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21 Mar 2021 08:17:12
Ed002, I see United have been linked with Pedro Neto from Wolves as a possible Sancho alternative, are you aware if there is any truth in this?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Manchester United but they may well have spoken with his agent - but I don't know that they have.}


1.) 21 Mar 2021 12:40:55
Thanks Ed002. I think he'd be a great signing if we could get him. I've been really impressed with him this season.

{Ed002's Note - The advantage Neto has is that he could prove a cost efficient alternative to Sancho and Grealish whilst Diallo gains experience - so it does make some sense. Whilst I would expect Wolves to resist a sale a significant offer may prove tempting.}


2.) 21 Mar 2021 13:00:10
Neto is a good player. Don't see United in for a RW though now in all honesty as expect we would prioritise Centre Forward given Cavani may be off and Martial being Martial. If we were looking at RW though it clearly won't be Sancho given the cost quoted. I suspect Sancho joins Chelsea. Neto would be a quality addition at half the price.


3.) 21 Mar 2021 13:03:49
Neto is my preferred candidate for the RW position. I think his work rate is superior to Sancho. He’s been really impressive for Wolves this season.

I asked the question a couple of months ago and it was a no. Thanks for another update Ed.


4.) 21 Mar 2021 13:53:24
Looks good on the ball neto but I think his decision making is still pretty poor .
That said only turned 21 the other week so plenty of time and room improvement.


5.) 21 Mar 2021 14:00:42
Neto won't come cheap either though reportedly cheaper than Sancho. A fee of 50m was mentioned in the media.


6.) 21 Mar 2021 14:38:30
dev, 50m is the minimum fee that gets attached to any player we are linked to.

I think the 45m Liverpool paid Wolves for Jota sets a pretty fair baseline. I think Jota was a slightly more important player for Wolves when Liverpool signed him. So I think somewhere between 35-45m is a fair price for Neto, and about right. No doubt United will pay 80m though as I'd have said 35-45m was about the right price for Maguire at the time.


7.) 21 Mar 2021 14:58:35
I think for a player with Netos quality, age and potential 50 millions is a fair price. Maybe is cheap.
I am not sure he is a worst player than the 100+ million Sancho.


8.) 21 Mar 2021 19:14:40
I want Grealish. He is a really creative player and would help take the weight of Brunos shoulders. Plus Grealish can play in so many positions from left wing to right wing, just behind the strikers and even as a false number nine. He draws fouls from opposing teams for fun and his decision making is getting better and better.

{Ed077's Note - has Grealish played RW? Never seen him play there. Honestly I dont watch Villa much because of his constant diving so dont know}


9.) 21 Mar 2021 20:51:39
I think Grealish played RW once while on loan before his Villa breakthrough 😂.


10.) 21 Mar 2021 22:01:07
Lol Neto was barely mentioned as a RW option and now he’s everyone’s first choice. He hadn’t particularly excelled but seems a cost-effective option for the position.


11.) 21 Mar 2021 22:42:09
Grealish drifts across the front line. Mainly plays coming in from the left wing it is true but is more than capable of playing other positions. Besides we have Amad and the othwr young signing for right wing.


12.) 22 Mar 2021 06:59:22
The reality is that with Grealish signing a new deal last summer, and Villa's excellent season his 70m price tag from last summer will have gone up close to the 100m.

He's a good player but certainly not one we could afford to be spending anywhere near that much on.


13.) 22 Mar 2021 07:38:40
Wouldn't touch Grealish with a bargepole, £100m English premium, no ta, Neto feels much more a United player to me.


14.) 22 Mar 2021 10:30:27
Neto would be a quality addition for the future especially at the prices being quoted. My issue with this is that RW will probably be down the order for summer purchases considering our needs and the amount of money available. With Greenwood (unless he is moved to a striker role) and Diallo (progressing) I think we have that covered for this summer and could look in 2022 dependent on hpw these 2 do.


15.) 23 Mar 2021 09:56:10
I can't believe people write off Grealish so easily in favour of Neto.

Grealish has performed at a very high level for two or three seasons at least. He has carried Villa this year. Since he was injured and not played their results have taken a nose dive.

Grealish is still among the top of the stats charts showing how many fouls he has drawn, chances created, etc despite not playing for a month now at a busy time of the season.

Yes Neto looks good but with him its buying potential whereas Grealish is the real deal now. Grealish has matured into a fine player and if we could ger him Ings and a proper defensive midfielder it would improve our team immeasurably.


16.) 23 Mar 2021 11:53:18
Salford7 - i am with you mate, Grealish is a top player absolutely head and shoulders above Neto.


17.) 23 Mar 2021 13:53:17
Salford, without question Grealish is a very good player. I only have two minor concerns about him and neither are to do with his talent. I wonder whether his mentality and attitude will translate well to a club with top level expectations. Will his ego deal with not being the big fish. While his off-field behaviour isn't something that he can get away with under the glare of playing for a club like ours.

That said the reality is that it will cost close to 100m to get Grealish, where as Neto would be available for half the cost of not less. Neto is younger and with a similar ceiling in my opinion.

If Grealish and Neto were both available for 45m then I don't think there will be any question which one people would pick. But they aren't and during a summer where our budget will likely be limited the options could be Neto and a CB or just Grealish. In that instance I think most would take Neto.


 

 

19 Jan 2021 13:41:29
Ed002, I'm hearing quite a lot of chatter about United holding an interest in the young Argentine defender Facundo Medina currently of RC Lens.

With rumours of even a possible move in January for him. Personally I find that unlikely as he only moved to France from South America last July.

Do you know if United hold an interest in him, and what the view of him is in France. He's supposedly caught the eye of several well thought of French pundits and coaches.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Manchester United making an approach but ironically there is very significant interest from a number of clubs in his centre back partner, Loic Bade.}


1.) 19 Jan 2021 14:37:24
Ed002
Any truth to the rumours linking us to Robin Le Normand of Real Sociedad? Or is it just the random names linked for click bait purpose? Also is he any good? Not seen much him play.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Robin Le Normand (CB) I am not aware of any approach to Real Sociedad by Manchester United but told another interested side that he was not for sale meaning that a club would need to agree to his buy out clause to effectively make an offer. But they do money and want to keep their "prized assets" so may be open to a good offer.}


2.) 20 Jan 2021 11:27:50
Is sign him just for the name alone. Bobby the Norman!


 

 

20 Dec 2020 13:24:21
Ed002, do you know if Manchester United have a serious interest in 19 year old Ecuadorian Moises Caicedo who has been linked to United in the past couple of days.

From what I've read without watching him he sounds like a promising, talented young CDM/ CM. But I would doubt he would be coming to United to be first choice anytime soon.

{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that he impressed when Manchester United were following up on looking at another player who they had first seen in the Real Sociedad reserves. There has been interest in Caicedo from a couple of other sides.}


1.) 21 Dec 2020 11:05:20
I can see him going straight into the first team squad, he's a full international, he's 19 so he's old enough. From his highlights package which is quite lengthy for someone that's not played for the last 6 months he looks a beast at tackling and breaking up play, chips in with a couple of goals. I think he's an ideal replacement for Matic over time, get used to the Premier League and get him ready for next season.


2.) 21 Dec 2020 12:25:08
Kidder, Pellistri looked the business in South America and is a similar age and has a similar amount of first team experience.

It's a huge step up in level of competition to the EPL, while they are young lads moving halfway around the world to a very different culture.

There will be a period of adjustment and I wouldn't expect him to be thrown into the first team immediately.


3.) 22 Dec 2020 20:01:28
A lot of talk in Ecuador (social media so pinch of salt lads) that something has been agreed.


 

 

13 Nov 2020 17:14:16
I've heard a rumour that United and Juventus have/ are exploring the idea of a Pogba/ Dybala swap either in January or next summer.

Dybala's wage demands are beyond what Juventus are prepared/ able to pay him and the stalemate over a possible new deal means they will have to sell by next summer at the latest to avoid possibly losing him on a free in 2022.

While Pogba's position at United has been clear for a long time. He wants to leave, but the club have blocked a move as they would need to sell for less than they paid and they don't want to lose face. However, the club have now got themselves in the stupid position of not being able to sell him due to the activation on the one year extension and they cannot "profitieer" from that extension. Meaning they keep an unhappy player for the next 18 months then lose him for nothing, they offer him a new massive deal and pay a player far more than he's worth and throw the wage structure into disarray, or they find a solution where he leaves and the club save face.

So, I was wondering is a Pogba/ Dybala swap even possible?


1.) 13 Nov 2020 17:39:25
Shappy they can sell him next summer or in Jan.


2.) 13 Nov 2020 17:58:53
Dybala is a good player for sure but plays mainly as a second striker. Is that the position we really need to reinforce the most? Feels like we'd go for him due to convenience rather than extensively scouted him etc and he be right for the team. Mishandling Pogba will lose us some serious cash ultimately. If we were going to swap Pogba for anyone at Juventus though I'd be targeting Matthijs de Ligt. At least then that's moving on a known problem for a potential solution (to our CB issue) .


3.) 13 Nov 2020 19:06:14
We already have too many Ams in Vdb, Bruno and Pogba why would we swap Pogba for Dybala. It would be like the dumbest thing to do.


4.) 14 Nov 2020 07:30:07
I think dybala could suit an interchanging front 3 system but yeah I would worry about him wanting to play the Bruno role. In an ideal world we’d just sell pogba, we have no use for him. He cannot play in a team with Bruno in my eyes as they occupy the same spaces and Bruno is much more reliable and had shown more in less than a year than pogba has since he returned. For me I would sell him and bring in a quality DM. Ideal would be Saul as he can play the deeper role but I think if we were to go down the purely defensive minded midfielder we couldn’t go wrong with Zakaria. Saying that Partey certainly looks the real deal atm.


5.) 14 Nov 2020 07:41:57
He isn't AM Singh, he is, as Halesini said, a second striker. It could mean a change of formation, and playing with two forwards.


6.) 14 Nov 2020 13:44:26
Always thought he’d be a great option at RF.


7.) 14 Nov 2020 14:10:14
Ken, my understanding is that as United triggered the one year extension in Pogba's contact (which would have been up next summer 2021) to last until 2022. That means any money from any sale would go to Pogba unless some sort of agreement can be reached between United and Pogba to circumvent the "profiteering" regulations.
i. e. the club can't activate the one year extension just to make money from his sale.

While Dybala wouldn't be my first choice option, I could see him working well in a two man front line if the management decided to go with a 41212 or 3512 shape full time with the squad.

I've heard that it is an option both club's are exploring to save face/ get a player they want/ avoid losing key players for free.

Personally I'd have sold Pogba last summer, and brought in Bruno a few months earlier.

Ideally I think we need a left sided CB partner for Maguire (as we are unlikely to drop a 80m player who is the club captain) . Getting a left sided CB means Maguire can be pushed over to the right hand side and get a little more protection from AWB.

A CDM to replace Matic long term, who struggles to play 2 games a week over a whole season. I really like McTominay, but I don't think he is a natural holding player. He best attribute is his running power and ability to move box to box, neither of which is used as a holding midfielder. While his passing range is limited, especially his long range passing accuracy, and his defensive reading of the game is average. Although he is strong in defensive duels. While Fred I'm not sure what his best role is. He isn't great creatively, his passing and first touch are erratic, he is terrible in the holding role. He is at his best as an annoying buzzing player, getting in the face of the opposition and winning the ball back then playing short, simple passes. However, I feel to really get the best out of him you would need BOTH a deeplying playmaker AND a No.10. either way, we seriously lack a natural holding CDM to cover/ replace Matic.

Then obviously we need a RW, it was meant to be Sancho. Whether that ship has sailed remains to be seen. Yet next summer we will likely have to compete with at least one of Liverpool, Chelsea, City, PSG, Real Madrid or even Barcelona for his signature. Meaning that he will likely cost more than what we weren't willing to pay this summer.


8.) 14 Nov 2020 16:32:08
People keep saying that, but is that really the case Shappy? Sancho wants to go to England, which would leave 4 teams in the race. Chelsea already has a lot of atackers, and if he choose Liverpool, he would be 2nd choice. He won't go back to City. PSG might be an option, but I think that's highly unlikely. Real has different targets in Mbappe, Haaland and the player from Ren (forgot his name) . Barcelona has no money, unless they sell some of their expensive players. Back to Liverpool, as I think they could be an option, if Salah leaves.


9.) 14 Nov 2020 17:18:28
Trololo, Salah might leave Liverpool next summer so Sancho could be the replacement.
City might have a new manager and could look for a big name signing for the manager and could look to Sancho.
PSG might lose either Mbappe or Neymar and would look for a top signing to replace either of them.
Real Madrid have been approached by his agent and could easily switch their focus to him if they can't get other targets.
Barcelona might be looking for a replacement for Messi and Sancho could be the ideal player.
Chelsea are less likely to get involved, but do have a previous interest.

I doubt ALL of those sides would be interested, but if even ONE of them are then we immediately face competition for him which we didn't have this year. While the likelihood that NONE of them would show an interest is slim at best.


10.) 14 Nov 2020 20:39:32
Considering we keep playing juan mata right wing and let him drift infield and link up with other attackers, it isn't outside the realm of possibilities that dybala could do a similar sort of role.


11.) 15 Nov 2020 01:07:46
We might as well swap him with cash. The guys is the modern day Carlton Palmer.


12.) 15 Nov 2020 01:16:40
Sure Shappy, we both got our opinions about that possible transfer, but you made it look like every club out there is going to fight for Sancho. There is no chance that every club you mentioned will be interested in him. Liverpool could easily be the only contender.


13.) 15 Nov 2020 05:42:41
Dybala has a fantastic left foot and can easily play on the right side of a front three.


14.) 15 Nov 2020 10:31:27
Trololo, I'm not sure I did.

"Yet next summer we will likely have to compete with at least one of Liverpool, Chelsea, City, PSG, Real Madrid or even Barcelona for his signature. "

That's what Is said in my post. Where I clearly say "likely" and "at least one of".

I haven't said anyone would definitely be in for him, just that several other clubs are likely to hold an interest.

Personally I think the deal is dead. If we weren't prepared to pay what Dortmund wanted this year then why would we pay it next year?

{Ed002's Note - Juventus are already in discussions with another side over Dybala as clubs are making an effort to agree transfers as early as possible. An exchange for Pogba is not something that has been discussed and there remains the issue of a renewed contract if Dybala were to drop his insistance on a particular clause in his contract.}


15.) 15 Nov 2020 11:35:57
Cheers Ed002, that puts that to bed.


16.) 15 Nov 2020 22:42:19
Sorry, I read it in that manner. Yes, we wouldn't pay that amount, but neither did anyone else. Obviously the price was too high. As much as I'd like to see Sancho playing for United, it shouldn't happen at that price.
And virus is still active, I doubt much will change until summer, concerning other clubs (and Uniteds) budget.


 

 

16 Oct 2020 10:38:29
"Paul's our player, he's going to be here for another two years and I'm sure Paul is focused on doing his best for us and we want to see the best of Paul. I'm sure in the next couple of years we'll get the best out of him. "

Solskjaer's most recent comments about Paul Pogba. So I doubt he'll be dropped for the Newcastle game, and it looks like the club intend to activate the one year extension and let him leave on a free in 2022. Poor decision in my opinion, and just shows the lack of leadership, direction and basic understanding of football from the top brass at the club.


1.) 16 Oct 2020 11:19:35
“Pauls head is elsewhere, he has wanted to leave for the past 3 summers, didn't see eye to eye with previous manager like a lot of the squad. Paul is not focused on doing his best for us, i'm sure hell excel elsewhere in the next couple of years”.

Probably closer to the truth but ole is hardly gonma say that in his press conference.


2.) 16 Oct 2020 11:37:01
What about the poor decision making from Old to keep shoe-horning him in the midfield, playing deep when it clearly isn't working?


3.) 16 Oct 2020 12:16:03
It worked pretty well last season post lockdown.

I can't think of a single player who has played well in the league for us this season.


4.) 16 Oct 2020 12:57:35
Just don't play him. Should be easy enough for the manager.


5.) 16 Oct 2020 13:08:01
Maybe Paul Scholes?


6.) 16 Oct 2020 13:15:08
Did it dsg? 2 cup semi finals and a dismal few games before that.
Our best run was when pogba was injured.


7.) 16 Oct 2020 13:17:04
so we will be playing with ten men for the next two seasons then.


8.) 16 Oct 2020 13:20:00
DarkKnight, With Pogba there are three options with him in the squad.

1. Don't play him at all. but the draw back is every time you drop points that decision will be questioned. While if the club weren't going to play him they might have well sold him this summer even if it was for 10m.

2. Play him in a position that will get the best out of Pogba even if that is to the detriment to other players such as Bruno, Rashford or whoever. The plus side is pogba plays well, the downside is others might not. Plus if Pogba doesn't sign a new deal then he leaves after we have built the team around him.

3. Try and crowbar him in at his detriment and not that of other players who are committed to the side. That way if he leaves then he isn't a key player in our squad. While other players haven't had their form impacted by Pogba. While win, lose or draw you can't be questioned for leaving out "potentially" one of our best players.

None are good options, we have an unbalanced squad and a key player who wants to leave. Ideally the club would have moved him on this summer and Donny would have been his replacement in the first team. While Lingard or Pereira could have added depth until next season when hopefully one or two of Garner, Levitt and Mejbri might be ready to push for a first team spot depending on how they develop this season.


9.) 16 Oct 2020 15:02:48
I agree with Ken. Our best run was with Fred-Mactominay double pivot.


10.) 16 Oct 2020 17:38:49
2 guys with limited talent giving it everything are better than a player with lots of talent but not giving it his all.


11.) 16 Oct 2020 17:52:22
Ken, Pogba featured in every unbeaten game since project restart.
His first appearance post lockdown was against Spurs in which he won us the penalty after coming on as a substitute.
Apart from that he started all other matches.

I just feel he is not motivated to play for us. It shows in the lack of effort.
There are times when Bruno busts his guts and tracks back when he loses the ball, but I've yet to see that attitude from Pogba.


12.) 16 Oct 2020 17:55:05
Ken i wouldn't say that the only problem is he doesn't give everything. The 2 limited guys you refer to are simply better than Pogba in this role, they are better defencive 8 in this double pivot role.


13.) 16 Oct 2020 18:27:15
Pogba should be playing as understudy to Bruno, with Fred and VdB and Matic and McTominey fighting for the other two positions.


14.) 16 Oct 2020 18:53:36
Trd read the post.
We have been poor since he came back in the team. I think since project restart we played well twice. Before restart we played well in 7 or 8 games while he was injured. Our form has deteriorated since the restart game by game until now.
Its not just him ole has them all playing badly especially his own signings.


15.) 16 Oct 2020 18:59:08
Given how Pogba has played for the last year he doesn’t even merit a place in the starting 11. If it wasn’t for his commercial/ social media value the club would be working much harder to shift him out. Also, our relationship with Real Madrid is horrendous and I can’t see us ever selling anyone to them under the current environment. I saw Spanish reports that Barcelona were interested and perhaps we could get some players from them in exchange. De Jong would be my top choice, he’s come into some criticism from the Catalan media recently and when that happens then 90% of the time it doesn’t work out well for the player.


16.) 17 Oct 2020 08:07:26
Not sure Real will be Pogba's next destination, aren't they prioritising Mbappe, a right winger and Camavinga next summer?


17.) 18 Oct 2020 06:50:00
He wouldn’t excel anywhere dsg he’s a no good drama queen.


 

 

 

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19 Apr 2021 12:08:20
I think there is a need to step back and avoid any snap decisions that may or may not look foolish in the weeks, months, and years to come.

The European Super League (ESL) is certainly an unsavoury topic and will rightfully upset and frustrate many fans. Yet the reality is a shake up of this nature has been a long time coming, while the global C.V. and its financial impacts will have only worked to accelerate this situation.

While our club is fairly secure, there are many great European clubs whose financial position was precarious before the global C.V. They will now be scrambling to fill financial holes in their accounts that will run into the hundreds of millions.

I reserve judgement on the whole situation until what will transpire becomes fully clear. Just last night the idea of the ESL was thought to be an end to those clubs competing in domestic football. Whereas now it appears that the ESL would just be an alternative to UCL or EL football.

Most fans on here have agreed that UEFA and FIFA are corrupt organisations that wield too much power, yet now many of those people now feel that the power shouldn't be taken away from them/ reduced.

Their hollow threats about banning players from the World cup or the European championship is just that hollow. It's a last-ditch attempt to try and threaten the elite clubs to toe the line. The reality is that they don't want to lose the most prestigious players from their own tournaments. Yet if losing them from the UCL/ EL is so damaging then why would they then ban them from their other competitions. It would be the ultimate cutting your nose off to spite your face move. At most they would do it for one tournament before rescinding it.

I think we also need to appreciate that this is not a new thing, or something out of left field. Discussions have been held since the mid 90's on a shake up of the current system. Those who remember the European cup and its format will appreciate the changes that were brought in during the 1993/ 94 season, changes designed to benefit the bigger clubs. Group stages designed to avoid top sides getting knocked out early, seeding for the group stages designed to keep the big sides apart until the latter stages, the champions of some European leagues entering during the qualifying rounds, while teams that finish 2nd or 3rd in other leagues going straight to the group stage.

The UCL which ultimately is what the ESL would replace/ be in direct competition with has been designed and altered to the benefit of the European elite. To celebrate our win in 1999 or 2008 while condemning the very idea of the ESL could be considered to be hypocritical. The ESL is just the next natural step in European club competition which started all those years ago when they changed the European cup to the Champions league.

That's why I feel its best to take a step back, and just wait and see what the outcome will be. Rather than jumping in and picking a side before we even know what each side stands for. I appreciate that some people fear the change, they may even believe this is the end of football. Yet the reality is the top tier of English football went through a rebranding/ structuring in the creation of the EPL, the same thing with the European cup/ UCL, the UEFA cup/ EL. These restructure/ rebranding happen periodically. Rarely is it the collapse of the system.

Outside of football 3 years ago Brexit was either the glorious rebirth of the UK or the beginning of the end. Yet here we are three years later, and little has changed. The country has seen neither a rebirth nor a collapse (fortunately) . While a bad flu strain has put the whole Brexit fiasco in its place. The world keeps spinning and the sky hasn't fallen.

If after everything that has happened in the past 5 years, the worst thing is your club plays in a different European cup competition then congratulations you only have first world problems.

Let's sit back and watch this unfold before we judge whether it's the worst thing to happen to football since VAR.


1.) 19 Apr 2021 13:08:32
Leicester city did the impossible and won the PL against all the odds, with the size of the club and the gulf in financial clout they have compared to the big boys it was a phenomenal feat. For that achievement they got to play on the biggest stage at club football, deservedly so, with the chance of being drawn Barcelona or Madrid for instance. Why should that be taken away from them? Why do we and other clubs have a god and given right to play in the “elite” league without qualifying for it? Christ we only get to the CL every now and then these days. Arsenal another who barely get in anymore, Tottenham another. It’s nothing short of a disgrace.

The people who run the clubs don’t give two rubbishs about their true core supporters, it’s all greed and money and a kick in the teeth to all the working class who have followed these clubs home and away over the years.

The whole thing stinks, and our club with these owners if rotten to the core: I’m literally disgusted with everything we’ve become to stand for.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 13:47:50
Stand, this isn't something new. How many of us mock the signing of new sponsors but enjoy the club flexing its financial might in the transfer market.

We are a long way from the core of footballs roots. Most EPL teams struggle to name British players for HALF of their starting 11, let alone a team full of local players. How many Mancunians have you seen regularly play for us in your life time?

If you ask most United fans to name their favourite United player, most wouldn't name a British player let alone a Mancunian.

How many of Manchester United's fans were born in the shadow of Old Trafford? How many have even been to Old Trafford? That doesn't in anyway diminish their connection to the club, but just highlights that our club is a global club now, and it has been for a long time.

If you want something pure, something untainted by everything that football has become then get yourself along to your local non-league club every Saturday and stand in the rain to support them. As the reality is that is the only part of football that still has its soul.

I don't think its fair to come on here and demand the club make expensive signings like Haaland or Kane this summer then complain about the club attempting to protect it's income.

How can you demand the club spends 120-150m on one player but have an issue with the club attempting to ringfence its income to enable those sort of transfers?

I agree I don't like what has been proposed, but the reality is I have supported a club all through the 90's, 00's, and 10's that has exploited its popularity to increase its wealth. I'm a long way a way from being able to claim some moral high ground or faux outrage at what was always the next logical step for a club that looked to increase its wealth long before the Glazers rocked up. In fact the Glazers were only able to buy our club in the manner they did due to the greed of the former owners.

I appreciate that for some people this might be the straw that breaks the camels back, but let's not pretend we weren't aware of the mountain of straw that was there before.


3.) 19 Apr 2021 13:49:22
Shappy. You couldn't have put more rubbish in that post if you tried mate.

First of all the club's know damn well they can't just start their own tournament and get away with it. If you think the domestic game is not under threat because of this then you're wrong!

Talking about the Premier League or Champions league is a different kettle of fish. This isn't a re-branding of a competition, it is the start of a new federation of football. They will not coexist.

You're going to "wait and see" what transpires. The same 15 teams given an extra 400 million quid a year is going to improve the game?

As for your Brexit comment. As something from Ireland who works for the Department of Foreign affairs, I can tell that the number of U. K citizens who have enquired about Irish citizenship is in the hundreds of thousands. Thousands can't work abroad, thousands have lost businesses abroad. Just because it hasn't affected You, doesn't mean there isn't a tough road ahead for millions of citizens across the U. K.

You're economical situation wasn't affected and as a United fan you'll benefit from the Super League, but this isn't about where your allegiances lay. This is about the greater good.

Billionaire owners moving to a competition with no incentive to do well is a catastrophic event for the sport.

If you think the Glazers, Kronke, FSG give two rubbishs about the landscape of football they'll leave when they cash out you're incredibly naive.

Make no mistake. Football is under attack by men and women who would would burn it to the ground to make money.

You can wait and see what happens but by then it will be far too late.


4.) 19 Apr 2021 14:01:12
We have to face the fact that the old financial structure based on attendance at games is essentially a thing of the past. The top clubs are receiving maybe 20% of their revenue from gates. Long gone are the days when clubs had to purchase their own kit. Imagine the financial impact from CV had this shift in revenue sources not already taken place.

So while many of us will rue the next stage in the transition from "Association" to "Money" rules football, it is probably inevitable in some form or another. If playing in an ESL means no League Cup, do we care? The glamor of the cup competitions has been fading anyway. Even the FA Cup isn't what it once was. From a selfish perspective a mid week game against Real Madrid or Bayern Munich would be more enticing than a tie against Colchester.

Yes, it may mean that the economic system that's sustained 4 professional divisions in England will require a re-evaluation. Maybe that would be a good thing.

Ironically, if the top European teams are playing against like opposition week in week out, maybe it will force them to field weakened teams at the weekend thereby opening up the potential for more Leicester City like EPL titles. Either way the game is now an international media spectacle, not a domestic attendance one, so perhaps commensurate changes are inevitable.

My biggest concern would be the loss of the promotion/ relegation/ qualification dynamic which has kept a high % of fans interested right up to the last day of the season, something the franchise system fails to achieve. Without it the game as we have known it will be irrevocably altered, and I do believe it will be for the worse. Much of the interest will be gone. In the rush to globalization the underlying tribalism that's driven football supporters is likely to to be superseded by more specious forms of support, completely divorced from hometown.


5.) 19 Apr 2021 14:24:29
Shaw, what happens when Leicester win back to back league titles. Do They not deserve a crack at the top European trophies?

Arsenal and Spurs in a Super League? You're having a laugh!

We struggle to consistently finish in the top 4 of our league and people think this is a good idea?


6.) 19 Apr 2021 14:47:44
Unfortunately, that bad flu strain brought the sky falling in on the millions of people who died or were infected with C.V., not to mention all the families around the world who lost a loved one. I know you're trying to put some perspective on the ESL debate but C.V. shouldn't be brought into it.


7.) 19 Apr 2021 14:53:56
Under the proposals Leicester as Champions would play in the European Super League Mumbles.

{Ed002's Note - No.}


8.) 19 Apr 2021 15:24:00
No they wouldn't Grim, that's the problem.

We'll have created a new God tier of football that is unattainable to the rest of the football world.


9.) 19 Apr 2021 15:15:04
@Shawthing

"Yes, it may mean that the economic system that's sustained 4 professional divisions in England will require a re-evaluation. Maybe that would be a good thing. "

What you are essentially saying there is its unimportant if some century old clubs are eradicated for this new league. As long as the top clubs are well looked after. Communities are built around football teams and I very much doubt you would be saying such a thing if United were to be folded so that Man City could get an extra £400m a year. This isn't about United being able to afford their new shiny players, this is about preserving historic football teams and the league. People devote their lives to football teams throughout the pyramid, but that is unimportant to you as long as you can see United play Juventus twice a year.

I will look forward to your opinion when they inevitably begin to move games off shore to attract more foreign crowds, or if after a long period of no investment in playing staff and facilities United lose their place in this tournament. Would be great to get your opinion then on how, what these people are doing is for the good of football.


10.) 19 Apr 2021 15:18:09
Mumbles.

As yet the Germans and French have declined to participate and without Bayern and PSG it would be a very incomplete European Super League.

I can only speak from my own perspective as a Manc and United fan since 1962, now living in the US. When I got here in 1982 there was no football to be had and so I missed at least a decade. It was hard to even find out the results. The TV expansion was a great thing. It allowed my son to share my passion. But the other side of the developments that gave me access again to watching United regularly was that the game became a media spectacle, and our club, maybe first of all, became primarily a marketing company.

Change is inevitable. To oppose the globalization of the sport is not dissimilar to being a supporter of Brexit, which is to say, a return to the idea of domestic sovereignty and control over the evil force of the global elites.


 

 

17 Apr 2021 10:36:03
Here's something a little different, if you could take one player from each of our biggest rivals (City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, and Leicester) who would you sign?

Liverpool it would be VvD, best defender in the world and one of the few Liverpool players I can't dislike.

City it would be Foden, just a wonderfully talented player who looks like he will have a big future. I would also consider Dias or Laporte.

Spurs it would be Kane, would be a close-run thing with Son, but I think Kane would make a bigger impact for us.

Chelsea it would be Mount, has impressed me more than any other English player in the EPL over the past two seasons. Great attitude, works hard, talented and can play in so many positions.

Leicester it would be Ndidi, would just make our midfield solid. Great player.

Who would you guys go for and why?


1.) 17 Apr 2021 10:58:31
Liverpool - VVD
City - KdB
Spurs - Kane
Chelsea - James
Leicester - Ndidi.


2.) 17 Apr 2021 11:50:03
Good question Shappy:

Liverpool - Salah
City - Dias
Spurs - Kane
Chelsea - Mount
Leicester - Söyüncü
West Ham - Rice.


3.) 17 Apr 2021 11:50:45
City kdb he is brilliant.
Liverpool fabhino top cdm we should never have missed out on him
Spurs kane. Kane scores goals
Chelsea mount. One of my fav players in the league to watch. Really good team player
Leicester fofana. This lad is going to be top class imo.


4.) 17 Apr 2021 11:54:13
Liverpool - VVD
City - KdB
Spurs - Kane
Chelsea - Havertz
Leicester - Ndidi.


5.) 17 Apr 2021 12:26:21
Liverpool - TAA
City - Dias
Chelsea - Havertz
Leicester - Ndidi
Spurs - Kane.


6.) 17 Apr 2021 12:34:07
Liverpool - Mane
City - Ruben Dias
Chelsea - Ngolo Kante
Spurs - Kane
Arsenal - Bukayo Saka
Leicester - Fofana.


7.) 17 Apr 2021 13:52:15
Liverpool Salah
City Dias
Chelsea Mount
Spurs Kane
Arsenal Saka
Leicester Fofana.


8.) 17 Apr 2021 15:15:38
Mount stand out player at Chelsea.

VvDyk amazing

Kane goals scorer and now creator

Diaz would partner VVD very well

Saka maybe from Arsenal

Fabinho because we need a ball playing holding player, and maybe everyone forgot that I already chose VVD earlier.

Mount and Fernandes ahead of fabinho would be mouth watering. Rest of line up is pretty obvious.


9.) 17 Apr 2021 23:30:05
Liverpool - VVD
City - KdB
Spurs - Kane
Chelsea - James
Leicester - Ndidi.


10.) 18 Apr 2021 12:43:38
LFC - VvD
MCFC - Dias
CFC - Mount
LCFC - Ndidi.


11.) 18 Apr 2021 13:38:25
Great to see so much love for Mason Mount, he has been absolutely brilliant since Frank brought him back and put him in the starting line up.

In my little dream world I'd love us to sign Mount and Rice and play them alongside Bruno to create one of the best midfields in the league and Europe.

Add a creative wide player and move Greenwood to CF with Rashford on the right.

Bring in a couple of CB's and suddenly we'd have one of the best first 11's in Europe.


 

 

15 Apr 2021 15:23:59
It was an interesting debate yesterday around possible new striker options, at one end you have your clear top-class strikers, players like Kane and Haaland. The issue is they would both cost well over 100m in fee alone, then with agent's fees, wages, and taxes the cost starts spiralling to frankly ridiculous proportions. Sadly, I think considering the other areas of the squad that need work and our more limited budget after a tough 18 months financially means that players at that level just don't seem viable.

Even player like Lautaro Martinez and DCL would probably be too expensive, with their clubs looking for fees in the 70m+ range, which seems very steep for players who are yet to prove themselves over longer than 18 months at the highest level.

The cheaper take a "punt" type strikers could be worth a look, players like Patson Daka or Odsonne Edouard. Players with big potential but could be available for under or around 30m as they haven't proven their worth in a top league.

Personally, I don't think the club will look at either the very top end, they have already started circulating stories of poverty and limited amounts of money to spend this summer. I just don't see them going big on a 100m+ player. While I doubt they would seriously spend on a player who has yet to prove themselves.

I think if the club goes into the market for a striker this summer they'll go down the middle ground, going for a player who has to an extent proven themselves in a top league, but one who isn't considered a huge star yet. Players like Andre Silva (someone I'm not keen on), Luka Jovic, or Ollie Watkins. A player who'd cost between 40-60m at most, a player who could step up, or remain a solid squad option. Whether that is the best option remains to be seen.

Personally, I'd like to see us go for Ollie Watkins. He's quick, good in the air, links play well, is creative, makes unselfish runs with clever movement and as a bonus is British which its always good for the club identity to have a solid British core. Personally, I think he's a much better player than DCL.

Of course, the club could always go in a different direction entirely and maybe sign Dybala or Benzema in a swap deal for Pogba with Juventus or Real Madrid.


1.) 15 Apr 2021 16:52:40
I’m going to be contentious, Kane will be 28 in July which is about peak age for a striker, but his injury record had been iffy. He missed 17 games 2 years ago and 16 games last year. Admittedly he has only missed 3 this year but for the money involved I would be concerned.

Really don’t see Watkins being good enough, we need players who will improve us immediately, we have enough promising youngsters so we need to add a couple of top players across CB, DM, CM (if PP leaves), and CF. I doubt we will buy 4 and certainly not 4 big money ones so it will mix and match, that’s why Cavani made sense.


2.) 15 Apr 2021 17:07:07
You forgot the twilight players like Mandzukic, Dzeko etc.


3.) 15 Apr 2021 18:30:49
I think we need more leaders in the team as we have a relatively young squad.
Therefore an established striker and a leader like Kane fits the bill.
He is at his peak and would add great quality to our team.


4.) 15 Apr 2021 18:45:33
If we can do it financially, I think Kane would be perfect. He’s at an age where he doesn’t block greenwood, McNeilll, Hugill- in fact he would be perfect for the three of them to learn from.


5.) 15 Apr 2021 19:35:02
Is Haaland already a top class forward? I would go with Kane if his injuries are not a problem. If we can't buy Kane then there in no reason to pay a big fee for an "average" striker like Belotti. Go with someone like Ings as stop gap and save the money for Bellingham.


6.) 15 Apr 2021 21:00:09
100% Kane would be the best option for a striker.

But he would cost a minimum of 150m, and that's if Levy would even consider selling to us.

That would mean no other signings this summer, it would probably mean selling several players to make money to finance the deal.

No new CB.

No new CDM.

No new RW.

No new back up keeper.

We would probably have to sell several players who could recoup big fees. DDG, Pogba and Martial would all likely have to be sold.


7.) 15 Apr 2021 21:55:19
sounds OK to me.


8.) 15 Apr 2021 22:14:01
For 150 millions i would say no Shappy. I don't think a center forward is priority. So i would go with a stop gap and improve the team in other areas like cb rw.


9.) 15 Apr 2021 23:49:04
I think Kane screwed that up when he signed a new contract. Gave Levy all the power for a big increase in wages no doubt.

If Kane is not happy with Spurs direction then he has pretty much made his bed now. I would be surprised if Levy would sell to us.

He would be my dream signing though for this team.


10.) 15 Apr 2021 23:49:15
I think Martial is better than many listed including Watkins and DCL. Kane, Haaland or Ronaldo for me or stick with what we have.

If there is a limited budget I'd focus on Martial and Greenwood. We Hugill and McNeil knocking on the door.


11.) 16 Apr 2021 05:02:26
I think if Cavani decides to stay we will go again with the strikers we have with maybe Greenwood seeing more play in that role alongside Cavani and Martial.
Haaland would be great but he won't come due to agents view of the club.
Kane would be perfect for next few years but Levy has been adamant he will not be sold to PL club.
We have holes all over that will be more pressing.
If Cavani leaves then I can see another short term option coming in.


12.) 16 Apr 2021 06:43:58
Utd Road, 100% Martial has more talent than many of those listed, yet this season he has scored less than HALF the number of goals that either DCL or Watkins have scored, while he plays in a better team that in spite of what most of us feel have actually created more chances than either Villa or Everton.

Someone like Watkins might not ever be capable of the peaks that Martial is capable of. Those individual moments of brilliance. However, he will be a solid 7 out of 10 every week, he will always work hard and leave 100% out on the pitch. While his hard work and selfless attitude will make space and create more quality chances for players like Rashford, Greenwood and Bruno around him. Elevating their performances.

That's the issue with team play, having a team full of Galcticos means you have the most talent on the pitch, but they don't always work well together.


13.) 16 Apr 2021 07:25:05
What's the point in buying a striker at the sort of money Kane etc would cost. In fact what's the point in buying in any striker, even a free agent? We have Cavani, arguably still one of the best operators out there. How many chances do our players provide for him? No matter who you put up top he will still only get X amount of chances provided by this team. Spend the money elsewhere in my opinion.

{Ed077's Note - Kane is quite good at creating chances for himself, and others. But I do think the likes of Haaland and Jovic would struggle to score anywhere near the amount of goals they have in the Bundesliga.}


14.) 16 Apr 2021 07:32:18
Martial is no galactico he is a clown.


15.) 16 Apr 2021 08:03:55
I think when it down to money, finding a buyer for Martial and wanting to keep Greenwood developing we either keep Cavani or go with what we have.

Ollie Watkins isn't Dwight Yorke level, maybe one day but he needs another 2 seasons. Micheal Ricketts had one good EPL season and a England cap.


16.) 16 Apr 2021 08:59:49
Scooby, I 100% agree. I've said that if it were up to me I'd sign a creative RW long before we sign a ST.

I also have reservations about spending a huge amount on a young striker when we have Greenwood doing well in the first team and showing glimpses that he might be ready for a bigger role. Along with Hugill and McNeil in the academy showing huge potential.

Do we really need a 22 year old striker who'll be first choice for the next 10 years?

Had it not been for his injury I'd say Raul Jimenez would have been an ideal signing. 29 years old, EPL proven, style of play would suit our team. However, his injury and how well he returns from it have yet to be seen.


17.) 16 Apr 2021 09:12:13
Cristiano as CF would be a super expensive but an amazing signing.
Cristiano would score 30-35 goals given his excellent movement and finishing.
Don't think we'd be ambitious enough to pull this off.


18.) 16 Apr 2021 09:33:02
Blimey. Shappy agreed with me. Feels like winning the internet for a day 🤣🤣🤣.


19.) 16 Apr 2021 11:18:11
Agreed with you in 7 paragraphs but disagreed with you in 9 paragraphs it was to hard to determine who he was agreeing with in the other 6 paragraphs. Not even sure he agrees with himself in those 🤣🤣.


20.) 16 Apr 2021 22:15:31
🤣🤣🤣.


 

 

12 Apr 2021 12:30:36
What is everyone's opinion big Mason Greenwood?

He had a big impact when he came on yesterday. He was the first teenager to score and assist as a sub for us since Ronaldo in his debut season 18 years ago.

He is also 2 EPL goals away from matching Rooney as our highest scoring teenager in the EPL. 3 goals and he takes the title outright. Which considering he doesn't turn 20 until October he will have at least another 15 league games to score 3 goals.

People talk about his potential and obvious comparisons are made to wunderkids like Haaland and Mbappe, which I think are a little premature. Yet I think he has a similar level of potential. The difference is that they have been given first choice status in teams that are playing well.

Also players develop at different stages, Rooney developed hugely in his early teens, maybe hitting a plateau in his early 20's. Ronaldo on the other hand developed at a slower rate in his teens by comparison but went on a massive upward trajectory in his early 20's catching up and surpassing Wayne.

So just because Greenwood isn't going toe to toe with Mbappe and Haaland right now, it doesn't mean he never will.

He has the most lethal shot off of either foot, great balance and good movement. He has pace and great technique. But the most promising thing is he seems to have a great attitude, things started well for him then he had some off field issues. Yet he is now showing great character to not just over come them, but to have worked on his game and be better than before.


1.) 12 Apr 2021 13:25:36
greenwood has 2 brilliant feet, does anyone know what foot he actually is, you see him score with his left and then he right, they are both just as good.

he is the best player to have for rw and is only 19, give him 2-3 years player consistently with better players around him and i think we generally have a potential world class player.

forget about buying sancho for daft money, let's develop mason and use funds for other positions.


2.) 12 Apr 2021 13:27:02
Greenwood's potential is massive.
As he is not our first choice striker, I hope we don't sign a RW.
Because he needs game time which is the absolute vital thing to continue his development.


3.) 12 Apr 2021 13:28:10
Is this another one of those posts where whatever we say will be completely wrong? ;)

I don't see a superstar in the making personally, he's got a great shot and is good with both feet, and is preferable to Martial. I don't see a statue being placed outside OT in 15 years.


4.) 12 Apr 2021 13:29:17
He's great. I wouldn't worry about comparisons to be honest. As long as a player is improving that's all you can ask for.

I think he has the world at both his feet. He's lovely and silky on the ball. Has a good footballing brain. He will only improve.

Even when he's not scoring, I find his link up play to be better than most. He's very positive on the ball.

He needs to keep just doing what he's been doing and he'll end up being in our team as long as he wants.


5.) 12 Apr 2021 13:44:48
I think Greenwood will suit playing down the right in years to come as Rashford has playing down the left. They both benefit from the angles that playing in those positions creates.


6.) 12 Apr 2021 15:19:04
For me Mason is out best player upfront for the past months. His overall game have improved such as build up play and the work rate as he is helping a lot more Bissaka down the right side. He presses well too and close down opponents. I think he matured too, not (too many) dribbles for the sake of it and not (too many) shooting from everywhere like Rashford does many times. Although last year he scored more goals i think he has improved and became a better player. Of he continues his progress next year and the year after he would be ready to lead the line.


7.) 12 Apr 2021 15:20:27
He’s young and talented, he could go either way. I think he has huge talent but I’m not sure about his attitude. I’ve been told by someone who has come across him that he’s a Billy Big Boots which isn’t great at the best of times, and certainly not when you haven’t yet achieved much.


8.) 12 Apr 2021 15:33:06
Of course not Spenno, only time will tell if you're wrong. I see a player with top draw potential, a player who looks better than Rashford did at the same age. But that's the joy of football, we all see something slightly different and have our own opinions.

Peter, I'm torn with Greenwood. He might benefit from playing wide for a few years in a similar way to how RvP developed. Who is the player he is most often likened to. However, I feel Rooney's time on the wing actually stunted his development and slowed his growth.

I think Greenwood long term is a striker, he is much better at finishing chances than he is at creating them, the further he is away from the goal the less often he'll get to use his biggest talent.

Henry played wide early in his career and even when playing as a striker would often drift in the wide half spaces to pick up the ball and turn.

The issue I find with playing Greenwood wide is it creates unbalance as we have too many goalscorers and not enough goal creators on the pitch with Rashford on the left and another striker centrally.


9.) 12 Apr 2021 15:38:45
Mason is outstanding and has the potential to go right to the very top.

His composure on the ball is excellent, and he really is an outstanding finisher. Yesterday his cross was out of this world, there have been a number of good crosses from him this year which no one got on the end off. His goal was excellent and it showed a little bit more variation from him in the box, he is coming good now.

I think by the time Mason is 23 or 24 you will see why those in the club rate him as such a special talent.


10.) 12 Apr 2021 16:01:21
Despite him not scoring as many goals this season, I’ve noticed a distinct improvement in his play off the ball and his decision making on it and I think a big part of that is down to him playing alongside Cavani. If he can keep his feet on the ground and continues to get opportunities to play alongside world class attacking players, I think we might have something truly special on our hands.


11.) 12 Apr 2021 18:40:05
I don't think has less talent than Haaland. I would go further forward and say that he has more qualities and better all round game than Haaland. Haaland has the physical attributes edge, if he had similar size with Greenwood I would say our boy is better.
If Greenwood keep working and grow a lot more physicaly then i prefer him as he too have great finishing, he too is smart but i think he is better technically and has a better all rounded game. If i had to compare i would say Haaland is a better version of Lukaku (similar style of play) and Greenwood has similar style of play with RVP. I would go with RVP because he was something more than just a goal scorer.


 

 

11 Apr 2021 15:18:32
In our entire squad only Bruno (16) and Rashford (10) have more EPL goals than Jesse Lingard (8).

While Jesse has managed that in less than half the time having not scored until February.

It's amazing what a little confidence and a change in scenery can do for a player.

I genuinely don't think Jesse could have managed his current scoring feats at United.

I think that highlights that it's a whole different level of pressure and expectation playing for Manchester United.

Someone has mentioned that Young, Darmian, Lukaku and Sanchez all played in a winning Inter team this weekend.

They aren't bad players, we have a scouting network, we don't sign bad players. However, I would question not the players ability but their mentality.

We sign talented players, but do we sign players with the mentality fortitude and ability to overcome the pressure and expectations that will be on them when playing for our club.

Martial is a prime example of a player with top tier ability, but the mentality fortitude of a baked bean. As such he has moments of pure class, but most of the time he plays like a wet wipe.

We need a scouting network that can dig into the personality and background of the players we are looking at as much as watching them play on the pitch. That way we might have more players who can handle the pressure and get us where we need to be.


1.) 11 Apr 2021 15:52:27
I would imagine this is why players are scouted thoroughly. Anybody thinking Lingard should be back in our squad needs their head wobbled. We should use this form to get a bigger fee.

He's playing in a team that are playing well, against teams that don't automatically sit deep. Different kettle of fish completely playing for Man Utd. He had long enough to nail down a place in our squad and failed.

Move him on.


2.) 11 Apr 2021 16:09:10
Or just maybe Shappy, they are being used properly elsewhere. Young is a former PL winner with us. Sanchez has won numerous titles. Lukaku is only behind Ronaldo in seria a goal scorers list. How many do our forwards have? Inter Milan themselves are a huge club and someone who are surely breaking Juve's stranglehold on the title.

Although i wouldn't want Lingard back but feel happy for him that he is scoring goals.


3.) 11 Apr 2021 17:22:36
Knowing our history with players we’ll probably double his wages and give him a 5 year deal. The club is run by clowns.


4.) 11 Apr 2021 19:52:29
United Addict, I think its far more nuanced than that.

Different leagues, different styles of play, different tactical set ups, etc.

Young wouldn't be able to play every week in the EPL at the age 35 as he does in the slower more sedate Serie A. Same with Zlatan smashing the goals in at 38.

Darmian looked great in Serie A before we signed him but looked pants in the EPL for LvG, Jose and Ole. So let's not pretend it was just one managers tactics. He just couldn't adapt to the league. But back in Serie A and he looks good again.

{Ed077's Note - Wasn't Young playing week in week out for u* before his week? Also except for Lukaku the rest of the players you guys are talking about are squad players. Hakimi and Perisic play as first choice wingbacks for Inter whilst Lautaro Martinez plays alongside Lukaku.


 

 

 

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18 Apr 2021 13:34:23
At the time when we signed AWB I said on here that I thought Max Aarons would be a better fit for us.

He suits a side that will have the majority of possession and needs their full backs to get involved in the attacks.

I think AWB is a great player with huge potential. Just always felt his biggest strengths come when defending, which isn't something a full back should be doing too much of at a top club.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we signed Aarons that within 18 months he would be first choice and AWB would be reduced to a back up role.


 

 

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17 Apr 2021 12:19:27
You can say that again Ken😂.


 

 

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17 Apr 2021 09:48:18
Richarlison is one of those players a little like Nani, clearly hugely talented, but seems to struggle to consistently play to his ability.

Just as capable of having a 5 out of 10 performance as they are a 10 out of 10 performance.

I like him, he has a really competitive attitude, but unless he can turn the talent into consistent performances then he is in no way worth the 70m+ that Everton would demand for him.


 

 

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14 Apr 2021 10:24:52
Ed002, at 29 with another 2 years left n his deal I do wonder what is in it for him if he were to move away.

He'd almost certainly be on lower wages, would probably be injured and unable to play just as often, and like you suggest probably at a team in a lower division.

Hardly inspiring reasons to quit United.

Might as well sit tight take his wages and leave on a free in 2023, unless the amateurs activate the one year extension clause then he'd get an extra years wages for nothing more than keeping the physio busy.

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14 Apr 2021 09:44:12
I find it sad that Jones would need to drop down a division, when fit I think he is comfortably a mid table EPL player. I do wonder where his career will take him next, he is on massive wages, even more so for a Championship club.

I guess with Jones where will always be a feeling of what might have been had he not picked up so many injuries.

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19 Apr 2021 13:47:50
Stand, this isn't something new. How many of us mock the signing of new sponsors but enjoy the club flexing its financial might in the transfer market.

We are a long way from the core of footballs roots. Most EPL teams struggle to name British players for HALF of their starting 11, let alone a team full of local players. How many Mancunians have you seen regularly play for us in your life time?

If you ask most United fans to name their favourite United player, most wouldn't name a British player let alone a Mancunian.

How many of Manchester United's fans were born in the shadow of Old Trafford? How many have even been to Old Trafford? That doesn't in anyway diminish their connection to the club, but just highlights that our club is a global club now, and it has been for a long time.

If you want something pure, something untainted by everything that football has become then get yourself along to your local non-league club every Saturday and stand in the rain to support them. As the reality is that is the only part of football that still has its soul.

I don't think its fair to come on here and demand the club make expensive signings like Haaland or Kane this summer then complain about the club attempting to protect it's income.

How can you demand the club spends 120-150m on one player but have an issue with the club attempting to ringfence its income to enable those sort of transfers?

I agree I don't like what has been proposed, but the reality is I have supported a club all through the 90's, 00's, and 10's that has exploited its popularity to increase its wealth. I'm a long way a way from being able to claim some moral high ground or faux outrage at what was always the next logical step for a club that looked to increase its wealth long before the Glazers rocked up. In fact the Glazers were only able to buy our club in the manner they did due to the greed of the former owners.

I appreciate that for some people this might be the straw that breaks the camels back, but let's not pretend we weren't aware of the mountain of straw that was there before.


 

 

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19 Apr 2021 12:11:41
Yeah, normally it's in his third season.


 

 

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18 Apr 2021 20:54:32
Football is dead, long live football.

This is all about money. Manchester United, Liverpool Chelsea etc they all know the truth, people around the world tune in and pay a premium to watch them and not Fulham, Sheffield United, or West Brom.

It just so happens that this week the "big clubs are playing one of the smaller clubs this week.

When 30 or 40 million people world wide watch an EPL game, who do you think they want to see? Manchester United or Liverpool or are they watching to see the team they have never heard of.

So you can see the big clubs logic, if it is their name the prestige of their club which is drawing in the audience then why should the other club receive half of the revenue?

It's unsavoury and we don't like to talk about it, but this is just the natural progression. When is fans want to see our club sign the next world star for 100m such as Haaland, then those fans must accept that the money needs to come from somewhere.

We wear United shirts made by poor people in far flung corners of the world, paid a pittence or in some cases not at all.

Same for all the merchandise with a United badge slapped on it.

You're kids Manchester United wallpaper, their Manchester United pajamas, your Manchester United coffee mug or key chain.

People taken advantage of and we are the consumers of that. All to bring glory to our club, to sign the best players and have the best chance to win titles.

So we can hardly take the moral high ground and tut at the next money spinning step like it's gone too far.

When we say we are the biggest club in the world that is though selling our club worldwide.


 

 

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18 Apr 2021 13:38:25
Great to see so much love for Mason Mount, he has been absolutely brilliant since Frank brought him back and put him in the starting line up.

In my little dream world I'd love us to sign Mount and Rice and play them alongside Bruno to create one of the best midfields in the league and Europe.

Add a creative wide player and move Greenwood to CF with Rashford on the right.

Bring in a couple of CB's and suddenly we'd have one of the best first 11's in Europe.


 

 

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17 Apr 2021 10:08:04
With the current global state no one is likely to offer enough to make it worthwhile selling Pogba.

Frankly it's a ridiculous position to be in and one entirely of the club's own making.

Pogba has wanted to leave for three years, yet bar a brief period under Jose, he has been the perfect professional. He has trained well, played whenever asked and remains a cheerful positive presence in the dressing room.

The issue for clubs interested in Pogba is that his club form hasn't been to a world class level for a couple of years, while he had picked up a lot of niggling injuries in that time. Which makes paying a big fee and matching his large wages a bit of a gamble. While most of the club's looking at Pogba don't desperately need a midfielder, and look to focus their summer plans on other areas.

I think the best scenario for everyone concerned would be for Pogba to stay another year and leave on a free.

For Pogba he gets to move to the club of his choice.

His agent will make to most money from a bosman transfer.

The "buying" won't have to spend a large fee on him, and can focus on other areas this summer.

For United they keep one of their best players without having to replace him this summer. Meaning they can focus on signing key players in other positions.

For United the reality of selling him this summer is accepting a much lower fee for Pogba then having to spend more on his replacement who probably won't have as much quality. Or accepting a swap deal for a players they weren't really interested in signing.