1.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 08:10:52
Now come on Ed014, if Ole was such a world class act by winning with Molde, surely Ralf must be something. Afterall Shappy has been raving about him for quite sometime as his ideal move post Ole. I mention him as i recon his footballing studies are much better than mine.

{Ed014's Note - don’t get me wrong UA he could turn out to be exactly what you want but this is the Premier League, let’s see how he goes before all this messiah stuff.

2.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 08:12:46
AJH, Jose was working in Portugal, SAF was working in Scotland. Neither of them too big i think.

3.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 08:16:29
Chin up lads. I know ole has battered the life and soul out of us but I think Ralf will be what we need, more so the consultancy thing which basically means overseeing football matters. Think that’s a good move.

{Ed014's Note - it could well be WRD and certainly things read well on paper and he sure can’t be even close to as bad as Ole.

4.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 08:26:58
I don’t think Rangnick is just here as manager, he is here as a strategist for a restructure. It will not be an instant fix of the problems of the last 10 years and particularly the last three but it’s a start on the path back.

5.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 08:33:02
Which season was that Ed? Was Hassenhuttl not the manager then?

6.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 08:57:23
I agree with you Ed014. Just taking the proverbial mickey.

But this is the PL and hasn't worked in the PL before is such a cliche. Klopp, Pep, Jose, SAF, Tuchel, Conte among many others who hadnt worked in the PL but champions aren't they? I think us United fans are more excited about the period when Ralf moves upstairs rather than the 6 month interim period.

{Ed014's Note - I know mate and yes I agree, upstairs is really where you need him.

I was wrong about him in that season, he was manager the year before and got them promoted, Hassenhuttl then took them to 2nd before Ragnick returned and they then only finished 3rd.

Hopefully he will be able to improve the level of the squad which is still a fair way off the big boys and being ready to challenge.

7.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 09:09:29
Ed014 I think supporters have a little hope again and that's all it is a bit of excitement and that's a good thing after being kept so down over pat 2 years in particular when we had a regime that was dressing the club backwards.
I'm bit sure what this guy will achieve he has a huge task ahead.
But it appears to be a step in the right direction and that is a great thing for all supporters after what we have had to ensure under the worst manager we have had for 50 or 60 years.
We just have to wait and see what happens short and long term. But having hope is one of the key things any supporter can have for any team. We will know a lot more in 6 or 8 weeks time and at least the rest of the season will be worth watching even if it will be painful at times while he teaches the players his to act professionally again.

{Ed014's Note - I think the key will be in what he does when he moves upstairs and that you get the right guy in as manager next season.

Getting rid of Ole really is a blessing and you at least have a chance now for the board to finally get it right.

Still a fair bit of work to do on the squad which isn’t great but the right people will get that right. You have plenty of saleable assets to help that.

Longevity in the squad is an issue for me too.

If Ragnick is allowed to build from the bottom upwards that will also be huge.

It’s definitely the most promising decision those in charge have made since Fergie left and I hope now he has zero influence over decisions if that was the case and just sticks to being a fan.

8.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 09:28:52
Agree ed014.
People keep telling me it's a better squad than he took over I don't agree I see them s pretty equal.
Maguire Shaw and awb are 3 twist regular starters and I see them as ranging from pretty weak to awful.
Mctom Fred weak.
Pogba weak and in his way thankfully.
Martial no comment
Ronaldo 37 cavani 34
Jesse mata Jones dalot all gabs huge question marks over them.
But a better manager might develop a couple of them.

{Ed014's Note - definitely Ken, Ragnick has some quality to work with initially and the manager bounce will help but he seems like the kind of guy who will improve players simply by giving them a clear plan and some much needed coaching.

Something missing previously.

You have the financial muscle to make the improvements even though not instantly but I think there may now be more faith in getting that process right.

9.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 09:49:25
Agree pal. Let's hope so from our point of view.
A clear plan strategy and vision no business or team can survive without it.

10.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 10:11:47
If he can put out a team that looks like its been coached during the week and has a plan that'll do for me right now.

{Ed014's Note - let him get in the door first Bilko! ?

11.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 10:12:10
Ed014, Where did Arsenal get Wenger from again? Wasn't it that powerhouse footballing Mecca that is Japan?

Rangnick is considered a footballing visionary in the same mould. If he can be half as successful coming to United as Wenger was coming to Arsenal then I'll be very happy.

{Ed014's Note - Shappy isn’t Bielsa of the same mould, lauded by many including Pep.

It’s irrelevant where he comes from, he has to put it into practice and against 3 of the best out there right now.

There is nothing wrong with having some hope but as usual from minute one you are proclaiming the messiah. ?‍♂️

12.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 11:01:46
I think wenger was a lot younger and in the rise to be fair shappy so it's a ridicules comparison but ralf has not been hugely successful in his own right despite inspiring plenty of others.
He may be better upstairs than with players I don't know. But it all remains to be seen.
But we have hope and a plan and that's a great starting point.

13.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 10:58:36
Ed014, he's the manager for 6 months. I don't expect him to win the league or anything for that matter.

My hope is actually for what he could do away from the pitch. Looking at what he has achieved at RB Leipzig and Salzburg.

The structures he can put in place to being together a more cohesive transfer policy, an structure that supports and aids coaches and managers but isn't specifically set up for one individual.

He has a proven track record of making great decisions and improving clubs. The only concern is whether he'll be given enough power to make the changes we so clearly need. Or whether he'll face too much resistance from those who don't want to lose power, control or just don't want to lose face.

If given enough power and with the finances available to him I am very excited and hopefully about what he might create.

{Ed014's Note - which is pretty much what I’ve said elsewhere on here today Shappy.

It has all the potential to be a shrewd move and get you back on track.

14.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 11:19:28
The site is buzzing because there has been a change, United fans are excited but the Ed seems to want to bring everybody down and ridiculing people for being optimistic. It has been a miserable time to be a United fan and a miserable time to come on this page so maybe just allow us to be happy for a bit eh?

Ed001 who is actually well respected on here told us how good Ralf is and that it is actually the correct decision, I don't think I have seen anyone say we have made a correct decision for years, so you can understand why people are optimistic?

{Ed014's Note - you really are a bell end. Why don’t you read what I’ve actually written in most of my replies you absolute clown.

15.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 11:46:31
Ken, that's true but then Wenger was hired on a long term contract to work with the players on the pitch.

With Rangnick he has 6 months to get the measure of the club, the players and what needs doing from a managers perspective before he has (hopefully a lot of) input in to what the club needs to do to move forward.

While 6 months of too class coaching should hopefully sort the chaff from the wheat within our squad. While hopefully a few of the academy lads who might be suitable for the first team might get recognised and with a little luck a pathway for them created.

Maybe I'm expecting too much, but I have genuine hope that we might start to move forward as a progressive football club.

I've never thought the owners don't want us to be a successful football club, I just don't think they know how to set us up as one and stick too much to what they know, while not giving enough control to others or the right people to run the aspects they don't understand.

Certainly with the right people in the right positions and with the right decisions we can be a very successful side with the owners we have. My concern has always been whether the decision makers at the club had enough intelligence and self-awareness to hire the right people in the right roles.

16.) 26 Nov 2021
26 Nov 2021 12:09:45
Gds2 you really do try to push water up a hill. Read the posts and conversations.