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29 Sep 2025 17:47:29
Whispers are that there has been a meeting today in which the club have defined a style of play which they have told the head coach he is required to play. That is a formation 433.
Who knows if true but if true it's a watershed moment, the club setting a direction is one point but what does it mean if they replace RA? Will the new incumbent be told to play 433? Does it rule out Glasner? Will RA resign if told how to play? Is any of this true?
Rumour site so there you go.
1.) 29 Sep 2025 18:29:07
I can't imagine it's true, it would be a ridiculously dangerous and stupid thing to do.
It's one thing to say the team needs to play a front foot, attacking style of play. And completely another to dictate to a coach/ manager what formation the team have to play. What next which players have to start?
You hire a manager to manage the team, it is down to them how they set their team up, ultimately they will live and die by the results they get.
We have ended up in the almighty mess we find ourselves in by having unqualified people making decisions about which they know very little, certainly not their area of expertise. It would be a shame after all the good work rebuilding the club structure behind the scenes only to start repeating the mistakes of the past.
{Ed025's Note - "it would be a shame after all the good work rebuilding the club structure" ?...when did that good work actually happen Shappy...i must have missed that..
2.) 29 Sep 2025 19:07:41
Interview with Glasner where he speaks about playing the formation he thinks best suits his players. 4-4-2 is his favourite but that doesn’t suit his players at Palace. Speaks very well about formation.
3.) 29 Sep 2025 21:38:40
It sounds plausible.
INEOS came in very strong with Game Model and committing to the club having an identity and style down to youth teams. That went quite with Amorim and the youth have remained successful without 3421.
It makes a lot of sense and means the players signed are for the club not the coach.
Shappy you’re coming across like a contrarian. What Redman says makes aligns with how many clubs operate.
4.) 30 Sep 2025 06:42:03
they would be incompetent if they allow this to continue. amorim is a fraud with nice words. get rid.
5.) 30 Sep 2025 08:53:35
Guessing you’ve seen the post from IndyKaila News on X.
Let’s hope he changes to a 433 but, given Amorim said he wouldn’t even change for the Pope, seems highly unlikely.
Results must improve though, otherwise his exit will be inevitable.
6.) 30 Sep 2025 09:24:18
Personally it feels like the narrative surrounding Amorim has changed, and a new manager will be in place soon. I have a feeling Liverpool will be his last game with a new manager starting after that as there is a decent run of games until new year.
7.) 30 Sep 2025 14:33:17
It feels like there is growing downward pressure on Amorim. While the directors will be reluctant to sack him, and admit they made a huge mistake, they also realise that things can’t continue like this. I wouldn’t be surprised to see interference with coaching decisions, or strong nudges towards a different play style.
However, if Amorim has proven anything, it’s that he’s stubbornly committed to playing his way. It might be a case that he would rather resign than change. But being a head coach, there is also scope for the directors to force his hand. Will be interesting to see how this eventually plays out. Regardless, I can’t see him still in the job by the end of the year.
8.) 30 Sep 2025 20:42:24
What I don’t understand is why are the youth teams still playing 433 and 4231 if the hierarchy hired Amorim to play this 3421.
Seems to me the structure isn’t aligned through the club which is another balls up.
9.) 30 Sep 2025 23:54:20
Or if that rumour is true could the club be trying to save £12m by getting RA to resign instead of being sacked?
10.) 01 Oct 2025 19:38:01
Why would anybody resign and walk away from £12m.
11.) 02 Oct 2025 22:08:49
Did RA not say he would just that, Eric? Or words to that effect at least.
12.) 03 Oct 2025 04:30:27
That’s his problem he is just words!
He says things and then blames it on emotion, in the heat of the moment crap
Great talk the talk man, but that’s all he got
Talks a good game.
06 Aug 2025 17:36:29
Baleba
One or two noises saying he is our next target. Will be interesting to see, certainly looks a powerful central midfield player.
1.) 06 Aug 2025 17:51:34
He'd be the ideal signing, but I cannot see how we could possibly afford him given Brighton will demand around 100m for him.
2.) 06 Aug 2025 18:05:17
Have to say Mainoo and Baleba in a double pivot midfield looks an excellent prospect, I know we are spreading payments a lot, but there cannot be enough left to get Baleba as well.
3.) 06 Aug 2025 18:19:00
Big big money there redman.
A lot of people would have him as their 1st choice. Super player. Would be a great signing but I just can't see it happening this summer.
Who can we get with our budget? Tough position to fill well on a budget just got to hope we get someone. Cas just slow and can't compete in epl.
Mainoo has a lot to prove.
Ugarte is very poor on the ball.
Collyer is miles off the pace and loan will do him good as I don't think he has a long term future.
Wharton would be a great option also but no interest shown in him by the club in don't think he is for sale.
4.) 06 Aug 2025 19:18:08
Fabrizio now confirm we have made an approach but it is a difficult deal.
Who lit a fire underneath our transfer department.
5.) 06 Aug 2025 19:26:12
Could we use any players in a potential deal? It would be a serious window if they pulled this off.
6.) 06 Aug 2025 19:30:50
Baleba is the real deal
Eats the ground for fun. Ideal player to set the attackers free.
7.) 06 Aug 2025 19:58:07
Even more reporting it now - even Ornstein and Romano. €100m asking price (£87m) so that suggests there’s a deal to be had around £80m.
For me, this is the ‘sales funding a further purchase deal’. Cunha’s initial payment went on the 24/ 25 accounts and I believe we had around £60m to spend this summer: £20m on the first down payment for Mbeumo and £40m on the first down payment on Sesko.
Let’s see if we can sell the likes of Malacia, Antony, Garnacho, Sancho and maybe even Casemiro and Hojlund.
Baleba on top of the others in so far gets us top 6 comfortably.
{Ed025's Note - really Downsie?, unless you address the keeper situation , the lack of quality defenders and the gaping hole in midfield i would say 10th would be the best you can accomplish this season mate..
8.) 06 Aug 2025 19:59:54
Just can't see it happening, suspect its laying the foundations for next summer window as statement of intent and get the player dreaming of turning out for us.
A couple of rumours he has said yes and hopes Brighton will open talks at least, possible loan and obligation to buy to meet FFP.
I am doubtful but you can't say Ineos are being shy of a challenge now in recruitment.
Possibly also a positioning strategy to see if Atlanta get realistic about Ederson or perhaps even Sporting and Hjolmund.
I still. expect us to settle for eother Ndidi as a stop gap or Luiz on loan. Gone very quiet on the Nmecha front but don't write that deal off either as Utd and Vivell really rate him as does Wllcox.
9.) 06 Aug 2025 20:23:32
Maybe if we sell Garnacho, Antony and Sancho. I hope we sign someone in the midfield and then get Baleba the next summer.
10.) 06 Aug 2025 20:43:08
Ed025 - lack of quality defenders? Yoro walks into any side in the PL bar perhaps Arsenal and De Ligt is criminally underrated. Add Licha and Heaven into the mix - only one game per week remember.
Yoro De Ligt Heaven
Amad Fernandes/ Mainoo Baleba Dorgu
Mbeumo Sesko Cunha
Is comfortably the best United side post-Fergie.
{Ed025's Note - bit early to tell with Yoro Downsie but he looks the best of a very bad bunch for me mate. De ligt is absolutely S**** and Heaven has hardly pulled up any trees but at least he does have scope to improve, Martinez is a joke and Harry is well...Harry, Bruno is your only decent Midfielder and the rest dont get in any top 10 team, Mbeumo looks very good and Cunha definitely improves you and if you do get Sesko..(big IF) your attack could look very impressive, the problem is though that you may have to score 4 to get a point with that defence and especially that guy you call a keeper, sorry to be so blunt and of course this is only my opinion but i do like United and respect them as a great club, but its no use me telling lies or even making outrageous statements like they could easily make top 6, thats just pie in the sky and i think we all know it my friend..
11.) 06 Aug 2025 21:17:53
Zero chance of this happening. Unfortunately. Brighton don’t want to sell, and will set a crazy high price.
The young lad at Middlesbrough could be a good buy. Around £20m.
12.) 06 Aug 2025 21:46:03
Baleba, I would need to huy a lot more tissues if we got him this summer.
13.) 06 Aug 2025 22:12:33
Ed025, you sound exactly like germansuppclub
could it be? .
{Ed025's Note - no rkc, i talk sense mate.. :)
14.) 07 Aug 2025 06:42:40
Yoro never walks in to any team in the top 4 that’s red tints on full blast…. Yes he is the best of our lot, but that don’t say much (but he could get better along the way being only young and got some pace) when most of them are very poor and not at the level required especially Deligt, Martinez, McGuire I would even add Dalot to the not good enough along with Shaw and only one I would keep is Maz, not because he is great but he can play a few positions so ideal in the squad. All GKs are waste of space, add our poor midfield to that, Ugarte diabolical Mainoo, no mobility or pace Cass now past it for the EPL, we have a dreadful Midfield and defence and GK, so top 4 is just not reality Top 6 is whilst not impossible it’s red tints viewing!
15.) 07 Aug 2025 10:29:14
You know what German, every fan wears their teams tinted glasses. And why not?! Football is about supporting a team against the world. Arsenal fans every year think they’ll win the league and are the best team in the league, Newcastle fans think they’re in with the big 6, Liverpool fans think they’re the biggest club in England having won 2 titles in 30+ years, we think we’re the best despite a decade without the title, City fans think they’re the greatest team ever to play football. Who cares?! It’s what supporting a team is. I genuinely don’t know what you get out of supporting United, if in deed you actually do?!
I don’t mind fans having an opinion but when they speak like their points are factually true, the arrogance of a nobody on a fans forum amazes me and makes it all a little less enjoyable.
16.) 07 Aug 2025 13:29:22
Relax Ports, he just has his black tints on all the time ?.
17.) 07 Aug 2025 14:29:43
Frankly some people just never seem satisfied. Its not FM, you can't change 18 years of incompetence in 2 years. We did great business last summer for defenders. We are doing great business this summer for attack. Next summer we will go big again on the midfield with proper attitude and ability to fit the team style of play which is now crystal clear.
Cup half empty is just a ridiculous mindset. Go back and look at all the negativity even after we signed cunha on we are still inept
, why so long for Mbuemo, you'd have killed at that point for 2 more top quality signings that are also long term buys, so why not see where we are at once the window closes. I do think we will bring in a Gk and a midfielder, just not the perfect ones unless we can shift all our flotsam and get another maybe like Hojlund or even Greenwood sell in clause come i to play. At least the front 3 are exciting and the defence is well stocked at least u til next window. Be happy with what we have done, its called progress and moving in the right direction. How are all posters not delighted with that. And sorry German, I've been reading your posts for a year now and if we won the treble i'm convinced you'd be moaning we didn't try winning the Stanley Cup or Wimbledon. Pure gaslighted with zero joy in theor soul. Even during the Fergie era we signed some utter donkeys. Transfers are always a risk, hence the most successful manager in our history was extremely fortunate we had 7 academy stars for a decade with one or two great buys. Even during his tenure we never had a GK come through and only Gary Neville, with possibly a good all round squad player in Phil as a top player, wes Brown, john o'shea good squad players but we had to buy Evra, Vidic, Bruce Pallister, Ferdinando, Schmeichel, Van Der Sar, its nowhere near as easy to deliver results as it is to criticise the lack of them.
We've been a shambles for years but the last window was okay despite the incompetence of ETH judgment on players and we backed him, now we are backing Amorim but surely anyone can see that Amorim has a very clear grasp on the ability, skills, player profiles and the mentality and cultural fits that make his system work. Finally, someone with clarity at manager level, who won't take any rubbish, and isn't afraid of confrontation or change of bad behaviours and is being careful who they buy along with a great approach to recruitment. Its never going to be perfect but if 2 out of 3 of these attackers come good, its a huge improvement.
18.) 07 Aug 2025 08:27:21
Actually seems the opposite of talking sense.
19.) 08 Aug 2025 01:11:39
Bollocks, German. Yoro walks into any team. Best defender I've seen since Rio.
20.) 08 Aug 2025 06:24:16
No need to make inflammatory remarks noucamp, but you are really making it up as you go along, if you really believe that Yoro walks into any team, that’s just laughable and deluded.
30 Jun 2025 13:08:18
Rumours say 14-year-old wonderkid JJ Gabriel has committed his future to us following a crucial intervention from Jason Wilcox and director of football negotiations Matt Hargreaves
Great news if true.
1.) 30 Jun 2025 17:29:33
That is correct Redman, he has committed his future to us and as you rightly point out Jason Wilcox and Matt Hargreaves played a huge part in it.
I know someone at the academy and was told a little while back that the likelihood was he would leave this summer, with every major club in Europe desperately trying to sign him.
I saw his debut for U18s, just a kid, yet he scored his first goal within minutes of coming on. Indeed he has made 3 U18s appearances and played a total of 71 mins and scored 3 goals, one every 24 mins!
The club are very, very keen to try and keep him under the radar as much as possible as they, rightly, do not want to overload him with expectation levels at his age. Indeed, it was noticeable when he came on for his debut that the T. V. commentators did not big him up at all, in fact they just said his name, clearly they did this under order's from above!
One word of caution, he will have another option to leave upon his 16th birthday, so hopefully all goes well for him in the interim. Think he may well be in U18s squad on a regular basis from now on. Whilst he is a phenomenal prospect we all know the number's of youngster's who turn potential into achievement is pretty low so very much finger's crossed for the long term.
One other rated academy prospect 16 yr old Jayden Ngwashi has also agreed a 4 year contract, again despite numerous other offers.
Has to be recognised that the work from Ineos over last 12 mths is the reason he has stayed, the signings made and also the clear opportunities being given into the first team squad.
Not only Diego Leon arriving tomorrow, but also another very highly rated youngster Enzo Kana-Biyik an 18 year old centre forward whose contract with Le Havre is expiring today, again chose us despite others very keen to sign him. It's expected he will be going out on loan to FC Lausanne.
Finally, Jonny Evans has today been appointed as Head of Loans and Pathways, helping to progress the careers of the club's young player's.
The future is bright, it's not orange, it's most definitely RED.
2.) 01 Jul 2025 16:28:27
While it is good to see so many prospects, I doubt we will ever see the number come through like 92. If we get 1 or 2 that turn into regular first team players that is a great return on the investment.
3.) 01 Jul 2025 23:21:35
You may well be right Grim, but what made the CO92 so memorable was the fact they all came through at the same time. How many breakthroughs were there the previous 5 years? or the 10 years after after them?
With what we have building in the academy I can certainly see a fairly steady stream of prospects coming through. There is a very clear strategy of investment in top young talent, with the fingerprints of Jason Wilcox all over it.
It should also be remembered that a big objective of this strategy is to produce players who can be sold in the £15m-£20m range, obviously to provide additional funds for investment in the first team squad. Very effective if it can be achieved.
13 Jun 2025 06:36:56
The other day i saw that Munro, a youth centre half who impressed the one time I saw him, had signed his first pro deal. Add to that yesterday, United signed Harley Emsden-James, 16, from Southamptons academy.
We will pay Southampton a £1million compensation fee with a 20 per cent sell-on clause.
Emsden-James is a centre-back said to have physical skills with technical ability on the ball, he could potentially develop into an all-round centre-back with leadership skills.
1.) 13 Jun 2025 07:56:31
Great to see us building from within. Personally think quite a few from the youth setup will get opportunity this season.
2.) 13 Jun 2025 09:20:19
Despite all the rubbish that has been going on at the club at senior football level, we certainly seem to be doing well in the youth area. If we can get one youth player regularly in the squad each year and give out a few debuts, we are doing well as a club and I do think it's important to keep the tradition and record of over 4000 games with a youth product in the first team match squad. Sadly they won't all make it at United, but if we can help them get good solid careers in the game then the academy is doing it's job.
I'd be delighted if in 5 years time we had a starting 11 with Heaven, Kukonki, and Emsden-James as defensive options alongside Yoro in the squad, Mantato, Lacey, Ibragimov, Martins in the squad too. Unheard of now but that would be brilliant.
05 Jan 2025 13:24:00
Make of it what you will, but Garnacho has deleted his Twitter account this morning.
1.) 05 Jan 2025 13:50:05
I would imagine he's been advised to do so to prevent him from digging his hole any deeper - he does have rather a dim bulb.
2.) 05 Jan 2025 19:35:49
And he stopped coloring his hair, he probably wants to become a footballer again ?.
3.) 05 Jan 2025 20:18:43
He’s also got an assist at Anfield more importantly.
4.) 05 Jan 2025 22:17:57
Garnacho has the talent, but it's whether he has the mentality to make it. He's made some poor decisions and shown his childish tendencies a little too often.
It's harsh, but when you play for Manchester United you have to grow up fast or you'll fade away.
I think he needs better people around him advising him, as many of his faux pas could have easily been avoided if he listened to some sound advice.
I've said previously that he doesn't have a natural spot in this Amorim system based on what he's shown himself to be as a footballer so far. He will need to get his head down (figuratively speaking, on the pitch however he needs to lift his head up) and round out his game. The only place for him is in one of those No.10 roles, but he needs to be more like Messi than Ronaldo I that position. He needs to be creative, hard working and a team player. He needs to learn to link with his team mates better, play for them.
If he does that then he'll become a top player, if not then he'll be gone within two years and risks becoming another Januzaj.
I thought he looked a better today against Liverpool, he played the assist to Amad rather than smash the ball at goal from a tight angle. That was a good decision and showed what he can do if he lifts his head and looks for his teammates.
5.) 06 Jan 2025 06:18:50
Good on him.
He looks a shadow of himself on the pitch at the moment. I hope it's a "full focus on football" type of choice.
If I were a professional footballer, i'd have no social media whatsoever.
6.) 07 Jan 2025 02:26:51
Liverpool fan in peace here and I think it is a good sign that Garnacho has deleted his social media accounts. I always found him to be a good prospect for you lot but he seems to have lost his way a bit since the start of the season. It didn't help that the fans and media were building him up to be the main man in the team, which understandably contributed to him developing a bit of a big head. Hopefully this is a sign that he is putting his head down and is working hard on himself again.
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30 Apr 2026 13:45:24
I believe this is a post on that X Twitter place and worth sharing.
We really need to consider the situation very carefully. Surely Burnley would be beating a path to Carrick's door, yet are supposedly looking at Gerrard and Bellamy.
“The Downfall of Carrick’s Middlesbrough team collapse moments;
• Inconsistency across a long season
• Defensive fragility
• Tactically not adaptable
• Inconsistency across a long season;
Middlesbrough could look good for a couple of games then go on a long stretches of poor performances and dropping points.
• Defensive fragility;
Defensive structure and transitions has recurring concerns, especially when games become chaotic and fast paced. Carrick team tends to: leaves spaces between midfield and defense, vulnerability in defensive transitions and inability to close games cleanly.
• Tactically not adaptable;
When opponents disrupt rhythm, press aggressively, or sit compact, (like Leeds and Newcastle) Carrick looked lost and has no plan B to change the game. ”.
1.) 30 Apr 2026 16:43:30
Yep, big red flag against Carrick that Burnley don't want him. In future, we should cross reference every managerial appointment and player signing with JJ Watt to see if he approves of it.
2.) 30 Apr 2026 17:37:38
Nothing about the fact that Boro sold a lot of their best players?
Selling Spence, Tavernier, Akpom, Archer, Ramsay and not subsequently replacing them might have played a part in his so-called downfall.
Red man, we get it, you don't want him, and I'm not saying he is 'The Man', but he has earned the right for his name to be discussed.
He has done a remarkable job since coming in, and sits at the top of the form chart.
Who do you see as better and more available, by the way? Who do you want?
3.) 30 Apr 2026 18:49:08
People are losing their minds, yes, consider Carrick, but seriously he has had 13 games where we haven't seen a step change in performance. Will people please wake up. Too many are showing an emotional response.
Angel
A long list in front of Carrick. The club needs to conduct a non-emotional process reviewing skill set.
I cannot believe people post there is no one else, only Carrick, yet cannot see how ridiculous that comment is. There are plenty of far more experienced managers with vision. Fed up with keep posting lists tbh.
4.) 30 Apr 2026 19:06:32
Red Man, you're the one who keeps banging on about this over and over again. The club are clearly conducting a non-emotional process because they'd have made his position permanent by now based on results and position in the table.
9 out of 13, and the most points in the Premier League since his appointment, is hard to ignore, yet they have not made any moves. You're winding yourself up and blaming others. ?
5.) 30 Apr 2026 20:11:25
Red Man, can you give me the long list please?
6.) 30 Apr 2026 20:11:56
Ports, couldn't agree more with all of that.
He's doing it to himself.
7.) 30 Apr 2026 21:18:01
Angel,
RTFP
Ports,
Wow, did well as a temp, wow, 9 wins, let's rush to put him in full time.
8.) 30 Apr 2026 21:58:58
Red Man, RTFP ? They're not rushing despite results. I'm not sure you even know what you're getting wound up about now. ?
9.) 30 Apr 2026 22:04:52
Jeez Red Man, this is becoming an obsession for you. I find Carrick underwhelming, but who is on your long list?
10.) 30 Apr 2026 22:05:18
I am also keen to understand who is in this long list of available and suitably experienced managers with vision.
Then, we can genuinely debate the merits of each.
I have no preference at this moment in time until we know who is realistically available.
It may well be that Carrick is genuinely the best available from the pool and who wants to be at United.
11.) 30 Apr 2026 22:06:43
The same people who want Carrick, wanted Ole. Says it all, really.
12.) 30 Apr 2026 22:20:14
Who said they want Carrick in this thread, Sepp?
13.) 30 Apr 2026 22:30:51
Carrick has done a great job getting the club back on track, but to put this simply, if Carrick had no ties to utd, and the decision makers are looking for the next Manchester United manager, would Carrick be on the list? I'm pretty sure the answer would be no.
14.) 30 Apr 2026 23:21:51
If whoever that person was came in with the club struggling, and won 9 out of 13, and got us comfortably into the CL places with 4 games to go, then yes, they would 100% be considered.
15.) 01 May 2026 07:00:53
Carrick of West Ham heritage with no United ties would not get the job.
I keep seeing the word 'considered'. Yep. Consider the temp: anyone who has managed teams will have done that, but for the biggest job in world football, people are losing their heads because of emotion.
Given names before, so read what I wrote. Iraola was one on the list. Would also say Brighton's manager is worth looking at, too.
But those who want the emotional ride with Carrick will only dismiss anyone else, or set a ridiculous level, e.g., only Enrique above Carrick. Or say no one is interested. What? The biggest job in world football, not interested? There will be a queue.
My only hope is that the ownership is less emotionally driven than the fan base.
16.) 01 May 2026 10:15:37
One thing's for sure, RM. We will trust the footballing guys in the positions over some mad rants on here.
17.) 01 May 2026 13:52:22
Angel
The ones who gave ETH an extension, then sacked him 2 months later... those footballing guys?
18.) 01 May 2026 16:35:31
Still waiting for this long list, Red Man. I'm not sold on Carrick, but I don't see a long list of great candidates either.
19 Apr 2026 10:30:46
Lucky, belligerent performance, scraping 3 points but I want to look at three different stories.
Garnacho.
Well done to Amorim, plus the negotiators who got £40m. He had talent, outstanding talent when younger, some carry on and become great, some just don't develop. It can go wrong, look no further than Ravel Morrison or Mason Greenwood, it happens. Amorim spotted the wrong attitude and clearly saw a fall in standards, was decisive and got rid. I watched a young Garnacho but talent alone isn't enough. His attitude stank, now it is stinking out London. How telling none of his ex teammates went to him at the end of the game, that Luke Shaw posted a picture of his pushing Garnacho on the floor. Good riddance
Cunha
Brazilian with a tough street fighter attitude. He gets it, he is all in, love his attitude. A really good buy after all the mistakes of the last decade. Isn't it interesting, players bought during Amorims short reign have done so well.
Heaven
The £1m, an absolute snip. Applause for whoever did that deal. I have long said Heaven looks a player to me. Yes, have to watch the same thing that happened to Garnacho doesn't happen to him. Carrick hasn't played him, a huge error for me, then in an emergency he comes in last night. 19 and looks every bit the part. Yes, it could go wrong, but looks like a young Rio to me. Can pass with that left foot and I saw he won every single aerial battle. Deserves to keep his place. Not even 20 until Sept. Someone who could become a very good player indeed, future of England level. Next couple of years will tell us, see how he develops but he has potential to be wow.
1.) 19 Apr 2026 11:27:56
Agree with all of that, Red Man.
2.) 19 Apr 2026 12:30:07
Only saw the hls, unfortunately, but happy to see Heaven get the start. Long been a believer in his ability. Hope he nails that spot. And here's hoping we get a run going and finish third, and not just target CL qualification.
3.) 19 Apr 2026 12:49:33
Absolutely, Red Man. Hearing Carrick talk of reintegrating Rashford utterly depresses me.
Bringing it back to the game: I feel we're in the inverse of Amorim now. Performance levels are dropping, but we're getting results. As I've harped on about enough here, those performance metrics are much better predictors of long term results. Unfortunately, too many are short termist and I am fearful that Carrick gets the full-time gig.
There are really good alternatives - Nagelsman, Hoeness, Iraola, (optimistically) Enrique - and I hope those in charge don't share the short termism.
The foundations are there now in multiple positions, and we're in a much better position now than we've been for years.
4.) 19 Apr 2026 14:06:53
Don't forget Mainoo, Red Man. Man of the match last night.
As part of Amorim's short reign, he wouldn't play him. ???
5.) 19 Apr 2026 14:08:02
Can't disagree except to say that whatever one thinks of Mason Greenwood he does seem to have successfully resurrected both his career and his private life with the woman he allegedly abused.
6.) 19 Apr 2026 16:44:40
Newnameoldideas, how dare you suggest a person might actually regret doing something and try to make amends.
Seriously, if Greenwood really has changed, he should be applauded and held up as a role model for younger, impressionable kids.
7.) 19 Apr 2026 18:06:47
angel
Mainoo did ok, but whilst I know it suits your argument, he wasn't MOM, was he?
We couldn't control the game through midfield at all, so I am yet to be convinced that Amorim wasn't right about him. He plays a certain way, and Mainoo has talent, but I don't think he is a strong CM, more of a semi 10.
8.) 19 Apr 2026 18:35:53
He was MOM, and as one of his critics, it was a joy to finally watch him dictate a game. He still needs to cover more ground for me, but let's judge with a better team around him.
9.) 19 Apr 2026 18:43:39
The fans rating in the Beebs Sport site had Mainoo ranked second to Bruno. I've been critical of him lately, but he was excellent yesterday, as was Bruno. Kobe is able to turn in tight situations and find the simple pass, and when he plays well, he's like the oil that keeps the engine running.
Amorim was wrong about Mainoo, and he was wrong to play Bruno as a CM. Those 2 changes have had a huge impact on our play.
10.) 19 Apr 2026 18:34:48
A role model for how to batter your missus and get away with it? Or is this sarcasm?
11.) 19 Apr 2026 21:02:18
Bruno was the official MOM.
12.) 19 Apr 2026 21:25:41
He was Red Man. imo Mainoo was our best player by quite some distance. Heaven and Maz also were good. Dalot and Shaw did the defensive part of their job well, in the main.
As a team, I think we only had 1 shot on target or something like that. So imo any creative players from yesterday should not be getting a MOM.
13.) 19 Apr 2026 22:32:26
For the clean sheet, I would have given it to a defender. Heaven would have been mine.
14 Apr 2026 06:57:12
Simply, Michael Carrick was a coward last night. He set us up using Steve Holland “Southgate” tactics, slow slow slow don’t lose the ball, at home against a lively relegation candidate. Shocking! Team selection negative with Ugarte, lack of drive after a supposed important camp in Ireland. Then Carrick dithered. There should have been subs when we went 2 down; he hesitated. Half time he dithered. Second half he didn’t know what to do, rabbit in the headlights.
How the same team came out second half was beyond me. Boro manager level doesn’t cut it at Utd, so don’t anyone tell me he should get the perm role. If the club have anything gumption, Steve Holland is gone this morning.
One good thing was that maybe, if SJR and Co have anything about them, is to realise they were seeing how Southgate United would look with Steve Holland in the background and run a mile.
1.) 14 Apr 2026 07:51:06
I was absolutely appalled at what I saw last night, and for the first time in my life, I gave up on a United game before the end. Actually, I gave up at halftime. I've left the live chat here a couple of times due to some 'children' behaving like nobs, but never left a game. And I've been a lifelong supporter and was travelling the country, home and away, before and during the relegation seasons.
To play walkball like that is beyond criminal, and insults our fan base.
A proper slap in the face to those who fund their wages!
We are at home against Leeds of all teams, and walking about as though we don't care. Does this group not understand the feelings of our supporters with regard to Leeds? We are walking about and getting battered at home by relegation fodder, and G Neville says in commentary, "United have to weather the storm here". Really? Disgraceful performance and attitude by the players and coaches.
UCL football? You're having a laugh!
2.) 14 Apr 2026 07:58:11
Shocking performance. Leeds deserved the win.
But got to feel for Paul Tierney's wife if that's considered hair pulling.
3.) 14 Apr 2026 09:28:08
Nothing like an overreaction to a defeat, hey, lads.
4.) 14 Apr 2026 09:42:58
GDS, read the posts! Not all about 'the defeat' but the attitude and lack of any fire. If you think it's ok to lose in that manner, then you need to give your head a wobble.
5.) 14 Apr 2026 09:47:50
A couple of 1000-word essays incoming!
6.) 14 Apr 2026 13:09:42
It's not overreaction to comment on managerial incompetence in tactical set-up, motivation, team selection, and lack of in-game management. Shocking and totally unacceptable last night.
7.) 14 Apr 2026 17:27:00
It was very poor last night, but Red Man, you are over reacting. Fizz, I would say you're over reacting, but it's pretty standard stuff from you at this stage. ?
We are currently third. Carrick has lost 2 games in his tenure. He has done incredibly well given where we were at the start of his tenure and how we had played the 18 months prior to him taking over.
Let's see where we are at the end of the season, or even how we react v Chelsea at the weekend. Lots to play for.
I would've snapped your hand off a few months ago if you told me we would be sitting third with a few games to go.
8.) 15 Apr 2026 07:55:20
Angel, I couldn't care less what you think. Talking "standard stuff", your post is so very predictable. (no laughy cop out).
9.) 15 Apr 2026 12:54:34
Yet here you are replying, and then giving your opinion (sigh). You seem really angry or upset for some reason. My words always seem to trigger you. It's only footballing opinions, come on, Fizz.
It's all very OTT above. Let's see where we are in a few weeks. Big game against Chelsea at the weekend, and hopefully we can get back on track. Carrick has done an incredible job so far.
22 Mar 2026 07:26:47
I am concerned by what was clearly something very wrong with the refereeing on Friday night.
Referee Stuart Attwell and VAR Craig Pawson were the same referee and VAR who wrongfully disallowed Martinez's equaliser against Burnley, another 2.2. The Premier League's Key Match Incidents (KMI) Panel said that Martinez's goal should not have been ruled out by Stuart Attwell.
I understand Friday was Attwell's first game since he disallowed Martinez’ goal at Burnley. (Please correct me on that if I am wrong).
Attwell has officiated 24 matches involving United across all competitions. In those games:
1. He has issued 2 red cards to United players, compared to 0 for opposition players.
2. He has shown 46 yellow cards to United players, against just 8 for opposition players.
The glaring error of not awarding the penalty on Amad cost us the win.
I was sat with an opposition fan who does not like us and he gives us nothing, yet he said it was an absolute stone wall penalty and that we had been done. This looks like incompetence to the point where I actually think we should be worried there is real systemic anti United bias. A letter from the club complaining is a start but on this occasion the decision was so bad in that it should have been a penalty, could have been 2.0 but because of that error became 1.1
I actually believe we should ask for the game to be replayed and Attwell never to referee our games again. Yes it sounds extreme and some if not most will dismiss it, yet the only way we are going to force a change in referring is by addressing such huge errors with drastic action.
1.) 22 Mar 2026 09:02:23
Red Man, he also missed/ignored Walker's stamp on Dorgu in the Burnley game too. I feel like you. You can accept mistakes by refs, but now we have VAR and they still make the same mistake. It's really hard to feel like it's not cheating.
He was so quick to get the red card out as well for Maguire. No time for thought, no discussion with the "assistant referees". Ultimately, I'm not livid with that decision, but the speed of it and ignoring the Amad one just makes zero sense IMO.
I think teams should be allowed to name 3 refs at the start of the season they do not want refereeing their games. I have said for years now that refs should be made to stand in front of the camera after the game and explain their decisions. They're full time, well paid professionals now.
2.) 22 Mar 2026 09:38:56
I might add, I'm not sure about the game being replayed, although I get your point, but I am glad Carrick came out and questioned it. It feels like our last few managers have just accepted poor decisions by refs and let it slide.
We need a manager who's prepared to take a fine, but call it out and put pressure back on refs. Klopp and Guardiola have both done it, and it does make a difference. SAF was the best at it.
3.) 22 Mar 2026 10:42:05
Ports
If you look at the reaction by some commentators and ex Ref Mike Dean, there is a clear bias. It is almost like, you got the decision under SAF, when you get done now, ha, you deserve it. How many referees feel like that?
With Attwell, it has to be said he was poor more than once to the level where you have to ask, are there underlying reasons? On Friday there was clear error, that surely VAR should have corrected, a decision where you can 100% bet if it had been Liverpool or City they would have got the penalty. So there were two errors, the referee and the coward on VAR.
It cost two points. Don't even mention asking where 9 minutes came from!
I rarely rage about referees in posts as much as this, but Friday was unacceptable and I am concerned there is an underlying systemic bias against Utd, highlighted by the 'it's finally retribution' attitude shown afterwards, that needs to be stamped out. We should not have to sacrifice any manager for a fine. Maybe we should take a lead from others and threaten legal recovery action against the PGMOL, especially if we miss Champions League by a point.
4.) 22 Mar 2026 12:16:46
In the Amad one, I think the ref cannot see the contact from his position, Ahmad's body blocking his view. However, for VAR not to intervene is criminal.
The PGMOL need to look into these stats for officials, when dubious decisions and cards lie far outside their norms.
I think most teams have at least one ref who fits this criteria.
5.) 22 Mar 2026 12:21:40
The biggest issue from Friday was the fact VAR said the Amad one was not a penalty, but the Maguire one was. I suspect it was because they scored, but there is really no excuse for such blatant inconsistency.
6.) 22 Mar 2026 15:46:37
I can't agree with replaying games. That would open up a whole can of worms and be farcical.
Yes, crazy decision, and standards are getting worse, but replaying games is nonsense and unrealistic. Where would it end... So do we now go back to the AFCON and replay that farce too?
Sadly, we have to grin and bear it.
That is the reality. I think conspiracy theories are a bit childish, too... they are just not that good a standard, refs are far better in the Champions League. But they also get it wrong, and you would expect VAR to get it right most of the time!
7.) 22 Mar 2026 23:02:30
I think it was as simple as the ref not having the cojones to give two penalties to the away team.
Bottle job.
8.) 23 Mar 2026 07:02:51
Nou,
"The ref"? No, both refs? On-field and VAR?
I think the PGMOL needs to give Utd assurances that the clear anti Utd bias is not going to continue. By that, I am talking about the reaction comments showing clearly what too many are thinking. It's underlying and underpinning the situation. It has to be stamped out. Friday was a disgrace for the referees' body.
9.) 23 Mar 2026 15:09:11
Just to be clear: the Amad decision was probably wrong, and the Maguire decision was most certainly right. The offense was almost identical to the Cunha incident when we were awarded a penalty, except the Bournemouth player would have been through on goal, whereas Cunha was not.
Shirt pulling is ubiquitous, and should be a foul every time. It's completely unnecessary, and it shouldn't even matter if it's impactful or not. The game would be better for it being stamped out.
05 Mar 2026 06:49:13
What we saw last night and increasingly over the last two or three games was Gareth Southgate's England, I suspect tactically driven by Steve Holland. The lack of any drive cannot be fatigue, yet when playing against 10 there was no urgency, no Manchester United way of going at a team, little width or crossing a ball. The Carrick honeymoon is over, he can either continue setting us up like Southgate with Steve Holland in his ear, or be the manager who wants a chance at the job, attack with more energy, urgency. Last night has been coming, same set up over the last two or three and settled into don't lose Southgate football.
Great advert for why Southgate should never ever be considered as well.
1.) 05 Mar 2026 08:00:13
I could have put more energy into that midfield last night and I'm 50 years old. My issue is the same thing as always. The players can do it, they showed it against Arsenal. They hammered City, but the same effort has not been there for the last few games.
Sometimes they just don't show up, regardless of who the manager is. Trippier was racing forward yesterday, with Cunha following at a light jog, and the same with other players.
2.) 05 Mar 2026 08:32:34
Absolutely awful. There is something intrinsically wrong with the attitude in the club. No matter the manager, they revert to walk ball. Don't get me started, re Mainoo. I will bet that if the club decide to offload him, he will insist on his new club having European football.
Yet, whilst the chance is there right now, right in front of him, he can't be bothered to fight for it. Strolls around like an entitled nob!
Watching this dirge sickens me.
3.) 05 Mar 2026 08:42:17
Banjoe, every team could say this. People here have pushed yet again to make things player centred. We saw a clear pattern and improving trajectory under Amorim. It derailed due to AFCON and his feeling of being undermined. But we've thrown away a lot. The results have papered over a clear regression. But the main thing that's clear is we have two ways to reliably progress the ball: Martinez and Bruno.
Amorim had Bruno in CM, and he had no option otherwise. Carrick used Martinez, but with him out, we're clueless. The formation also has to either play Mbeumo out of position or sideline Amad. It's a more defensive set up now. Hopefully Carrick gets a grip of it. Ultimately, I think we're reliant on Licha getting back quickly and Casemiro lighting it up.
4.) 05 Mar 2026 09:04:38
That's a mental frailty the squad has had for years, not a physical one. We simply don't turn up mentally against the "lesser" teams.
The Geordies were excellent last night - energy, aggression, pace, desire. We showed none of that.
5.) 05 Mar 2026 09:30:13
I'm not reading too much into the game.
We've played eight games under Carrick: won six, drawn one, and lost one. Were we realistically going to go unbeaten until the end of the season? Absolutely not. Playing against ten men is always tough, and St James' Park is a difficult place to go at the best of times.
It is what it is. Overall, it's been relatively positive so far. People just tend to read far more into things than they need to, often without any credible basis. Sometimes teams just have bad games - it's happened all season to lots of teams.
Let's just get to the end of the season before making assumptions.
03 May 2026 11:44:14
I think the club need to be professional and conduct a full review. Without any doubt at all, there are many better coaches and managers out there than Carrick. Anyone who thinks there aren't is being disingenuous and extremely short sighted.
I get the warm comfort of having an ex player, steeped in Utd, but this has to be carefully considered. I am openly expressing my concern because I think we would be looking for Carrick's replacement in 12 to 18 months again, when some of the managers have moved on. A lot of changes are coming potentially in summer, so we need to get it right. We can't keep veering off line. What is the exact direction, and values? Are we a club chasing familiarity of the Utd family, continuing to chase what Busby and SAF gave us? Yet we sit here with only 3 Champions Leagues because of our strategy.
We need to think differently. This is 2026, not 1986.
I get the clamour for familiarity, that Utd man steeped in the club, but it's not just Ole that went wrong, it's McGuiness, I've seen both. It's time to change the old record, be decisive with an exciting, innovative manager or head coach.
If the club go with Carrick, I question whether they have any plan or just make it up as they go along. If it needs a change from Carrick in 12 to 18 months, I suspect many managers will be less inclined to come because they think we are too emotionally driven and not prepared to change to meet 2026. That's why I feel strongly.
21 Feb 2026 09:32:12
Tw. Bruno's availability has been phenomenal. Yes, the demands are not sustainable. I think there needs to be a total break in summer, a 4 week period with no friendlies, no post season cash raising games 10,000 miles away. No post season friendly or competitive internationals, and set dates for all tournaments to be in summer and allow for the 4 week enforced break.
They also need to look at all the international breaks, far too many, qualifying groups with no hopers in to make them feel wanted, and tick inclusivity boxes for the authorities. So many international games squashes the fixtures tighter. The international breaks have got out of hand. Look at the cup games, as they have been doing, no replays.
05 Jan 2026 13:08:01
If they are waiting until end of season then Tuchel comes to mind.
17 Nov 2025 17:52:05
Team, not team Bruno. We need to move forward and that isn’t going to be with a 31 year old, no matter how blinded you are. You would let him play until he has no value.
I don’t hate anyone, let alone Bruno, but we are dragging our feet as we have done for years.
16 Nov 2025 13:17:51
Anderson looked class for England, looks a complete CM to me and can pass, comfortable in close with players around him. It’s the United tax on the price. Question is why have we not been picking up players like that before they get to £100m. Still, if the scouts like him, buy. You know I would sell Bruno to fund it, we missed that trick in summer. Still suspect that will be one of the big deals in summer. Thing is we need a CM on 1st Jan.
Ugarte takes a lot of stick, my humble opinion is that he isn’t suited to how we play. He looks like he is comfortable up close, one of a central 3. However, there is space all around him here and Bruno doesn’t play like that. When opposition run at him with space he doesn’t look comfortable. I think he is a really good player that was not bought for how United play.
01 May 2026 13:52:22
Angel
The ones who gave ETH an extension, then sacked him 2 months later... those footballing guys?
01 May 2026 11:01:38
Last summer was a welcome change; however, where was the central midfield player we had been desperate for? I take a view, over a long history of poor transfers; a lot stems back to when the Glazers arrived.
Even under SAF, there was "no value in the market." Many disappointing transfer windows followed, less so last summer, but, as I say above, it still missed that key buy.
01 May 2026 07:00:53
Carrick of West Ham heritage with no United ties would not get the job.
I keep seeing the word 'considered'. Yep. Consider the temp: anyone who has managed teams will have done that, but for the biggest job in world football, people are losing their heads because of emotion.
Given names before, so read what I wrote. Iraola was one on the list. Would also say Brighton's manager is worth looking at, too.
But those who want the emotional ride with Carrick will only dismiss anyone else, or set a ridiculous level, e.g., only Enrique above Carrick. Or say no one is interested. What? The biggest job in world football, not interested? There will be a queue.
My only hope is that the ownership is less emotionally driven than the fan base.
01 May 2026 06:51:48
Salford
100%, but the people in charge have traditionally bought 4th choice before.
01 May 2026 06:50:30
So what you are saying is, let's waste a season or two to allow Carrick to watch a transition, then dump him for someone who knows how to play it. Stump up your season ticket money for that.
I said years ago on here, before SAF retired, we should consider moving to a head coach rather than an all-powerful manager, but we bumble on.
One thing is certain, leaving Carrick as a long-term temp is not a good option.