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05 Jan 2025 13:24:00
Make of it what you will, but Garnacho has deleted his Twitter account this morning.
1.) 05 Jan 2025 13:50:05
I would imagine he's been advised to do so to prevent him from digging his hole any deeper - he does have rather a dim bulb.
2.) 05 Jan 2025 19:35:49
And he stopped coloring his hair, he probably wants to become a footballer again ?.
3.) 05 Jan 2025 20:18:43
He’s also got an assist at Anfield more importantly.
4.) 05 Jan 2025 22:17:57
Garnacho has the talent, but it's whether he has the mentality to make it. He's made some poor decisions and shown his childish tendencies a little too often.
It's harsh, but when you play for Manchester United you have to grow up fast or you'll fade away.
I think he needs better people around him advising him, as many of his faux pas could have easily been avoided if he listened to some sound advice.
I've said previously that he doesn't have a natural spot in this Amorim system based on what he's shown himself to be as a footballer so far. He will need to get his head down (figuratively speaking, on the pitch however he needs to lift his head up) and round out his game. The only place for him is in one of those No.10 roles, but he needs to be more like Messi than Ronaldo I that position. He needs to be creative, hard working and a team player. He needs to learn to link with his team mates better, play for them.
If he does that then he'll become a top player, if not then he'll be gone within two years and risks becoming another Januzaj.
I thought he looked a better today against Liverpool, he played the assist to Amad rather than smash the ball at goal from a tight angle. That was a good decision and showed what he can do if he lifts his head and looks for his teammates.
5.) 06 Jan 2025 06:18:50
Good on him.
He looks a shadow of himself on the pitch at the moment. I hope it's a "full focus on football" type of choice.
If I were a professional footballer, i'd have no social media whatsoever.
6.) 07 Jan 2025 02:26:51
Liverpool fan in peace here and I think it is a good sign that Garnacho has deleted his social media accounts. I always found him to be a good prospect for you lot but he seems to have lost his way a bit since the start of the season. It didn't help that the fans and media were building him up to be the main man in the team, which understandably contributed to him developing a bit of a big head. Hopefully this is a sign that he is putting his head down and is working hard on himself again.
18 Oct 2024 06:59:15
Rumour is that ETH is keen to sign midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 27, in January as he attempts to rebuild his midfield. Not again, please
If the new board gives in to this nonsense I will lose a bit of faith in them. Stop pandering to the manager turning us into a dutch Ajax B team. I hope it's like Wesley Schneider who never turned up.
However, we could do with a magician in the club, Dynamo would be best and make the manager disappear.
1.) 18 Oct 2024 08:09:54
Hopefully he does sign him in January along with Antony.
2.) 18 Oct 2024 10:07:04
I doubt due to wages he wouldn't be an option now but I'd have him all day long. Not had a midfielder that controls a game since the days of Scholesy. I imagine we'll end up with Gomes or Ward-Prowse.
3.) 18 Oct 2024 10:45:21
A healthy a FDJ is a superb player and will have many suitors. I can see city and many other top teams lining up. He would vastly improve us so no issues from me if he came.
Unfortunately he seems to keep injuring the same ankle so its just another click bait story imo.
4.) 19 Oct 2024 06:53:27
Red man, it's Wilcox who wants him.
5.) 19 Oct 2024 12:40:07
Angel
Is it?
A 27 year old, with injury issues, doesn’t seem to fit with everything we we were told about the direction of the club on signings. Looks nearer to a Casemiro type signing.
We need someone to score goals.
6.) 20 Oct 2024 14:59:21
Red Man, you make 27 sound ancient! A midfielder at 27 should be in their prime. Can't compare with the Cas signing. The injuries, fair enough. But 27, c'mon mate ?.
05 May 2024 18:09:44
Maguire injured in training and out for 3 weeks apparently. Another training injury.
1.) 05 May 2024 18:20:58
I think he's been playing injured for quite some time.
2.) 05 May 2024 18:21:55
Just posted that. Surely someone has to be looking at our training methods, the amount of muscle injuries is a total joke.
3.) 05 May 2024 20:06:39
Does anyone remember that up until a recent point, the length and type of injury was never disclosed?
And now the media machine is in overdrive, things have become a lot more detailed ?.
4.) 06 May 2024 07:13:09
Might mean that Louis Jackson gets his chance.
5.) 06 May 2024 11:40:33
Other clubs have suffered similar injury issues when they have had a manager trying to introduce a high energy pressing style.
The thought is that you need to increase the players fitness and stamina and the only way to do that is to train at a high level over a long period of time to raise base level fitness.
Teams that have done this have tended to suffer a season of excessive injuries, before the players were conditioned to have the stamina and base fitness required to play a high pressing style.
Given EtH's comments at the start of the season of wanting to turn us into the best transitional team in the world, along with occasional comments about the intensity of training, and our injuries this season it does sound like we are training to raise base fitness and stamina of the squad, which will be contributing to the injuries.
If we are to commit to a high energy, transitional style then these injuries are just part of the growing pains that we will have to endure to get there.
Hopefully next season then players will be better conditioned because of this season and less prone to injuries, while those not suited to that style should hopefully be moved on and replaced with players suited to that style.
Of course that depends on whether the manager will be here next season and that style is the style the new owners/ club structure wants us to play moving forward.
From the outside looking in it looks like EtH tried to introduce this style at the start of last season, but quickly realised he didn't have the players to play it, so he went more pragmatic. Over the summer he looked to make changes to the squad and decided to commit to this style of play. According to the man himself part of his remit when he was hired was to impart this style of play on the squad. Last season they accepted the limitations and a more pragmatic approach, but with the intention of planning for and moving towards this direction this season.
EtH seems to have just followed through with the plan agreed between him and the club. He's taking the short term pain on the chin this season with a view on the long term gains.
It would be a shame if he doesn't get the chance to see through these plans, but if the new club structure doesn't align with this direction then it's best to end things sooner rather than later.
Personally as a fan I prefer a higher energy more transitional style over a slower possession based approach. I feel it's more entertaining to watch and is more closely aligned to the style of play I associate with Manchester United.
Yet that is just my opinion, and ultimately it is the opinion of the new owners and the new people being put in key positions at the club that will ultimately decide the direction of the club. My job as a supporter isn't to fight against it if they don't do what I want, but to support the club in this new direction. Whatever that may be.
26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.
1.) 27 Apr 2024 16:02:51
INEOS will be upgrading the men's section of Carrington this summer. Much welcome changes.
2.) 28 Apr 2024 11:25:30
I love these kinds of rumours, and it's a shame we don't see more of them on here anymore.
I think it's clear there will be big changes at the club over the next decade or more.
SJR has not invested a huge amount of money (with it likely that he will invest more in the future) in order to keep things as they are.
I think he sees Manchester United as his legacy, his chance to leave an indelible mark on the city he grew up in. Can he be the man who puts Manchester United back on our perch.
The rumours and from what he's said openly all sound great. Focus on youth and developing players, something that should be synonymous with the club. Focus on an entertaining style of play, again something that has been a big part of our history. Looking to redevelop Old Trafford and the surrounding area. To breathe new life into Manchester and create a stadium and facilities that are not just the envy of the rest of the country, but also that can support and reconnect the club with the local area. Somewhere for people to gather as a community, a place that offers employment opportunities, improvements in infrastructure and possibly even housing.
The club appears to be focused on buying up space around the stadium, and that almost certainly means they are gearing towards some form of redevelopment of the area. While the recent news of a task force being put together to look at and explore opportunities around the stadium just confirms this.
Personally I'd like to see a Manchester United development built up. With ideally a new stadium that will be the biggest and best in the country, a second smaller stadium for the women and youth teams to play at, hotels, food outlets, a rebuilt museum, a community centre, shops, and attractions. With well integrated sustainable infrastructure, roads, rail etc.
Somewhere for fans to gather not just for hours before and after matches, but for youth and women's games, for special events and weekly events. Somewhere that can be the hub of the Manchester United community.
Hopefully that or something closer to that is what we get. How we get there I don't know, but I have faith that SJR will push to get us something like that.
3.) 30 Apr 2024 12:09:25
heres another 1 shappy- for quite some time we always parked in akp grounds rear of the ticket office and canal. Earlier this year got told off the attendants that "man utd had taken keys back " and stopped it and the depot from being used . Large plot in very prominent position.
11 Mar 2024 20:38:58
Reports say Amad has deleted all mention of his club connection from his social media. Another player hacked off, likely because he has got virtually zero minutes. Looked to have a nice left foot.
1.) 11 Mar 2024 22:25:49
Another unusual signing of the Ole era.
2.) 12 Mar 2024 05:58:01
Wazza
Big money for an unknown kid. But he hasn’t even been given minutes from Sub, why not, instead of Antony. Now another player that looks like he has been ostracised by ETH, whose value will now plummet because of this. Someone needs to ask if ETH is handling these situations right. Bruno, Rashford and Antony don’t have to play well, get time. Now ETH has pushed another nose out of joint by the look of it. Good enough not good enough but the kid hasn’t been given anything.
3.) 12 Mar 2024 07:07:33
Out of curiosity did you see him play at forest in the cup? Looked a million miles off the required level in that 25 minutes! I’m not sure why the manager is getting stuck for a ridiculous priced signing he didn’t make not getting minutes when he sees him every day and it appears Forson has jumped above him!
4.) 12 Mar 2024 07:29:53
He has been given minutes.
How do you know this is a falling out with the manager, rather than Diallo now performing well in training?
Hasn’t ETH dropped Antony to give your beloved Garnacho that position, with the latter starting something like 25 games in a row
This pesty manager, I really wish he’d give one or two teenagers a prolonged run in the team….
5.) 12 Mar 2024 07:30:18
Apparently that's not quite right, he's deactivated his social media for Ramadan.
Be careful which reports you read and remember not to jump to conclusions.
6.) 12 Mar 2024 08:53:44
He has explained that decision by saying: “I deactivated my social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan, it’s a holy month for me and social media is a place where there are bad things to see during fasting. Stop the hatred, there’s nothing wrong with what I did. ”.
7.) 12 Mar 2024 10:35:46
He deleted Utd related stuff and left those from Sunderland. I know we play some haram football under ten Hag but come on, read between the lines. I get his frustration though. I too would be fuming if Antony was playing more minutes than me, and I am not even a professional footballer.
8.) 12 Mar 2024 10:51:40
Quick to jump on absolutely anything to have a go at the club, maybe take a step back and think before you post. The press make enough stuff up without stirring it up ourselves, I guess they got what they wanted though if people believed it.
9.) 12 Mar 2024 14:24:54
He doesn't get a game because he's no better than what we have already.
Absolute waste of money!
40 million Euros for a player that made 5 first team apperances and currently earns about 35 grand a week.
This just about sums United up really.
10.) 12 Mar 2024 14:48:52
Of course its ETH fault, everything is his fault. Posters here know more than the manager who spends 6 days a week with the players.
11.) 12 Mar 2024 15:53:19
Nice to see some humility from Red Man with an admission of getting it very wrong!
On an unrelated matter, I recently saw ETH walking down the street and at the bottom of the road he had the temerity to turn right, can you believe that? clearly this shows a complete unsuitability to be allowed to walk outside as all the experts know you should always turn left at the bottom of a road.
12.) 12 Mar 2024 19:06:07
IWOTB,
It reminds me of my mates in WhatsApp groups who only message when we are losing, as soon as we are winning I hear nothing, nobody seems to be able to celebrate wins anymore, just get annoyed about defeats.
13.) 12 Mar 2024 20:09:08
I want our trophy back
If I was wrong then I hold my hands up
However, sounds an unusual action especially if he left the Sunderland information in. Looks to me like he was frustrated and reacted, but see what happens to him and see what information comes out.
14.) 12 Mar 2024 22:09:44
Red Man, he has clearly stated that he has deactivated his social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan.
The point is though, you seem to just scour the media purely to seek negative stories which you then jump on here to use as a stick to beat every aspect of the club with. Leaving aside the issue of perhaps looking to find some correlation of the truth or otherwise of these usually spurious and nonsensical stories, it has to be said you seem to have lost all sense of even handedness and fair mindedness towards anything related to the club, yet you try and present yourself as some form of premier supporter.
15.) 12 Mar 2024 22:14:39
Giggs to Sheringham, yes mate, you are spot on. When we win almost no posts, see after Everton game.
If we lose it goes mental with dozens of posts essentially repeating the same thing over and over.
16.) 13 Mar 2024 10:31:57
Redman - look at what this player just did.
Everyone - the guy gave a clear explanation, it’s nothing.
Redman - *staring at photo of Amad’s nice left foot* still seems fishy to me.
17.) 13 Mar 2024 18:39:10
I want our trophy back
Let’s see as the season comes to a close. I will say something about what I see, especially when the clowns at the club have made such a mess.
Also, I won’t bother posting about it, sure you can read about Season Ticket holders in Section 122.
Danny, well they told me it was Amads left foot I was looking at….
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22 May 2025 22:44:54
A few years ago a few of us speculated whether we would accept relegation to get rid of the Glazers. We have seen this season, us get as close to that as we would like to go. However, the Glazer leeches are presently sat there with no golden goose Champions league cash cow, no European football next season and can see the need to spend money to even get closer to it. Will they be able to get the dividends they crave anytime soon? . Will the dividends, if any, be large enough?
Is this the near miss and potential future cash shortage that actually makes the Glazer leeches consider selling up in full. Could we get a benevolent owner who pays the debt off, let's us trade without the noose round our necks. If so, if they sell and we get a benevolent owner, what a great season it would have been.
1.) 22 May 2025 22:51:12
?
The bigger picture.
2.) 23 May 2025 01:20:38
They want to rake in money from the regeneration and new stadium. Why would they leave? They are making a fortune and it doesn't even matter if we are un successful. Shirt sales will still be strong next year. Amorims jumper sells out while the team is sinking. Full stadium.
3.) 23 May 2025 01:37:36
Oh so not the system this time, let’s blame the Glazers, you wanted SJR you got him, now he is problem too, someone new comes in and things on pitch don’t go right, let’s blame them.
Glazers gave 600 million to ETH he blew the lot and not one player any good, the Glazers have always released funds for players, ok the accounts don’t make good reading, but it’s business and really that makes not much difference to the performances on the pitch.
There are problems at the club, but thinking oh get the Glazers out and they all go away is just plain ridiculous.
4.) 23 May 2025 02:14:47
Fair point Red Man. The footballing side of Utd has been poor this season and income would definitely drop for your club without European football to play next season. But Utd are still a cash cow in of itself and I'm not sure they have fully squeezed it dry yet. As long as there remains money to be made for themselves, I think they'd stay.
5.) 23 May 2025 06:14:23
The only money the Glazers can take out of Utd is in dividends, and those are now only paid when we make a profit, which over the last few years hasn’t happened, and is unlikely over the next few, especially if there is a stadium to pay for.
The value for the Glazers is now only what they can sell it for, they wanted a record amount for a sporting club, they will not get that in its current state, so while financial it costs them nothing to just sit in Florida and wait, they will expect their stooge SJR to do all the dirty work and he is daft enough to do it.
6.) 23 May 2025 06:53:54
Germansuppclub
You like to quote on past quotes on here, however, above you said “ you wanted SJR you got him, now he is problem too”. You are very very very wrong. I wanted the Sheikh, made that very clear on here. I called SJR the rat for enabling the Glazers to stay.
If you seriously don’t think the Glazers have done serious damage to this club then business wise you are clueless. The debts have been a millstone round our necks for over 20 years. We suffer PSR issues and one major issue is the debt costing £60m a year to service.
You said the Glazers gave ETH money, clueless. The Glazers have not put one cent into the club, not one. The club gave ETH money whilst those slithering leeches have made Billions. I have been consistently anti Glazer since they arrived because I understood the financial implications of the transaction. I have said the same since I came on here 15 years ago. You need to better understand what they have done.
7.) 23 May 2025 07:01:10
Not the old everything would be rosy without the Glazers again the same Glazers who spent nearly 700 million for the last dummy in the dugout was it the Glazers fault he opted to play with no midfield? I couldn't care less about them taking dividends i'd do the same its a business not a charity. I only care about the action on the pitch which has been garbage under TH and worse under Amo a lot of clubs would be buzzing with the Glazers as owners giving unlimited funds to every dummy they hire if only they could pick a good manager maybe time fans looked at the players and managers making a fool of them with there ridiculous chat get on there backs instead of giving them a free pass waving the daft green and gold yes they're not good owners but could be a lot worse me personally i blame Amos 1 dimensional ideas for this seasons disaster he'd best get of to a good start nxt yesr or be bye bye.
8.) 23 May 2025 08:37:54
Brum boi, grow up! The Glazers have not spent a single penny/ dime of their own money. Wake up and smell the coffee boi!
9.) 23 May 2025 08:38:46
Red Man, it's a wonderful dream but I wake up and nothing has changed. But one can dream.
10.) 23 May 2025 10:05:20
Red man your just being facetious, ok under the Glazers we have spent money, I am fully aware it’s not there own money…. and quite frankly please don’t get all personal and derogatory stating I am clueless in business, plus get of your high horse for one minute I made a comment in general, it did not mention your name, so was not directed directly to you, but if you want to see it that way then fine.
Did ETH not spend 600 million, was the Glazers not in overall control of the business which is United, think you will find both those 100% YES is every player ETH bought under his stewardship as your being so pedantic all useless and all not suited to the team or league…. probably yes
So take a breath and think first.
11.) 23 May 2025 10:49:22
German, why the need fight the world with every post? We're all on the same side.
12.) 23 May 2025 11:10:20
Cos he bombed our chip shops. hahahaha.
13.) 23 May 2025 17:26:35
Fizz they've spent a fortune on players 2nd highest wage bill in the league they've allowed rotten managers to rip the soul out of the club tho lower expectations till avoiding relagation is seen as a tidy season i wish they would sell as well get a proper ambitious board in place but let's be honest there hopeless so how can the managers they pick be any better lucky bag finds TH Ole Amo we stick by them as well like the world will end if we sack them hoping blindly time and hundreds of millions will turn them in to Ancelloti its no happening these guys are chancers clowns who no serious club would touch with a bargepole shouldve got Southgate good steady hand if he'd got say Belgium to numerous finals/ semis while introducing young players like Bellingham Saka while having a sexy foreign name UTD fans wouldve been creaming there pants over him.
14.) 23 May 2025 17:53:43
Brum boi that’s total bolloxology.
21 May 2025 12:15:46
So Final day. Under the Spurs manager they have won 4 and drawn 1 against us, so they should be favourites, especially having won the three games this season.
We can concede a goal and Son and their CF can score, we don't defend well against Premier League forwards. However, 30 years old Bruno is Captain and now has to stand up and show he is THE player, he must show it is his time, his final. Big players stand up in big games and whilst the first half of the season he wasn't great, he has notably improved. It must be his moment, he must stand above the nerves. Don't get anyone sent off, play with 11 and we can win.
There can be no excuses for a lack of effort tonight and we played at the stadium only a few weeks ago and played well. Bring it on.
1.) 21 May 2025 12:48:48
This lot pick and choose when to turn up so wouldn’t be suprised if they did and you see the best performance of the season when it’s needed
But then again we could get the same drivel we’ve got for 2 years where they don’t want to put a shift in
My worry is not being clinical, we seen the cup game and the 1-0 away defeat we created enough chances to score 5 or 6 and with temu haaland up top you are never confident we will score
Same goes with the defence and gk we always look like conceding, full backs switch off a lot and the cbs don’t communicate and at times look lost as how to defend.
Not confident at all but we’ve shown this team can turn up in one off games. So let’s hope they do
We are due a win and we are due one against spurs who are without 3 of there starting midfield
All we ask is they run like dogs and fight for every ball.
2.) 21 May 2025 18:44:03
I'm slightly nervous if I'm honest. I think the fact that so much rides on this result for us does really make it feel like a do or die moment for us.
Ordinarily I wouldn't be worried about playing Spurs in a final. It's Spurs, they are known for grasping defeat from the jaws of victory after all.
Yet there's that annoying thing in football where things seem to align in an odd sort of way. Things like Ange always winning something in his second season at a club. Is this the year he fails to keep up that trend?
Or the fact that things often come in threes, and we've seen Palace win their first trophy ever, while Newcastle have won their first in a generation. Will Spurs complete the trifecta by also winning their first in a generation?
On the other hand United have the experience, the history and have been pretty good in Europe (only unbeaten side) . Yet our record against EPL teams this season is abysmal to say the least. Will this game be played at an EPL pace/ intensity or that of the Europa league? Will the Ref even allow it to be played like an EPL game?
This game really does feel like it's on a coin flip. And if it goes against us not only will it be a bitter blow, it will also have huge consequences on how we can start to rebuild this squad for next season and beyond. Plus I think I'm all bantered out from opposition fans, I'm not sure I can take much more, and losing a final to Spurs would bring down a mountain of banter on our heads. I'm not sure I can take that right now, I'll probably end up with a ABH charge and court appearance.
This game means so much, yet even if we win it would be little comfort after a brutal season. I think like many Manchester United supporters, I've just been beaten down by this season. I need it to end, draw a line under it and looks forward to hopefully a brighter season next year.
14 May 2025 16:52:43
Following Amorim paying for 30 to go to the final, Cantona has followed, Bruno as well offering 50 and Evra also saying he will fund the tickets saying if Ineos are so broke.
It's actually an embarrassment to the club.
1.) 14 May 2025 17:59:50
It’s a shameful situation. I didn’t think we could drift further from the club’s ethos than the Glazers, but the new ownership team has taken us even lower.
2.) 14 May 2025 18:35:16
Shameful is the word Danny, what have we become?
3.) 14 May 2025 19:51:21
I know I replied already ut I al sppalled at this. The fact the manager and captain have stepped up sends a very clear message to the owners, and it's not a positive one.
If they feel they need to do this, imagine how they feel about the owners, andvie the owners maybe else. About them doing this.
I hate the Glazers, almost as much as Red Man does, but the new owners are horrible horrible people.
Our club was a community club, it stood for something, but now it is a corporate machine led by cold clinical business people. I am weeping.
{Ed025's Note - i really want to tell you that you are wrong AJH...but i cant mate..
4.) 14 May 2025 19:55:33
A poorly managed company, AJH.
The club used to be part of the community, now it’s a failing business.
5.) 14 May 2025 21:05:00
Shocking red man. But we have been told that the club will be in a better place because of these hard cuts. , this is not who or what man united are. It's getting to the point where this club is becoming harder and harder to support.
Get that scumbag Jim as far away from our club as possible.
6.) 14 May 2025 21:25:51
Is this actually true? It beggars belief.
{Ed025's Note - nothing should surprise you with United these days Fizz..
7.) 14 May 2025 21:54:40
It doesn’t 25. I’ve been off comms for a short while so hadn’t heard this. Hence my comment that it beggars belief.
8.) 14 May 2025 22:09:13
What is the actual deal with this situation? Is the club not paying for staff to go to Bilbao? This can’t be coaches, kit men etc because surely they’d be going anyway… is it their families the club won’t fund. I tried searching but most of the stories I read were a bit vague on the details there’s also a story that they are only giving 2 tickets to players families that can’t be right surely?
9.) 15 May 2025 00:04:13
AJH, "we" have not become anything.
Neither have the tossers running Man Utd. They've always been tossers.
10.) 15 May 2025 00:06:39
We have quickly become the Ryanair of football.
11.) 15 May 2025 01:47:30
Not quite sure why anyone surprised with SJR and the methods he uses, many had those red tints on again when he arrived…. it was only ever going to be this way and don’t think it won’t get worse, the real problem is it won’t get better after all the pain…. stuttering from one shambles to another, the grass ain’t always greener…. problem is you just have to go with it, until a big change comes but that’s probably not anytime soon! SADLY.
12.) 15 May 2025 04:45:37
The club have always been penny pinching, there is the story of Zlatan being deducted £1 from his salary because he had a fruit juice from the mini bar.
13.) 15 May 2025 04:49:23
The irony is that the club will probably be paying for the billionaire Glazers to attend.
14.) 15 May 2025 06:57:33
Grim
The club paid the £30m costs so the Glazers could sell some of their shares to SJR and could pocket the £1.3Bn. I can bet the Glazers will have a club expensed trip plus full security to the final.
15.) 15 May 2025 08:57:00
On face value it seems poor
But how does it compare to Spurs?
Are Utd doing what others do?
Ratcliffes cuts seem way too drastic and is compromising our identity.
16.) 15 May 2025 09:46:50
I have a different opinion on this but it won’t go down well as everyone has made their minds up. Spurs have given 700 seats to staff, some of which probably aren’t even Spurs fans which means 700 loyal fans will miss out on tickets. United got 14,000 tickets for the final, if 700 were given to staff that’s 5% of the allocation gone straight away and 700 season ticket holders missing out on a ticket and probably buying one off for £1500 off an admin worker who doesn’t when support United.
Whilst I agree close members of staff to the team should be going (which they now are) I think loyal fans and season ticket holders should get first chance to go to the final. Fortunately I got a ticket, others not so lucky, maybe I wouldn’t have been if Helen from the canteen was going instead.
Don’t expect everyone to agree and I see the opinion and that it’s the done thing to slag off everything Sir Jim does but there are 700 real fans happy to be going to Bilbao next week that perhaps wouldn’t have been otherwise, so 2 sides to every story. When I worked at the club pre Glazers I never got given a ticket for finals either, it’s a total non story but seems it’s stirred up the usuals.
17.) 15 May 2025 10:22:58
GDS2
Please correct me if I am wrong but I understood it slightly differently
This won’t release 700 real fans with tickets the staff or staff relatives won’t get. I understood the staff still have the entitlement to the tickets but have to pay for them. Happy to be wrong and many times as a Season Ticket holder, even as a standing supporter with a Token sheet and been to all games, all tokens couldn’t get a final ticket, well not through the standard method anyway so 100% understand the issues. Corporate tickets started hoovering up final tickets, luckily I benefitted on one occasion but missed finals because of it.
However you frame this, the message that Amorim and several others have felt it necessary to personally fund this does not look a good image.
18.) 15 May 2025 10:50:01
That stinks off I am alright because I got a ticket so F the rest! Class….
19.) 15 May 2025 12:35:49
I've no idea what's true and what's Chinese whispers.
Imo a defined style of tickets should be made available for staff to buy i don't think they should be given one free.
I don't think the club should be paying for family members to attend. If the players or manager want to pay for that it's great they all earn big money so it's within their capabilities.
It's also writing sjr's capabilities and it's a gesture that imo he could have made personally or at least contributed. But in no way should a company losing money and laying of staff be seen to fund a jolly for employee families.
@redman I hear you corporate tickets are hoovering up tickets for all sorts of events. I can get a ticket for any event i want through that route and consider myself very privileged on that score. But without corporate funding then most clubs would have to charge double or treble the prices to the non corporate fans.
The business should not be paying at this time so I fully agree that the millionaire employees should dig deep for their less wealthy colleagues and families.
20.) 15 May 2025 14:39:00
Spurs are offering a free ticket to every full-time employee but United have only set aside a small number for a staff ballot. Paris Saint-Germain are also paying for 600 staff members to attend the Champions League final against Inter in Munich on May 31.
We are cheap.
21.) 15 May 2025 15:33:02
I believe both of the others are making money and not making a staff redundant ajh.
The club cannot be paying stag off and be finding a jolly. The club should not be paying in their circumstances. I do believe it could amd should be privately funded.
22.) 15 May 2025 16:17:00
Well it seems players, old and current perhaps disagree. We are non profitable right now, but not because of Christmas bonuses or free tickets, but because of incompetent transfer business, massively inflated fees and stupid salaries.
As a long time United fan said to me 4ecently, love the shirt, hate the club.
23.) 15 May 2025 16:49:30
I have to agree with Ken on this one. It would be in poor taste to make hundreds of staff redundant and then spend tens of thousands of pounds to fly the remaining staff over to Bilbao.
Of course, whether or not hundreds of staff should have been made redundant in the first place is another matter entirely. From what I gather, poor decision making had led to the club’s workforce becoming bloated, but the scope and scale of the cuts seems pretty brutal nonetheless.
24.) 15 May 2025 17:02:14
It’s petty but that’s SJR as was the cutting of staff, but again it’s the track record of Ineos
No wonder there is bad vibes running throughout the club, when salaried staff are having to cover some of the loses made by stupid director level decisions and let’s be fair SJR is not exempt from the stupid wasted millions.
He would have gained respect if he had said the club can’t afford it, but I can personally fund it and will.
If it’s happened previously it should continue
But then again you have to have class to live on principles I am afraid united and its owners are deeply lacking in that department!
I am really concerned the pockets for players we need won’t be very deep and it will be shoestring purchases.
25.) 15 May 2025 17:06:56
I think Ratcliffe missed a trick, the wealthy putting their hands in their pockets, shouldn’t be Amorim, Cantona, Evra, Bruno. It should have been the Billionaire SJR, not for the kudos but because he could.
26.) 15 May 2025 18:17:37
There's a reason why billionaires are billionaires RedMan. Lol.
27.) 15 May 2025 18:17:49
It is petty, German. But it makes Ratcliffe look like he's the big strong guy who'll make the tough decisions to get us back again. By focusing on the easy targets.
{Ed025's Note - i never thought you would have worse owners than the Glazers Noucamp, but i think SJR has usurped them mate..
28.) 15 May 2025 18:25:43
You forgot to mention the millions they spent hiring and firing Dan Ashworth, or the money wasted bringing in new coaches last summer, only to see them leave with compensation in their pockets after a few months.
I definitely think that not buying staff tickets for the final will cancel that out.
29.) 15 May 2025 18:56:14
Couldn't agree more on that one redman.
The club cannot afford it and it would not have been right to do it given the recent and forthcoming redundancies
However he can afford it personally and should have made the gesture imo.
30.) 16 May 2025 09:53:47
I think Redman nailed it. Even if the club wasn't funding it, Radcliffe could have paid out of his own pocket. Like you said Redman; because he can.
31.) 16 May 2025 20:36:37
German,
I’ve no idea how you got that from my post, I said I understand people’s opinions on the matter and that I just have a different one. Hilarious though.
12 May 2025 22:15:13
There is an interesting way to look at RA interview where he says we have to be brave and strong in summer. If the club don't back him, if they do what they did with Mourinho, then this guy may not wait for the pay off, he may resign after or before the end of the transfer window if we don't support him. Well done to him, he looks someone who has conviction.
It looked to be like he meant he won't bumble along like Jose and ETH did. Interesting to see how the club support him.
1.) 12 May 2025 22:28:03
Well it all depends on how one sees it red man. He could also realise that he may be out of his depth. He could see this as a good way out. Claim that the club is a mess, won't back him and leave.
2.) 13 May 2025 01:09:21
You don't think the club is in a mess Angel? Same owners. 5th highest wage bill in europe, 2nd highest spend last 5 years, and look what we have to show for it. We have the greatest debt for any club without a new stadium, we can be proud of that. We won at debt.
3.) 13 May 2025 06:29:09
I agree Red Man. I think he’s put a message to INEOS saying, I’m your man, you picked me now you have to back me properly or I’ll go. If they don’t and he walks, they are again left with egg on their face. They’re already having the leadership questioned, this scenario would very embarrassing for them. I think he’s been clever here.
4.) 13 May 2025 06:30:29
DB it has been for years and years. But apparently these were the new owners to fix that. We actually have a footballing structure in place now, footballing people in place to run it.
I think RA is a very intelligent man. I don't think it's conviction, personally, i think its a man looking for a way out. And how could you blame after this campaign.
5.) 13 May 2025 06:50:33
angel
That is how you see it, but remind me what did you say about ETH last summer, and about Ole. Genuinely interested because I don’t generally keep tabs on what people say.
Amorim is one of the best young coaches in Europe, is extremely highly thought of. You can’t see conviction, I can, it’s there in front of you. He has stuck by his playing principles even when media, ex players and social media is telling him to change.
I also don’t think he is looking for a way out as you put it. He is taking a chance by challenging his employers but he looks to me like he is doing what Mourinho didn’t, not accepting the status quo of Glazernomics, not accepting third or fourth best players, and I suspect he wants rid of some key disrupters as well. Remember the string rumours one of the Glazers refused to let Martial go. He may well jack it in in certain circumstances, he looks a man of principle and that is why he should be manager. He will be far more sought after than any of our previous managers.
This summer and window is the watershed. I just wish the Qataris had bought the club and rid us of the Glazers for ever. Party time the day we get rid of them.
6.) 13 May 2025 07:18:42
Red man, with Ole, I thought he was out of his depth, love him as a man, he seems extremely nice. Very happy to see him do a job at Besiktas but United was too big for him.
With ETH I could see what he was trying to do, technically a very good coach, I was as happy to see him given the time, though he actually played very good football at the start of the year but he had no CF and was on a hiding to nothing given the fact that his job was being put out to every tom, dick and harry in the summer. A complete lack of disrespect from the managing team.
I believe he has conviction but in this, I think he might be looking at the door slightly and I don't blame him. The last time we beat a team that is going to be in the premier league next season, it was against Fulham. I think ETH left with 2.2 points per game, RA is on 0.95.
This is a top class coach according to many on here, including yourself. i'm sure he is a good coach but maybe not the right man in this scenario. I don't know, but we will find out.
7.) 13 May 2025 08:48:14
When's the last time a top flight manager resigned? No compensation. Maybe if by mutual consent.
8.) 13 May 2025 09:25:49
Spenno
Money isn’t everything, people resign roles on principle regardless of money.
9.) 13 May 2025 09:35:19
Ok Red, without Google, name the last Premier league manager who resigned of his own accord without holding out for £10m compensation.
10.) 13 May 2025 09:51:17
You don’t bring a manager in to play a specific way then not bring in players to suit that style.
I would think with barrarda they would take note of what city did with pep, his first year was poor, they won the title a season or so before he took over
Seen half the squad wasn’t fit for his way and got rid of those who didn’t for players who could.
This season was always going to be a right off the day they got rid of ten hag after spending over 200 million on players in the summer for him.
Everyone needs to relax and let the guy have some time a proper pre season and see what the people above give him in the summer.
Why would you want to change the way you want to play to suit a squad that has been terrible playing 4 3 3, 4-2-3-1 even 4-2-2-2 under ralf.
Amorim said himself when he joined we are going to suffer now and be better for it later on.
We all would have taken a europa final spot when ten had was sacked. We didn’t win a game in it untill Amorim came in.
Prem form has been a disaster but it’s been coming for years.
Hopefully it’s the wake up call needed and they are as ruthless with the same bunch of players that have been crap for multiple managers as they were with the office staff and dinner staff.
Ineos first proper summer window.
I couldn’t really care if we lose both our last 2 games finishing 17th should humble a lot at the club.
11.) 13 May 2025 10:17:33
Curbishley maybe? But that was a long time ago!
12.) 13 May 2025 10:36:17
Jurgen Klopp.
13.) 13 May 2025 10:40:12
RA has been giving clear messages all year. I think he was genuinely shocked at how poorly constructed the squad is. I mean we don't have a single forward of note. Only Amad and Bruno would count but they play a lot on the wing and CM. I think it's to his credit that he has persisted in the interests of best preparing the players for next season. But there's no doubt he needs a CM and at least two forwards - and that each of them needs to be quality players. While others criticize xG and other metrics I should point out that our base line performance last year was similar to this. We got lucky last minute goals last year that we didn't this year, but more importantly we are improving on all but results. Those generally do end up aligning.
14.) 13 May 2025 11:48:21
redman
You talk crazy. He will be there until they tell him off you go son. He will get sacked and not good enough at this level.
15.) 13 May 2025 12:27:51
It’s also worrying when he said about the players don’t get angry when they lose
It’s like they just accept it, they don’t care they still get paid
The mentality of some of these players is shocking.
Like when shaw a few years ago come out and said they lack motivation because they can’t win anything
That alone should have been him out the door
Should never accept losing but it’s clear some don’t give a crap.
They are also fortunate that we haven’t started booing them again in games or brought out the banners.
16.) 14 May 2025 03:09:00
No one walks in this day and age and why would they… principles in 2025 are thing of the past and in football even more so…it’s not like normal life, get sacked because not good at your job, then have 10 clubs wanting to sign you for a job your no good at. only in football and politicians does that happen.
07 May 2025 09:50:00
If we are offered the reported £120M from Saudi for Bruno, a player 30 going on 31 would you sell?
Me, I think it's a no brainer, sell given his age.
1.) 07 May 2025 11:09:52
i would tend to agree Red Man but we would need to replace him with someone who would give us a similar return and given our current standing, especially if we don't secure champions league football, who would be available of that quality and want to join us?
2.) 07 May 2025 11:54:39
I’d sell him at 23.
3.) 07 May 2025 15:50:14
Red man. You wanted rid of him for ages.
4.) 07 May 2025 15:50:27
Why gnev?
5.) 07 May 2025 16:40:15
Wiggy.
I think Bruno gives us some massive spare cash to spend, someone said if we got £120 million it would equate to £80 million to spend. If we also managed to get £40 million for Rashford that could give us £360 million to spend that could be spread over any new contracts for players.
Would that be enough for Wharton, Delap, Gyorkes and maybe Cherki?
We may then get money from sales of Malacia, Sancho and Antony and also the saves wages of all players including Lindelof, Heaton and any youngsters we are releasing.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of PSR, but from what I do know it can be done.
Anyone with more knowledge let me know.
6.) 07 May 2025 17:36:58
angelred
Early in the season, based on how Bruno was playing, the histrionics, especially giving the ball away in many dangerous positions, I said I would sell him. I also said a few weeks ago that he had notably improved in both aspects, credit to RA.
The question is whether £120m of pure profit, which Tumble indicated it would be, for a player who will be 31 in September, is a good decision.
Personally even though there has been an improvement, I think it’s right to sell if that is the price. Rather than selling our young players.
7.) 07 May 2025 17:42:02
I think it's clear we need to raise profitable sales. We still have to pay our instalments for martinez rasmus casimero Anthony and a couple of others onana I think before we spend anything on new players this summer.
So we need to raise funds that generate 100% profit.
Rash Shaw bruno dalot mainoo garnacho maguire and any academy graduates fall into that category. At least 2 mabe 3 of those need to be sold.
I've no greater affiliation to a united player that came through the academy than I have for players purchased. All are simply assets. Tough calls need to be made and those calls will be made. Having cl income would change that scenario a bit perhaps.
8.) 07 May 2025 17:47:04
I think it will be his choice. And that with next year being a world cup year, he’ll stay in the limelight of the prem.
9.) 07 May 2025 19:01:48
Agree spenno if we will el he will stay for sure and he is playing so well under RA i would be happy for him to stay another season do well and get same money in 12 months time.
10.) 07 May 2025 19:45:59
Money to reinvest angel. He wouldn’t be the first i would want rid of but none of these are indispensable imo.
11.) 07 May 2025 21:10:15
Anyone recall the scouser selling Coutinho and also Suarez. Didn't work out bad did it?
And at £0 book value, as of the end of his original deal before resigning with bush that's £600m of amortised spend.
As good as Bruno is figures wise, we overly dependent on his decision naming which is often suboptimal.
The serious issue is how well would we now spend such a war chest. I'm not convinced we would do it wisely enough, and I kind of like the new mentality of needing value and not splashing money everywhere, it's not worked, ever!
12.) 07 May 2025 21:50:04
If we had anyone half as good creatively I would say no to the sake but we don't even have such a player. We need to buy another creative player (Cuenha? ) to share the creative burden with Bruno. If Bruno goes who is there of his class that will sign for us? The very best players now all want champions league and the potential to win the domestic leagues. We are miles away from the latter and may not even get into the champions league. Also what will it say about the ambition of the club if they sell their best player?
13 Apr 2025 08:01:26
Shappy
Hojland elite and great, words I don’t associate with the player I see.
Then you say “his current skill set is very much suited to playing on the shoulder of the last man and making runs into the channels, using his pace to get away from his man and finishing well past the keeper. ”. That sounds like fantasy description from a computer game to be quite frank. We never see him doing it.
Hojland lacks confidence right now but has glaring inadequacies and we are not seeing improvements. It was said he had a very big ego when he arrived, maybe he reads that it isn’t his fault, just the way he being asked to play, so it’s not him. Oh woe is me the rest of the team are not putting chances on a plate for me. That said they did on Thursday and he totally fluffed it, miss hit it didn’t even put it on target.
Fact is Shappy, Harry came on up front and looked more dangerous in 10 minutes than Hojland looked all season. Even Zirkzee created more space for himself. I think we have to face it that Hojland may not be United standard, the shirt maybe too much and he may do better in a different league.
28 Feb 2025 01:58:27
Bolger
You said ask the Glazers where all the money is from the SJR share purchase. In their bank accounts along with every other cent they made and every other cent from before their father bought the club. They have never put one single cent into the club and are not going to now. The SJR deal brokering cost £30m so the Glazers could pocket over £1Bn, the leeches didn’t even pay that, they stuck it on the club, so the club paid for the transaction. £30m.
28 Feb 2025 01:52:06
shawthing
They are prohibited from taking dividends at the moment because of accounting rules. It is not because the Glazers got all that money from SJR share purchase and feel they don’t need the money.
Question is with SJR cuts to bring the club back to profit, whether, at the first moment when the leeches can take dividends, will they take them and will SJR take them?
05 Jan 2025 13:27:03
Probably years of writing RM in short for me, (whilst having a shout ? at me) that’s in their auto spelling.
29 Oct 2024 06:45:27
People seem to miss that we have a high potential Young athletic left wing back who may benefit from this change of formation, Harry Amass.
23 May 2025 11:25:18
Amz
Anyone who has been made redundant knows what that brings, financially it can be devastating. Even more if you love the job and more again if the employer is who you support as well.
Just a brief view is that the business operation is dealing with the club like a business as it would if it was a manufacturer. The feel good “all in this together as one club” has gone. That may also affect the players as they see it.
Anyone who has seen or been to the Nou Camp will have seen the More than a club sign. It just feels now like United owners, both of them, have lost sight of what the club is, was and how it grew.
23 May 2025 06:53:54
Germansuppclub
You like to quote on past quotes on here, however, above you said “ you wanted SJR you got him, now he is problem too”. You are very very very wrong. I wanted the Sheikh, made that very clear on here. I called SJR the rat for enabling the Glazers to stay.
If you seriously don’t think the Glazers have done serious damage to this club then business wise you are clueless. The debts have been a millstone round our necks for over 20 years. We suffer PSR issues and one major issue is the debt costing £60m a year to service.
You said the Glazers gave ETH money, clueless. The Glazers have not put one cent into the club, not one. The club gave ETH money whilst those slithering leeches have made Billions. I have been consistently anti Glazer since they arrived because I understood the financial implications of the transaction. I have said the same since I came on here 15 years ago. You need to better understand what they have done.
22 May 2025 22:33:08
baker
I am with Brad, if you believe in yourself and are sufficiently financially stable, know you will get another role then there is a level of comfort you can be very straight with where you are, what you think and are not afraid to say it. You have the inner comfort of knowing you can walk away if it doesn’t suit you. Money, salary is a hygiene factor not a motivator.
As to why he might want to stay. He believes in his expertise, special expertise and I don’t believe he thinks this is too big for him. He believes in his experience and is now saying back me now. He doesn’t want to get to October and have what they did to ETH happen. Let’s have it clear now, we are in fully or not. I understand that and change management, of which this is an extreme example, demands that unwavering support or it won’t work.
17 May 2025 12:58:03
Banjoe
No manager or Head Coach can win games when we score zero and have no forwards who can score. We spent two years struggling to score, now it has come home to roost. Whoever made the decision to keep ETH and spend as they did last summer is where the fault lies for this season. Looks like a few don’t get that this is what pain and open heart surgery looks like and summer is part of it and needs to be strong. If you want short termism bring in Sean Dyche, win a few games. Then realise we still need a major change.
17 May 2025 11:28:44
Brum boi
Amorim must get the players needed including goal scorers in summer, then given time to put things right. The cup final result should be irrelevant to his future if we want to build the club. He came in when we were shocking, the management knowing he wanted to implement a whole new style and the players they had bought were wrong. There will have been a discussion on the impact of the coach change, so if they don’t support him this summer and give him time, then they are quite frankly a bunch of incompetent idiots.