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16 Oct 2020 10:38:29
"Paul's our player, he's going to be here for another two years and I'm sure Paul is focused on doing his best for us and we want to see the best of Paul. I'm sure in the next couple of years we'll get the best out of him. "

Solskjaer's most recent comments about Paul Pogba. So I doubt he'll be dropped for the Newcastle game, and it looks like the club intend to activate the one year extension and let him leave on a free in 2022. Poor decision in my opinion, and just shows the lack of leadership, direction and basic understanding of football from the top brass at the club.


1.) 16 Oct 2020 11:19:35
“Pauls head is elsewhere, he has wanted to leave for the past 3 summers, didn't see eye to eye with previous manager like a lot of the squad. Paul is not focused on doing his best for us, i'm sure hell excel elsewhere in the next couple of years”.

Probably closer to the truth but ole is hardly gonma say that in his press conference.


2.) 16 Oct 2020 11:37:01
What about the poor decision making from Old to keep shoe-horning him in the midfield, playing deep when it clearly isn't working?


3.) 16 Oct 2020 12:16:03
It worked pretty well last season post lockdown.

I can't think of a single player who has played well in the league for us this season.


4.) 16 Oct 2020 12:57:35
Just don't play him. Should be easy enough for the manager.


5.) 16 Oct 2020 13:08:01
Maybe Paul Scholes?


6.) 16 Oct 2020 13:15:08
Did it dsg? 2 cup semi finals and a dismal few games before that.
Our best run was when pogba was injured.


7.) 16 Oct 2020 13:17:04
so we will be playing with ten men for the next two seasons then.


8.) 16 Oct 2020 13:20:00
DarkKnight, With Pogba there are three options with him in the squad.

1. Don't play him at all. but the draw back is every time you drop points that decision will be questioned. While if the club weren't going to play him they might have well sold him this summer even if it was for 10m.

2. Play him in a position that will get the best out of Pogba even if that is to the detriment to other players such as Bruno, Rashford or whoever. The plus side is pogba plays well, the downside is others might not. Plus if Pogba doesn't sign a new deal then he leaves after we have built the team around him.

3. Try and crowbar him in at his detriment and not that of other players who are committed to the side. That way if he leaves then he isn't a key player in our squad. While other players haven't had their form impacted by Pogba. While win, lose or draw you can't be questioned for leaving out "potentially" one of our best players.

None are good options, we have an unbalanced squad and a key player who wants to leave. Ideally the club would have moved him on this summer and Donny would have been his replacement in the first team. While Lingard or Pereira could have added depth until next season when hopefully one or two of Garner, Levitt and Mejbri might be ready to push for a first team spot depending on how they develop this season.


9.) 16 Oct 2020 15:02:48
I agree with Ken. Our best run was with Fred-Mactominay double pivot.


10.) 16 Oct 2020 17:38:49
2 guys with limited talent giving it everything are better than a player with lots of talent but not giving it his all.


11.) 16 Oct 2020 17:52:22
Ken, Pogba featured in every unbeaten game since project restart.
His first appearance post lockdown was against Spurs in which he won us the penalty after coming on as a substitute.
Apart from that he started all other matches.

I just feel he is not motivated to play for us. It shows in the lack of effort.
There are times when Bruno busts his guts and tracks back when he loses the ball, but I've yet to see that attitude from Pogba.


12.) 16 Oct 2020 17:55:05
Ken i wouldn't say that the only problem is he doesn't give everything. The 2 limited guys you refer to are simply better than Pogba in this role, they are better defencive 8 in this double pivot role.


13.) 16 Oct 2020 18:27:15
Pogba should be playing as understudy to Bruno, with Fred and VdB and Matic and McTominey fighting for the other two positions.


14.) 16 Oct 2020 18:53:36
Trd read the post.
We have been poor since he came back in the team. I think since project restart we played well twice. Before restart we played well in 7 or 8 games while he was injured. Our form has deteriorated since the restart game by game until now.
Its not just him ole has them all playing badly especially his own signings.


15.) 16 Oct 2020 18:59:08
Given how Pogba has played for the last year he doesn’t even merit a place in the starting 11. If it wasn’t for his commercial/ social media value the club would be working much harder to shift him out. Also, our relationship with Real Madrid is horrendous and I can’t see us ever selling anyone to them under the current environment. I saw Spanish reports that Barcelona were interested and perhaps we could get some players from them in exchange. De Jong would be my top choice, he’s come into some criticism from the Catalan media recently and when that happens then 90% of the time it doesn’t work out well for the player.


16.) 17 Oct 2020 08:07:26
Not sure Real will be Pogba's next destination, aren't they prioritising Mbappe, a right winger and Camavinga next summer?


17.) 18 Oct 2020 06:50:00
He wouldn’t excel anywhere dsg he’s a no good drama queen.


 

 

07 Oct 2020 17:41:33
So according to Fabrizio Romano United intended to sell Pogba to Juventus and bring in Sancho as the big name player to replace him. That would fit with the club signing DvdB who is more of a Pogba replacement.

However, Juventus couldn't raise the funds and as such never followed through with their interest.

Which may have had a bearing on the Sancho deal.


1.) 07 Oct 2020 18:28:32
That makes so much sense - gutted we couldn’t get it done. At least it’s reassuring knowing pogba was intendeded to be sold.


2.) 07 Oct 2020 18:41:25
From January he's free to sign a pre nup with any foreign team. The chance to sell him was this summer. Would be mad if Juventus signed him on a free 2and time.


3.) 07 Oct 2020 19:35:19
Think United can trigger an extra year I am sure Ed002 may have mentioned it but I could be wrong.


4.) 07 Oct 2020 19:42:03
Should have gone last summer. Hopefully we don’t give him another deal just so that we don’t lose him for free.


5.) 07 Oct 2020 20:09:45
Didnt Juve spend over €100million on two midfielders, Artur and Kulusevski in the last window. Sounds like the cash was there if they really wanted Pogba.

{Ed002's Note - No, Arthur was offset by Pjanic. Kulusevski was purchased prior to the pandemic.}


6.) 07 Oct 2020 20:15:11
surley the juve staff could have a whip round for 20 quid.


7.) 07 Oct 2020 20:21:54
Would triggering the extra year with the intention of selling him be classed as profiteering as Ed002 has mentioned before? I don't understand and try to stay clear of the complicated stuff maybe someone could educate me.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs are not allowed to profiteer. They can extend contracts and strike a deal.}


8.) 07 Oct 2020 20:30:08
Thanks Ed, is Fabrizio is basically correct?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he has said but if he told you this he does not understand the situation with these players.}


9.) 07 Oct 2020 20:34:06
That does make sense. But be careful guys, doesn't that suggest our board and manager are not as stupid or inept as they are painted in the media?

Planning for the future and repairing bad decisions? Whatever next, if we aren't careful we might just see plans to source the worlds beat prospects, loan out our talent and not lose them at the end of their deals, reintegrate the ones who shine, and get the ones who don't off our books for a nice little earner we can put into prooer investment in the stadium surrlunding infrastructure, scouting, player acquisitions and uograded training facilities.

Increasing the value of the asset? Having a plan staribg us inbthe fce but we are so busy whining we havebt won the keague we dobt notice?

What a ridiculous thought.

I wish the manager would come out and say whether he believes we should expect to win the league this year, or for the Board to say in advance of the transfer window what we should expect given there is a C.V. so we could show some faith rather than negativity and let the media turn us toxic again! OH, wait a minute.


10.) 07 Oct 2020 20:45:22
I really don't understand the profiteering thing.

I assume it means that the club can't extend the contract by the additional year just so they can sell the player and make a profit.

But if we did extend it and an offer came it, I assume we could still accept it.

Ed02, can you explain the concept in a bit more detail or perhaps point to another source worth reading?

{Ed002's Note - The concept is that you cannot extend to make money but if the player is sold the profit, or a negotiated profit, would go to him.}


11.) 07 Oct 2020 23:48:31
Surely nobody is going to pay £89m for Pogba?


12.) 08 Oct 2020 08:13:27
My understanding of profiteering is that if you have a player like Pogba say, who has a year left on his contract but the club has an option to activate for a further year. Now in theory Pogba could leave for free next summer and receive a large signing on bonus as he is moving on a Bosman. However, if the club activate his year extension only to sell him and make some money thus negating the signing on fee Pogba would receive that is considered profiteering.

Only activating the contract extension to make a profit.

With Pogba United only have three options left.

1. Let him leave for free next summer.

2. Offer him a new deal, either with the intention of him staying here long term or with an agreement to sell him for a fixed fee.

3. activate the one year extension and keep an unhappy player for a further year before losing them on a free.

Ideally the best option for the club now would be to give him an extension and agree to sell him for a set price. He would need to be compensated for that, probably with very high wages, or an agreement that he receives a larger percentage of the transfer fee.


13.) 08 Oct 2020 09:32:55
Don't know if this kind of post is kosher but maybe this is worth a read for those of us who have a genuine interest in how things work.


Transfers report


14.) 08 Oct 2020 11:35:21
Juventus probably ran a mile after seeing his pathetic performances over the last 2 season. I wouldn't pay a million for him, he is sh*t!


15.) 08 Oct 2020 12:15:21
Sim, the sad thing is he isn't. He just isn't suited to being the player you build your team around.

Pogba is better suited to being the luxury player you add to an already great team, the player who can add a touch of magic and win those tight games. But he will make mistakes and be defensively lax.

If he goes to Juventus he will be a success there.


16.) 08 Oct 2020 14:03:25
Shappy he is rubbish. nothing you can tell me will change my mind so stop wasting your time. He's been absolute garbage for 2-3 seasons now. Get a grip!


17.) 08 Oct 2020 14:33:28
This is odd considering Romano spent the whole summer insisting Pogba was happy at United and contract talks would begin after the window closes.


18.) 08 Oct 2020 15:28:15
Romano is full of crap. gets the odd bit tight but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
He makes a fortune through social media. fair play to him he is a bigger con merchant that ole.


19.) 08 Oct 2020 16:27:46
ken, I strongly disagree.
FR is one of the very best and reliable.
Each and every one of his update this transfer window has been absolutely spot on.


20.) 08 Oct 2020 16:23:15
Sim, no player has scored and assisted more goals than Pogba since he joined the club. If he is rubbish then every other member of the squad is more rubbish than him.

If you were to say he doesn't live up to the hype, or that there are clear faults in his game then fair enough. If you want to question whether the club should be holding on to player who doesn't want to be here, or a player who played an active role in getting a manager sacked then celebrated it. Then I'm with you 100%.

But to say he isn't a talented footballer, despite all his managers, coaches, pundits and fellow players all appreciating his ability. Just makes you seem like you know very little about football.

Pogba hasn't lived up to the hype, and he isn't interested in being here and the time for the club to cut their losses has long since past. But the guy has more natural talent in his left leg than pretty much everyone else in our squad.

Pogba is a very good player, potentially great. We as a club just haven't been able to give him the platform he needs to get the best out of him. That's partially his fault for not working hard enough on eliminating the weaknesses in his game, that's partially the managers fault for not getting the best out of him and that's partially the club's fault for not creating a team in which he can thrive.


21.) 08 Oct 2020 18:18:45
Snappy I think it’s fair to say that Pogba was decent. But for the past 18 months to two years he’s been a terrible footballer. Actually he’s consistently put in some of the worse performances I’ve seen in a United shirt. If that means I know nothing about football than fair enough, but I can’t understand how anyone can defend him.


22.) 08 Oct 2020 18:37:18
Shappy what more could we do to create an environment for pogba? Near enough every signing has been to “unlock” him. He’s got all the ability in the world, there’s not much he can’t do with a ball. The frustrating thing is he doesn’t do it for 90mins. His best moments in the United shirt was the city game. Where he was god awful first half.

I don’t think he’s a bad fella at all, but he’s not someone I want Hannibal mejbri for example to be looking up too. He throws his arms about when he loses the ball, doesn’t work hard enough without it either. If he played simple and released the ball early he’d be fantastic, but he’s more interested in looking good. His start to this season has been nothing short of a disgrace. The sooner he’s gone the better for him and for us as a club.


23.) 08 Oct 2020 19:27:39
Pogba is similar to Mesut Ozil for me. Ridiculous amount of talent but lacking the desire to be the best.
Ironically, they are both World Cup winners. I honestly think the problem is players now are so rich that some just lose focus on football.
These guys have hit the very pinnacle of football and have money we could only dream of.
Both seem like decent enough guys who could’ve been up there with the best of their generation but neither will really be remembered as such.


24.) 08 Oct 2020 19:51:41
Ozil has achieved a lot more then Pogba has ever done.

Comparing Ozil and Pogba is laughable.

In regards to the original post, we need to just get rid of Pogba and build the team around a new CM like Niguez if we can get him and move forwqrd as a club once and for all.


25.) 08 Oct 2020 20:20:10
Why’s it laughable Singh?
Both players have bags of talent but have flattered to deceive.
What has Ozil achieved? 3 FA cups? La Liga?
Pogba has a few Scudetto’s and a Europa League medal.
This wasn’t my point though. I used Ozil as an example of another player who has the talent but won’t really be remembered for being a great player.


26.) 09 Oct 2020 00:19:32
Singh I think means Ozil played top level football for more years. Its not only about trophies. Ozil was top class for several years and Pogba is only about potential. Even at Juventus it was more about potential and some flashes more than a top player playing 90 minutes good football every week.


27.) 10 Oct 2020 15:35:48
I think it’s simple really. Pogba has lots of talent but only produces flashes of it because he just ain’t suited to the premier league. He needs a league such as serie a which is less intense/ fast so he has the time to shine. Would do well in the Spanish league too.


 

 

30 Sep 2020 12:20:38
So the most recent rumours are that with a bid for Sancho rejected the club are exploring the idea of signing long term injury absentee Ousmane Dembele, either on a loan deal, a loan with an option to buy, a loan deal with an obligation to buy or just outright buying him depending on who's information you are reading/ listening to.

Would he be a good signing? Well if he can stay fit he would be an excellent signing, when fit there are few better RW's in world football. Quick, clever, able to play on either side, genuinely two footed, good shot and has a moment of magic in his boots.

However, that is if he is fit. There have been some questions risen by his team that Barcelona are responsible for his injuries, while they claim it was a lack of professionalism/ dedication. Recently a report has been leaked that he was late for training and Koeman is unhappy with him.

So, what is the story with his injuries, when has he got them, what sort of injury has he sustained and with what club. On the face of it maybe his entourage have a point that he didn't suffer any injuries while at Rennes or Dortmund. He did suffer two minor injuries prior to joining Barcelona, a bruise and a hip flexor muscle injury which kept him out for a combined 10 days. These are minor mostly impact injuries and as such are not an indicator of an injury prone player.

While at Barcelona though he has suffered 9 separate injuries in 3 years, ranging from an ankle injury that kept him out for 18 days, to three separate "torn muscle bundles" keeping him out for a combined 118 days, he has had another muscle injury keeping him out for 3 day (likely bruising) . While he has suffered 4 separate hamstring injuries keeping him out for a whopping 373 days.

Meaning that during his 3 years at Barcelona he has been injured for 512 days out of 1095 or so days at the club. It is important to note here that the days injured are only counted during the season. The 270 or so days he has been off during the summer aren't included. Meaning that he has been unavailable to play for Barcelona for 512 days out of 825 days that are the three football seasons he has been at the club.

His injuries at Barcelona have meant that he misses around 70% of the available games. The concern with his injuries is that he has repeated hamstring and muscle-based injuries. Could that be down to the training at Barcelona? If that had been the case under one manager then he might have a point, however, different managers run different training regimes, he has had three managers and has been injured under all three. Could it be the medical department? Possibly, maybe they rushed him back, maybe they don't have the expertise to manage his type of injury. However, if that was the case then surely others at the club would be suffering similar injury issues.

Ultimately it would be very difficult to ascertain without detailed medical knowledge and understanding of what has happened to work out whether he is injury prone or just been badly managed. But hey, that's what a medical is for.

If the club are to pursue Dembele then maybe the best move would be a loan with a fix fee option to buy next summer. See if the club can get him fit and firing and i'd so then they could sign him next summer, if not then no harm no foul.


1.) 30 Sep 2020 12:42:27
Wow shappy did you really just spend time calculating all that?


2.) 30 Sep 2020 13:05:21
On his day very good exciting player . has had a lot of issues with injuries last couple of years.


3.) 30 Sep 2020 13:13:16
I hope this is not truewith dembele this isn't about sancho but the lack of intent from the club to be champions again amazes me. U knew the price if u didn't want to pay it where was the ambition and planning to do something else this is all a bit desperate now.


4.) 30 Sep 2020 13:20:56
That is some analysis on his injury record Shappy! If we can manage his injury then we have a fantastic two footed player on our hands.


5.) 30 Sep 2020 13:28:01
RedWhiskey, I find the best way to process a situation is to evaluate it with empirical measurements, look at data, find patterns. That took me 2 minutes to locate that the data on his injury history and about 10 minutes to write that post and do a couple of simple addition sums. Not that long at all. But I now have a greater grasp on his injury history, so rather than going with my gut and throwing my toys out the pram as he isn't the signing I want because I THINK he is injured all the time. I actually KNOW the extent and type of injuries he has had and can have a more informed opinion.

If he can stay fit then he would be a top class signing, because we couldn't be sure of his fitness and loan deal makes much more sense.


6.) 30 Sep 2020 12:59:04
He wasnt even that great at dortmund. Barcelona over payed and now he's a crop

Once you. have the kind of hamstring injury he had it is not the same. Add to all his other injuires and he's still a young player

Another waste of money.


7.) 30 Sep 2020 14:02:21
I read earlier this morning that he had turned us down. Can't say I blame him really.


8.) 30 Sep 2020 14:51:12
Dembele seems a poor choice.
Barca flop, attitude issues, poor injury record.


9.) 30 Sep 2020 14:56:50
Wouldn't touch with my bargepole.


10.) 30 Sep 2020 16:35:10
Sancho and Telles will sign.


11.) 30 Sep 2020 20:20:45
Good response, Shaps. I know many of us appreciate a post with a bit of thought put into it.


12.) 01 Oct 2020 06:28:48
How clueless is this club when it comes to signing players though 😂 my god, shocking.


13.) 01 Oct 2020 16:12:15
I don’t see Dembele coming to us but, didn’t Giggs suffer a succession of hamstring injuries during a fraught period of his career? I seem to recall he did and addressed his issue with expert advice, different training and stretching routine plus adopting yoga as a regular practice.


14.) 02 Oct 2020 08:59:24
Dembele doesn't want to come to us but we are persisting? 🤔.


15.) 02 Oct 2020 10:36:17
We are trying to sign a player against his wish? - well it seems our transfer experts are at it again.


16.) 02 Oct 2020 12:23:01
I don't want him anywhere near United.


 

 

29 Sep 2020 15:17:28
Sancho staying at Dortmund, well according to Dortmund captain Marco Reus.

{Ed047's Note - waiting for Chelsea I guess.


1.) 29 Sep 2020 16:00:51
Hope this is true, never have I felt like a transfer is rubbish than this one. Over 100 million for a player who does not want to come to us, did we not learn with Pogba?


2.) 29 Sep 2020 16:50:26
I disagree Ed. He’ll sign before the end of the window.


3.) 29 Sep 2020 15:57:23
I disagree Ed, he’ll sign before the deadline.

{Ed047's Note - he could well do KG, there is so much garbage printed out there mate. I’m just aware his preferred option was Chelsea.

As I write Sly report he’s not boarded the plane with the rest of the Dortmund squad.


4.) 29 Sep 2020 16:47:21
Surely he will be waiting a while then Ed? Pulisic, Ziyech, Werner, Mount, CHO, Havertz is a lot of investment for 3 positions surely?

{Ed047's Note - a long, long time RR, I think there’s every chance he’ll sign for you, these transfer often go down to the wire.


5.) 29 Sep 2020 16:57:11
What's the surprise in that :)
The selling club always says that.
FR just updated Sancho is still our top target.
CB signing depends on the outgoings.


6.) 29 Sep 2020 17:02:34
I agreed Giggsy. CSF difference is Pogba didn’t want to come back to England. He wanted Madrid. Sancho wants to be back in England at Chelsea but going to Utd is not much of an adaptation to his preference.


7.) 29 Sep 2020 17:52:05
Waiting for Chelsea? Come on Ed047 you still have the same agenda 😛.

{Ed047's Note - don’t you start!🤣🤣


 

 

03 Sep 2020 12:03:00
Rumour from AS is that we have bid for Sergio Reguilon of Real Madrid, who apparently don't see him as an important player currently with Mendy and Marcelo at LB, but would like a buy back clause in the deal. Which makes sense given Marcelo's age. It would allow them to raise funds while maintaining a an option on a future Spanish international player.

Ed002, do you know if there is anything in this rumour? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any bid but numerous clubs have had discussions with Real Madrid about him.}


1.) 03 Sep 2020 12:53:15
Haw anything changed with us? Are we one of the clubs interested now?

{Ed002's Note - As I said. I am not aware of any offer from MU.}


2.) 03 Sep 2020 13:14:21
We have a good defensive fullback in AWB.
Therefore a superb attacking fullback like Reguillon makes sense.

I can imagine him and Rashford tearing up the left flank.

Btw, Real also have Ferland Mendy who plays at LB.


3.) 03 Sep 2020 17:34:17
Leaving Maguire exposed on that side with an attacking fullback makes no sense. We’re always susceptible on that side when LS or BW push forward.


4.) 03 Sep 2020 18:20:17
If an official bid went in then there would be a public response by RM by now I'd expect.
We have quite a few defenders to move on. Rojo dalot jones smalling all need shifting before we can move. Smallings exit is dragging on unfortunatly. Dalot will attract bids but we will they be attractive?
Jones someone might take a gamble, rojo the same but if we got much over 40mm for the 4 of them i'd be surprised but it would take a nice junk off the wage bill too.


5.) 03 Sep 2020 18:23:16
Hence the need for a cb. Sorry but to say we can’t use an attacking fullback because our 80m cb gets exposed says it all. We shouldn’t accommodate for maguires weaknesses fgs.


6.) 03 Sep 2020 18:28:22
It works with 3 CBs, which will:also allow us to play Bruno, Pogba, and DVDB together.


7.) 03 Sep 2020 19:07:20
Seeing as Shaw seems to miss half the season through injuries, having another true LB makes sense. Reguilon also gives the option of a LWB or an attacking LB to offer width if we want to play a diamond.

Also, if (and it's a big if) we were to sign Sancho, it takes a lot of the right sided burden off of AWB - especially as Sancho has more of a tendency to stay wide compared to all our other wide forwards, lessening the need for an overlap. This would allow for us to play a lopsided FB system similar to what Jose uses, with AWB staying more defensive and allowing Maguire and Lindelof to shift left when Reguilon bombs on. With Rashford's tendency to play in the half spaces and in the inside channel, it's more imperative to have a fullback who offers the width and an overlapping option on the left side, and I could see Reguilon being a good choice in this system.

I think he'd be a good acquisition personally, as he would offer cover, competition and more tactical options to allow us to be more flexible. It also would allow Brendan to play on the right as cover for AWB/ come in if we were to play with wing backs.


8.) 04 Sep 2020 06:47:44
An excellent post, Somerset.
My thoughts exactly 👍🏼.


 

 

 

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21 Oct 2020 13:01:01
If we take this performance and result and compare it to our last performance and result against PSG we can see clear improvement. Last night was a mature, measured and well thought out performance, which contrasts with the defend deep, smash and grab performance that ultimately changed Ole from our interim manager into our permanent manager (rightly or wrongly) last time we visited the Parc de Princes.

While much has been made of a fabulous performance and result against PSG, little has been said about our managers role in the result.

We see it here nearly every week, Ole used the wrong tactics, he doesn't know what he's doing and his subs were terrible.

Yet this game showed Ole as a manager who out thought and out manoeuvred Tuchel at every turn. We started out in a 3412/ 532 shape (whichever you prefer), he adapted that in the second half when PSG started to get a foothold in the game, to a 442 diamond shape, placing that extra man in midfield to regain some control over the match, while also allowing and enabling the side to push forward for a winner. Then a final switch to a 4231 shape to see out the game.

All the subs worked excellently, Pogba gave us a player in midfield who the ball could stick to, while he has the vision and skill to create the chance which Rashford ultimately scored the winner from. While the introduction of DvdB and James meant we kept a fresh pair of legs to hit them on the break and stop any chance of them being able to push up on us, while Donny replaced Bruno meaning we kept vision and creativity, but had a more measured player who was less likely to give the ball away.

All subs could have been met by fans with a shake of the head. Telles was having a very good game debut, while Pogba hasn't been in the best of form. Yet it worked brilliantly. James has been much maligned, while Bruno is the fans darling. All subs that had the result not gone our way would have been questioned.

An all round excellent performance from the manager. Beating last seasons UCL finalists.

While one swallow does not a summer make, maybe this highlights that Ole might know a little more than most give him credit for.


1.) 21 Oct 2020 15:57:52
You're right shappy, one swallow does not make a summer. And I am still firmly parked with the opinion that Ole is not good enough.

But to be fair to him, he did get it right last night and it was a thoroughly enjoyable game.

I think next time around PSG won't be so lacklustre though, so we will have to press on in the meantime and hopefully the form and play will improve over the coming weeks.


2.) 21 Oct 2020 15:57:55
Good post happy and I think you miss another point: Ole has had the b*lls to drop Pogba. I argued he was simply rested against Newcastle, but when I saw the starting XI for PSG I was pleasantly surprised. I think Ole already had is PSG XI decided before the Newcastle game, which he used to get Fred and McT up to match sharpness.

I was really impressed with the lineup as it offered hard work, energy and pace.

It's amazing how quick we get the ball from back to front when Pogba doesn't start, and I think the last two games has proved he's more suited to coming off the bench when we need extra presence in midfield. Maybe he's not the £89 midfield dynamo that we thought we were signing, but a good squad player who can offer something different from the bench.

What a huge dvrrence playing LCB makes to Shaw as well, I dare say he looked intelligent in his positioning, always on his toes and confident to step out, knowing that Telles is covering.


3.) 21 Oct 2020 16:38:58
Credit where credits due👏 also with Shaw and Telles on the same side we were able to switch from a back 5 to a back 4 seemlessly while in possession.


4.) 21 Oct 2020 17:08:19
We have beat psg twice in the last 3 games .
We have lost 3 league games since February and people are still waiting for our form to improve?


5.) 21 Oct 2020 18:36:09
Jred are you a child? What point are you trying to prove? Yes we beat PSG but did we lose to Palace, did dinosaur Jose's Spurs embarass us? Till the end of last season, you were singing we were unbeaten since Feb. Now 4 games into the season we have only lost 3 games since Feb.

In the 2019-20 season we ended up with 66 points, same as 2018-19 with just one goal more scored. Chelsea finished 2019-20 season on 66 points while they finished 2018-19 at 72 points. Spurs and Arsenal finished 18-19 season with 71 and 70 points respectively while they had lesser points in 2019-20. So my question to you is that was it us who improved or was it the other teams who regressed?

Theres simply isn't any wrong or right. Its a divided group where neither group is ready to concede and its best that we all be mature and discuss things calmly and not be cynics.

I am sure Every single United fan thinks that Ole got it right yesterday but some agree that he isn't good enough to be a United manager and such results just paper over the cracks. There is the other side who think that we are making progress under Ole and see a clear path. So be it.

I for one enjoyed the last 2 games irrespective of my opinion on Ole so i don't need to be reminded everyday that we lost 3 games since Feb. I will enjoy when we win and play this way and be "moaning" as Stevie put it😂 when we dont.

Simple point is that we all know that United side is capable of playing this way but how many times do they come out trumps like this? that's the grudge with Ole.


6.) 21 Oct 2020 18:59:13
Shan
We tend to come out trumps against
The better teams fairly often.
People yourself included keep moaning but the truth is we have been playing well since the turn of the year
Lost a couple of league since last Feb, won our last 10 away is it?
We are currently on a very good that a few seem to complete ignore .
I'm really not sure what the point your trying to make with your constant moaning.


7.) 21 Oct 2020 19:14:53
Shappy and Shan, I think the question is whether Ole can learn from this win? My main criticism to date is that he has seemed dogmatic about his approach and doesn't adapt it to get the most out of the players he has. Last night he was more flexible and everyone looked comfortable with their roles. He also successfully changed it twice mid game and brought on the right substitutes at the right times. This is something he hasn't done well previously.

I think he is in a better position now with the options available to him. No doubt it makes it easier when he looks at his bench and doesn't see Lingard and Pereira.

Roll on Chelsea and let's hope we can stick it to Fat Frank. Chelsea look shakey in defence so I think we should press hard and Solksjaer should plan his substitutes to replace tired players and keep up the intensity.

If he plays Henderson and Tuanzebe they we can push higher up the pitch.


8.) 21 Oct 2020 20:00:11
We payed well and I was delighted but I’m. It sure it was the master class being portrayed. They are a good team, they had chances, DDG made great saves. We matched them and took our chances, we looked good buts let not analyse it to death.


9.) 21 Oct 2020 20:20:20
"All be mature and discuss things calmly" 😂😂😂.


10.) 22 Oct 2020 08:55:36
Thats the norm now though Tony. We analyse everything till it becomes "done to death". Every win is the start of a new era and every poor performance is like earth is coming to an end. Both sides are guilty of it and i bore with the redundant posts too.

Is that funny Stevie?


11.) 22 Oct 2020 13:29:10
Well it is to be honest, since you started the same post with, 'are you a child jred'. If you can't see the irony.


 

 

21 Oct 2020 08:16:44
That was a near faultless away performance.

Our defence limited Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria to very few shots, and even when they had a sniff at goal DDG swatted them away.

AWB gave Mbappe the hardest nights work he probably has ever had. So much so he ran away to the other wing.

Tuanzebe was a giant, when you think that was his first game since last December. He was immense.

Shaw for me has always looked far more comfortable at LCB than at LB. I think the lessened vertical movement means he gets less exposed.

Alex Telles made a very promising debut.

Even Lindelof looked very assured. Although one note I would make is that PSG hardly played any aerial balls into the box, so none of our defenders really had to deal with that aspect of the game.

Fred and McTominay show that sometimes a functional hard working midfield can be more impactful than a talented one. Both were excellent.

Martial had a mixed night, he did well winning the penalty and to be honest he seemed to scared the PSG defence every time he ran at them. Sadly a good night's work will more likely be remembered for a poor bit of defending.

Rashford could have scored a hat trick and then we would be looking at a 4-1 away win, and a deserved win at that.

Overall a great night.


1.) 21 Oct 2020 09:44:32
Shappy - what did you make of the switch to a back four and the use of a midfield diamond when Pogba came on?!

The back five worked really well but I thought we looked much better offensively when Pogba came on and Ole reverted to a back four and a midfield diamond.

A 1-1 that was a very brave substitution. I must admit I was worried how'd we'd cope defensively with Pogba but It actually really helped as we controlled possession much better and looked a lot more threatening.

I think some have suggested a midfield diamond might just be our best formation and I think we got a glimpse of what it can offer for the last 20 minutes of the game.

It really was a fantastic tactical switch.
We retained the energy and industry of Fred and Mctominay in midfield but I thought Pogba added a real quality and threat to our play and we still had the pace of Martial and Rashford on the break, it was very very very good.

Ole deserves great credit for his tactical acumen. He made a brave, offensive substitution with the game in the balance at 1-1 against a very good team away from home. The last 20 minutes of that game were absolutely brilliant in my opinion and we thoroughly deserved to win the game.

Games are normally won by teams that win the midfield battle. I think this was an area where we dominated when Pogba came on. I just think our strength is in midfield and it wasn't until Pogba and VdB came on against Newcastle that we really ran away with the game.

The diamond can lack width at times but Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and even Cavani are all comfortable in wide areas so I don't see this as being that big of a problem. Telles should give us an extra attacking outlet down the left and even Pogba is decent in wide areas playing to the left of the diamond. I'm not getting carried away but I think there was compelling evidence last night that a midfield diamond could really suit us.


2.) 21 Oct 2020 10:45:44
DLIB, ultimately the difference between 3412 and 4121 is the pushing up of one central defender into midfield, while slightly more defensive reliance on the full backs/ wing backs.

What the can effectively does is move the focus from having an extra body deeper to an extra body in midfield. It’s the best way to shift from a defending without the ball to being more able to get on the ball and therefore defend with the ball by holding possession. While the shift to having the ball higher up the pitch means you are closer to the opposition goal, potentially opening up more goalscoring chances.

The two shapes are very similar and only require the change of one player and the slight adaption to new tactics for a couple of players.

343 or variations of that shape are the most tactically flexible, due to the balanced shape you can effectively and easily change the shape of the team with a single substitution or even just moving a tactically intelligent player into a new position during the game.

For example, we could be set up in the 3412 shape, but be struggling to create as the opposition have blocked up the middle. We have the option of taking off either a CB, or one of the midfielders and bringing on a winger and changing to either 343 or 433, or even 4231. All from one change.

I think for the most part due to our squad not being built for one specific system, due to a number of quick changes in managers who all want different players for different systems. The best way forward is to create a flexible system that can change quickly and adapt to situations in game easily.

This sort of shape system works with most of our players, either playing to their strengths or mitigating their weaknesses. For me, the only two players who stand out as a problem in this system are Pogba and AWB.

Pogba due to his lack of work rate which is needed in the midfield in this system. While AWB isn’t yet consistent as an attacking threat from full back/ wing back.

However, Pogba isn’t likely to be here long term and might have to take a back seat. While AWB used to be a winger at youth level and with the right coaching I’m sure he can become a good offensive outlet from full back.

This shape is flexible, and it will look and feel different depending on the game, the players selected, and the tactics of the game in question. Yet I feel it gives us the best chance to get the most out of most of our players.


3.) 21 Oct 2020 11:30:03
In the last 20 minutes of both the Newcastle and PSG games I've been very impressed with the quality and rotation of our midfielders. We've been able to really take control and dominate the midfield area which has ultimately helped us win both games.

I think there's an argument that we've become too obsessed with width in recent years when the modern game has moved more towards intensity with quicker more mobile players, using short passes and rotation of positions in order to dominate the ball and create space.

The width in the modern game is predominantly provided by the full backs and this may explain why we've struggled in recent years.

I genuinely believe we now have the midfielders that have the ability, mobility and intelligence to rotate positions and move the ball quickly enabling us to dominate the midfield area and retain possession of the ball. This is an area of the pitch I feel we can now really exploit and I feel there has been enough evidence in recent games to suggest that Ole should more away from playing two wingers/ wide forwards and flood the midfield with the likes of Fernandes, Pogba or VdB whilst retaining the defensive balance playing any two from Mctominay, Fred or Matic.

I agree AWB needs to improve offensively but the signing of Telles should provide us with a better attacking option down the left. Pogba remains a frustration but his quality is unquestionable. Hopefully Ole has demonstrated by leaving him out for the last couple of games that grit is equally important to guile and he must work harder for the team if he wants to play.

Is this evidence that Ole is finally adapting and evolving to make the best out of what he has or just a couple of decent results remains to be seen but in my opinion our strength lies in midfield and the key to our season will depend on unlocking this potential and finding a system that gets our best players on the pitch. I'd love to see a midfield diamond used more often and think this could be a really effective system for us.


4.) 21 Oct 2020 12:42:22
I think Ole could sense what we all could see. PSG were there for the taking, hence the switch. I think most thought he would settle for a point after the equaliser, so kudos to him for going for it.


 

 

20 Oct 2020 19:19:07
Happy with that line up. DDG, AWB, Lindelof, Tuanzebe, Shaw, Telles, McTominay, Fred, Bruno, Martial and Rashford.

I don't think this is the kind of game for Pogba. I think three at the back makes sense, while a case could be made for TFM, Tuanzebe is the better player. Fred and McTominay were hero's last time we beat PSG and deserve another shot against them.

PSG have a very mobile midfield three in Pereira, Herrera and Gueye, full of work and running. Matic would likely have been overrun.

Let's see how this plays out.


1.) 20 Oct 2020 19:45:21
Am worried creativity wise. It seems to be a team with a game plan to defend deep but if they mark Bruno properly who else can provide the bullets for our front men.


2.) 20 Oct 2020 20:06:05
Guys we’re away at last season’s finalists. We are right to play cautiously.


 

 

19 Oct 2020 09:42:16
Just wanted to ask the question.

During the summer we were tentatively linked to James Rodriguez from Real Madrid, which was met with a lot of derision and generally negative comments.

Seeing how he has settled to life at Everton has anyone changed their mind? Do people in light of failing to get Sancho feel that James Rodriguez could have been a fine addition to our squad?


1.) 19 Oct 2020 10:01:39
James would have turned into another Sanchez here collecting a ton of money.
At Everton Anchelotti knows how to deal with him hence why he's doing pretty well.

Its still early days and he hasn't had a big run of games yet, but early signs are he's going to do well.


2.) 19 Oct 2020 11:04:02
Not for me I would still wait and get sancho .
I woukd still take grealish over James as well.
With bruno and pogba I don't think we need james type.


3.) 19 Oct 2020 11:10:46
Nah not for me. He’s found his level maybe?


4.) 19 Oct 2020 11:46:20
He has found his level. Big fish in a small pond.
He has flopped and never stood out while playing for Bayern or Real Madrid.


5.) 19 Oct 2020 11:48:37
I see James as a player comparable to Mata, and we already have Mata.

And we wouldn't be able to give him the platform he has at Everton, our defensive midfield simply isn't as stable as Evertons.

I think Everton had a great transfer summer, smart signings that seem to fit a larger plan.


6.) 19 Oct 2020 11:48:40
Rather break the bank for Son if it were ever possible.


7.) 19 Oct 2020 11:51:04
Its been 5 games.

No one doubted that James 'could' have been a good signing but he also 'could not' have been a good signing. For reference, see sanchez, mata, lukaku, mkhitaryan etc.


8.) 19 Oct 2020 12:49:12
Very much in the mold of bruno mata and dvdb. Nor sure if we need another out that type.
He is not a wide player as such so its a no from me despite how well he has started at Everton.
He is a good player.


9.) 19 Oct 2020 12:56:08
I think he's found his level.


10.) 19 Oct 2020 13:19:33
Shappy, i think you would get a better answer once we have played Everton. There are players who we have been linked with in the past but for some reason didn't join but came good elsewhere, Hazard for instance, Fabregas even Kroos. I bet Bale too would have a great season at Spurs and yet people would justify not getting him.


11.) 19 Oct 2020 13:55:50
Found his level. Boys your having a laugh. That Everton side look a lot better than us at the moment.


12.) 19 Oct 2020 14:16:44
leahy, perhaps because they are managed by Ancelotti and not Solksjaer.


13.) 19 Oct 2020 14:38:13
And perhaps because it’s been 5 games, it made me laugh yesterday when the commentators were saying during the palace game about goal difference and what position it is moving them up to in the table, who cares what the table looks like this early on, it’s madness, everyone is so close together. Let’s give James a season and see how he does, anyone can look good for a few games.


14.) 19 Oct 2020 14:51:01
I don't think he found his level, he is a very good player, intelligent with good first touch and excellent passes. But because of his lack of pace he can't play without protection, Anceloti uses him in a similar role Mata played the game before. On papper he plays right winger but he plays narrow, next to three midfielders. I think he would be another one we must build the team around him to take most of him. He simply isn't for us.


15.) 19 Oct 2020 15:37:53
Not for me Shappy even though he has obvious quality. My view on him is that he would shine in bursts, the lows would be frequent and for long periods and would be more of a luxury player.
It is possible that he will do well with Ancheloti who is maybe the right manager for him but I do not see him as the right player for us at the minute.


16.) 19 Oct 2020 15:39:59
In one Leahy 😂.


17.) 19 Oct 2020 17:58:45
Funny isn't it Leahy. They would probably out play us at the moment.

I would take Calvert Lewin to replace Martial though any day of the week. Especially with Greenwood begging to ruin his career.


18.) 20 Oct 2020 04:10:01
I love the "he's found his level" comments, would that be the best player for the team that is top of the EPL? If so isn't that the level we are aiming for? 😂

While he is far from my first choice, and was a player a couple of months ago I didn't want as I thought he could be another "Sanchez". I think I've seen enough so far to suggest he would have been a solid signing for a few years.


19.) 20 Oct 2020 16:36:12
Hindsight's a wonderful thing. Otherwise this scouting malarkey would be a doddle.

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold ypur breath about Malarkey joining Manchester United.}


 

 

17 Oct 2020 19:03:23
Anyone think we might wear our third kit tonight against Newcastle? 🤨😂.


1.) 17 Oct 2020 19:56:17
May as well Shapps. After all, we've got our 3rd team out 🤣🤣.


 

 

 

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22 Oct 2020 23:41:45
Wazza, it's about balance and shape. I would agree in a back four a left footed CB is less important. However, when you play a back three the LCB will have to move out to cover the LB area of the pitch. Which is why being left footed in that situation is preferable.

While the current fashion for higher pressing means that centre backs need to play passes quicker while maintaining accuracy. If you are right footed playing on the left, your options for a quick pass are limited to those players playing on your left, either LB or LW. Whereas a left footed player has a wider area of the pitch to play passes quickly.

If you're right footed and you are pressed then you will have to turn so your left hand side is shielding the ball. If you do that on the left hand side of the pitch you are turning inward towards your goal and then your passing option is limited to your CB partner or maybe a longer more dangerous pass across your box to your RB. If they are marked then you are screwed.

The advantage of a right footed player on the right and a left footed player on the left. Is that the players can play passes more quickly off their stronger foot. While if they are pressed they will naturally, instinctively turn their body in such a way that they will play away from goal and away from the danger area.

That is why Pep has signed Lapotre and Ake, while Arteta has signed Gabriel, David Luis and Pablo Mari.

Tactical managers looking for the best "ideal" solution. It is why left footed CB's are highly prized.

It's why Bayern Munich paid €80m for Lucas Hernandez. While they also play Alaba at LCB often if Hernandez isn't available.

While it's perfectly possible to play a right footed player on the left, you statically get better results from playing a left footer.


 

 

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22 Oct 2020 09:40:11
I think a back three with quick players either side of Maguire suits him. It allows him to step forward into midfield with the ball with adequate protection either side of him.

While I think Lindelof has better defensive instincts than Maguire, Harry is far more physical and certainly stronger in the air.

While we played excellently against PSG one thing I did note was PSG never tried the aerial route. Which suited us as Shaw and Lindelof are okay at best in the air and Tuanzebe is untested at the highest level.

In the EPL Maguire might be the better option. In Europe Lindelof might be the better option.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 17:12:13
Angel, Mengi looks potentially like a top level talent. However, that jump from academy to professional football is vast, and many highly talented players have fallen by the wayside.

To be honest if looking at our central options when playing with three at the back we have Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw as first choice and I think they work well together. Tuanzebe and Mengi coming through to challenge those in the first 11. What we really need is another left footed (or at least left sided) centre back to challenge Shaw.

When playing three at the back the RCB and the LCB need to be comfortable moving wider into areas more traditionally covered by the full back. Which is why ideally you want a left footed LCB.

There are some very good options out there who could be available. David Alaba, if he can't sort out a new deal with Bayern would excel in the role. While players like Pau Torres, Zagadou, Bastoni, Badiashile and Ndicka could all offer solid options as well, all being left footed.

While Mengi has played on the left of the centre back partnership and at LB on occasion, so while being right footed he could easily enough cover there.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 10:04:59
If Tuanzebe can stay fit then he can become a great option for us. Mengi also looks a super talent. Add that to Maguire and Lindelof (who aren't half as bad as most people seem to think) . Then we have some decent players to work with, if we play three at the back then Shaw looks well suited to the LCB role, maybe look to bring in another left footed CB to complete with him and add some balance to our defensive options.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 08:42:09
I said this over the summer, while I think Bailly is one of our better centre backs, the lad just can't stay fit.


 

 

 

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22 Oct 2020 16:13:05
Chelsea have a great squad, what they are struggling slightly with currently is blending all the new signings with the existing players. Which is a danger when you have a big turn over in playing staff.

Mendy looks a very good keeper, while Kepa is the most expensive keeper in history.

In James and Chilwell they have great fullbacks, while Azpiliqueta and Alonso provide experienced cover.

Midfield options of Kovacic, Jorginho, Kante, Mount and Gilmour are solid options.

With forward options of Abraham, Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Pulisic and Hudson-Odoi are excellent options.

The only area I would say they are weak is at CB. Thiago Silva looks past his best and not suited to the quicker paced EPL at this stage in his career. Rudiger is decent, but injury prone. Zouma and Christensen haven't lived up to their potential sadly, while Tomori looks a talent, but needs a leader alongside him to coach him through games.

Other than CB they look solid all over the pitch.

That said, I still think we have enough to beat them if we get out tactics right and if our players turn up focused and driven.


 

 

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22 Oct 2020 10:15:12
I think this squad has potential. Many of our key players are still many years away from their peak.

Players like Henderson, AWB, Tuanzebe, Shaw, DvdB, McTominay, James, Martial and Rashford. Are all 23/ 24 or younger and at least 2-4 years away from their peak.

While we have some fantastic players in the next age bracket down in Mengi, Laird, Williams, Garner, Levitt, Mejbri, Pellistri, Chong, Traore and of course Greenwood. All of whom are 6-8 years away from their peaks.

If your looking at players in their peak years we have DDG, Lindelof, Maguire, Telles, Fred, Pogba and Fernandes. All of whom are 26-29.

While players like Mata, Matic and Cavani offer experience.

So we have some great young players who are a few years away. What we are maybe missing in one or two more players in their peak years. So it still feel like a team that is going to be great rather than one that is great right now. I think the good thing is that actually how many players we might need to bring in will depend on how many of those players from the youngest age group steps up and become top players.

While the club needs to move on players like Grant, Romero, Jones, Rojo, Bailly, Lingard, Andreas Pereira etc. All of whom are just blocking the youngest group of players.

It's a decent squad on paper, and one with huge potential. It's all about moving those on that aren't required, and getting the most out of the young player, helping them fulfill their potential.

I'm quite positive moving forward, our club has only ever been successful when there has been a large proportion of academy graduates in the first team. So I look at the likes of Henderson, Laird, Williams, Tuanzebe, Mengi, McTominay, Garner, Levitt, Rashford and Greenwood and I see ten players who if they all reach their potential could be key players in our team for the next decade.

While the club has spent a fortune in bringing in new players to our academy over the past couple of summers. Meaning that there is a hot bed of young talent just a few years younger who could match or surpass those youngster.

I think there is a lot to look forward to with this squad, and if managed correctly we could have the seeds already sown for the next dynasty.

{Ed025's Note - you make some good points there ken....i mean shappy.. :)


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 21:36:53
Hatter, for me the best shape is either 3412 or 442 diamond with our squad. Either way the solution is clear. Play two defensive minded midfielders (Fred, McTominay or Matic) against the top teams, with one or two of Pogba, Bruno and DvdB depending on whether it's a 3 or 4 man midfield. Then against the rest play with one defensive midfielder and 2 or 3 offensive midfielders.

My ideal line up atm would be the line up from last night but with DvdB stepping in for one of Fred or McTominay, then depending on form maybe either Greenwood or Cavani stepping in for Martial.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 17:16:09
Fred is a player that splits opinion. The issue is that he is great at certain things, yet he isn't well rounded enough to be a top level box to box player. His passing vision and execution isn't consistent enough and his shooting is woeful. Yet not every player needs to do every job. His pressing, harrying, tackling and turning over of possession is great. While he is very mobile, and quick. As a player who's job it is to disrupt the opposition, win the ball back and lay it off to better players he is excellent. But if your expecting him to be the next Xavi you will be disappointed.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 10:45:44
DLIB, ultimately the difference between 3412 and 4121 is the pushing up of one central defender into midfield, while slightly more defensive reliance on the full backs/ wing backs.

What the can effectively does is move the focus from having an extra body deeper to an extra body in midfield. It’s the best way to shift from a defending without the ball to being more able to get on the ball and therefore defend with the ball by holding possession. While the shift to having the ball higher up the pitch means you are closer to the opposition goal, potentially opening up more goalscoring chances.

The two shapes are very similar and only require the change of one player and the slight adaption to new tactics for a couple of players.

343 or variations of that shape are the most tactically flexible, due to the balanced shape you can effectively and easily change the shape of the team with a single substitution or even just moving a tactically intelligent player into a new position during the game.

For example, we could be set up in the 3412 shape, but be struggling to create as the opposition have blocked up the middle. We have the option of taking off either a CB, or one of the midfielders and bringing on a winger and changing to either 343 or 433, or even 4231. All from one change.

I think for the most part due to our squad not being built for one specific system, due to a number of quick changes in managers who all want different players for different systems. The best way forward is to create a flexible system that can change quickly and adapt to situations in game easily.

This sort of shape system works with most of our players, either playing to their strengths or mitigating their weaknesses. For me, the only two players who stand out as a problem in this system are Pogba and AWB.

Pogba due to his lack of work rate which is needed in the midfield in this system. While AWB isn’t yet consistent as an attacking threat from full back/ wing back.

However, Pogba isn’t likely to be here long term and might have to take a back seat. While AWB used to be a winger at youth level and with the right coaching I’m sure he can become a good offensive outlet from full back.

This shape is flexible, and it will look and feel different depending on the game, the players selected, and the tactics of the game in question. Yet I feel it gives us the best chance to get the most out of most of our players.