21 Dec 2023 09:24:00
With the European Courts verdict this morning, I wonder what the implication are for football in general, and Manchester United. Will the Glazers still sell the club. Will they want more money? Will they not now sell? Will they announce a new round of bidding?
Interesting times.
Eds, what's your take on the rulings and its implications.

{Ed002's Note - It changes little for the "elite" sides who discuss this at least twice a year. It was always going to and will happen. There is no real impact on FIFA although there may be an end to the expanded Club World Cup but it means that UEFA will need to re-engage with "elite" sides and to figure out what to do with the Champions League if it happens. For me this was expected and puts those clubs back on track.}


1.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 10:56:03
It would take years to get off the ground so hopefully their pushing up daisies by then.

{Ed002's Note - You don't understand the situation.}


2.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 12:02:52
I personally want to see a super league, of the most elite teams going up against each other every week.


3.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 13:16:16
If it goes ahead I will, if United get involved, give up on football altogether.
My personal view is that it is a disgusting proposal.


4.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 13:26:54
Sooner the super league happens the better.
I'd welcome it with open arms.


5.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 16:15:29
So the proposal is for a midweek league with three divisons where top 8 go to knockout phase and with promotion and relegation all tiers.

Other than opposition from competitions losing power and control what is not to like about it?


6.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 16:53:53
I think you could kiss goodbye the two domestic cups, or at least to Premier league teams. They can't even fit the games in now or field second-string teams. At least it would encourage more squad depths.


7.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 17:43:34
do the clubs intend to have any independent governing body? Or do they want to govern themselves?

{Ed002's Note - The government not the clubs want an overseer.}


8.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 21:10:24
If it goes ahead, I'm done with utd and football. Be a final nail in coffin and pure greed wins. Feeling it will go ahead, both cups die and ill go and watch non league instead.


9.) 21 Dec 2023
21 Dec 2023 23:05:55
I don't understand the negativity towards it. I actually liked the original super league plan except the closed shop concept. Would you rather watch real madrid vs bayern or antwerp vs braga? Uefa are corrupt and have made a closed market and they have pretty much taken their idea for the new format.


10.) 22 Dec 2023
22 Dec 2023 04:36:12
Yeah but there's always the romantic ideal in football of David v Goileth, plus the jeopardy which comes from relegation and promotion.

Take away all that and football. loses another part of its soul.


11.) 22 Dec 2023
22 Dec 2023 06:48:08
So, Danny, how could Braga or Antwerp ever become contenders, if you take any chance away? Football was better before Champions League, teams like Steaua could win it, and now it is impossible.

Also, new format is so bad, only 2 teams drop from the first division, basically there will be very little changes every season, it will become boring. Maybe RM or Barcelona don't like playing against Antwerp or Braga, but do Antwerp and Braga, and their fans, like playing against those clubs? What about teams like Copenhagen and Galatasaray? What about PL? United (or any other team envolved in SL) would rather fight to secure to stay in the top division, than winning the PL (or rather than fighting to secure top 4, as top 4 will be irrelevant) .


12.) 22 Dec 2023
22 Dec 2023 07:58:00
The decision seems to have been based on the court ruling that Uefa and Fifa were abusing their power to prevent the clubs from exercising their right to free competition. This decision does not necessarily mean that a super league in the form originally proposed a couple of years ago will go ahead. There seems to be a lot of discussion regarding the method of qualification for the new tournament. Will it be based on performance or as of right, like in a US franchise system where even the crappiest teams are guaranteed a berth at the top table ad infinitum. It's great for the franchisees. Locked in profitability. League control over merchandising. Salary caps. Adaptation of the rules to allow for maximizing in game advertising. Who knows, maybe Todd Boehly will get his wish and have an exceedingly boring all star weekend with archaic concepts like cheerleaders in tight shorts while everyone fawns over these megastars.

Maybe younger folk and the global audience will be turned on by watching Europe's top clubs in constant action against each other, but for old traditionalists like me, the old English league rivalries are what the game is all about. But I'm not the future audience. Things change. Bah humbug.


13.) 22 Dec 2023
22 Dec 2023 11:03:17
If it comes to pass I will also be done with football, TBH, I'm heading that way anyway. It's pure greed and nothing t9 do with the sport. The Champions league is awful nowadays, pretty much the same teams qualify, and pretty much the same teams progress. Football lost its soul many years ago, it seems there is little hop3 of it ever being recovered.

Its not just football, look at boxing and golf, selling themselves to the highest bidder. I have no solutions, but where we are heading doesn't look good.