1.) 06 Feb 2014
I was wondering the same thing, for clubs like ours that are not backed by oligarchs or princes, 150 milllion is a lot of money, something we cannot spend every two-three years at a whim. This rebuilding must be handled with care and the remainder of the season should be like a test for DM to determine whether he can succesfully run a club like MU, something he has possibly not displayed in the first seven months of tenure. If there are some positives then by all means he should be entrusted with money to build his own team.


2.) 06 Feb 2014
Imo moyes will be giving the money to build a team


3.) 06 Feb 2014
I don't think Moyes will be replaced.

Is a war chest somewhere were weapons are kept?


4.) 06 Feb 2014
Moyes won't be sacked but I don't for one second believe the glazers will spend 150 million.Unfortunately the reason we can't attract most of the top players is down to them being greedy little buggers.Take Nasri for instance another 30k a week & off he pops to the bitters come on does it really matter when on over 100k a week does that 30k extra make any difference.Unfortunately that is the way it has gone & if we don't get in line we'll be left behind.Keep the red flag flying high.R.I.P The Busby Babes & also a big mention to the great man Jimmy Murphy


5.) 06 Feb 2014
Moyes has been given strong backing by Ferguson, so it is most unlikely that he will be fired before the end of the season, even if we fail to finish in the top 4, and even if he receives massive criticism on this site. I read recently that Moyes' teams often go on extended runs of either losses or defeats, even from his Preston days. It's about time we had a run of wins.
I am beginning to suspect that ne can't manage a team that he inherits, but only one that he creates himself.
A massive change in the first team squad is inevitable in the summer due to Vidic, Ferdinand, Anderson, Nani and possibly Rooney and Raphael moving on and Gigs retiring, so what United needs before the summer is a new appointment, someone who can close deals because that seems to be an Achillies heel of Woodward.
I have no doubt that United can afford to spend £100M to £150M in the summer and still meet FFP regulation. But completed before the World Cup starts
Red Setter


6.) 06 Feb 2014
If Moyes is replaced does Fergie get to pick his replacement too?


7.) 06 Feb 2014
I think it is sensible to see what Moyes does between now and end of season before giving him any money.
We have rvp Rooney mata januzaj kagawa. That's enough fire power for any team. What we need is to see if Moyes can make them play as a unit.


8.) 06 Feb 2014
Redsetter

"£100M to £150M in the summer and still meet FFP regulation."

Not sure where you came up with that mate.

We are so comfortable within the FFP guidelines that can afford that without any worries. The financial results will be out next week, so it will be interesting to see guidance going forward.


9.) 06 Feb 2014
GCU is right. Not 100% on the actual figure, but I think we could spend something like £100m per season for the next 5 seasons and still be well within the FFP rules.


10.) 06 Feb 2014
Red Setter, like Shahram said, MU could easily spend £150m over the next 18 months and still be within the FFP guidelines.


11.) 06 Feb 2014
Is that not what red setter said?


12.) 06 Feb 2014
If MU were to spend £100m in the summer plus what we spend on Mata in January, so let's say £140m. If the players signed are all on four-year deals then that's just £35m for each year. If it's five years then it's £28m over five years. It's not £140m removed in a lump sum.

But interestingly, whatever you make in sales for that year, that money is added in a lump sum. So for example, say MU sell Nani, Anderson & Hernandez for £32m, and we signed our players on five years deals, then we would actually post a profit of £4m.

I would go as far as to say MU could spend £500m over five years and still breakeven with ease.


13.) 06 Feb 2014
Redsetter

My bad I missed the no doubt part of your statement.


14.) 06 Feb 2014
Syd, i'd have a long look at that nonsense you have written.

if you spend 140 million in 1 window how does that get divided over four years.

factor wages in that is spread over the term of the contract not fees.

unless of course you pay for players by installment which is highly unlikely.

let me put it this way if I pay for 3 cars today they cost that today. Even if I keep them for 4 years. Unless I have finance.


15.) 06 Feb 2014
GCU
the FFP regulations total net loss over 3 seasons from 2013-4 onwards and can be Euro 45million. United has made a substantial profit over the past 2 seasons and has substantially increased income from TV rights and new sponsorships. Also, the headline spend of say £100 million is spread over the length of the incoming players' contracts typically 4 years. Hence in the first year, £100 million converts to £25 million. So in at laest the short an medium term, even £150 million net spend would satisfy FFP regulations by United
Red Setter


16.) 06 Feb 2014
Treble, maybe you should loom it up yourself. If for example we signed Ronaldo for £100m this summer on a 5 year contract, that £100m is divided by the term of the contract. Therefore he would in effect show on the clubs accounts as a £20m expenditure each season for those 5 years. His price would be depreciated (fancy term is "amortisation") by £20m per season.
If we then sold him for the same price after 3 years, his value on our books would then be only £40m. By selling him for £100m, we would in effect be making a £60m profit on him.


17.) 07 Feb 2014
Ffp. I think clubs will get round it. How can you explain the money city, psg and Monaco are pumping into players?
I have to say I'm not interested in the small print but these clubs don't seem to be bothered about it.