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04 Dec 2024 13:47:10
Seeing quite a few links to clubs looking at dalot.
That would be a great result for us if we could sell him.
A very average player not suited to a wing back role at all long term imo. Really poor crosser of the ball and suffers from severe concentration lapses.
Always gives his all but so did ralph milne.
1.) 04 Dec 2024 14:06:02
Ken,
I agree with you. The club needs to raise their standards aswell. I do believer others should leave before Dalot. However, Utd could do with the money, if the PSR rumours are to be believed.
2.) 04 Dec 2024 15:26:09
Psr rules are all changing MH. I've a lot less concerns around that going forward.
3.) 04 Dec 2024 15:38:46
When he gets into high positions up the pitch, his head explodes. If we could get an upgrade, would be great.
Not unhappy if he stays as a backup though.
4.) 04 Dec 2024 16:09:20
Decent back up angel but if we can get good money for him it might pay us to sell.
5.) 04 Dec 2024 16:34:49
It's almost unbelievable so many clubs want him, given he is cr4p. Maybe they see something in him.
6.) 04 Dec 2024 16:55:48
He's not crap Tony, far from it. But I believe we need better as first choice.
7.) 04 Dec 2024 17:18:33
He is decent back up at best i'd agree so if someone wants to buy him for 20m plus I think it would be a good deal for us.
He is good back up for Portugal. He has good attributes and would do well I'm sure.
Does he possess the attributes needed to play rwb for our manager I don't think so.
All the noise could be him angling for a new contract. If the coach thinks he fits the system he will get one i'm sure. I don't see him being happy if not regular starter once the team settled down.
8.) 05 Dec 2024 11:20:17
We need Davies.
9.) 05 Dec 2024 12:06:55
Steve Davis. snooker loopy.
10.) 05 Dec 2024 15:57:43
I wonder will anyone sign rashford ajh but you think he is crap so obviously not.
11.) 05 Dec 2024 18:57:45
I don't think Rashford is crap ken, I think he has amazing ability. However, his application and effort is poor and his head seems elsewhere, he's had long enough to fix it but doesn't seem able to.
12.) 05 Dec 2024 21:39:49
I agree. He just shirks any physical contact and work.
I really think he should move for his own good. I'd like to see him excel elsewhere but I don't think he has the drive.
13.) 05 Dec 2024 21:46:56
Far more valuable and problem assets in the squad than Dalot.
26 Nov 2024 19:17:55
One of the more interesting stories I read this week is the possibility of zirkzee going on loan to juve with Douglas Luiz coming to united on loan it's not gone well for him in Italy. Good player when at villa. He is a player that would suit us at the moment I would think.
1.) 27 Nov 2024 22:33:07
Doubt it would happen. Amorim hasn't had enough time to assess if Zirkzee fits into his plans, it would also leave us lacking more numbers up front. While Zirkzee isn't a striker, he can play as a 10 or false 9 whereas Luiz is a CM. I don't see him leaving Turin where he only recently moved with his partner, Alisha Lehmann.
2.) 28 Nov 2024 07:07:05
Easy story to write that.
3.) 28 Nov 2024 13:37:14
Not that anyone has been necessarily impressive to start the season (bar Amad), has anyone else been severely disappointed in Zirkzee? I don't see him excelling in any traits out there on the pitch.
4.) 28 Nov 2024 13:57:15
I can not believe after watching Martial is last few years, we signed one of the only strikers in the world that Martial could beat in a race.
5.) 28 Nov 2024 15:49:12
Very good dsg. ?
Martial tearing it up in Greece.
1 goal in 12 games.
23 Aug 2024 13:48:17
Ed002 good afternoon.
2 questions for you.
What do you think will happen with sancho come the end of the window. Loan out, sell or stay?
Secondly mctominay do you think he will get a move or stay? If he does move do you see united going in for another midfielder to replace him or do you think ugarte will be the only 1st team midfielder brought in (assuming they get him)
Appreciate i'm only asking for an opinion.
{Ed002's Note - Jadon Sancho (W) Borussia Dortmund would take the player back but will not pay more than half of what they sold him for and will step back unless the demands of the player and club are more reasonable, or a further loan is offered. Newcastle may have provided an option but moved on. Agent approached Spurs but they can be discounted. Perhaps a loan to buy for Juventus but wages are a huge issue. RBL may be open to a discussion.
Scott McTominay (CM) If available at the right price, West Ham, Fulham and Galatasaray will be interested. Napoli may offer a wildcard option but he is not first choice - and they would likely only want a loan. I suspect he will stay or may make a move to Napoli.
Manchester United have priorities to address first.}
1.) 23 Aug 2024 14:46:54
Cheers.
14 Aug 2024 13:40:37
Hi ed002.
Do you know if there is any serious interest from the Saudi pro league in any of our players?
I've read reports that they are looking at the likes of lindelof casimero Anthony and rashford.
Just wondering if you think they will make any offers to united for any of the above?
{Ed002's Note - Casemiro at the right price may still be of interest.}
1.) 14 Aug 2024 13:56:25
I guess if Ugarte comes in then Casemiro has a decision to make.
2.) 14 Aug 2024 15:42:03
ED002,
What fee do you think a deal for Casemiro could be down for?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I am not going to try and guess fees but at 32 perhaps £20M or so.}
3.) 14 Aug 2024 16:47:52
No it doesn't.}
4.) 14 Aug 2024 17:04:06
Cheers ED002,
I think the club just need to sell at a loss a s get his wages off the books.
5.) 14 Aug 2024 17:14:53
Paying him for a year and selling him next year might be cheaper and not generate a loss MH.
Not intimate with the detail but that's what a lot of us don't know.
6.) 14 Aug 2024 17:24:09
It depends, if it's going to cost the club the same regardless of whether he leaves this summer or next then surely getting another year out of him and his experience makes it worthwhile keeping him around for another year.
{Ed025's Note - that is not moving forward though Shappy, thats stagnating mate and if you want to progress you have to get rid of free loaders like Casimero and Anthony imo mate, they are bleeding the club dry..
7.) 14 Aug 2024 18:31:02
Assume we're amortizing his transfer cost at £15m pa and he costs us another £15m pa in wages, and his written down book value is £30m, selling him for £20m improves the bottom line by £20m in the coming fiscal year. That cost has to be reduced by the annual costs of his replacement. A 5 year contract for Ugarte at say £45m plus a wage of £5m year, for a total of £14m a year, still yields a better financial outcome.
These are all complete estimates based on info on the internet but, suffice it to say, if the Saudis are prepared to give us £20m+ for him we should take it and move on. We cannot be building teams around players at the end of their careers. Surely that's got to be the #1 lesson of the last 12 years or more.
8.) 14 Aug 2024 22:28:01
Ed025, I'd love to get all those players who aren't good enough off the books of the club this summer.
But if we did that we'd struggle to name a 5 a side team let alone a starting 11 and 7 subs.
Reality is that we need to ship some off this summer, a few more next summer and probably a couple more he summer after.
Currently Casemiro is the only special-ist CDM we have at the club. We need at least two special-ists defensive midfielders to cover for injuries and to rotate.
If we get rid of Casemiro this summer then we will also have to sign TWO defensive midfielders rather than one.
Therefore, selling Casemiro at a loss and then being forced to buy two midfielders is an extremely costly way to run the club.
Keeping Casemiro for one more season as the back up, while signing a player like Ugarte to be first choice. Makes much more sense. Then sell Casemiro next summer without him counting as a loss on the books.
Just like everyone else, bar City, we need to keep within PSR rules.
Say we bought Ugarte for 45m and kept Casemiro. That is the CDM position sorted for this season at a cost of 45m.
If we sell Casemiro for a 20m loss on the books, buy Ugarte for 45m and Sander Berge for a further 25m then solving the CDM position has cost us 90m with the two players and the loss.
Effectively you can add whatever loss we take on Casemiro to the fee of the player we sign to replace him.
9.) 15 Aug 2024 01:35:03
Doesn't add up Shappy. Casemiro costs United c. £30m a year in wages + depreciation. And if his departure means we have to buy 2 CDMs then surely we have to buy 1 anyway. So you can only compare costs between Casemiro and whoever replaces him. The second CDM will have to be funded by the sale of, say, McTominay and/ or Erickson.
Where are you getting the £20m loss from? Apparently we paid £60m for him on a 4 year contract. He's been with us for 2 so his residual value should be around £30m. Ed suggested we might get £20m for him. I'm sure United will be weighing the extent of the loss compared to the savings. If we can only get £10m for him then my guess is he'll stay, but they are not going to base the decision on the illogical proposition that we'll have to buy 2 people to replace him. If we keep Casemiro and get Ugarte, the bottom line cost for Ugarte is not £45m in year one, it's £9m amortization + his wages. Even if you assume a loss of £20m by selling Casemiro, you have to offset the £30m of annual cost you have avoided.
10.) 15 Aug 2024 01:50:57
Sales appear on the accounts for that year, incoming you can spread across fives year in regards the accounts.
You will be going into future years already having to account for that 15 million of his fee.
Chelsea are committing themselves to having to sell a lot of players in each of the next few years, assuming there are no more hotels to move about on the accounts.
I am not sure why everyone isn't playing hardball with them over buying their players, they have to sell.
We have a number of players who are going to restrict future budgets if we move them on.
I rather fancy there has been a bit of robbing Peter to Paul about us this window, out of necessity admittedly, but we are going to have to sell a couple each year just to balance the books and allow us to be able to spend.
We are still hampered by the awful recruitment over the last few years.
11.) 15 Aug 2024 10:01:03
Oak your forgetting if we sell the players we are trying to sell the wage budget would probably be significantly lower and this in the end is almost as big if not bigger than money from sales.
12.) 15 Aug 2024 19:02:07
I think it's unfair to label either Casemeiro or Anthony as freeloaders.
Nobody put a gun against the heads of Utds recruitment and said they had to pay over inflated prices and salaries.
You can't blame the players for maximising their income as they have a short career and let's be honest we would all do the same as them given the chance.
Both players do try. Casemeiro had an excellent first season but in common with the whole team last his way last season. This year with decent defenders behind him and a stronger midfield ahead of himaybe he will be able to play to his strengths more. Anthony has talent but probably not good enough to cut it at the highest level. flashes of brilliance fail to hide the overall level.
13.) 15 Aug 2024 21:11:37
Salford you are right, that is unfair on genuine freeloaders who have perfected that art.
The surplus to requirements players have parasitic veins running through their bodies. That is a more fair and reasonable analogy of them.
14.) 16 Aug 2024 10:42:23
Cutting Jimbo.
15.) 16 Aug 2024 14:08:03
I don’t know Casemiro but if he has the professionalism off the park he could be an excellent mentor for the younger players and still play a part if we are injury hit. He’s long in tooth but has been a great player and demanded success. If his heart is still in it.
16.) 17 Aug 2024 08:18:30
Get Ugarte in and play Casemiro in Europe, cups and as/ when needed in the league. Let’s be honest, ‘when’ we’re winning 1-0 away at Liverpool later on in the season, Casemiro coming on for the last 20 minutes will be invaluable.
Sell McTominay, bring in Rabiot and that’s midfield sorted, at a cost of only around £15m net:
Ugarte/ Casemiro/ Collyer
Mainoo/ Rabiot
Bruno/ Mount.
29 Jul 2024 19:16:34
Hannibal may be off to rangers.
Pellistri? I think there is some interest
Sancho psg potentially
Mctom Fulham?
Awb West ham?
Ericksen ajax?
Lindelof? Not heard much
Clearing these players would be a lovely end to the window.
4 more in would be great. A cb rb and 2 xcm
If we do clear out those I think that will only leave dalot Shaw maguire bruno and rashford as players that eth inherited. 3 summer windows to get rid of nearly a whole squad is some going.
It really would be nice to see the above 7 go before the end of August . If we got fees in and around 85 to 100m between them all it would be decent imo.
Rb looks sorted fingers crossed.
1 x cm looks sorted with the Uruguayan chap from psg.
Hopefully 1 of jb challobah or deligt will come in at cb.
Ideally then we get another cm in although I think eth is looking at mount as a cm.
1.) 29 Jul 2024 20:13:43
Where is Casemiro!
He should be the first out of the door, his wages vs what he brings represent the worst ratio of any player on our books.
Yes worse than Eeyore and the petulant child Sancho.
In order of priorities out the door.
Casemiro
Sancho
Maguire
AWB
Hannibal
Pellestri
Lindelof
Anybody else that isn't viewed long term.
2.) 29 Jul 2024 20:57:29
Casemeiro is on big wages and understandably no elite team will need him and middle tier teams could not afford him. So difficult to move on.
Likewise Maguire and Lindelof.
3.) 29 Jul 2024 22:44:37
I forgot Eriksen and Anthony!
We are still a mess.
Top 4 whilst not necessarily out of the question this year, you have to say if the majority of the above players are part of the squad, somewhere between 4th and 8th is a reasonable prediction.
Not being a doomsdayer, more so realistic about our current squad.
You could replace
Eriksen with Collyer
Maguire with MDL
Pellestri with Lacey
Casemiro with Ugarte
Lindelof with JB
AWB with that Maz. Guy from Bayern
That leaves Hannibal Sancho and Anthony. I would say Rashford, Amad and Garnacho offers us quite a bit on the wings, plus Lacey to be integrated wherever possible. So what to replace those three with from the youth setup, or any shrewd signings available. there's been quite a few names mentioned on here about potential youth players, it isn't the worst strategy!
4.) 29 Jul 2024 21:58:11
Unless a saudi league team comes in for him Casemiro is going nowhere, Lindelof will go before the window shuts but i think Maguire will be staying.
5.) 29 Jul 2024 22:05:17
Casimero imo is much more valuable to the team than the likes of mctom or ericksen jimbob imo. Good experience in a squad not blessed with that.
He is also a lot harder to move due to the finances. We cannot suffer big losses on assets and nobody will pay enough for us to avoid that.
Maguire and cas are not going to walk away from millions.
If he stays casimero will make a positive contribution imo.
Lindelof might get a suitable offer.
6.) 29 Jul 2024 23:23:10
Let's pray for the Saudis to take Cas.
PSG to take Sancho
Ajax to take Eriksen
Anyone to take Maguire
Someone to take AWB
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7.) 30 Jul 2024 06:03:18
Have a feeling Ten Haag will want to hold onto a few of the players you listed. He loves peddling excuses and so will want to keep at least five or six pre-Ten Haag players around so that he can blame the squad he inherited when things inevitably go pear-shaped.
8.) 30 Jul 2024 08:52:46
This has reminded me, what happened with Hannibal?
He looked really promising not long ago, and I thought he looked pretty good at the start of last season, then he left on loan and suddenly his time at Utd seems to be over.
Did he just peak early and not expected to reach the level we need? Are there personal issues?
9.) 30 Jul 2024 09:19:46
Simply over rated over hyped.
10.) 30 Jul 2024 12:18:45
Hannibal has many good aspects of his game, technical skills, physically strong, reasonable quick and is seemingly a hard worker in the pitch.
But all of that is let down as he seems to lack the cerebral capacity to apply himself in a way that is beneficial to the team.
He runs around like a headless chicken, chasing the ball like a dog chasing a carrier bag in the wind. While he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to manage his emotions, leading to flashes of anger and petulant behaviour. Making him a red card waiting to happen.
Those drawbacks make him a hard player to fit into the line up. His most natural position at United would be in the No.10 as he isn't disciplined enough to play in the pivot. That means he's competing with Bruno, who has some of the same drawbacks (uncoordinated pressing - dragged out of position, and petulance) but without being able to have the same kind of impact on games. While Bruno is seemingly never injured.
We also have Mount, Eriksen and Amad who can all play there and are ahead of him.
Time to move him on and create space for younger lads who have a chance of making it, as long as there is a pathway for them.
Was he overhyped/ overrated? Well he's certainly never lived up to the hype. He has the talent, but is lacking between the ears. Something that is never considered when young players are rated. I keep saying it, but talent will only take you so far, mentality/ attitude are what makes the difference.
Have they got the right attitude to learn, to push themselves, to work hard, to look after themselves away from the pitch, the resilience to see setbacks as challenges and to relish those challenges.
Or do they let ego take over, get ahead of themselves, think they've made it, get distracted by all the things that easily distract teenage boys with money to burn.
Being a professional footballer is harder now than ever, the expectations, the pressure, the social media element, the need to not just be good with the ball but to train your mind, marginal gains.
If a professional at the highest level drops their level by 2-3% that has a massive impact on their performance.
Staying up late playing computer games so you haven't had enough sleep can be the difference between a good performance and an awful one.
While I'm not saying it isn't worth it, the sacrifices that these young lads need to make to make that leap from youth to professional level are massive and significant.
While they are also too young to have enough life experience to fully understand the impacts of their actions. They need to have enough trust and belief in those older adults around them to follow what they say and not question it or think they know better. Anyone who works with teenagers or has had teenagers knows exactly how hard (almost impossible) that is.
I'm a massive advocate for the club creating pathways and giving opportunities to youth players. For me that is an integral part of the Manchester United identity.
However, I also know that at best only 10% of the lads in the academy are ever likely to get a real chance in the first team. While less than 10% of those who get that chance will actually make it in the first team for a multitude of reasons.
So out of 100 lads in the academy, 10 or so might actually get some games in the first team. Of those ten you'll be lucky if one of them turns out to be good enough to play regularly for the first team. Maybe a couple others might be okay as squad players for a year or two (but will eventually have to move on to have a career) .
Look at United over the past decade. McTominay and Rashford are the only ones to have actually made it at the club. Rashford being good enough to be a regular starter, while McTominay is a solid squad player.
Last season we had Mainoo and Garnacho really step up and look to readdress that and get more youngsters in the first team squad.
Hopefully there are a few more to come from a super talented group of players currently in the academy.
Collyer looks like he might be the McTominay replacement as one who goes on to become a good squad player. Although fingers crossed he kicks on and proves me wrong.
For most of the lads in the academy, becoming a solid squad player is likely the best they will achieve at our club (that isn't an insult, but is actually a compliment. The standards for our club need to be sky high, even for those on the bench) .
Maybe there is the chance that one or two of them possess the right level of ability, mentality and temperament, while also getting the luck they need to step up and make it as a starter. From what I've seen of the academy lads there are three who for me have the best chance. Harry Amass, Shea Lacey and Ethan Williams.
They all seem to possess that higher level talent, while they also play in positions both where there is potentially chances opening up with players leaving/ declining over the next couple of years, and in positions where it is easier to give young players a chance (wide rather than centrally) .
I think it's particularly hard for players who play down the spine of the team to make the jump up and breakthrough into the first team. Be that keeper, CB, CM or CF. These positions are too key to performance and results. Fullback and playing on the wings are much easier positions to breakthrough in.
11.) 30 Jul 2024 23:52:55
Thanks, that's a shame, I remember seeing him a few times a couple of years ago, and thinking he might end up in a similar mold to Ander Herrera, who was a big favourite of mine. But if he doesn't have the mentality, not much that can be done. Maybe he'll discover it as he matures.
12.) 31 Jul 2024 10:30:38
Agree there Shappy: Gary Neville has always said he was never the most talented, but made up for it with hard work and intelligence.
13.) 31 Jul 2024 11:36:48
Thorne, it's always a shame when a talented young player falls short of making it at our club, for whatever reason.
Hannibal I think is a classic case of a young player relying too heavily on their natural talent and not developing the rest of their game.
The tactical demands of the modern game at the top mean players cannot rely on individual brilliance if that isn't paired with the intelligence to follow tactical instructions and work as a team.
Players need to know how and when to press, where they need to be during different phases of play. While also having the reading of the game to know which phase they are in and what they need to do next depending on what happens.
For Hannibal I think it came too easy for him at youth level, he never had to move outside his comfort zone and push himself to develop all areas of his game.
He always looked like a player where it was a question of "when" will they breakthrough, rather than "will" they breakthrough.
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20 May 2025 06:48:28
Who joins ericksen lindelof and Evans at the exit door.
Unlikely we will get all out in 1 window.
I think the following week be sold this window.
Rashford, Garnacho, Anthony zirkzee onana bayindir
I'm hoping we can find buyers for Shaw rasmus dalot and one of maguire or deligt but i suspect all will stay this window.
Mainoo is the one that night surprise some i'd ideally like him to stay but I'm not sure that will be the case.
So much depends on the result on Wednesday as much as it helps attract players it also becomes harder to shift a few too. If we are not in Europe then the squad does not have to be as big.
Very interesting summer ahead and tomorrow night will have amajor impact on what we do.
Delighted to see cunha commit before he knows if we have European football. Shows the right desire to be here imo.
1.) 20 May 2025 08:10:57
What about casemiro! And Sancho!
2.) 20 May 2025 09:23:21
I think the club will look at players who can play a number of positions like Mazraoui so with this I think both Shaw (LWB/ LB/ LCB) and Dalot (Left side/ Right side) will stay. But these would be two I would be looking to move on personally.
I do wonder if Cunha coming in will result in Garnacho moving on? I know he has played quite a bit recently but seems hard to see where he will get game time with Cunha, Fernandes, Amad, Mount potentially ahead of him in the the 10 role.
3.) 20 May 2025 10:16:19
Evans
Maguire
Shaw
Linder
Erickson
Antony
Sancho
Rashford
Onana
Bayinder
Hojland
Martinez
Malacia
Those would be mine ones to get shipped out.
Then you have the likes of casimiro who has looked a bit better recently but still has been awful this season
You can’t trust Mount to stay fit, think if he gets another injury get him gone
But that’s 13 must for me which isn’t going to happen in one window.
4.) 20 May 2025 12:22:04
Martienz won't be sold.
5.) 20 May 2025 13:08:43
Martinez won’t be sold because no one will want him, his injury record not great, he certainly not suited to EPL, and other countries apart from Saudi won’t pay anywhere near like contract we gave him.
Yes he is 100% but he is too rash and an accident waiting to happen, hence why so many injuries, like Deligt far too many injuries and both lack any pace, which in EPL is needed….
6.) 21 May 2025 06:00:51
Its ok saying sell these players but let's ne honest whos going to buy likes of Onana Hoijlund any of the TH buys really might shift some out on loans can see Antony back we need to big a fee for him maybe Garnacho and Rashford be sold for half decent money but tbf they're half decent players who we might regret selling if the Amorin experiment goes the way of ETHs . definitely should concentrate on strikers this window make us at least carry a bit of a fhreat Delaps a good buy at that money i like him but is he going to be a 15/ 20 league goal a season guy big window.
06 May 2025 15:58:43
Asking a hypothetical question here.
Would you swap garnacho and mainoo for Cole palmer?
1.) 06 May 2025 16:28:37
I'd definitely keep Mainoo.
2.) 06 May 2025 16:32:12
Chelsea's Luke Chadwick?
3.) 06 May 2025 16:33:40
Probably not, because they worth about 100 mil together palmer not worth that, so they could have them two we have Palmer and 25-30 mil.
4.) 06 May 2025 18:28:23
Garnacho and say £30 million yes but not Mainoo.
5.) 06 May 2025 18:45:47
Wouldn't swap Garna but would Mainoo as I think he is more replaceable.
6.) 06 May 2025 19:59:21
I am of the opinion Garnacho will come good.
With Mainoo, definitely a player in there, RA's role to make him work in his system.
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
The real question is, are we a better outfit with Palmer in lieu of both Garnacho and Mainoo, and I think the answer is no we would not be.
7.) 06 May 2025 20:20:54
Absolutely i'd swap the pair of them for Cole Palmer be mad not to he'd have a Bruno type inpact where half the time u forget Mainoo and Garna are on the pitch that's not to say i don't rate them just rate Palmer way way more not that Chelsea would entertain that deal.
8.) 07 May 2025 00:48:49
No. I believe in our youth, don't believe they have reached their potential yet. I think Cole Palmer has.
9.) 07 May 2025 05:55:06
Reluctantly I probably would, but I know that I might live to regret it.
I rate both Mainoo and Garnacho highly, but they only really have potential right now. There is no guarantee that either of them becomes the player their potential suggests they could be.
While the team currently heavily relies on Bruno, and if he doesn't do it then we struggle. Cole Palmer has shown he is a class act capable of performing and being decisive right now. Ironically he is the kind of player we need more of in the squad to give players like Mainoo and Garnacho the breathing space to develop without the expectations of having to actually win the games for us.
The worry will always be what if they go on to eclipse Palmer, will we have egg on our face. You never want to sell academy players, especially with the ones who have the potential to actually reach the level you need.
Fortunately this is just a hypothetical and will never likely be viable option. But given where we are right now you'd be mad to turn down a top class player who performs to a high level every week for two youngsters who don't contribute combined even half of what Palmer does on his own right now.
10.) 07 May 2025 07:07:47
I do think this keep waiting for our academy players to come good more in hope then anything seen is absolute tosh, yes we would all love a team full of academy players but it ain’t going to happen, if you ain’t hit top level by the time your 20-21 or at least shown it more than not, the chances are your not getting there, yes you can still be a good player, but we need better than good players
You can’t keep storing players in the hope one day
Also all this rubbish, sell them and put a sell on clause in contract, well of course very nice but there are more than one party who does have to agree a contract, it’s not fairyland it’s business …….
Yes there are a few late bloomers, but if you’re honest with yourself and take off the red tints, there are not very many……
This team needs goals and needed them for past seasons, Garnacho don’t get nowhere near enough and Mainoo ain’t running no midfields not mobile or quick enough.
11.) 07 May 2025 07:26:12
No thanks.
12.) 07 May 2025 14:03:36
Id have to take Palmer over Garnacho and Mainoo simply because he contributes a lot more and fits the system.
Palmer has 58 goal contribution in 86 game in the prem
Garnacho has 26 goal contribution in 91 games in the prem
Mainoo has 4 goal contributions in 47 games in the prem. granted Mainoo position isn't just judged on goals and assists but palmer is clearly the better player right now and the other 2 might not make it to his level.
13.) 07 May 2025 16:41:49
So german, would you wait till they hit 20-21 then?
14.) 07 May 2025 19:16:21
I think both are super young players who might go on to have great careers.
Will either become a good as palmer is already?
It's impossible to answer but I'd rather have palmer in this united team than either of them right now.
I'm not for one second suggesting it's a serious suggestion just a hypothetical question.
I'm not sure why some fans place more love on academy graduates or have more affection for academy graduates than players signed from other teams.
15.) 07 May 2025 20:05:21
How about if Bruno is sold we buy Palmer and retain Garnacho and Mainoo.
16.) 08 May 2025 11:58:01
All three would probably still not be involved in as many goals or play as many games as Bruno…. be as reliable or influential… so that’s a no from me, palmer found his feet at Chelsea, did not at City, so I would keep Bruno thanks.
05 May 2025 12:53:38
that was the youngest side we have ever put out in the epl.
The 3rd youngest epl side of all time.
Those who said give the kids a chance those that want open heart surgery this is what it looks like.
In 1996 we lost 2 of our 1st 3 games that preceeded you can't win anything with kids.
These played may well not reach those heights amd they won't all make it but I fully agree with the idea of throwing them in at this time given the circumstances.
Hopefully we will have 2 games where the results mean something between now and the end of the season every other game is about learning imo.
If we do won the europa league it will have a very positive impact fingers crossed we can.
1.) 05 May 2025 14:48:42
Take lumps of coal, apply pressure, you get diamonds.
(Superman showed us the way)
2.) 05 May 2025 18:40:48
To be fair, I think there were quite a few positives to take from the game. The only real negative was losing MdL to injury.
We gave minutes to Dorgu (20), Amass (18), Fredricson (20), Obi (17), Mainoo (20), Garnacho (20), and Yoro (19).
That's 7 players who are 20 or younger. While we also gave valuable game time to Shaw, Mount and Amad as they make their way back to full match fitness after injury. Only MdL, Ugarte and Dorgu could probably expect to be first choice, the others are squad players or kids.
Given that we were away to a good Brentford side who are in very good form right now, then it's hardly a shocking result.
In fact we can be proud and take solace in the way a very young side fought back from 4-1 down to make it a slightly more respectable 4-3 loss. Maybe kids would have had let their heads drop going 4-1 down away from home. But the way they showed fight and courage was something that shows they might have the right mentality/ attitude to at least give them a chance of succeeding here.
3.) 05 May 2025 21:29:32
Well said Shappy.
4.) 05 May 2025 23:45:29
And Tumble.
There hasn't been many time where you two and myself have agreed!
01 May 2025 09:10:36
Do you agree with RA when he says winning EL won't save our season?
Personally, I think it does save our session but it doesn't make it a good one or excuse the shocking league campaign.
A win improves our position for next season considerably.
I'm not sure if that's what RA meant.
It's not good enough but it's better than nothing.
Really hoping that there are 3 good games in this squad.
1.) 01 May 2025 10:56:46
Winning will show we can get a job done, it also should build a winning mentality. However, we have to offset that with the poor league form.
The difference in our form in the 2 competitions has been stark.
However, I'll take a trophy every day of the week.
2.) 01 May 2025 11:25:11
I think that statement is looking at the current season in isolation, so in that case one trophy does not save what we have all agreed has been a painful and awful season.
If you look at it from a progression, what it means for next season or that we are developing then I agree it is important. But, nothing will solve the current season. But will help.
3.) 01 May 2025 11:39:05
I can understand what he is saying, it won’t save our season, no way, but like he went on to say will make things bit better for next season.
What I took more from that talk is when he says we know the problems and we will address them…. Hopefully the WE means all his coaching staff and the hierarchy are also on board and will give him the tools…. which it does seem they are….
4.) 01 May 2025 11:46:32
I think what he is trying to say is that this trophy doesn't excuse the overall form and the league position. If yes, then I fully agree with him.
On the other hand not winning Europa confirms the season as a disaster, and I really hope for his and our sake that we avoid ending up in that situation.
5.) 01 May 2025 12:19:44
Nothing could save this season in the situation we are in. We are a diabolical group who think far too highly of themselves. We are a total eyesore to watch. He’s 100% on the money. Win it or lose won’t change the needle in my mind the slightest, the exact same as last season with the FA Cup.
6.) 01 May 2025 12:26:47
I don't know if it's even true to say we're playing better in Europe. We're just playing crapper opposition!
7.) 01 May 2025 12:36:43
Sounds like he's getting his excuses in early ala ETH and Ole dosent save the season but makes an awful 1 so much better a big trophy Europa way bigger than the FA Cup . What a stupid thing for him to say Amo should stop chatting i'm getting slightly annoyed with his guff win the trophy give us a glimmer of what you can do man.
8.) 01 May 2025 13:34:31
Who's got the family brain cell this week Brum Boi?
9.) 01 May 2025 13:35:03
Agree Spenno. we were extremely lucky to get through against a 10 man Lyon team in the last round.
It's absolutely sh*te to watch!
10.) 01 May 2025 15:11:46
Just makes it a Jykell and Hyde season, decent in Europe, terrible domestically.
11.) 01 May 2025 16:31:00
I think it would be prudent just talking about the next game not talking of how it would be thought of winning it. Still 3 games to go.
12.) 01 May 2025 17:47:48
Nice1 badreddevil re the family brain cell. ?
Taking a single comment from a full presser in isolation is a tad disingenuous in my view and is akin to just what the media do. Having watched the entire presser live I understand exactly what RA meant.
13.) 01 May 2025 23:25:36
G_nev
Good positive post from you again, nice one.
14.) 02 May 2025 11:38:19
Based on where we were when Amorim came in, I’d say that winning the Europa League would be a good result. But he’s right. Finishing in seventeenth place is nowhere near good enough.
15.) 02 May 2025 12:18:13
I sense you dropping down to my level GDS2, well done.
28 Apr 2025 10:55:55
I watched 3 players we have been linked with play their full games this weekend with great interest.
Cunha. He was hugely effective imo a goal and made a couple. Works hard and very strong. Very good technically and has an element of unpredictability in his game. I'd be very hopeful he would do well if we sign him.
Wharton. I really like this guy watched him a few times now and I live the intensity he plays with. Still a little raw and his decision making is not there yet imo but great engine and appetite for hard work. Looks like a real players player. Not sure we are in the hunt for him but I suspect he will get a good move this summer or next.
Mateta. Not sure where his strengths are. He can look at bit cumbersome imo but has an eye for goal. He missed a pen at the weekend but held the ball up well and is a willing runner. I'm wondering if he has enough in his overall game. But a definite upgrade o what we have. In pretty much every respect.
I think all or any of those 3 would improve us as a team but I think mateta would have the most difficulty in reproducing his palace for. For united.
1.) 28 Apr 2025 11:14:00
I like all 3. Particularly Cunha who would be transformative for us I think.
There was a stat last week on SS showing claiming that he is terms of time 'walking around' he is second in the whole league (forget who was first - van Dijk maybe) . Not sure what to make of this stat and I think it would be wrong to suggest he is lazy, far from it, but it's well-known that in the Amorim system there's certainly no 'walking around' time. Hopefully just another pointless stat that needs to be taken in context.
Wharton would be an asset to any team. I'm not sure I see a space for him at any of the very top Prem teams so maybe he's an option. No thrills kind of player but a manager's dream. Probably like I expected Ugarte to be.
Mateta, really like this player but not sure he's high on the list. I thought he was a flash in the pan type of player after his exploits last season but he's still doing ok.
I'm not sure Palace will want to lose all considering Eze is likely to be in high demand.
2.) 28 Apr 2025 11:30:10
How old is Mateta? Looked lanky and a bit leggy for me. Have a feeling he is 28 and whilst experienced not sure he suits us. I also wonder if this is his peak and buy him now we would be buying him to see maybe a year and then the decline. 25 or 26 maximum for the main striker, maybe 27.
3.) 28 Apr 2025 12:23:59
He is 27 redman. He has had a very good 18 months to be fair and he works hard running the channels and holds the ball up well. Not the most pleasing player on the eye but has been effective. I'd rather him to delap as an option.
We can't blow the budget on oshimen with questions on his motives and character by all accounts.
So yeah it's the dilemma they face in choosing who to go for.
In delaps favour wilcox does know him well so should be confident in him. We all know so little of the intimate details that it's hard to make any real judgement other than what we see.
So much depends on The Europa league. I just don't know where the goals will come from.
4.) 28 Apr 2025 12:25:48
Spenno palace will not be pushed around we saw that last summer with their cb they turned down several big offers.
If they win the cup and go into Europe they might not need to sell anybody.
5.) 28 Apr 2025 13:40:14
Cunha and Costa (Goalie. ) Rest depends on the budget but those two are a must.
6.) 28 Apr 2025 14:48:25
Cunha Mateta, Delap and anyone to stand in between the post, will make us much much better. but that is wishful thinking….
7.) 28 Apr 2025 21:07:47
I'd take that lad that plays in goal for those YouTuber games over Onana. Possibly our worst signing?
8.) 29 Apr 2025 12:17:36
Short memory Peter? Do you not remember Taibi?
9.) 29 Apr 2025 13:36:16
That was 26 years ago mate. Not really a case of a short memory. Onana, for me, is the worst signing we have made since Ferguson left. He doesn't add anything.
10.) 29 Apr 2025 14:44:14
Right up there Peter. There is a few good candidates for that title.
But given fee paid the wages and the 2 years of nonsense keeping he would be right up there.
I'm hoping for a Saudi solution we need 27.8m to have no loss on the books. Seems unlikely.
He is just not up to the job at OT.
11.) 29 Apr 2025 19:16:14
I think Sanchez tops that list. We blew City out the water and he literally sat on the bench grabbing his 500k a week.
12.) 29 Apr 2025 23:07:56
It's a good shout Spenno. You look at Sanchez though and can see why we bought him.
Onana, on the other hand. He was making these same performances at Inter and Ajax.
20 May 2025 19:05:55
Really redseven how have the ones we have done over last few years?
19 May 2025 11:49:47
Good keeper and strong personality. Doubt it's a runner but I'd swap him for rashford in a heartbeat. Solving 2 problems in 1 go.
Biggest issue is getting rid of onana without incurring a heavy loss. Saudi is the cash cow we can't exploit they don't even want our crap players.
15 May 2025 12:38:13
Don ignorance is bliss.
08 May 2025 17:50:06
I'm indifferent to be honest. That goes for any player in the squad. I doubt bruno wants to leave if he doesn't then that's good. We have other players to sell.
If he wants to go amd take a reported 65m tax free season i certainly wouldn't blame him. The free reported would be well received.
I think he will stay. I think he will want to stay.
I think the manager would sacrifice lots of others like garnacho and rashford or even mainoo before bruno.
We need to sell 100% profit players i think it will be rashford and at least 1 other. If we don't make cl then it will probably be rashford plus 2 others.
05 May 2025 10:52:21
When was the last time Romano broke a news story?
21 May 2025 00:22:47
Like quite a few players we have deligt has some good attributes and is a strong character. He does lack pace and is imo a better version of a mguire type of player. We have a lot of young defenders so we do lack experience. You can't just throw everybody out martinez is out till next year so I think we do need to sign a cb and I think they will. We are losing 2 plus martinez so effectively only have 2 teenagers in yoro and heaven with maguire and delight as cb options next season plus 2 makeshift options of maz and the ever reliable Shaw.
20 May 2025 19:54:33
Anybody is better than onana.
Wc winner big personality good keeper. I'd be happy to have him. I don't think it's a runner to be honest which is a pity.
19 May 2025 15:40:36
Keefy both times we won the comp under fergie you think we should have been in it and that we diluted the competition?
19 May 2025 12:35:51
I think the opposite spenno a comp including the best 4 or 5 teams from the stronger league is a better comp than including the likes of Linfield salmon or shamrock rovers because they won their national league.
It doesn't file the comp it makes it stronger.
The intl one is different that does dilute the comp as you are adding inferior sides to the draw not superior ones.
19 May 2025 12:08:13
We won points from our 1st 11 games and won no European wins.
Season continued as it started in the league but at least it improved in Europe.