05 Oct 2020 22:10:08
Update. No deals for CB. De laurentis sporting director only one to show moderte interest but an unattractive deal structure.

Expect a move for upamecano IF and only if we put leipzig out of UCL before Jan window.

Told there may be 2 deals done in Jan, especially if CV keeps fans away until then.


1.) 05 Oct 2020
05 Oct 2020 22:23:01
God, let us get over this window first will ya.


2.) 05 Oct 2020
05 Oct 2020 22:34:55
WelshRedDevil. Sorry mate. Tried posting earlier that attempts were made as soon as it was clear Smalling deal would be done, to get a CB befofe deadline, 1. Upamwcano, 2. Skriniar (stupid, they knew terms already due to Tottenhams interest, then 3. Koulibaly) . Told the 2 and 3 were just deadline day if you don't ask you never know enquiries and were not hopeful. The offer for upamecano wasnt bad at all, though their loan and mandatory purchase wasnt well received given our group games in UCL.

However, the other player we will make an offer for in Jan is not o ly one some have craved in DM previously, but will be a massive upgrade on Fred and Matic, and has played 3 other positions for his currebt club. He's a proper player. Theayreq saving the Sancho money for Jan, if Dortmund get knockead out ofa UCL they MAY, only may, make another offer, but tactically have moved on until next summer. Out of interest, execs have laughed off the idea Sancho will be in higher demand next season. They expect CV to devastate transfer budgets as the crisis drags on until next summer. This despite projecting their own revenues to be down by £115m this financial year.


3.) 05 Oct 2020
05 Oct 2020 22:56:52
Where is this update comes from guys?


4.) 05 Oct 2020
05 Oct 2020 23:12:02
Cheshire the player to refer to is Saul and it is exciting. Give us more details.


5.) 06 Oct 2020
05 Oct 2020 23:55:11
Hi Herrera. Yes its Saul. (Could have been SMS don't forget) . The source is an ex Utd player still employed by the club. Doesn't mean they will definitely get him, but the intent is to exploit the damage of CV through the winter in Spain and Germany as 2nd and 3rd waves come and create big damage to revenues. Utd actually used the strengths of the board for a change and their experience in economic risks and their contacts in investment banking and Government to forecast that the pain clubs will be in come January will see some vulnerable to selling. The expectation is no vaccine until next summer and a very damaging aborted attempt to bring fans back late November which will ramp up pressure on clubs with less commercial revenues outaide of ticket, matchday and merchandise sales. My personal opinion? Heard similar before in the window we didn't sign Mourinhos wanted transfers and those Jan transfers didn't happen, so it may be internal hot air designed to keep spirits high amongst the coaching staff. I think the CB will happen but I am doubtful the stars will align for Saul. Financially yes they might be in deep doodoo, but the Partey deal wasnt done at that point, which gives AM instant £45m cashflow, so unless they go out of UCL in group stages I just don't see the logic for Saul or AM to cash in before summer if at all.


6.) 06 Oct 2020
05 Oct 2020 23:59:51
Its all balony. Why woukd we wait till smalling was going to try get a cb when we knew all window he wanted to leave?

The club don't have a plan hence the cavani purxhase and low balling for sancho fully knowing what they wanted

Pathetic, sick of the excuses now. No ambition to get back to the top.


7.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 00:20:31
Cheshire i didn't want details, only that the update is from you, i believe you anyway, you have no reason to lie. I appreciate that you gave a detailed update but that seems bad. I mean the thing about vaccine, I thought we would have it until December.


8.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 01:33:50
Bolger

All clubs do business differently, Chelsea bought first, expecting Rudiger and Palmieri to go, for example, that didn't happen. Utd operate on the basis they don't take chances on incoming until outgoings are solid. i'm as frustrated as you are but they got Telles for £7m less than Porto demanded and they got £7m more than Roma were offering even this Saturday for smalling. can't magic money out of nowhere whilst there isn't the ability to generate more revenues and lossea are mounting. that's £14m.

They also offered £100m total for Sancho, during a C.V. He's Dortmunds player, ita their choice but to buckle? Well they'd still have been vilified.

At least they showed walk away, plus they didn't settle for anything less than a sensible plan, loan deal that didn't come off. Ask any multi millionaire, the balls to walk away after taking every chance to do a deal is always better than a deal you regret, not just in isolation but for the precedent it sets.

Cant complain in the same breath that we alwaya end up stumping up or settling for low ball offers for pur own players and then when we do the exact opposite we still moan because we changed the rhetoric.

Ive said beforebwe have waloed qway from 7 bad deals in the last 4 windows. Yet no one noticed because its easier to just be negative, and the media fuels the hysteria. Careful analysis shows far more resilience.

I don't see anyone slagging Liverpool. off for lowballing aouthampton, then not only grovelling but also stumping up £75m (£15m more than they could have had Van Dyke for) . The difference being Van Dyke shoawd incredible quakity afterwards, whereas Slabhead hasn't. that's as much luck than judgment. What if Klopp had got Draxler ibstead of Mane or Brandt instead of Salah, both his 1st cboices missed and ebded up with 2nd and 3ed chpice respectively. Lick will always play a part in any recruitment.

Jve hired some worldies on paper who turnwd out couldn't run a bath and had no common sense and also found diamonds in lower ranks who are now trusted right hand men and women, but not intentional, just pure luck. All were unintentionally good or bad and not as planned.

All I am saying is there is no direct correlation between getting first choice signings and guaranteed success. don't you remember Batistuta, Salas, Kleivert, Gattuso, Verane, Gascoigne, Beardsley, Barnes, Shearer etc during Fergie years.

If we had signed Ronaldinho who literally didn't get on a plane we wouldn't have signed Ronaldo. I still remember the slating Fergie and the board got for letting that slip. Yet it just shows the randomness of the market, and all that can go wrong or right without intent.

Easy to forget the ones we lost when we were aucceasful, but very little has changed over the decades with transfers, other than the ridiculous power of agents largely thanks to the Bosman ruling.

As for your comments Herrera, I agree its bad, and especially after Ole apologised for using the word exploit prior to the window. what's going on in the world is a terrible tragedy and to be thinking of that approach does seem to be an alternative view to what was very good corporate behaviour during the early stages of CV by the club that is long forgotten, as was Wpodwards very early comments it wohkdnt be a normal window and 6 figure deals just were not realsitic.

How many on here as readers or posters can honwstly say that if he had walked away from Sancho early on, they would have applauded? Wohkd have said well doen for sticking to the plan of the man we want or nobody?

Even now when we could have easily signed Dembele or Sarr, or even Coman on owrmanent deals but only wanted a loan as we intend to atick to our original plan, where is thr praise or recognition for changed behaviours and a stronger identity that we won't overpay and we won't sell cheap either?

Romeros wife going nuts is the atory you heard, but did you actually hear the offer from Everton? Because they took the piss at the last minute and underestimated our resolve to change the identity of Utd in the transfer market. didn't you see ancelotti swearing blind they had no interest in a Romero last Saturday? Just to make an offer that was so bad, they paid more for a poor keeper from Roma who is nowehere near Romero standard. Watch that bite him in the arse later in the season.

So, would we criticise Utd if they weren't ruthless either? I tend to think I might. Its the way of business, whatever your business. Some win some lose in every scenario.

Not Utd to blame that the vaccine won't be around in anywhere near decent numbers until spring and its already known that antibodies last a maximum of 3 months, so this virus will be around for at least 2 more years before a vaccine that truly prevents rather than postpone is found, or at best expect to be vaccinated every 8 weeks.

Its going to get massively worse before there is light at the end of the tunnel. You can take that as absolute 100% nailed on fact. that's not a rumour, I am the source of that info. Directly. It's going to be a very difficult year at least untik same time in 2021, so try and be positive, what is to come is to come, so either decide to enjoy it, or decide to hate it, either way the same future is coming, just deoends how we choose to receive it and respond to it.

Que sera sera as we famously sing perhaps without really meaning it.


9.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 07:02:20
CheshireRed

I think you make a lot of valid points. However I have to disagree in the way we have handled Romero. Both on the field and off it we haven't don't justice to him. We should have facilitated a move away for him days and weeks ago once it became clear that both DDG and Deano were going to stay with us. If not a permanent move than at least a lab for him.

WE ARE BASICALLY ENDING HIS INTERNATIONAL CAREER BY KEEPING HIM AS THIRD CHOICE.

For the way he has carried himself and performed for us without ever letting us down, we have acted as classless selfish d! ckheads. And I don't think anyone can argue with that. On top of that we are keeping a player to not even be on the bench on a huge wage relative for GKs.

I hope we can find Romero a move away to countries with the transfer window still open (like Russia) . I feel disgusted at the lack of class and gratitude shown towards him by our club.


10.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 07:09:15
*at least a loan for him

Bloody autocorrect.

{Ed047's Note - I thought it was odd offering him a dog! 😏🤣


11.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 07:29:41
I am surprised you are here in the early hours already Ed047. I thought you would be Parteying away whole day today😂.

{Ed047's Note - 🤣 I’m waiting to see him play before I get overly excited but Tris does give me hope he’s going to be class!


12.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 07:34:46
Cheshire, disagree regarding Romero.
What is the point of paying him nearly 100k a week when he is third choice and never going to play.


13.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 08:37:01
I don't know how anyone can defend our handling of Romero.


14.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 09:08:14
ED047, no pressure on ED001 there then lol.

{Ed047's Note - 🤣 he works best under pressure mate! That’s if we can get him to do any. 🤦‍♂️🤣


15.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 09:20:23
No worries Cheshire, was only messing, nice to hear info.


16.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 09:39:35
Ed047
That is exactly why he writes the daily review first thing in the morning. 😜.

{Ed047's Note - yep and then straight back to bed mate! 🥱😴🤣


17.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 10:40:16
Lads, Romero isn't doing all this for free. He's been handsomely rewarded for playing a few games here and there, hardly a slave. The club doesn't owe him anything. No other club came up with a decent offer for him, and after all the moaning I see on here about Utd getting their pants pulled down by other teams with regard to transfers, then that's fair enough for me. Hardly treating him in a disgusting manner.


18.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 11:30:08
Nou, it's quite clear he's been fed lies.

From being our cup goalkeeper only to be dropped in the latter stages, to being told he can move.

The club have absolutely no reason to keep hold of him.

Like you say, he's paid handsomely, so why not get those wages off the books for a 3rd choice who will likely make no senior appearances this season?


19.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 13:14:53
Fantastic post Cheshire.


20.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 11:42:48
Interesting post CheshireRed. Thanks.


21.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 11:45:09
But for the typos that was an interesting read Cheshire.


22.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 13:31:09
Noucamp. We do owe him something. All employers owe their staff something. Horrible statement.
All empires deserve to be treated with respect and with dignity.
He feels he has not been. If any employee feels like that in any company and can prove it then the company will be held accountable.
As an employer united do owe all employees something.
What is the world coming to if people think paying someone ends the responsibility to employees.


23.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 14:05:28
spot on ken.

he should have been allowed to move when henderson signed his contract,

rom always acts professional and he's to good of a keeper to be 3rd choice.


24.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 14:28:34
I thought they were only transient employees to you, Ken? And how do you know what Romero thinks about the whole thing? He might be happy enough, you've no idea. And no lectures on horrible comments about employees, please - I seem to remember a pretty nasty comment to Tony when he'd lost his job.


25.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 14:46:43
Sorry Cheshire. I think you been playing Football Manager. Do you honestly think the Glazers, Ed and Co will invest their money into the club. If we sell someone then maybe but they can't even do that properly.

No chance. It be the same old same, we tried but they were demanding too much money for him.


26.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 14:46:09
Interesting posts, Cheshire. Good read that.


27.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 15:04:27
Find it. no nasty comment from me noucamp towards ajh. He is also not my employee
All employees are transient but have rights and employees have a responsibility towards them.
He is not happy if you have read the comments attributed to his wife and agent.


28.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 15:05:16
Find the nasty comment noucamp please.


29.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 15:16:21
I don't know how to search, but it was along the lines of basically dry your eyes. You can ask him - he didn't think too much of it at the time, as did a few of us. I'm sure he'll remember.


30.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 15:16:30
Whats he not happy about? He signed a contract.


31.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 15:43:24
You don't know how to search? 😂😂 try the search function at the top of the page. I didn't post any such thing. But sure you just make stuff up if it suits you. Absolute thrash.


32.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 16:20:10
Aye, I must have imagined it, Ken. Tony must have as well. Silly me. I don't know why I would have thought something like that, especially when you're usually such a polite, pleasant poster, and in no way belligerent whatsoever 😂.


33.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 16:36:09
The sexual tension between ken and Noucamp99 is too much for this page to handle🤣. You guys should get a room😂😉.


34.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 16:55:25
I can be very belligerent at times Stephen. No mite than your Good self
But don't accuse me of words i didn't use.


35.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 16:58:14
When you're married as long as I am Deeps, and hitting 50, beggars can't be choosers 😂.


36.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 17:14:45
My view of Romero? Its a business. I totally agree about obligations to look after employees, and also their commitment to employers. But that's exactly the point.

Footballers get rights that most people, especially during this time in the world, can only dream of, not ONLY financially, but stability and contractually. Having a contract, that neither party can break? So the club have to pay wages to those they know they want to move on.

But frankly, when I compare their 'employee' situation as players, I have little sympathy compared to the the rest of society, with millions losing their jobs. Their future was 100% safe. Almost exclusively across any industry.

But I really do also sympathise deeply with clubs. Not just Utd but all clubs. Saddled with no choice but to keep their most expensive people no matter whether fit for work or otherwise, or even who have proven to be rubbish value for money and you prefer tonget rid, but saddled with your mistake or a change in direction that makes them unsuitable for the future.

That despite your revenues being absolutely decimated. Loyalty cuts both ways if we want to see the employee as a victim in isolation, almost villifying the club for enslaving them? Come on, pull the other one its got bells on it. Do me a favou4.

If this so called 'loyalty' and integrity cuts both ways, were they supporting YOUR club with integrity by saying we are all in this together, let's share the pain, here's 30 or 40% of my wages back? Just because Utd didn't ask is irrelevant. That was a conscious ethical decision of a business, so don't try telling me know we gave people a rough ride.

The club were very clear that they no longer wanted some players and were happy for them to leave. That doesn't mean freeing a slave as some are moulding the rhetoric. It means if the terms are met.

We were clear from February that the club wanted €20m for Dmalling agfer originally expecting €25m. But we were not going to sell him cheap as an asset that conversely was still being paid part of his wage by Utd.

So lwt me pose a question. You own a car. And buy a new one

You still have to tax, MOT and insure as well as pay for the car on finance youve borrowed. Even if youve finished paying, it has a value

Someone comes and says well it work £6k but we will give you £1.8k because you don't need it, you will rarely drive it. How many woukd take the offer? Even if you knew you mjght wait 11 weeks and then have a chance to trst the market again. More context.

You're actually a dealer in cars with only specific time to sell. You know you have to balance your books and no one is paying proper money for cars. Do you take any silly offer? Knowibg that the sale would be public and would create an expectation amongst other buyers that your assets vould be bought for a thirs of their price? Would you really sell? No matter what the commercial logic?

The situation with Romero was, he was priced to sell, no one came close. 3 teams were interested but went elsewhere. Is that Utd to blame?

So he now gets to stay on his huge salary when going elsewhere required him to take a huge drop? I have sympathy for many people during this C.V. from all walks of life, but to claim footballers in any situation have had a rough ride is frankly ridiculous and as for Mrs Romero?

She is lucky people are less switched on to reality than a few hundred years ago in France, because how her comments haven't been interpreted as being the Marie Antoinette of Manchester and keyboard warrioring let them eat cake is frankly beyond me.

Perhaps she should take a trip out with Marcus to a local food bank before she reiterates how terribky her husband is being treated right now!


37.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 18:41:12
Another good post, Cheshire. You should post more often, mate. You might have Shaps and DLIB worried, tho, with the length of your posts.


38.) 06 Oct 2020
06 Oct 2020 19:29:54
Cheshire red couple of interesting post there.


39.) 07 Oct 2020
07 Oct 2020 14:24:00
I am only offering an alternative opinion on the non emotional commercial realities. I cannot stand social media because of the hysteria.

I love reading posts here because even the negatives, you know come from the right sense of desire and shared view we want our team to succeed and to be Champions.

But here is the reality. Utd have not cut jobs in ANY area of the club, even match day despite ZERO revenues. Do we not care about those employees, who cost almost £40m a year? Are they not a part of us? They have donated millions to local communities, OUR communities.

And all I hear is champagne socialists like Gary Neville talking rubbish about the one piece of business we didn't do. I notice he doesn't slag managers off anymore after being one. Perhaps he should be try being the Chairman or a director of an entity as massive as Utd before he claims the high ground. Really bugs me.

Some commercial realities would be more constructive. We are literally playing into our competitors hands by dragging down the enthusiasm, belief and respect for ourselves. At this stage we seriosuly risk being Liverpool of the 90s, noughties and 10s!


40.) 08 Oct 2020
08 Oct 2020 00:34:19
I'm amazed that decent offers didn't materialise for a keeper of Romero's quality and experience. It might actually work out better for him and the club for others to understand that if they want him they have to make better offers to both parties. Good luck to the guy but business is business and I don't feel too sorry for him in his gilded cage.


41.) 08 Oct 2020
08 Oct 2020 14:37:11
Cheshire because i didn't understand this. Did we donated millions to local communities as a club? Because that's fantastic and that's what i want for my club. I want to stand with employees and community . Arsenal buyed a fantastic player in Partey for a lot of money and the same day wanted to fire the mascot i think. I would prefer to fire none and to stand with our people (employees) and community even if that costs us a transfer. That would make me very proud and no player can make me feel so happy.


42.) 09 Oct 2020
08 Oct 2020 23:44:27
Herrera. Yes we did.

We cane out in early March with a £1m donation to the NHS fund. We also made all our infrastructure available to the Government and NHS. Our medical facilities were used by NHS rught upto reintroducing football again and throughout the summer.

We didn't furlough staff, made further contributions of £4m through the foundation, set up sports clubs for parents who wanted to work for their kids to attend, we fed them and in many cases clothed them for those who had no kits.

Our non furloughed staff were deployed to support local charities, foodbanks and made drops for people who were vulnerable.

Our facilities and maintenance staff supported revising some public builds and offer logistics supoort for setting up NHS Nightingale Manchester.

None of this was reported, firstly because we didn't blast it all over social media, but it was known by the local authorities throughout GM, Salford and Trafford. But also because that wasnt the point, it was just to be nice and make use of resources we were not using ourselves.

The main reason you didn't hear? Well, how many media outlets do you know make their ratings through good news?


43.) 09 Oct 2020
09 Oct 2020 00:11:39
did we not get romero on a free.


44.) 09 Oct 2020
09 Oct 2020 01:36:49
Cheshire thanks you took time to replay, i appreciate that. I am very proud for my team.
Everyone has his own opinion but i always believed that Glazers aren't the devils some people think they are. They are just businessmen but i think in comparison to others they are more human and they showed us again, i think some years ago they refused to sell stadiums name to coca cola too rejecting hundreds of millions.
I have the same opinion for Woodward too. I have sympathy for him, its not his money to spend, he is not the one to deside which player to buy and he is not the one negotiating the transfers. Yet people turn to him every time a transfer falls. They always want someone to blame and because of his "stupid" face and that he is the one we see more often he is the easy target.
I think Woody makes a lot of mistakes and the first one is that he doesn't hire football people to run our football part, he is showing some arrogance. But i think he always had big plans for the team.
People blamed him for the "we can make thing in the transfer market etc", he had no reason to do this and maybe costs us because teams knew we had bid pocket but that showed a will, intentions. And i always believed that he has the intention to make us big again and i always believed that he entertains a marquee sighning more than fans because of his love for the team and his arrogance. I don't think he likes to be our failed vise president who can't close the deals as people day. And these words weren't empty words, we broke so many transfer records after that and my unpopular opinion is that, until some time ago, we weren't pinny pinching but instead we were happy to pay whatever it takes to bring good players and big names. that's what we tried to change in last 2-3 windows.
Personally the club (including Woodward) makes me happy and proud, especially after your comments. I only wish they hire a top director of football and give him the free run to make us a football force again because no matter how i like Woodward and co (at least i don't have any problem and don't blame him even for the weather 😂) they must make some good footballing desicions. Cheers.


45.) 09 Oct 2020
09 Oct 2020 21:12:56
I am not an in the know as such but I do work in sports conferencing and hear things from people associated with United and other clubs now and again. In terms of United I can share here some things that might surprise people a bit based on some conversations I’ve been around. It won’t be liked but I think it should be said.

The recent stories about the dressing room problems are true, but not in their detail. You’ll notice the constant interviews and chats with Ole and people associated with the club Where they talk about the need for characters in the club. We have a big problem with that and it’s not the people you would necessarily expect. Pogba has caused issues with his on off determination to leave the club and his lack of performances on the pitch but it’s actually Rashford who’s causing big problems.

Apparently with the emergence of Greenwood he’s not happy, and constantly threatens to leave unless he’s the number 9. Greenwood says the same. Rashford has painted a very good picture of himself in the media with his fighting for vulnerable kids campaign but it’s run entirely by his new off the field agents roknation. It apparently annoys a lot of the players as although it’s a good cause it’s thought that he’s pretty disingenuous in using the clubs profile to create a Public image for himself and uses it as leverage to force the clubs hand into giving him what he wants. It’s widely acknowledged that he wasn’t actually injured during the last international break that he wasn’t actually injured but pulled out due to Greenwood being called up as Kane’s deputy. We saw that he doubled down on his campaigning instead.

There are also problems with getting Greenwood to apply himself in training and apparently there is a maturity problem too.

Rashford doesn’t get on well with Greenwood or Martial.

I can’t remember which game it was personally but there was a game towards the end of last season where Martial and Greenwood combined really well for Greenwood to score. The camera panned across to Ole and he was absolutely furious in his seat. Why? Because Rashford turned his back and looked disappointed when the two of them scored this great goal (look at the replay of the goal it’s a really good insight into the environment) . Anyway, PSG we’re suggesting to Rashford that he could replace Mbappe at the head of their front three if Mbappe moves to Real Madrid and apparently due to the fuss this situation is creating we’ve agreed with Rashford that we’ll allow that next year. The club are angry because they feel Martial is clearly showing he’s the better number 9 and that PSG should prioritise him over Rashford, especially given he’s French and Parisian, but PSG see the situation in taking Rashford as a way to weaken Uniteds identity of focusing on younger local players.

There seems to be a resignation within the club that we can’t keep both Greenwood and Rashford happy given they both want to be the 9. There’s wide spread agreement that Rashford is better as a wide forward both from the club and in the England set up but he can’t stand the idea of not being the point man.

You’ll have noticed many interviews (BT sport
YouTube FYI ( with past players ie the Co92 with Rashford to try and massage the situation but they’re all very angry with him about the way he’s behaving and you can sort of pick up on it in those interviews.

Anyway, nothing in the future is set in stone so I guess we’ll wait and see.

{Ed025's Note - a very interesting read that prodigal, i dont know how true it is of course but i will be certainly keeping my eye on it mate..


46.) 09 Oct 2020
09 Oct 2020 22:22:50
I believe this . Maybe i wanted too because i believe the same. Rashford playing like someone killed his mother, no joy at all, not the same passion. I noticed against Tottenham a highlight (we had only 3-4 half decent chances so its easy to remember) which Rashford passed to Greenwood and although the better and obvious choice was to play one two, Mason desided to make a bad shoot outside the box. There is an attitude problem, i don't and i can't know the details but there is a problem.


47.) 09 Oct 2020
09 Oct 2020 22:32:43
Prodigal maybe you mean against Ham. Because it was a wonderfull goal that Mason and Martial compined and Greenwood scored.


48.) 10 Oct 2020
09 Oct 2020 23:20:03
Yeah ithey called it hearsay about Rashford and Greenwood but you can clearly see it now when you look back. Though as you pointed out from the Tottenham match it seems like Greenwood could now be the one acting out against Rashford, on the pitch at least. You have to feel that this wouldn’t happen if we had more proper leaders on the pitch like Keane, Robbo etc.


49.) 10 Oct 2020
10 Oct 2020 11:23:13
Really interesting post prodigal. Quite sad to read. I suppose we all like to imagine that the squad are all best mates and likeable people but that's not how real life works. Shame they can't jointly appreciate their success on the pitch though.