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04 Jun 2026 13:27:17
Bit of an old school one was talking to a colleague of mine in the North East this morning and he says that United have conceded they won't get Tonali and Hall from Newcastle this summer and will look to focus on Hall with other midfield options being focused on from elsewhere.
Not sure if this guy is itk but thought I'd share.
1.) 04 Jun 2026 17:01:35
Hopefully we get a summer of these rumours, surely it's what this page is about.
It would make sense for Newcastle to not want both to go to the same club, and I can see them prioritising Hall, with Tonali's price and other options making him less likely.
2.) 04 Jun 2026 22:07:16
Seems Newcastle are backing Howe. And, according to reports, the relationship between Hall and Howe is not a good one, so it makes sense they may want to cash in. If that's the case, I hope we do our due diligence on him, as we've had enough dressing room issues over the last few years!
3.) 07 Jun 2026 10:37:41
I know Newcastle needs to balance the books a little, but they've already sold Gordon for around £70m already, that's on top of losing Isak last year.
They have ambitious owners who won't want to be seen to be losing all the momentum they have built already.
Surely they will only let one more big name established player leave this summer at most.
So it'll come down to who they feel is most expendable or who is easiest (maybe cheapest) to replace.
If that is the case I'd imagine they'd be more open to letting Lewis Hall leave over Tonali.
Top midfielders are harder to come by and are typically far more expensive than fullbacks. Also Howe has often rotated Hall with Dan Burn at LB, partially due to Hall having a few more issues with injuries, but also for tactical reasons. Also there are rumours that the relationship between Hall and Howe is not the best.
Personally I'd be happy with either of Hall or Tonali, although I have a mild concern over Hall's injury record, but probably not enough to feel that he would be a bad or risky signing. I'm a massive fan of Tonali and think he'd be a phenomenal signing (even at the 90m rumoured that Newcastle would demand). I feel he is massively underrated, partially due to how Newcastle play. He's a tenacious warrior off the ball who covers every blade of grass, has great experience, shows leadership on the pitch, and is far more technically gifted than most people realise (due to Newcastle's playing style), while he's also very intelligent and can adapt to many different tactical demands or playing styles. However, he's very similar to Ederson who we have just signed for around half of what Newcastle are demanding for Tonali. With that signing all but sealed now I would imagine we'd want to sign another midfielder with a slightly different profile now rather than one with a very similar one.
Personally I feel we need a proper holding (sitting) midfielder next, someone who'll be the central hub and knit the whole team together. Ideally they would be tall, good in the air, have elite reading of the game, be press resistant, and have a great passing range. Effectively they would be a Carrick 2.0. I've seen Mainoo being asked to play that role more under Carrick and while I think he has most of the tools to play that role (he'll need to work on his passing range, but will probably never become dominant aerially), I'm not sure if it's the most natural role for him.
He's very press resistant, and great at dropping deep to take the ball off the CB's, and he's fantastic at carrying the ball forward and using his dribbling ability in tight spaces to break lines of pressure. His passing over short and medium distances is great, but over longer distances it can be a little hit and miss (partially I think because he isn't looking that far ahead so misses the opportunities to hit early longer balls in behind the opposition). However, personally I feel he is best suited to playing more as a free 8. Given the freedom to drop in and help out where we need him, but also able to get forward and be that late arriving midfielder into the box to make the most of his excellent shooting.
I think while Mainoo can do a good job as a No.6 (as long as he has someone more athletic and aggressive alongside him), it probably doesn't get the most out of him.
Add to that we will have Ederson, Mount and probably Ugarte as the other options currently, I feel that a natural No.6 type holding midfielder is what we need most, which isn't Tonali's best role (although like Mainoo he can play this role if needed). Ederson in my opinion is everything we hoped Ugarte would be and as such he'd be a great replacement if we can move Ugarte on this summer.
I'm intrigued by the links to Mateus Fernandes, another player I really rate. He's another all round midfielder who can play many different roles and is tactically intelligent enough to do well in any of them. He'd be a good replacement for Mount. Alex Scott would be another great shout for this role.
Yet it is a natural No.6 that is still missing, a role that has at times been most effectively covered by Casemiro (although he's been excellent this season when he's been able to get further forward).
Tchouameni would be the dream signing, Baleba would be a solid signing with great potential, other options that fit the role could be: Angelo Stiller, Tyler Adams, Eduardo Camavinga, Reuben Neves, Boubacar Kamara, James Garner, Lucien Agoume, Lamine Camara, Ayyoub Bouaddi, Pablo Barrios, or Mamadou Sangare.
Some have great potential, others would be really solid options. Personally, unless you can get a generational talent in this role then I'm not sure it's worth spending a huge amount here. Mostly because while I think it's a vital profile our squad needs, it's not a profile we need in every single game and maybe not even for the whole 90 minutes in games either. It's a role we need in the big games and the tough away games, but probably not at home against mid-table or bottom half sides.
We need this player in games where we won't dominate possession and will need to be able to defend as much as we attack.
4.) 07 Jun 2026 13:20:41
Shappy,
Stiller reminds me of Carrick. He would be a good alternative and cheaper than Tonali. I know Baleba has had a good season, but I really rate him. I think he would be a great signing for around £50 million.
5.) 07 Jun 2026 20:13:20
It feels like Baleba remains of interest, and it doesn't look like he's high up on anyone else's shopping list. Maybe that should be a concern, especially if Brighton are still demanding elite money. He did improve towards the end of the season (wonder why?), but was pretty average otherwise compared to last season.
6.) 08 Jun 2026 10:11:44
I was meant to put: hasn't had a good season.
14 Aug 2025 11:54:01
Looks like collyer going on loan to West brom
Good for him hope he does well.
1.) 14 Aug 2025 14:11:45
Best idea for him at hopefully a top championship club. Will either mean he comes back ready to compete or we are able to sell on.
Good luck to him.
2.) 14 Aug 2025 15:30:34
Even more depleted in central midfield then. Surely there has to be another coming in.
3.) 14 Aug 2025 16:13:37
If you believe Cameroonian media outlets, then there is ballons!
4.) 14 Aug 2025 16:42:32
Even before Collyer we were light in midfield, maybe not from a numbers point of view, but certainly in terms of the quality needed in that area.
We would have Casemiro, Ugarte, Mainoo, Bruno in his likely new role and then from youth we would have Kone when he recovers. All for 2 spots. Bruno is a guarantee starter, so it’s one more needed. Unfortunately none of the others have the skills or talent required. So a new player is definitely needed.
I would say there is 0.1% chance of Baleba happening due to the £100m+ valuation.
Seen Wharton mentioned recently, but I’d imagine Palace will have a similar valuation. So probably another with zero chance.
Guess it’s down to whether the club want to go with a player way down their list of targets or wait it out until next season.
I’m hoping they break the bank for Baleba, but I’m not hopeful.
5.) 14 Aug 2025 18:54:08
Why zero chance fall guy have you been listening to the back of fag packet know it alls on here about we have no money!
6.) 14 Aug 2025 20:19:21
While I'd like to think that Collyer going on loan must mean we are signing a midfielder I sadly expect that it was always the case that one of Collyer or Kone would go out on loan to get game time this season.
We play with a midfield pivot, meaning there will only be two places up for grabs. Which without European games reduces the amount of rotation we need to make.
We have Casemiro, Ugarte, Bruno and Mainoo nailed down as the four senior options. Really we need one youth option who will play under 23's most weeks but can come into the first team squad for some games to cover for injuries.
They seem to have made the decision to keep Kone with the squad and develop him in house this season. They seemed to come to this conclusion while on tour, which makes sense that a couple of weeks after we've got back we are hearing about loan deals being lined up for Collyer.
That said I still think we will sign Baleba. I just think that one of Collyer or Kone was always going to go out on loan regardless this season to get the senior game time they need.
7.) 14 Aug 2025 20:54:14
Didn’t say zero chance. Almost zero though.
It’s been widely reported that Brighton will want north of £100m. Although this is unconfirmed it’s likely fairly true based on what Chelsea paid for Caicedo.
They don’t have to sell so are unlikely to reduce the price.
United aren’t going out spending that kind of money this window.
21 Jul 2025 17:36:44
Looks like vietek and Harrison are both leaving on loan again. Really important for young keepers to get experience.
There was some suggestions on here that they play a part of our 1st team squad this season. I for one am glad that's not happening i hope they both get good game time and start learning their trade. Its the one position that we rarely young kids get experience in the epl.
1.) 21 Jul 2025 17:50:05
It was clear they both need loan time, no way we can stick a rookie in goal, Chido needs to go loan too, he not ready to be our number 9 1st or 2nd choice.
I know some think pick the kids, but really probably only 1 maybe 2 might be good enough.
They need the experience I would say the same with Leon too, he is not Roberto Carlos like he thinks, quit yet.
2.) 21 Jul 2025 19:49:11
Agree on obi but not Leon he had been playing mens diurnal for a year so a bit ahead. Only saw him for 45 min but he looks very aggressive and maturity in his play beyond his age.
Wide areas are also easier for younger players in a lot of cases.
3.) 22 Jul 2025 00:40:50
Are you already suggesting Leon has an attitude issue? Why does he think he’s roberto Carlos?
4.) 22 Jul 2025 09:44:14
I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that the academy keepers be first choice, just given a run out in pre-season to see if they could be a squad option if needed.
Although I fully agree that they are much better placed having a loan for a season and playing mens football regularly.
Chido in an ideal world would also be better off with a loan, but with a dearth of options at the club then he will probably get more chances here this season then he probably should at this stage.
Diego Leon has been playing senior football for a while and is far more ready than the others mentioned. Like Ken said playing wide is also easier for young players with less pressure. It might have only been 45 minutes but he does look more ready to play at this level than Amass does. So I can understand why the club are looking to loan Amass and keep Leon.
Ultimately all youngsters will have rough edges to their game that needs rounding out, and they will make mistakes. How they learn from them ultimately determines the player they become.
We have a lot of talented young players in our first team squad, players like Yoro, Heaven, Fredricson, Dorgu, Leon, Mainoo, Collyer, Kone, Amad, Chido and Højlund.
Not all will make it at the highest level, even the ones that ultimately do, will make mistakes along the way.
We need to get behind them and support them rather than tear them down, I can assure you they will do that enough by themselves. We forget what it was like to be a young man trying to find his place in the world, second guessing ourselves, and repeatedly going over our mistakes. Even the ones who portray confidence bordering on arrogance are internally questioning themselves.
I also think that this modern world of social media only amplifies the negatives around people and their actions. Which given the way the younger generations are glued to their phones probably makes it that much harder for young footballers who will likely see a lot of the negative options on them that float around social media.
I do know of a couple of young EPL footballers whose management team around them ban the player from all social media for 3 days after they play any senior game to protect them both from the negatives and the hype that tends to follow. To give them space to reflect on their performance themselves and with they're coaches to form their opinions before they get influenced by the views on social media.
As fans as supposed "supporters" we probably should think before we type in frustration. Will our anger and negativity have a positive effect if the young player reads it? Probably not, in reality it'll probably have a negative impact. Especially if it is one of thousands saying the same thing.
Players in their mid-twenties with over 200 professional games under their belt should have the emotional maturity and experience to handle criticism and to be able to put it in context. Teenagers or lads just entering their twenties will likely not yet have that emotional maturity or experience.
Maybe imagine that if the player was your son, how would you want thousands of people to react, and what would you want them to say about a poor performance from him? Then maybe respond like that.
The best advice I ever received was "a wise man stays silent when angry" as words said in anger cannot be taken back, and often cause irreparable damage.
5.) 22 Jul 2025 21:34:23
German how do you know what Leon thinks?
6.) 23 Jul 2025 06:32:00
Ken the same way you seem to know how we all think!
7.) 23 Jul 2025 21:40:53
Great to see you can read and write Shappy :-)
I was one of those who suggested lifting some youth to the first team, and also supplementing with a Lammens or Garcia - with the view that both Onana and Bayendir were being shipped out - that isn't the case now it seems.
For those who can't read - try to read between the lines and you may be less obtrusive in your responses.
8.) 24 Jul 2025 10:37:40
Jimbo, I think at the end of the season there was a lot of unknowns around our keepers.
Heaton was out of contract, Bayindir showed himself to not being up to challenging Onana. While Onana continued to struggle (although I do feel that it is being overstated/ hyped about how much he has struggled) .
Under such circumstances where we could have lost all three first team keepers it made perfect sense to bring in two new keepers and promote an academy keeper to be third choice. However, that isn't what has happened.
While I don't think Onana is anywhere near as bad as he is being made out, he will need replacing. The trouble is that we won't be able to move him on this year. Partially because of his high wages and the fee we paid for him means we need a significant fee for him. But also because the hype in the press and on social media about how poor he's been will have put off any potential buyers.
That's something we don't consider enough as fans, but what we say about our players online does reverberate across the football landscape more so than a lot of other fan bases. We are partially responsible for creating the narrative around our players and that narrative will impact potential buyers for our players.
This was definitely the case when it came to selling Mason Greenwood. The noise out fans made around him and the whole situation only added fuel to the fire which definitely impacted other clubs who were looking at him. We helped create the negativity around him that made fans of other clubs not want him to sign for their club which definitely put some teams off as they didn't want the public backlash from their fans.
Look at Nicolas Jackson for example, he's a very good player, but one who struggles with one aspect as a striker. Yet the majority of the negativity around him online doesn't actually come from Chelsea fans. As such they will still be able to get a good fee for him (more than they paid for him) . Now if he'd been at United for the past couple of seasons he'd probably be spoken about in a similar way to how Højlund has been. Which would make it almost impossible for us to sell him for even what we paid for him let alone a profit.
We want to sell Højlund, but can anyone hand on heart say that if they were in charge of another club and having heard what United fans say about him that they would be interested in signing him?
Ultimately some signings work out and others don't. United fans have a habit of writing off every one that doesn't as the biggest flop in history and speak about them like they aren't even Sunday league level.
Yet in reality a lot of our "flops" in recent years have gone on to be successful elsewhere.
I suspect many of Onana, Antony, Rashford, and Højlund etc will have very successful careers when they leave us.
Yet all have been spoken about by United fans as if it's a miracle that they ever managed to become professional footballers.
With Onana now unlikely to leave and with Heaton signing a new one year deal it looks like Bayindir will be the only one to leave. With us looking to sign a higher quality keeper to come in and challenge Onana for the No.1 spot. Which gives us no room in the first team squad for a young academy keeper, so it's best they leave on loan.
With a bit of luck the new keeper we sign this summer steps up and takes Onana's place and then he moves on next summer. Probably along with Heaton retiring. At which point with two keepers leaving we sign one and promote one of the lads who have hopefully had a good season on loan this year.
9.) 26 Jul 2025 05:51:04
It’s not the fans so much, but the Manager and RA in this respect as devalued his own players considerably, TBF no one pays much attention to fans ramblings when they are buying or valuing a player, but they certainly do to a fellow professional (manager) when he says they have crap attitude, not good at this or that, that certainly devalues a player, did he think he was adding millions to there value with such naive remarks!
RA not helped himself here.
18 Jul 2025 17:42:47
Amass left out of pre season tour. Either a loan or full sale incoming. Leon is impressing in training apparently.
1.) 18 Jul 2025 18:08:53
Not really a surprise.
I like Amass, but he does seem to lack that physical edge for the EPL - hopefully he just goes out on loan, maybe that could bring out that extra level.
For the sake of his career though, in light of how quickly Leon is settling and showing, he needs regular minutes.
Best of luck to him.
2.) 18 Jul 2025 19:19:22
Send him to Blackburn and toughen him up ? i like him, there's talent there.
3.) 18 Jul 2025 20:27:24
Sell him with a few clauses inserted.
4.) 18 Jul 2025 20:40:32
He's going on loan I believe.
5.) 18 Jul 2025 21:16:59
The last young left back we sold has ended up at Real Madrid….
6.) 18 Jul 2025 21:26:38
I'd imagine a loan, he's got talent, he's just a little lightweight right now. He needs to grow into his body, that'll take time.
7.) 18 Jul 2025 21:48:39
I think that’s fair Shappy. He looks too small right now. Some adult first team action elsewhere will sort that out.
8.) 19 Jul 2025 03:20:58
If I was a betting man, I would say Leon will have cemented his position as LWB by Xmas. Dorgu will be understudy. Come next summer, the conundrum will be do we stick or twist with Amass/ Dorgu. 3 into 2 doesn't work.
9.) 19 Jul 2025 10:05:35
He is not going to be sold, a loan to a Championship team is the intention.
They want him playing regularly, he needs this to happen as physicality is his issue, not ability.
He is still highly regarded at the club. Indeed one of the reasons Alvaro Carreras was allowed to leave was that the club felt that Amass had a higher potential ability ceiling. Also, it needs to be remembered that Alvaro requested a transfer and the club would not want to keep a youngster who expressed a desire to leave.
10.) 19 Jul 2025 11:02:01
That's a bold statement to make about a player you have never even seen play before jimbo.
11.) 19 Jul 2025 11:39:25
Very bold statement, whilst I agree Dorgu will only be understudy, it’s something to say that’s to a player we never ever seen play regularly in the EPL, but of course the kid talks like he is Roberto Carlos just hope he can back it up. But to imagine he will be first choice is a stretch by Christmas… hope it’s right, but I think maybe wishful thinking more than reality.
12.) 19 Jul 2025 21:27:24
Ken/ GSC, he is competing against Dorgu who looks lost at times.
They will fight it out, but he looks the part, and talks the talk.
We will see by Xmas.
13.) 20 Jul 2025 01:40:45
Dorgu was the best player today, hopefully a sign of things to come now he’s settled, the kid is a workhorse.
14.) 20 Jul 2025 09:53:04
I think some people have been very quick to right Dorgu off. He was highly rated when he signed, and he clearly has all the right qualities to be a very successful signing.
But joining a club in January makes it very hard to for a player to be instantly successful. Vidic and Evra had a pretty poor start to their United careers after joining in January. While they also had the luxury of joining a very good United side full of quality players and under arguably our best ever manager. They were also several years older than Dorgu with far more experience to lean on and help them early on in their United career. Even with all of those extra benefits they still struggled, and arguably had less of an impact in their first 5 months as United players.
Dorgu looked very good yesterday. He is now more settled at the club, he is having a pre-season with us, getting to grips with the tactical demands from the manager, settling better with his teammates and building those on field relationships.
I think he'll have a very good season with us. Obviously he'll make mistakes from time to time and his performance levels will not be consistent, as you'd expect from any 20 year old. He'll cement his place as the first choice LWB this year.
Luke Shaw looks like he'll be played at LCB, which makes the most sense for me. The wingback positions is the most physically demanding position on the pitch, and while Shaw's skillset looks well suited to the role, we know his body doesn't stand up well to the physical demands at LB let alone the more demanding wingback role. Maybe playing LCB is his best chance of actually staying fit, although I feel that might just be a fools hope.
Amass will almost certainly head out on loan, he needs to play regularly at senior level to develop his physicality. He's a little on the small side, but the real problem is he doesn't know how to use his body at this level. His small stature should give him a lower centre of gravity and make him harder to push off the ball, but he doesn't know how to use his weight correctly right now and is getting bundled off the ball far too easily. A year in the championship should do him wonders.
Diego Leon impressed yesterday in spells, but was clearly still getting to grips with the club and the increase in speed and the physical demands in Europe compared to South America. I think he'll stay as the understudy to Dorgu this season.
Next summer depending on how both Leon and Amass have done the club will have a decision to make about whether to let one leave either permanently or on loan, or maybe both and look to buy another LWB if neither show that they have what is required.
Dorgu though I'm fairly confident will have shown himself to be a very good player for us by this time next year.
15.) 20 Jul 2025 16:08:39
Why do supporters try to judge players and likeness them to another from a past era. it’s quite pathetic If Dorgu becomes half the players Evra and Vidic was it will be something and we have to be fair he not looked great so far, I seem to remember someone mentioning Shaw was world class!
I know supporters love the romance of kids breaking through, some were even saying one of them for GK and Chido for striker neither are ready yet that’s quite clear
I still say pound to a penny, Dalot will be RB number 1 choice and Dorgu was only bought for back up
We need to buy some Pace and some experience, for CB Midfield and CF, they are all necessary 100%.
16.) 20 Jul 2025 21:50:43
I been told by a relative that Preston want him on loan for the season, good club, good fans have good links to all big clubs in NE.
17.) 20 Jul 2025 23:10:53
GSC your above post implies Dorgu is backup to Dalot. they play on opposite sides of the pitch fella.
18.) 23 Jul 2025 17:42:26
You need to read up on Dorgu and his favoured position from his own words.
Dorgu can play left or right, in fact states he prefers right, but I did not imply back up to where, just he bought to be a back up…simples.
23 Jun 2025 22:10:31
BBC reporting we are in advanced talks with al nassar for casimero. No figures mentioned. Maybe a gift for ronaldo signing his contract. Selling him for 10.m +And saving 18m on wages would be a dream result.
With the new financial year kicking in i think it likely we will see some sales and income coming in from 1st July.
They in turn will help unlock some expenditure. Should be a very busy 21 days.
1.) 24 Jun 2025 02:10:56
Kinda torn on this one. His best days are clearly behind him, and his wages far exceed the value that he adds to the team, but he at least cares about winning. He tries his best week in week out, which is more than can be said for most of the players at the club.
Obviously, we take the money, but there are plenty of players I’d rather see leave than Cas.
2.) 24 Jun 2025 06:01:08
Exactly Redseven, Cass is total professional, mind you you don’t get to win what he has without being…. Plenty I like to see shown the door before him, money side of it, is no concern of mine, too many people get hung up on the £££s the club don’t have no concerns about taking ridiculous money for me to attend, travel, buy a burger buy a pint, so why should I care about there finances, they employ accountants to do that…. my concern is a winning team.
3.) 24 Jun 2025 08:43:00
Casimero has been a great professional whilst with us and offers nothing but 100% and as we saw last year still can perform. However, we need to get legs in the middle of the park to allow us to play Fernandes or Mainoo in there so I am okay with him going, get wages off and bring in another player.
Would be happy with a midfield rotation of Fernandes, Mainoo, Ugarte, New signing, supplemented by Collyer and the youth players.
4.) 24 Jun 2025 09:15:06
People are hung up on the money though German because it impacts what the club can and cannot do within the transfer window. I don't think any of us have the greatest grasp on FFP and PSR but we do know the club is not in the best position financially so any sale of a player on high wages and any bid from Saudi you hope comes in over the odds is going to help with what the club can do in the window which leads to having a winning team, hopefully.
5.) 24 Jun 2025 16:25:15
Midfield of can’t pass a ball 10 yards headless chicken Ugarte and no legs or mobility Mainoo, with Collyer back up will be awful, as seen last months of the season Cass kept them all out the team, so that would be a step backwards imo…
so missing 25% of your games is good? Oh great….
6.) 24 Jun 2025 23:23:50
Maze would you get of your cross mate. It's not just the odd post you parade negative on it's everybody's Post. I hate to read anyone's posts because I know that when a good healthy debate opens up. Your odds on to project gross negative attitude into it.
Go hustle on the LFC page cause your the biggest and darkest cloud with nothing positive
SNIYGNGTS.
7.) 25 Jun 2025 06:26:02
Red villain, sorry did not realise there was much to be positive about, please enlighten me with all the positives with United, so I can have a party!
Easy answer skip my post or you the woke brigade and people can only comment if it’s all nice and fluffy comment…. get in the real world not the fluffy woke 2025 world.
8.) 25 Jun 2025 21:37:04
2 proven PL players whos runs in the first 5 games of the season had a higher workrate than most.
A manager with a pair of steel ones that has seen what we have been saying for ages
Finally the dead wood and the badd eggs are getting the boot
That's all the positives I need to be happy
Add a GK and real CF and I'll be F. Ecstatic for the season
Ps I've just got the black jersey for a £10 And it's perfect so get in.
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15 Jun 2026 11:20:40
Redman, you might get your wish now Madrid have signed a proper lb our ex academy kid might be available. Not up to the job in Madrid. We did well getting what we got for him.
1.) 15 Jun 2026 13:19:50
Jose knows you need experienced players when building a team. I know everyone keeps mentioning to keep buying young potential, but you just have to have experience in there first & foremost, then you can afford to sprinkle a few youngsters, and it helps them no end.
Same with our striker, sign an experienced one for him to learn off, along with a very experienced CB with pace, and along with the midfield, hopefully we get them, and we will be in a much better place...
Trent might be up for sale. I would take him. Please, Jose.
2.) 15 Jun 2026 13:54:33
TW
We got €6M and maybe a little extra in a sell on. Benfica got what was it €55M. We missed out on the big money. Have Madrid said Alvaro is surplus?
3.) 15 Jun 2026 15:56:07
No, but he will be back up 3rd choice now, as he was 2nd choice. He didn't do well, and will probably get sold next summer. Our total income was £16.2m, which was all profit.
He was totally out of his depth in Madrid.
He is a good player, but not up to the EPL physically, either.
The Portuguese league suited him. He might get a good loan deal. He is a good player. I was only pulling your leg. He will find his level, but was completely overhyped coming out of that poor league.
4.) 15 Jun 2026 19:27:08
Tw
Maybe. Haven't watched Madrid or him there. Said a few times, at Preston he had a nice left foot, and was ok physically in that league. If we got £16m in total, that's decent, the £50m would have been better. Still think he would have been better than Malacia.
Certainly interested in Hall at Lb.
5.) 15 Jun 2026 21:14:00
Yeah, I like Hall Redman. It would be a good signing imo.
6.) 18 Jun 2026 06:48:05
Redman, you're absolutely right that he is a far better player than Malacia. But Malacia had a torrid time with injuries after looking reasonably decent in his first season. Plus, at the point we signed Malacia, Carreras wasn't nearly ready for first-team minutes. Probably he should've been given a chance rather than sold to Benfica for peanuts, though.
11 Jun 2026 16:40:14
I read an interesting piece today that suggests that Ederson could play a role at rb this summer for Brazil.
Potentially an interesting option for us there going forward. It might give us another option at rb too.
1.) 11 Jun 2026 18:59:36
He has been called up by Brazil due to the withdrawal, through injury, of Wesley.
He was due to play as their first-choice right-back.
I suspect a bit of adding 2+2 and getting 5.
I have to say, I was a bit surprised they called up a midfielder to replace a first-choice defender.
Brazilian way of doing things, I suppose.
2.) 11 Jun 2026 20:01:48
He has been playing right back in training, and Ancelotti spoke about it at his press conference. He said that he has strong options there, with Danilo and now Ederson, who has surprised him there. I'm not suggesting he will be our rb, I just thought it interesting that he could be an option there.
3.) 11 Jun 2026 20:19:17
O.K. Fair enough, Ken. Did not see that.
He is known for his running power and ball winning, so could well make sense to give him a go there.
Would be one huge bonus if he did turn out to be a good option there, turning a good bargain into an outstanding one.
4.) 11 Jun 2026 22:32:34
I always thought our 2007/08 side was our best - better than the treble side. A big reason for that was how balanced we were with Hargreaves at right back. He often moved in field but gave width when needed. It was such a pity he couldn't stay fit. If Ederson can perform that role I'd be thrilled.
08 Jun 2026 19:19:38
From a United point of view Ederson going to the WC is not ideal. I don't expect he will play too much but it would have been nice to have him for the full pre season.
The other 2 we have been mainly liked with are not going to the WC in Fernandes and Tonali.
England Brazil and Portugal will go deep into the tournament and we have players in those squads best we can hope for is they all get through without injury.
1.) 09 Jun 2026 00:00:52
On the other hand, the confidence it could give him might push him onto another level. I hope so, at any rate.
2.) 09 Jun 2026 01:02:07
Lost total respect for you, Ken.
You stated that a soul that dropped dead for the second time on a football pitch, is fine. Brushing it off as insignificance.
You then moan about someone playing for their country may pick up an injury and will cause problems for your team for a.little while.
I am happy I only know of you from this site
3.) 09 Jun 2026 06:32:00
Fantastic monkey balls i couldn't give a monkeys what you think.
Just for the record ericksen never dropped dead on a football pitch to the best of my knowledge never mind twice what a ridiculous statement. The quote from him and his doctor was 'he /im fine the pacemaker did its job.
As for players potentially getting injured, i hope they dont, like i said in my post.
Its not ideal for united that ederson was called up. You must have no respect for sir alex Ferguson who talked players out of traveling to intl games and asked them to limit their minutes wherever possible.
Or pep or klopp. I couldn't give a monkeys balls how their national teams do in the wc. I just hope none of them get injured. i'd rather they were all at home having a nice rest and holiday and getting ready for the team i do give a monkeys ball about.
Ive zero respect for you for claiming the death then resurrection then 2nd death of a footballer who never died and is in good shape due to the mecicle device doing its job. Stop claiming people have died twice its ridiculas disrespectful and untrue, so the feeling its mutual. ???
4.) 09 Jun 2026 06:36:28
Possibly Don. As long as he stays fit, that's the main thing. He probably won't get a lot of mins, but I'm sure he's delighted.
5.) 09 Jun 2026 08:58:47
I'm glad he was called up. In fact, I was more concerned that he wasn't; did that signify his lack of overall quality? Like, why has Fernandes not made the Portugal squad?
Anyway - he's not actually our player yet, officially, so let's see.
6.) 09 Jun 2026 09:07:13
Deliberately signed out and deleted my credentials to have a break from this place. Checked back in.
Nice to see nothing changes..
7.) 09 Jun 2026 11:39:00
? And now you're back, from outer space. ?
8.) 09 Jun 2026 12:26:09
? Only to find that Ken is still wearing Jamie Carragher's face. ?
9.) 09 Jun 2026 14:37:11
Eric, I think it's a pretty tough midfield to get into. 2 lads from PSG, Silva from City, Bruno from United.
10.) 09 Jun 2026 17:14:51
Very good Danny. ??
11.) 09 Jun 2026 22:49:02
He was technically dead in 2021, but thankfully Boesen managed to revive Eriksen. The same thing happened to Eriksen a few days ago, and the ICD did the reviving part that Boesen was previously credited for.
The fact someone is still alive after these events is an absolute miracle, but I can assure you that they are far from fine.
But, knowing this isn't your opinion based on 'the best of your knowledge', it is obviously clearly wrong.
12.) 10 Jun 2026 00:20:52
He won't be running any marathons any time soon, that's for sure.
He said he was looking forward to going on holiday and spending time playing some football with his kids.
He has a condition that he will have to watch. I'd imagine his career is over in terms of playing professionally. He's had a good run at it and achieved plenty.
'He's fine' suggests he is not hospitalised, not in any danger, he is home and off on his holidays next week. He has had a second fright, so he needs to listen to the best advice, im sure he has been planning his life after football for the last couple of years, he may have to accelerate those plans a year or 2 earlier than he hoped.
13.) 10 Jun 2026 01:10:26
A well thought out response.
For the little it means to you, a slice of pie has been eaten and some respect has been earnt back.
14.) 10 Jun 2026 08:43:13
I don't need it, or I don't want your respect, it's unimportant and irrelevant to me. You've not gained any of mine, which is again equally unimportant to me, and it would be to you. A stage on the Internet, I don't need anything from you. My response has not changed. I've added context for the super sensitive who are too quick to get a bee in their bonnet.
Just so you know, he was not technically dead and was never once declared dead. Have a bit of respect for poor Christian's family; going around peddling stories of death is not respectful to them or him in any way.
You can have a cardiac arrest without being technically dead. Good job at the 1st incident by the medical team, they never once did declare him dead.
15.) 10 Jun 2026 11:15:48
? Can you feel the love tonight. ?
16.) 10 Jun 2026 10:45:42
Respect instantly retracted.
Surprised you can speak or see with your head so far up your own.
17.) 10 Jun 2026 17:30:16
Great I feel better now.
18.) 10 Jun 2026 18:20:58
And just to set you straight, even Eriksen talked about remembering everything "except those minutes when I was in heaven". So, unless the man was Enoch in a previous life, he had to be dead for those minutes. Anyhow, at least we all now know the reasoning behind the name, Tumbleweed.
19.) 10 Jun 2026 18:48:25
Did he say if he got the chance to have a cup of tea with Elvis?
20.) 10 Jun 2026 19:17:40
No, but he did mention seeing your wit, though. That clearly died a very long time ago!
21.) 10 Jun 2026 21:22:16
Lol what is this thread. ?
22.) 10 Jun 2026 21:59:59
?? Unruly, the thread is dead. But it might come back to life a couple of times.
23.) 10 Jun 2026 22:02:11
No idea, Unruly. ?
03 Jun 2026 14:31:26
I think next season will be tough on the promoted teams.
Promoted teams often struggle, although only one went down lady session in Burnley with Sunderland having an amazing season and Leeds were safe with plenty of games to spare.
Coventry, Hull and Ipswich all look very light to me.
I don't see any of them doing what Sunderland did this season.
I'd like to see West Ham come straight back up.
Usually there's a team that falls into that dog fight that you don't expect. I wonder who it will be next season. Maybe one of the 3 that lost their manager recently.
1.) 03 Jun 2026 15:58:27
I'm not so sure, Ken.
I think that Sunderland have given promoted teams a template to succeed. For a few seasons, the promoted teams tried to play Pep style football and weren't good enough. Sunderland showed how being a bit more pragmatic can work. I can see the newly promoted sides focusing on being difficult to beat, rather than trying to play beautiful football.
2.) 03 Jun 2026 17:02:23
Think it could all depend on their incomings this summer.
Sunderland did particularly well on that front last year, so much so that a number of their players are now looked upon with envious eyes by others.
Think the fates of the new boys will be pretty much decided by the end of the transfer window.
3.) 03 Jun 2026 23:59:42
I genuinely thought Sunderland and Leeds would stay up this year.
I didn't see Sunderland do as well as they did.
I honestly can't see any of the promoted teams staying up this season. Maybe Coventry at a pinch.
02 Jun 2026 14:19:51
Really saddened by the news today of 2 Liverpool legends and indeed British footballing legends in Kenny Dalglish and Kevin Keegan facing a battle against a cancer diagnosis.
I wish them both well. 2 great football adversaries but also 2 great professionals also who have the respect of most footballing fans around the world for their achievements.
Good luck gents in your battle, you both showed great tenacity in your professional life and I'm sure you will show the same fight to try and beat this awful disease.
1.) 02 Jun 2026 18:50:47
I completely agree. I guess the youngsters will only remember them as Managers and not as the great players they were.
Keegan won 3 League titles and a European Cup, before going to Hamburg in '77, and then winning the Ballon d'Or in '78 and '79.
Dalglish won 6 First Division and 3 European Cups at Liverpool.
Amazing players, I wish them well.
2.) 02 Jun 2026 19:36:36
Totally agree, Ken, fine, fine players and significant adversaries.
'I'd love it' if they get through their ordeals with success.
3.) 02 Jun 2026 20:30:14
Agree. At times like this, tribal rivalries are irrelevant. Always respected both players' talent on the field, and Dalgliesh even more for how he was after the terrible tragedy Liverpool supporters suffered during his tenure as manager.
4.) 02 Jun 2026 22:22:36
John Barnes now too... Thoughts and best wishes to all 3. Absolute legends no matter where your allegiances lie. ?
5.) 03 Jun 2026 11:37:03
Good post, Ken. 2 legends of the game.
Really enjoyed Dalglish's most recent interview on The Overlap. It was brilliant. Highly recommend.
6.) 03 Jun 2026 23:55:01
Dalglish was the best Scottish player I've ever seen.
And I always had a soft spot for Keegan. Real heart on the sleeve type of guy.
15 Jun 2026 15:35:04
Better cement him in.
13 Jun 2026 00:42:02
You're right, I don't know, but it's reported by most reputable journalists that this is the case.
It was reported that he did reduce his wage demands for Barcelona, but they chose to sign Gordon, who has been much better over the last 3 seasons. He has his contract with United; it's up to him to decide if he wants to stay or leave and earn less.
There's lots we don't know for sure about many things, but when something is being said by most top reporters and news outlets, there's often some truth in it.
The drain of 1.2m per month on cash flow for one player is not something most clubs can justify for a player who has been as up and down as Rashford.
I'm sure he would do well at Bayern or most teams he would go to, but his wages are a problem for most clubs. There can only be fewer than a dozen who earn more in the EPL.
You don't know that Konate is getting 400k a week, but that's been reported, I'm sure. But even if he was, it's cheaper than buying Rashford and maintaining his wages.
Do Arsenal, Villa, or Chelsea want to make him their highest-paid player? He would be in the top 5 earners at Barcelona if they had to maintain it.
If he seeks compensation from United in order to offset his wage reduction, then we lose some of the 26m fee to pay him off.
He shouldn't lose out financially too badly either way. United refused to pay Maguire that compensation, so he refused to move; I think it was to West Ham, I can't remember.
Maintaining his wage, or even 60% of it, is a huge problem for most clubs, and those that can afford it have better players.
Clubs are in a tough spot on it really.
12 Jun 2026 16:33:07
It's been 3 years since he scored the amount Cunha did last season for us, so I'm not sure about that.
Barcelona thought his wages were a problem.
Bayern say they are a problem. Villa thought the same.
If he is a rotation player, the wages are too high for most clubs. If he is a nailed-on starter, then you'd argue that's what many regular starters earn, but he's not been, and I don't think, if push comes to shove, he would be a starter for Bayern ahead of Diaz, Kane or Olisse.
Great option for them as cover imo. I think he would do great in that league, it's pretty poor, and we've seen others excel there like Sancho, Bellingham, Kagawa, Miki, etc. They looked like world beaters in that league.
12 Jun 2026 12:50:45
Spenno, on the face of it, the fee of 26m is great value, imo.
However, his wages are completely prohibitive.
The overall cost of signing him is horrendous.
He started less than half of Barcelona's games, so nobody wants to pay a rotation player that much. Every 1st 11 player will have their hand out looking for parity.
If he takes lower wages, then he would be good value, but he probably needs to offer a 30/40% drop in wages.
Bayern are one club who need good cover for their front 3, and he would probably get good game time, they're covering for their preferred front 3.
Barcelona will come back in offering a loan last minute.com, but maybe not.
Villa had a look, didn't buy him. Barca had a look, won't buy him. Why? Finances are 1 reason, no doubt, but there must be other reasons.
Gordon speaks better Spanish than him already.
He, imo, appears to have put in the absolute minimum effort to integrate himself into the culture/language, etc.
I saw nothing in any of his actions that screamed to Barca that they must sign him.
He will do ok wherever he goes, as he does have good attributes, but he does need to work harder to convince people he is worth the money, imo.
11 Jun 2026 16:57:02
We'll just have to wait and see. No offers for him yet. Not sure Bayern will sell Olisse. Rashford does not like playing on the right side, but he would be great cover for Diaz on the opposite side.
Hopefully, someone comes up with an offer to buy him.
But his wages are very high, and he wouldn't command a 1st 11 spot in most of the
Top sides, so it's a lot of wages for a squad player, imo. The fee is low, but the overall cost for what he offers is unattractive for most clubs.
19 Jun 2026 17:52:44
Our no1 target chose City.
Nobody knows who our targets are, really.
You can't believe almost all you read or hear.
I know we won't have the ideal squad, but I know we will have a better one on paper, anyway.
None of you had us down for 3rd last season. None of you had us down for 3rd when Carrick stated.
It's been years since City, United, Liverpool and Chelsea, Spurs plus (I think nearly 50% of the teams have a new coach/manager) all started the season with a new manager.
Lots of significant player departures too.
We might buy very well, or some signings might flop.
I think they will do their best to get the best deals done. As usual, 90% on here will disapprove and will know exactly what will happen.
The same 90% who got it wrong last year. ?
It's frustrating, but it's a waiting game. DB Ederson might come in, surprise a few and be excellent. He might be the next Kleberson. Who knows?
18 Jun 2026 21:43:07
I go along with that, Salford. All his career, he has been a great team player.
Selfish and greedy at times, but all forwards are, should be, and need to be.
At this point in his career, he is chasing numbers and individual targets.
I think his coach and teammates need to help him understand where and when he can make the best impact nowadays at this level. I think that's off the bench, but I'm not picking the team. ?
18 Jun 2026 16:00:38
Can we not just say well done to him. Over analysing everything is for the idiots in the British media.
18 Jun 2026 14:34:32
The team played well. Bellingham was very good, imo. Kane did what he does most of the time and scored.
Rashford did well when he came on, imo, and I thought Rice was very good as usual.
18 Jun 2026 14:31:51
It was a tough watch. For sure, playing with 10 men most of the match. Not sure they were playing with less than 10. ?
He is a box player only now in the main, and Umo should not be starting games on that basis alone.