28 Sep 2022 10:09:12
As it looks like we’ll have very little money available for signings next Summer (striker and GK only? ) was wondering if any posters have been keeping an eye on the progress of loanees

Ethan Laird (QPR)

Hannibal (Birmingham)

Amad Diallo (Sunderland)

Alvaro Fernandez (Preston)

And whether they are making a good impression and might be ready to step up to the first team squad in the Summer?

Also, any other youngsters who might be in contention?

Iqbal, Savage, McNeill, Jurado, mainoo? Others?

Garnacho already there and waiting for opportunities

Could well save us some money!

1.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 10:36:03
I have a friend who is a QPR fan and he is waxing lyrical about Laird. He's been to every home game and a couple of away games so has watched him in the flesh and thinks he will be a top player.

From what I've seen/ heard Laird is the one who is doing bits while on loan.

The others have pretty much only made substitute appearances, although Fernandez started Preston's last game and played 70 minutes.

Laird seems to be the one who looks most ready for the first team squad next season. Fernandez will probably need another loan, as will Hannibal.

Amad I don't think is made to play in English football, he is small and struggles with the physicality. Next summer he might need to leave for the good of his career.

Garnacho looks ready to play some first team minutes, as does Zidane Iqbal. With Charlie Savage close.

Mainoo will likely need a loan next season unless he does something special this season. Which is probably the same with McNeil.

Jurado seems a year or two away in my opinion.

Laird is the one who could really save us some money as he seems most ready and if Dalot can tie down thr RB spot as first choice then Laird could comfortably come in as back up next season in my opinion.

2.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 10:37:14
I don't think anybody knows what money will be available.
It depends on which players move on and what money we get for them also.
Fernández has not got a regular starting berth at Preston but according to what I've read he has played well when he has played.
I think he is a shoe in for Shaw and I suppose we could get 15 / 20m for Shaw from one of the London clubs.
Hannibal and amad again it's early both are doing well by all accounts without excelling hopefully they will improve.
Interestingly laird is getting great reviews at qpr again if dalot keeps improving you might see laird replace awb
Henderson should be sold imo
So hope we see maguire Shaw awb Jones tuanzebe fred and ronaldo move on.
I'll be shocked if we don't sign more than 2 players but I'd imagine it will be 3 or 4 but at lower costs.
We may only have what we generate in sales to invest. Which is what a lot of clubs do.
All depends on where we finish and who eth wants to get rid of I'd imagine.

3.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 11:01:16
Apart from Shaw, who I still think has a chance and possibly the potential to play well. ETH has shown he's not against giving our players a chance if they play well. I see Shaw doing that as he actually had a decent game against England.
I think De Gea's place in the squad is a threat and not a lot of news around it, but Dalot too. Dalot contract expires this year, we do have 1 year extension but given how his performances have been improving and the love of portuguese players to play in Spain, if we don't extend his contract Barcelona or RM could be in for him.
Next 1-2 years I think we will see huge transitions. And some players getting sold that u couldn't think would be. ETH doesn't seem like a manager who wants to play players who are not committed.
He's basically shunned AWB too.

4.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 15:47:08
Rohan Shaw scored a scruffy goal alright but won none of his tackles made 18 passes not 1 went to an England colleague.
Made 4 crosses with 1 out of 4 meeting an England shirt.

5.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 16:49:47
Shaw isn't going to be the answer. He's a patches player. Plays well in patches but generally can't be trusted to keep that form up.

Malacia is clear first choice now. I'm sure like all young players he'll have a wobble at some point and will have to overcome a dip in form. But he's clearly EtH's choice.

Personally I think Shaw's time at the club is dependent on when Alvaro Fernandez is ready to be Malacia's understudy.

Shaw's contract is up next summer, although the club have a one year option. Unless we give him a new deal and probably a pay rise (and why would we) then he will either leave on a free next summer or the year after.

If Fernandez is ready next year then Shaw leaves on a free. If Fernandez needs another year on loan then I'd expect the club to activate the one year option in Shaw's deal and then let him leave on a free in 2024.

6.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 17:18:24
I agree about laird. No one has mentioned Facundo Pellistri . what are the thoughts on him?

7.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 17:30:55
I said on here a few weeks ago that Laird should be in our squad as he’s better than the right backs we have but was shouted down by one person in particular.

Dalot has actually played better than I expected but with ETH not trusting AWB at all we could do with Laird in the squad now. Obviously someone at the club thought another year on loan would do him good and that we can cope without him though so fingers crossed this year gives him the chance to be ready next year.

8.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 19:40:35
mbd, Pellistri was kept at the club by EtH ahead of the likes of Amad. Although I think he might have picked up an injury toward end of pre-season/ start of the season.

Reportedly he impressed EtH during the tour, so I guess we'll see if he gets any game time once he is back from injury.

He might as we only really have Antony who prefers to play on the right hand side. So he might get a few games in the cups.

9.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 20:11:29
This season will benefit him and he can mount a challenge next season gds2.
He is a good player no doubt about that. He had a few injuries he seems to have got over them and is putting in good games weekly.

10.) 28 Sep 2022
28 Sep 2022 20:56:21
Ken, it'll be interesting to see how he does this season in terms of injuries.

Some young lads suffer with them at certain points as they have growth spurts and their body is adjusting into a man's body. But once their body has settled down they don't suffer with persistent injuries anymore.

Others sadly go on to struggle with injuries for the rest of their career.

Fingers crossed he is the former and not the latter, as he is a super talent and it'd be good to see him have a chance to make the most of his potential.

I agree he is probably at the best place for his development. As mentioned he has missed opportunities to develop and play games due to injury. He now needs to get minutes under his belt and develop into the player he can be.

Next summer if he's had a great season at QPR he can come back and challenge Dalot for the RB spot.

11.) 29 Sep 2022
29 Sep 2022 06:56:26
I can't believe people still expect Shaw to be anything good enough for us.

It's hilarious to say the least.

12.) 29 Sep 2022
29 Sep 2022 07:26:17
Thanks for all replies, always interesting looking out for our loanees.

Think Pellistri played for Uruguay this week.

Heard good things also about Hannibal impressing at Birmingham; think he’ll be ready for the first team squad next year, along with Laird and Iqbal.

13.) 29 Sep 2022
29 Sep 2022 14:39:53
I very much doubt we will see laird starting for us any time soon. Easy to look decent in a lower league. See nothing myself to suggest he will make a name for himself here. IMO with how many managers been and gone during his development you'd think atleast one of them would have kept him in the fold if he was anywhere near good enough?

Happy to be proven wrong but as I say, I very much doubt it.

14.) 29 Sep 2022
29 Sep 2022 14:49:32
We've been horrendous at using the loan system to our advantage for years. Players with decent potential like Chong and Gomes left playing U23s for for years stunted their development. The best thing for these lads is to play men's football week in week out, be a part of team, get used to rigours and demands of senior football.

Laird staying at United to play 500 minutes this season wouldn't be nearly beneficial than a season at QPR, especially when we have RBs in our squad available.

I Watched some of Hannibals highlights, he's been doing well with the minutes he's getting. I think both of Amad and Pellestri will leave next summer. Anthony is cemented in at RW now with Sancho, Elanga and Rashford there for when he doesn't play. I can't see Pellestri getting minutes.

The two lads in midfield Iqbal and Savage is interesting. I think there might be some minutes there for them this season but centre backs, central midfielders and strikers don't generally break into top first teams that young. Loans for both should be secured in January.

There's a good crop of young lads who will definetely have decent careers, hopefully two or three can do it with us.

15.) 29 Sep 2022
29 Sep 2022 14:47:02
I have watched Hannibal twice and the way he tackles and goes in is a red card waiting to happen. Maybe it was just coincidence. Goes to ground too much for my liking for a player.

16.) 01 Oct 2022
01 Oct 2022 15:04:42
Things that Hannibal would be expected to learn from experience.