17 May 2023 08:54:04
The undignified sale of Manchester United epitomises 20 years of Glazer arrogance, indifference and conceit for a Club they should never have been allowed to buy.

This sale process has been specifically designed to generate a bidding war for the sole per purpose of lining the Glazer pockets.

Not one thought has been given to what might be in the best interests of the Club, it's players, staff and most importantly the fans.

This sale mirrors almost every Glazer transaction, an excruciating long, draw out negotiation, played out through the media, that saps the energy and tests the patience of even the most avid supporters.

Perhaps the Glazers greatest power is the apathy and disengagement they create as they drag the life out of every interaction. They are the definition of parasites that have infected the very soul of the Club. Fed by money and greed, sustained by apathy and frustration this must now be the end.

1.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 09:08:28
Agree 1000%. Just want them GONE!

2.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 09:29:15
Spot on DLIB. I'd add to that that the timing and delayed tactics are to weaponise the clubs transfer window to get a higher price.

"If you want to be in charge to affect the summer window, pay a premium to get the deal done"

They have zero interest in doing anything beneficial for the club. Reports always state how Joel Glazer loves the club and wants to remain as owner. If this is how they treat something they love, I'd hate to see how they'd treat the club if they didn't care.

I initially wasn't a fan of Rathcliffes bid, but maybe he's just propsing the only bid that gets him control. We'll have to wait and see though, let's just hope they don't pull the plug this late in the game.

3.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 09:59:03
Its a shame and there needs to be some guardrails set for all PL clubs going forward in terms of a sale some conditions for the incoming owners to meet, where you don't ever again glazer type owners coming in.

I think the Chelsea sale was a lot more structured with very clear guidelines for the incoming owner.

It goes against what's good for the game, the fans, legacy of clubs if you allow PE and hedge funds come in who look to buy and in essence flip these things for max profit at the expense of what best for the club in many instances. What a shamble.

4.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 10:23:51
Mumbles - it’s beggars belief. You’d have thought if they really wanted to stay they’d have moved forward with SJR proposal quickly and allowed him a decent shot at the summer window to build on a solid season under EtH. Surely if they want to grow their investment then success on the pitch is where is all starts.

They could easily go back to SJR and now demand a place on the board or more power with the prospect of Qatar purportedly increasing their bid handing the Glazers more negotiating power with SJR.

I read a interesting article in the New York Times comparing the sale of the Washington Commanders v Manchester United and which was the better financial investment.

In the NFL there is a salary cap and draft system. There is no promotion or relegation, no champions league so it’s still relatively straightforward to make money despite the success of the team.

I think that’s the one thing the Glazers have never really understand about football. Their ability to generate revenue and sponsorship is intrinsically linked to the success of the team. I know Ed Woodward famously stated this wasn’t actually the case which just illustrates this arrogance and miscalculation.

I think everyone gets just so bored and frustrated with the delay and constant links, supporters feel powerless and that leads to apathy and disengagement where the Glazers thrive.

They want to divide opinion and create tension in the fan base as it keeps them in power.

They are bad for the Club and we must insist on a full sale.

My plea to SJR is stop this nonsense with the Glazers, if you can afford the Club then buy it and tell us what you intend to do with the debt, the stadium, training facilities, the team and how you intend to return the Club back to the top of English football. Your silence is deafening.

5.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 12:19:03
Exactly DLIB, getting into bed with the glazers is a joke and is dragging the whole thing out. If it is the only way he can get the club, then he can't afford it and should drop out. Simple. Over paying for half is a ridiculous solution.

6.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 12:50:34
So looks like a lot of people would rather have the glazers in control of the club potentially with a equity firm propping them up.

For me that sounds like a much worse situation than SJR having control with an option to buy out the glazers in 2-3 years, but each to their own.

7.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 13:53:04
Qatar must win or we face more years of discord and recriminations, protests against the Glazers and Ratcliffe.

The Glazers have no interest in the club, just money. When they bought the club it was said it was for asset growth. They have been able to do that and take many millions out as well.

Now, If only they would just give the club a clean break, a chance to rebuild from the mess, let us have Qatar with no debt, then we can move forward. Instead they don’t care, will use the dwindling time to the transfers as a negotiating tool to squeeze every last cent.

To think I was vilified on here at time in the last 13 years when flagging what the Glazers were and have done, now you can all see.

Clean break from all Glazers is a must.

8.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 14:32:56
DBrooks - Let’s be clear lots of us don’t want the Glazers in involved full stop.

Your scaremongering nonsense about investment groups is ridiculous.

You’ve posted on here numerous times preaching to everyone that will listen, that this is not a choice, the fans have no power and the Glazers will do as they please, like you’re some kind of authority on the subject.

Well if the Glazers take on investment from a hedge fund we’ll all be appalled and call them out from what they are!

It’s not our choice remember and if your suggesting that SJR offers an alternative to hedge funds then Qatar offers an alternative to both. You can’t have your cake and eat it.

If you’re content with SJR propping up the Glazers based on some fantasy that he can compete with City, whilst only owing half of the club, keeping the Glazers involved, maintaining all their debt and also investing in the stadium, training facilities and infrastructure then that’s your prerogative but many of us can see the massive problems with that scenario and it’s not just limited to keeping the Glazers involved.

If SJR has a plan then we don’t know it and keeping the Glazers involved is not a good start.

9.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 14:45:47
I don’t know why you are all winging. Its been 5 or so months so far, usually business deals like this can take 18 months to complete.

Idiots think the changing of hands of a sophisticated deal can be done like a football transfer ??.

All the click bait nonsense people lap up doesn’t help. But they stated their intention to sell up. Now wait. It won’t be done by this summer so start throwing your toys around now before you get even more disappointed.

10.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 15:08:09
Dlib I'm trying to get people to stop being daft.

Yes have your favourite of the bids but don't slag the other because you want yours to win both SJR and the Qatar bids are better than the glazers being in control.

Also in what world is someone else having control of something propping them up they would just be normal shareholders. We also have no idea about what extras SJR will add as he's not briefed anything because telling the glazers you've got 5bn for them and 4bn for other stuff would be daft don't you think?

11.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 20:19:58
DBrooks

It’s not being daft to prefer one bid to the other, where one includes the leeches who have bled the club dry. I will “slag off” as you put it, any bid and in particular Ratcliffe’s which retains Glazer involvement. I could not care less what extras/ softeners SJR offers when he includes the Glazers, not even just 0.1%. They must go, 100% and no involvement at all, never darken our door again. SJR should hang his head in shame even considering their involvement.

Ordinary shareholders? Seriously, how can you even consider that sentiment?

12.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 20:50:45
Owning 20% of a major organisation certainly doesn't categorize you as an "ordinary shareholder".

13.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 21:22:47
I don't want them in but I'd much rather they had 20% with no control than whatever % and be in charge wouldn't you?

I don't have a preference on any bid I'd prefer them gone completely but accept that might not be possible which will be the case if they accept SJRs bid.

And they would be ordinary shareholders can you name anyone who owns any of the 31% that the glazers don't currently own? They would have the same say these people currently do against the glazers.

I've never said don't have a preference my argument is the calling of names and acting like SJR is a poor business man a glazer stooge or a rat are pathetic when he's such an experienced successful business man, its also a bad look on us as fans.

14.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 22:30:18
DBrooks

He would be ratting on the fans by retaining the Glazers even if only 0.0001%

Straightforward position, no Glazers whatsoever, nothing else is acceptable.

15.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 22:52:43
Ok redman and what if Qatar's offer for a full sale just inst enough and SJRs bid for full control isn't?

Would you rather keep the glazers than have SJR in control and them as none entities? because, "Full Sale Only"?

16.) 17 May 2023
17 May 2023 23:06:54
People forget one big thing. Although they undoubtedly took huge amounts out of the club and raised it's debt they have also presided over half a billion pounds or more on transfers. Had our previous managers bought wisely maybe we would be a lot quieter and happier. I don't blame the Glazers for so much of the rubbish we have had to watch. The managers and directors should have done a far far better job.

17.) 18 May 2023
18 May 2023 02:16:05
Who selects the management team Salford? Who signs off on every transfer decision and has been blamed for being too slow and missing players and also refusing to sanction the sale of his favourite (Martial) .

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

Cant actual believe how many "The glazers aren't so bad" posts I am reading these days.

And yes Brooks, Radcliff is enabling the glazers to have a stay option. They spent 2 years trying to get extra funding and were seemingly failing because the numbers just dint add up. They are not successful, billions needed for stadium, infrastructure, playing staff AND to clear the debt they saddled us within world of high interest rates.

Cant wait till they are gone and we can turn the page.

18.) 18 May 2023
18 May 2023 08:27:31
I think it is taking this long to decide which bid to go with because the 6 Glazer siblings do not agree on which bid to accept.

Please correct me if I'm miles off and up the wrong tree but I would have thought that the 6 would have to have some form of agreement on which bid they choose?

Most business people would take the highest offer at the time, which is the Qatar bid but with the SJR bid, there would be more money over a longer period i. e. several years, if what we hear is true!

19.) 18 May 2023
18 May 2023 10:20:38
The most important thing for the club is to have the Glazers have no say in the management of the club.

If the Glazers decide to go with SJR and we get a proper structure and professional people running the club and eth gets backed in terms of his vision for the team. I am 100% sure we will win everything again with this guy, that's good enough for me.

Watched city last night and they were unbelievably good but RM were very poor and their front 3 did no defensive work whilst city was hammering them and many PL teams give city a better game than what I was seeing.

Call me crazy if eth gets backed we are not far off. 2 seasons I reckon we win the league and next year we will be close.

City main trust and what creates havoc for teams are De Bruyne, Silva and Gundogan. All aging btw and talk of some maybe leaving.

what looks invincible atm can change very quickly. Just spending money does not get you a replacement for de Bruyne and Silva. We can relate to that.

20.) 18 May 2023
18 May 2023 18:59:34
Ahmad

The most important thing is to not have the leeches take one solitary cent more out of the club. It’s not good enough to say they glazers have “no say”. How can anyone accept the money from 1000 season ticket holders will seep out to them in dividends. The idea sickens me and should any United fan not on the glazer payroll.

21.) 18 May 2023
18 May 2023 21:10:12
redman

in an ideal world they are completely gone. It sometimes does not work that way and you accept the less than ideal solution which something that would be substantially better for the club, assuming the qataris don't make a mess if they got full control.

I know that part of the world, the uae and saudis are very sophisticate shops especially uae, qatar is a village and not the brightest boys.

22.) 19 May 2023
19 May 2023 07:47:36
Ahmad

No most fans will not “accept” the “less than ideal” and there will be ongoing protests tearing the club apart.

23.) 19 May 2023
19 May 2023 15:04:00
Redman

Fans will not protest if the club starts winning major trophies again whether glazers are completely out or partially out. The only time fans vent their anger at owners is when their team underachieves and you have to lay the blame somewhere.

If the qataris win it and the team does what it has been doing for the last 10 years they will be protesting against the qataris lol

The problem with United is when you have sat at the top of the mountain for so long the last 10 years are hard to swallow.

Look at newcastle and their fans they were just delighted to survive relegation 18 months ago, atm everything is gravy and lala land stuff for them.

24.) 20 May 2023
20 May 2023 10:39:07
ahmad

You clearly do not have any comprehension or understanding by the way you have given the Glazer corporate spiel that it is just about underachievement.