17 Jan 2026 08:43:08
Ambition, something Manchester United had right through the club until the Glazers arrived. SAF had it yet had to bow to no value in the market. I remember watching Aguero go to city whilst there was no value as an example.

So what, said it before. Here we are in January having sacked a manager who was changing the club, but had already been turned down on who he wanted to buy. He wanted certain players this window, now he has gone and someone put a stop to that appalling spending of money that might go on dividends. The 20 years of Glazers should have taught us that, only difference now is they don’t have someone to say No value.

Speaking of no value, there was no value in Semenyo, or Guehi. City are now what we used to be, a club moving together in one direction, who trade far better than we do, plan very well. Have no doubt that Peps replacement will already be lined up. Yes there is the outcome of the 115 charges to wait for, if they are ever able to get out of a legal circle.

So today, we play City, don’t worry about midfield we are looking at a mystery midfield player on loan (Ruben Loftus Cheek I bet) , our leaky defence is ok. Meanwhile the club put out stories the players are astonished on how good Carricks training is. We wonder if we can get a result against the might of City, against all expectations today. We have Wilcox ex Blackburn with responsibility for our future whilst destroying a manager, telling us the poor team we have should be able to make top four. Ambition.

Twenty years of Glazers has turned us not just into a financial mess so they can be billionaires at the price of shafting the fans, but also they have made us the noisy neighbours with little ambition.

1.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 09:39:43
Red man, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ruben Amorim should have done with the players he had at his disposal, 32% win rate in the premier league. He won only 15 games in his 14 month tenure! 15! OGS did that in an interim spell . His results were appalling and he blew it up himself. He sacked himself, it's well known the club did not want to sack him, for whatever reason. Players he wanted? Why not do better with the players you have first.

On the Glazers, yes, they have been terrible with the leveraging of debt and putting people in charge of the club that were nowhere near capable. And because of the mismanagement of 20 years, I am willing to give Jim and his team a little bit of leeway. They are wading through so much crap and have to get so much more together and right before Amy of us will see real results.

And let's just remember, they did not want to sack Amorim, they wanted him there, in charge for the future, mad as it is to me, that's what they wanted.

Sure, I'd love to see them go out and buy more players but I believe they were throwing caution to the wind based on the Managers abysmal record up until that point.

Let's see how this period goes, who they look to appoint in the summer and players they are looking to get in. We are still in massive rebuild stage that is going to take nothing but time.

2.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 10:04:52
angel

I am looking at the bigger picture. You just don’t get the change needed, for you it’s all about the results now, now, now. Change management involves short term pain, but some fans don’t understand. SAF would have gone in 1988 on your stats basis.
We have hit the panic button by not nurturing the change, kept with Wilcox methodology, gone back to the initial comfort of old slippers, someone who knows the club, who won’t push for signings. Time you woke up to the bigger picture.

3.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 10:22:46
It is possible for both things to be true. The owners and leadership are incompetent, and Amorim struggled to get the best from this group of players. We can debate whether he was right or wrong, but calling this the worst United team ever, and regularly singling out players for public criticism does not make for a happy environment.

Conte's comments about Højlund this week were telling. He said Højlund is improving now he is receiving proper coaching.

Scott is ripping it up in Italy, Rashford is doing well in Spain. There is clearly something endemically wrong at United. I for one, have no idea how it gets fixed. New owners seemed like a good start but that isn't going so well is it?

4.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 10:33:15
Spot on Red Man. Plus the not unexpected 32% response! Things were beginning to change on the playing front. Now we'll never know as we rinse and repeat yet again!
Imagine if SAF had been treated in the same manner. Again, we shall never know. But, for the sake of instant gratification, here we are again!

5.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 11:35:53
Red man, you say it's all about now now now for me but here I am saying Jim and co need time and you want them out of the club. don't be so hypocritical, practise what you're preaching.

I didn't see the change or improvement in the team at all apart from the clutching at straws argument that we were closer to the top 4 than ever. I'll remind you, we were 4 points off top 4 when Amorim came in.

But it's done now, experiment over.

AJH makes very valid points above.

I'm willing to give the senior team more time to get this right as the job on their hands is massive.

6.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 11:37:20
If people want to draw SAFs time as a comparison, he never presided over such dreadful results and he had much more difficult things to deal with.

Let's stop kidding ourselves with this.

7.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 11:39:41
Redman, I'm only going to quibble with one thing. There are no dividends at the moment and haven't been since 2022. Personally I'd be really happy if the club was doing well enough to generate profits and be able to pay dividends, whether or not they are actually paid. If United wasn't a public company we wouldn't likely know what the shareholders were taking.

Why do people invest? To make money via income and/or capital appreciation. There's nothing unique about owners taking dividends, management fees, salaries etc. Despite the restraints put on SAF thanks to the requirement to service LBO debt, the club was in a decent leverage position after it went public. Since then United has spent plenty money on players. They've just done a crap job at it. That's the real travesty. The appalling mismanagement. If we were winning titles regularly would anyone really care that the owners were making money out of the club?

8.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 12:02:25
Angel when did you change your mind on jim?

9.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 12:04:57
Get that scumbag Jim as far away from our club as possible.
This is a previous post from Angel so i'm not sure that's a post looking to give him time.

10.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 12:07:16
Is 5th not getting best from this group i don't think we are 4th bestt squad does anybody?
I suppose we will have to wait and see how much not Carrick gets from them.

11.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 12:26:45
Newname

No dividends due to accounting rules, do you not think they are itching to get them again?

The Glazers have not invested one cent and yes I have called out the Glazers since the leveraged buy out because I understood what it was and meant. I want us to win titles but I want the Glazers out.

angel, what league positions did SAF achieve in his early years?

12.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 12:33:57
Ken, he is a scumbag and I didn't want him at the club, but he's here and it's the first time that there have been footballing people in charge of our club so Berrada, Wilcox, Vivell, I'm willing to give them time to get it right. Hope that clears that up.

13.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 13:27:24
Just clears up what we know angel.

14.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 14:31:59
RedMan bang a new drum other than the glazers, we all know you don’t want them and we don’t want them or SJR, but RA was very poor and deserved the sack long ago, the football was really poor the results awful, terrible in game management and he wanted the sack, so good riddance, do I agree with Carrick, nope that’s another awful mistake….

But you deride everyone else but bang on and on about the Glazers which until someone with very deep pockets comes along that’s not going to change.
RA never improved one player in fact most digressed so how you can bang his drum is mind blowing.

15.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 15:08:13
Redman. It's nothing to do with accounting rules. Of course they want dividends again. But to get them they'll need to make profits. I'd prefer they invested in the club rather than took dividends, but the only thing I really care about is the quality if our football.

16.) 17 Jan 2026
17 Jan 2026 17:54:11
Newname

You are showing your lack of knowledge on financial matters. Accounting rules meant dividends could not be taken, that does relate to financial results and profit.

You would prefer, prefer they invested in the club. They haven’t invested a cent, I care about the football club and the Glazers need to leave.