07 May 2024 22:28:10
I have a lot of time for Rene Meulensteen as a coach, very knowledgeable.
These are his comments
"It is really incomprehensible what is happening now. There is simply no progress whatsoever. You know as a new trainer you always have to deal with a selection that you have not put together yourself. I always say a trainer needs 18 months to get it right, to get on track. But now there is none of that optimism left. There is no playing style, club culture or philosophy. If you look at the statistics it doesn't make any sense. Manchester United had a goal difference of minus three. " Then when asked about ETH banning the press he said "That is really not smart. The media of course have the right to ask questions"
My opinion not Rene, managers spend ages telling everyone not to listen to the press so why ban them when their opinion doesn't matter, it tells the players it does matter and they will read and wonder if it's true. Doubt grows.
Scholes and now Rene.
1.) 07 May 2024
07 May 2024 23:10:24
Apparently Jose wants the job if the press are to be believed …. I mean I can’t see it happening in a million years, but I quite liked him at Utd….
2.) 08 May 2024
07 May 2024 23:33:19
There are a lot of highly qualified and respected people all saying the same thing.
Regardless of injuries we should be playing better and with more heart. We are not adapting to the situation well and using the injuries as an excuse.
It has been said 1000’s of times. There are managers out there that would get a better tune out of this team. There are teams out there with worse players (on paper) who have shown us a clean pair of heels.
Something is wrong. Do I know who or where? Hell no! But there are people who do and need to get this ridiculous situation under control quickly.
3.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 01:18:54
Stop it, Eric ?.
4.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 03:43:31
I’d prefer Jose to Ten Haag.
As Ten Haag apologists love to point out, it’s difficult for a manager to succeed without a proper structure in place above them. Despite this, Jose won us a European trophy and finished second in the league (two things that by his own admission, Ten Haag will not be able to achieve next season) . Image what he could do if properly supported.
5.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 05:34:53
might as well read Ashley Youngs take on Jose too. Too defensive minded and the players did not like his tactics and some did not put in all the effort. Mourinho is not a good choice imo.
6.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 07:07:04
This isn’t the first time that Rene Meulensteen has come out with something to say at this stage of the cycle. He’s a hindsight genius trying to stay relevant.
7.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 07:09:53
It was at the home game v Seville, with Jose in charge, that I decided not to come back to OT until he’s gone.
Jose played the worse football I’ve ever seen at Old Trafford. I rank it lower than anything we’ve seen recently, or even under Ole.
8.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 07:12:26
Player power is the problem and has been for quite some time.
They can down tools and stop trying and just sit back, get paid and wait until the manager gets sacked.
9.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 08:49:24
But my question is, why under different managers and different players for the last decade plus, has our club seem to impacted the most by players downing tools, being tactically inept, playing poor football? What is it about our whole culture that’s so wrong?
Would love to hear some opinion on that from posters and Eds alike.
10.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 09:22:22
I’d take Jose back in a heartbeat, didn’t want him to leave last time.
11.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 10:04:52
Moyes is free too.
12.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 11:08:25
Rene, this brilliant coach, what's he at these days? Take no notice.
Worse thing that happened to ETH was how well he did last year.
This club is a cesspit.
13.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 11:19:55
It will be a lot better when eth is gone thankfully angel.
You do know he is going and won't be manager next season so then the hope can return.
14.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 12:21:43
Angel
Are you also going to say Scholes is wrong too?
15.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 13:20:03
I was disappointed that Jose didn’t make more of an effort to adapt his style of play to better fit the attacking ethos of the club, but there will still plenty of entertaining games during his tenure. It’s a similar story with Ole, really. Not a great fit, but still a hell of a lot better than Ten Haag will ever be. And yeah, with a better structure, I dare say that either could get us competing again, even if there are better candidates out there.
16.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 13:41:51
I agree on Jose.
I was disappointed he didn't embrace uniteds traditions more than he did redseven.
But he should also have resigned (I think he did mentally) the day the window shut and they kept pogba and martial and Shaw against his wishes. ( but I can totally understand him waiting for his big pay off)
I think he has been by far our best manager since fergie.
We probably got him just past his best, he has achieved very little since he left here either at spurs and roma.
Not sure he has 1 more top job in him at club level. If I was the FA I'd be looking to make him England Manager.
17.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 14:12:37
Sadly, Ken, I think you may be right. The game has moved on quite a bit since his glory days, but his tactics remain stuck in the past.
Part of me would love to see him get another shot at the big time just to see if he has it in to adapt, and I wouldn’t be against him being given that shot with us (as per my last post, I’d take just about anybody over Ten Haag) . Realistically, though, I expect he’ll probably end up in the Saudi league rather than at another big club.
Would love to see him take the England job. His football may be negative at times, but unlike Southgate, he at least knows how to win trophies.
18.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 14:30:36
Mourinho was a master of the dark arts. I always remember him gouging the eye of an opposition assistant manager whilst at Madrid more than anything. Not the kind of style I'd like at my team. But hey when it works why not lol. Just don't think he's got it in him any more.
19.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 16:19:38
Agree spenno. I think an intl team would benefit greatly from his know how and experience.
But the rigours of everyday with this generation are too much now I think.
20.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 18:14:51
Scholes is almost always correct isn't he redman? What a pundit haha.
21.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 18:16:22
You got insight on that ken yeah? ?
Lads have fully lost the plot on here. Every post ken ?.
22.) 08 May 2024
08 May 2024 19:30:31
Was Jose good? 6th and 2nd in his two full seasons, Ole managed 3rd and 2nd in his two full seasons.
Did Jose embrace the club and our traditions? Did he play offensive/ entertaining football? No.
Did he work to develop our youth players? No.