01 Sep 2014 19:13:00
Man brokering the deal for Welbeck has said that the possible fee will be from 15-18 million GBP. (BBC 5 Live)

1.) 01 Sep 2014
01 Sep 2014 19:27:29
Cheap if lallana cost £25

2.) 01 Sep 2014
Ssn are saying welbeck not having a medical and no deal to be done

3.) 01 Sep 2014
Rip off if Balotelli cost £16mill.

Don't understand why everyone seems to obsessed with what other teams pay for players!

If I was I would comment that United paid £29million more for Herrera, an uncapped 25 yr old with no premier league experience and a scoring rate of 0.07

Whereas Liverpool paid £4million less for a 26 yr old full international, with 2 years premier league experience and a scoring rate of 0.2!

But then that would be petty!

Clubs will pay what they think a player is worth, some clubs will value players differently, that's supply and demand!

{Ed007's Note - We've had this discussion before about scoring ratios on the LFC site. It was agreed you lot were wrong, a goal every 0.2 of a game is 5 goals per game (0.2 x 5 = 1) or a goal every 18 mins.}

4.) 01 Sep 2014
Umm sorry, but that is simply about how you interpret it, I would suggest you are interpreting it differently to the majority.

A scoring rate of 0.2, I, and most others I think, would view as 0.2 goals per game. Not 0.2 games per goal.

In the same way you would count number of successful passes per game, tackles per game, shots per game or assists per game, not number of games per successful pass (although that might be best for United's midfield at the moment!)

The same system is used in Baseball (eg 0.333 hits per at bat), same in cricket (eg strike rate of 67.7), same in rugby (points per game) same in almost every sport worldwide as far as I can see.

Although that does detract from the point I was making about the relative prices of players.

{Ed007's Note - You didn't explain what formula you were using so there's no need to apologise for being wrong. You can't just type random thoughts or numbers and expect people to follow your train of though.
We have a baseball site if you want me to post a link up, we use the common sense system in here.}

5.) 01 Sep 2014
Common sense would dictate that I meant 0.2 games per goal, not 5 goals per game, surely?

It would not be common sense to think that I meant Ander Herrera scored on average 14.29 goals per game!

However, the scoring ratio was never really my point.

I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with what other teams pay for players. Each club values players differently. Chelsea could have taken Markovic for half of what Liverpool paid, they decided not to. Doesn't mean anything really!

{Ed007's Note - Don't be a 3.14159. We use traditional British football talk which is a goals per game ratio, not some Americanised trendy nonsense you've borrowed from a game of rounders. Look at this time-stamp on the LFC site: 24 Jul 2014 11:31:24 where it was explained before.

6.) 02 Sep 2014
Goals per game ratio? Like I used in my first post that you then said was wrong?

I'm now totally confused, that's exactly what I said in my first post (0.2 and 0.07) goals per game.

You said quite clearly that a 0.2 scoring ratio meant 0.2 games per goal or 5 goals per game. Which would have meant that 0.07 would be over 14 goals a game. Are you now saying that that was wrong?

Baseball, cricket, rugby, oh and football, all of these sports use the same scoring system, why are you having a go at baseball in particular? I don't understand

Is deadline day getting to you a little Ed007?

I really don't get where you are coming from apart from trying to belittle a Liverpool fan for the sole reason they are a Liverpool fan posting on the United board. Should I just stay on the Liverpool site from now on?

But then I'm sure you won't accept that you just read my original post wrong, you will either not post this response, or just be offensive again.

I really do appreciate all of the hard work that you guys put in, the sites are all great, I visit everyday (not pausing the ads at the top and keeping the volume on as I know that helps) but I just don't get it when it becomes offensive, from the users, or especially from the Eds. It's a real shame, in an otherwise exceptional operation.

Anyway, I hope you can all relax a bit after silly season guys and gals, and reflect on a job very well done!

It seems that the original point about valuation of players will not be discussed, and in that case I bid you good night!

Cheers everyone, happy international break!

{Ed007's Note - I thought it would confuse you, I'd imagine it's not a difficult thing to do. How can anyone score 0.2 of a goal it's not difficult is it? Normal people would say he's scored 2 goals in 10 games or he's averaging a goal every 3 games, not he has scoring rate of 0.2, if anything it reads he hasn't scored in 2 matches as in 0 and 2. Do you want to talk about batting averages?}

7.) 02 Sep 2014
Reddawn,

At what point has bond been offensive? Because he tried to explain that what you were saying makes no sense? You need to strap a pair on.