18 Aug 2014 19:43:04
Ok, I have wrapped myself up in bubble wrap in anticipation of the beating this post will earn me.

But does anybody else think that if David Moyes had not been sacked that we would of potentially had a better squad by now? If the media are to believe he had done a lot of work in identifying the players we needed and lining players up. That is not to say Ed the plank Woodward would have managed to sign them. And in all likelihood the football would have been poor. But a midfield of Kronos, Vidal, carvalho sounds better than we currently have. A defence of garay, Miranda, shaw and raffles when fit sounds more robust than we currently have. He didn't rate nani or Anderson.

Van gala so far has not inspired me with confidence. I worry he has underestimated the premiership.

1.) 18 Aug 2014
Well if we had Kronos, the personification of time and father of Zeus, pulling the strings in the middle of the park, I don't think any team could stop us.

But even that isn't as daft as your actual hypothetical: if Moyes stayed and was able to spend upwards of £200m, and every player we wanted decided to sign for us, would we be in a better position? Of course we would, but it's not as if any of the players we actually tried to sign turned us down because they only really wanted to play under David bloody Moyes.

2.) 18 Aug 2014
No because who ever we go after they are reluctant to pay what they need to get the player. That's the owners not the manager not even woodenhead.

3.) 18 Aug 2014
I agree about the signings. Herrera and shaw were definitely signings that would have happened under Moyes' - along with William Carvalho and a CB or two, IMO.

4.) 18 Aug 2014
Watching Chelsea - I genuinely don't think one of our players would get in their starting 11. Makes me feel sick.

Moyes made his mistakes, but the problems are 10X bigger than Moyes. Had Moyes been in charge we would undoubtedly have better players now, unfortunately I don't think we would be better long term and the football wouldn't be much better to watch.

Hopefully LVG's plan will work for us, but I don't like how he changes his tune like the wind and his decision making is very questionable to me, although I am just a mere mortal and LVG is already Godlike to some.

5.) 18 Aug 2014
It's a thought provoking post, listening to what he said about our targets last summer it might have been interesting to have seen this window.
On the other hand the players that we already have seemed to have zero confidence or respect for the bloke so who knows.

I think LVG will be a great manager as long as he gets his targets in otherwise I really don't see him sticking around that long.

6.) 18 Aug 2014
I was a lot more confident when LvG was announced than when Moyes was announced.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to identify Bale, Ronaldo and Kroos as "targets". Every friggin club would be delighted to have them.


However Ed Woodward's incompetence should not affect our judgement of both Moyes and LvG. He has been incompetent during the reign of both the managers.


We call Fellaini a waste. That was a move sanctioned by Moyes, might not be his first choice but he still Fellaini would suit us.


LvG would've never signed Fellaini because his vision of the kind of football we should play is completely different and its something the fans can relate to.

7.) 18 Aug 2014
Huggy, I think you are spot on that at this precise moment we would have a better squad by now. Herera was his buy and Shaw was started under his management. I do believe we would have gone for Carvallho and it all be done by now.
However, does that mean we would be in a better position going forward. that I am not to sure of.
I liked Moyes, wanted him to succeed but I just think he was the wrong man for the job.
Van Gaal will be a slow starter as he was most places he has managed, I think someone even posted a while back (may have been Shappy?) that we should expect it to take a while as it takes a long time (Van Gaal is talking 10 weeks) to fully understand his philosophy. Bit by bit he will take us to places Moyes would never have taken us
Keep the faith

8.) 18 Aug 2014
Good post - and I agree with you entirely.

I don't think Moyes had the personality or winning mentality to be manager of Manchester United - but I do think he had a plan for the squad.

In the long run I think we're better off without him - but certainly at the moment it seems as though we're a little worse off from a transfer point of view.

9.) 18 Aug 2014
18 Aug 2014 21:00:53
Last year moyes thought he was getting bale ronaldo and cesc but only signed fellaini,, this year he thinks he would have got vidal miranda carvalho,, but he would have signed jagielka and joseph yobo and tim cahill on loan

10.) 18 Aug 2014
Possibly better names, but still as disappointing on the pitch. As much as I like Moyes as a person, it was depressing viewing. The pre season was much much better, and I hope people don't make too much out of the one result against Swansea.

It will probably take a few windows for LVG to get his vision in place, in the same way Moyes was lining up these bigger names for his vision. As Fergie said, our job is to stand by the new manager, and I trust him to deliver given time. I would even prefer to see no new players come in this window than any panic buys, and get us the right player come January or even next Summer.

11.) 18 Aug 2014
I think our transfer business would have been done a lot more and earlier. He got a lot of stick for doing things that the new manager is also doing. Whoever followed SAF was doomed to fail given our transfer failings last summer.

12.) 19 Aug 2014
18 Aug 2014 23:09:29
Danny, like the idea of Kronos in middle of the parK!lol, however, feel we may still be short at CB, add to that the fact that Kronos has had his injury problems and I still think we should be looking at an audacious bid for Apollo to help Evans out and maybe a move for Poseidon to help with the wave of attacks from out wide, would def be looking at top 4 finish with that lot!(assuming we get Vidal also!lol)

13.) 19 Aug 2014
19 Aug 2014 08:36:19
I agree with you, we wouldn't have signed Kroos.

It's a hard one to call because tactically we would have been a lot worse off however Moyes had a season to clear out a lot of players and bring in his targets.

In playing personnel I have no doubt that we would have been 100% stronger, tactically I'm not sure but I'll always stand by the fact that Moyes is a fantastic manager but he just wasn't right for us.