08 Jan 2014 18:41:50
Been reading the site now for 2 years and decided to register and post, so take it easy please.
I have got to say that I never wanted Moyes in the first place due to his inexperience of a big club and the fact he had won so little. I also now do not particularly like him now for a number of reason's including his defeatism, his lack of tactical knowledge, his apparent rubbish training methods, the unbelievable things his says in press conferences and interviews, his negative tactics and just his general representation of our great club. Now what bugs me on here is that people are being accused of not being real fans just because they have an opinion of him, I hate Moyes for what he is doing to our club and personally want to see him sacked but that does in no way affect the love I have for the club which I have supported from my earliest memories til the day I take my last breath. I live in Ireland now but was born and raised in Manchester, in a family who all passionately support united.
So the point of my rant is that just because people want Moyes gone does not make them any worse or better supporter than somebody who likes Moyes. United is like a family and like the old saying goes you can choose you friends but you can't choose your family, I do not choose Moyes! End of rant.

1.) 08 Jan 2014
Couldn't have said it better myself!
apparently the people who will blindly support the club no matter what are the only "real fans "

2.) 08 Jan 2014
Stalyvegas

Well said

3.) 08 Jan 2014
We are all fans and have the right to our opinions. If we all agreed the site would be boring.
I believe Moyes will turn it around given time and will support him until he does.And I believe too many are on his back too soon.
Doesn't make me a better or worse fan than you though.

4.) 08 Jan 2014
Top post mate

5.) 08 Jan 2014
All the evidence shows that clubs who get rid of managers quickly do badly. Managers who are given time, eg SAF do well.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea?}

6.) 08 Jan 2014
Thanks Ed, I quoted what Chelsea had done in recent years earlier. They were decisive and then won the big prizes.

{Ed002's Note - Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. A couple of managers were removed by an advisor to the club rather than the club itself. A couple were no more than temporary.}

7.) 08 Jan 2014
Chelsea have under achieved with the amount they have spent and they have not done well whilst changing managers post Jose, lucky in the champions league before you say they won that with a one year manager I would hate for us to change managers every season and I also think Moyes will win plenty of silver ware over a long period of time, the people who are throwing there dummys out just because were not top winning every game, telling us we are blind who think he can do it are in fact and fickle fake supports themselves, more like children than adults which I would not be shocked to find out they are either children or have serious personality disorders lol

8.) 08 Jan 2014
Thats my point will red, everyone is entitled to their opinion for or against Moyes, my gripe was people saying that this person or that person is not a proper supporter because of what they think.

9.) 08 Jan 2014
Ed002, Chelsea may be the exception that proves the rule. However, given the huge amount of money they have spent on players and managers many may think they should have done better.

{Ed002's Note - Inter Milan, Real Madrid ... - You are clutcing at non existant straws.}

10.) 08 Jan 2014
Katef

I have been following since 1968 and in my opinion some people don't realise the danger we are in. Liverpool supporters in 1990 thought it would never end and have had over 20 years almost in the wilderness league wise because of it. Those who imagine it will all come right for us just by giving Moyes more time are guessing and playing with the successful future of the club. They may also not remember us in the 70's and 80's.

11.) 08 Jan 2014
Ed
I agree with you and would rather have stability but not for stability's sake

12.) 08 Jan 2014
Thanks Katf you proved my point without me having to point anyone of my ten fingers.

{Ed002's Note - A MUFC fan and only 10 fingers?}

13.) 08 Jan 2014
Redman
I remember the eighties, and was as big a fan then as I am now. What if we get another manager now and we finish 8th? Sack him aswell? that's not the road we should go down IMO.
I agree stalyvegas. We are all fans and all want the same thing in the end, success.

14.) 08 Jan 2014
Will red

Get an experienced manager in temporarily to the end of the season e.g Heynkes and then conduct a proper recruitment exercise. That new permanent manager should have the necessary experience and should then be afforded time and money to get it right. I look back to Sexton in 77 and whilst I feel there are similarities to him in Moyes, even Sexton had won something previously but we knew early on he didn't have the right attributes. I look back to the day Edwards went up to get SAF and remember the list of achievements and that isn't there with Moyes

15.) 08 Jan 2014
It's alright all you Moyes haters calling for his head but say they sack him, then what?.Who is going to come in with this squad of players and the apparent inability to buy top quality replacements?.Names please and realistic names only?

16.) 08 Jan 2014
Redman
I think whoever is in charge needs backing with some big money. Moyes or whoever else won't stand a chance without that.
He has to get players in this window to give himself a chance, and he does need to win something as soon as possible, with some backing and his own signings I believe he can and more importantly SAF believes he can.
Once he wins 1 trophy who knows what can happen. He was given the job, now deserves a bit of time.

17.) 08 Jan 2014
The days of the long term managers are a thing of the past, fergie and wenger will be the last top class managers you will see at one club for so long.look at all the top clubs in europe and even if the managers are successful its unusual for any one to stay longer than 2-3 years, that is now the norm forget fergie s 25 years and wengers term you will never see the likes of that again

18.) 09 Jan 2014
John, I mentioned that a few months ago and I agree with you. The world is moving fast these days and changing even faster. No one will stay in the job like fergie did. These days are gone.

19.) 09 Jan 2014
Im not saying he will be here for 25 years. But there is a huge difference between sacking after 6 months and 26 years same manager. Somewhere in the middle maybe?