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20 Mar 2018 00:19:04
Hi Eds - Just wondering if Utd are still interested in Carlos Soler and if you can shed any light on a potential deal?

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - There is interest but Valencia are not keen to sell.}


1.) 20 Mar 2018 08:01:42
Ed002, awhile back there was reports United was interested in another Valencia player, Jose Gaya. Is there any interest there is was it just click bait?

{Ed002's Note - JM was interested when he was at Chelsea, but I gues MU might add him to the list of LBs they are interested in.}


2.) 20 Mar 2018 17:55:07
Ed002, if you don't mind who is on that list of LB's and will Shaw move on in the summer? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed - if Mourinho were to leave maybe Shaw will stay but right now he wants him gone and would like one of the following:
Danny Rose (LB)
Aaron Martin (LB)
Alex Sandro (LB) - I would strike him from the list now but don't be surprised if he reappears - it all depends on a player at another club
Philipp Max (LB)}


3.) 20 Mar 2018 17:56:26
Cheers Ed.


4.) 20 Mar 2018 19:16:36
Cheers Ed.


5.) 20 Mar 2018 19:31:12
I suspect that Philipp Max will end up at Bayern Munich if Alaba leaves. Ironically he looks like a really good left back. Just the kind I would like to see brought in. Young, talented and hungry with loads of potential.


6.) 21 Mar 2018 04:31:26
Ed2 are united looking at sessengon.

{Ed002's Note - there was interest when JM was at another side.}


7.) 21 Mar 2018 12:06:37
Huggy, allegedly Shaw is quite hungry, too :)


 

 

21 Feb 2018 23:45:43
I'm reading a lot of people justifying that pathetic performance. SAF played like this in Europe, Sevilla are tough at home, no easy games at this stage of the competition.

The thing is we play like this whenever we come up against a half decent team. Incidentally Moyes took us away in Europe and we played some great stuff, remember the guy that had no European experience?

Sevilla are not up to much, but we were lucky to escape with a draw tonight however you want to dress it up. They will be very dangerous at OT, far more dangerous than we were tonight.

Maybe it was like this sometimes under SAF, but only "SOMETIMES" with Jose it's every time. If we go out to Sevilla, it's because we didn't play to win tonight.

It would be nice to not read BS excuses to justify this rubbish we are subjected to almost every week. Maybe my drum is getting worn out, but the excuse bank is surely out of coin by now. It's just not good enough, we put up with a rubbish Europa League campaign to qualify for this by the skin of our teeth and then put in these types of performances! WTFP?

The Beast

1.) 21 Feb 2018 23:57:48
How many games did Moyes do us proud in Europe? Was it just the Leverkusen game or . No one is saying Jose is producing exceptional football bit my god the hyperbole in here is ridiculous.


2.) 21 Feb 2018 23:59:13
Goos post Beast and i reckon we houdlve gone for the kill today as i hope but Jose played it safe which is quite sad considering how poor Sevilla were today.

The players look scared to try something exciting ncase it doesn't work and jose gets angry.

They are all under strict rules by the looks of it.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 00:20:46
Made attacking substitutions the team just didn't click going forward.


4.) 22 Feb 2018 01:32:09
Weren't they like for like subs (Rashford/ Martial for Sanchez/ Mata)? It's not clicking because we attack with 3 men maximum, often just 2 - we have forgotten how to attack as a team as it seems our main focus is on keeping teams out, not making them keep us out.

It's anti-Utd and it isn't hyperbole if it happens virtually every time we play a team that isn't prepared to curl up and die.


5.) 22 Feb 2018 10:10:12
Couldn’t agree more beast. Went away yet again not to get beaten rather than trying to take the game to them. Nobody here can tell me man for man Sevilla are a better side than us, so why not attack them, why be happy with a bore draw? Anyone who things a nil nil is a good away score line is mistaken. A score draw not too bad, but a nil nil means we now have to win the return leg. Score draw and we’re out. Pathetic performance once again last night, nothing is inproving.


6.) 22 Feb 2018 11:44:57
Rubbish europa league campaign? You mean the one we won? Oh no we won a trophy but we didn't win it in this specific way that makes me happy. Are you aware of how spoilt you sound. You know this is why fans of other clubs hate us - a huge amount of us have got too used to success. We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase. Yes a lot of money has been spent but the team needed and needs a lot of work. Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club.


7.) 22 Feb 2018 12:56:33
Beast, you called it absolutely right. If De Gea hadn't made unbelievable saves, we will be looking at a 2 or 3 nil scoreline. I hate the passionless, clueless displays. I hate the lack of cohesion in the team. This result is not a good result, one goal for Seville and we have to score two. Even if we score first, we will still be extremely nervous.
I would say it is advantage Seville.
But the most ridiculous post i'd the one from 12daysofhemida. "A huge amount of us have got used to success", "We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase", "Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club". These are exactly the type of comments that drive me potty. How could you get too used to success? So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? Utter tripe. Then he mentions we are still rebuilding, we have been rebuilding for five years. A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. All the top clubs are in a constant state of rebuilding. Harking back to the old times? History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history.
If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values.


8.) 22 Feb 2018 15:03:38
Attack x3 you'd make a fine spin doctor.

"So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? "

The few years of rubbish performances HAPPENED under Moyes and LVG. Alongside that were rubbish results. No one was happy, myself included. Now Jose has improved RESULTS a hell of a lot. The performances (last night included) are still often poor. You cannot expect results and performances to be improved when the squad is substandard for a title tilt. Jose is improving us.

"we have been rebuilding for five years. "

Yes, that's just how bad we got.

"A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. "

I agree, but that is exactly what the club allowed to happen. Expecting five years of stagnation to be corrected in two years is unrealistic.

"History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. "

Once again we agree. history has shown us that sticking by a manager when we fans are calling for his head can be beneficial. Can you imagine what would have happened if the fans had been listened to with Fergie? Also whilst we're talking about history, here's one from Fergie, "Attack wins you games, defence wins you leagues. " I think that is what Mourinho is trying to do.

"So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history. "

Er. no. Just no. I can't even think of a witty, relevant or scathing retort to that. Sorry.

"If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values. "

Let me see if I can do your putting words in other people's mouth shtick. so if we don't play well and win you we should all stop supporting Utd? Utter tripe, piddle and tomfoolery.

We weren't built on attacking entertaining football it's a philosophy we have played more often than not since the days of Busby. A style of play that I love and miss, but since Ferguson left that philosophy has been left behind, through poor appointments, mismanagement and NOW necessity. Our defence isn't up to task and so we need to play more defensively.

Whilst having a nosy around the internet, I found this description of Newton Heath in their first season. "Tough, diligent men who formed a powerful side. " Sounds a lot like a Mourinho side. Maybe we were built on stoic defending first, entertaining football second (like all good teams) .


9.) 22 Feb 2018 18:22:17
Great post 12 days.
Beast the performances are poor but its the players not the manager.
How many top class players in our squad?
Not even top class on the european stage top class in epl. Jose performing minor miricle to keep them competitive imo.


10.) 22 Feb 2018 20:34:16
Great posts 12 days. As good as I've ever seen on here to be honest. Great way of debating.


11.) 22 Feb 2018 22:10:35
Oh come on now, it's ridiculous. People are still plugging their same view week in week out.

The fact is, there are some very good and some not so good players in the squad. It's the same for the rest of the top 6 or so teams. It's the manager's job to get the best out of them.

If your idea of getting the best of them is by holding the better players back to set up defensively and grind out results, then we'll agree that Mourinho is doing well. If your idea of an attacking, exciting and progressive style of football is the way forward, then he's not the right man.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 19:14:26
Hopefully this Costa incident is the trigger for the much needed Chelsea collapse. Win on Sunday and everyone will be scared that we are coming for them.

The Beast

{Ed025's Note - my fear beast is that they may make a move for lukaku now, he would jump at the chance imo mate..


1.) 13 Jan 2017 20:52:24
We, I really don't rate Lukaku, I know he can sometimes bully CBs and score dramatic goals but generally he looks like a fat lump blundering around. Just my view of course.

{Ed025's Note - thats very nasty and short sighted of you AJH...but very true.. :)


2.) 13 Jan 2017 22:07:38
He's like that heavily made up blonde on a night out who looks very tasty until you get her into the light, beer googles at their most seductive.


3.) 13 Jan 2017 22:10:18
😂😂😂


4.) 14 Jan 2017 03:46:48
If costa is sold or even just has a falling out with conte, we really need to beat liverpool, as i was hoping and i think most utd fans will agree, if we aren't able to win the league it is better if chelsea do it rather than one of city or liverpool.


5.) 14 Jan 2017 11:16:54
Lukaku is perfect for Chelsea's system but he's no Diego Costa. I can't see them letting him go this January though although a summer deal makes sense.


6.) 14 Jan 2017 12:13:23
I know Costa is expensive but £80 million for a coffee is just ridiculous.


7.) 14 Jan 2017 14:26:04
I'm not sure about timing but I read that the Chinese are going to be clamping down big time on the money being spent by their clubs, as a means of capital controls (just doing it with Bitcoin now) . So maybe there is a major timing factor involved, possibly a one time opportunity for the start of their new season.

Possibly why the amounts in question seem so desperate and why Costa is trying to force a move now. Just speculating of course.


8.) 14 Jan 2017 19:56:59
Costa isn't trying to force his way out.


9.) 15 Jan 2017 01:30:24
i hope costa stays where he is (and stops scoring) because if he leaves they might bid for moussa dembele of celtic.


10.) 15 Jan 2017 13:36:29
hmm Jackson, who knows what to believe. Quite a coincidence we were only talking of something like this the other day. That said you still smashed Leicester and have a £30m striker rotting on the bench, so still need a few more spanners in the works to give us a sniff.


11.) 16 Jan 2017 19:38:40
Hope he stays. He's saved my dream team this season.


 

 

01 Jul 2016 17:29:56
I just read that Neymar signs a 5 year deal, but his buyout clause rises the further he gets into his contract, this seems odd to me is it odd?

It's almost as if they are telling clubs to come and get him now if they are interested.

Does anybody know what his buyout was prior to the new contract? It's now £167m for the first year, rising to 186m 2nd year and then £209 for the third), on the Beeb.

The Beast

1.) 01 Jul 2016 18:07:30
Not sure but this deal is pretty sensible from barca, with teams like palace throwing £30m at Marseille for that Belgian lad who knows how much players will be going for in 5 years, it's gone even more ridiculous this year.


2.) 01 Jul 2016 18:08:46
Beast I don't know enough about buy out clauses but it makes great sense for the owners as under normal circumstances the players value decreases as his contact runs down. It also means that they will be in no rush to Renew and give him another rise in order to uphold his value.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 19:34:13
Great points guys, hadn't even considered that in my haste.


 

 

10 Jul 2015 16:38:30
Hi Ed's - I am a regular contributor to the site as you may know. Several people ask about a fantasy football league each year and I have been part of one for the past 4/5 years, I can vouch for the credibility of it. I didn't want to post on the website without your permission first, this is what I want to post, do you mind?

"I am part of a dream team league, ran by a chap called Andy. I have done this for the past 4+years and it works a treat. You pay £50 upfront and each month there is a prize for manager of the month, the remaining money goes into a pot for the top 3 managers of the year - all registration fees are redistributed to winning managers. I have personally won a few managers of the month and have been paid appropriately. This is just a group of guys coming together and nothing formal/company orchestrated, so if you want to join the league the code is 90970-25762 (it is the Fantasy Premier League). Andy will provide you with his acct details if you join and over recent seasons we have had over 50 people in the league – it was primarily a group of friends but I have asked him if he would mind me opening it up to my “banter buddies” and he has no problem so long as it causes him no issues"

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - Sure, no problem.}


1.) 10 Jul 2015 17:24:08
Super Beast, Might join you on that .


2.) 10 Jul 2015 19:35:39
Now I'm confused yesterday someone was going to setup a FF competition for the lads all here at no cost, I think that £50 is a tad steep especially when in euros it's 70 or more for your one Beast.

Now I'm not a tight git but I try play the FF gig and more times than not forget to change players etc, as I get caught up in stuff at home or within family homes doing repairs etc so miss a lot of the tactical changes lol!!

If we were to set up a MUFC page FF competition and at a cost of €20/25 I would enter it no problem


3.) 10 Jul 2015 20:02:09
Pyramid Scheme!


4.) 10 Jul 2015 23:10:25
We had one for free last season, not sure who set it up but we had over 70 people in it from this website.

The one I am talking about has cash aspects attached so obviously won't be for everyone. I throw in £50 with this guys league because if you win a manager of the month its normally £80-£100, then £1k or so to overall winner.

Horses for courses, I just put it out there as some people were asking and I have always been paid on time.


 

 

 

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24 Apr 2019 18:16:47
Hopefully Sanchez starts tonight and the lads pass the ball to him. Looked better before his recent injury, but the 'cool gang' wouldn't play it to him when in space.

Could be the ideal game to turn his career around, he will work and deserves a chance after the fiasco of last weekend. The guys got a point to prove, hopefully Ole gives him a shot.

The Beast

1.) 24 Apr 2019 18:31:49
Team has been leaked and its something like this

DeGea, Darmian, Smalling, Lindelof, Shaw, Young, Fred, Perera, Pogba, Lingard abd Rashford.

Not very convinving if that is true!


2.) 24 Apr 2019 18:44:30
I hope this is wrong, but thanks Singh - I'd expect no more than 30% possession with that lot, I don't see how we will keep the ball in their half - scary that it's come to this.


 

 

23 Dec 2018 13:30:23
Great result, even better performance. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it does show that simply telling the players to enjoy themselves and play with attacking intent and energy, is often all that is needed.

There will be many hard games to come, but seeing the weight lifted from so many of the lads was nice to see.

I'm excited to watch the next game as I am expecting free-flowing attacking football, more expectation than hope for once!

Rival fans will be worried again already.

The Beast

1.) 23 Dec 2018 14:40:57
Mourinho's style seems to be to heap pressure on the players, this eventually seems to cause the players to reach a breaking point where the pressure, expectation and demands seems to crush them and they stop enjoying their football. That works at some clubs. However, our club has always been about expressing yourself, and playing exciting football. Jose's sort of style just doesn't sit well with our players, it doesn't sit well with our fans and it doesn't align with our history.

We are just a better team when we attack, we need to remember this and play to our strengths. It really is that simple.


2.) 23 Dec 2018 15:10:42
“Rival fans will be worried again already”, mate I was literally Sh***ing myself after the Fulham game now I’m beyond terrified. 🙄😂.


3.) 23 Dec 2018 15:35:45
Stoner you are obsessed with united mate 😂.


4.) 23 Dec 2018 15:44:19
Obsessed, amused you mean Park, 5 years of comedy gold and counting. 😂😂.


5.) 23 Dec 2018 16:15:41
Stoner my friend, remind me when you last won the League, or anything of note really. Good start under Emery but a long way to go. You can protest all you like but yesterday was a throwback to the real United. One game, but let’s see what happens next eh?


6.) 23 Dec 2018 16:23:08
Stoner, Arsenal have won 3 FA cups since United last won the league, United have won 1 FA cup, 1 League cup and the Europa League. So pretty even on paper. Also considering it is 14 years and counting since Arsenal's last league title, I consider you laughing at us for 5 years to be rather amusing.

Also the fact you are on the United page the day after the best result and performance from a United side in 5 years proves the point that we have made you sit up and take notice, which is the first step to making you worry about us again. Proving Beasts point. Thanks for that. lol.


7.) 23 Dec 2018 19:06:20
AJH,

It’s not about what we have or haven’t won, it’s not about whether Emery is going to be a good fit or work wonders it’s about the comedic posts on here after what is highly likely another false dawn.

Shappy you need to pop over to the Arsenal page, I give you pelters over there every week. It’s not what Arsenal may win or have won fella it’s all about what you’re not going to win and the the particular two teams most likely to win.

But thanks for the effort fella, CTR has clearly taught you well. 😂😂😂.


8.) 23 Dec 2018 19:21:58
It's not about what we have or haven't won. That's convenient.


9.) 23 Dec 2018 19:57:22
Noucamp, what can I say mate, it’s not my fault, if even as a cop, you don’t get it.

Your team is utter pants, it has been 5 long years in the making to get it that bad and thus you have become the gift that just keeps giving.

The added bonus is that if you finally try to turn the corner next season you will be taking the Spuds manager. 😂.


10.) 23 Dec 2018 20:08:07
Oh silly me, I forgot I was dealing with an Arsenal fan. With Wenger over the last 10-12 years it's never been about winning trophies, is it playing style or enjoying your team? I don't remember now. But it certainly wasn't about winning.

Oh yeah, now I remember. It's about the Arsenal fan speciality. It's not about your team beating us to a title, it's about you glorifying in another team beating us to a title.

I forgot how far Arsenal had fallen, where they cheer on teams finishing higher than them as long as that team stops us from winning. I suppose that made more sense when half the Arsenal team played for the blue half of Manchester.

Emery has lifted your team, how far he can take them I'm not sure. But he has you competing for the forth place trophy again. So I can understand the excitement from you Gunners.


11.) 23 Dec 2018 21:12:26
Shappy,

Seriously mate, try and get a grip, you have had 5 years of misery, it doesn’t matter if it’s an Arsenal, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Everton or a fan of any other team telling you.

You can cite what you like about who won what and when but because you were collectively such odious people when you were winning everyone is revelling in your failing.

How you treat others on the way up is how you get treated on the way down, suck it up mate and get over yourself. 🙄.


12.) 23 Dec 2018 21:58:22
Stoner by name.


13.) 23 Dec 2018 22:52:33
Stoner, you're hilarious if you expect us to swallow that.
Firstly if you truly felt that you should treat people a certain way on your way up then why be a hypocrite and while Arsenal are having a better season go to opposition fans and attempt to send them pelters? So either you don't believe that, your a damn fool, or more likely your trying to cover your exposed arse.

Secondly, if it is about "revelling" in our misery then where have you been all season? We have been miserable for 16+ games yet you could not be seen. Then bam, we have one good performance and your straight on here. Don't try and kid yourself, it has nothing to do with revelling in our misery. Your concerned that after just one good performance we could be on the road back. So to make yourself feel better you feel the need to come on here and try and burst our bubble.

The funny thing is, that the return of opposition fans on here is the first real sign that we might be on our way back. If Ole can worry you that much in one performance that shows how little faith you have in your team and how concerned you are about ours.

So cheers, your return has no doubt put even bigger smiles on the faces of my fellow United supporters. Thanks for that.


14.) 24 Dec 2018 00:51:04
DB you beat me to it

Stoner by name. 🙄.


15.) 24 Dec 2018 06:03:17
Shappy,

I’m the one kidding myself, hilarious. So this is the very first great result or performance or shall I say false dawn you’ve had in 5 whole years? Yeah right of course it is.

Like I said I’m literally kacking myself at how fabulous you’ve become, that as per usual Smalling, Jones, Valencia, Mata, Young, Darmian, Shaw, Fellaini, Herrera, Fred, Rojo, Lukaku, Lingard, Martial and the show pony are going to be winning titles and Champions league finals within the week.

Beasts comment was just to funny to simply pass by. So have a word with yourself fella. 😂😂😂.


16.) 24 Dec 2018 10:37:57
Stoner, the first rule of losing an argument is change the argument.

Which you are doing with every new reply.

No one has said we are ready to win the league ect ect.

Just that for the first time in 5 years we witnessed a true United performance. Pace, passion and attacking intent. Was it perfect? No, but it was the best we have played in 5 years. Nearly everyone is saying let's wait and see.

But I promise you one thing, even with the clear deficiencies in our squad not a single United supporter would swap squads with Arsenal.

So I can understand your concern, we have a better squad, more money to invest further and have started to play close to our potential.

Spurs are doing well in Europe as well, I'm sure that hurts too. Lol.


17.) 24 Dec 2018 11:53:58
Well said shappy. Stoner I sometimes pop on the arsenal page and all you do is talk about united. Obsessed much? 😂 granted we ain’t great at the moment but we will improve and get better. Merry Xmas to you mate and see you at the emirates next year 😉.


18.) 24 Dec 2018 12:13:47
No Shappy, the first rule of losing an argument is to pretend you’ve won it. Nice try fella and I would have De Gea and Rashford from your squad and that’s it.

Park I say it how I see it, I don’t butter up any shizzle, including how good or bad Arsenal may be.

See you next year fella, looking forward to it as always.


19.) 24 Dec 2018 13:28:18
Is that how you win your arguments?

That sounds more like delusion to me.

Each to their own. See you next year bud. Hopefully when your big enough to come on here and say well done after we beat your lot.

Remember, our poor squad who you wouldn't take anyone bar DDG and Rashford from finish above your team last year while we were playing poorly. I wonder where we would finish if we could get this squad playing well?


20.) 25 Dec 2018 04:44:44
Stoner, put your money where your mouth is.
Tell us about Arsenal? How good are you right now?
When are you going to win the title? When are you going to win anything?

Worry about your own team and we’ll worry about United. That’s why we’re called supporters not detractors! I’ve never been to an Arsenal page because they are of no interest to me. I’m a Man United supporter.

Your old mate Merson has a nerve to say Man United should apologise. what about Arsenal’s last 14 years? Their best finish? Second. Once in 14 years.

We won the league 5 times in that period and runners up 4 times. And he thinks we should be apologising, comical.


 

 

19 Dec 2018 18:29:44
If Ole pulls up trees then money talks and I can't see him going back to Molde (first month will tell the club a lot) . If he doesn't then the club will make the change and I imagine start serious planning soon - it's risk free because literally anybody with a smile on their face could do better with this group of players now. Unfortunately Jose is a fantastic coach but lost too many of the players imo. His style suited a different type of team and era.

I'm delighted we have hired a manager that knows the Utd way and is intelligent, young and will not be too proud to try new things and evolve. The club need to have a manager that let's the players play, we will see how good they really are over the coming months and that is great for whoever does end up coming in.

I'm optimistic and hope Ole get's the boys playing positive football, the fans and players all need to start enjoying it again.

The Beast

1.) 19 Dec 2018 19:33:23
Can we get a pool going to see when Beast turns on Ole?

I'll say 7:30pm on Saturday night when a 2-0 win at Cardiff isn't good enough.

I'm only joking mate. Welcome back to the light!


2.) 19 Dec 2018 20:33:05
Beast turns on Ole?

Well he is a hot piece of arse. I know he turns me on.


3.) 19 Dec 2018 20:57:32
Cheers Mumbles, most optimistic I've been for an age. He needs Christmas to turn around the rot in the changing room which can be done that quick imo, so long as he is sincere and let's the players do their thing on the pitch.

Ole has the right credentials for me, I think his rawness is an asset, Danny knows what I'm talking about, lol!


4.) 19 Dec 2018 21:42:57
Beast

I can’t agree about Solskjaer, have to respect the legend but it is a huge risk. Long term it is Pochettino for me.


5.) 20 Dec 2018 00:23:15
Redman
Poch really? You told me he had won nothing etc only a month ago.
Solskjaer isn't a risk it a short term appointment until we get the man we want .
Which will all be sorted all ready.


6.) 20 Dec 2018 06:45:34
Jred

There are risks with any manager we put in if the background structure is not there, if Mourinho can’t do it the decision is difficult. I don’t believe it was a month ago either, are you a time lord? If you go back to when LvG was in place I wanted it to be a preparation for Pep, the club had no such plan. I said then it had to be Mourinho but Pochettino was a dark horse to be considered. Now, It is a risk that he hasn’t won anything but when you take his development of young players into account together with our youth potential he has become my No1 choice.


7.) 20 Dec 2018 08:48:21
Good thing about Solskjær is that he knows both Pogba and Lingard as players pretty good. They both won the youthcup with him as manager and there could not be any better man to come in atm.
Think he could get the best out of pur strikers, and all his teams are set up to score more than the other team. The only thing is the physical aspect, cause he wants to press high and always press the ball. Could take a few games for them to sort it out, though.


 

 

05 Dec 2018 13:41:02
What do our fans on here want?

Beat Arsenal and Jose stays - Agree
Lose to Arsenal and Jose goes - Disagree.

The Beast

1.) 05 Dec 2018 13:48:12
Jose stays until it's cheap enough to sack him either way beast. Mourinho has had enough sly digs at Woodward that any other CEO would have kicked him out already. But his incompetence seems to know no bounds.


2.) 05 Dec 2018 13:58:27
I want him gone he’s had long enough and it’s getting worse. He’s not totally to blame as the club is rotten from top to bottom at the moment.


3.) 05 Dec 2018 14:16:25
Anyone who wants their club to lose doesn't deserve to be called a fan in my opinion.


4.) 05 Dec 2018 14:19:09
Sorry, Beast. I'm no fan of him, as you know, but I could never bring myself to hope we lose a game before it's been played. However a loss tonight and against Liverpool, would probably mean time up in my eyes.


5.) 05 Dec 2018 14:45:36
Well said GDS and Noucamp. I could never wish for us to lose just because we want a manager sacked.


6.) 05 Dec 2018 15:10:15
We all know that one day Mourinho will be gone. So I’d take the win.


7.) 05 Dec 2018 15:52:42
Never wish us to lose. Even if it means Jose stays. He will be gone soon it’s inevitable. But I never ever want to see us lose at home to arsenal. I used to hate them when we were competing for titles all those years ago. I would ngl want to give them the satisfaction of beating them on our turf. Nobody should ever come to our ground and have an easy day out. I know old Trafford is not currently a fortress, but we need to get back to the times where teams where beat before they even took the pitch.


8.) 05 Dec 2018 16:33:14
Woodward's a bean counter he won't sack Jose until its more financially beneficial to do so under whatever clauses are in the contract. Jose should ritualistically slaughter a puppy on the pitch but as long as there's a mathematical chance of top 4 he's safe. In an ideal world both would go.


9.) 05 Dec 2018 17:18:13
The day I become a guy that wants my club to lose a game so that a manager loses his job, the club doesn't deserve me.

GDS
You wrote what I was thinking. Fully agree. If you want us to lose tonight to get Jose the sack then sorry you are not a fan, you are a glory hunter, a scumbag even imo.

{Ed025's Note - im with you deependra..


10.) 05 Dec 2018 17:24:51
Scumbag is a bit much deeps but i'm with you and gds.

Would people want their parents to die so they can get their inheritence? that's scum.


11.) 05 Dec 2018 17:47:24
Would never wish for a loss and ever the optimist, just put a couple of bets on.

If, If the worst happens and we did lose the next couple it could end up being squeaky bumtime from now till may hope to god we don't . 2-1 to us with tony grabbing a birthday present off the gunners back 4;)


12.) 05 Dec 2018 17:49:05
There might not be a fan on here who wants Jose gone as much as I do. I might have said on occasion that I never wanted him and I have been known to be critical of him when its deserved in my opinion. However, I have never wanted the team to lose, ever. And I never will do, even if a loss meant the end of Jose at United. I want us to win every game, I want us to at the very least finish top four this season as I hate the idea of not being in the UCL next season. I'm a firm believer that if you give him enough rope Jose will hang himself, there is no need to wish the team to lose.


13.) 05 Dec 2018 17:55:29
Definitely a win; never ever want us to lose, regardless of the situation.


14.) 05 Dec 2018 18:20:02
There are 8 thumbs down on the OP (according to my phone at least) .

I think this proves the point ed002 has been making for a long time now, our club has a "toxic fanbase" although these people shouldn't actually be considered fans. They aren't supporters of the team, they are glory hunters at best.


15.) 05 Dec 2018 18:33:17
Jesus. This is what our 'fans' have become.

{Ed025's Note - not all of them angel, a small minority who have made a snap judgement based on wanting the manager out, im sure in the light of day they will regret what they said there and if not then do you really want supporters like that mate?..


16.) 05 Dec 2018 18:55:15
Same here, Cookyman. Wee sneaky fiver on 2-1 to us. Should mean we'll lose 3-0 now 😁.


17.) 05 Dec 2018 19:02:16
I have a good friend of 40 0dd years who is a city fan, he always reminds me, that no matter what he stuck by his team, even when they were in the old 3rd division playing Gillingham.

Some of our fans need a bit of perspective

Yes it is entertainment and like other entertainment, if you don't enjoy don't go, but just like your favourite band put out a rubbish album every now and again, they still remain your favourite band and you hope for a better one next time.

Same with football, having a bad stretch, but we have been spoiled, and remember the good times, to tide us over until the next great album is made.

Wanting your team to lose so the manager is sacked. that is a daft hypothesis. if you don't like it, go choose a new favourite band.


18.) 05 Dec 2018 16:51:29
Never want the team to lose. Jose will be gone soon enough. I don't think any manager will get us into top 4 this year i'd rather dump 7 or 8 players and let the new man start without the hassle of having to get rid of the players at the start of next season.
Darmian valencia young rojo smalling jones fellaini mata matic herrera pogba any 7 of those should be sold imo. If the new manager has to play these guys 30 games a season we won't succeed he won't succeed because they are either past their best or not making a significant enough a contribution to justify their existence.


19.) 05 Dec 2018 16:53:51
Beat arsenal and then Jose gets the sack. Would be a great day.


20.) 05 Dec 2018 17:28:22
Scumbag little bit harsh.


21.) 05 Dec 2018 19:22:59
Man City never experienced the glory days in the same way United did, so their low status was less of a shock to the system. They did maintain crowds of around 28,000 though even in the old 3rd. Mind you, United average around 47,800 when we down to the 2nd.

The toxic fans are largely a function of the rise of social media and a malignant press. In the old days no one really got a say. In any event United fans have every right to be disappointed by our current poor performance given that the success of the club was built on their loyalty as they packed into OT week in week out, especially in the days when gates were the main source of income. And considering our levels of cash inflow it's scandalous how poor we've been doing.

I don't condone toxic fans, but then I'm not a fan of the toxic ownership and Board either.


22.) 05 Dec 2018 19:25:12
Win against the gooners!

Never want us to lose! Unless it stops the scousers winning the league.


23.) 05 Dec 2018 22:23:47
I would like the team I support to win. But then again, I’m crazy.


24.) 06 Dec 2018 09:55:28
noucamp- very close mate- still i backed 2-2 and martial to score so I'm a happy red this morning.


 

 

02 Dec 2018 12:24:25
Here's something positive (in a way) .

The next boss will hopefully be a young manager with bright ideas and an insatiable hunger to succeed. He is going to get things wrong of course. So the worse Jose is doing now the more rope we the fans will give a new manager doing the right things (Jose has benefited from this as he followed LVG and our expectations were crushed by him) .

Many of our fans have wanted to be ultra loyal and patient. I am not a patient man, but I think this core aspect of many of our fans should be encouraged for the right manager. Unfortunately both LVG and Jose were given far too much rope despite clearly showing a reluctance to evolve, they simply hunkered down because most previously successful people resort to what they know best under pressure rather than trying to adapt. In short they abused the situation rather than appreciated it.

A new manager will be rewarded if they show the right signs much more so than if they followed SAF. We as a fan base are now used to dross, so it bodes well for the next guy being given more rope and that is great if the next guy has the unique abilities necessary to manage our club.

1 - Attacking Intent
2 - Willingness to learn and evolve
3 - Passion for the club/ job/ area
4 - Works with players, rather than competing with players for praise/ glory
5 - Has a plan and buys players for that plan - both LVG and Jose have signed contradictory players for their system - whether Woody is to blame or not I don't know. But like Pep/ Klopp/ Sarri - I'd like to see us sign players for a desired end goal rather than haphazardly.
6 - Most importantly the next manager must know he is privileged to be Man Utd manager. He must value that enormous responsibility and constantly want to justify the choice made to hire him. Not what we see week in week out for the past 5 years from our ungrateful managers, who care more about themselves than their players, club and fans.

So I'm happy right now despite being subjected to this mess for the past 5+ years. The next guy has to be the right guy and that guy will be given time and resources. If we hire another old hat, who succeeded in the past by playing football not suitable to our beliefs then we are in for more of the same. BUT if the powers that be haven't learnt by now what we need then there is no way they would have risen to their positions of power. So hope is high guys, it's almost over and the next guy will have a huge advantage.

The Beast

1.) 02 Dec 2018 12:41:00
Bang on Beast, just want to see good football being played at United, been six years since we last seen it. Going to OT reminds of testimonial matches nowadays.


2.) 02 Dec 2018 12:41:00
I can't believe that i am agreeing with all you've said Beast, we do seem to be stuck in the same place going over the same things. Excuses have been made time and time again we have tried to remain positive backing Jose but its apparent that its not working. I still maintain that its not just a case of firing the manager, a lot has to change DOF needed a change in ethos the club feels tainted by failures, some time out of the spotlight to work on the basics and get the whole club moving in the right direction.


3.) 02 Dec 2018 12:57:51
Fantastic post beast and I agree with all of it. We all just want to crack open a cold beer and be entertained by Manchester United for 90 mins on the weekend. Surely that cannot be too much to ask for.


4.) 02 Dec 2018 13:07:07
Bear in mind who's picking the next manager. Its as likely to be an old crock as much as a young manager.


5.) 02 Dec 2018 14:27:32
Can't think of one Mort but i'm sure we'll find one lol.


6.) 02 Dec 2018 16:10:44
That's the best post I've ever seen from you Beast. I've been very much Jose in, but at the moment I just don't see us improving under him. There are a plethora of reasons for this that have been done to death on here but every party needs to take some responsibility. I feel that the time to act is NOW even if our first choice is not available. Give the position to someone on an interim basis - that could be young and internal or someone that is willing to step in until the end of the season to build their reputation again like Benitez did at Chelsea.

Like I said I have been very much Jose in, but the proof is in the pudding and ours is currently rancid, insipid and bland.


 

 

 

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Another potential star mis-managed by our calamitous ex-managers.

I've lost count how many false dawns we have had in recent years as we have no idea how to benefit players from loan moves and no clue how to blood them properly. Such a shame.

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03 Dec 2018 13:01:42
They will have for sure. But it's hard to factor in things like future sponsorship, future signings (ie targets want more money if not in CL or say no when they would have said yes) .

I'm sure we are hemorrhaging viewers on TV across the world, that has to have a knock on effect. Takes a lifetime to build a reputation, a few years of LVG and Jose to virtually destroy it.

People are selfish. Woody will not look good sacking yet another manager (so soon after handing him a ridiculous new deal) and failing to secure top 4. Everyone will be looking out for their own personal best interests right now rather than the club or the fans.

In a decent/ honest world. Jose would have packed his bags long ago but he wants money, Woody would have admitted his mistake long ago, but he wants money. The club would have realised we are losing our soul, but they want money. The players would have upped their game, but irrespective of performance they earn and want money.

Most players nowadays know they will earn more by forcing a move than they would by doing their job. Little morals and honour left in the game now at the top end unfortunately.

I wish we could just rip out all the poison surrounding the club and just build it back from the solid foundations we have, but the world doesn't work like that. Just like in the real world with empires, they get too big, too selfish, to greedy and ultimately the empire dies and is reborn as something else. We have bad apples throughout the club, directors, management, players - we need to cull it all before it's too late.

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26 Oct 2018 17:30:29
The owners seem to give the managers free rein, that is one thing I like about them.

Too many people use the inner machinations of the club to explain away our dire performances on the pitch. Jose has players to train, world class players, he is not being told what to do on the pitch or off it (aside from shut up it seems) . So not sure how that is an excuse for what we see every game.

If its not spending money then that is a BS excuse. He has had more than almost any manager ever. Name me a manager that doesn't want more to spend?

I don't like the way the club play nor how Jose carries himself most of the time. He thinks he is bigger than the club and has little regard for his players (most of them) or the fans. We are a laughing stock, we are boring to watch and the owners whilst not ideal certainly could be a lot worse and have frankly backed him enough.

Most clubs carry debt, he has had plenty of funds and wastes it on players he doesn't play.

I said at the time it was a travesty giving this man a new contract as well. There are more heads that need to roll, but Jose's is the first if we want to get back to where we should be any time soon.

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Danny have you seen how much he has spent? What players have kicked on under his guidance?

Jose is looking for excuses, Roman had enough of it and so should our owners. I'm not a fan of the way the club had changed, but ultimately we are not progressing anywhere near as much as we should be under his stewardship - look at what Newcastle, Burnley etc do with a pittance to spend. He has some of the worlds best players and can;t get anything from them, spent hundreds of million and it may as well have been chucked in the bin.

No the buck stops with Jose for me, owners shouldn't be throwing more good money after bad - but they should be decisive, no middle ground here. Either give him MORE money to waste or cut him loose.

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26 Oct 2018 15:21:40
I have a good guess why. Because since signing for Utd his career has gone backwards, he has been messed around, plays well one week dropped the next. See's players playing worse than him picked because of their name and simply has had enough.

He has played the past few games, how about his treatment the past few years?

Yes he has been a passenger quite often, but who hasn't been in an attacking sense (or any sense for that matter)? Martial has it all, apart from a look of desire on his face when he plays and he can be wasteful in possession (more to do with others not being up to it) . But Sanchez played week in week out, Lukaku plays week in week out and have been far inferior overall. Rashford isn't fit to lace his boots but if the manager had to pick between them he would pick Rashford every time.

Martial has been wasted, he is not half the player he could be and if he signs a contract with Jose in charge he is a mug. Shame as I want our best players to stay, but that is why he hasn't signed yet imo.

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I hope this is wrong, but thanks Singh - I'd expect no more than 30% possession with that lot, I don't see how we will keep the ball in their half - scary that it's come to this.

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Hi mate - still about just not commenting as much at the minute.

I posted a few months ago during our good run that Ole should not be given the job (yet) . The players started well against Cardiff, Huddersfield and Bournemouth - then played pretty much the same as under Jose and LVG since. We got lucky against Spurs and very lucky against PSG. This was ignored and the media with short-sighted fans jumped on the 'SIGN HIM UP' bandwagon.

I'm not anti-Ole, I just thing he needs to earn the job and we should have waited until the summer. Players are getting worse by the week, they are rotten, turn up once a month at best. Is Ole the best man to rebuild and kick out the weeds?

Unfortunately, yet again, the club had a plan and failed to deliver it, bowing to their media overlords and social media sycophants.

We are hard to watch and have had so much luck this season yet still don't look like making CL at this rate. Maybe for the best, so we can attract some players that want to fight and aren't only signing because they get to play in the CL.

Hopefully we sort it out during this long summer.

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26 Feb 2019 16:21:35
Martial and Lingard or Neymar and Cavani - hmmm

I think PSG were significantly weaker than us on account of injuries, yet they dominated with inexperience, unfit and old time players.

You have to factor in PSG's injuries to make a comparison like this.

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01 Jan 2019 13:16:50
I really believe Sanchez will be like a new signing if we keep playing this style of fast paced, pressured, attacking football.

The prospect of Pogba, Martial, Rashford and then Sanchez in this form is very exciting.

I hope we buy a high quality RB this winter and maybe a midfield maestro of Verratti's calibre.

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Yeah he has looked very impressive (has have most that had been written off) .

Hopefully they all continue in this vain. As far as I'm concerned his performances didn't justify a team like Utd (like most of them), but the manager was obviously a major issue.

Looking forward to watching us play again.

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