05 Nov 2020 22:54:36
Bielsa, Blanc (I mentioned both on here a couple of years ago), Allegri, Pocchetino. In that order of preference for me. I think Solskaer will be gone by cob on Monday. Hopefully some owners with more of a connection with the club will come in after realising that this season would be a great time to buy the club some how due to lower revenue etc.

1.) 05 Nov 2020
05 Nov 2020 23:21:58
I doubt Bielsa would leave Leeds to join Utd.

2.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 00:16:08
if any decent manager looks at the last eight years he might say i do not need the crap of how this clubs run. and look for something else.

{Ed0666's Note - we discuss exactly the same thing in the latest podcast that’s out tommorow daz

3.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 06:36:22
If Blanc is seen as an answer then I am very worried indeed and I would be very against that appointment

I said on here before I like Simeone, maybe seen as too defensive but my goodness me he gets the players playing for him. Allegri, Poch is more likely and Poch does seem to have support at United. Even Antonio Conte is not a bad shout, then there is the likes of the Wolves manager, the Ajax incumbent, Nagelsmann, despite the result the other day you could see the structure and pattern he set. Then we move on to other managers who are better than Ole, however, I start work in a couple of hours so don’t have enough time to list them and that is ignoring the other Premier League and Championship, League One managers who would also be an improvement.

If Ole is replaced it looks like Poch and it would be a good choice, perhaps there may be better who have won something but I hope the board make the decision on Ole this weekend, regardless of result and move forward decisively. If it is Poch then I will look forward to that. If it was Blanc I would hang my head like when Moyes was appointed.

4.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 06:53:16
RedMan, Simeone should have done much better against a declining Madrid and Barca.
At times his football is just too defensive.
I don't see him as the right fit.

The outright choices are Poch and Allegri.

Poch hasn't won any trophies yet, but made Spurs a stable top 4 side with good style of football.
He also achieved 86 points with Spurs an year before he was sacked which would have been enough to win 10 of the last 20 EPL titles.

Just wondering with a better squad depth and increased transfer budget, if he would have us challenging for the title.

5.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 07:02:07
TrueRedDevil

Barca and Madrid had prime Messi and Ronaldo until very recently

If the club think Poch is right, then stop dithering, if they dither because of emotional sentimentality and Poch goes elsewhere that is pure incompetence.

6.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 10:13:50
Red Man, I think Simeone would be a very poor appointment. No doubt he did well with Atletico to win a title with them back in 2014.

Yet he hasn't really been able to mount a title challenge since.

I would have several concerns over his appointment. He doesn't speak English which would be a problem. His reluctance to leave Atletico even though he knows they can't really challenge for the title makes me wonder whether he has the ambition to win titles or whether he is just comfortable where he is and is happy to plod along. His tactics are very Mourinho-esqe, sit deep and compact, win all your battles and focus on scoring at set-pieces. We have seen that work well at Atletico with players of a certain mind-set and a certain skill-set. But when Atletico have bought more creative, expansive players they have failed to adapt/ fit in to they system and Simeone has been reluctant to adjust his system to help for them in. Look at the money they spent on João Felix and how he has struggled.

Looking at our squad both in terms of mentality and ability and I don't see many of any of our players who fit Simeone's requirements. So we would need to replace most of the squad.

Good manager, just a really poor fit for our club.

You do have a thing for defensive, aggressive cagey managers though Red Man. You have a clear type. Mourinho, Conte, Simeone.

Personally I don't think a change in manager will yield hugely different results. They will still have a squad that is more potential than proven quality, they will still have to move on a few players who aren't the right fit and bring in a few who are. They will still have to try and do that with a board who refuse to sell certain players for economic reasons, while they will either buy "off brand" alternatives to the managers first choice signings or not sign anyone at all. Then the football will regress after a short "false dawn" and the fans will become frustrated, discontent will grow and then that manager will be sacked and the cycle will start again.

The only way we as fans have any chance of breaking the cycle (and it is a slim chance at best) is if instead of turning on the manager we back the manager and turn on the board. Put pressure on them to make real changes. But the chances of that happening are marginal at best, as we have shown as a fan base we turn on ourselves, we can't agree on much at all, and ironically we are not a united fan base.

7.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 10:57:40
We would have a squad that is more potential than proven quality with a better manager that could coach them properly to realise that potential.

8.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 11:22:56
good post on simone shappy. i thik him and allegri both to defence minded. poch i don't know seems to be able to go to a certain point and then gets stuck. with more finances could he take the next step and win silverware.

9.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 11:26:56
Maybe Bilko, if you believe that the club know enough about football and coaching to hire ayoung players coach who can deliver that coaching.

Lots of people rave about Pochettino improving young players. While he definitely gave them a chance in the team, how many have dramatically improved over 3-4 seasons with him? Kane had already started smashing goals in before Pochettino arrived. Dele Alli, Harry Winks and Eric Dier started well but never kicked on. Which are the other youngsters he actually developed?

Spurs technical ability decreased the longer he was at the club. While most of his signings were terrible.

So Pochettino is the favourite for the job, he has won nothing in his career, has spent money poorly, not really developed young players, and has a history of chocking when he gets near silverware.

If not Pochettino then who else will the club turn to? Many top names are either already at a club or its questionable whether they would want to take a job at United in our current state.

Allegri is unlikely I would imagine after the club messed him around. Blanc is out of a job and available and might consider it. Giggs looks like he would be out of the job and seems a likely option the club would turn to. Attempt to keep fans onside by replacing a sacked club legend with another club legend.

If the same people who put Ole in charge in the first place are the same people who'll hire his replacement, then what confidence do you have in them appointing the right candidate?

10.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 13:02:13
Shappy

You call on people to back the manager and turn on the board. Do you live on fantasy island? Back a good manager but not the failed Cardiff standard one. You think the board will change with criticism from fans? No. The only way is if revenue drops dramatically and it becomes a struggle to pay dividends, we might get an ownership change that heralds a board with different direction. Giggs sounds more like Shappys project fear than reality. Stick with Ole or end up with Giggs. Oh dear.

11.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 13:26:49
I would add the club need to do what they should have done after Mourinho. Conduct a review set aspects of exactly what they are looking for, what is expected, the direction, the plan they want and start from there, see who fits best, who can deliver it, instead of jumping to the next one. One thing I will say is that Woodward only has so many lives and needs the next one to work. Whether they are capable of that review is another thing but there are many where the answer is better than what we have

How anyone can review the worlds managers and come up with sticking with Ole, or going for Blanc or Giggs is beyond me.

12.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 13:38:57
To be fair Red Man I don't think anything will make a difference. The club will do what they will do.

As fans we don't get to pick the manager, we don't get to pick the team, we don't get to pick the tactics and we don't get to pick who the club buys and sells.

We get to have an opinion on all of it and we get to watch it. That's it.

However, football manager, FIFA, PES fantasy football and the general media all have us thinking we know best. We are all football experts.

We don't get a say, simple as. We can kick off and stamp our feet and maybe, maybe we can force a manager out if the form is bad enough and it ticks the financial boxes. But then don't get to pick the next manager.

Giggs is as likely as anyone else, while he is more likely than most. At one point the club were grooming him at one point.

13.) 06 Nov 2020
06 Nov 2020 14:44:02
Sentimentality is the reason. Afraid of backlash from the fans so let's go for the safe option. Give it to a former club player who believes playing under Sir Alex automatically qualifies them to do things the United Way. It's my opinion and I don't expect anyone to agree with me but I will say it again. The United Way left with Sir Alex and he is the only one who knew how to implement it. Hiring a new manager and expecting him to do things like Sir Alex is a recipe for disaster. Managing the club is difficult enough. The expectations of them playing like United teams under Sir Alex just exacerbates the problem. They should be allowed to implement their own style and philosophy to achieve the free flowing attacking football that majority of fans want.

14.) 07 Nov 2020
07 Nov 2020 15:57:54
I don't have any in depth knowledge of foreign coaches what I would like to see is a manager who is brave, plays entertaining football and you can see what he's working towards.

I have no idea if the current players could play a high press entertaining brave brand of football but I'd atleast enjoy watching them try and see what the end aim is and the path forward he was looking to take.

I like nagelsmans approach even though we beat them well, I like poch aswell, he seemed to play attacking football, just a slight worry one or two of his recruitments weren't the greatest.

When fans turn on a manager dull football often contributes ole and jose good examples.

15.) 09 Nov 2020
08 Nov 2020 11:09:11
looking forward to it ed0666 love to hear the eds views.