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23 May 2025 07:36:25
I saw this earlier today.

There are unsubstantiated rumours of players not being happy with RA's methods. A couple of thoughtful trophy-winning former United players wonder how effective it can be having a coaching staff that, in some cases, is both younger and less experienced than the players they are attempting to work with.

Many will say the players are the issue here, but if you lack confidence in the coaches, or they are hugely inexperienced, then is it a surprise?

23 May 2025 08:47:10
We had the exact same leaks with Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole, Rangnik and most recently with Ten Haag. Six repetitions of the same thing, IT’S THE BLOODY PLAYERS!

23 May 2025 09:05:26
In one Rewz.

23 May 2025 09:31:42
Rewz,

Couldn’t have put it better myself. Also, we don’t have any players older than the manager. If they don’t like the methods they know exactly where they can go.

23 May 2025 09:54:57
What players do we have older than the manager, I know they play like there 50 but they ain’t, just more crap that comes out when losing.
Like all blame the system bandwagon that’s all tosh, can’t score goals can’t win matches, when we come up against physicality we are in trouble, everytime.

23 May 2025 10:38:03
If this is true then it’s the same crap over and over again, simply the players trying to shift the blame into someone else. Other side is that it’s utter bs and simply the media making up crap to stir the pot and create even more tension in an already volatile situation. We need a massive culture change this summer one way or another….

23 May 2025 11:44:55
The thing that worries me, is the sheer number of players we need to get out he club. We’ve got players out on loan that need to be sold and replaced (Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Malacia), players leaving on free’s (Eriksen, Lindelof, Evans, Heaton) that need replacing PLUS a large number of the team that needs selling and replacing.
Realistically the players we can probably sell are Bruno, Garnacho, Mainoo, Dalot, Amad plus with the documented interest from Italy maybe Zirkzee and Hojlund. Of the aforementioned players Mainoo and Amad are probably the least likely to be sold.
Shaw and Casemiro are finished but still have years left, approx. £600k pw in salary so we are stuck with them. Martínez is quality but can’t stay fit, Mount hasn’t be able to put a run of games together in 2 years. That’s four senior players you can’t reply upon.
The goalkeeper position needs addressing.
I can see Garnacho, Bruno, Dalot, Zirkzee and Hojlund potentially going, add in the four out on loan and the four leaving on a free, that’s potentially 13 players.
The rebuild needed on the squad is terrifyingly large.

23 May 2025 12:08:32
In my opinion I think the potentials are Bruno Fernandes potentially sold for £120m. Rashford linked with a £40m move. Garnacho, despite his talent, might be off for £50m. Sancho could go for a cut-price £20m. Add to that a list of expiring contracts — Eriksen, Lindelöf, Heaton, Evans — and you’re looking at a significant reset both on the pitch and on the wage bill.

But what does this mean in real financial terms, especially under the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR)?

Estimated Player Sales and PSR Profit Impact

Player Sale Fee (£m) Original Cost (£m) Book Value Left PSR Profit (Est. )

Bruno Fernandes £120m £47m ~£5m ~£115m
Marcus Rashford £40m Academy product £0 £40m
Garnacho £50m Academy product £0 £50m
Jadon Sancho £20m £73m ~£30m ~–£10m (loss)


Estimated PSR Profit: ~£195 million

Because Rashford and Garnacho came through the academy, 100% of their sale fees count as profit in PSR terms. Bruno, with most of his transfer cost now amortised, would also register a massive profit. Even with a Sancho loss, the total PSR profit is significant.


Wage Bill Relief

Player Weekly Wage Annual Saving

Fernandes £240k £12.5m
Rashford £300k £15.6m
Garnacho £50k £2.6m
Sancho £350k £18.2m
Eriksen £150k £7.8m
Lindelöf £120k £6.2m
Heaton £40k £2.1m
Evans £40k £2.1m


Total Estimated Wage Savings: ~£67 million annually

This creates vital breathing space under both PSR and the UEFA Squad Cost Ratio, even though United will not be in the Champions League next season.


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So, What Can United Spend?

Under PSR, you can’t lose more than £105m over three years, but player sales and cost-cutting can offset this. With ~£195m in PSR profit and a leaner wage bill, United could reasonably reinvest around £200m–£250m, if structured smartly.

How?

Buy a player for £50m on a 5-year deal = only £10m/ year hit to PSR.

Spread your rebuild across 4–5 signings on these terms, and you stay well within your financial limits.


Other Factors:

No Champions League = a £40–60m revenue hit.

Still paying instalments for past transfers (Antony, Casemiro, etc. ) .

Need to budget for agent fees, bonuses, and future wages.

23 May 2025 14:46:08
Doesn't Sancho only have 1 year left on his contract meaning that if his original cost was £73m his book value should now be down to £15m and a £20m sale would yield a small profit?

I wonder whether there will be interest in Antony from any richer clubs than Betis. His book value is reportedly still around £32m. His salary remains an obstacle, but we can only hope. If not maybe he can stay there at Betis. They qualified for the Europa League and could maybe afford to cover all his salary.

Amorim doesn't seem to fancy Mainoo much either but if Bruno goes he maybe has to be kept for another year. Often players have a poor second year after impressing the first. Kobbie was blighted by injuries this season, maybe he'll shine next year. All profit if sold.

Dalot could also be a potential sale. He's been written down to £0 so it would yield all profit.

The commentators on the Europa final were suggesting that a place in the Champions League would be worth > £100m between guarantees, sponsorship etc.

With no European football we should be able to make do with a slightly smaller squad.

23 May 2025 15:50:46
There is no outstanding transfer fee to be amortised for Bruno.

23 May 2025 16:07:57
Rinse and bloody repeat from the players. never their fault.

So they don't like the methods of a manager with a young coaching set up. One that got success at their previous club as the players brought into it and they got players that suit.

Get rid of these players.

23 May 2025 16:18:55
Why does everyone worry about players salaries and fees etc, it’s not your money, what’s the point quoting figures you have no worry or concern about, plus. What makes you think if any quality players come in they are going to be cheaper or work for a few luncheon vouchers, I don’t get it….
Would not be so bad if you knew the inner workings of the club but your all dreaming these figures up on hear say, don’t give me the accounts tosh or media BS
Oh just sell Bruno for 120m yeah easy… and also get rid of the only player we got that’s any good….

23 May 2025 16:25:58
Sancho was bought for £73m on a 5 year deal. That’s £14.6m pa, that obviously is just the fee, I have no knowledge of how agents fees etc are accrued, they may be an exceptional line item on the balance sheet or could be wrapped up in the amortised book value. His contract is up in June ‘26 so that would leave £14.6m of book. The £20m figure banded about is about right is the other costs were included.

Bruno’s original deal (5.5yrs) ran until the end of this season I believe.

Playing football manager with the player amortised number is all god and well. However we still have significant debt owed on players, we have reductions written into contracts for not being in Europe and we will have a yr on yr revenue reduction for the league revenue due to our finish. The 25/ 26 forecast will have significantly reduced revenues, it’s not just about PSR it’s about balancing the books. Don’t be surprised to see more staff cuts, high earning players moved on with cheaper alternatives coming. Any planned capex projects will get canned.

I still don’t understand why Ineos bought in the way they did. They would have done an incredible amount of due diligence and yet still dropped over £1.3bn to buy 29.9% of a failing company. They would have had asset surveys undertaken on all the physical stuff like the stadium and training facilities, forensic accounting on the finances. They own other clubs so it’s not their first Rodeo. On the face of it, it doesn’t make sound commercial sense.

23 May 2025 17:38:55
Here we go again with the players don't like the managers methods.

I do fear for Amorim though, if United start poorly next season the media are going to whip up a storm.

United need to start getting some positivity in the news and begin changing the narrative.

23 May 2025 17:58:47
Won't happen thou, it's utd therefore only negative stories get published. utd ruined a lot of these jurnos childhoods and this in their heads in revenge. It's that simple, until utd start winning this is always going to continue.

23 May 2025 19:19:49
For f**KS sake it's the players. How stupid do we have to be to keep blaming the manager time after time after time.

Just remove the emotion for a second and think logically.

This is a league title winning manager with these coaches. He has taken a fallen giant club and made them back into a genuine force in Portugal.

While these players have never won the title and have shown themselves to be incapable time and time again under multiple managers.

If at this point you still feel its the manager that is the problem them either you have a very low IQ or you've suffered some traumatic brain injury at some point.

23 May 2025 20:33:17
Indeed Shappy.

19 May 2025 11:58:30
Looks like cunha could be first in the door this summer. Fabrizio Romano reporting that a deal is close to being finalised. Really like him as a player and think he will bring us something different in 1 of those key 10 positions.

19 May 2025 13:43:33
Great start to the summer window if this is true. Moving quickly on a key player.
Will be interesting to see if we try and get another 1/ 2 during this first phase of the window then try and move some players on.

19 May 2025 16:47:15
A prem proven signing that actually makes sense formation wise and is on reasonable terms. Can not complain.

19 May 2025 16:52:11
If they’re moving this fast on transfers in it shows promise for moving players on.

If we’re in the mess I keep reading and have to sell to buy then surely they’ve got to have outgoings pretty much confirmed?

19 May 2025 16:57:28
He'd be a great signing, EPL proven and a real goalscorer.

19 May 2025 17:10:05
A good signing, for sure, but just one many we need. A proven goalscorer, a new keeper, and a CDM are arguably much more important.

As things stand, we already have seven or eight players on the books who are best suited to one of those two CAM positions (Bruno, Mount, Maino, Garnacho, Zirkzee, Amad, Anthony, Rashford, and Sancho), even if one or two of those look likely to move on in the summer. Comparatively, we are seriously short-staffed up top (Højlund and Chido) and in the CDM position (Casemiro and Ugarte), and both of our keepers are terrible.

19 May 2025 17:39:37
I really like him. I just a wee bit concerned as he flopped at big clubs in the past.

19 May 2025 22:36:55
Tbh I don’t think we can judge any player until they are in a United shirt…good or bad! We’ve had some really good players come in who’ve done well b4 us, looked poor for us then excelled again after they left. Time will tell!

20 May 2025 10:00:56
Redseven take at least 3 out of that list for next season. likely 4. Then we see logic for bringing Cunha in.

20 May 2025 17:12:41
Brad. Even if we sell three or four, and let Erickson go, we still have six first team players who are best suited to one of those two CAM spots (Bruno, Zirkzee, Mount, Garnacho, Maino, and Amad) .

Compare that to CDM, where our only two first team options are Ugarte and Casemiro, and I think it’s fair to say that CDM is much more or a priority than CAM. Likewise, our only out and out strikers are Chido (who has never scored a first team goal) and Hojlund (who is nowhere near good enough to lead the line at an EPL club), and blowing £60m+ on Cunha seems like a strange decision, especially if doing so means we have to settle for a Delap rather than a Sesko, an Osimhen, or a Gyokores.

I do think Cunha would be a good signing, but considering the many gaps in our squad, a new CAM should be fairly low down the shopping list; not this season’s marquee signing.

20 May 2025 19:05:55
Really redseven how have the ones we have done over last few years?

21 May 2025 01:06:17
Garnacho, Mainoo or Zirkee are not nowhere near good enough to play that position plus none of them can score many at all, Mount can, but can’t be relied on because injury record, Amad possibly, Bruno certainly and RA wants to play with 2 number 10s who can all score goals and a decent striker.

I would say the goals is 100% the first thing to sort in this team, been so for 2-3seasons next is GK and Decent CB.

15 May 2025 17:52:02
I'm not buying the Semenyo rumours at all. He'd be the L10, which is exactly where Cunha is being bought to play.

L10: Cunha/ Garnacho
R10: Mbuemo/ Amad/ Mount

LWB: Dorgu/ Shaw/ Amass
RWB: Amad/ Dalot.

15 May 2025 20:38:04
What makes you think Cunha is nailed on? Remember Olise lol.

15 May 2025 20:47:04
I would take Semenyo over Cunha every day until the end of time, there is simply no comparison.

I'll say again RWB, no for Amad.
Dumfries, Ait-Nouri are two to consider.

15 May 2025 21:56:05
Yeah I think we need a wingback too. Vanderson of Monaco also linked recently who looks a good player.

15 May 2025 22:20:55
Jimbo red. Really Semenyo over Cunha? Cunha is far more talented and can play in many positions. He would be able to play in any of the top teams. Semenyo is a good player but I could never see him play as a number 8 or number 10 to the same level if at all. Cunha is a little bit Cantonaesque.

15 May 2025 22:32:54
Cunha is a bit like Cantona in every department. A bit lazy, a bit of a temper etc etc.
Watched both play, believe Semenyo offers more to the team. Cunha is about Cunha.

{Ed025's Note - a loose cannon Jimbob, but very talented mate..

16 May 2025 03:00:24
Not denying his talent Ed25, my main concern is whether he is the 'right' fit at the right time for us.
If we had an established squad that was competing week in week out, sprinkling a Cantona/ Cunha type player into the mix is a great idea.
I just have a feeling throwing Cunha to lions with our current squad could have far reaching damaging consequences. I would love to be proven wrong. Maybe I am just scarred from previous examples!

{Ed025's Note - i get what you are saying Jimbob, the thing is that he is a goal threat which is something you are missing mate..

16 May 2025 06:41:36
Rooney and Keane were loose cannons aswell. Sometimes you need players like that.

{Ed025's Note - i agree MH..

16 May 2025 09:19:31
Cunha all day long. Agree with comments about his temper and agressive nature at points, but on the flipside you have a player that lives for goals and assists and will not be pushed around by defenders.
We can have a player like this in the team and will transform our attacking play.

16 May 2025 10:10:33
Totally agree Ed, he fits the bill for goals/ assists.
I was and still am in the Cunha IN camp, I just have that slight reservation. But I guess you could apply the same concerns to any signing!

{Ed025's Note - he would certainly improve the team Jimbob..

16 May 2025 19:31:44
I think they sell garnacho.

16 May 2025 22:23:30
Garnacho and Hojlund should be sold.

18 May 2025 00:03:09
Garnacho needs to stay.

18 May 2025 11:17:21
Not for me, Garnacho needs to go too, his finishing is atrocious and becoming a one trick pony. If they can get 50 mil plus for him then use it to get more goals into this team.

19 May 2025 09:04:25
Or get a world class goalie.

19 May 2025 10:16:39
We need goals badly and a GK and a CB.

19 May 2025 17:11:55
With Garnacho I'm fine either way.

If we keep him then we have a young player with potential who has shown ability to be a very good player. He will need to knuckle down and develop further though to have a long term future at the club.

While if we sell him then we receive a large fee, entirely profit that can be reinvested in the squad. Hopefully on players more ready to be first team players and make a consistent impact in the team.

I mean we are almost certainly going to sign Cunha, and with Bruno and Amad in the squad that probably puts Garnacho 4th choice in one of the No.10 positions. If Mount can stay fit and rediscover his best form then Garnacho would be 5th choice. While Mainoo might be best in one of those positions rather than deeper. If fully fit and with a good pre-season behind him then he could well have an impact next season similar to last season. Which could then push Garnacho down to 6th choice.

He is a player I think we can afford to lose as his impact right now is not where it needs to be, and we have a lot of quality in those positions. So selling him could be the difference between adding a second striker signing, a midfielder or a keeper this summer. All of whom would be more likely to be first choice and improved the he starting 11.

20 May 2025 10:36:58
I not at all sold on Garnacho at all and think he should be sold, but to say Mainoo would be in front of him in that position is pushing it a bit too far….

Mainoo or Garnacho should not be in our starting 11, if we want to improve, we need to be setting our sights higher than either of these two.

06 May 2025 11:36:18
Fernandes linked with Al Hilal again. The money being talked about, if true, could significantly help with a squad rebuild.

Personally I worry replacing his assists and goals may make any deal bad but have seen one quote as €120 million. Would be about £80 million after Sporting Sell on fee and final amount of. amprtized deal.

06 May 2025 12:02:38
Would be crazy letting him go right now. He contributes so much in terms of goals and assists. Would be one hell if a gamble.

06 May 2025 12:16:01
I think it is upto the players. If he wants to leave, let him leave.

06 May 2025 17:56:37
I would be shocked if Bruno wants to play in such a league at this time, I appreciate money talks, but maybe in couple of years.
But if he did go we got mega problems, him and Cas are only good players we got.

06 May 2025 20:03:03
Only thing on my mind is Fernandes is 30, 80 million is roughly 240 to spend and means we shouldn't need to sell Garnacho or Mainoo this summer.

Its not going to happen but at that fee it surely makes the powers that be question it, if it were to come to fruition.

06 May 2025 20:31:08
Fernandes turns 31 in September. Every player has avalue, especially if the Saudis come in with a lucrative offer.

06 May 2025 22:54:53
By all accounts the fee could be even higher than that. There has to be a price at his age and our present standing.

07 May 2025 05:47:08
I think this is one of those situations where no matter what happens the club are likely to be seen to be doing the wrong thing.

On one hand Bruno is our captain, our leader on the pitch and currently our best and only player close to being world class. Losing him would absolutely have a negative impact on the team, at least in the short term. While there are absolutely no guarantees that any money he brings in would be spent on the team or if it was that it would be spent wisely. Remember when Spurs sold Bale and bought 3 or 4 players with the money. None of them came close to providing even a quarter of what Bale did.

On the other hand he is 31 in September, on huge wages, and will only decline on the pitch. When that happens is anybody's guess. Maybe he does a Modric and keeps playing at a high level for another 5 or 6 years, or maybe his body starts giving up on him over the next couple of seasons. He has after all worked it harder than most, rarely injured, playing the majority of available minutes every year for the past 5-6 years or more. Does he even know how to slow down and manage himself? While if the rumours of a record British sale price are true then it isn't an offer the club can dismiss out of hand. Sacrificing Bruno in the short term might be the better option for the club in the long term. It helps rebalance the wage structure by getting another higher earner off it. While if the money is reinvested well in the squad then we could bring in 4 maybe even 5 players who if even half of them go on to be vital first team members means that we've improved the team overall.

Whatever happens the naysayers will be out in force. If we sell him then we lack ambition, and have lost our best player. If we keep him then the moment his form drops they will say we wasted the opportunity to sell him for a huge fee and the club is being mismanaged.

For what it's worth I've changed my view over the course of the season. At the start I even suggested that we might need to sell Bruno as he might not be a great fit for Amorim and that he wasn't the long term solution. I likened it to Liverpool selling Coutinho after Klopp joined. He didn't quite fit the system and the funds helped buy key players who did.
Yet now I'd say it makes more sense to keep him. I've seen how valuable he has become for Amorim. A key player who helps set the managers vision on the pitch. He has adapted his game and shown that he can do so and still put in top class performances. He has grown as a leader on the pitch, with some of the pettiness and rubbishhousery being cut out of his game. While he his experience is vital for what is becoming a much younger and inexperienced squad. His professionalism has never been in doubt, he trains hard, and is committed to the club. I think we lose vital things needed for the rebuild of this squad if we sell him, things that just cannot be replaced. For that reason I think it's best we keep him.

However, that's just my opinion. Ultimately this decision needs to be in the hands of the player. If he wants to move on and take the insane wages on offer then it will be the right time to part ways. I won't begrudge him that opportunity, nor will I hold it against him. I'd thank him for all he's given us and wish him well. Then move on and see how we can use the money to improve the squad. If his head is turned then there is no point in keeping him. Likewise, if he listens to the offer and decides "no thank you" then it reconfirms his dedication to us and proves he is the right man to captain us over the next few years.

I hope he stays as we are a far better team with him than without him.

07 May 2025 06:03:28
If he wants to go, let him go.

07 May 2025 06:59:03
I don’t think anyone heard Bruno say he wants to go to Saudi league, I don’t think anyone even seen any drop off in his standards that show he may want to leave…. So basically it’s just noise, even if the club like the sound of 100 million plus if he don’t want to go, he don’t go, I am not saying that if a RealMadrid was not looking for a Modric replacement he would not be straight on the plane and who could blame him, but I really can’t see at this stage of his career him going to Saudi, even at 30-31 he does more running then most of our players and certainly better than them all.

07 May 2025 08:39:36
The press is reporting a British record fee which would be north of £118m. Bruno turns 31 next season, with the issues at the club financially and from a playing staff standpoint we would be crazy to turn down the cash. Bruno’s original contract lapsed so his net book value doesn’t have any debt on it.

We have players coming to the end of their contracts that need replacing (Heaton, Evans, Eriksen and Lindelof) . Players that are likely to leave that need replacing (Malacia, Sancho, Rashford and Antony) hopefully we receive a decent fee for these players. Players that can’t be relied upon due to ongoing injury issues (Shaw, Mount, Martinez) and players that the club would like to replace (Onana and Casemiro) .

The above doesn’t event take into account that we are short on both sides of the fullback role, we desperately need another midfielder and an established striker.

Rangnick was right about needing open heart surgery, we have just left it 3 years and spent an incredible amount of money since he left poorly. Hopefully those days are over.

I personally think we sell, reinvest and rebuild.

07 May 2025 09:23:21
Redseven and if he doesn't want to go?

07 May 2025 11:07:36
I think the choice will be his. He obviously had a chance to make a Saudi move recently and approached the club to convince him or the direction and that they still wanted him, which they did. Maybe the same situation arises in the coming weeks.

07 May 2025 15:43:31
If he’d rather stay, then that’s good too.

07 May 2025 15:52:12
Hope he stays. The club will be able to buy and build without selling Bruno.

Sure if we sell Bruno, we have a few extra quid, but there is no guarantee we replace that quality. I'd rather build with him than without.

08 May 2025 17:50:06
I'm indifferent to be honest. That goes for any player in the squad. I doubt bruno wants to leave if he doesn't then that's good. We have other players to sell.
If he wants to go amd take a reported 65m tax free season i certainly wouldn't blame him. The free reported would be well received.
I think he will stay. I think he will want to stay.
I think the manager would sacrifice lots of others like garnacho and rashford or even mainoo before bruno.
We need to sell 100% profit players i think it will be rashford and at least 1 other. If we don't make cl then it will probably be rashford plus 2 others.

29 Apr 2025 11:15:21
Read today that Dan Gore welcomes a move away from Old Trafford and United would let him go for £1 million. Anyone think we should be trying to keep him? Gore has seemingly said he wants a step up from the under 21's/.

29 Apr 2025 13:21:53
Keep him for what?
He is destined for a decent career in the lower leagues. If he is lucky.

29 Apr 2025 13:57:24
Well look what happened to our squad player McTominay. Just thought he had potential? A lot thought Gomes had no chance and he has been called up for England.

29 Apr 2025 14:48:41
Can’t keep everyone in the hope they might come good…
Let’s be fair ETH got rid of better than he bought, so McT is not nothing to go by, tbh I would rather Mc T or Fred than Ugarte and use the money to be added for a striker, Fred could not pass the ball 20 yards, Ugarte can’t pass 10 yards and very slow and not mobile…
But we can’t just keep storing players in hope they may come good, even first teamers let alone under 21s….

29 Apr 2025 15:46:35
Charlton palmer got England caps that's no sign he is any good.
I think gomes is available on a free i wonder who will snap him up he has done OK at lille.
Dan gore has not done well in his loan spells.
Ugatre is miles better than Fred imo, but limited in his passing range but his possession stats out performing Fred consistently. Which is a low bar.
I think we have as big an issue for our 2 midfielders as we do strikers.
Cas collyer and ugarte are really not great options for 2 starting spots. Bruno has had to drop back there this season. We need 2 midfielder as much as a striker or keeper. The lack of control and creativity in midfield is poor.
Can't all be done in 1 window so it's not easy to prioritise when there are so many holes to fill.

29 Apr 2025 15:50:27
Can't help but feel that Gore has been over taken by other players in the picking order of younger players and his loan deals have not exactly worked out for a number of reasons.
I would expect we either give him another loan in the Championship with a view that this is final chance, increase value or can come back and fight for a place. Or, we decide it is better to sell and get him a move with either a sell on clause/ buy back option.

Unfortunately I think he will not get to the standard we need going forward.

29 Apr 2025 16:42:03
Sell him with sell on clause.

29 Apr 2025 18:08:49
I think he missed the boat unfortunately. He was highly rated but got injured at just the wrong moment. Who knows what might have happened if he didn't get injured.

Either way it's kind of irrelevant now, Mainoo and Collyer have over taken him, while likes of Kone, McAllister, Scanlon and Thwaites are also highly rated and might soon be ready to push towards the first team squad.

If Gore is to forge a good career inn football he needs to start playing at the senior level regularly. To do that he will likely need to leave on a permanent deal.

He won't the first highly rated youngster to leave and he won't be the last. Charlie Savage is now playing for Reading in League 1, and Zidane Iqbal for Utrecht in the Netherlands. Remember when they had that phenomenal pre-season and a couple of good cameos at the start of EtH's tenure?

Some step up, most don't. But as a club we tend to give them more of a chance than most.

It's probably time for Gore to move on for his own best interests. I'd wish him well and hope he has a great career.

29 Apr 2025 23:17:07
he's had 2 loans and only played 3 or 4 games. my mates a port vale fan, they had him last year and he said in 1 half of football you could tell he was mentally weak and wouldn't make it. Hid behind an injury. Rotherham manager alluded to the same this season, We have enough of them, let him go.

30 Apr 2025 06:43:39
Oh so his possession stats are better than Fred’s, is that the same stats you always say that a certain poster uses to mask the truth!
So if we are using stats that normally you don’t like, what about running stats, what about passing to your own player stats, let’s just forget he played for Brazil very well too, no one saying Fred was great but I would rather have him in my team and the money in the bank then Ugarte in my team!

30 Apr 2025 12:13:02
Fred was used in the wrong position here tho he was never a holding mid was more box to box till UTD signed him Ugartes not bad dosent exactly tear it up obvs just a typical ETH signing. Ye i'd have kept Fred and put that money towards a striker tho i'd not have touched strikers with scoring records of Hoijlund and Zirkzee with a bargepole in the first place 9 goals at Atalanta 72 million fee was insane i get potential but that's a 10/ 15 million punt at best which is what he's worth now. Can make a good start in 1 window tumble no wasting money on more defenders which imo ain't that bad tho we concede loads problems are from the traffic cones in front of the defense can't hold or progress the ball so easy to play thro UTD are slow amd weak on the ball Amos wingbacks can wait his 1st one Dorgus so far been nothing special.

30 Apr 2025 13:18:44
As we can see from the players that have come through this season, if he was good enough he would have got his chance .

01 May 2025 06:48:56
I’m not 100% sure, but I’m guessing someone isn’t a Ugarte fan.

01 May 2025 11:48:56
TBH I am not a fan of one ETH signing, For the life of me can’t understand one of them signings, must have been an ulterior motive, surely. but for me the worst got to be Antony, because he worked with him for years, so should have known him inside out and know not only he not worth 80 mil, but was never suited to the premier and should have also known the personal baggage he had, that shows a total lack of knowledge…
So no not a Ugarte fan either or the rest.

01 May 2025 12:28:20
I'd noticed.

01 May 2025 12:38:23
Sure, sell Gore.

I actually quite like Ugarte and Bruno as a midfield pairing. I think it gets the best out of Bruno.

I'd rather Utd buy a pair of 10s or a 10 and a RWB depending on where Amad plays.

Collyer did well and needs more games. Kone is coming through. Let's see what happens.

Up front and GK are the priorities. Midfield can wait another year

The only issue will be if Bruno leaves and TBH I wouldn't blame him. Then Utd really are in trouble.

01 May 2025 13:42:15
I must admit i expected a lot more from Ugarte and i agree with Germansuppclub he is slow and gets caught on the ball a lot but unfortunately i think that he is currently best option we have to play that role.
We are not as open as we were earlier this season but that midfield is a real weak link in the United team. They way teams cut through us sometimes is mind boggling Lyon did it with 10 men in the last round.

05 May 2025 08:11:15
Ugarte isn't a problem, he's been good without being great so far. But then I think a lot of that is down to his midfield partner.

Amorim's system uses a double pivot in midfield, and he doesn't want his wingbacks to invert into midfield. That means the midfield can be outnumbered by a side that plays with a midfield three.

The solution to this is twofold. Firstly, the inside forwards need to stay narrower and press very effectively but also understand where they need to position themselves to cut off passing lanes centrally. At United this has been difficult at times when Garnacho for example who isn't a natural when it comes to off the ball movement is playing. Bruno two at times has a tendency to press relentlessly but that does mean he vacates space that can be used by the opposition to get the ball into midfield.
Secondly, Amorim tends to use a very energetic and mobile midfield double pivot. They don't tend to be expansive passers, but players with a great engine and understanding of space. They work together and with the inside forwards to cut off passing lanes centrally forcing the opposition to go down the flanks. Again so far at United Amorim has struggled to find the right partner for Ugarte. Particularly in the more physically demanding EPL. In Europe Casemiro has been able to partner Ugarte effectively, but he doesn't have the stamina or mobility to do so in the EPL.

To be honest Bruno has probably been Ugarte's best partner in the EPL, even though he has a tendency to over commit himself at times which has left us open.

Mainoo is a phenomenal talent, but he lacks both the athleticism and the reading of the game currently to fullfil this role in Amorim's system effectively and consistently. Which is why Amorim has preferred to play him further forward, while he develops at least.

Eriksen is obviously not a great fit and we have been at our poorest when he has played deeper. Maybe if Mount was able to stay fit he might be a good partner for Ugarte.

We've been linked with Ederson from Atalanta who looks an ideal fit, energetic, mobile, technically strong and relentless.

While if we were able to bring in a player like Cunha and/ or Mbeumo then we would have the right sort of player to play ahead of and work with the double pivot to force teams wide to try and progress the ball.

I don't think Ugarte is a problem, he just cannot transform the midfield by himself.

05 May 2025 10:26:49
Far too sensible an answer shappy.