07 Aug 2022 20:47:29
I wonder if any of the Directors are popping down to the local public house to discuss the shambles at the club tonight? Maybe the CFO will go and explain how we got to this under his watch.

I recall pointing out that the CFO talking about finances of a major plc down at the local over a pint was amateur and embarrassing, yet todays starting line up was equally amateur and embarrassing and that is mainly down to the board as well. We start the new season with McFred and no striker, so that just carries on the amateur approach to a major football club, amateur through all levels.

It's one game, yet there was no change in key areas, maybe ETH should have started young Iqbal instead of McT, or Fred, perhaps Garnacho instead of Rashford, however, it was more of the same, that assessment and decision making on McFred does merit questions.

Regardless of selection, the Directors should be utterly ashamed of this transfer window, yet ETH needs to wake up and quickly, to see this is not the Dutch league, that repeating the same mistakes of predecessors will get him the sack and maybe RR really did know what he was talking about. ETH should have new ideas, yet it's McFred.

How has a major, or once major football club started a season with the only strike force, a 37 year old who wants out and we are hanging on to the marketing tool like grim death. It's embarrassing, shambolic, and heads should roll for this. It embarrassed the new coach and makes it more difficult to persuade new players to come to the mess. Murtough and Arnold have embarrassed the club, they have until the window closes to show what they can do or should be sacked. But they won't, it's just an old boys club to print money for the owners. Let's see how much the owners make if nothing changes.

{Ed018's Note - well once a deal for Arnautovic is agreed it should guarantee a solid mid table finish}

1.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 20:57:48
It's a shambles redman from top to bottom. The same players same attitude. No drive in the team.
The Ronaldo saga. Running after the same player all summer long. A joke.
I mean give the manager some decent players off the transfer market to work with.
A load of average players on big wages and big contracts.
A clean slate my arse.
A bunch of amateurs.

2.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 21:01:16
Red man, but didn't Arnold have a few pints with a few fans once? What a guy eh?

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Rangnick knew what he was at and knows what he was faced with at this club. Call him a crap coach all you want (you obviously know plenty about coaching (yawn) ) but the football I watched today was just as bad if not worse than what was played under him - an interim coach who told a few home truths in the public.

Now, I am not blaming ETH for that at all, and I think he is a fine coach who has all the ability to turn it around. But when you look up above and see Arnold (Ed Woodward mark 2, Murtaugh (of Everton and Fulham success), Darren Fletcher (an ex-player who possibly once learned something at some point from Sir Alex) and other who's credentials I'd have to ferociously Google, we are an utter mess and have been for years.

They need to clean house up above and put people at the top of their profession in the driving seats to give ETH a real chance, although I would please ask him never to start McFred again.

3.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 21:02:49
Spot on Red Man.

4.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 21:09:06
Agree with all of that. One positive today is that at least they didn’t lull us into a false sense of security like last season. Nope straight back to being crap and miserable ?.

5.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 21:29:53
Angel - I completely agree with that but I’m going to take this a step further and point the finger at EtH today. I’m sorry but we’ve seen those players fail and play atrociously bad football long before he arrived.

He left two of the most decorated players in world football on the bench today. A half fit Varane and Ronaldo are still better than the absolute dross he sent out this afternoon. People come to this football Club and seemingly lose their mind.

If Varane is fully fit and he starts Maguire instead and he persists with McFred he’ll be in serious trouble in no time. You still have to win football matches at Man Utd or least show something different than before.

The press didn’t make it past pre season even RR got it going for 45 minutes, however this was all so predictable. Let’s hope he’s a quick learner but if after 6 weeks of pre season he still thinks he doesn’t have better options than Maguire, Shaw and McFred then I’m lost for words.

The great thing about football is there’s always another game!

6.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 21:45:16
EtH quickly discovering what we all already knew, some players shouldn't be starting for United.

7.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 22:01:47
Does he have better options than McFred or Maguire though? Where are the players in our squad who have shown this?

The sad reality that we face is that maybe those players are the best we have in those positions, maybe our squad is that bad.

Do I believe that none of the managers wanted better players than them, no I don't buy that either, I certainly don't think Ten Hag hasn't wanted a better Midfield.

Also I thought Varane was rubbish for us last year. I thought he looked clueless and constantly out of position without Ramos telling him what to do. Is Lisandro the player to put him in the right position? I don't know that, if he is then maybe it will work.

I don't think the answer to either Midfield or defence is inside the club currently.

8.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 22:25:54
We need to be brave, or rather ETH needs to be brave. The likes of Maguire, and Fred need chopping. We need to get our big boy pants on and literally say “we were wrong”.

9.) 07 Aug 2022
07 Aug 2022 23:20:29
We were wrong to buy both of them but who do we replace them with?

It's not in the squad as far as I can see, so we have to convince an upgrade to join us.

That is entirely where my worries are, the ability of the club to get the right people in.

10.) 08 Aug 2022
08 Aug 2022 06:27:12
That’s true. The calibre of players we are now being linked with is desperate to say the least. Shows how far we’ve fallen. Maguire is the most costly mistake we’ve made in a long time, he’s simply terrible. Made his name playing for England playing poor sides. There’s better centre halves at the club, it just needs some bravery to try a few different partnerships out.
Fred is not capable of running a midfield, same as McTominay. Not knocking their efforts, but they just aren’t good enough in terms of ball retention and awareness.