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20 Mar 2018 00:19:04
Hi Eds - Just wondering if Utd are still interested in Carlos Soler and if you can shed any light on a potential deal?

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - There is interest but Valencia are not keen to sell.}


1.) 20 Mar 2018 08:01:42
Ed002, awhile back there was reports United was interested in another Valencia player, Jose Gaya. Is there any interest there is was it just click bait?

{Ed002's Note - JM was interested when he was at Chelsea, but I gues MU might add him to the list of LBs they are interested in.}


2.) 20 Mar 2018 17:55:07
Ed002, if you don't mind who is on that list of LB's and will Shaw move on in the summer? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed - if Mourinho were to leave maybe Shaw will stay but right now he wants him gone and would like one of the following:
Danny Rose (LB)
Aaron Martin (LB)
Alex Sandro (LB) - I would strike him from the list now but don't be surprised if he reappears - it all depends on a player at another club
Philipp Max (LB)}


3.) 20 Mar 2018 17:56:26
Cheers Ed.


4.) 20 Mar 2018 19:16:36
Cheers Ed.


5.) 20 Mar 2018 19:31:12
I suspect that Philipp Max will end up at Bayern Munich if Alaba leaves. Ironically he looks like a really good left back. Just the kind I would like to see brought in. Young, talented and hungry with loads of potential.


6.) 21 Mar 2018 04:31:26
Ed2 are united looking at sessengon.

{Ed002's Note - there was interest when JM was at another side.}


7.) 21 Mar 2018 12:06:37
Huggy, allegedly Shaw is quite hungry, too :)


 

 

21 Feb 2018 23:45:43
I'm reading a lot of people justifying that pathetic performance. SAF played like this in Europe, Sevilla are tough at home, no easy games at this stage of the competition.

The thing is we play like this whenever we come up against a half decent team. Incidentally Moyes took us away in Europe and we played some great stuff, remember the guy that had no European experience?

Sevilla are not up to much, but we were lucky to escape with a draw tonight however you want to dress it up. They will be very dangerous at OT, far more dangerous than we were tonight.

Maybe it was like this sometimes under SAF, but only "SOMETIMES" with Jose it's every time. If we go out to Sevilla, it's because we didn't play to win tonight.

It would be nice to not read BS excuses to justify this rubbish we are subjected to almost every week. Maybe my drum is getting worn out, but the excuse bank is surely out of coin by now. It's just not good enough, we put up with a rubbish Europa League campaign to qualify for this by the skin of our teeth and then put in these types of performances! WTFP?

The Beast

1.) 21 Feb 2018 23:57:48
How many games did Moyes do us proud in Europe? Was it just the Leverkusen game or . No one is saying Jose is producing exceptional football bit my god the hyperbole in here is ridiculous.


2.) 21 Feb 2018 23:59:13
Goos post Beast and i reckon we houdlve gone for the kill today as i hope but Jose played it safe which is quite sad considering how poor Sevilla were today.

The players look scared to try something exciting ncase it doesn't work and jose gets angry.

They are all under strict rules by the looks of it.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 00:20:46
Made attacking substitutions the team just didn't click going forward.


4.) 22 Feb 2018 01:32:09
Weren't they like for like subs (Rashford/ Martial for Sanchez/ Mata)? It's not clicking because we attack with 3 men maximum, often just 2 - we have forgotten how to attack as a team as it seems our main focus is on keeping teams out, not making them keep us out.

It's anti-Utd and it isn't hyperbole if it happens virtually every time we play a team that isn't prepared to curl up and die.


5.) 22 Feb 2018 10:10:12
Couldn’t agree more beast. Went away yet again not to get beaten rather than trying to take the game to them. Nobody here can tell me man for man Sevilla are a better side than us, so why not attack them, why be happy with a bore draw? Anyone who things a nil nil is a good away score line is mistaken. A score draw not too bad, but a nil nil means we now have to win the return leg. Score draw and we’re out. Pathetic performance once again last night, nothing is inproving.


6.) 22 Feb 2018 11:44:57
Rubbish europa league campaign? You mean the one we won? Oh no we won a trophy but we didn't win it in this specific way that makes me happy. Are you aware of how spoilt you sound. You know this is why fans of other clubs hate us - a huge amount of us have got too used to success. We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase. Yes a lot of money has been spent but the team needed and needs a lot of work. Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club.


7.) 22 Feb 2018 12:56:33
Beast, you called it absolutely right. If De Gea hadn't made unbelievable saves, we will be looking at a 2 or 3 nil scoreline. I hate the passionless, clueless displays. I hate the lack of cohesion in the team. This result is not a good result, one goal for Seville and we have to score two. Even if we score first, we will still be extremely nervous.
I would say it is advantage Seville.
But the most ridiculous post i'd the one from 12daysofhemida. "A huge amount of us have got used to success", "We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase", "Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club". These are exactly the type of comments that drive me potty. How could you get too used to success? So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? Utter tripe. Then he mentions we are still rebuilding, we have been rebuilding for five years. A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. All the top clubs are in a constant state of rebuilding. Harking back to the old times? History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history.
If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values.


8.) 22 Feb 2018 15:03:38
Attack x3 you'd make a fine spin doctor.

"So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? "

The few years of rubbish performances HAPPENED under Moyes and LVG. Alongside that were rubbish results. No one was happy, myself included. Now Jose has improved RESULTS a hell of a lot. The performances (last night included) are still often poor. You cannot expect results and performances to be improved when the squad is substandard for a title tilt. Jose is improving us.

"we have been rebuilding for five years. "

Yes, that's just how bad we got.

"A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. "

I agree, but that is exactly what the club allowed to happen. Expecting five years of stagnation to be corrected in two years is unrealistic.

"History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. "

Once again we agree. history has shown us that sticking by a manager when we fans are calling for his head can be beneficial. Can you imagine what would have happened if the fans had been listened to with Fergie? Also whilst we're talking about history, here's one from Fergie, "Attack wins you games, defence wins you leagues. " I think that is what Mourinho is trying to do.

"So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history. "

Er. no. Just no. I can't even think of a witty, relevant or scathing retort to that. Sorry.

"If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values. "

Let me see if I can do your putting words in other people's mouth shtick. so if we don't play well and win you we should all stop supporting Utd? Utter tripe, piddle and tomfoolery.

We weren't built on attacking entertaining football it's a philosophy we have played more often than not since the days of Busby. A style of play that I love and miss, but since Ferguson left that philosophy has been left behind, through poor appointments, mismanagement and NOW necessity. Our defence isn't up to task and so we need to play more defensively.

Whilst having a nosy around the internet, I found this description of Newton Heath in their first season. "Tough, diligent men who formed a powerful side. " Sounds a lot like a Mourinho side. Maybe we were built on stoic defending first, entertaining football second (like all good teams) .


9.) 22 Feb 2018 18:22:17
Great post 12 days.
Beast the performances are poor but its the players not the manager.
How many top class players in our squad?
Not even top class on the european stage top class in epl. Jose performing minor miricle to keep them competitive imo.


10.) 22 Feb 2018 20:34:16
Great posts 12 days. As good as I've ever seen on here to be honest. Great way of debating.


11.) 22 Feb 2018 22:10:35
Oh come on now, it's ridiculous. People are still plugging their same view week in week out.

The fact is, there are some very good and some not so good players in the squad. It's the same for the rest of the top 6 or so teams. It's the manager's job to get the best out of them.

If your idea of getting the best of them is by holding the better players back to set up defensively and grind out results, then we'll agree that Mourinho is doing well. If your idea of an attacking, exciting and progressive style of football is the way forward, then he's not the right man.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 19:14:26
Hopefully this Costa incident is the trigger for the much needed Chelsea collapse. Win on Sunday and everyone will be scared that we are coming for them.

The Beast

{Ed025's Note - my fear beast is that they may make a move for lukaku now, he would jump at the chance imo mate..


1.) 13 Jan 2017 20:52:24
We, I really don't rate Lukaku, I know he can sometimes bully CBs and score dramatic goals but generally he looks like a fat lump blundering around. Just my view of course.

{Ed025's Note - thats very nasty and short sighted of you AJH...but very true.. :)


2.) 13 Jan 2017 22:07:38
He's like that heavily made up blonde on a night out who looks very tasty until you get her into the light, beer googles at their most seductive.


3.) 13 Jan 2017 22:10:18
😂😂😂


4.) 14 Jan 2017 03:46:48
If costa is sold or even just has a falling out with conte, we really need to beat liverpool, as i was hoping and i think most utd fans will agree, if we aren't able to win the league it is better if chelsea do it rather than one of city or liverpool.


5.) 14 Jan 2017 11:16:54
Lukaku is perfect for Chelsea's system but he's no Diego Costa. I can't see them letting him go this January though although a summer deal makes sense.


6.) 14 Jan 2017 12:13:23
I know Costa is expensive but £80 million for a coffee is just ridiculous.


7.) 14 Jan 2017 14:26:04
I'm not sure about timing but I read that the Chinese are going to be clamping down big time on the money being spent by their clubs, as a means of capital controls (just doing it with Bitcoin now) . So maybe there is a major timing factor involved, possibly a one time opportunity for the start of their new season.

Possibly why the amounts in question seem so desperate and why Costa is trying to force a move now. Just speculating of course.


8.) 14 Jan 2017 19:56:59
Costa isn't trying to force his way out.


9.) 15 Jan 2017 01:30:24
i hope costa stays where he is (and stops scoring) because if he leaves they might bid for moussa dembele of celtic.


10.) 15 Jan 2017 13:36:29
hmm Jackson, who knows what to believe. Quite a coincidence we were only talking of something like this the other day. That said you still smashed Leicester and have a £30m striker rotting on the bench, so still need a few more spanners in the works to give us a sniff.


11.) 16 Jan 2017 19:38:40
Hope he stays. He's saved my dream team this season.


 

 

01 Jul 2016 17:29:56
I just read that Neymar signs a 5 year deal, but his buyout clause rises the further he gets into his contract, this seems odd to me is it odd?

It's almost as if they are telling clubs to come and get him now if they are interested.

Does anybody know what his buyout was prior to the new contract? It's now £167m for the first year, rising to 186m 2nd year and then £209 for the third), on the Beeb.

The Beast

1.) 01 Jul 2016 18:07:30
Not sure but this deal is pretty sensible from barca, with teams like palace throwing £30m at Marseille for that Belgian lad who knows how much players will be going for in 5 years, it's gone even more ridiculous this year.


2.) 01 Jul 2016 18:08:46
Beast I don't know enough about buy out clauses but it makes great sense for the owners as under normal circumstances the players value decreases as his contact runs down. It also means that they will be in no rush to Renew and give him another rise in order to uphold his value.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 19:34:13
Great points guys, hadn't even considered that in my haste.


 

 

10 Jul 2015 16:38:30
Hi Ed's - I am a regular contributor to the site as you may know. Several people ask about a fantasy football league each year and I have been part of one for the past 4/5 years, I can vouch for the credibility of it. I didn't want to post on the website without your permission first, this is what I want to post, do you mind?

"I am part of a dream team league, ran by a chap called Andy. I have done this for the past 4+years and it works a treat. You pay £50 upfront and each month there is a prize for manager of the month, the remaining money goes into a pot for the top 3 managers of the year - all registration fees are redistributed to winning managers. I have personally won a few managers of the month and have been paid appropriately. This is just a group of guys coming together and nothing formal/company orchestrated, so if you want to join the league the code is 90970-25762 (it is the Fantasy Premier League). Andy will provide you with his acct details if you join and over recent seasons we have had over 50 people in the league – it was primarily a group of friends but I have asked him if he would mind me opening it up to my “banter buddies” and he has no problem so long as it causes him no issues"

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - Sure, no problem.}


1.) 10 Jul 2015 17:24:08
Super Beast, Might join you on that .


2.) 10 Jul 2015 19:35:39
Now I'm confused yesterday someone was going to setup a FF competition for the lads all here at no cost, I think that £50 is a tad steep especially when in euros it's 70 or more for your one Beast.

Now I'm not a tight git but I try play the FF gig and more times than not forget to change players etc, as I get caught up in stuff at home or within family homes doing repairs etc so miss a lot of the tactical changes lol!!

If we were to set up a MUFC page FF competition and at a cost of €20/25 I would enter it no problem


3.) 10 Jul 2015 20:02:09
Pyramid Scheme!


4.) 10 Jul 2015 23:10:25
We had one for free last season, not sure who set it up but we had over 70 people in it from this website.

The one I am talking about has cash aspects attached so obviously won't be for everyone. I throw in £50 with this guys league because if you win a manager of the month its normally £80-£100, then £1k or so to overall winner.

Horses for courses, I just put it out there as some people were asking and I have always been paid on time.


 

 

 

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05 Jun 2018 13:38:24
I assume most won't like this - but signing David Luiz would add massive benefits. I would have signed Vardy last summer, and I expect this suggestion to be equally mocked, but he is very comfortable in possession, creates a lot from the back, knows the league and will mean we can stop having all 3 CM's dropping into the QB position and focus on more taxing parts of the game.

I'd still go for Vardy as well and move on Rashford which would probably fund both deals. Both experienced as Jose likes and would add some passion.

The Beast

1.) 05 Jun 2018 13:51:29
I'm 100% with you on that beast be a very good signing for us.

I'd like vardy too.


2.) 05 Jun 2018 14:13:22
Agree on Vardy beast. Think he would be a great addition.


3.) 05 Jun 2018 14:14:07
I would take David Luiz over Blind / Rojo/ Darmian/ any day of the week. i'd rather have him on the payroll than Fellani.

H had a good season though before he fell out with Conte, knows the league and seems to be a leader with a winning mentality.

{Ed002's Note - He is still injured and has been most of the season.}


4.) 05 Jun 2018 14:16:40
I read somewhere Bayern are open to selling Boateng. He's a CB I think we should go after if possible.

Luiz wouldn't be that ridiculous of a statement. My only concern is he does go walkabouts at times and I think he is better suited in a back 3 rather than as a Central Defensive partnership and can't see us going to 3 at the back. Although Jose did experiment with it so who knows.


5.) 05 Jun 2018 14:55:00
Beast - 10000000% with u on both luiz and vardy! couldn't agree more.


6.) 05 Jun 2018 15:04:49
Spot on Beast, I have always been a fan of Vardy and think that he is massively under rated by most. My only concern would be that teams play so deep against us he wouldn't be able to get in behind the lines as much as he does with Leicester.


7.) 05 Jun 2018 14:47:36
Good call Beast. Would take both those players and would be more than happy to get those funds out of Rashford sale :D.


8.) 05 Jun 2018 14:48:48
Beast, we don't need any more ponderous big lumps slowing down our play. We already have Smalling, Matic, Pogba, Mctominay, Fellaini, Valencia, Martial who think and move like oil tankers. What we need are some players with speed of thought and action. Maybe Vardy fits that bill but we already have Lukaku whose strength is also running in behind and finishing.


9.) 05 Jun 2018 15:11:41
Didn't Luiz have a big fallout with Jose 😆😆.


10.) 05 Jun 2018 16:13:46
Luiz has awful positioning and concentration.
People didn't like us signing a 29 year old Sanchez and had the horrors when linked with Arnautovic and Mandzukic but want Vardy?


11.) 05 Jun 2018 18:45:56
Mmm double standards when suits mort by the by usual suspects mort.


12.) 05 Jun 2018 18:55:39
Good to have you back ken 😂.


13.) 05 Jun 2018 19:16:47
Park some posters will give out to me not wanting fellaini and say he is a a jose player and i should support that fact but the same poster gave out about the jose player ibra for 18 months. Sounds like double standards to me.


14.) 05 Jun 2018 19:29:00
Agree mate think we share the same view on the way things are at the moment. Personally I’m looking forward to next season with some exciting players coming in. Think we will surprise a few. And if we don’t, hold my hands up and admit I’m wrong. And we move on.


15.) 05 Jun 2018 21:35:50
Can't believe anyone would swap a 29 yr old who basically relies on his pace over Rashford who is so good at such a young age and who will only get better what happened to the Utd ethos of bringing through our own.


16.) 06 Jun 2018 01:18:00
If you are not a consistent superhero it seems you are classed as deadwood and thrown away for a new (old) shiny thing.

There would have been no class of 92 if it was down to everyone on here.


 

 

26 May 2018 12:06:25
I read this earlier which was pretty crazy (especially if you are the Pope) .

1981 - Liverpool won CL, British Prince Marries, Pope dies

2005 - ditto

2018 - Harry just got married - oh dear!

The Beast

1.) 26 May 2018 12:08:46
Just fact checked - 1981 Pope was almost killed didn't die. fake news from Beast sorry.


2.) 26 May 2018 12:28:20
There is another one

58-real win
68-utd win
78-liverpool win
98 -real win
08 - utd win
18 -"NNNNOOOOOO"


3.) 26 May 2018 12:40:13
Last time united lost a cup final and was a Royal wedding Liverpool won it, omen enough for me.


4.) 26 May 2018 13:10:40
I've put a whole fiver from my son's uni fund on 4-2 to Madrid. He'll probably not be needing it anyway 😁.


5.) 26 May 2018 13:32:13
Every utd fan should be putting money on the scorers as I’m a terrible gambler so it’s a win win. I won’t be watching can’t bear it.


6.) 26 May 2018 14:19:35
I've 2 words, please Ronaldo.


7.) 26 May 2018 14:20:21
In real's favour scousers haven't played for two weeks and it's not at Anfield. That team is a very dangerous prospect at anfield, not quite as irresistible away.

Liverpool will look to blast them early, If real keep that high press and the three attackers at bay for the first 30 then they'll take control as the team with a far superior midfield.

Reckon Bale could be the man tonight, plenty to prove after another injury ravaged season and against a British team.
Also looking for another midfield masterclass from one of my favourite players, luka modric.


8.) 26 May 2018 15:14:49
Real are the masters of gamesmanship and footballs dark arts. They can get the opposition frustrated, annoyed and riled up. That's when they can hit you with some footballing brilliance. It takes big game experience to deal with that. Liverpool are lacking in that department.
If Liverpool can deal with the gamesmanship and play acting, they can win. Unfortunately.


9.) 26 May 2018 22:19:14
yeah beast get it right mate lol, you nearly had your 3 good catholic pals me, leahy, and ken in tears there with that stat lol.


 

 

20 May 2018 08:22:50
Many fans are slagging on Jones, he of course made a bad decision and was very reckless.

However - almost everyone is critical of Herrera spending the first half man marking Hazard, everyone think about that for a minute!

Where was Herrera when Jones was in splendid isolation?

There was a hell of a lot wrong yesterday, one bad mistake shouldn't dictate the result in a game like that, there was plenty of time to correct matters. We created next to nothing all game, first half was as bad as the previous games, so we were not prepared for the cup final, we weren't taking it easy in those games to save ourselves for the cup final at all. That was a typical Utd performance - so there was no grand plan behind the Brighton, West Ham, Arsenal, West Brom games - that was what we have been getting as its the best the manager can have the players playing at the minute.

2nd half we upped it a bit and played with a little more attacking intent, but we were 1-0 down against a Chelsea offering nothing going forward - impossible not to look more attacking in those circumstances.

I have been very critical of Pogba but I thought he was our standout player yesterday. Off the ball he was always telling our players to pass it forward, he was often free for the forward pass, but Matic, Herrera, Young and Valencia would cut back and play the ball back to the CB's rather than looking for him. I watched him off the ball slamming into many of our players including Sanchez for being negative. He wanted to take the game by the scruff of the neck, he tried to play positive football - but the rest of the lads seem indoctrinated into playing the pass you see and keep it safe. Pogba is a showboater with little end product, but yesterday he showed me he had the right idea and I hope this positive attitude and drive continues.

Many of us knew the performance to expect and it came to fruition. We were the better team, but had we scored first I would have expected the exact reverse to happen that 2nd half, with us clinging on and Chelsea offering a tiny bit more going forward.

Shame for Jones as he will be picked apart, but on the whole he and Smalling kept an in form Giroud very quiet, Hazard whilst looking lively was ineffective aside from the goal and we coped well with the woeful attacking intent of Chelsea.

Kante was the best player on the pitch yet again - surely worth going for with them not in the CL. A performance that summed up our season in 90 minutes. Roll on 15 months time.

The Beast

1.) 20 May 2018 08:52:55
Good post beast. I agree on pogba thought he was the leader yesterday on the pitch. Have to disagree on matic thought he was our best player yesterday and the rest of the team was very poor. Jose got team selection and tactics so wrong yesterday. Probably should have gone with 3 at the back and played to up top because rashford has been struggling whilst up top alone. Him and martial would have caused far more problems for Chelsea. Kante was everywhere yesterday as always and he is one hell of a player.


2.) 20 May 2018 09:00:02
Beast, you say we weren't prepared for the game and that we played exactly the same as we have all season.

I have a different take on it, we were prepared and we played exactly how Jose wanted us to play.

Jose has had two years with these players, training them to play the way he wants every day. He has bought in 8 players spending over 250m while selling many of the players he doesn't rate as good enough.

The reason we lost yesterday was because the way Jose wants to play. He wants to shut teams down, limit chances and nick a goal. He uses players who are physically superior to his opponent and hopes to out fight them with pace and power. While stifling the life out of the game.

That is how we try to play. In effect Jose's style of play is if not identical at least very similar to that of Pulis, Allardyce and Warnock. He is just better at getting results.

We don't play football, we play anti-football. 6 of his 8 signings have been over 6'2. Out of the two who weren't one of them (Mkhitaryan) has been sold already. People talk about Jose clearing the deck of players who are not good enough bought by previous managers, well he has had to do it for one he himself has signed. And he sold Mkhitaryan before the likes of Darmian, Blind, Rojo and Fellaini (who Jose actually really rates) .

Think about that for a second, Jose rates Fellaini. Think of other managers who rate Fellaini and they style of football they want to play and you soon realise that we ARE playing the style Jose wants. There is no it will get better next season when Jose signs another 4 players. The only thing that will change is we will get better at playing this anti-football style that Jose plays because he wants to play that way.

This isn't the Manchester United I grew up with and fell in love with. This is a rich man's Stoke.


3.) 20 May 2018 09:31:20
Good post that beast .
Shappy it's also a good point, people can't accept the fact that some of players they don't rate Jose does .

But that hurts the Jose can do no wrong argument .
By the way Jose said he was very happy with the game yesterday.


4.) 20 May 2018 14:20:03
Shappy - no mate wrong end of the stick. When we were playing dross in games of late 'defenders' of Jose were saying it was because they were preparing for the final - but it wasn't that they were preparing it was that is how they play (that is the point I was making)! I was basically calling out the people trying to explain away the bad games as it was leading to an expected better overall performance in the final, I knew this was BS and was saying as much ad-nauseum on this website for weeks.

Those people will likely be saying yesterday wasn't good enough, but were content with the recent performances, in short they were wrong!

I know this is how Jose plays, I've been calling it for a lot longer than almost everybody on here, asking for his head after around 10 games as I realised we had hired the Jose of recent Chelsea failure - the broken man!

I appreciate you have come on the Anti-Jose bus of late, but don't think you are the guy driving it mate, welcome on board and I'm glad you are seeing what I do and more and more people are jumping on board.

The man is not right for the club, neither was LVG and that was easy to tell after a few games. I'm not up for constantly changing managers, but if they are the wrong hire and it's easy to tell, then things need to change or we just keep plodding into the wilderness. Our fans want to be loyal and back people represented with the club, this is taken advantage of - sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.

We were a lucky 2nd this season, that has papered over a lot of cracks and why we renewed his contract in the winter coming out of some truly horrific performances just adds to my frustration! If we stick with him this summer then it will be more of the same, allowing our competitors to get even stronger before we re-commence another stage of 'transition' I hate the wasted time.


5.) 20 May 2018 18:27:50
Beast, I was against Jose from the start. I never wanted him and always thought he was the wrong choice.

However, I was prepared to give him a chance. Support him because supporting the club is in my nature.

I've just can't do it anymore, Jose and his style of play has worn my good natured support down.

I don't care who is driving the bus. I just can't stand where he's taking our club anymore.


 

 

05 May 2018 09:18:00
"I couldn't persuade my players that second place was very important to us. I know we can do it, we only have two matches to get the four points we need. They beat us in the attitude. " Jose

It's why he needs to go. Cup Final starting place, huge wages, future at club, prove a point to manager/ fans, impress fans, respect the club, DO YOUR JOB! - those are just some of the many, many reasons why players should be doing more and if a manager can't get that message across he isn't fit for purpose.

One off blips I can tolerate, but this type of performance is exactly the same as we see almost every week with Lukaku plsying - not too sure which other player missing would have improved us too much being honest, Sanchez has not added anything, Valencia is steady but nothing special. Hardly second string team as being dressed up, and every players that played would get into the Brighton team, same as the West Brom team a few weeks ago and probably Sevilla a few weeks before that! Woefully boring and Brighton just took their chance, we created next to nothing yet again as it's negative all the way.

Had Fellaini not nicked a goal against Arsenal then we would have drawn agains their real second string, with yet another turgid performance from our superstars. I just hope PSG or the Portugal job become available this summer for him because it will be the same next year, horrible spectacle. It's alright bitching after every game Jose but you are the person paid to manage these players, the buck rests with you!

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1.) 05 May 2018 10:03:37
It says a lot about the players as they can’t motivate themselves for a cup final, they should want to play for the chance to win that trophy regardless of who is in charge.


2.) 05 May 2018 10:31:28
Beast

In terms of points gained and matches won it's been a decent season, in most years we'd be in with a shot at the title. However there is something rotten at the Club. Our best players aren't performing, Bailly has now been dropped for no apparent reason and he can't seem to motivate the players.

I think he's doing a decent job in terms of bringing some stability to the Club, returning us to the Champions League and winning some silverware, having said all that I don't think the performances have improved and we have a style of play only a mother could love.

We don't feel like a team in 2nd place, or on the up, we have no recognisable style of play or identity and I'm beginning to think this won't change.

In my opinion City will dominate whilst Pep remains in charge and I'm not entirely convinced who could do a better job.

I think in some respects the board can be satisfied with his tenure. Two trophies in the cabinet, a another final to look forward to and Champions League qualification two years running. This must at least satisfy their minimum requirement. Revenue streams remain profitable and would they risk all that because they don't like our style of play. I doubt they even care about that to be honest.

Since Fergi retired the team has lacked courage and bravery, its all been too safe and lacking any kind of intensity or urgency. Most players appear paralysed by fear and riddled with doubt. There is no consistency or belief, no vision for the future, our ideology evaporated into thin air. My biggest fear is becoming a reality that the Club will make do with almost anything as long as qualification for the Champions League is assured and revenue and sponsorship deals keep rolling in.

You won't like this but I think he deserves another year as progress has been made in respect of matches won and points gained. I do get the feeling however that he has run out of patience and ideas, deep down he knows that this team simply doesn't have the desire or consistency to challenge City and if he doesn't get the players he wants in the summer this could all implode by Christmas. Watch this space.


3.) 05 May 2018 11:24:51
So how is it mourinhos fault the players aren't capable? You can give the tools but if they don't perform that's them. Not him. Everything is there to succeed. The players let themselves down. Management only goes so far.

Clearly beast, mourinho controls those players via brain command to fail in playing to potential. All Jose's fault. Give it a rest, maybe just maybe the players have no spine. Mourinho is a serial winner, our team are serial bottlers. End of. Guardiola wouldn't have this overpaid bunch of dross playing any better and anyone who thinks otherwise should give their head a shake. The standard of our team is the problem.


4.) 05 May 2018 12:54:08
Bang on red whiskey. Poor players in too many cases.


5.) 05 May 2018 13:17:24
The standard of the team is the responsibility of the manager. If they are bottlers and no good why do they command such high fees and wages? Why are they playing dozens of games for us each season? Why after 2 years has he not remedied the situation? Every single one of them is a full international for good international sides pretty much!

Everyone to blame but Jose, ridiculous, his job is to ensure the team is prepared, advised and deliver. If he is unable to do that then I fail to see the point in having a manager.

I think some people need to look up what a manager's role is. Bitching and moaning is what we do, he is simply transferring the responsibility onto the players like all charlatans do. Staff reflect their manager in every walk of life, and you wonder why we have a team full of bottlers and prima dona's.

Imagine saying to the owner of a company that you are meant to be managing for him, 'sorry that the workforce aren't doing what they are meant to all the time, they are being told and aren't listening to me. I think we need to hire 25 new employees that may listen (the 10 or so I recently hired won't listen either by the way so I need to double the budget) . I'm pretty sure the owner of the company would identify the problem very quickly and it involves just one replacement!


6.) 05 May 2018 14:10:05
Good deal if you can get it, win and be called a serial winner and a major reason for the success but lose and it's nothing to do with you it's the players fault as you don't send them telepathic messages. Which you must somehow do when you win.


7.) 05 May 2018 15:36:38
Beast. I couldn't agree more. i'm going to write this post and put it in my calender to remind people next year. Mourinho has won lots of trophies and we congratulate him on that. However, he has been a major let down while he's been here.
These performamces are simply unacceptable. Trying and failing to motivate players should not be an option. Blaming the players for these terrible performances should not be the default mode.
What has mourinho achieved with regards style of play? Nothing. What has he done for pogba martial rashford and bailly? Nothing. What has he achieved to make us a more attacking team? Nothing.
So how are we going to turn into world beaters when tge mamager and players can't be bothered to turn up for some matches. I'm sorry, but we'll be talking about the same things next year as nothing is going to change.


 

 

30 Apr 2018 11:34:26
Sanchez - I think the problem is he isn't very quick over anything more than 5 yards and he is too isolated. He works best with quick incisive play, rapid reaction speed. However he always seems to have acres to run in order to penetrate and the closest Utd player is a distance away - which allows the defender to get back or the pass he makes to be telegraphed.

Very similar situation with Mata, Miki and various others. When Sanchez moved to the right he just literally positioned himself behind Monreal, it was terrible to see and showed he is feeling a bit lost and lacking confidence.

Unless our midfield and full backs support properly, at pace, then he is going to be wasted. Lukaku is not the right striker for intricate players either, he isn't intelligent enough with his movement or technically sound enough to link intricately. He has done well and worked hard, but we are too much of a mix of technical and lumps at the minute.

We have been horrible to watch most games of the season because we are a team unsure of how to use possession effectively and our players are effective at different types of football.

Pogba is a magic players - that likes to watch his own magic trick - unreliable and delays passes too much for my liking.

Matic is good at picking up loose balls and playing accurate passes, but he lacks the mobility to support at pace.

Lingard is a great worker, makes good runs but is not very effective at linking as he is not sure how to play that part of the game, so it means either he is found by a good pass or he is redundant.

Fullbacks - have no idea when or how to attack despite being wingers.

Basically whenever we attack we are short of numbers and pace. Frustrating to watch and explains why so many times we are isolated and create very little, despite dominating the ball in ineffective areas - fitness and having players that know how to play the same game is essential if we are to progress.

The Beast

1.) 30 Apr 2018 13:02:25
Hey Beast, in the last few weeks alone, we have beaten City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal. that's not too shabby given our players don't know what or how to play. I would rather stick with these bunch of amateurs.


2.) 30 Apr 2018 13:09:24
Good post beast, agree with the majority of it. Comparing the way we play that 4-3-3 system to way city play is quite striking in how fluent they look and how clunky we look.

The likes of sterling and sane are predominantly staying as wide as possible and constantly making runs from out to in, keeping opposition full backs on their toes. Where as sanchez and lingard or martial or rashford or mata are constantly drifting inside and we end up so congested.

I know silva and de bruyne have been sensational this season and comparing them to pogba and herrera is harsh but they make it look it so simple, everything they do is one two touch and done at pace. Where as we always take that extra touch and stall our own attacks.

I do disagree however on lukaku, i think he has been really good this season and can hold his head up high. 25-30 goals a season is a decent return and his all round game has improved a lot since the start of the season. One position we don't have to worry about in summer along with keeper.


3.) 30 Apr 2018 13:25:13
Beast, couldn’t have said it better myself mate. I’m seeing exactly the same as you.

United addict, we’ve had some good results, but the footballs been terrible for the best part of the season

Dsg, beast did say Lukaku has done well, with his goal tally you’d have to say he has. But he’s not a clever technical player and never will be. He’s not a patch on say Firmino of Liverpool.


4.) 01 May 2018 09:30:14
Beast it's a very good point that about Sanchez.


 

 

 

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05 Jun 2018 15:35:25
Yeah you are missing the fact we aren't Arsenal mate.

3rd year in is the 'prove it' season, not another transition season. Every top club has to contend with the World Cup. Most top clubs buy several players in the transfer window.

Jose's philosophy can be learnt in 94 minutes, just have them watch the film "127 hours", survive the onslaught, dismember your heritage, and grind it out until the bitter end!

Since when has the financial targets of the club been the targets of the fans? I don;t care where we finish personally, I'd just like to think the past 2 years of dross football have been building to something pleasing on the eye and bringing in entertainment value from the massive investments we have made.

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30 May 2018 09:58:09
I can't believe this story has any legs at all. Grealish is a decent player for Championship, Lower level prem. Snodgrass style.

He looks decent because almost everything is played through him - does anyone think for one second he will touch the ball half as much at a top club? He is also very wasteful, for every decent thing he does, he seems to give it away or makes the wrong decision 5 times.

I'd be frankly amazed if we attempt to sign him, and this comes from somebody who has almost zero faith in our transfer policy!

That's without considering his ego/ attitude problems - although he may fit in nicely on that front!

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28 May 2018 14:54:01
BoyfromBurrenway - I think you are looking at it the wrong way mate for this particular point. Nobody should have a problem with the club making the most of it's brand to gain sponsors.

The problem is when those sponsorship deals come first, ie, tractor sponsor says to the club we will sponsor you for X amount if you sign Bale! Or there are two potential signings, one is more suited to the team, but the other is more financially beneficial sponsorship wise - where do you think we would go?

The sense I get and I assume many others get, is that we would tend to choose money making as a short-term priority. You can get both of course but that is why people can be a bit 'snarky'.

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17 May 2018 21:11:21
Likewise mate.

I've got a bit on Belgium, I've been banging the drum for them for the past 6-7 years managed to get 16/ 1 I think a couple of years back, but the price hasn't moved much since. Was going to have a bet on the group qualifiers but it seems so obvious and the odds are so rubbish it isn't worth it, as you say there is always a sneaky one.

I think England may be the surprise team, I fancy S/ F at least.

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17 May 2018 18:49:36
Ken - I want a LB for sure, but only because this manager won't play Shaw - who has been perfectly fine whenever played. If he would just give Shaw a run of games then we could all see what the supposed problem is, but he plays him, Shaw upsets the apple cart by doing well and he then drops him I assume hoping he throws his toys out the pram.

I just think our problems will remain even if we sign a RB/ LB and 9 other players - because the major issue is the person telling those players how he wants them to play. So I am anti Jose because he is so important and in my eyes the only reason we are so poor to watch.

Let's move on anyway mate, long summer ahead and hopefully some good footy to enjoy.

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20 Jun 2018 09:24:29
It sounds awesome, alas I'm probably not going to be in the UK.

If it continues to appeal and more and more people are interested, it might be a good idea to have a mini-banter world cup. Have the different pages represented, maybe start with a 6-a-side tournament, obviously City will need to hire a bunch of mercenaries to represent them, lol.

If I'm about I'll definitely come and support and throw in a few bob. Keep up the good work guys.

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19 Jun 2018 08:40:57
No I'm serious mate, vast majority of the games have been like watching teams of strangers play - just like watching Utd. There are moments of quality, but on the whole the quality of football has been pretty poor. Very few good chances created, loads of set-piece goals.

Internationals are often like this (especially early on in tournaments), it's to be expected - but it does remind me a lot of when I watch us almost every game. We have quality players but it's all very individualistic with not much trust/ know-how with your comrades in arms. Thing is I expect the quality teams to gel as the tournament progresses, we on the other hand look just the same game 1 of the season to game 50.

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18 Jun 2018 21:02:42
What has been missed is the fact that before the last friendly Southgate said the players are competing for a starting role. Rashford had a blinder in that friendly, then is on the bench - does not compute with me, complete lies!

When will people start being accountable for what they actually say again.

At least we won in the end. PLEASE Jose buy a LB, Ashley Young brings absolutely nothing to the table, maybe less than Henderson.

The Beast

{Ed004's Note - Rashford picked up a knock last week and only came back in the last training session. I'm assuming he was left out because Southgate was protecting him. However, I think he left his subs to late and they weren't really attacking changes. A cb could have easily been subbed of for a more attacking player. Dele struggled after the knock he picked up early and felt Rashford could have came on for him earlier in the contest}


 

 

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18 Jun 2018 17:34:48
Cha Ching, Lu-Lu-Lukaku! haha.

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18 Jun 2018 17:24:48
It's what I hate about International Football - below average managers for the most part expected to figure out how to gel a team full of superstars, never going to happen! Then you have 1-2 average players that mess up the moves the team develops. When I look at Germany dropping Sane, Belgium dropping Nainggolan and various others you just know what to expect.

I am about to throw a chunk of change on England for the World Cup, I have seen nothing so far that scares me. It has been a World Cup full of Man Utd's so far - maybe this could be the year!

The Beast