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29 Apr 2026 09:58:03
It is being reported on Sky Sports that Barcelona want Rashford on a second-season-long loan rather than buy him.
1.) 29 Apr 2026 11:22:29
I fully expect us to tell Barca to take a long jump off a short plank. If we don't we will be a laughing stock and a easy mark in the future. Sell him elsewhere for more money, grasping soanish barstewards
2.) 29 Apr 2026 11:41:40
I suppose it comes down to how much of the transfer fee buys out his contract, versus gives us a profit. Does anyone know?
3.) 29 Apr 2026 12:03:45
This comes at the same time Barca are apparently looking at Alvarez, who would cost the best part of £100m, I'd expect. If they've got the cash for that, then they can pay the agreed fee for Rashford.
If not, I'm sure another club would, and Rashford would know that Barca isn't an option for him, as they've chosen not to sign him when it was entirely possible.
4.) 29 Apr 2026 12:30:28
Or just keep him and get over it. He's good. (When he can be motivated).
5.) 29 Apr 2026 13:14:41
Barcelona are always up to this type of stuff. They'll be in Rashford's ear trying to get him to agitate for the move - i.e. refusing to move anywhere other than Barcelona. They'll want us to be left with a choice between giving in to their demands, or being stuck with a player who doesn't want to be here, on huge wages.
If I were United, I'd tell Barca where to go, and give Rashford a choice between moving elsewhere or spending a year with the reserves.
6.) 29 Apr 2026 14:08:53
I can't believe anybody would want Rashford back. Besides Lingard, he is probably the epitome of everything wrong with the last 15 years of player culture at the club.
7.) 29 Apr 2026 15:24:11
Barcelona's loan deal for Marcus Rashford does not include an obligation to buy, but rather a non-mandatory option to purchase him for approximately £26m-EUR30m. He's paid approx. £325K per week. He'll never get that at Barce. He'll take his £17m for the 26/27 season and sign for them for free. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some obligation between Barce and Rashford already in place. There's not really anywhere else for him to go; no one's paying the money and no one's paying the wages. His contract must go down as one of the worst in the club's history. The best we can hope for is someone comes in for him; however, if he says no, there's nothing we can do, leaving the only option a Barce loan to get his wages off the books.
We've got Sancho, Casemiro, Malacia coming off the books, worth about £800k per week. Removing Rashford will push us to approx £1.1m. With maybe Ugarte and Zirkzee going, that is another £275k, so we'll have potentially £1.4m ish headroom for wages. To give some context, that weekly amount is higher than Everton's, with 10 teams having a lower weekly wage bill. We'll be able to sign some decent players, hopefully.
8.) 29 Apr 2026 17:24:41
We will have plenty of wage headroom, at least from an FFP point of view. Being in the Champions League, total squad cost can be up to 70% of revenues, which should comfortably exceed £700m next year. Right now, I believe squad cost is around 50% of total revenues. We'll be losing at least £100m a year in existing squad cost. Casemiro alone is £60m wages + amortization; Sancho's and Hojlund's amortization is around a further £30. That's before considering other sales.
Zirkzee? Ugarte? Onana? We'll be more limited by debt and borrowing facilities than by squad cost.
Rashford is on the books for 2 more years. That's a big nut if he returns, but it's probably manageable. I'm more confident that there'll be a solution of some sort under this management team than under the previous one. If Barcelona will only go to a loan, how about a full 2 year one? Does that ever happen? Wages paid plus a loan fee?
9.) 29 Apr 2026 20:41:21
God almighty, Eric. We have to move on. If there's one thing everyone should agree on, it's that the squad is much better after Amorim than before. That's because the toxic players were shipped out. Why take one back in? Just baffling.
10.) 29 Apr 2026 21:11:27
Understand all that. If indeed Rashford was a bad apple, then good riddance. I have no knowledge of whether he was or not.
Just wondering what Emery, Tuchel and Flick all see in him that many on here don't.
11.) 30 Apr 2026 01:17:17
DonRed, do you know if he's a toxic person/player?
12.) 30 Apr 2026 07:22:00
Angel, of course I don't, but inference is a thing! Rashford most obviously wasn't putting in the effort for a long time. He didn't track back, and it was very clear he wasn't following the coaches' instructions. That's part of the toxicity I'm referring to. And, many at the club took that view, which is why he was loaned out.
13.) 30 Apr 2026 10:09:11
A club that has proven to have no shame in transfer negotiations and a club who has the naivety to label assets it wants to sell as a "bomb squad".
Not surprised it has come to this, lol.
If the club is not serious about bringing Rashford back, then they are, within reason, going to have to go along with what Barcelona want.
14.) 30 Apr 2026 10:40:48
I wouldn't have him as a toxic player or person whatsoever.
It was clear to see he had lost faith and interest in the club, and I think there are many mitigating factors. I mean, even after not playing again since that November, I believe he had 7 goals and was our top scorer for some time that season, even after leaving.
He's been very good for Barcelona, but they are doing what they do.
They don't have a lot of money, they have other targets, and they want to keep Rashford, but at the cheapest cost necessary. They know that the club and player want to fully part, and United need to release funds, so they do hold a lot of power in this position.
I'd like to see the club stand their ground here, but their hands may just be tied unless they say either they pay or you come back.
15.) 30 Apr 2026 10:46:17
Barcelona are a funny institution, they act broke with us, then spend millions elsewhere, they'll also sign players, then spend months getting others to lower their wages just to fit them in. Stump up or jog on. It's as simple as that. They wouldn't do us in favours if the show was on the other foot!
16.) 30 Apr 2026 14:03:46
Tim, if they jog on, are you okay with Rashford coming back? Because if he doesn't go to Barcelona, that's what's likely going to happen.
17.) 30 Apr 2026 15:03:47
I get u, Angel, but we can't just bow to their demands. We agreed a loan with a buy option, the fee is more than reasonable given his age and profile. We can't just give him away either, as that will set a precedent for future deals too.
18.) 30 Apr 2026 18:16:09
Okay, so for those not aware, Rashford turned up worse for wear for training a couple of times and was a negative influence and voice resisting leadership efforts, and deliberately doing dumb s*** like heading out to clubs and even abroad without permission for breaks.
He also had his personal life heading down the tubes, broke up with his partner, acted like a baller and almost got himself in a lot of trouble in Moss Side one day when his siblings got taxed for their cars and watches, and generally showed awful judgment and attitude.
I'm from Wythenshawe, same as him, and he burned a good few bridges also with people who were very much behind him.
I would never trust him again. But I would also use the headroom we have financially now to ensure we cannot be blackmailed by using him as an example of "don't bite the hand that's fed you or you will get bitten back". If he and Barca try the blackmail game, let him be the miserable one, training one for a year as an example of what happens if you don't learn to respect your employer that put you where you are now.
19.) 30 Apr 2026 20:12:46
You in the know, Captain Obvious, yeah? ?
20.) 30 Apr 2026 20:13:47
Tim, I know what you're saying, but it's not an obligation.
Tough place to be in. I agree, he needs to move on, for both parties, but Barca know what they're doing.
21.) 30 Apr 2026 21:42:25
I get u, angel... Just hope we can get the players out that we need to and for decent fees. Barca are a right ***** to deal with, maybe other teams might enter the mix. Fingers crossed.
22.) 01 May 2026 03:14:53
Yes angel, I am. I know you can be a little slow on the uptake sometimes, so I will say it sssslowllllllyyyy for you.
None of what I said is a secret, but in my case its all from personal knowledge.
You know what they say, better to keep.your mouth shut and people.think you're a fool than open it and prove it beyond any doubt.
23.) 01 May 2026 08:24:20
Nice1, Captain. ?
24.) 02 May 2026 13:07:40
Rashford has a preference to play elsewhere. That alone says he should not be near our squad, and I'm very confident he won't be. Call his bluff, and Barcelona's, and if he doesn't move, just leave him in a Sancho situation where he trains with the reserves. It's expensive, but 2 can play at a game of brinkmanship.
There will be other takers for him on loan at worst. Personally, I'd cut ties with Barca; tell Rashford they don't meet our valuations. Tell him to find another option, or he is all alone in a bomb squad.
If he thinks he can force the situation, then put him straight, and tell him we won't deal with Barcelona until they meet the valuation. Rashford will then need to find another option. I'd loan him or sell him to any other club in the world except Barcelona. If he won't go elsewhere, then just leave him in the reserves.
Rashford does not want to play for United, he had other preferences, so that alone should be enough for any of his supporters to drop support for him.
25.) 02 May 2026 13:21:36
Thanks for the insights Co, nice to get a local perspective confirming what some of us have heard from elsewhere.
The 'poor Marcus the victim' narrative has been pedalled by his PR crew and is a very false narrative from what I've heard.
If Barca don't fancy him for 26m, it tells you all you need to know.
I think any club would be very wary of giving him a contract.
26.) 03 May 2026 07:17:02
I don't even want him near the reserves. Gardening leave if necessary.
27.) 03 May 2026 15:29:53
I'm not sure they can do that, Fizz.
There is the option of canceling his contract mutually.
He has shown a huge amount of disrespect to his team-mates, coaches (several), and the fans by not putting in maximum effort and doing his own thing.
He has decent ability, no doubt, and will get his share of goals and assists at Barcelona as a good squad player.
That does not command 300k pw at Barcelona, so if he wants to play there he should accept that and reduce his demands and get paid for the role he is playing. He will play a squad role there, and that's probably 100k pw. At a push.
I get he doesn't want to give up his big contract and you might ask why should he? Well, if he wants to sign for them he can only demand what squad/rotation players are paid. He can't command superstar wages.
I've read he is prepared to take some sort of reduction, but perhaps he needs to go deeper to make a move happen.
I can see it dragging on all summer with him going back there or elsewhere on loan.
Our permanent coach may want him to stay and trust him to rebuild a few bridges.
If our permanent coach wants him to stay, then that's something sceptics like me will have to accept and hope he can regain fans' trust and respect.
I hope and I'm confident that he won't be here next season, but I'm not confident that we will get the ideal terms.
For me, it is a no brainer deal for Barcelona at 26m if they can get him down to 150k pw. They can really easily freeze him out if he is not doing great and flip him on in a year and get a profit without the buying clubs facing a 300k pw wage demand.
06 Mar 2026 15:20:40
Jesse Lingard has completed his move to Brazil, joining Corinthians.
1.) 07 Mar 2026 17:04:07
Hopefully the clown stays there.
2.) 07 Mar 2026 17:24:40
What makes him a clown, Spence? Contributed massively to a few of the trophies we have won in the last 10 years, too.
3.) 07 Mar 2026 21:30:51
Behave, mate. He threw away his football career, and you know it.
4.) 07 Mar 2026 21:58:16
Nope, he went through well-documented off-the-field family issues. He did well, came through the academy, played around 150 games for us, scored some massive goals, and was a key player in some of the rare trophies we've won since 2013. If that's throwing away your career, then so be it.
5.) 07 Mar 2026 22:45:58
Yep, Pspence, I think you've gotten that one badly wrong. Jesse had a few really good years here. And his decision in going to Seoul meant a huge pay drop. He embraced the culture there and is a fan favourite despite a rocky start there.
6.) 08 Mar 2026 12:08:27
Lingard gave us some good times. He's a character, but he's done well, and come through some tough times. He's one of our own, a Northwest lad who played for United.
He's playing in Brazil, apparently for a very low wage. He's experiencing the world, and fair play to him. Wish him the best.
7.) 08 Mar 2026 12:37:42
Lingard's a very promising young player.
8.) 08 Mar 2026 22:02:56
He was more interested in off field antics than football. Having issues doesn't excuse him; we all have issues, but that doesn't mean we stop turning up to work.
9.) 14 Mar 2026 18:56:38
Wasn't he a catalyst in dragging a few players down to his off-field issues?
10.) 16 Mar 2026 10:25:50
PSpence, he didn't stop turning up for work. I think he had a fine career. Sure, some of his antics are questionable and not for everyone. It's usually a generational thing.
Arguments can be made that he didn't fulfill the potential he had and he made some errors along the way, but being an academy graduate, trophies, England caps, travelling, and playing in different parts of the world.
When all is said and done, he should look back fondly.
11.) 17 Mar 2026 16:03:13
Every single player on here would love to have had the career Lingard did and experience what he has done.
He will have regrets, but who doesn't? Even Frank Sinatra had a few.
But he seems happy, so who are we to judge. He may have achieved most of his life goals, and not everybody can say that.
Not everybody is the same.
Maybe he got what he wanted or his career was more important to him than what you think he should have got out of it.
He never seemed to put football ahead of everything, but most people don't put their career before everything, only the really special, dedicated ones do, and they are few and far between.
11 Feb 2026 11:13:50
Thomas Frank sacked by Spurs. Roberto De Zerbi leaves Marseille by mutual consent. Coincidence?
1.) 11 Feb 2026 17:08:55
If your implying de zero goes to spurs I hope so he's a woeful coach.
2.) 12 Feb 2026 08:13:08
Dyche also gone. Forest owner is an embarrassment, hope they go down.
3.) 12 Feb 2026 09:38:33
Sacking Nuno was a disgrace at Forest. The irony is he’ll keep West Ham up most likely based on their recent form at the expense of Forest.
Forest are the new Watford.
4.) 12 Feb 2026 10:08:30
Would like to see Di Zerbi and Frank back in the premier league soon as their Brighton and Brentford sides were excellent performers for their respective budgets.
For the Dyche, the championship beckons if he wants to get back into work.
5.) 12 Feb 2026 20:56:03
Im not a fan of dyche.
I like de zerbi but he seems very emotional but I like the way his teams play.
Frank is a solid citizen. Seems like a good guy and i'd like toto see them both back at work soon. I hope they choose the right appointments.
05 Jan 2026 10:35:12
Manchester United sack Ruben Amorim in the wake of rising tension at Old Trafford; Amorim dismissed after meeting with Omar Berrada and Jason Wilcox; Darren Fletcher to take charge of United for Wednesday's game at Burnley; Amorim departs after 14 months in charge.
1.) 05 Jan 2026 11:23:27
The press conference yesterday sealed his fate. Otherwise he would have seen the season through.
2.) 05 Jan 2026 11:29:49
Rinse and repeat. And so the cycle continues.
3.) 05 Jan 2026 11:40:03
Who we thinking for his long term replacement then?
I believe Glasner is the favourite.
4.) 05 Jan 2026 12:00:26
Glasner? The guy who plays 343? That will go well here. It shouldn't be ever so long before some turn on him due to his 'formation'.
5.) 05 Jan 2026 12:11:25
Here’s hoping Wilcox follows him out the door.
6.) 05 Jan 2026 12:56:35
Ed001, you mentioned that the club were willing to get rid of Wilcox. Is this something they could still do?
I have not been impressed with what I’ve heard about him. That he sucked up to Ratcliffe and undermined Ashworth to steal his job. I feel like we need a proven DoF to come in and sort out the mess.
{Ed001's Note - I think it is very likely he will be replaced as well, in a couple of months or so when it will not seem related.}
7.) 05 Jan 2026 15:12:05
Thanks, Ed001.
30 Nov 2025 10:02:32
Man Utd team news
Man Utd: Lammens, Dalot, Yoro, De Ligt, Shaw, Amad, Casemiro, Bruno Fernandes, Mbeumo, Mount, Zirkzee.
Subs: Bayindir, Dorgu, Heaven, Malacia, Martinez, Mazraoui, Mainoo, Ugarte, Lacey.
1.) 30 Nov 2025 10:49:34
Not a team that looks like being able to beat a good palace team. But looking at the bench there wasn’t many other options.
2.) 30 Nov 2025 11:28:08
That team looks poor in 3421 but I’d say looks decent in a 433.
3.) 30 Nov 2025 11:42:55
So far absolutely awful. its terrible. Utd are so crap it unbelievable.
4.) 30 Nov 2025 13:15:50
Never in doubt ?? where didthat second half performance come from? Brilliant result after Mondays shambles.
5.) 30 Nov 2025 14:27:57
Feels much better after the win. Second half was much better but the issues with CM and the left side remain. Licha back could be huge and Mazraoui probably starts now before Yoro. A left side with Licha, Shaw and Cunha has enough quality I think. Others here I know don't believe Shaw can handle LWB but 60 minutes from him with Dorgu/ Dalot playing the remainder would be a significant improvement.
We're not particularly fluid but mostly the upward trend from last year is clear. Today was another game we'd have lost last year.
6.) 30 Nov 2025 21:43:26
We need to grind out results. This match last year, would have resulted in a loss for Utd.
I do believe that when Licha is fully fit and capable of playing 90 mins, that Shaw should play LWB. Dorgu and Dalot haven't impressed. I thought that Malacia might even be given a chance. It appears he is just making up the numbers.
7.) 01 Dec 2025 07:21:02
The work rate in the aecond half was excellent. We outfought Palace and that was tremendous to see.
8.) 02 Dec 2025 13:40:10
I think some of our season ticket holders should be vetted for suitability and have their tickets revoked. #getridoftheantifansgivetheirseattoatourist.
9.) 02 Dec 2025 14:18:23
Outfought a team that played less than 72 hours earlier and your bragging about that, I know we have to be grateful for small mercies but that’s pushing it… we won let’s just take that not start saying we were excellent.
10.) 03 Dec 2025 03:47:31
Difficult one Ken. Whilst in principal I agree, I was a season ticket holder for 30 years. For 12 years of that I was in the armed forces. Whilst based in UK I was there every week. But for 5 years I was based overseas. Some of that was in Europe so made efforts to get back every now and then. However some of it was in I was unable to travel so “sold” my tickets out of the folder at the Trafford Arms.
That gave me some return on my season ticket and meant that I could retain it throughout that period. I gave it up in 2005 after living in Oz as it was clear I would not be returning permanently. I am now happy that some do sell their tickets and know I can go to the Trafford Arms and get a ticket if required.
11.) 03 Dec 2025 06:25:47
Edit. However some of it was in a place that cannot be mentioned and I was unable to travel.
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10 Oct 2026 13:51:13
Zinedine Zidane on his conversation with Leny Yoro during France training:
"Somebody said, 'Zizou, Manchester United supporters think you're convincing him to join Real Madrid.'
I laughed.
Because I wasn't talking to Leny about Madrid. I was talking to him about becoming a better footballer.
There's something about him that reminds me of a young Raphael Varane.
I remember Rapha at Madrid. Sometimes he'd win the ball beautifully, then immediately look for the safest pass.
I'd tell him, 'Rapha, you've already beaten the striker. Why are you giving the ball to somebody who has to beat him again? '
'What do you want me to do, coach? '
'Look forward.'
Because a defender who stops an attack is important. But one who stops an attack and immediately starts another? That's a different footballer.
So I asked Leny, 'When you win the ball, what's the first thing you look for? '
'The safest option.'
'Good. And after that? '
He looked confused.
I told him, 'Sometimes the safest pass gives your opponent enough time to organise himself again. You have the legs to escape pressure, Leny. Now learn to make the ball escape without you.'
We worked on diagonal passes and recognising movement before it happens.
He asked, 'Coach, how do I know when to play that pass? '
I said, 'When you see it before the player asking for it sees it himself.'
Then against Belgium, he plays that beautiful diagonal towards Barcola.
Suddenly everybody's sending me messages.
'Zizou, 2 weeks with Leny and look what you've done!'
I said, 'What have I done? '
I haven't created Leny Yoro in two weeks. Manchester United already have a talented defender. I'm simply helping him understand a few things differently.
I remember when Varane was developing at Madrid. Sergio Ramos was beside him. Cristiano, Benzema, Modric, Kroos. Every training session was an education.
Sometimes Rapha made a mistake and Sergio looked at him as though he'd personally insulted the entire defence.
5 minutes later, Sergio gave him the ball again.
That's how young players grow. You correct them, but you also show them you trust them.
I told Leny, 'You're at Manchester United. Don't forget what that means.'
People look at recent results and forget the history.
But I remember Old Trafford. The atmosphere. The pressure. What Sir Alex Ferguson built there.
You don't need to explain Manchester United to somebody who has played against them.
I said, 'Leny, you're twenty. Don't spend your career trying to become the next Varane. Become the first Leny Yoro.'
'How do I do that? '
'Play. Make mistakes. Learn. Then make fewer mistakes.'
Because everybody wants the finished footballer. Nobody wants to watch the years it takes to make him.
?️ Reporter: 'But Zizou, surely you'd love to see Yoro at Real Madrid someday? '
'Of course Madrid appreciate great footballers. That's why they're Madrid.'
'So you'd encourage him to move? '
'Why? He's already at Manchester United. Do you think that's a small club? '
Before Leny left, I told him, 'When you return to Manchester, don't go back thinking you've learned everything because you spent two weeks with me. Go back and show them something new.'
France will benefit. United will benefit. And most importantly, Leny will benefit.
?️ Reporter: 'One last question. Would you ever manage Manchester United? '
'It's a beautiful club. Everybody knows that.'
'That's not an answer, Zizou.'
'It's the answer you're getting.'
But I'll tell you something.
If I ever walk into that dressing room as Manchester United manager, I'd like to see Leny sitting there.
I'd ask him, 'Remember that afternoon in France when we talked about your passing? '
And I hope he says, 'Yes, coach.'
Then I'll say, 'Good. Now show me what you've learned since.'
Because I wasn't teaching that boy how to get to Real Madrid.
I was teaching him something he could take back to Manchester United.
1.) 10 Oct 2026 19:35:59
Yoro is not good enough for EPL.
2.) 10 Oct 2026 22:30:55
If we are not careful he will be sold and years later we will realise what a mistake that was. He is potentially a really great defender. Just needs a proper coach he is so young.
3.) 10 Oct 2026 23:53:32
I mean that's clearly made up AI nonsense right.
4.) 11 Oct 2026 00:47:26
Seems to be AI.
25 Sep 2026 16:24:58
Citeh found guilty so appeals stage now.
1.) 25 Sep 2026 16:47:13
I think the FA have to go hard here. if Citeh get s red wrist or very weak punishment then que the rule breaking
Everton will also be watching hing closely.
2.) 25 Sep 2026 17:37:28
The FA should hand City over to Big Sir Jim and the Glazers as punishment.
3.) 25 Sep 2026 18:58:07
Their spending this summer and last jan suggests to me that they knew a long tranfer ban was incoming at the very least.
Will be intersting to see how quickly it moves from here. My understanding is that the appeal process will have a definitive timeline.
Points defuction severe enough to relegate then is unlikely imo but we'll have to wait and see.
4.) 25 Sep 2026 19:07:21
I disagree ken. 114 guilty verdicts is deserving of a severe punishment, I would expect relegation.
5.) 25 Sep 2026 19:25:55
Everton were docked 6 for minor breaches.
City have done fraud if it's only a big fine and transfer ban others will do exactly the same.
Should be enough points do be dropped down two leagues minimum.
5 year transfer ban
Kick out of all fa competitions and stripped.
Look at the likes of rangers, juve and that for cheating.
Prem have to be strong or look fools.
6.) 25 Sep 2026 19:39:07
Relegation is a tricky one because the EPL and Championship would effectively have to agree on it, and City would have the right to appeal that to CAS.
I'd expect a two year transfer ban, and a big enough points penalty to take them out of European qualification, but not enough to relegate them.
7.) 25 Sep 2026 20:07:40
EFL wouldn't need to approve. If you gave them a points deduction that would effectively relegate them. They would just take one of the 3 relegation spots and go down.
I would say if 114 charges doesn't get you relegation from let's say a points deduction, then what would you have to do to get that punishment.
8.) 25 Sep 2026 20:10:37
Do like the Paddy Power advert with the open top bus victory parade for the lawyers. Top stuff.
9.) 25 Sep 2026 20:42:59
They cannot appeal to CAS Shap, this is purely internal for the Premier League.
10.) 25 Sep 2026 20:52:49
Not including all Premier League clubs including past PL clubs effected will be suing for lost positions, missed champions league spots, relegation. City players having clauses. Huge ramifications.
11.) 25 Sep 2026 20:53:44
Huge can of worms here.
Compensation claims from the other clubs / individuals affected incoming.
12.) 25 Sep 2026 22:35:53
I don't know how or where they will do it but there needs to be a line drawn in the sand for further claims by other teams/players.
Other than the titles other teams have missed out on:
1. Clubs that have lost revenue due to not qualifying for CL.
2. Players that have lost a wage increase based on lost CL qualification.
3. Clubs that have been relegated by the odd points having lost to City,
4. If they get relegated then the teams pushed out of that league or the team refused promotion to that league.
5. Other teams that have been sanctioned if punishment is not aligned to offences.
Just a few off the cuff. It's essentially endless the number of potential routes for litigation. Going to be interesting.
13.) 25 Sep 2026 22:51:20
Jay Bothroyd still waiting on his "kickback" from City for services rendered in 2012.
Deam Kiely probably still checking his bank account too — because after that Aguero shot, you'd swear everyone involved had been promised a bonus. ?.
14.) 26 Sep 2026 02:52:31
80 point reduction, means 1 year of pointless play where they are sure they will go down. Then 1 year in championship, and soonest they can be back is year 3. Also out of Europe minimum of 2 years. That is a severe punishment.
Imagine the legal cases from clubs who lost out financially from this. This will go on for a long time.
15.) 26 Sep 2026 05:56:48
I know the charges only cover a certain period but surely the success after that wouldn't have happened (or very unlikely to) if it wasn't for the success in that period. Has anywhere said about that?
16.) 26 Sep 2026 09:24:46
80 point deduction and they would probably still end up finishing above us lol.
17.) 26 Sep 2026 09:38:26
Ole Solskaer, Premier League winner ?.
18.) 26 Sep 2026 09:42:50
The ripple effect this has caused is massive and I don't think it should be understated when it comes to sanctions. Clubs who have missed out on titles, top 4, European places, been relegated. Missed out on transfers. This is all within football. I don't know how it all works but surely they'll be law suits?
Then on top of that, what about betting companies who've paid out on City? The list of affected areas is huge.
19.) 26 Sep 2026 10:34:08
Law suits for breaking which laws ports.
Legality and breaking competition rules are very different things.
20.) 26 Sep 2026 10:42:11
The punishment definitely needs to be over a number of seasons otherwise it's pretty much pointless.
I'd imagine Villa and Newcastle owners are watching with interest as a weak punishment may lead them to think it's worth doing to break into the top echelons consistently. Whatever happens has to ensure that owners won't even think about doing this in future.
21.) 26 Sep 2026 10:45:41
That's a fair distinction, but it's not quite that simple.
I'm not saying that breaking a Premier League rule automatically means a criminal law has been broken. The point is that competition rules are still legally enforceable rules, and depending on the circumstances, a breach can potentially lead to civil claims as well as sporting sanctions.
If a club could actually demonstrate that City's alleged breaches gave them an improper advantage and directly caused that club a quantifiable financial loss, then the question of damages could potentially arise.
So yes, breaking competition rules and breaking criminal law are two different things. But "it's only a competition rule" doesn't necessarily mean there can be no legal action. The difficult bit would be proving the legal basis for the claim, causation and the actual financial loss.
22.) 26 Sep 2026 10:50:42
Relegation from the EPL and subsequent entry into the championship is only valid through "sporting measure". The Championship do not legally have to accept a team into their division that has been forcefully relegated as a punishment. Which makes it difficult for the EPL to relegate City as if they do not have a league to compete in then there are issues of forcing a club out of business.
It's unlikely that the Championship would refuse City entry, but it is something that would need to be negotiated before such a punishment was handed out. Would they want to accept a club that has the record City now has and with owners who weaponise their wealth. It's a risk, how can they be sure that City would adhere to the rules in the championship, and do they have the resources to challenge City legally if they didn't.
23.) 26 Sep 2026 11:14:03
I believe four clubs indicated they would take legal action (so far) and registered that earlier in the process, United were one.
As an example I believe United missed Champions League in 5th with City 4th on Goal Difference. Losing out on Champions League has significant financial loss implications and suspect that may form part of any claim and likely basis of similar claims.
I don't believe City, if the final conclusion is guilty, would be relegated immediately but suspect a very large points deduction would be considered to ensure relegation and that should be a starting point.
Pep leaving and the purchases made in summer may be an indication there was a suspicion this process was concluding.
24.) 26 Sep 2026 11:21:14
At least we don't have to worry about our owners using dishonest methods to inject money into the club. Then again, we did hire the man who was City's director of partnership sales at the time when the financial breaches (many of which related to funneling money through dodgy partnerships) occurred as our CEO.
Who knows. Berrada may be forced to step down, and his replacement might get rid of Wilcox and bring in somebody competent.
25.) 26 Sep 2026 11:31:42
Do Citeh have to be relegated and thus require the compliance of the championship? Can they not simply be expelled from the EPL and sort their own way back into the leagues from non league football?
26.) 26 Sep 2026 11:46:12
I backed us to win the league in 2012. Surely I can make a claim with William Hill. The list is endless.
27.) 26 Sep 2026 11:55:51
Citeh points deduction now. Expulsion by EPL member vote towards end of season.
Citeh to League 2. ?
PL: 3 promoted from Championship, only 2 relegated from PL
Championship: fewer relegated into League One
League One: fewer relegated into League Two
League Two: Citeh admitted as the additional incoming club.
28.) 26 Sep 2026 14:04:25
The problem with putting City into league 2 is that their stadium alone would mean that their running costs would exceed what they would legitimately make in that league, let alone player wages, settlements payments, contractual obligations, etc.
They wouldn't be able to legitimately compete within the financial restrictions. To be honest they would probably struggle to do so in the Championship, let alone any league below that.
While allowing them special dispensation to exceed the leagues financial rules then makes a mockery of the competitiveness of that league.
Then when you factor in the potential knock on effects to all those employed by City, and within the regeneration they have brought to the area around their stadium. Without the draw of a top EPL club and the revenue they draw into the area many of those businesses in the area would suffer.
While I might not be happy about it, wealthy individuals/groups/businesses line many pockets. All of those suffer when the guy at the top suffers.
29.) 26 Sep 2026 14:28:40
Honestly is the Citeh area that redeveloped or dependant.
The area is dead quiet, an Asda, Metrolink and Sports City.
The regeneration was started with sport city back in the early 2000s, Abu Dabbers did continue to invest and the city hardcore will go to the game still.
30.) 26 Sep 2026 19:38:40
We need a stadium. exp them to the non league tiers, change all the seats to red whilst we figure out what we're doing with OT.
31.) 26 Sep 2026 23:21:49
Your posts are cute JBR.
23 Sep 2026 19:33:05
Interesting take on Rashford by Peter Schmeichel:
Peter Schmeichel: "I watched Rashford at Barcelona and I said, 'Okay, maybe he's finding his feet. Maybe he just needs time.'
Then I watched him play a few games for Manchester United and I thought, 'I still need to understand his game.' I watched him against Manchester City last week and, honestly, I was embarrassed by what I saw. Then I watched him again tonight against Brighton and I finally understood why Hansi Flick never really wanted him at Barcelona. Look at Barcelona. They sign top players, top wingers, top finishers. Players who have a clear understanding of what they want to do when they receive the ball With Rashford, I still don't understand it. He gets the ball, drives forward, goes into the box and then misuses it. He comes back. He gets it again, does the same thing. Drives forward, crosses, loses the ball, comes back again. I want to call Marcus and say, 'Brother, what exactly is your style of play? ' Because this driving-and-crossing routine is clearly not working for Manchester United, and it's certainly not working for him. And the frustrating thing is that Manchester United already have players who were showing us something different. Šeško, Mbeumo, Amad, Cunha last season that attack was tearing teams apart.
Brighton were one of the teams on the receiving end of it. Then one player comes back into the picture and suddenly you see the same old problems. The combinations disappear. The movement becomes predictable. The attack becomes easier to defend. That cannot be normal And this is where I question Carrick.
You have Matheus Cunha sitting on the bench vs Brighton while Rashford is starting again. Why? If you watched the Manchester City game, if you watched Rashford v Brighton, what exactly did you see that convinced you he had to start? Carrick has worked hard to build a team with movement, intensity and different attacking options. You cannot keep changing that balance just because a player has a big name. At some point, you have to select players based on what they are giving you now. Marcus Rashford has ability. Nobody can deny that. But right now, he looks like a player searching for a version of himself that we haven't seen for a long time. And Manchester United cannot keep waiting for that version to return while the team suffers for it. For me, this is no longer about one bad performance. Rashford is simply not giving Manchester United what a top winger or a top finisher should give them. And Carrick has to be brave enough to accept that.".
1.) 23 Sep 2026 22:37:37
Rashford is doing better than he was in the run up to his departure. According to one report I saw he's created more chances from open play than any other player. I do believe he's trying, and with a top fullback he might do better, but right now his final product, both passing and shooting, has been woeful. Its seemed for a long while now hat he has little ability to take on a full back on his own and beat them through skill, and whereas he used to be faster than most defenders it no longer seems to be the case.
Other things one might take into account a)Tuchel saw fit to call him up for England duty so perhaps he does not agree with Schmeichel's assessment, b) until his goal one can hardly say that Cunha has been any more effective thus far this season c) we still have 3 competitions in which we have to compete and neither player can play all the games, and d) like many forwards/strikers their form runs in streaks. If he does all of a sudden score a goal or two maybe Rashford will go on one.
In short, it would have been better had we been able to sell him, but that didn't happen, so the club has n choice but to try and make the best of it. I have no doubt that if Cunha starts providing more for the team then he'll get more of the starts.
2.) 24 Sep 2026 01:15:58
Newname, he is a liability in most matches. He looks lively, but looks lively running always himself into trouble. He is not a team player, he doesn't play like he is part of a unit, who has a common goal. He always does the same thing running with the ball at defenders without purpose. Chance creation is the most overrated stat in football. You give the ball to your teammates and shoots, that's it.
This stat means nothing, other that you play close to the goal and your teammates shoots a lot when they receive your pass-we are first in shoot in the hole League. But as i said in another post our shoots have low probability. Radford and Bruno are the reasons for that, even if people don't want to hear a bad word for their hero Bruno.
3.) 24 Sep 2026 03:54:56
Play cunha left, mbuemu 9, Lacy right, Bruno 10. Sesko is pushing for the 9, but needs to show more. Bring him in at 60 mins.
Wingers need to work back hard and get forward quickly. Lacy, amad, cunha do this well. Rash and mbuemu do not.
4.) 24 Sep 2026 07:37:00
Heaven, apart from one single standout season, I've been saying that about Rashford for years. I agree with Schmeichel.
5.) 24 Sep 2026 10:15:56
Rashford should be currently on the bench and utilised as the game gets tired, similarly Dorgu. Ideally Sesko is fit and we can start with Cunha, Sesko and Mbeumo with Fernandes behind.
It is a team game and players off the bench are as important so Rashford needs to put a shift in for last 25/30 mins and could be a game changer if he can improve.
Hopefully we will get Amad back, wherever he is! And the club gives Lacey some minutes as he looks like he has something that makes defenders panic.
13 Sep 2026 15:14:01
On Sunday, there will be no flag display on The Stretford End. In its place, a single banner will hang above the players' tunnel with a clear message to the owners, directors and decision-making staff at Manchester United:
"THE WAY YOU TREAT US IS A DISGRACE"
1.) 13 Sep 2026 16:15:44
I agree with some of it but this lumps in a crackdown on some people touting their season tickets and getting theirs revoked. Quite frankly, I don't have any sympathy for them and wish all clubs clamped down on it.
2.) 13 Sep 2026 18:31:03
Never seen anyone on this site ever back the owners like you, DonRed.
3.) 13 Sep 2026 18:49:06
What the hell are you on about, Scholes? I detest them.
4.) 13 Sep 2026 18:53:36
Point out when I have ever backed the owners. I've pointed out when complaints about them weren't valid but they have saddled the club with debt and mismanaged a successful club into almost defaulting on debt.
They put Ed Woodward on us. That alone has my ire. But I won't say we haven't spent a lot on transfer fees and I won't support ticket touts just to have a dig.
5.) 13 Sep 2026 20:04:06
Don, I feel your pain. ?
6.) 14 Sep 2026 07:47:57
It will not matter if 25000 people don't go into the stadium. There will be another 25000 waiting to jump in the seats.
Even if people paid for tickets to tie up the seats, and then didn't go in, the club has made its money.
One of the problems, if you can call it that, is that there are plenty of fans willing to take up the seats.
United, whether we like it or not, don't care about atmosphere or who is sat in a seat, as long as it's sold. It's a business.
25 Aug 2026 18:13:31
No surprise but Baleba is signed and done.
1.) 25 Aug 2026 18:30:23
Thank God, that brings pace, power and physicality to the team, it's badly needed.
2.) 25 Aug 2026 19:22:37
Some pace is certainly welcomed. It would be hard to get a much slower midfield than we currently have.
3.) 25 Aug 2026 22:59:26
The midfield has a good blend.
Defence and back up forward next.
4.) 26 Aug 2026 09:04:22
Utd Road, where was it on Saturday then?
16 Sep 2026 08:43:13
Sky Sports: JJ Gabriel has requested the cancellation of his registration; Man Utd are understood to be shocked by the request but believe the situation can be resolved.
12 Sep 2026 07:52:29
Good post, Newname.
21 Aug 2026 08:26:45
Ken, it's tough being so ITK. ?
Peter, probably. ?
20 Aug 2026 09:00:56
Filming started over a week ago, as I mentioned in a post, jokingly suggesting that the club will now bring players in.
03 May 2026 07:17:02
I don't even want him near the reserves. Gardening leave if necessary.
14 Oct 2026 13:33:48
People seem to forget Roy Keane used to do exactly this, calling out teammates and questioning the club's ambition whenever we lost a big game.
Think about it from the players' side. They worked themselves into the ground last season to finish 3rd. They were told to expect backing this summer to actually push for the title. Instead, they're watching mates at other clubs compete for the league and the Champions League year after year while we're stuck treading water.
Players who gave everything for this club last season have every right to be asking serious questions of SJR and the Glazers. Martinez saying it out loud doesn't make him wrong; it just makes him one of the few actually willing to say it how it is.
12 Oct 2026 18:03:19
Sim, you is funny and I rarf out roud at you ?.
10 Oct 2026 14:06:06
How long have you been a qualified conditioning coach United Road?
09 Oct 2026 08:52:53
1-3 Spurs.
06 Oct 2026 10:27:56
Don't we all?