking price. And Woodward should have the decency to say "it was my decision to appoint Jose so I'll step down. "

2.) 03 Dec 2018 06:49:20
Fergie did want to keep Pogba, it was out of his hands. and while you might think Pogba has been disappointing his season, so has Lukaku, Rashford, Martial (most of the time), Bailly, Fred, Matic. who hasn't been disappointing? People might point to Shaw, but he hasn't gotten back to the 2-way beast he was looking like before his injury either.

I think when that many players aren't performing you have to look at the manager. And it's not like Mourinho's faults have been hard to see. Bizarre team selections and subs, consistently embarrassing behaviour, publicly sledging players all the time and bemoaning a lack of signings.

He's got to go. He's not one of us and he never will be.



13 Jan 2018 13:49:56
Sanchez has a bit of the Tevez about him. Very emotional. He obviously has all the skills, and when he's motivated his intensity and purpose adds a dimension to his game that any team would covet. So what is it that motivates him.

Clearly it's the thought of winning honours, and conversely looking at he seems to be demotivated by his team's mediocrity. So my guess is that:

1) he would only come to United if he thought he would win the EPL and/ or the Champions League in the next couple of years, and

2) if he did come, and it looked like those objectives were not going to be fulfilled, then it would be a disastrous transfer because his negative emotionality would end up leeching into and upsetting the dressing room.

Like for most supporters winning is ultimately more important than style. Arsenal play with style but they don't win the important trophies any more, which doesn't please their supporters and is clearly a demotivation to top players.


1.) 13 Jan 2018 15:39:18
Agreed for sure!

Lucas Moura maybe?

On another note, I mentioned a defender Jorge Mere who was at Espanyol and now at Koln and NOW Barça are after him!

We should have got this guy! Well disappointed!

2.) 13 Jan 2018 16:06:08
Well Ronnie don't mean to be rude but you might have named atleast 200 players by now. It might be difficult for United hierarchy to properly understand which one you want.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 16:34:44
I deserved that! 😂.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 21:09:56
For Sanchez's supposed attitude you can see the same thing happening at Spurs in the next 18 months if they win nothing -Ali, Erikson etc have no real affinity to Spurs as many players don't to their clubs. Sanchez probably looks around and sees nothing there but the odd FA CUp. maybe views us the same . time will tell.



05 Apr 2017 14:41:52
Two woodworks and a good goal disallowed epitomise what has been a most frustrating season. It's giving me ulcers. Virtually every game we've played we have created enough good chances to win the game handily. It's not down to tactics, it's down to finishing. The team in general seems to be suffering from a collective psychological block and somehow or other that problem has to be overcome.

The weight of expectation for players like Shaw, Pogba, Rashford, Martial, and Mhki needs to be lifted so that they are loose enough to begin to play to their potential. At present I'm sure the burden is as unbearable for the players as it is the fans.


1.) 05 Apr 2017 14:57:00
If you hit the post you have missed the target, its not bad luck it's a miss.

2.) 05 Apr 2017 15:11:46
It started since we stopped Dabbing and doing crazy handshakes for winning throw ins and corners! We need to bring them back.

3.) 05 Apr 2017 15:39:39
We've had the third most shots in the league.

No team in Europe have hit the bar/ post more than us. In fact we've hit it 9 more times than any other team.

5 of the 7 goalkeepers to win man of the match in the EPL this season have done so against us.

No team in the EPL has had more shot saved than us.

No team in the EPL has had more shots blocked than us.

It's starting to feel like a voodoo or gypsy curse. Surely we can't continue to be this unlucky.

4.) 05 Apr 2017 15:53:05
It's not bad luck though shappy.

5.) 05 Apr 2017 16:08:40
Strange how top sports men don't have bad luck .
It's all excesses and a bit embarrassing.
"There other gk had a good game "

Ddg been our best player the last 4 year . Luck or poor finishing?

6.) 05 Apr 2017 16:23:36
If it's not luck then what is it?

As for DDG making many saves, he does it every week, that's what makes him world class. Many of the keepers who have won motm against us this season have done so with their best performance in several years. They aren't world class keepers, they just have a strangely world class performance against us. Robles last night had a very good game, yet was awful a couple of days before against Liverpool.

The running joke this season is who is the best keeper in the world? Whoever's​ playing against United this week.

If you were Jose what would you be doing differently to make these chances into goals?

7.) 05 Apr 2017 16:36:20
I'm not Jose that's why he gets paid the big bucks .
Martial Rasford Ibra miki pogba mata I could go on have shown they are good players, have shown they can put the ball in net .

Chelsea where awful last season, poor at the start of the season, conte worked it out tho, and Chelsea and conte haven't been lucky in the same way United haven't been unlucky .
Over a season it works itself out .

Gk are there to make saves, defenders are there to defend you can't complain when the other team play well it sounds pathetic .

8.) 05 Apr 2017 16:37:57
By the way never mind chances, United have been poor the last couple of month as a team.

9.) 05 Apr 2017 16:41:18
Should also say getting the best out of your players is a very if not the most important job of the manager.

10.) 05 Apr 2017 16:42:58
Well put Shappy.

11.) 05 Apr 2017 20:06:38
I'd stop whining and slagging off my players. Just saying.

12.) 06 Apr 2017 21:11:02
I was trying to be sarcastic shaps! Guess I should put that in brackets lol.

We have been unlucky in many ways but we should also be doing better regardless of 'bad luck'

13.) 08 Apr 2017 09:15:02
Chipping in on the lucky/ unlucky theme.

If you're good enough you make your own luck surely?

What the stats suggest, in my opinion, is that we keep possession and stay compact. But we don't take risks often or quickly enough. And that's reflected in how we play.

Some of that is legacy of the last few years, some is the players and some is the manager.

I'm not a Jose fan, but i do believe he has to be given the time to implement his style. Personally i think if the goals and performances aren't showing through next season then he isn't going to achieve it.




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16 Jun 2019 12:57:44
It's probably not possible but it sure would be an excellent idea if clubs built into their contracts with players that they are simply not permitted to discuss certain things, like their contentedness, or their desire to leave, with the press.

As for Pogba, when all said and done, he is a very fitting manifestation of the way our club has been run. Both he and the owners/ CEO of our club are amoral mercenaries, devoid of loyalty.


1.) 16 Jun 2019 19:03:30
The biggest gripe I have is that the ex manager called him out, the club backed the player not Jose, and six months later he goes public saying he wants out. I think the club is getting everything it deserves right now with the current structure, ownership and people in charge.



05 May 2019 20:27:44
Martial, Rashford, Shaw, Smalling, Jones, Lindelof, Dalot, Mctominay, and Pogba all joined us as young players. Are they, as a unit, going to carry us to glory? This idea that we can simply rely on going back to promoting youth is a complete fantasy. It's going to require so much more than that. The whole philosophy of the club needs an update. People suggest we need to return to our roots by acquiring young British and Northern European players. Poppycock. That was then, this is now. In the top clubs in England where the competition is most fierce it's questionable whether it can be done. The top English teams are not relying on youth talent to win them anything. If one or two players emerge every few years that's as much as they expect.

It is now 6 years since SAF retired. The cracks and the gulf in class between us and Barcelona were obvious before he departed. We have made zero progress towards fixing it. Zero. In fact we've gone backwards. It has absolutely nothing to do with the toxic fans who still pack OT every week and who make the treks to the away games.

Every team goes through cycles, institutions are reluctant to change a winning formula even when it's not winning any more. My main culprit for the malaise at United is Woodward. He'd be my first on the list of people out the door. There are surely others who could handle the marketing and business aspects of the club. As for the players, their shortcomings have been done to death, although I do believe some of them have been exacerbated by the lack of management ability on and off the pitch.

I've been a United fan for over 55 years and I'll die one whether we get back into the mix or not. I wish Ole luck. He's got an enormous task at a club where expectations are always extremely high. He starts out without any of the structural issues addressed. The players in the squad are ill-suited to competing with the likes of City and Liverpool who actually play as a team, and whose squads are blessed with skillful players who run far more than United do.


1.) 05 May 2019 23:13:55
Top post Shawthing. Not sure who disagreed with you?
I too have been saying that unless the club structure and hierarchy is changed, then no manager will succeed.
We are in a worse mess than when we got relegated in the 70s.
And for what's it's worth, OGS is not the man to move us forward.



03 Apr 2019 15:54:04
I think we have Ole because no other serious realistic candidate came forward who wanted the job. There was absolutely no other compelling reason to appoint him at this stage of the season having previously indicated he was strictly an interim manager and before we had seen how he and the team handled the most critical part of the season. Is it possible that SAF's hands are on this as they were over Moyes

Ed002 talks about toxic fans, but the real problem is a toxic management team. I expect because of our financial resources we will consistently be good enough to finish top 6 come what may, but my prediction is that unless both Woodward and Ferguson are removed from involvement in matters of football we will not see a truly competitive United team.


1.) 03 Apr 2019 16:25:26
shawthing, are you suggesting that the results didn't play any part for Ole's appointment?

I would agree with how the club has been managed over the past few years and would remove Woodward without any hesitation. But, to remove Sir Alex would be the most silly thing to do - his experience and know-how could still be vital for us going forward as we look to stabilize the club.

The most critical appointment needed is a DOF, irrespective of what happens with Woodie.

2.) 03 Apr 2019 16:50:31
Shawthing, Who are these amazing phenomenal managers who are readily available who will GUARANTEE a league challenge while playing fantastic attacking football, while promoting youngsters and developing them into world class players, who will respect the club, its history and traditions?

I have asked numerous times from all the people who are unhappy with the appointment of Ole who would be a better candidate and all I get back is a deafening silence. It's almost as if no one knows who would be better they just want to moan about who we have.

You want to know why it might have been a good idea to hire Ole now rather then wait two months?

1, It allows the club to start planning for the summer with the consent and alongside the full time manager.

2, It allows the players to know what is going on, who will be their manager next season and maybe even give confidence in some of them to sign new deals.

3, It allows the club to start the process of moving some players on, as the next full time manager can say which players he deems not necessary for next season.

4, It allows Ole to start the process of moving his family over and all the planning that goes with that. One of the often said big issues with Mourinho was him struggling to cope with living in a hotel without his family. So making sure that all that can be sorted as soon as possible should make things easier for the new manager.

5, It stops the media repeatedly asking the same question at the start of every interview. This is distracting from the club, the team and the players.

6, It makes the club look more stable, lifting the lid of ambiguity that has surrounded the club since Jose left.

Why Ole? Well he has earned it. He has given us a shot of finishing in the top four, which was a distant and unrealistic dream before he took over. He has on the whole improved both performances and results, in spite of having the same players with the same limitations. He has lifted the mood around the whole club, top to bottom. He has started the process of re-establishing the clubs identity.

So to not give him the job and offer it to someone else who will also have areas whey haven't yet proven themselves which are vital to the club.

3.) 03 Apr 2019 17:11:49
Shappy do you even read the site or more inportantly do you even respect Ed002's inputs on this page. He has stated that Ole will have no to very little inputs on transfer matters, so what good does it do to name him manager when he has no inputs. On the available options, i replied to your query on 18th March, go read buddy. Better, nuch better options out there. As of now, we don't think that the players know whether they will be here or not next season so don't think it matters. As many said to one of the posts at the beginning of Ole's reign that players think about the club and not the manager when they sign for the club so Ole or anyone else wouldn't matter. The results over the past month make us look stable? How?

You ask which managers guarantee all those things, Ole doesn't either. His score on all those points is 0.

4.) 03 Apr 2019 20:09:53
Let’s play united

The presence of Sir Matt Busby around the club was seen as a hindrance for many years so I would not dismiss keeping SAF away from football matters. Old muddled thinking may be a result of the icons influence rather than bright new ideas.

5.) 03 Apr 2019 20:41:58
United Addict, I have the utmost respect for Ed002 and his input on this site. I was saddened to hear him say Ole would have minimal input on transfers. I feel that highlights the broader problem at the club. If the manager isn't key in transfers then who is? We don't have a DoF or a TD so who with in depth football knowledge is making these key decisions?

However, you haven't answered my question, just tried to pick a hole in one of six points I made while glossing over the other 5 as they are all totally valid.

I won't be digging though on the search pages. If you honestly feel there are other better candidates then name them in this thread and let's see how credible they truly are. However, I doubt you will as you know they aren't and you don't want to look a fool.

6.) 03 Apr 2019 21:00:21

Ed002 has said this before, he also said Mourinho was not supported. LvG has talked about it. I was pilloried for suggesting that Mourinho didn’t get the level of player he asked for. Add this to the decisions on managerial appointments.

7.) 03 Apr 2019 21:01:10
Good post Shappy it would appear we are in crisis again but not to worry because if we win against Barcelona he'll be a genius again!

8.) 03 Apr 2019 23:13:45
It looks like I got well beaten at home. 0-6! That's a record I'm proud of. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems clear to me that the interplay between the old United football guys, for whom I have the greatest respect and affection, on the one hand and the board/ CEO remains utterly out of whack. Just like players, managers and directors reach a time when it is wise to hang up ones boots. With the amount of money available to the club, after 5 years we should be much further along the road. The fact we're not speaks volumes. Can anyone see us challenging City or Liverpool in the next 3 years?

9.) 04 Apr 2019 04:47:24
There you go Shappy, the names from 18th March.

"Absolutely Shappy. I am not in favour of Ole at all. Ole has been doing all the same things that we accused Jose of i.e playing negative football with at times 11 men behind the ball. The first 3 and a half games of his reign were great to watch and then it has gone downhill. But I have already listed out my reasons in several posts.

There are no guarantees in football but you still go with the best available option. Ed2 has ruled out Allegri and I guess he might be off to PSG and that would make Tuchel available. Poch is likely to leave. Nagelsmann. Blanc. Just a few from the top of my head. But hey I don't make the decisions and I am sure there are several others that would make the list.

Everyone keeps saying that we have tried experience and CVs before that didn't work but let me point out to them that since SAF retired, we have won 2 Community Sheilds, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup and 1 Europa League. That's more than what Liverpool with their ultra modern managers have won in a decade or more. "

Now before you say that Poch stayed at Spurs, please do confirm that he wasnt told by United that Ole was being confirmed. Sounds a bit odd that all the negative comments coming from Poch around 2 months ago when he was looking for a way out stopped suddenly.

Shappy i am not a fool and if you read my reply properly you will find that i have covered atleast 3 of your points regarding players and the manager. On Ole's family, i don't give a damn to where they live. I am only concerned about the football and not the WAGs. And if you think that the media would stop asking questions than you are a bigger fool than what you are accusing me of being. If anything, the media will ask more questions of the great results that Ole has delivered past month.

10.) 04 Apr 2019 06:51:35
Shappy. Some posters cannot be convinced.
Such a shame that they do not understand or ignoring the fact that the true problem lies behind the scene.

Ed002 was right "the fundamental problem with the MU supports here is a complete lack of knowledge about the club. "

11.) 04 Apr 2019 07:00:07
Shaw thing

It is unlikely to say the least that we will truly challenge the Barcelona Real Madrid level at all because the owners and Woodward do not seem to have that ambition.

The next level down from Madrid Barcelona is City and Liverpool, will we join them? I have low confidence that the club will buy what it takes. The press don’t always know but already rumours are Sancho and Hudson Odoi are rumoured to be out of sight. Maybe their clubs won’t sell but as in previous windows we will likely look at cheaper alternatives. I just can’t see Mourinho signing off on some of those bought and LvG said he wasn’t supported either. Whoever is buying seems to have money in mind. We must not blame Ole this summer; the fault of where we are, the sentimentality of appointing him, the lack of spending on the ground or on the level of players is down to Woodward and the owners.

12.) 04 Apr 2019 08:19:51
TrueRedDevil, Ed002 said that about you. My point is that when Jose was sacked, ole was nowhere in contention for the job, in fact his name didn't even appear in the shortlist and now 3 months in he is named permanent. Why? Why not wait till the end of the season when we finish 6th. We all know that Woodward is the problem, so why was Jose sacked and not backed. What makes you think that Ole darling would be allowed to do what he wants. 4 months down the line and we haven't seen a change. No tactics no style no attractive play, so why give it to him now? Yes man got the job.



06 Mar 2019 22:30:34
And the other very rewarding comeuppance was that Angel de Maria, who was mouthing the F word at United fans a couple of weeks ago, gets to go out of the tournament.


1.) 06 Mar 2019 23:02:53
Hard to root for PSG (in any other game) when they have two of the biggest diving cheats in the world. No need for me to name them.

2.) 06 Mar 2019 23:52:57
Di Maria's face at the end. Psg deserved it. Showboating and ball juggling.

3.) 07 Mar 2019 04:39:48
Bye bye Maria. thanks for coming. again.



13 Feb 2019 11:07:59
The Clough Taylor partnership was founded upon recognition of sell by dates, extracting good returns on players who were supposedly at their peak, but in fact only had one direction to go. SAF had that ability too. When he sold RVN and replaced him with Carrick people asked where would the goals come from. If I remember correctly we scored more the following season.

The effectiveness of the policy depends on the ability to recognize and acquire or develop the right young talent to fit into whatever the tactical plan is, which in turn requires a manger or succession of managers who are ahead of the curve, or at least the best exponents of the current one. This has been the crucial failing at United and it started before SAF retired.

For me the problem was epitomized by the signing of RVP, a 29 year old injury prone striker, who clearly had no long term future at the club. Yes, it was spectacularly successful - for one season - but it did nothing to rebuild an aging squad and a youth development program that was no longer producing top talent. And since that time successive managers have compounded the problem with signings like Sanchez, Ibrahimovic, Matic, the retention of decent but hardly top world class players like Mata, Young and Valencia, and the signings of other mediocre talents like Fred, Darmian, Blind. The antithesis of the formula required to get to and stay at the top.

Last night the distance between United and the top teams of Europe was exposed. No wonder Ole, who takes no blame whatsoever for the loss, looked so disconsolate. He has done wonders in the domestic competitions so far, reversing the malaise Mourinho created. It will now be interesting to see how he and the players cope with that reality check. This next month will define the season and determine whether Ole is even in the running for the manager job. Both Chelsea and Arsenal started their season under new managers on highs but have since collapsed. The true test comes when the manager and the players are facing adversity, not when they are riding on the crest of novelty's wave.


1.) 13 Feb 2019 11:57:33
Signing RVP was a no brainer. He was at the peak of his powers.
Sometimes, we need to buy such world class talent to set the bench mark. They will push the rest of the squad to raise their level.
Moreover, the older players have leadership qualities and can pass on their knowledge, experience to the rest of the squad.

Look at PSG. They signed 41 year old Buffon and 35 year old Dani Alves.
There needs to be a correct combination of youth and experience.




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13 Jul 2019 21:16:52
The club should not sell its assets cheaply but there comes a time when holding on makes not much business sense if it means retaining a player who is not going to get game time and whose salary is taking up needed space. If that's the case for Lukaku then £60m would at least be a profit on the residual book value and £5m a year off the wages bill. That's a lot of conjectures and we have no idea what's going on, or even whether there are any serious talks or with whom. In any event we should trust Ed Woodward. We all know he has amazing expertise in the transfer market.




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01 Jul 2019 13:24:30
Solid if not spectacular player well exploited by SAF. His arrival to play on the right side seemed to correspond with the deterioration in Nani, who never seemed as happy on the left. Many a left back will miss being rapped on the legs and torso by his ill-timed crosses.




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21 Apr 2019 22:18:46
It's hard to see how they're going to get out of this now. We have a very high payroll and are up against FFP regulations, we have a number of players who are unsellable because of their high wages. We are not going to be in the Champions League, and there's no reason to think next season will be any better whatever happens in the transfer market. We have not progressed at all in 5 years.

Are they good businessmen? They were certainly lucky. SAF could have left 10 years earlier and the success could have dried up leaving the debt un-repayable. They could not have known for sure how lucrative the TV rights might become or the revenue from sponsorships. Right now we may be looking at the moment they have maxed out from a financial perspective. Meanwhile Spurs made £120m on 60% of the revenues, while City and Liverpool are purring. It's been clear for years, the top players and managers are not impressed by United, and regard the structure as irredeemable. That's why Ole is the manager. No one else wanted the job. That's why we don't have a DOF. And that's why the best players are not coming to OT.

The day Woodward leaves is the day we might start to get our club back.




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04 Jan 2019 16:33:03
Potential star is exactly it. But lots of young players can't step up to the next level. It could be due to mismanagement but most likely it is not. The coaching staff at United and at the loan clubs are unlikely to be wrong. I agree with Ed002. It's disappointing but he's almost certainly just not good enough.




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30 Jun 2018 12:08:21
Fellaini knows he's only going to be squad player, and, given the transfer costs United seem to need to pay in order to get anyone half way decent as an alternative, having him around for his wage cost only seems to me a very decent bit of business by United. With Fellaini you know what you're getting: it's someone who may not be top drawer but is at last as good as some of the overrated players who have been linked with us, like Dier, who would cost us a lot more. He's not my favorite player but he does offer a viable alternative in style when it's needed.





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26 May 2019 17:41:01
I agree Ed. Part of the value of the package for the player may be the project. Players want honours and to work with the best coaches. Pocchetino seems to be able to get his players to give everything for the club while Levy keeps the wages within a manageable level. Some of them could get more elsewhere. United don't have a project, and haven't had one since well before SAF left. When Ferguson and Gill left at about the same time they bequeathed to Woodward the fruits of the early Glazer era, a club milked of its cash flow and stocked with aging players, and he hadn't, nor has he acquired, the knowledge and skills to deal with it. The irony of it all is that Ed002 blames the toxic fans for our decline. How toxic do we have to get to get rid of Woodward?


{Ed001's Note - the problem is that Ed002 also has a point. Getting rid of Woodward should not be because of the fans being toxic, as that affects the club's ability to bring in players, new managers, staff in general, oh and to find someone to run it when Woodward does go. If everyone is behind it all but it is not working out, Woodward then has no excuses to hide behind and he will be replaced if success doesn't come.}



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26 May 2019 07:18:44
Yes, Ed, true. I was quibbling with the generalized implication that too much money in the game was affecting the commitment of the players. All of them are affected by the same phenomenon. The average wage in the EPL is £2.5m, more than most will make in a lifetime. Even if the acquiring team is playing closer to market rate, it will in almost all circumstances be the highest bidder. The money problem, insofar as it actually exists on more than a sick social imbalance level, seems to be affecting United more than our main rivals. That has to be down to poor management, and not the money per se.


{Ed001's Note - Liverpool were not offering the highest wage to van Dijk, for instance. He could have gone to City and got a lot more. He was sold a project and if he had decided on money being more important he would be elsewhere. Whereas you contrast that with Sanchez, has a deal agreed with City but United step in and get him by offering him more money. Not by telling him he would have a role that will entice him or be part of a project. It was "we will offer you more money". So you are right, there is a problem at United as they speak about money first, second and third because you are being run by a banker not a sportsman.}



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25 May 2019 21:39:49
How has too much money affected the performances of City and Liverpool's players? Part of the management process today is determining what motivates a player. No amount of money will resolve innate character flaws.


{Ed001's Note - but they are not being convinced to join their teams by being paid more than other teams would.}



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12 May 2019 14:35:51
Great player who due to injury only had two seasons that statistically lived up to his talent. Without the inspired one he had at United, we would no doubt not have won our 20th league title. But for me, he always looked a little out of place in a United shirt. And while his acquisition was inspired, behind it the rot was already settling in as our best players came to the end of their careers, not to be replaced by ones with equal talent (there being no value in the market? ) . RVP's and United's success that year was obfuscatory. It was the end of an era, a final hurrah for him and SAF. Now the transition is complete. Gone also are Mourinho and Wenger, our challengers, with all that they represented being eclipsed by Klopp and Guardiola, and to some extent Pocchetino. Sic transit gloria mundi.




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22 Apr 2019 15:12:39
The world has changed since 92 when the vast majority of players in the EPL were from the British Isles. 1n 1991-2 we had only two players in the squad who were not, Schmeichel and Kanchelskis. Was there a single foreign born manager? The idea that we can return to whatever worked in 1992 is a myth.