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05 Jun 2020 14:31:50
Ed002, Is there anything in the report today that United hold an interest in Benfica's Florentina Luis? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware. Florentino Luis (DM) is irst choice for Milan. PSG and Marseille interest has moved on - Milan will offer players to make a deal but needs to talk with new coach first.}


1.) 05 Jun 2020 15:01:51
Thanks, I didn't think it was likely. Personally from what I saw of him last year he looked a top young talent. He has struggled a little with injuries this year though, but at the right price one I think someone should take a punt on.

{Ed002's Note - And DM should not be a priority for MU.}


2.) 05 Jun 2020 20:02:52
Ed, is that to say that you are aware United currently aren’t prioritising a defensive midfielder, or that you don’t think they should be doing so? As much as Matic is still a solid option there I think he should be second choice, and McTominay is not a defensive midfielder. A player like Thomas Partey or Wilfred Ndidi would massively improve our side and provide a lot of balance, and give Bruno and Pogba all the cover they need.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United and Matic agreed a new contract. Priorities are elsewhere.}


3.) 05 Jun 2020 21:42:28
Sancho the primary target Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Putting aside the concept of "primary target", Sancho is wanted by MU but the overall price might be an issue.}


 

 

22 Apr 2020 07:40:34
A new rumour but of a player leaving. Supposedly Spurs and Jose are interested in Diogo Dalot.

Would you guys accept selling Dalot to Spurs?

I'm a little torn, the lad is clearly talented, yet a combination of injuries and the signing of AWB have limited his chances.
Also with the emergence of Brandon Williams and Ethan Laird waiting in the wings with AWB and Shaw as first choice. Do we need Dalot?


1.) 22 Apr 2020 08:26:00
for me he is one of the best crosses we have, is he going to push wan bissaka for a starting spot at right back?

you need competition for each spot so for me i would keep him and have 2 young right backs fighting it out.


2.) 22 Apr 2020 08:33:07
He can play rb, rwb and RW. He is talented and play on the left. However he has suffered from injuries, which has hindered him. Unless we get a very good offer for him I'd keep him.

{Ed004's Note - I like Dalot a good bit. He always comes across well in interviews. He has been very unfortunate with injuries. Unless an offer comes in too good to refuse I would keep him. If he is sold however, I would move Williams to right back and probably pursue a left back to compete with Shaw. Not sure who. I haven't been following leff backs closely this season. An outside bet, maybe Saka and convert him to a left back}


3.) 22 Apr 2020 10:27:33
I would sell Dalot. Good player but not better than Wan Bisaka. OGS may promote Laird and make a profit on a squad player and use that money towards Bellingham cost.


4.) 22 Apr 2020 10:29:33
I too really like Dalot for all of the reasons mentioned above. He has also helped with settling Bruno in so quickly.

I would be tempted to give him at least another year.

However, the ultimate driver will be how our other RB's perform.

Ethan Laird was far more highly rated than Brandon Williams before Williams got his chance in the first team while Laird was out injured. If Laird has a good loan next season he could end up doing so well that we have another "Henderson" situation where we have young player clearly good enough to be in and around our first team but with a couple of very good players ahead of them in the pecking order.

If that was to happen then maybe Dalot might need to move on for his own good at that point.


5.) 22 Apr 2020 12:09:21
I'd actually keep him and play him further forward on the wing, he would still be a squad player but I think he would flourish there, he has a decent delivery too.


6.) 22 Apr 2020 11:20:32
Ed can I ask why you’d move Williams to right back with laird coming through? Laird is the main reason Williams plays on the left in the youth teams apparently. I don’t know about anyone else, but I quite like a right footed left back, I’m not sure why. Might be the Denis Irwin memories!

{Ed004's Note - I prefer having a right footed player as a right back and same for on the left side. It makes overlapping easier and showing someone down the line onto your stronger tackling foot is more ideal. Laird could probably do with a loan and I'd be concerned about how many injuries he is already picking up in his young career.}


7.) 22 Apr 2020 12:57:35
I reckon laird will be second choice right back going into the season if he can stay fit. Think there’s a cracking player in him.


8.) 22 Apr 2020 13:03:24
Do we really want to let a clearly talented raw young player move to a premier league rival.

Fair enough if we need the money to finance other transfers but i doubt spurs would be willing to pay a significant sum for dalot.


9.) 22 Apr 2020 13:40:45
For now he is a good back up player as he can play at both left back as well as Right back position.
Only downside is his poor injury record.


10.) 22 Apr 2020 14:01:44
ED004,

I hope we get of other players before Dalot. Maybe with Covid etc some of our players get a rest etc which may help them in the future with injuries they have had.

{Ed004's Note - I wouldnt be looking to move him on. There's a host of players that should leave before him. Just if the price was right I wouldn't object}


11.) 22 Apr 2020 14:54:33
He shouldn't be going anywhere and he will be top class ina few years.

Portugues players always a have a strong worth ethic and a fighting ability! .


12.) 22 Apr 2020 15:57:48
Right now No. We have too much business to do as it is with potentially anywhere from 5 to 8 first team players being sold and 3 -4 coming in. Why add the extra work to our load. We need 2 players for every position any how. If AWB got injured Dalot would be first choice.


13.) 22 Apr 2020 14:33:55
Ed004, Irwin, Maldini, Lahm are three great left backs who were naturally right footed.

While in recent seasons Young has looked better at LB than he did at RB despite being right footed.

If you're a good defender then I don't think it matters all that much. As long as the player is comfortable there.

Williams is more than capable of playing LB. As is Laird for that matter.

I think between AWB, Shaw, Williams and Laird I don't see us needing another full back even if Dalot was to leave (which I doubt he will) . Given that Shaw at 24 is the oldest of them we shouldn't need a full back for quite a while, assuming that Laird can make a similar impact as Williams and they both continue to grow and improve.

{Ed004's Note - I dont think we will sign a full back either tbh unless Shaw or AWB were to leave and neither of them look likely to go}


14.) 24 Apr 2020 12:03:54
I can see Dalot and AWB fitting into the team in the years to come. In my opinion AWB could become a good CB option.


 

 

25 Mar 2020 11:41:28
The world is a dark and uncertain place currently. So, let's discuss something a little lighter.

Odion Ighalo has been a breath of fresh air, he offers us something different and according to several sources been a positive influence on the dressing room.

So do we sign him permanently for the reported 15m deal that we have lined up? Or do we look to sign someone else?

The positives of signing Ighalo are that he is already settled, wouldn't take a significant amount of time to negotiate a deal, would be relatively cheap, wouldn't block Greenwood long term.

The negatives are that he hasn't yet proven himself for more than a few games, his age means we are only likely to get 2-3 years service from him. Then for some people he will lack the superstar pulling power, while some might prefer we sign someone to oust Martial and be genuinely first choice which Ighalo isn't likely to do.

For me it really comes down to what we do with Martial? As the question of whether Martial is going to be first choice or not will ultimately dictate whether we sign a genuine world class striker to replace him, or a top quality back up striker.

This season Martial has scored well when fit, but without fully convincing. He never leaves you with a feeling he gave his all and did everything possible to win the game. Which is fine when we win 2 or 3 nil, but in those games we lose or draw people will always question whether we might have got a different result if we had a striker who worked harder or made more gambles with making runs.

However, his recent performances have shown more application, and maybe with more reliable passes coming from midfield (Bruno) maybe Martial will make more of those runs and score more goals.

Personally I think Martial has shown just (literally by the skin of his teeth) ability and application to be given the chance to lead the line next season with more creative players behind him. Martial along with Greenwood who with a full season under his belt (one where he has scored 12 goals in 15 starts) offer pace and very lethal finishing. Maybe adding someone with experience like Ighalo could offer us a back to goal work horse striker who could help round off the younger two strikers games.

Add to this that very few top level strikers are available, and those that are cost a lot and are difficult deals to get over the line. Kane for example would be 120-150m at least, Martinez has only had one good season and looks set to sign for Barcelona. Aubamanyang is a possibility but we have got our finger burned signing 29 year old forwards from Arsenal in recent years. He is only a year younger than Ighalo but would be 4 or 5 times the cost in both fees and wages.

Then consider that this summer with the current world situation means deals will be extra difficult to complete. There is concern from clubs that throwing large sums of money around when many people will have lost their jobs and be under extreme financial difficulty might seem crass or provide backlash on those clubs. Also how much money clubs have to spend might be reduced if the season isn't completed with a reduction in TV money. While movement of people will be difficult, there might still be restrictions on international movement. Thirdly, most clubs work on a sell a player and bring in a replacement, this might take longer to sort out with clubs maybe being more restricted about where they can bring players in from and finding a suitable replacement will likely take longer. Finally with domestic seasons possibly being extended there is a issue with many contracts ending in June which will need sorting before incoming transfers.

Personally I think we would be best placed to bring in players from within UK boarders where possible to avoid restrictions or clashing with leagues being extended outside of the UK that could be on going. Therefore signing someone like Ighalo might make sense for many reasons.


1.) 25 Mar 2020 11:55:27
Ighalo should stay atleast for 1year as along as he accepts bench role.

Unless Martial is sold which is unlikely i don't see any of the strikers linked with utd accepting to sit on the bench.

Martial has improved recently along with the whole team and still there is Greenwood.

Martial, Greenwood and Ighalo are good options with different applications.


The club needs to focus on the Rw, DM, and AM positions especially if Pogba leaves.


2.) 25 Mar 2020 14:47:43
Sign ighalo and spend wheres its needed the most - cdm, right wing, cam and a rapid cb.


3.) 25 Mar 2020 19:36:53
Keep him. Rashford will be back next season too and if we get Sancho I think we will have a very creative front line.

Sancho would be my priority signing.

Then a DM - Zakaria, Soumare, Neves.

That would be my first 3 signings. Then we would need to look at a new CM if Pogba were to leave and a new CB if we were able to sell Jones and Smalling.


4.) 25 Mar 2020 22:36:35
Shappy - I think the re-building of this Utd team is almost complete. I've always maintained we were only 2-3 players away from having a very good team. That being said wether it'll will be good enough to challenge the likes of Liverpool and City remains to be seen.

Fernandes has now given us a creativity and goal threat from midfield we've been sorely lacking and just emphasises how the right player can re-galvanise a team and improve those around them. Fred and Mctominay look capable of forming a solid partnership providing industry and discipline in midfield.

Maguire has stiffened the defence, AWB is defensively one of the best full backs in the league and Shaw finally looks capable of fulfilling his potential. I think we probably need a bit more pace and physicality alongside Maguire however Bailly has looked promising since his return and I still have very high hopes for Tuanzebe.

Rashford and Martial have both shown glimpses of real quality and added a touch more consistency to their game. Ultimately their upper ceiling may just dictate how successful this Utd team will become.

In my opinion a RW should be our next priority signing. We need to bring balance to our attack and we need a consistent presence and threat from the right side. Sancho would appear to be our main target and a front four of Rashford, Fernandes, Sancho and Martial looks a mouthwatering prospect. I know Martial
divides opinion but I think he will be given another season to prove himself.

What we perhaps lack most is strength in depth and maybe it's this that needs to be addressed over the summer. Having said that many of our promising youngsters will be another year older and more experienced.

The world has been turned upside down by recent events and we just don't know what the landscape will look like when football returns.

In answer to your question I think the Club will probably sign Ighalo on a permanent deal. He's settled in quickly and made an immediate impact. He's appears content with a squad role but will fight for his place and has proven he is capable of making an impact when required. He certainly adds depth to our attacking options and gives us something others don't.

Could we see one superstar leave and another arrive in the coming months.

A first 11 of De Gea, AWB, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, Mctominay, Rashford, Fernandes, Sancho and Martial isn't too shabby.

I wish everyone the very best in these most unnerving and surreal times. Stay safe guys and look after each other.


5.) 26 Mar 2020 11:09:17
I would keep Martial but I wouldn’t rush to offer Ighalo a new contract. He has done really well but it was and should remain a short term fix. The focus should be on bringing someone in who we can rely on for 2 or 3 seasons.


6.) 26 Mar 2020 11:15:00
Apparently Ighalo has been offered two years contract worth 400k by his club.


7.) 26 Mar 2020 13:06:26
I read that it’s a 4 year deal and think he’d be mad not to take it.

I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen of him since he came to the club and would be happy if he stayed with us next season, but let’s be honest, once Rashford is fit again it’s likely that he’ll be a bit part player for us.

When it comes to players over 30, we seem very reluctant to offer more than 2 year contracts.

If it comes down to choosing between being a superstar in China and earning more than £80m over the next 4 seasons or earning just over £12m while barely playing for us over the next two seasons, I think he’d be a fool not to take it.

I understand that it was always his dream to play for us and respect that he took a cut in wages to make that happen, but the money being offered by SS could keep his extended family in riches for the next few centuries.


8.) 26 Mar 2020 15:58:38
I think we should keep Ighalo unless Harry Kane is a serious possibility. We need strength in depth and Ighalo offers something different. Rotation without weakening the team was one of Fergie's main strengths.


9.) 26 Mar 2020 17:07:48
If Ighalo is happy to stay for a year or two i think we should make his loan permanent. Sign Sancho for RW, Van de Beek or Niguez to replace Pogba and Koulibaly to replace Jones and Smalling. A luxury would be that Bellingham kid everyone raves about to replace lingard / perriera.
A dream match day 18 for next season would be:
DDG, AWB, mcguire, Koulibaly, Shaw (or) Williams, McTom, Niguez, Bruno, Sancho, Martial, Rashford. Subs; Ighalo, Greenwood, Fred, Matic, Dalot/ williams, Lindelof, Romero.
Rotate James, Williams, Tuanzebe, garner, Bellingham, Mata, bailly as required.


10.) 27 Mar 2020 19:10:12
Sancho will be essential as that would be the first out and out winger the club has had in nearly a decade.

CDM to come in, Zakaria seems to be the name touted.

Ighalo was signed as a short term fix and that's how it should stay. Mertens available on a free and would provide great support to the front three.

If they could add a centre back such as Upamecano who is young strong and quick, I think you would have a top 3 side there. I feel like we might have to wait another year yet to get a complete side. But the below could be a target:

Henderson - De Gea
Shaw - William's
Maguire - Lindelof
Upamecano - bailly
Bissaka - dalot
Zakaria - Matic
Bruno - Fred
Pogba - Mctominay
Martial - James
Sancho - Greenwood
Rashford - (Mertens? )

That's easily a top 4 side with a chance to work through the champions league.

Leaves Jones, Rojo, Smalling, Pereira and Lingard to find a new club though. Fifa transfer market but a boy can dream.


 

 

04 Mar 2020 15:17:23
Ridiculous rumour time, apparently Harry Kane would be open for a move to Manchester United rather than spend the next few years at Spurs while they under go a rebuild.

Now putting aside the fact that Kane might be one of the best fit strikers for us. Or the tantalising prospect of United signing both Kane and Sancho in the summer and lining up next season with the English trio of Sancho, Kane and Rashford.

How ridiculous is this rumour? He would be happy to leave Spurs because they are in the middle of a rebuild and he wants to win at least one major trophy in his career. So he would be happy to move to United even though we are in the same boat as Spurs at the moment in that we are in the middle of a huge rebuild.

Seriously you can't make this stuff up. Well not unless you live and work in the fantasy world of sports journalism.

The only way I could see any chance of this happening is if Pochettino is being lined up to replace Ole in the summer and Kane knows this and wants to go join his old boss.
Although there is a wonderful irony of Kane wanting to win a major trophy so he follows the only "top drawer" manager never to have won ANY trophies.


1.) 04 Mar 2020 15:53:58
Sounds to me like Neil Ashon PR guru is working his magic.


2.) 04 Mar 2020 16:26:45
I don't think that would make much sense unless it ends with United actually signing Kane. If this is an attempt to unsettle and eventually sign him then its a risky move. If not then it just increases the fans expectations with them ultimately feeling let down when a move doesn't happen.


3.) 04 Mar 2020 17:03:49
I would suggest that Kane is sending a message to Spurs that unless they invest in a team capable of winning things, he’ll go. As for the link with us, we’re one of the only clubs that could afford him, and I’d sell Martial and bring him in in a heartbeat, despite his injury problems, if it was possible.


4.) 04 Mar 2020 17:06:03
Sounds too good to be true Shaps. Like you said, there is a sliver of hope if Poch joins but otherwise it’s most likely wishful thinking. The thought of Kane in a Utd shirt is mouth watering. Genuine world class no 9 that we haven’t seen leading the line since Rooney in his prime. Would make sense as there are doubts over Martial. But Sancho, Kane and Grealish in one summer is a pipe dream under Woodward/ these owners.


5.) 04 Mar 2020 19:54:02
We don't need him we got igahlo 😂😂.


6.) 04 Mar 2020 20:48:41
I don't think it will happen. But if it did Kane would be the best striker we have had since RvP.


7.) 04 Mar 2020 22:21:54
Even if we got Kane with only Bruno to provide the bullets from midfield I woukd worry.


8.) 05 Mar 2020 00:32:20
Maybe the talk about trophies is just a polite way of saying earning a lot more money than is available at Spurs.


9.) 05 Mar 2020 01:22:32
is it seaon ticket renewal time.


10.) 05 Mar 2020 12:02:27
How much would harry kane cost? £150 -180 million?


11.) 05 Mar 2020 13:28:08
At least, I wouldn't be surprised with him approaching 200m if Coutinho is worth 140m. Kane is English, in his prime, has 4 years left on his contact and you would have to deal with Daniel Levy.

It's not going to happen, just thought it was funny how we have even been linked.


12.) 05 Mar 2020 18:50:30
Probably about 120m max.


13.) 06 Mar 2020 18:19:11
Not a chance Ken. Has years on his contract, won’t down tools, and Levy doesn’t sell cheap unless he has no other option. Upwards of £150m or he simply won’t be sold.


 

 

04 Dec 2019 10:10:25
So here we go, the latest rumour is that Gareth Southgate is one of the top candidates for the club if they sack Ole.

We will not improve by sacking Ole unless the club has people who understand football making key football decisions.

Southgate will come in, struggle much the same way Ole and his predecessors have and the club will just slide further down.

Red Man will be over the moon, another manager who's last job in club football resulted in the relegation of Middlesbrough to the Championship from the EPL.

A man who has won less than Ole, has never been at a top club as a player or a manager, and someone who doesn't even understand the culture of our club.

But don't worry sacking the manager will work, it's always worked before.


1.) 04 Dec 2019 10:25:25
it doesn’t matter who comes in, in the short term they’ll pick up a few extra points but until there are wide scale changes behind the scenes we will not progress. As Ed002 often says we act like amateurs. We then proceed to call ourselves the biggest club in the world. Maybe we should act like it.


2.) 04 Dec 2019 11:03:57
Exactly Shappy.
Whoever the manager is, will struggle with a team having midfielders such as Fred and Andreas.
The squad depth is so thin in quality that 1 or 2 injuries severly impacts the team.


3.) 04 Dec 2019 11:33:51
Nail on head there Shapps

With Ole now there's no point in changing anything however I do think Ole is underperforming but the change in management would only result in marginal improvement for a cost of going back to square one.

We will come Jan 1st how seriously the club are backing Ole.

As for the future I want to see the Direction come from above in whatever role - sporting director / director of football.

That needs to happen first or we are are stuck on the same wheel.

Looking at the scouse that's basically what they did when they sorted out their transfer committee. Different problems but similar solution. Every business or team or organisation is led from the top and a reflection of their priorities.


4.) 04 Dec 2019 12:16:53
The point that there's no point in changing the manager because the squad is poor is a ridiculous one.

Is Ole getting the most out of this squad of players?

If your answer is "Yes". Then you are lying.

If your answer is "No". Then why would a decent manager not be able to get more from them?


5.) 04 Dec 2019 12:38:37
Because mumbles we've had decent managers who failed to get anything from them. The first signs of trouble and certain players hide. Or cause stuff behind the scenes.


6.) 04 Dec 2019 12:47:37
Mumbles, look at the past record. We sack a manger, we get slightly better results for a while before it all comes crashing down again.

A new manager probably would get better results than Ole. But who would that manager be and are they good enough to lift us back to the top?

Will the new manager be able to bring in the players required? Or will they have limited impact on transfers?

What happens when the new manager slumps?

Sacking Ole will only provide a short term bump without long term changes being made at the club. The club runs the risk of the new manager potentially damaging the progress of our talented young players. Or upsetting the dressing room.

For what? Would a new manager with this squad be able to get us into the top four this season? Probably not.


7.) 04 Dec 2019 13:11:16
Yeah Mort and they lost their jobs. Why should we afford a manager with average C. V more time than serial winners in L. V. G or Jose?

Jose finished 2nd and was sacked 15 games into a season from poor results resulting in us in 6th place.

Ole has us now in 10th at the same time of the season and two huge games coming up.

Why is a manager that has slowly taken us down the league be afforded more time when he has shown very little to be positive about?


8.) 04 Dec 2019 13:29:10
Shappy you said a couple of months ago that top 4 was the minimum for Ole. Now no manager would get us into the top 4?

Spurs went from no hope to right back in the mix for the 4th position in a few games.

I get your point that the club itself is a mess, which makes it even more important that we have a manager in charge that can get the most out of this squad and Ole is not doing that.


9.) 04 Dec 2019 13:44:07
Because that manager has lost fellaini, hererra, sanchez, lukaku without replacement.
Because that manager was left with darmian and young as rbs, smalling and Jones as cbs, matic, pereira and Fred as cms, no right winger, pogba and matic both wanting to leave.
The results are obviously not going the right way but Ole has:
Gotten rid of dead wood/ bad influences
Bought well in the transfer market, better than I would say any of the previous 3 incumbents.
Bought the signing of the season in Dan James.
Brought through Williams, greenwood and tuanzebe as first team regulars
Has given chong, gomes, garner minutes also.
Given martial back his no. 9 and has trusted him up front.
Trusted rashford at all times.
De gea signed a new contract.
I would say he's improved Williams, greenwood, Dan James and of course Scott mcTominay.
Sure a new manager might get a bounce of wins, of course Ole did but what if an allegri was brought in, would he sell some of these young players Ole has and is in my eyes developing, remember van gaal sold the likes of Evans who should never have left the club.
I still believe in Ole and in what he is doing to transform the club.


10.) 04 Dec 2019 13:53:24
Mumbles, Spurs have great first 11 and a decent squad. They were playing poorly due to issues off the pitch which Pochettino was unable to keep a lid on. This of course wasn't helped by Pochettino suggesting publicly that he might leave if Spurs won the UCL.

All that Spurs side needed was a little stability and some nice words in their ears. They've got that and are now playing to their potential.

I standby both statements, Ole does need to get top four to keep his job, AND I don't think this squad is good enough over a season to get top four.

The club have sacked managers for not getting top four, they have previous for it. Whether they should? Well that's a different question. We have a squad who have qualified for UCL twice in 6 years by finishing in the top 4.
Which suggest this squad has a 33% chance of getting top four.

We aren't good enough, if however we can keep our best 11 fit, play to our potential, and probably get knocked out of most of the cups early then we stand a decent chance of finishing in the top four. But over a 50-60 game season with injuries to key players and the drop off in quality that causes we will struggle.


11.) 04 Dec 2019 15:19:29
if we lose our next 2 games should the manager be sacked?

{Ed047's Note - 100% NO


12.) 04 Dec 2019 16:40:46
100% NO.


13.) 04 Dec 2019 16:50:19
Shappy there's been games this season where only Pogba has been missing from our first team and we've struggled. The last 10 games of last season he had a full squad and we struggled.

He hasn't had it easy the last few games missing midfielders, but you can't make excuses for him winning 1 in 4 and blame injuries.


14.) 04 Dec 2019 17:21:31
Mumbles, name me another outfield player capable of playing to a world class level like Pogba is?

He might be inconsistent, yet Pogba is the only midfielder we have who is capable of making the passes that split the lines and open teams up. I saw a stat the other day that said United score on average 2.72 goals a game with Pogba in the side under Ole, wile we score 1.01 goals a game under Ole when Pogba doesn't play.

Considering that Pogba has missed the last 12 games in the league then that would be an extra 20 league goals we would have scored if Pogba maintained the form he has had under Ole.

Where do you think we would be in the league if we scored an extra 20 goals, hell where would we be if we scored an extra 10? If those 10 goals meant we got 3 more wins rather than two draws and a loss then that would put us even on points with Chelsea in 4th, but ahead of them on good with the extra 10 goals.


15.) 04 Dec 2019 22:15:57
If my aunt was a man she’d be my
uncle bob.


 

 

 

Shappy's banter posts with other poster's replies to Shappy's banter posts

 

03 Jun 2020 13:55:13
Do people think both Pogba and Bruno can play well in the same side?

I'm intrigued to find out, however my gut says that they might unbalance the midfield.

I see shades of Gerrard and Lampard in Pogba and Bruno.
Pogba is powerful runner and athletic player who can do everything, tackle, dribble, pass and score. Very much like Gerrard. However, just like Gerrard he also seems to be a player who wants everything to be about him.

While Bruno is far more focused on scoring and creating goals, and is a master as ghosting into space to sweep home the ball in the second phase of the attack, very Lampard-esque.

On paper many people came up with ways in which Gerrard and Lampard could work together. Yet in practice it never quite gelled.

My concern is that Pogba is even less inclined to do the dirty less glamourous work than Gerrard was before him. Meaning that whoever makes up the third midfield spot in the team has to balance out the offensive set up and provide both the defensive nous and work rate to cover his midfield partners.

For England I think they missed a trick by not playing Carrick in such a role, he was made for it. However, we no longer have Carrick as an option, while there isn't anyone in our squad who has both the defensive nous and the mobility and work rate to cover both Pogba and Bruno.


1.) 03 Jun 2020 14:14:27
Yer they can both play in the same team.


2.) 03 Jun 2020 14:32:01
What makes you so confident jred?

As pointed out Lampard and Gerrard never managed to play successfully together.

While Keane, Scholes and Veron on paper were the strongest midfield trio at the time but never managed to work together.

Great players don't necessarily play well together. It's about creating a balance. I'm not convinced we have the players to balance our midfield if we start both Pogba and Bruno.


3.) 03 Jun 2020 15:09:28
Lampard and Gerrard are completely different players in different teams differnt eras. Nothing to do with pogba and bruno .
Fred or matic can anchor a midfied 3, with bruno and pogba ahead .
Pogba could play in the 2 in a 4,2,3,1. Loads of options to be honest . We will see soon enough.


4.) 03 Jun 2020 15:34:11
Yes they can play together.

I'm not Pogba's biggest fan nor am I one of his biggest detractors, he clearly has an unbelievable amount of ability but lacks the effort to show that every game. No doubt in his time at United he has frustrated fans but there have also been countless times where you see Pogba have the ball or look for the ball and he himself is frustrated due to the lack of options or lack of willingness of teammates to pass the ball forward. The side is playing with more confidence, Maguire is willing to play the ball out of defence and Shaw has looked more assured at left back over the past few months.

Bruno covers a lot of ground and his movement off the ball is exceptional. He has also shown he plays well with the likes of Mata who also moves intelligently off the ball. Bruno gives Pogba another option and vice versa. Bruno also takes some of the creative demand away from Pogba. Another point would be that Pogba would more often than not play deeper than Bruno generally does. Bruno pops up between the lines and this will allow Pogba to advance the ball to him then join the attack as Bruno won't waste that pass and play it backwards every time like so many have during Pogba's time at United.

Whilst I agree finding a balanced side is better than simply putting good players in who don't fit, I think you put Matic behind Pogba and Bruno for now and that is our best midfield.

Fred has had a good season but is better suited against sides where we don't have a lot of the ball. We have a good run in so should have most of the ball in the majority of games. McTominay has mobility and physicality but is still not great with his use of the ball at times.

We've also played 3 at the back a lot in the 2nd half of the season if we do this with Pogba and Bruno in the side there will be even more protection behind them.


5.) 03 Jun 2020 15:37:11
While I agree it's different players in different eras I believe the problems remain the same. A lack of balance in midfield between attack and defence.

Pogba is known for a lack of defensive discipline.

While neither McTominay or Fred are true DM's, while Matic struggles with consistency over a season. Plus he's as mobile as a ship, which is a problem when playing effectively as the sole DM.


6.) 03 Jun 2020 15:49:27
We definitely don't have the perfect defensive midfielder to cover Pogba's lapses in defensive discipline but I'd argue we gain so much more by playing him ahead of McTominay or Fred. None of Martial, Rashford, James etc have shown consistently that they offer a huge threat against sides who sit back. Therefore, we need creativity which Pogba provides much more of than Fred or McTominay.

We have Spurs then Sheff United, our next 6 PL games after those are against sides who either are in relegation trouble or are only just clear of it. Those sides shouldn't need us to play two holding players against them. Particularly as even though Pogba does have lapses defensively, he is an incredible athlete and Bruno also covers a lot of ground.


7.) 03 Jun 2020 16:12:55
Shappy - If Pogba stays I expect him to play slightly deeper in a more disciplined midfield pivot next to either Matic or Mctominay.

I think he'll be asked to get on the ball and create from deeper positions, attempting more penetrative, forward passes into the likes of Fernandes, Rashford and Martial.

I don't expect him to break forward or play with the freedom he was afforded in his initial spell under Ole however on occasions where he does break forward into the box maybe Fernandes will have to drop a touch deeper and fill his position. We could also see Pogba making forward runs allowing Fernandes to drop deeper making both of them harder to pick up. On other occasions, certainly against lower placed opposition and especially at home I can't see any reason why they can't both break forward into the box.

I accept that defensively Pogba can be suspect at times. I don't think he's particularly good at sensing danger or picking up runners from midfield and maybe this is something we just have to accept.

I think it's about players understanding their role, playing for the team and each other rather than individuals and playing with intelligence and discipline.

I'm really excited to see how Pogba and Fernandes link up and if they can hit it off we can look forward to watching some very exciting football in my opinion.


8.) 03 Jun 2020 16:19:08
Rjmanutd - Goods posts pal makes a lot of sense in my opinion.


9.) 03 Jun 2020 17:05:55
Rjmanutd and DLIB, I think you both make great points. Against "lesser" sides that sit deep and allow us possession then I don't think the lack of defensive balance in midfield will be an issue.

However, I would argue that in the most important games against the best sides the double pivot of Fred and McTominay have been vital in us getting results. I'm wondering how we should set up for those games. Do we drop one of Pogba or Bruno, or do we switch shape to something more like 352 and have an extra defender to cover for the lack of defensive discipline in midfield?

I hope it all works out well, my concern is that in the past great players have struggled to succeed in imbalanced teams. Real Madrid's Galacticos spring to mind, and they had some of the most talented players of the time in their midfield including Zidane, Figo and Beckham.

Pogba has been successful only in sides with mobile, hard working defensive midfielders. Vidal, Marchiso, Kante and Matiudi.

We don't have a player like that, I feel we will have to see a new found maturity and defensive team oriented play from Pogba to balance out a midfield that includes Bruno.


10.) 03 Jun 2020 18:00:09
I would guess the 1 of the other 3 midfielders (Matic, Fred and McTominay) will be selected in big games and Solskjaer may ask Pogba to play slightly deeper.

We also change to 3 at the back. I'd expect that to happen against Spurs for example. AWB and Williams as wing backs with Maguire, Shaw and either Lindelof or Bailly at CB. Then have a split front 2 with Bruno behind them.


11.) 03 Jun 2020 18:00:59
Shappy - I share your concerns mate and Pogba's lack of defensive instincts, discipline and some may even argue desire might cause us problems if he wasn't able or prepared to be more disciplined and sacrifice himself for the good of the team in those games.

I think he demonstrated a willingness to do this during the World Cup and I remember him performing particularly well defensively against a very good Belgium team where he was effectively in dealing with the threat offered by Fellaini.

Whether he would be prepared to do this consistently at Utd in a team perhaps not competing for the top honours remains to be seen.

Maybe in the bigger games we could revert to a 3-4-1-2 in order to give the team more defensive balance and solidarity.


12.) 03 Jun 2020 18:48:19
The game has moved on more than one way to defend,


13.) 03 Jun 2020 19:21:08
With the games coming thick and fast until end of season we will see several combinations. All should be well rested and biting at the bit. Pogba should slot into midfield alongside bruno with matic in behind. I'm sure that's his preferred formation and i'd say by a mile they are our 3 best midfielders. Can they gel? I see no reason why not. I think pogba will be busting a gut i hope so anyway.
Mctom and fred will see plenty of action too.
Im looking forward to seeing them play. Although i don't enjoy the German league its not quite the same watching any football on tv without the fans.
Have they decided on the fa cup and euro comps yet?

{Ed002's Note - The plan remains the same - August.}


14.) 03 Jun 2020 20:02:14
Is there any break scheduled between the end of this season and the start of the new one?

{Ed002's Note - For most clubs there will be a break.}


15.) 03 Jun 2020 20:43:20
I think we could probably probably go 532


DDG

AWB
Lindeloff
Maguire
Bailly
Shaw

Matic
Fernandes
Pogba

Martial
Rashford

Or

4222

DDG

AWB
Bailly
Maguire
Shaw

Matic
Mctominay

Pogba
Fernandes

Rashford
Martial


I think could be too short defensively in a 433.


 

 

01 Jun 2020 08:04:15
So there is this will he won't he thing going on in the media at the moment with regards to Odion Ighalo.

Yesterday many outlets saying an extension was close, today a few saying we have failed to reach an agreement.

It seems like there is a chance of a extension until January dependent on when the Chinese season starts, when he would be allowed to travel, what United are prepared to do/ offer.

If the club signs Ighalo until January what do people think will happen with looking at signing a striker this summer?

The club clearly needs another striker, Martial struggles with injuries, Rashford is much better playing wide and Greenwood hasn't got the experience yet to lead the line week in week out.

Signing Ighalo untill January solves that issue until then, but January is always a difficult window to buy in. Especially with the Euro's 6 months away at that point. Players playing well won't want to risk a move before an international tournament, those playing badly I can't imagine the club would be thrilled to sign.

So does the club extend Ighalo's loan until January AND sign another striker this summer. Giving us 4 strikers for what is often just one place in the starting line up.

It's a tricky one. I think that by the end of next season Greenwood will be pushing Martial for his first team place.

So do we go with Ighalo until January and then really give Greenwood his chance to shine?

{Ed004's Note - It is a tough decision. Ideally we would sign him until August and maybe push for Werner who has a very reasonable release clause. However, if he is not obtainable or if it hampers our ability to purchase Sancho/a right winger, then I would be happy to keep Ighalo until January and revisit the position then. See if Greenwood can step up}


1.) 01 Jun 2020 09:06:50
I would go for an established striker to play alongside Martial Someone like Jimenez or Josh King who are both options with Premier League experience.


2.) 01 Jun 2020 09:36:25
Ed004, clearly Werner is a fantastically talented player. However, I'm sure he is the right fit for our team.

He plays in a similar way to Henry, staring as a central striker but dropping to the left inside channel in the build up.

This is the same way that both Martial and Rashford like to play when starting centrally. When playing together Rashford and Martial have developed a partnership with them switch between positions.

I don't think signing a player who is very similar to players we already have is the best way to improve the squad.

Ighalo has made an impact in the few games he has played by staying central, being that target man.

We need that sort of striker, a fox in the box, clever movement in the central areas to sniff out chances and occupy defenders making space for wide players to run in to.

That's not Werner.

{Ed004's Note - That is a very fair assessment of the situation and would be my only concern as well. Although Werner would then be an easy upgrade/replacement/alternative too either Rashford or Martial then as well. But then it impacts the game time of James and Greenwood.}


3.) 01 Jun 2020 10:19:28
Personally I'd sign Ighalo permanently on a two year deal with an option for a third year.

We then have a different sort of striker, with experience, with a great attitude.

He won't block Greenwood and it will give us time to see how Greenwood develops and to see if Martial can step up to be a 20-30 goal a season striker.

We can then look to the market in a couple of years time to either replace Martial or find a player who offers something different.


4.) 01 Jun 2020 11:04:58
Glad you don't pick the transfers Shappy also the mention of Josh King is diah as well.

Need top class, not rubbish to go with Martial, Martial is average.


5.) 01 Jun 2020 11:45:25
Fully agree Shappy, Greenwood could save us a hell of a lot of money in the next couple of years.


6.) 01 Jun 2020 12:11:43
Dan James, that message didn't age well😂

Club announce Ighalo deal until Jan 2021. Obviously the club feel he's worth keeping.


7.) 01 Jun 2020 12:21:08
My first choice BEFORE we signed Ighalo was Raul Jimenez. He ticks many boxes and he still does. Great link up play, scores, EPL experience, right sort of age etc.

Yet Ighalo has come in and shown enough to suggest that he could be an interesting option. He would cost about a third of what Jimenez would, while is only just over a year older. However, his game has never been about pace, so we won't have to worry about his legs going.

I think if we didn't have Greenwood then I'd want to go for someone younger.

Yet Greenwood who was 17 at the start of the season, has scored 12 goals and 4 assists in a team that until Bruno arrived have been struggling to create good quality chances.

The lad has phenomenal talent and we should have one eye on his development when we consider who we sign in forward positions.


8.) 02 Jun 2020 11:15:55
Yep low price stop gap right up Woodwards street. Ole is clueless on transfers re: igalo and king, if he rates them he must think Martials world level.


9.) 02 Jun 2020 14:47:48
Funny for someone who uses the tag DanJames you seem to be annoyed that every signing isn't a proven world class player.

Looking at Greenwood I think a short term stop gap is the right choice. Especially with the current global situation and how that will likely impact the football transfer market.

I would rather the club be able to focus on signing someone like Jadon Sancho than trying to split their focus between signing a RW and a ST, especially when that striker is likely to be a back up role.


10.) 02 Jun 2020 19:03:40
Need more than Greenwood and Sancho to be challenging for top honours.


11.) 03 Jun 2020 15:19:42
DanJames, Sancho has scored 20 goals this season, both Rashford and Martial would have scored 20 goals each had they not suffered with injuries, Greenwood has scored 12, could well score 15-20 if played more, Bruno has scored 18 goals, while Pogba has been out injured all season and was our top scorer last season.

So that's Pogba, Bruno, Sancho (if he signs), Greenwood, Rashford and Martial all capable of scoring between 15-20 goals each next season. So we have plenty of goals in the team.


 

 

28 May 2020 15:44:22
I see today that the press are reporting that Real Madrid are prepared to include Martin Odegaard as part of the Pogba transfer.

I have no idea if this is true, or whether Odegaard would want to move to the club. But off all the possible players offered as a part-exchange Martin Odegaard might be the only one I would really consider.

He fits the mould of a creative player capable of playing either from the right or in the No.10 or maybe even slightly deeper.

If we aren't able to get Sancho then maybe Odegaard to play on the right wouldn't be an awful option, and actually has potential for plenty of upside.

I don't think it really makes much difference but the Norwegian link with Ole as manager might play a role.

What is everyone else's view on Martin Odegaard?


1.) 28 May 2020 16:23:19
Looks like he’s started improving once the spotlight was taken off him. I wouldn’t mind seeing him come here. Definitely an option.


2.) 28 May 2020 16:46:46
"creative player capable of playing either from the right or in the No.10 or maybe even slightly deeper" seems like the description about Mr. Bruno Fernandes Shappy.

Although Odegaard is one of the few players on an upward trajectory instead of downward like most of the other players rumoured to be available for a swap deal I think he might be very similar to Bruno in the positions he takes up but I must admit I haven't seen too much of him to be dismissive of him. Maybe both Odegaard and Bruno can play either side of a DM.

Maybe ed001 can help. Do we have a profile on him, they are very helpful in understanding a player.


3.) 28 May 2020 18:01:17
Deependra, Bruno has never really played wide right, he has played through the middle, often on the right of a midfield three, but also as a No.10.

Odegaard started his career on the right wing, but at Real Sociedad has played the No.10 role regularly. It is thought that he could play deeper in a midfield three in a similar role to Modric at Real Madrid.

So in that respect I agree that the area he often drifts into might over lap with the areas Bruno likes to play in.

While in my opinion I feel we need a RW who stays wide more often than not, which isn't really how Odegaard plays when out on the right.

So he isn't a perfect fit. I'm just considering all options. In the event that we don't sign Sancho for whatever reason, and that the only way to sell Pogba is to accept a player in part exchange. Then in my opinion Odegaard might be the best option available as many of the other players offered either don't play in positions we are looking at or they are clearly on the downward trajectory of their career.
Odegaard bucks that trend somewhat in that he plays in areas on the pitch where we are looking to strengthen, and is young and on an upward trajectory so fits the sort of profile of player we seem to be targeting recently.

In a perfect world we sell Pogba for 120m+, and sign Sancho. The reality is we will need to compromise and be a little more creative this summer.


4.) 28 May 2020 18:51:18
Fantastic to hear Odegaard may be a swap option. Be interesting to see what Real value him and Pogba at.

Don’t suppose they’d like to throw Varane in too? ;)


5.) 28 May 2020 19:01:09
id be happy with odegaard. he has really been growing into a fantastic player. he was having a stella season. he has an eye for a pass and can dribble. i think if we can offer first team football it might encourage him to come. the main problem is who to buy to replace pogba.


6.) 28 May 2020 19:09:53
No more round pegs in square holes.


7.) 28 May 2020 20:29:32
I wish we’d stay away from square pegs round holes. We need a right winger by trade, plenty can fill in there when needed but we need a proper winger there.


8.) 28 May 2020 21:55:45
If we didn't sign Bruno then I would be up for him. But why would we take a player like him to sit on the bench and not get regular first team football.

He a number 10 and we also have Mata and Andreas aswell. Also I would consider to a lesser extent Angel Gomes even though I'm not sure where his best position is yet. I wouldn't sign him as winger as then you stopping the progression of Daniel James and Taith Chong.


Regarding transfers. I honestly think it going to be Jack Grealish and a permanent signing of Ighalo. Outgoing maybe Jesse Lingard will be the biggest player leaving. Can't see Pogba going as I can't see United settling on anything but a really good offer

Sancho would be ideal but again can't see United spending 100 million on him. Maybe if Pogba goes then the club might be willing to spend

Honest opinion though I hope we give the likes of Angel Gomes, James Garner, Taith Chong, Levitt and Laird a chance next season. I rather promote within generally. Biggest question mark to address is the LW and RW this summer. Rashford is ok on the LW and its Daniel James preferred position so its not as needy as the RW.


9.) 28 May 2020 22:46:18
Utd Road and Red Whiskey, I agree we shouldn't be looking trying to fit players into positions that they aren't comfortable in.

There was a rumour that we are looking to sign Grealish to play him on the right. Which sounds like a terrible idea.

However, Odegaard has played as many top flight games on the RW as he has at No.10, while he played the majority of his youth career out wide as well.

As far as wingers go he is more like Hazard than Bale when playing wide. In that it's his starting position but he tend to play more on the inside channel than the outside. While his dribbling is more about technical quality rather than pure pace.

So I wouldn't consider playing Odegaard wide right as putting a square peg in a round hole. All in all its probably the position he has played in most throughout his career.


10.) 29 May 2020 09:32:58
It's ok Real Madrid offering all these players but the magic question is do they want to come and play for United? Remember the Angel Di Maria situation. He was pushed in to leaving Real and United were the only takers, basically he didn't want to be here.
I wouldn't touch any of them, i would demand cash or nothing.
We want players who are desperate to play for the club not these mercenary's that stay for 1 season and then decide they want to leave because it's to cold in Manchester. I've had enough of that crap for the last 5-6 years.


11.) 29 May 2020 10:41:08
Simo, that's a fair point. I think in certain circumstances Odegaard is the only player from Real Madrid that they are likely to offer AND I think talent, age and playing position wise I would consider taking. But that would come with the caveat of him actually wanting the move.


 

 

27 May 2020 14:55:39
I sometimes wonder if sport brands such as Nike and Adidas purposefully "leak" various versions of new football shirts to get some online feedback before choosing/ finalising the design.

So many "fake" leaks happen every year, often with many of them looking very professional.

Just a thought.

{Ed002's Note - No they don't do that. When they want opinion for fans they will typically ask members of supports groups and the clubs to comment. It is not uncommon for clubs to reject designs.}


1.) 27 May 2020 16:32:58
I didn't really think they would, that's why they have focus groups etc.

I just find it odd how often a "fake" shirt shows up then the "real" shirt often looks like a revised version of the leaked one.

I suppose it could be early designs that are being actually leaked.

I'm just surprised really that what the new shirt looks like is so important that there is a whole leaked shirt thing every year.

{Ed002's Note - It will be just kids and photoshop.}


 

 

25 May 2020 14:23:43
Can I just say, our club gets a lot of bad press for the way it is run. With many suggesting that money is prioritised over football.

Yet during this crisis I think our club has got every decision spot on. From the vocal support of the NHS, to the refusal to furlong staff now the club is waiving the remainder of loan fees owed to the club from lower league clubs to lessen the burden on those club's lower down the football pyramid.

Class from everyone at the club, makes me feel proud of my club even when no football can be played.


1.) 25 May 2020 15:07:27
Fair play to the club, hopefully a few others will follow suit and ease the burden on the lower league teams.

{Ed002's Note - At least two clubs have already done this.}


2.) 25 May 2020 16:15:30
Ed002, I wasn't aware other clubs had already done it. I think given the circumstances it's the least EPL club's can do.


3.) 25 May 2020 20:52:23
Have to agree, we give the management board some stick, but we should also praise them for gestures like this, well done to the club.


4.) 25 May 2020 21:40:32
Hiring that PR guy seems to have done ya some good. Any maybe Ed is finally getting his act together and now that he need not worry about who the manager will be next season we can start planning ahead.


5.) 25 May 2020 16:29:48
Apologies Ed002, fair play to all of them in that case. The lower league clubs are the ones who will be worst affected by this so it's good to see the bigger clubs helping them out in any way.

{Ed002's Note - But it is not enough. They need to do much, much more.}


6.) 26 May 2020 11:39:31
Regarding Ed002’s comment that Premiership clubs need to do much more to help those lower down the football pyramid do you think we could see official feeder clubs established now between Prem and lower league clubs? Surely if it’s a case of survival all options may be on the table now. Appreciate owners having more than one club / investment in a club per FA is prohibited currently for good reason. Or do you believe, what I think is more likely, there’ll be a natural cull now of many clubs. I personally think lower leagues will be decimated and there’ll be a restructuring of the league. Could easily lose an entire division.


7.) 26 May 2020 11:39:31
Regarding Ed002’s comment that Premiership clubs need to do much more to help those lower down the football pyramid do you think we could see official feeder clubs established now between Prem and lower league clubs? Surely if it’s a case of survival all options may be on the table now. Appreciate owners having more than one club / investment in a club per FA is prohibited currently for good reason. Or do you believe, what I think is more likely, there’ll be a natural cull now of many clubs. I personally think lower leagues will be decimated and there’ll be a restructuring of the league. Could easily lose an entire division.

{Ed002's Note - Premier League clubs in general will not want to take fiscal responsibility for lower tier sides. Some use feeder clubs (e.g. Manchester United built a relationship with Royal Antwerp) for loans and experience. FIFA has spoken with UEFA and a number of sides about formalising the situation where one club can directly own another (like Monaco own Cercle Brugge and are running a B Team there) and allowing a holding company (say Red Bull) to own multiple sides and remove the two restrictions (a) they cannot be in the same League and (b) they cannot meet in the same European competition (which led to the restructure of the RBS ownership). This is another concession to try to fend off, or at least run and manage, a breakaway. They also spoke with the Spanish FA who have it built in to their league charters that the "B" sides cannot be in the same League and have said they will not concede on that point - which should end this attempt to build more power for themselves. Their selling point will be to save some clubs from going out of business.}


8.) 26 May 2020 17:03:56
Agree with you there Ed002.they do need to help a lot more, whether or not it happens remains to be seen.

{Ed002's Note - Not every club is in favour of it.}


9.) 26 May 2020 20:34:53
Thanks Ed002.

I think there’ll be a breakaway from UEFA within a few years. Timetable of any structural changes to leagues could be massively fast forwarded though due to C. V.

A European Super League is inevitable.


 

 

 

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05 Jun 2020 15:01:51
Thanks, I didn't think it was likely. Personally from what I saw of him last year he looked a top young talent. He has struggled a little with injuries this year though, but at the right price one I think someone should take a punt on.

{Ed002's Note - And DM should not be a priority for MU.}


 

 

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04 Jun 2020 18:27:06
Ed002, there were some rumours a while back about United being interested in Mohammed Salisu, is there anything to those rumours? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Mohammed Salisu (CB) Norwich were very keen on taking the Valladolid centre back in January but may face opposition from Wolves, Southampton and Everton. Manchester United and Valencia have been credited with scouting the player by his club, but they have also said the are in talks with Atletico Madrid.}


 

 

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03 Jun 2020 09:30:49
Greenwood turns 19 in October. He has shown he is more than capable of being a first team member, he has scored more goals in his debut season than Ronaldo (5 goals in 31 appearances for Sporting), Rooney (8 goals in 37 appearances for Everton) and Messi (8 goals in 25 appearances for Barcelona) .

Greenwood has 12 goals in 37 appearances (although many of those are as a sub, he has played around 1450 minutes which equates to around 16 full games) .

Now I'm not saying he will be as good as those players, there is a long way to go in his career. Yet all of those players were first team regulars in the following season, while Greenwood has shown he can have a bigger impact in his debut season. So I think he is ready to play more regularly next season.

That is why with Ighalo signing I don't think we need another striker who'll only block his path and his development.


 

 

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31 May 2020 17:41:21
Fabrizio Romano has said this has nothing to do with a transfer.

Which seems to make sense. Saul has always appeared pretty commited to Atletico, at least publicly. I can't imagine he would announce himself leaving before the season is finished.

I'm expecting some sort of sponsorship or the other to be announced.


 

 

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30 May 2020 13:41:51
Clearly you haven't read those articles which have been published by highly regarded peer-reviewed journals. Getting work published in these journals isn't easy and if the science doesn't stand up then it doesn't get published. So the work they have done is statistically sound, otherwise it wouldn't be published.

Obviously you can always do a wider review, collect more data and improve the quality and accuracy of the outcomes.

I don't think I'm an expert, but from what I have read which is peer-reviewed in highly rated journals and is scientifically sound, it is clear that the major and key factor in home advantage is based on the crowd.

Playing the game doesn't mean you are able to understand statistics or the key factors that can determine a result. Football employs huge numbers of people working in sport analytics, most of which have never played football at even a semi-professional level. So are the clubs wrong in hiring these people? Of course not they in many cases are top people in their field.

{Ed001's Note - lots of studies in peer-reviewed journals are wrong and use false information which is later disproved. Perhaps if you knew as much as you think you do, you would understand that. Also, as usual, you fail to understand the points. Football is not appointing sports analytics and taking their data at face value, they are using it as a start point because they know that the data is inherently flawed due to the lack of numbers involved. Teams are only playing 19 league games at home in a league season, that is not enough to plot results-based data from and draw conclusions. Especially when you consider all the other variables involved, such as team selection, tactics etc.

Just ask yourself, if the home crowd is the key to all of this, why do Dortmund not dominate the Bundesliga over Bayern every season? Their home crowd is not just larger, but significantly more vocal. Why don't Turkish teams, who have the most vocal and intimidating crowds, dominate in Europe?

Oh and I never said anything about playing the game making you understand statistics. But it certainly helps you to understand what makes you as a player perform better and what factors affect your performance negatively. The point is that statistical analysis of results and goal data is not usable or relevant as there are too many other factors and not enough games played a season to draw clear and meaningful conclusions. You have no control sample to compare it with for it to be of any use scientifically.}


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2020 17:11:08
Mumbles, I don't think its that insulting. DDG would be a Real Madrid player right now if it wasn't for bargain office equipment failure.

He has also by his standards not been as great over the last couple of seasons.

While Pogba left on a free because he couldn't get into the team, Gomes looks like he might go the same way. Jude Bellingham is likely to choose moving to Dortmund because there isn't a clear path into the first team.

Henderson is the best English keeper at the present time, how long do you think he will be happy to be sent out on loan, he is currently on his 3rd or 4th loan already.

If someone offers us a decent amount for DDG we should thank him for everything he has done, and let him leave.

It took years to replace Schmeichel with VDS, while it took a couple of years patience with DDG before he became worthy. Now we have the perfect replacement in our mists, we need to make sure we don't lose him because we are holding on to DDG for too long.

If you look at DDG's 3 best seasons none of them have been in the last two years. We might be 4 years since DDG peaked.


 

 

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06 Jun 2020 16:08:18
I think Firmino offers you something very different from most forwards. Certainly Mane and Salah would score significantly less goals if Firmino wasn't there. The fact that more often than not if Liverpool have dropped points Firmino wasn't part of the side in that game.

However I get the point about how a team sets up. Three years ago when DDG was at his peak someone like Pep would still not have picked him because he looks for something very specific in his goalkeepers that is a weakness in DDG's game. So it's not as straightforward as being a great player means you walk into any side in the world. I think there are only a few players worldwide who are so good you'd completely change your team to fit them in.

I think a fairer way is to ask is there any side in the world that wouldn't want Firmino as an option in their squad?


 

 

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06 Jun 2020 13:33:55
Utd Road, Bayern have a very clear structure and strategy when it comes to recruitment. They rarely get involved in bidding wars for top established players.

They look for players with world class potential and bring them into an already established side. Often choosing to shop in the Bundesliga as that means that players adapt easier while they also weaken their opponents.

Many people point to Barcelona or Real Madrid as a model we should adopt, but for me what Bayern do is far better. Bringing players through their academy, purchasing the best players from their league and looking to bring in players who they can lift into the world class category rather than bringing in players already considered world class.


 

 

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06 Jun 2020 13:29:03
If we are judging players by how they play for their national team then can we take Messi out of the equation for best player of all time.

International football is a very different beast, in some ways much easier that club football in other ways much harder. Some players thrive in one or the other, some do in both. But not excelling in the international stage for me doesn't rule a player out from being considered one of the best.

Think of the Golden Generation with England. Most of the players were top top, world class players for their club sides. But they couldn't replicate that at international level.


 

 

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06 Jun 2020 12:11:38
Personally I feel that integrating Henderson as soon as possible is best. I think he is the long term solution to our GK position.

That said, I don't think DDG and Henderson will work in the same squad. Both are too good to be back up or to share the role. While DDG is on a huge deal and with the current situation it seems unlikely anyone will pay for him and match his current wages. I can see only three or four club's that might look to sign DDG. The two Madrid club's, but for Atletico to sign him it would be as a replacement for Oblak if he were to leave and DDG would need to accept a pay cut. PSG and Juventus who are both on the look out for a new GK in the next year or so.

I think if someone was to make an offer for DDG this summer we should take it and make Henderson our No.1. However, if no one makes a move then we should keep DDG as first choice and loan Henderson back out to Sheffield United after giving him a new contract.