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18 Oct 2024 10:38:41
Hi ed002
Hope all is well. Are united interested in Rios from Palmeras and do you see us making a move for another midfielder in the jan window,
{Ed002's Note - Richard Rios (CM/DM) Wolves, Liverpool, West Ham and Arsenal sent scouts to the Palmeiras game against Flamengo and all were apparently impressed by the youngster playing in CM. Manchester United and Leicester interest has likely gone. Real Sociedad considered him a Zubimendi replacement but stepped away because of the price. A wildcard would be Real Madrid, Milan, Barcelona, Chelsea/Strasbourg or possibly PSG. Interest of Getafe and Everton will go nowhere. €100M release clause and a long contract to fend off European clubs but financially they could be forced to accept less.
I expect a couple of departures from and an addition to midfield in January.}
1.) 18 Oct 2024 13:59:36
Hi Ed I hipe your alright.
Can you tell us the targets for january please?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM/DM) Barcelona will look for a new contract with reduced wages else he will be sold with possible interest remaining from Manchester United. PSG have spoken with his agent and additionally his agent has raised his availability with Chelsea whist discussing another player but they have no interest in him.}
2.) 18 Oct 2024 14:00:11
Also couls you tell us which players are likely to leave in January?
{Ed002's Note - Casemiro (DM) Manchester United would be willing to let him leave but will take a huge loss. Michael Emenalo spoke of him as one option for Saudi clubs but will be concerned about persistent injuries but MU will be hoping for a call or an offer from perhaps Turkey or Brazil.
Christian Eriksen (AM) The player has a contract until 2025 but will be allowed to leave in January. Interest of Real Betis in a loan was rejected as the club wanted a sale. Anderlecht or Ajax may take him else MLS or Middle East beckons.}
3.) 18 Oct 2024 16:18:52
Dr Jong will be awesome for us and will transform the midfield! Best news!
4.) 18 Oct 2024 19:37:55
De Jong is a great player, but I’d like to see us steer clear of Ten Haag’s targets from here on out. He’ll be gone by the start of next season (hopefully, a lot sooner), so it seems foolish to waste anymore money on players to fit whatever his system is.
5.) 18 Oct 2024 23:17:38
Redseven
So FDJ is a great player but because eth wants him you don't want him. okay then that makes a lot of sense.
6.) 19 Oct 2024 03:14:20
Ahmad. Yes. Not signing a player to play a certain “style” of football when we almost certainly won’t be playing that “style” of football in nine months makes a lot of sense.
I take it from your response that you’d rather we drop another 500m on Ten Haag targets in January just so the man can further prove how utterly out of his depth he is? I guess if he gets us relegated, we might actually finish higher than eighth next season.
{Ed004's Note - I think the main reason in getting the likes of Ashworth, Wilcox etc is that they should be shaping our squad for a certain style of play regardless of who the manager is. Last summer was not the correct time to judge their signings with Ashworth only joining 1 July etc but going forward I would hope our record in the market is a lot stronger.}
7.) 19 Oct 2024 09:05:40
Redseven
A midfielder who has an excellent first touch and turn who advances the ball, intelligent and good passer and a good engine on him can play for most good teams.
Don't muddy the waters. If he is healthy and if we genuinely want him and can be secured by people who are a lot more qualified than me and you, I am happy to go with it.
8.) 19 Oct 2024 20:36:41
Cas out and de Jong in would make be a very effective window.
9.) 20 Oct 2024 23:44:34
Given eriksens form, i'd hope he stays this year.
05 Aug 2024 20:23:59
Ornstein saying we are looking at other options to ugarte. 60 mill ask by psg.
1.) 05 Aug 2024 20:34:59
Amrabat it is.
2.) 05 Aug 2024 20:42:32
We let that deal run for a long time before backing out. We really, really need a new 6. I've not seen the article were there any suggestions of alternatives?
At this rate we'll have the same midfield as last season. Crazy!
3.) 05 Aug 2024 21:01:55
Or F De Jong?
4.) 05 Aug 2024 21:10:50
More convinced than ever it’s Amrabat coming.
5.) 05 Aug 2024 21:17:20
glad we are taking a position and not getting skinned. I think the french international guy from Monaco might be a target, we tried to get him on loan last summer. name escapes me but he has one year left and refusing to sign a new contract.
6.) 05 Aug 2024 21:18:19
The price PSG is asking is crazy.
I think they will lower their expectations, or they risk being stuck with him.
We do need new players, but we also need to show that we won't be robbed as we used to be. It will be a long process.
7.) 05 Aug 2024 21:40:17
Our midfield options are eriksen, Casemiro, mctominay, kobbie, Bruno and mount…. we are screwed. Awful other than kobbie and Bruno, mount no idea where he plays and the others are woeful. Teams running free at our back 4 again next season.
8.) 05 Aug 2024 22:05:32
Seen the Spanish guy Zubimendi mentioned as a possible alternative. But think his price is around the same as Ugarte.
9.) 05 Aug 2024 22:06:56
Andre from fluminense seemed likely to Fulham but seems like that may not happen, Richard Rios from palmeiras but we'd have to over pay a little on wages and fee to get work permit, if it was me I'd look at Zubimendi we need a passer through midfield to stop Bruno having to drop deep.
10.) 05 Aug 2024 22:52:50
Ahmad, you mean Youssouf Fofana, seemingly Monaco looking for approx 35m euros for him.
Have to say think that Zubimendi would be good shout, very good player and although similar price to Ugarte he offers more offensively, he's more of a Rodri type player.
Issue is whether he would want to leave Spain and come to us.
11.) 06 Aug 2024 01:12:15
I predict we will sign Ugarte for ten mill less than they want in the coming weeks. Walking away is just a tactic. I have nothing but hope to base this on but glad we are not just paying whatever clubs want anymore.
12.) 06 Aug 2024 08:40:48
RWWD its the correct position. We have had our pants pulled down, too many time.
Same goes for De Ligt.
13.) 06 Aug 2024 17:42:03
You could well be right RWWD, after everything that SJR has said about paying excessive fees, he has to follow this through in his first transfer window in charge.
14.) 07 Aug 2024 12:05:06
We are re-living the days of Fergie saying there is no value in the market.
11 Jul 2024 16:00:06
Romano says we have signed Zirksee. 5 years with option for additional year.
1.) 11 Jul 2024 17:44:55
And D VdB also leaving, so one dutch out one Dutch in.
MDL will prob be next.
2.) 11 Jul 2024 19:10:28
Nice to get our no1 target in that position. Getting him instead of Milan is a nice coup too.
14 Jun 2024 16:41:08
Ornstein reporting united have made an opening bid of 35 million for branthwaite. sanity rules i guess, starting to really like ineos.
1.) 14 Jun 2024 17:09:41
First offer always was going to be low
everton need the money by the end of the month
Will prob end at 40-45 plus 5-10 in addons
But young potential signings is what we should be doing build a young team.
2.) 14 Jun 2024 18:20:29
Glad we’re not going in with a ridiculous opening offer, but am half expecting one of the other big clubs to do so. Can’t say I’d mind too much if they did.
3.) 14 Jun 2024 18:23:12
And we have lift off! Nice. Expect a swift rejection but that’s part of the game.
4.) 15 Jun 2024 07:45:38
Rejected but frames where we think the valuation is for him and glad to see us have some discipline. Don't hear anyone else in for him given so many clubs are looking for cb's.
I expect us to get something done in the low 40's or move on to someone else if we are egtting stretched higher. I think ed002 mentioned our priority list of cb's a while ago and he was 4th or 5th choice on the list the rest were more expensive.
{Ed025's Note - it will take over £60m to get JB ahmad, which is dirt cheap considering you paid £80m for slab head and big prices for the other time wasters who are nowhere near as good as Jarrad mate..
5.) 15 Jun 2024 08:13:08
Yeah Ed but that’s because we overpaid for those player, glad we aren’t just paying up because Everton want and we are incompetent for once. We know Everton need to sell and while it’s probably lower than JB valuation it’s a good starting point and I’d say £50m plus add ons be about right for potential.
{Ed025's Note - i think its a bit of a low ball offer with an initial bid reportedly being £35m WRD, he has a 4 year deal with us and i think we should keep him rather than sell him for a pittance mate, but it seems like he wants to go so i suppose a deal will be struck somewhere but if it was up to me the bidding would start at £60m, he will turn out to be a stellar player and FEC i expect..
6.) 15 Jun 2024 08:28:37
Doubt it will be much below £70m.
{Ed025's Note - i agree spenno..
7.) 15 Jun 2024 08:19:00
Ed025. That we paid up for slab head doesn’t follow that we should do the same for other players now. The ethos of the club in that respect is hopefully changing dramatically and what we value a player at and pay will, again, hopefully, be way more realistic.
{Ed025's Note - the likes of Utd and other big clubs will always have to pay a premium Fizz, everyone puts at least 25% on their price when the big boys come a calling thats just the way it is mate..
8.) 15 Jun 2024 09:20:24
United are just chancing their luck off the back of Everton’s financial circumstance I guess. This summer will be about United working in the transfer market and trying to undo poor performance over the past how ever many windows. Everton know they can state £70M because previously United have paid those prices. £55/ £60M with add ons up to £70M would probably be fair in this market for a player who we could get 10 years out of.
9.) 15 Jun 2024 10:35:11
ED025, Everton need to sell, so unless they can sell other players instead of JB before 30th June, then I think Utd might actually get him for £50 million plus add ons.
{Ed025's Note - hopefully other bids will come in and drive the price up MH, but i suppose £50m + add on,s is in the ball park mate..
10.) 15 Jun 2024 11:11:33
I don't think this new management structure is into going in the area people are talking about or even value him at those numbers. look at Ashworth case.
If we go to 50 mill plus add ons that's 60 mill. No one else will come in for him at those numbers. Still say low 40's plus add ons then we walk away.
60 mill is leny yoro zip code. easy choice to make if we are spending that kind of money and if the player is on board to coming.
11.) 15 Jun 2024 15:10:54
ED025,
I agree, a deal like that would probably suit both parties aswell.
{Ed025's Note - he is certainly open to it MH, and i expect it will happen mate..
12.) 16 Jun 2024 11:05:25
There will be wiggle room on the price, it'll be more than United would ideally like to pay, but less than Everton want. That's the way negotiations work.
I expect we'll start to see prices come down a little over the next couple of seasons.
Lots of clubs have been hit by the pandemic and now have FFP/ PSR issues because of the loss of revenue during that time.
Simply put clubs just have less to spend.
Everton are in a pinch and need money before June 30th, yet very few teams can afford to spend before then due to their own PSR issues and balancing the books.
That means Everton either accept a lower offer than might otherwise be expected, or they don't make raise the money needed and probably end up with another points deduction.
United are in a similar boat, we can't afford to spend too much before June 30th. While we might be able to pay a bigger fee afterwards, that won't be of any use to Everton at that point.
If United are the only team coming in for any Everton players before June 30th then it really puts them up against the wall and United will probably get Branthwaite for a much lower fee because of that. The other thing to factor in is that all of the fee from Branthwaite will be considered profit. Onana is the other player often linked with being sold to raise funds. Yet because he was bought for a few that could reach 33m there will still be a certain amount of his fee to be amortised meaning 15-20m of what they sell him for won't count as profit and therefore doesn't help them with PSR. They'd need 50-60m up front for Onana to solve the PSR issue compared to 35-40m for Branthwaite. The reality is that there probably isn't anyone who'll be able or willing to pay the amount they would need for a player like Onana to satisfy the PSR requirements.
From what I gather Everton need between 35-40m in their account before June 30th.
That will be why United's reported opening offer is around that figure. Also United can't really afford to pay much more than that before the end of June either.
I'd expect there to be some compromise, where United pay 35-40m upfront (whatever Everton need for PSR), then there to be some add-ons payable at a later date depending on certain criteria being met. Probably with around half the add-ons being fairly easy to meet (number of games etc) and the other half being harder (linked to club success) .
I'd imagine the total package might be worth around 60m if all add-ons are met, with United realistically probably paying 50-55m when all is said and done.
It'll save Everton from further PSR sanctions, while the larger figure will be reported to help them save face. Yet it'll still be less than they want and most Everton fans will rightly feel a little bitter about it.
As a United fan I'm not going to lose any sleep over the club taking advantage of another clubs situation. After all many clubs have ripped us off when selling players to us and have taken advantage when buying players.
Just looking at Everton for example they charged us more for Rooney than the price they agreed with Newcastle, pushed us with Fellaini to get a premium deal, while they also got cut price deals for players like Saha, Howard, Phil Neville, Gibson, Cleverley and most recently James Garner.
Even if we get Branthwaite for 20m less than current market value, Everton will still be the side that has had the better of the transfer dealings overall between the clubs over the past 20 years.
However, I can still sympathise with the Everton fans who'll be reeling at losing their most promising player and the club won't even be able to take advantage of it or use the money to buy a replacement. Much like ourselves under the Glazers we had to suffer for the incompetence of our owners, Everton fans are suffering the same right now. So I can easily sympathise with them over that.
I just hope that they have the decency to see past the likely lower fee and they give Branthwaite a fair reception when he plays against them and not to take out the situation the club are in on the player. He's been a good player for them, given his all and his sale will probably play a big part in helping the club get some financial stability and hopefully avoid more points deductions next season.
07 Jun 2024 13:42:34
All kinds of reports about greenwood going to Juve. He will do very well there if true and great move for him to a massive club. Hope we get good value for him.
1.) 07 Jun 2024 13:52:02
Loan was a good decision by the hierarchy last summer, probably best to get this situation over and done with this summer for final, whatever the club does in this situation they will be criticised.
2.) 07 Jun 2024 14:47:18
Its an all around good outcome. let the guy get on with his life and his football and hopefully we get decent value. He is a tremendous talent. Better than all our current forwards and wingers imo. Good luck to him.
3.) 07 Jun 2024 17:20:39
Tremendous talent Ahmad, trash person. Hope he falls flat on his face ??.
4.) 07 Jun 2024 17:57:51
Agree with all of the above.
At the time Greenwood was just breaking through I thought we were set for 10 years with the trio of Rashford / Martial / Greenwood. For very different reasons it hasn't worked out.
I wish him the best and hope he and his partner are happy going forward.
5.) 07 Jun 2024 19:11:12
I am quite happy to see him achieve some form of redemption. I don't generally expect high moral character from teenagers who have too much money and have come from poor backgrounds.
6.) 07 Jun 2024 21:02:04
Two years ago we had two stellar English strikers in Rashy and Greenwood. A shame what’s happened to both in terms of Utd but Greenwood can forge a very successful career away from the glare of the English press elsewhere. Might even get to a point where the next English manager/ potter/ poch has to have a think.
7.) 07 Jun 2024 21:14:58
Doesn’t deserve any redemption and he background was fine noting to do with how he grew up
Guys vile and doesn’t deserve a move to any big club.
{Ed025's Note - im with you Bolger..
8.) 07 Jun 2024 22:16:12
I don't think he gets near the England setup under any manager, no matter how he plays. MEngland so not need that kind of negative publicity.
9.) 08 Jun 2024 08:20:17
He screwed up the opportunity to become a club legend but we will never truly know all the facts to be fair. Best for him to move, hopefully a decent fee for us and a sell on clause just to be wise.
10.) 08 Jun 2024 15:17:27
To say the morality is low linked to poor background? Shawthing?
11.) 08 Jun 2024 15:23:05
Really good player will do well wherever he goes. I wish him every success. England's loss which is always nice?.
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02 Dec 2024 05:00:40
now we get into a really tough stretch of games that we need to pick up points. We have
Arsenal away
Forrest at home
City away
Spurs away
Bournemouth home
Wolves away
NC at home
Liverpool Away
Its unfortunate that RA will be playing this hectic schedule without really getting a lot of time with this squad. I suspect our season will depend on how well we do from these games.
If we can lose only 2 from these games I think we have done very well.
1.) 02 Dec 2024 07:18:15
At the same time it will show his credentials and ability to adjust on the fly. I personally think it’s a good run of games as it will truely show where we are and can realistically expect to be. Would rather that than a false dawn after playing bottom teams.
2.) 02 Dec 2024 08:53:20
1 game at a time that's what the manager says.
3.) 02 Dec 2024 09:12:49
This period will really show if the players listen to what RA wants and if their mentality is stronger. Weaknesses will be exposed and a lot may depend on how many injuries/ suspensions the squad gets.
4.) 02 Dec 2024 09:18:02
Looking at how he has rotated the team so far I think he will utilise the whole squad during this period. Some players will get more minutes as they have taken to Amorims methods better but by the Liverpool game everyone will have had a chance to impress (I think we may see some of the younger players as well) .
Whilst the results may be up and down over this period it will mean that going into the January window the club will know what if any additions they need.
5.) 02 Dec 2024 11:19:07
Some players returning to form and a manager with a clear style and idea. I think we will do alright in the next few games.
6.) 02 Dec 2024 12:01:08
I'm feeling confident.
RA is really getting a tune out of the players expected to provide a goal return and that massive step shouldn't be overlooked.
In 3 games under RA, Rashford's got 3, Hojlund's got 2, Zirkzee 2 and Garnacho 1.
Of those 4, only Garnacho (2) returned goals from the 4 games under Ruud.
From ten Hag's 13 games this season, Rashford got 4, Hojlund got 2, Zirkzee 1 and Garnacho 5.
Under RA so far, we average 2.66 goals per game.
Under Ruud - 2.75.
Under ten Hag this season - 1.46.
Imo, the reason our strikers failed under ten Hag is clear - the wide attackers he preferred simply didn't put in enough work for the central striker. Now, if we use Rashford as an example being played as one of the tens, there's no room in the RA system for an attacker to hide.
We will need to see rotation between Hojlund, Zirkzee and Rashford up top, just as we'll need to see the same between Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho and Mount as the 10s.
Arsenal will be the first real acid test for how well the players respond to high-level pressure in the RA system.
I think we'll see Shaw at LCB trying to prevent Dalot getting skinned by Saka too badly, we should surely see Casemiro next to Ugarte, we might even see Zirkzee and Rashford keep their places.
While we'll be weak on our left flank, Arsenal might also be rather weak on their left if Calafiori doesn't make it - the game could easily be won by whoever of Saka and Amad performs best.
Moving forward, we have enough players to be rotated sensibly.
Before the turn of the year there are 18 PL points available to us, I'd expect the objective to be a return of 12 minimum.
If we could get 12 points from the games against Forest, Bournemouth, Wolves and Newcastle, we could be in the top 6 come January.
Under ten Hag this season, we were all desperate to feel some positivity, something to get our inner ids feeling the Panini/ Subbuteo feels, get us enthused - but we felt flat, to me the games felt like stale reenactments with little more oompf than a gaggle of Larpers.
Under Ruud, and now under RA, the positivity has returned, the workrate has returned, the fight, the spirit, the small doses of that special something which makes a fan feel the game.
Under RA, we now see the application of an identity, a footballing structure that has purpose. The positivity is growing amongst the players within this new performance culture, we need to reflect the upturn in application from them by showing our appreciation and support while also being positive.
Obviously, we could stink the house out throughout this run, but I'm feeling confident - I'm even feeling confident about our visit to them drawn to the Asda, maybe we can give them a Rollback.
7.) 02 Dec 2024 20:33:37
Stats are meaningless after 3 games against relegation candidates and a Norwegian team on level with a league 1 team. Arsenal and the upcoming fixures will be a better reflection.
8.) 02 Dec 2024 21:12:22
Arsenal are a class above anyone we have faced recently. Will be a hard match and realistically we are not close to their level. They have had a few years to perfect their patterns of play. Their squad is settled and players know their roles and have built partnerships all over the field.
Its entirely possible Utd surprise us all but more likely that they win easily.
9.) 03 Dec 2024 00:04:48
Math troll,
Bodo/ Glimt are a decent side doing well in the EL and are not on league 1 level, what a pathetic thing to say. No surprise though I guess, all of your posts are the same, assume you’re an opposition fan.
10.) 03 Dec 2024 01:09:45
And now arsenal away in the cup! Time to see what this formation is all about, quite the run of games ?.
11.) 03 Dec 2024 06:49:50
just saw that what a lousy draw. Its a bit of baptism of fire. On a positive note this is the healthiest the squad has been in years.
12.) 03 Dec 2024 09:19:38
Would prefer beat good teams rather than fodder to get to a final.
13.) 03 Dec 2024 11:47:03
Math
Oh dear, you strike again. Perhaps you should rename yourself GOTCHA.
The stats I mentioned are respective of goalscoring, not the opposition or what quality you and your soapbox believe applies to 'lesser' teams.
The first batch of stats are reflective of how well the squad's 'goalscorers' are doing compared to before. The next batch simply reflect the obvious. Then I opined - is that not what we're on here for?
Since you like to bin off stats so readily, I'll remind you of the last time United actually played a real League One side - Barnsley at home in the Carabao Cup in September, 7-0 win.
7-0 and 3-2 - yes, they're very similar scorelines, aren't they?
14.) 03 Dec 2024 15:11:51
Why does Math not post anything on your own club page? Or do you use a different login?
15.) 04 Dec 2024 09:28:50
I think this run of games will be perfect.
It's a good mix of harder and easier games, which should help the players adapt to the new system. Easier games will let the players focus on the system more, and harder games will really test the players and expose flaws to work on in training. We will drop some points, but if it helps get players into the flow of the system more quickly, it's worth it.
The main thing IMO is to get us ready for January. If the players can get more used to the system, without dropping too many points, then in January we can hopefully get in a lwb and be ready to kick on from there.
03 Nov 2024 06:24:55
Anyone following the under 18s. they are smashing teams for fun and the scores are so crazy. I hope there is a proper plan for this team in terms of loans and first team debuts. it can't be fluke as they are now at this for 2 years.
Each week there seems to be different guys too and not just one or two players. If they can make the transition to senior football successfully there is a few hundred million of talent sitting there.
1.) 03 Nov 2024 07:57:09
There's obviously obi Martin but the name being talked about most and I'm sure red man has mentioned him before is ibragimov.
2.) 03 Nov 2024 08:19:13
Ibramigov will be goood he has tht hardworking aura about him.
3.) 03 Nov 2024 09:03:34
Wiggy
Yes I did write about him on here a year or so ago. One of two brothers at the club if I recall correctly and the third brother is a notable MMA fighter.
There is another youngster who is being talked about as being potentially outstanding and that is JJ Gabriel, Joseph Gabriel, who at 14 is known as Kid Messi. That good he was recently moved up to train with the U18 team. They say the coaches are blown away by his talent. Will be keeping an eye out for him.
4.) 03 Nov 2024 12:59:48
We are currently blessed with a fantastic array of talent in our academy. That hasn't happened by chance, the rebuilding of the academy and the recruitment process at that level over the past 4-5 years are behind our current success at that level.
The challenge now is how can we help support our youngsters in making that leap from youth to senior football.
That step is massive and many talented lads fail to make it. You need a combination of talent, attitude and physical development.
Lads who don't quite have the level of talent we need but have a great attitude and physical condition often go on to make it lower down the football pyramid.
Lads who have the talent and the attitude but maybe take longer than others to grow into a mans body and be physically capable often end up playing at youth level for too long. They don't get the step up in skill and tactical knowledge to keep them growing and developing as players. As such they stall and often then struggle to reach their potential as they've spent several key development years not developing. A player who springs to mind in this bracket is Angel Gomes, someone who so obviously has the talent and the attitude, but has always been small and easily bullied.
We need a plan for these players. They probably will struggle for regular game time in England due to the physical nature of the game here, especially in lower leagues. We might need to look at loans to foreign leagues that are less physically demanding. In recent years we have actually seen many young English players leave EPL clubs to move abroad and start their careers. We should be looking at loans abroad for the lads who might struggle with the physical demands in England.
Finally we have the lads who have the talent and physical traits needed, but lack the right attitude. These lads get found out at professional level fairly quickly. Unless they quickly learn to change their attitude they tend to drop down the leagues. This is something that needs noticing earlier in the academy and working with these lads to help them improve their attitude before they get close to making their debut. Greater pastoral care for these lads when they are still kids might mean we have fewer Ravel Morrisons.
Looking at our current crop we have some players who really stand out.
Amir Ibragimov, Shea Lacey, Chido Obi-Martin, Jack Fletcher, Harry Amass and Samuel Lusale tend to stand out every time they play. I'd expect 2 or 3 of them to have a decent career with us, maybe a great one. Sekou Kone will be interesting to see how he adapts. Great things are expected of him.
You then have players like Elyh Harrison, Finley McAllister, Ethan Williams, Tyler Fletcher, Zach Baumann, Gabriele Biancheri and Bendito Mantato who are also showing a lot of ability and could put themselves into contention to get a debut and show what they can do.
The defenders are typically harder to tell as they need experience and time to grow to see who out of them might be able to make that step up. For them physicality is far more important for their position which means you have to wait longer to see who will be able to step up.
It's a great bunch and we have some potentially even more talented lads in the younger age groups as well.
15 Oct 2024 14:13:09
Never a dull day at United. Fergie's Involvement as club ambassador coming to an end.
This started a while ago and a lot of perks ex players enjoyed has come to an end.
1.) 15 Oct 2024 14:43:35
At £2m+ per annum in wages to SAF that's a decent saving. Plus SAF wasn't averse to suddenly cutting a player off at the knees for whatever reason he considered sound so difficult to feel sympathy for him. He'll still get to see matches as an unpaid member.
2.) 15 Oct 2024 14:50:32
2m pa is shocking.
Delighted they have withdrawn that role.
He will always be an ambassador for the club and we won't have to pay him.
Scandalous he was getting that sort of money.
3.) 15 Oct 2024 15:06:09
I wouldn't begrudge the salary Fergie gets for the role, it becomes a bit untenable when United are making a quarter of the workforce redundant.
Whilst we wait to see improvements on the pitch, at least we can see that we are back on the road to being run as a financially sound business.
4.) 15 Oct 2024 18:14:11
SAF influence should have been ended years ago, he should not have been allowed to push Moyes on the club. Liverpool sorted Shankly out quickly if I remember.
Well done to the new board, who made a decision relatively quickly.
Great he can attend games, let him enjoy his time around the club, but cease his influence on decisions as well. Good saving on the outgoings of the club.
5.) 15 Oct 2024 19:03:12
Yup. Let’s get rid of the one remaining person who truly understands the identity and ethos of the club so that we can settle into our new reality of mediocrity. We wouldn’t want SAF sharing his wisdom and decades of experience with Ten Hag, who clearly knows exactly what he’s doing.
£2m is a lot though, so I guess there is a silver lining of sorts. In forty years, we’ll have saved enough to cover the cost of the Antony transfer fee.
6.) 15 Oct 2024 20:25:33
We needed to move forward Red Seven, SAF influence over the last 11 years has not helped us develop. He was a great leader but we could not stay based on what worked in the 1980’s, we needed and need to move on.
7.) 15 Oct 2024 21:10:28
Perhaps a few more managers need to cut players off at the knees then possibly we would not be in the poor position we are currently with over privileged players walking round like they own the joint.
Again the club is being judged on the success he brought to the club and he perhaps deserves a little more respect than it appears he has been given, but of course that could be the press embellishing the story.
Thanks Fergie for all you have done for this great club.
8.) 15 Oct 2024 22:22:54
Beyond the appointment of Moyes none of us know what SAF's influence has or hasn't been over the last 11 years. I had always thought that he might be sticking his oar in on transfers but not so according to my executive inside track a couple of years ago. It was always Woodward, the accountant making all those great decisions.
My opinion is that SAF was an extremely loyal manager who - in public at least - found a way never to cross the owners. He retired at the top. After the last title he knew the gig was up, that he'd wrung every ounce of success he could out of a club that had an aging squad and was no longer competing for top players. I sat next to a Scotsman on a transatlantic flight who had only just had dinner with SAF's brother, and this is what he told me.
Clearly he doesn't need the money any more. He's estimated to have a net worth of $70m. He should be delighted to give up his paycheck for the good of the club. He will always be a legend. Our Rock of Gibraltar. Irony intended.
9.) 16 Oct 2024 07:24:49
Fergie will be feted rightly as a god by all who inhabit OT. He just doesn't need to be paid by the club any more.
He won't need money, he doesn't do a role that requires paying so why would a business any business keep giving money to someone they don't need especially when current rules over money hold back the people running the club from doing all they think they need to get to where the want to be.
I don't know what influence Sir Alex exerted over the club but I do know we spent a decade trying and failing to run the club as he did when all the successful clubs had moved to a new model, it didn't work because the key missing element was Sir Alex himself.
I have little doubt he will be welcomed back at OT whenever he wants and rightly lauded and probably offering his opinions to those who matter as and when it's wanted, he just doesn't need to be paid a couple of million a year for that.
10.) 16 Oct 2024 14:13:36
Spot on oakbark.
11.) 17 Oct 2024 04:40:37
No one man is bigger than the club, but the club would be a whole lot smaller were it not for SAF’s contributions. Given what he did for the club, £2m a year seems like a bargain, especially when we’re paying Antony £10m and Rashford £15m.
12.) 18 Oct 2024 10:36:28
redseven
I know you don't like rash but he can get that wage anywhere. he turned down 400 to go to PSG. He is our best winger whether you folks like it or not. He is a top player but getting a lot of hate from a section of the fan base for no reason.
The rest get a free pass whilst everything gets directed at him. They are also earning wages that is comparative to what they would earn elsewhere and that's what agents make sure they do for their players.
24 Sep 2024 14:23:23
Looks like Shaw now back after the international break and not sure what back means and how long before we see him play, eth side stepping giving anything concrete on him.
Also from the presser and some stuff written about players loads, our revamp of medical department and work done on understanding what went wrong last year etc etc
it looks like we will see lots of rotation and sounds like it will be a long season for many teams and how you manage injuries and loads.
Even though Rodri plays for city but personally hate to see great players sustain serious injuries. Can't see them winning the league or even finish top 2.
1.) 24 Sep 2024 14:55:55
Managers now play players in epl and in europe. We used to rotate more to protect players and we need to get back to it.
No point hanging on for Shaw to come back, he will be injured again within a few games. Same with malacia.
We are now finding a new way to play with Dalot playing LB and stepping into midfield leaving a back 3. It looked good first half against palace.
2.) 24 Sep 2024 15:10:44
dodgy
I think Malacia will play before we see Shaw back on the pitch. He looks very fit and hope you are wrong.
I agree, Shaw will get injured just when you think he is properly match fit.
We will be in crisis mode if mazroui or dalot get injured. Need both players back to share the volume of games we maybe playing.
3.) 24 Sep 2024 15:23:48
Will we play as many games as last season?
4.) 24 Sep 2024 16:05:36
Surprised it's not 'back FOR the international break'
5.) 24 Sep 2024 18:11:39
Very good key. ?
We do need to Jane one or both back ASAP.
Dalot is doing his steady enough stuff out on the left. He adds nothing or very little in attack from the right really so he does the same from the left.
Maz and dalot can't play every game so the sooner we get them back it will allow them to rotate a bit on the right.
6.) 25 Sep 2024 07:28:40
Perhaps it's time to give Amass some minutes. I did think he might have played against Barnsley.
7.) 25 Sep 2024 17:56:47
Mh the manager has said he won't consider amass this year. He has determined he is not ready. We might see him next year.
Picking collyer ahead of him tells you the manager has made his mind up and amass will just have to be patient and work hard, he is still only 17.
8.) 25 Sep 2024 19:36:03
TW,
Your right, but sometimes 10 minutes here or there can do a young kid wonders and sour him on.
The Barnsley game being a prime example. Although it is difficult to blood youngsters at time.
I do think Amass needs to work more on his defensive side of football.
20 Sep 2024 17:44:49
Lindelof back to first team training and malaria partially training wit the first team. May the trend continue.
Still nothing on shaw, looks like malacia is ahead of him of him now and i wonder what is the real issue with shaw.
1.) 20 Sep 2024 18:42:30
Just our luck. All these injuries coming back then we get hit by a mosquito-borne infectious disease.
2.) 20 Sep 2024 18:45:24
I’ve heard of some football injuries but malaria? ?.
3.) 20 Sep 2024 19:19:23
lol malacia was the intent.
4.) 20 Sep 2024 23:33:36
3 fit fullbacks is a sight for sore eyes.
5.) 21 Sep 2024 03:17:42
Euros
Late returning players
Match fitness
Young players
Late signings
And now………. Malaria
The excuses are getting better it has to be said.
6.) 21 Sep 2024 09:06:48
Malacia interests me greatly. There’s a reason the club haven’t gone in for a new LB yet. Whatever challenges he can get over, there is a good player in there. Never really got a run of games going to get used to the pace of the Premier League. Takes time to actually adapt to match conditions at the level above he’s used to.
7.) 21 Sep 2024 11:24:43
Malacia did very well when he signed and pushed Luke Shaw to up his game. Will be wonderful to have him and Shaw fit and also Mazroui and Dalot. Good options.
8.) 22 Sep 2024 15:17:03
Malacia did a good job initially pushing Shaw for a starting place and didn't really do anything wrong when he played.
Whether he can get back to his best form and kick on with us remains to be seen.
I suspect the reason the club didn't sign another LB this summer is a combination of lacking funds, and also justifying buying a 4th LB for the squad without any of the others leaving.
Young Harry Amass is highly thought of and they supposedly want to create a pathway for him.
I'd imagine at least one or maybe even both of Shaw and Malacia will leave next summer, with a new LB signing and more time for Harry Amass in the first team.
I hope Malacia gets back to full fitness and into form. But that might just be to facilitate an exit.
19 Oct 2024 09:05:40
Redseven
A midfielder who has an excellent first touch and turn who advances the ball, intelligent and good passer and a good engine on him can play for most good teams.
Don't muddy the waters. If he is healthy and if we genuinely want him and can be secured by people who are a lot more qualified than me and you, I am happy to go with it.
18 Oct 2024 23:17:38
Redseven
So FDJ is a great player but because eth wants him you don't want him. okay then that makes a lot of sense.
18 Oct 2024 10:45:21
A healthy a FDJ is a superb player and will have many suitors. I can see city and many other top teams lining up. He would vastly improve us so no issues from me if he came.
Unfortunately he seems to keep injuring the same ankle so its just another click bait story imo.
29 Sep 2024 11:44:02
Arteta lost his first 3 league games in his third year and had managed 4 points from first 5 games.
Arsenal fans were calling for his head and the whole stadium was booing. people have short memories and revisionist.
The spend amount that keeps getting quoted is just lazy stuff go to Transfermarkt and add 3 numbers, can't be that difficult.
If beating city was a yeaah why has no one else done it the England since Guardiola has been here yeaah.
23 Sep 2024 16:30:11
Hi Ed002
I hope all is well with you. In terms of as you say sent scouts, clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea, United how many players do they scout annually and is this a weekly occurrence where multiple players are being scouted.
{Ed002's Note - Scouts attend at least one game a week and often work for multiple clubs. Senior scouts will look to specific players based on the advice of the scouting system.}
24 Mar 2025 16:56:29
he only has one year left on his contract with us i think. even if they send him back we should be able to shift him.
05 Mar 2025 18:53:01
redman
He will get sacked when we sitting in 10th place after 10 games. he can't compete at pl level imo. He has one plan and no good manager I know operates that way. Useful/ nice guy to do what they want in terms of shedding the wage bill. Lovely honest guy but this league is way beyond him. I do respect him he will die by his own sword like 95% of newly promoted managers who want to stick to their principles of what got them promoted.
Buckle up it will be an ugly rough last 10 games my friend.
05 Mar 2025 18:44:25
angel
This guy is toast and just a matter of when. He is a useful tool for them to do what they want to do in terms of restructuring our bills and clearing the deck in terms of the squad. They will not sell the farm betting on him come summer unless they are noobs and they are far from that and will buy what they think the next guy can use.
We are going to have a horrendous season with him in charge for 30 games, that is almost a full season and he will break every conceivable record for worst, including pre Ferguson era.
05 Mar 2025 18:35:58
offcourse grim its all eth fault including the leaks in the roof. only if he had hired I will fix it now. The fan base is so desperate to believe in amorim changing our fortunes. Watch the football we play, that's the best measure of the guy not noise.
04 Mar 2025 17:45:26
why is it so surprising he is starting to get a lot of negative press. He can't win a damn game against any decent pl team. We suck and this system is making us a lot worse. Even with more new players in the summer I am not convinced he is going to make it.
We have never been this bad since Fergie under any manager. Many got sacked for less so he is going to get heat until he wins games. problem is now we have a brutal remaining fixture list but Leicester away and if we lose that I would not be surprised.
I posted last week our remaining fixture list and thought we would do well to win 3 which included Ipswich tie. I am more inclined to think we will win one more game from here till the end of the season.