03 Jan 2024 22:38:51
Hi ed, any truth in these timo Werner rumours? Apologies if you have answered this already!

{Ed002's Note - Timo Werner (F) At the right price Frankfurt will take him from RBL. His agent is looking for a return to England and has approached a number of Lonndon based clubs. A wildcard would be Manchester United. RBL will accept the player going on loan but want guarantees he would not simply be cover.}


1.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 10:24:32
I’m not against Werner. I thought he was decent at Chelsea, just finishing let him down and he needed more time.

The issue I have is he is another who prefers to play wide on the left, and we are well stocked here.

Unless of course we ditch Martial somewhere, bring in Werner to cover left with Rash, Garnacho/ Antony right and move Hojlund/ Rash up top?


2.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 12:14:28
I was a big fan before he moved to England, he looked a really exciting prospect.

Unfortunately he didn’t realise his potential and I feel this type of transfer shows how far off we are. He wouldn’t be getting looked at by city, Liverpool or Arsenal, but we aren’t sat at the same table as them currently.

Despite that depressing thought, Werner would certainly be an upgrade on Martial.


3.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 12:23:29
Thanks ed as always.


4.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 12:27:51
Thanks again ed, as always.


5.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 13:15:16
Well he would simply be cover, so thankfully that ends that then.

Scary times when Manchester United cannot afford £15.2m for a very good striker entering his prime.

That being said, you have to create opportunities to be able to score goals, we create f all.


6.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 14:20:59
Syd, I'm not sure it's a case of United not being able to afford Guirassy.

I'd imagine it's more a case of not wanting to bring in a permanent option until after the new footballing structure have been put in place and can make the footballing decisions to suit the new vision/ plan.

On a side note, I don't rate Guirassy that highly. He seems like a player who is in a purple patch rather than someone who is about to step up to being a top level striker.


7.) 05 Jan 2024
05 Jan 2024 21:59:18
Maybe you're right about Guirassy hitting a purple patch, still doesn't change the fact United have an interest in him. But a loan move it'll be because there is no money to spend. January is never a great time to do business, but that's because teams want excessive fees for players and clubs want to avoid paying over the odds. However, Guirassy is of interest and he has a clause which is pretty cheap in today's market. We are also very short on strikers, we have one striker.


8.) 05 Jan 2024
05 Jan 2024 22:41:10
Syd, does the club have a genuine interest or is it just paper talk?

I wonder how long the club have been tracking him, couple of months I'd gather.

I just don't want to see anymore bad decisions being made in an attempt to quickly "fix" something.

Personally given the limited number of chances we create it probably wouldn't make a huge amount of difference if we had Harry Kane playing up front for us.

No point buying the wrong player to try and save the season. It won't work. I'd rather finish 10th than 7th if it means actually making good decisions for the long term.


9.) 06 Jan 2024
05 Jan 2024 23:48:13
It's been confirmed by the right people and of course Ed002.

I agree wholeheartedly that we shouldn't just put a plaster on the issue, but take away that clause and he is a €40m player who is available for £15m. His wages wouldn't be an issue and we could easily recoup in a sale.

I also wholeheartedly agree that it is lack of chances being created that is the issue, but we still only have one striker, That's unacceptable for Manchester United.

Had we signed Kane in the summer we would be seeing a different United now. That transfer would have installed so much believe and confidence, we would be a different side now. But we must make peace with the fact we cannot compete for that level of player anymore. Kane's whole package/ age.


10.) 06 Jan 2024
06 Jan 2024 15:54:44
Syd, he's a 40m euros player based on less than 20 games this season only.

Three years ago he joined Rennes for 15m euros, last summer they sold him to Stuttgart for 9m euros.

His goalscoring record per season was fairly ordinary up until this season, scoring 14 goals in 29 games last season, 12 goals in 48 games the season before, 14 goals in 33 games the year before that, and 9 in 24 during the 2019/ 20 season.

He has 98 career goals n 276 games, at a rate of a goal every 164 minutes. That would be promising if he was 24 years old, but he turns 28 in March.

He's another Michu, flash in the pan. Hitting a purple patch in his late 20's for 12-18 months at best. The only difference is Michu did it in the EPL and Guirassy has only done it in the Bundesliga. Where strikers get far more chances and typically score far more goals.

His buy-out clause is probably about where his value is. It's just media hype and a good run of form that has people suggesting he's worth 40m or more. His career up until the start of the season suggests he isn't worth half that reported 40m.


11.) 07 Jan 2024
07 Jan 2024 01:01:08
Seems Transfermarkt disagrees with you. They have him valued at €40m too. But what do they know?


12.) 07 Jan 2024
07 Jan 2024 14:13:20
Transfermarkt? Give me a break, they just pluck figures out of the air for their "valuing" of players. They have Garnacho at 30m and Antony at 35m currently. I'd be absolutely stunned if you could find any club that would pay more for Antony right now than they would for Garnacho.

There is no rhyme or reason to their valuations.