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17 Dec 2024 19:48:30
Rashford exit gathering pace now in various media outlets. Sadly, I do think it's time for him to explore new opportunities. PSG feels an obvious fit, as I can't see him moving to another Premier League club.
He just seems to have fallen out of love with the game and the club, and it's time for him to rekindle that joy if can elsewhere.
1.) 17 Dec 2024 20:28:39
Over the moon. Never rated him and his attitude is awful
Won’t be easy to shift him in those ridiculous wages.
2.) 17 Dec 2024 21:12:49
Could definitely see a Sancho-style loan for the rest of the season somewhere or other. Need him to get some form and put himself in the window for a permanent summer move.
3.) 17 Dec 2024 21:22:26
Sad I was there when he scored 2 on EPL debut against Arsenal. I remember him scoring against City in an Irish pub in Fueteventura and leaving Demichelis for dead.
Unfortunately over the last few seasons it’s not worked out for him.
Wish him the best.
4.) 17 Dec 2024 21:58:47
Can see Garnacho leaving also.
5.) 17 Dec 2024 22:10:48
I don’t understand why people think PSG will buy him. They bought Barcola two summers ago for a big fee. It seems like people think that PSG are trying to sign any big name player, even ones they don’t need.
Personally I think that it will be very difficult to sell Rashford. The best I could see happening is a loan where United continue to pay a significant amount of his wages.
6.) 17 Dec 2024 22:24:56
Wont be too sorry for either…talent maybe but mentality is a massive issue for both. We all knew something like this needed to happen and if it takes some so called fans too then so be it. Ragnick said this club needed open heart surgery, looks like now’s the time.
7.) 17 Dec 2024 23:20:31
Depends on the fee United want, the lower that is the more prepared clubs will be to up the wages.
Fact is he isn't delivering what he costs so any fee and the wages cleared is going to leave us better off.
8.) 17 Dec 2024 23:54:05
Utd Rd. I also was there when he scored that brace against Arsenal. A quick trip back from the US. I took my wife who had become an Arsenal supporter. We had very good seats on the half way line. She found the intensity, the close spacing, and the aggressive nature of the men around her quite overbearing. I had also taken her to see us play at the Emirates in 2012 when we won 2-1 with Danny Welbeck scoring the winner. Somehow that ground didn't seem anywhere near as intense. Anyway, the experience put her off being a football supporter. She decided that investing all that emotional energy wasn't worth it. Sometimes I wish I could do the same, but then she doesn't have 60+ years. of it behind her.
We'll be very lucky to get a good deal for him given how much he's paid. He's simply not adapted to the game as it's evolved and it's hard to see him ever having the capacity or the will to do so. The worst thing is I think he knows it which, if so, has to be depressing him. He is after all a United lad through and through.
9.) 18 Dec 2024 04:36:19
I'd take a straight swap for Isak.
10.) 18 Dec 2024 07:16:40
In your dreams Bobbie. I’d take a straight swap for Homer Simpson!
Other than Chelsea/ Arsenal think it most likely to be a Spanish or Italian club loan.
11.) 18 Dec 2024 09:20:53
Sad to see. Local lad came good, exploded into the scene, great pace and a good finisher. Sadly his time has come. Thought he might turn the corner under Amorim, but if you’re heads gone it’s gone.
12.) 18 Dec 2024 11:36:15
Crystal palace his level. Reminds me of zaha, turns up when he likes and does a bit here and there but not consistent.
13.) 18 Dec 2024 11:53:06
Just been listening to Jordan on talksport and while I think he’s a bit of a snide sometimes I couldn’t help but agree with what he said - Rashford has basically come and said he wants to leave and Amorim has said he’s still got a part to play etc etc - a complete opposite of his message dropping him from the team. Make your mind up…
Obviously he holds value so the club or manager can’t say anything too bad but this just all needs to stop and stop being blown out of proportion like everything Utd.
He’s been a good ambassador not only for the club but for himself and helped lots of families which should never be forgotten but his day job - football he just isn’t up to the standard of an elite footballer.
He’s 27? He’s had plenty of time to fulfill potential and instead he’s looking like another Theo Walcott that gets to drag the potential term around his whole career.
If Garnacho feels the same I think he can also go.
While I’m on my rant I’d also like Amorim to get full say on that squad because there’s plenty need to go.
Anthony, Rashford, Casemiro, Dalot, Shaw, lindlof, Maguire, spring straight to mind.
14.) 18 Dec 2024 13:36:31
“ I couldn’t help but agree with what he said - Rashford has basically come and said he wants to leave and Amorim has said he’s still got a part to play etc etc - a complete opposite of his message dropping him from the team. Make your mind up…”
I don’t see how what Ruben said is contradictory.
Rashford and Garnacho were dropped for one game because they didn’t train to the standards expected by the manager.
Rashford then threw his toys out of the pram, by announcing to the world that he’s prepared to leave the club.
Ruben said that he wants to keep Rashford at the club, and that he wants to help him recapture his best form.
Unless you think that the manager should never drop certain players from the squad, regardless of how much effort they put into training, then Ruben has been consistent.
15.) 18 Dec 2024 15:56:35
I think he should drop every player that doesn’t train to standards. It’s gone in too long players getting free passes and he’s top of the list.
16.) 18 Dec 2024 16:33:05
Mental all this stuff about a lad who has played well at times and not at others. Good human being, one man club and G/ A over his career is far better than anything theo bloody Walcott did.
We always want more and more from him when I'm not sure he has more and that's okay. I would love for him to stay but I think he needs to leave and get out this country.
The drivel being written and that has been written over a sustained period of time is crazy IMO.
Best of luck Marcus in whatever you choose to do. But if he gets his head down and scores a few goals, this will be forgotten about.
17.) 19 Dec 2024 16:49:46
He’s a spoilt child.
Why drop an interview about how you want to leave after the camp has some positivity beating Man City? It’s selfish and has made the last week all about him when we were gaining momentum.
18.) 20 Dec 2024 18:58:32
Nice story Shawthing. some parallels with me.
I took my wife, we where stood in the Stretford End Upper all match. She kept asking when we sit down ?
She didn’t come to the Irish bar…
Surprised she came tbf as her previous match was Moyes Fulham….
30 Sep 2024 11:23:43
Hi Ed. I know there will be much chatter about ten Hag etc.
Without fuelling the fire, and recognising you said he should have been replaced in the summer, who would you give the role to if you were charge?
{Ed002's Note - Thomas Tuchel - would be my first choice but I still don't think he is interested.}
1.) 30 Sep 2024 15:43:23
Thanks for answer Ed002.
Heard rumours that Tuchel turned us down in the Summer because he wanted more control over decision making, akin to a more old-fashioned manager- and new management structure at United want more of a Head Coach type manager instead?
If so, could they perhaps go back to him with a compromise proposal to get him on board?
Otherwise, perhaps RVNistelrooy as interim as options seem rather limited?
Thanks as always for any input you can give!
{Ed002's Note - I am aware of a discussion with Jim Ratcliffe and another but I don't know of any details of an offer - but I am aware he rejected it.}
2.) 30 Sep 2024 15:59:34
Thank you for the swift reply Ed002!
Fingers crossed he will reconsider (and please let it not be Southgate - surely his managerial record speaks volumes)
3.) 30 Sep 2024 17:10:43
Hi Ed, would we consider Ruben Anorim?
If i'm not mistaken we had considered him before. I think he would do well.
{Ed002's Note - I don’t think there is any chance now.}
4.) 30 Sep 2024 18:28:54
Thanks Ed. Fingers crossed Tuchel changes his mind!
5.) 06 Oct 2024 14:14:39
Hey Ed002
I like Tuchel too as a human and coach. But he strikes me as one who would want total control over tactical approach.
This seems contrary to all the talk of a “Game Model” from academy to first team.
Would Tuchel be willing to work to someone else’s plan? Or is not as a simple as that, appreciating each game will require a modified approach.
{Ed002's Note - Tuchel, like the very high end coaches, has his vision and that is what he will want to be measured delivering against.}
29 Mar 2024 07:19:31
Hi Ed. Are we showing any interest in Marc Cucurella at Chelsea?
{Ed002's Note - Marc Cucurella (LB) Attracting interest from Atletico and Manchester United still. Real Madrid enquired but they should now be able to secure their first choice. Wants to stay at Chelsea but he will be made available.}
1.) 29 Mar 2024 10:43:44
Thanks Ed. I like him as a player - seems to have not worked out at Chelsea for some reason.
{Ed002's Note - He has been out injured for three months.}
2.) 29 Mar 2024 16:42:00
Chelsea spent big on him and Chilwell though - was always going to be a tough assignment.
3.) 30 Mar 2024 11:35:06
Would be a great addition.
4.) 31 Mar 2024 12:28:11
To be fair, he's the player we should have got last summer on loan instead of Reguilon. Unfortunately we couldn't even afford the loan fee, which just highlights the mess the club has been left in.
5.) 31 Mar 2024 14:01:49
Shappy, I’m fairly certain it was our insistence on a break clause that held the deal up. Then they played him in the cup and made it that he could only play for one more team this season so if we broke the loan in January they wouldn’t be able to loan him again.
6.) 01 Apr 2024 09:39:27
Branders that was my understanding too, but it’s all paper talk.
7.) 01 Apr 2024 12:21:12
Think we should be be aiming higher.
While a fine squad player I’d prefer someone who immediately levels up the team like Theo Hernandez, Udogie, Balde or aestupian.
8.) 02 Apr 2024 11:38:27
I think it's a bit of both to be fair. I'm sure if the loan fee was 1-2m for the season then we'd have seen Cucurella at United this season regardless of break clauses etc.
Utd Road, I think Cucurella would be a really good fit for us currently. He's similar to Shaw in that he can play LB, LCB, invert into midfield or play on the overlap (although he's better when played deeper) . He's not a physical as Shaw, but is slightly better technically and more tactically astute.
I'm a little torn over what to do with the LB slot. Shaw and Malacia's continued injury issues means we have a issue there that needs sorting out. Yet if we sign someone and Shaw and Malacia are both fit then we have an embarrassment of riches in that position while probably not having well balanced first 11, as other positions need a first choice player signing, let alone squad depth.
While the young Harry Amass continues to impress and if he develops a little more physically over the summer he could be ready for a few minutes next season (given his age he could develop physically very quickly and at any time over the next 6-24 months.
Personally I think there is something more a miss with Malacia than is being made public. The constant delaying of his return to injury without any clear information on what his injury has been or why his return keeps getting delayed just seems a little off. Maybe because he's a squad player the media aren't asking the questions about him during the press conferences??♂️
If we buy someone for LB then we should probably look for someone in the 21-24 age bracket who is ready to push or even take Shaws place off of him. With Shaw then becoming the back up allowing Amass to take Shaws place in a couple of seasons time, while looking to challenge the current first choice for his place. Although that does leave us with what to do with Malacia. Maybe keep him around due to Shaw's injury issues. New player as first choice with two injury prone players in Shaw and Malacia as back up.
No point signing a young prospect under 20 years old as we have Amass on the books or even Alvaro Fernandez if we want that profile of player. Signing someone that young would only block the pathway for Amass.
It needs to be someone either top class or on the cusp of becoming top class.
Although signing a LB this summer probably means not signing a RB and keeping AWB for a the final year of his deal to be back up to Dalot.
While RB does need an upgrade (although Dalot has probably been our most consistent player this season), the continued injury issues at LB probably means that it is the left hand side that has become a higher priority oddly.
9.) 02 Apr 2024 21:18:30
Speaking of LB's Rayan Ait Nouri has really had a break out season at Wolves under Gary O'Neil. He'd be the kind of player I'd personally be looking at to bring in at LB. Someone whose star is rising and they look ready for a bigger stage to step up to, but who has a good level of experience and is well suited to playing in the EPL.
18 Dec 2023 07:49:36
Hi Ed,
Do you see the club doing much business in this window given the new structure is yet to be confirmed?
Many thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Some.}
1.) 18 Dec 2023 14:51:09
Hi Ed,
Do you expect their to be more departures than incomings? I can imagine the club being reluctant to sign many on permanent deals given the uncertainty on ETH if and when the SJR deal completes.
{Ed002's Note - January is a difficult time to buy and the future of Murtough is still a little unclear. The summer will be a much more significant time for transfers.}
27 Aug 2023 06:17:39
Hi Ed. Do you know if the club are looking to add a left back in light of Luke Shaw's injury please? If so who are they considering?
{Ed002's Note - They will perhaps look to a loan.}
1.) 27 Aug 2023 12:03:55
The fact the club are looking at a loan seems to suggest that the "extended" period of time they said he will be out for will be months rather than weeks.
2.) 27 Aug 2023 12:39:00
I think that’s pretty clear Shappy.
3.) 27 Aug 2023 13:42:38
1 less weak link to down tools.
4.) 27 Aug 2023 14:38:07
Cucurella loan would be good if Chelsea agree.
5.) 27 Aug 2023 15:24:08
As per my views on the other post, Cucurella would be excellent, Reguilon disastrous!
Now seeing Marcos Alonso linked - he’s be excellent for us - Premier League proven, good aerially and knocks Maguire down to SIXTH choice centre half, too!
6.) 27 Aug 2023 16:48:32
Agree fzzz.
7.) 28 Aug 2023 09:02:21
Alonso is a good player chips in with a goal or two also, which we severely need any goals we can get, we already falling behind in the good department.
8.) 30 Aug 2023 10:36:51
Are we? You’ve not mentioned. We scored 3 on Saturday.
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22 Oct 2025 14:11:02
So thinking ahead to January window, who do you think we'll see from an ins and outs perspective?
I think we may see Zirkzee loaned/ sold. I can't see us allowing Mainoo to leave on loan unless we bring in midfield reinforcements.
1.) 22 Oct 2025 16:42:25
No idea Eric. We need to get lucky. So if we can get a whaton or baleba it will depend on where they are in the league and what they have to pay for.
Outs zirkzee ugarte mainoo are the 3 obvious candidates but much can change between now and then.
We lose mbeumo and amad for afcon so we are light for sure.
Well just have to wait and see what happens.
Much will depend also on if we are competing for a cl or el place.
2.) 22 Oct 2025 17:24:29
I think Conor Gallagher makes sense on a loan with option.
3.) 22 Oct 2025 18:44:59
Mbeumbo and amad are a big loss and so is mazraoui that leave dalot on as the only right wing back option.
4.) 22 Oct 2025 18:52:07
Doubt we see big key signing.
Possibly a Gallagher or someone like that on loan deal.
Possibly a young player for future who is available and we want to get due to circumstance.
5.) 22 Oct 2025 19:04:57
Connor Gallagher is a great shout.
Wharton, Anderson or Baleba would be great, back for one of the remaining in the summer.
6.) 22 Oct 2025 19:51:36
Wow I said Connor Gallagher was a good shout in summer to be told he was rubbish, now he is a great shout.
7.) 22 Oct 2025 20:09:37
Gallagher is one of them players that gets hate no matter what. He does a job well but he isn't exciting, isn't sexy just solid. Imagine he is the type that managers love.
8.) 22 Oct 2025 20:40:36
Red man,
Maybe it was someone different that said that? Loads of people post on here with differing opinions.
9.) 22 Oct 2025 21:00:33
January will be an interesting window. With the WC coming up. There'll be a few players looking for minutes. Gallagher would be an achievable target.
Camavinga would be the dream though for me. Very unrealistic I know. Sam Allardyce and Bolton did some crazy things in the transfer market in a World Cup year. Why not us! ?.
10.) 22 Oct 2025 21:48:25
Tonali.
11.) 22 Oct 2025 22:21:30
I think Zirkzee is a strong possibility for an exit. Not sure much dealings in will happen. Mbuemo going is a blow but Fernandes and Mount are options for that role. I do wonder if the Endrick rumours have some substance because of this? Don’t know much about him or if that’s his position? I do wonder if we’ll see Lacey make some appearances? Certainly training a lot with the first team.
I actually think Ugarte has done ok recently, thought he done well when he came on v Liverpool so I’d be inclined to stick with him.
Agree with Ken though, if we’re in and around top 4, the club may give us an extra push and invest.
12.) 23 Oct 2025 05:03:33
LOL…. We won against Liverpool now all problems are over and we’re now fighting for Europe, total madness, have you even heard yourselves let’s just erase the last year, it’s took us a year to win back to back games and now we beat Scousers and all is well…your deluded.
13.) 23 Oct 2025 08:08:11
GDS
It’s a general point not necessarily aimed at Utd Road. Not much support when I said it, as there wasn’t when I suggested Dembele a few years ago, who is smashing it at PSG. Perhaps it’s just frustration in my old age.
14.) 23 Oct 2025 11:58:03
Ray of sunshine Maze.
15.) 23 Oct 2025 18:17:10
Not taken personally mate, i took it how you meant it.
Tbf we’d have ruined Dembele.
Gallagher, Mount, belong with Henderson, Milner, Fletcher, Park - they’ll be rated more when they left or retired. They’re the water carriers who make the team tick.
Also I don’t buy into all the Urgate criticism.
He’s a limited player being asked to do more than he’s capable of. Bruno leaves him exposed. He’ll come good.
16.) 23 Oct 2025 18:35:40
Gallagher works hard but really. We need someone who is going to make a difference in our midfield. He generally plays a lot of sideways and backwards passes. would fit in with the others in our team who do likewise but we need to progress. Not a good signing for me.
17.) 24 Oct 2025 14:33:53
I’d agree Salford. We’ve Ugarte for that already. We don’t need Gallagher, and I don’t see Wilcox and team wanting him either. He’s not the No6 we need at all.
18.) 25 Oct 2025 09:58:20
Utd Road,
Ugarte looks like he operates best in tight midfield space, very comfortable operating around and through close opposition. However our midfield is wide open, loads of space and that isn’t his strength. If we wanted three in centre mid he is ideal but we leave it open and Bruno isn’t disciplined in there. Doesn’t do Ugarte any favours.
17 Sep 2025 07:51:07
I also don't see a lack of effort. I see players still not in the right places on the pitch, not making the right decisions, and feels like they have too much to remember on the pitch which is dangerous.
For those of who who eve ever played golf and had a lesson, you come out with all these tips from the pro and try to recall them all, and often get worse.
I do see the players heads drop as soon as we concede though - I've said it on here before. They seem in a bad place mentally, and really need help there from an expert to be mentally tougher. This is stuff you can learn! I don't think Amorim playing tough guy and excluding players etc is working, as well as his technical "tactics" which most are clearly struggling with.
Again the big question is - can Amorim change and find the right formula now and bring his changes in over time? I don't think he can sadly. I really want this to work but I'm failing to see how.
1.) 17 Sep 2025 11:19:21
But in fairness that is really only as an amateur. A professional golfer takes the coaches advice and implements it pretty much to the letter.
These are professional players so they should be able to do the same. I stress, should!
OR
The problem is that the players know what they are being told is not going to work with this setup and are just not invested which is an entirely different problem.
2.) 17 Sep 2025 12:22:38
Hence the change the man comment Keefy. You're not invested, do one guys, it has been too long with these underachievers.
3.) 17 Sep 2025 21:21:59
No disagreement from me!
11 Mar 2025 11:43:15
Amidst all the excitement of the stadium etc, wanted to draw attention to Victor Lindelof. Hear me out, but could be the answer to our right centre back challenges.
A player who can play CB, has played RB and defensive midfield. surely on paper he's exacerly what Amorim wants from his RCB position?
1.) 11 Mar 2025 12:21:43
On a technical skill level, I think you're right, but that's not the problem. The problem with Lindelof is that he switches off more often than a Hereditary Peer.
2.) 11 Mar 2025 12:36:59
It was one game that lindelof played well in. Now if this becomes 4 or 5 games, then maybe your right.
Unfortunately he is hit and miss much like Maguire. I'd love to see Yoro, De ligt and Heaven as our back 3.
3.) 11 Mar 2025 13:37:14
Lindelof is ok in the middle. He struggles when pulled out wide. The choice is to keep him or Maguire and we already have Maguire's contract extended so I can't see Lindelof as part of any medium to long term plans. In Yoro, Heaven, De Ligt, Mazraoui and (hopefully) Martinez we have good options. I don't think it'll be a priority position for this summer.
4.) 11 Mar 2025 13:53:53
Evans was relied upon by ETH but seems RA will not renew his deal (no comms but he doesn't use him) .
Recent news about Lindelof wanting to return to Benfica.
When playing 3 CBs at any given time we ideally have 5 fit (subs/ rotation), so to cover injuries I think we would like 6 reliable CBs in the squad:
1. de Ligt
2. Yoro
3. Mazraoui
4. Martinez
5. Maguire (for 1 season)
6. Heaven
As above - I think we can cope with losing Evans and Lindelof. It remains to be seen what happens with Shaw, but he has previously played CB in a 3. If anyone was to be signed, I'd assume a youngster targeted as long term Maguire replacement. Other positions will be prioritised I expect, as you say DonRed.
5.) 11 Mar 2025 14:15:10
Lindelof is good on the ground but for someone quite tall he get's bullied in the air.
6.) 11 Mar 2025 14:30:22
I'd like to see a back 3 of Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven til the end of the season in prep for next season and play Ugarte and Casemiro in front of them.
7.) 11 Mar 2025 14:54:09
Agree supa. Very weak in the air and very very weak on the ball. He is imo the opposite of what RA wants for a rcb. Hence he only uses he when all other options are unavailable.
He is gone in the summer.
We need to replace martinez looks like we won't have the funds for Branthwaite which is extremely disappointing. He would be ideal for lcb or in the centre of 3.
8.) 11 Mar 2025 17:47:35
I don't think Evan's has been available. We have a full team of senior players out with long injuries, it really is ridiculous.
9.) 11 Mar 2025 18:03:38
Like with eth there are a lot of injuries.
They are worse now than y they were under eth.
We simply have imo the unfitted and least.
10.) 11 Mar 2025 18:56:22
Sorry pressed reply too early.
We have least athletic squad in the league. They are so far short of what's required for this league in terms of pace strength and athleticism it's not funny.
No wonder there is injury after injury. Outside of martinez and amad I think most of the others are muscle or fatigue injuries. They are not well conditioned enough for the demands put on them.
No zip in their movement or play. They are just not up to it.
A proper pre season will help No end. Physically and tactically. 3 or 4 signings with hungry young players that have the right ability attitude and physical characteristics will be what they will be looking for. Won't be easy this summer so much needs doing to the squad.
We do have a lot of talented youth players so the depth in the squad will come from there imo.
When you think that there is a distinct possibility that mainoo yoro heaven and obi will all be in our 1st team squad at 18 and 19. With some very promising youngsters in every position coming strong behind them. You can add the likes of kone and the new lwb 17yo from south America to that list.
That's why I think if they can really do a big clear out this summer that some of these young guys will get a squad place regularly.
We know. Heaton Evans lindelof and ericksen and sancho are leaving. Rashford and Anthony will not be in our squad either. You'd hope casimero and shaw won't be either.
Garnacho bayidir onana and rasmus might seek moves.
So if 9 of those 13 move on.
If we sign 5 then opportunities open up for our youth prospects.
I can see the club trying to make a couple of shrewd free deals like david and angel from lille.
But I truly believe that they will cull the squad of all excess this summer or as much as possible.
A striker a rwb a goal keeper and a cm and a lcb I think will be the signings he wants most.
I also think if he could pick a player to be fit and available next season every week next season from his injured player it would be Mount.
For me fill those 5 key positions
Gk x3 snr 2 jnr
Rwb dalot quende
Lwb dorogu new SA kid loan or sell amass
Rcb maz heaven
Cb deligt yoro maguire if required
Lcb Branthwaite martinez
Cm ugarte Luiz collyer angel
Am amad mount Bruno mainoo zirkzee
Cf goykeres david obi
5 signing plus 2 free agents all 13 above out job done?.
11.) 11 Mar 2025 23:06:51
Not sure about Branthwaite given the potential fee. Luiz may do in CM but I suspect we need someone better and that we need an AM that can provide a serious goal contribution.
12.) 11 Mar 2025 23:26:32
Going off Everton's hilarious valuation last season, Branthwaite would cost more than either Gyokeres or Quenda, so approaching £200m for the three. Along with the £80m we still owe for players (two of whom aren't even at the club right now) that's well over quarter of a billion. I'll be a little more conservative with my aspirations. Hopefully the days of overpaying are behind us and with some of the cost-cutting measures taken this year you'd think so.
13.) 12 Mar 2025 15:55:14
How good is Heaven though?!
Yoro will come good.
Need one more, not De Ligt. He is like Carragher, always there for the last ditch challenge. We need someone who reads the game a lot better.
If two of mazraoui, Maguire, Martinez are here for another year, fine.
14.) 12 Mar 2025 23:41:41
I’d go as far as saying de Ligt has been one of our best players this season and should probably be captain.
Weird how we can all view things so differently.
20 Feb 2025 19:20:00
Just finished reading Ian Graham's How to Win the Premier Leaguw which gives a fascinating insight into the word of football recruitment and transfers and had me thinking that our club will have ysed none of these modern cutting edge data analytics in anything we've been doing in performance, training, scouting or recruitment.
Quite a good read even if a little focussed on Liverpool, but clear how they successfully went about their business in buying players and appointing their managers. Also ga e great insight into the successes of Brighton and Brentford.
1.) 21 Feb 2025 01:14:17
The Liverpool sliding doors moments at pivotal times for their transfers is quite fascinating.
Klopp wanted Brandt but got Salah. He wanted Werner and got Firminho. I don't think Alison was first choice. They went to Wolves looking for Adama Traore and came away with Jota. I'm sure there is a few more.
Klopp might well have got a tune out of those alternatives, but considering Salah has been in the top 3/ 5 players of the last 6 or 7 years, Alison is in with a shout as best keeper in the world and Firminho was pivotal to their success who knows.
Which brings me on to our transfer policy. I don't think we've pulled out of a transfer in a long time. Nothing dissuades us. Not the fee (we'll pay whatever) not the wages (we'll pay whatever) .
Some divine intervention was definitely needed with some of our signings over the last decade. We clearly aren't particularly good at identifying talent but had a relentless approach when acquiring it. Almost like Woodward and Co couldn't be seen missing out on a deal.
Players who have potential join the group and slowly become assimilated in a bad way. Standards have dropped significantly over the years and like a house with a faulty foundation, fixing a little piece at a time is just too difficult.
The fact is, the team needs to be absolutely gutted from top to bottom. 3 or 4 signings a year isn't going to cut it.
I don't really have an opinion on Amorim but if we're going in that direction, we need to be all in. We should have mass exits in the summer, get him 6/ 8 players and we can hopefully see a seed of hope growing from the sh! t pile that is that team.
{Ed001's Note - either the book is nonsense or you have misremembered what was said. Firmino was at Liverpool when Klopp arrived. Firmino was signed while Rodgers was in charge.}
2.) 21 Feb 2025 04:58:09
You did get Salah and Allison right, Mumbles. If I recall correctly, we were looking at Brandt and Oblak as first choices for those two positions respectively. Our transfer team back then was great in identifying players we needed and bringing them in. Players such as Robertson, Mane, Fabinho were key to our success during that period. Even our squad players like Shaqiri, Origi and Minamino contributed to our success. The only blemish during that time was Keita, who I understand did not go through the usual process. Sadly, we seem to have moved away from that in recent years though and our transfer dealings have been less than ideal since.
3.) 21 Feb 2025 07:09:13
He mention Keita as the biggest disappointment. But it’s him as involved and all the data ion the world is not an exact science.
Couple of things got me thinking. He said transfers were at best 50/ 50 chance of being successful, which is worrying for us as we need to get every one right over the coming windows. He mentions a few times how much we overpaid for fees.
Secondly, we are the only club in the last 10 years where our average shot at goal distance has actually increased, and he put it largely down to Bruno shooting on sight.
4.) 21 Feb 2025 10:30:38
Surely a how to win the premier league book would be better focussing on a team that’s won it a number of times? The way Leicester and Blackburn won it were different to the way Liverpool won it but they all just have the 1 at the moment. Not read the book but just because you said it’s focussed on Liverpool, seems a little odd when City have won the last 4.
5.) 21 Feb 2025 12:22:31
The author worked at Liverpool for a decade, and Spurs before that.
He does mention City, Leicester etc.
16 Feb 2025 19:13:19
So let me summarise the last 6-8 months. Those in charge decide to undermine ten Hag (who I quite liked) when he won the cup, then decide to keep him, buying £250m of players for him, then sack him two months later, then sack a proven DoF, then appoint an unproven coach who only plays one system that clearly never suited anybody in the squad, then give him no money to back him in his first and crucial transfer window.
Absolute clowns the lot of them at the club, as they're getting what they deserve. Sadly, it's the fans that'll suffer and pay through the nose to remedy their mistakes. Oh and Vera the tea lady etc who costs nothing all to keep in employment who'll lose her job, yet put Casemiro et al 375k a week. also says a lot for the character of all the squad that not one of them has spoken up and said don't worry we'll cover their measly salaries.
It's not our club anymore guys, and the Glazers are squeezing the lemon for one final round before it's worthless. Frankly we are super lucky the bottom 3/ 4 are so bad, as frankly we'd be down. I don't see where the goals are coming from, let alone a win.
1.) 16 Feb 2025 19:31:09
On that Eric does anyone know if the leeches are still taking their dividends? because that alone would keep the redundancies down, not that they’ll care.
2.) 16 Feb 2025 20:10:02
Well said Eric!
09 Oct 2025 08:57:38
Good squad player, experienced head and leader in the dressing room. What’s the problem?
01 Oct 2025 19:38:01
Why would anybody resign and walk away from £12m.
29 Sep 2025 11:26:18
How’s it any different to now Trumours?
28 Sep 2025 23:33:54
I’d rather give it back to OGS for a go over Southgate.
09 Sep 2025 22:56:45
I think every single transfer decision we’ve made since Fergie left and this new team have come in has been baffling. Bruno is our only sensible transfer during this period of time.
25 Oct 2025 14:24:51
1-1 today. Which actually signifies progress for us.
25 Oct 2025 04:52:23
I’d take that all day. Please ?.
25 Oct 2025 04:52:00
Anybody who doubts Bruno’s commitment to our cause is a fool. he's been our best player since day one of signing and remains so now.
(Although I think Cunha and Mbeumo will be challenging for my favourite player tag)
24 Oct 2025 14:33:53
I’d agree Salford. We’ve Ugarte for that already. We don’t need Gallagher, and I don’t see Wilcox and team wanting him either. He’s not the No6 we need at all.
24 Oct 2025 14:31:23
Actually they did. It was either a Bet365 or PaddPowrt new customer bet. Can’t recall which i saw, but as I am already a “customer” of both I couldn’t do it.