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28 Sep 2026 00:01:37
From a high placed individual, the guilty verdict in the Citeh case was leaked and that the intention had been to announce the punishment at the same time. It will come before any appeal can be initiated.
The likelihood of success is very slender. On the facts? After 2 years + of consideration of the evidence? Or fraud? Anyway, this person was pretty convinced the appeal would fail.
1.) 28 Sep 2026 21:38:16
But the appeal will take another 2 years. And if they lose that appeal they will take it to the high court and try there. City won't actually see any punishment for years, if ever.
2.) 29 Sep 2026 15:58:06
I disagree. I think the Premier League have got their answer now and can punish City how they deem fit. They don't have to wait for the appeal. City can't go to CAS either.
It's in the league's best interest to relegate City as soon as possible otherwise the integrity of the game is completely gone. And while City have made themselves a large part of the success of the league, the damage they have done to its brand is eye watering.
City will be relegated this season. Whether that's direct expulsion or given a points deduction that ensures relegation is up to the league.
They're finished as a club. Even if they unfathomably only got a slap on the wrist with a small points deduction and fine, they're still done. Every bit of silverware they've won post 2008 now has a little asterisk next to it denoting them as cheats. Every game they ever play, no matter what the opposition, or competition, rival fans will quite rightly remind them they're cheats. Nobody will want to play for a team like that. No brand or sponsor will want to be associated with that.
They're done. And it's well well overdue.
3.) 29 Sep 2026 18:05:32
Not over til the fat lady sings. City will try to drag this as long as poss or threaten to in an a probably successful attempt to reduce their punishment.
Actually making a judgement was prob the easy part finding a punishment that is workable, fits the crime and does the least damage to English football will be vv difficult.
4.) 30 Sep 2026 14:24:24
Some of the charges relate to refusal to cooperate and some of the findings are of perjury. You don't do that in the high court outside of a self policing commission structure. Off you go to jail and are personally liable for damages and losses as a conspirator.
The backbone of the stoic leadership will gelatinise the moment the current commission appeal is concluded.
Citeh will definitely try and a drag it out, no doubt, but, the appeal process is only relevant on points of law. You cannot retry the case or the evidence. If citeh withheld evidence deliberately from the original commission to see what the impact would be before they produced anything then that counts against them for failing 5o cooperate even if they then got off scot free on the allegations.
Let's be honest, anyone who thought citeh were getting genuine income form their sponsors is a blatant idiot. It was happening for everyone to see in front of our noses. Any matchbox math would show they were being blatantly overpaid for sponsorships became everyone else's deals are also public. You cannot 'pump prime' any business, even a private owned one where it operates in a regulated industry.
31 May 2026 18:25:31
Clickbait merchants on YouTube suggesting that Tonali is close to being signed.
We're planning on exercising Sancho's one year extension, so we can sell him for a small fee. Don't see this as likely, at least not at his current pay rate. Would anyone buy him for £20m?
Barcelona will offer £11m only for Rashford.
1.) 31 May 2026 19:10:24
If we activate that on Sancho's contract, then we really are stupid and haven't learned a thing. We'd be stuck paying his wages for another year, which would be ludicrous, so I'm hoping it's bs.
2.) 31 May 2026 20:54:22
Any 'profit' from activating Sancho's extension and selling him would almost all go to Sancho as you cannot 'profiteer' from one year extensions.
3.) 01 Jun 2026 10:24:01
It's simply not true.
4.) 01 Jun 2026 15:57:48
If I recall rightly, our dear Ed 002 once said that the one yr contract extensions cannot be triggered with the plan of selling the player within that year.
5.) 01 Jun 2026 16:42:26
We would make a loss if we triggered the one year contract extension on the Sancho deal, so why would we do it?
Unless Carrick is getting the band back together, which feels very unlikely, Sancho will be departing the club finally. Very poor piece of business, and a player that has always flattened to deceive everywhere except at Dortmund.
06 Jan 2026 19:06:44
But Telegraph Sport revealed on Monday morning that United’s hierarchy took the decision to dismiss Amorim before Sunday’s draw with Leeds United after the manager “lost it” with Wilcox on Friday morning.
Wilcox had intended the meeting to be a chance to discuss the evolution of the team but when the subject of Amorim’s 3-4-2-1 system – to which he has been wedded – was raised the Portuguese “blew up”, according to sources.
Sources said Amorim’s behaviour had grown increasingly erratic in recent weeks and felt his public outbursts, in which he suggested he was being undermined and hinted at a power struggle with Wilcox and the board, were designed to engineer an exit.
1.) 07 Jan 2026 12:46:19
I hope I am wrong but I think after Amorim had players wanting to play for the club and the team behind him, this is meddling from the board in exactly what Amorim Was employed to do, which is coach the team. That includes setting the formation and style of play. It was coming and we were progressing.
The fallout is clearly over the board changing goalposts from Europe to being Champions League, trying to change the 3 year narrative without the extra investment. It's a rubbish show and this is a disastrous decision and we are back to square 1 yet again.
Look how many players have come out in support of Amorim and clarifying they saw him as their boss and leader. An absolutely terrible ego driven decision based on someone reacting emotionally to being doubted within and abused by Wlcox who openly admits to interfering and believing he's a bteer coach.
This is dreadfully short sighted and utterly incompetent.
2.) 07 Jan 2026 17:19:15
The DOF is perfectly entitled to question what's happening on the pitch without the coach throwing all his toys out of the pram. Rather than act as many of our players have done by going public the correct approach would have been either to arrange for discussions with the rest of the management team, and/or if there were indeed genuine tensions between Wilcox and his colleagues, to let that play out.
In tense situations tensions are quite normal as are disagreements. Mature individuals try to negotiate through them. After all, getting into the Champions League ought to have been the priority not just for the club but also Amorim since doing so would provide more funds for the rebuild. If that required a short term modification of approach a reasonable individual should at least consider being less rigid.
3.) 09 Jan 2026 14:08:03
In truth wilcock must resign. he's a rat like Radcliffe and his pathetic ego has dumped utd into chaos.
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21 Oct 2026 22:28:27
I was out for dinner so didn't watch. Unfortunately I've infected both my son and daughter, and they have infected their kids, with bad cases of MUSS (Man United Supporter Sickness) so I got WhatsApp updates from their homes in Switzerland and the US.
I will always follow United but watching them is too painful. There's nothing about the club at the moment that merits me wasting my time and emotional energy on them. The whole club - owners, management and players - is rotten. The Glazers have gutted us. Ineos hasn't helped, but then they don't have much leeway given the debt. Both of them are malign. It affects everything beneath them. It's like being sucked dry by a succubus; it's a relationship you need to get out of.
1.) 22 Oct 2026 09:29:41
For me, that's not how supporting a club works. Through good and bad, support your team. I get that it's hard at the moment and the owners are scum bags, but some of our fans do come across as entitled at times, I must admit.
Not particularly a dig at you, I get how you feel, just not how I view supporting the club, we are all different.
{Ed025's Note - but there is support and blind faith GDS, its not working out for whatever reason mate..
2.) 22 Oct 2026 10:33:22
Oh I agree, but that's what it's all about, 'it's the hope that kills you'.
18 Oct 2026 17:51:10
I didn't watch, and was out anyway.
Were there any signs of improvement? How did the midfield 3 with Baleba, Santos and Tielemans fare?
Should Lacey get Amad's place?
1.) 18 Oct 2026 18:25:39
I am in the minority but yes there was good signs. Without Bruno we were better and certainly more compact at the center. Both Santos and especially Baleba had a good game. Maybe Tielemans had his best with us with the double pivot providing steal behind him.
I don't think they will, but that must be a performance to build on. Stay compact, win some games ugly (we could win ugly today), bring the confidence up and then start from there. In both the atleti and Leeds game we were more solid and better overall.
2.) 18 Oct 2026 18:44:53
We had Bruno, Mount, Tielemans, Cunha, Amad and Mbeumo on the field and none of them played in their best positions.
3.) 18 Oct 2026 18:50:48
Thought the middle was much better. had legs and looked half decent. Its something because I feared a hammering pre game, so to see constructive passes movement and energy pleased me. Also we didn't buckle when leeds scored, another plus. feared a total collapse. It's not much but its better. simply need a few wins thou.
4.) 18 Oct 2026 19:25:42
Wow, anyone who thinks that was good what are you judging us on the quality of the game was atrocious, virtually every player was out of position but all worked harder, but that don't make it any good, Draw was about fair .
And if we now saying Santos and Teilemans were good in that game. Well I'm speechless.
5.) 18 Oct 2026 19:42:21
I think there has been signs of improvement in the last 2 games, we should have won in Madrid. Yoro was brilliant again, as he was in Madrid until the ridiculous red card.
Draw was probably about right on the balance of the game, we deserved to go ahead when we did but 2nd half Leeds pushed hard before their goal. A point at Leeds isn't a bad result in the grand scheme of things, they have had a good start to the season and pushed Arsenal hard last week, but we really need to start winning games as soon as possible.
15 Oct 2026 22:52:47
Again, to remind you, Carrick is not the Manager, he's the Head Coach. He had no say in whether Rashford returned or not. It was a fait accompli because the club couldn't sell him. So, what would you expect him to do when the club forces Rashford, or indeed any player on him?. Throw a hissy fit? Send him to the reserves? Or try to make the best of it? And, if the last of these 3 options - which is the only realistic one for someone making £300k+ per week - then why start out by telling the player, or indeed the press, that he's unwelcome.
The blame goes to the club, and if players are downing tools because of Rashford then they're a load of unprofessional t****, who don't deserve to wear the shirt.
1.) 16 Oct 2026 01:20:55
I think option is you force him out by telling him you won't be playing and will be with the youth team. Will his ego have taken it, probably a no. Or maybe just have taken the 10 million Barca wanted to negotiate to. I would have sold him for free just to get him
Out and wages off the books.
Remember we only want players who want to play for United, we keep getting reminded of this whenever we are interested in a player.
Rashord made clear he does not want to play for us anymore.
100% blame goes to the Wilcox and co, I don't think as a player I would want rashford in the squad and I'm sure after publicly saying I want to leave the club he's back in with the number 9 shirt and starting games straight away. I can understand if squad harmony was affected.
2.) 16 Oct 2026 03:08:22
If he isn't good enough and/ or interested enough he doesn't play. End of!
I don't care if he is on a million a week.
3.) 16 Oct 2026 07:59:48
That's fine Keefy, I agree.. but you can't start out assuming that before the season has started.
My point is that people are blaming Carrick for welcoming Rashford back. He had no choice. The club left him with that as the only viable option.
4.) 16 Oct 2026 10:16:33
Carrick most certainly did have
He also had the choice to put Rashford on the bench and not put him on.
Or do what Amorim did
Instead he put other players noses out who got us to 3rd. He put Cunha on the bench to play Rashford in Europe.
Frankly Carrick is a weak coach and this just proves it.
5.) 16 Oct 2026 11:41:39
agree red man, a player who has his number taken walks straight back into the team without having to earn his spot.
alot of questions were asked why barca haven't bought him, some were saying they were stupid to send him back to us. how wrong they were
players playing 90 minutes every week while not performing
only a matter of time before carrick is gone anyway, maybe after the beating we get sunday will make it sooner. and the Sunday league backroom staff along with him but whoever signed off on making him the perm manager after saying they were not going to needs to be sacked also.
whys it only the managers getting sacked.
6.) 16 Oct 2026 13:04:55
B0lg
I watched the Madrid forward leave Rashford jogging, it was everything he did before. Then Rashford jumped out of the way in the 2 man wall, an absolute basic do not do and they hit the bar.
I cannot fathom how people see Rashford in the team and if Carrick had any cohones, which he doesn't clearly, in summer he would have said I am not prepared to integrate him back in so you better sell him now. The fact Carrick is pushing other players out of position and even benching them for this Fraud and utter disgrace to the shirt is a symbol of how poor and weak Carrick is and of the issues at the club. I called for Wilcox to go and if he thinks Rashford could easily be reintegrated then he is every bit as bad as everyone thinks.
{Ed025's Note - im with you Red Man..
7.) 16 Oct 2026 13:35:03
100% agree, it was Carrick's decision to start Rashford.
If i was Cuhna, Mbeumo, and Sesko i would be properly pi**ed off with Carick. Between the three of them they hit over 30 goals last season, then Rashford walks back into the the club he wanted to leave and immediatley gets a starting place, it's a f**ing joke!
I would bench him end of!
8.) 16 Oct 2026 15:52:58
Start him on bench. Or at a push, start him at 9 until sesko is fit. The club kept him in lieu of another striker, so play him there.
But to start the season, he should have started bench and then come on to prove himself. Beginning the season with a starting spot, push out cuhna from the left, was crazy and sent the wrong message to the squad.
Carrick is weak and clearly will not be the manager for long.
But change to DOF first and let them fix the mess.
9.) 16 Oct 2026 17:53:10
But how do you know if that in training he was looking fantastic and warranted a starting place, was miles ahead of the rest and Carrick see that, hence put him in . We won't never ever know. of course the haters can summise.
10.) 17 Oct 2026 00:26:15
I think the past tells us he doesn't train well.
11.) 17 Oct 2026 10:34:08
JSU
He clearly wasn't training well at Barca or Villa. Barca rather spent an extra 50m they didn't have on Gordon. Villa preferred Garnacho. Enough said.
12.) 17 Oct 2026 10:41:34
I would have been fine with leaving him on the bench at the beginning of the season but maybe he was simply showing more in training than Cunha, who had a tougher summer. Fact is Rashford worked hard at the beginning of the season and played reasonably well up to the final pass or shot. Cunha has been bang average.
13.) 18 Oct 2026 11:21:25
That ignores the main issue. I couldn't care if he was training well, this is the guy who said along the lines of if he was a magician he would stay at Barca.
Rashford shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.
Now he is trying so hard by playing through an injury, look at me I really care. Carrick would rather play an injured Rashford than Cunha. Ridiculous
As to Cunha, imagine coming into work after having put a massive effort in last season, to find the manager giving favour to the guy who spent last season showing a leg to Barca desperate to leave.
Suspect when Carrick is gone Cunha will not feel as kicked in the nuts.
15 Oct 2026 19:56:50
So, how about if every supporter of every EPL club sued Shamchester Citeh for pain and suffering caused as a direct result of their cheating.
1.) 16 Oct 2026 07:49:06
Can we sue Glineos for the pain and suffering they've caused us?
2.) 16 Oct 2026 19:44:23
We could sue glinoes but they would pass the debt onto the club. We will be in year 2037 with debt of well over 4 billion, in a relegation battle and these see you next Tuesdays will still be in charge of the club.
I'm telling you as fans we need to raise the funds to get this club fan owned. I have heard mr Beckham and his mates are going to try make a move In the next few years ?.
15 Oct 2026 12:54:46
Just a reminder: Carrick is not the manager, he's the head coach who works under the DOF Jason Wilcox. As the coach he's responsible for training, selection, tactics and what happens on the field, but he's not responsible for the acquisition or sale of players.
Now maybe Carrick should be getting more out of these players. There's really no excuse for being outrun, outfought, being second to every ball, or having no apparent tactical plan either to break down defenses, or organize to defend. But if the coach isn't given the sort of players needed to achieve those objectives then that falls directly on the DOF and those higher up the food chain.
I think it's absolutely clear that the manager hasn't been given the tools to compete at the highest levels in the short term. What we don't know is whether Wilcox wanted the club to buy certain players but was met with resistance because the club simply doesn't have the money. If that's the case then the responsibility falls on those above Wilcox. If that's the case, and I suspect it is, then firing Carrick and/or Wilcox won't make a scrap of difference beyond a possible short term bump.
Ever since the Glazers took over the club's cash flows have been used to finance their debts and the incompetence of their chosen management team. Woodward was a footballing disaster. Now cash flows are being used not only for debt financing but to prepare the ground for a new stadium, leaving the club, after 7 straight years of losses, in a position where it does not have the financial wherewithal to compete for the best players. That £60m+ for land could have been used to buy a good full back, but no, it was used too fuel a pipe dream that most United supporters hardly care about.. at least not if it compromises the team's ability to compete.
Many of us have been saying it for years. The malaise starts at the top, with the owners, and the debt that's strangling the club's performances on the field. I, for one, don't care about whether we have a stadium that can house a Taylor Swift concert or some other mega event. I only care about the football and the fan experience, which is for most of us a short term week to week thing. Manchester United, based on its revenues, should have a team able to compete on all fronts for titles now, in the present moment. That is doesn't, and that it hasn't now since SAF retired - and the signs were there before that - is entirely the responsibility of the owners.
Without quality football the new stadium is a fool's errand, a vanity project for a distant future. The first priority has to be the football itself. Everything else stems from that. It's what the club and its revenues were built on - and It's what has been destroyed by the Glazers. Ratcliffe has no capacity to fix it because his businesses are also carrying too much debt to effectively resolve United's debt laden structure. he's tried to bring in competent people but ultimately there's a clear correlation between what you pay and what you get.
We all know Martinez was right to criticize those above. He chose Wilcox, but I believe the main problem remains what it's been since 2005.
1.) 15 Oct 2026 15:31:48
What makes you think the manager is capable of operating at the highest level?
Team aside, all I have seen from Carrick is lack of in game management
No Plan B
Strange substitutions
The two games opposing team when down to to 10 men prime example what did Carrick do nothing .
I don't see anyway in the world that Carrick warrants the job or the coaches yes he been given poor players, but he should still be doing something with what he got, after all many kept saying Tielemans is fantastic signing and Chelsea fans were up in arms about losing Santos and Cunha and Lammens are great signings. if any of that were true and Carrick should be doing much better.
2.) 15 Oct 2026 15:43:10
Carrick has been clueless along with his coaching staff and has not prepared the team to compete for this season since it started. The evidence is clear to see with our performances even if we ignore the results.
Wilcox has to go if Carrick is sacked period.
It's a blessing in disguise that our scum owners didn't back Wilcox/Carrick and held back on spending on more players.
Our whole backroom including ex players should be sacked on the spot for this disaster we are enduring.
3.) 15 Oct 2026 19:05:43
If you read my second paragraph I think it's clear I'm not exonerating Carrick. He's not the manager anyway. He's the head coach and, for whatever reason, he's failing to get the squad ready for action.
No one at United comes out well right now.
4.) 15 Oct 2026 20:45:36
So are we saying we don't have a squad capable of more than 6 points from 6 games, 2 of which were against promoted teams?
5.) 16 Oct 2026 04:30:36
Clearly that's what this squad are capable of 6 points in 6 games, of that there is no debate because it's a fact.
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22 Oct 2026 09:15:59
What's so amazing is that all this has happened after such a good run in to the end of last season. What happened over the summer to destroy the apparent +ve feelings between the players and manager
1. A disastrous transfer window with major holes remaining unplugged. No back up striker, no full backs, failure to get rid of Rashford.
2. Very poor preparation for the new season. The defeat to Milan in pre season was a warning of things to come.
3. Failure, once again, by the club to bite the bullet during the summer and get an established EPL manager. Of course, what we don't know is whether any other managers were sounded out. Was the club insisting on a head coach role? Did anyone of any talent want the poison chalice? Why would you choose Man United over Liverpool for example? Why would you want to work for Ratcliffe and the Glazers with their extremely limited available funds with so many holes to fill and so many average players.
21 Oct 2026 08:45:53
Bruno's costing us £15m+ a year. Any top midfield replacement will cost us more than double that in wages and amortization. It's the same sort of situation with Rashford. Barcola is costing Liverpool about £35m a year.
Pay up or don't pay down. Given our existing debt, interest payments and capital expenditure plans, I know which one I'm betting on.
20 Oct 2026 17:33:52
Spurs managed to sign expensive players without European football, so it's not impossible.
13 Oct 2026 13:47:03
No player will succeed long term in a failed structure. Average players will exceed their expected performance in the right structure.
Man Utd's overall structure is rotten. Last year we spent >£100m or not far off the equivalent of the annual salary + amortization for 3 Elliot Andersons.
It affects everything. Can anyone really see anything changing for the better?
20 Sep 2026 17:56:13
No end product. Final pass and shooting all pathetic. Otherwise decent. But that's simply not enough.
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19 Oct 2026 19:25:00
Can't vote on this one. I would have preferred neither. Amorim's record was terrible and he was just as unadaptable as Carrick. Both were/are not managers but head coaches, and I think the rub lies in that.. unless one has a great DOF and a club with the funds to acquire top players the club is unlikely to be challenging for major titles.
18 Oct 2026 09:04:28
How about if they produce a trashy product on the pitch with no hope of redemption because they continue to not have the funds to compete financially, with the result that the demand for seats drops? Or, in order for it to work they have to price the seats too high? Or, indeed, if the EPL product becomes less valuable for one reason or another? Manchester has been tainted by the City scandal. Who knows the knock on effect. We all know that between now and actually building the damn thing the cost will go up considerably. It always does.
I'll be in an urn by the time it happens.
17 Oct 2026 10:59:14
One more thing related to the manager v head coach situation. Maybe the club wants to persevere with a head coach and that's a non-starter for many top managers. If we're going to go back to a dominant manager model then the club will then have to think about both Carrick and Wilcox going. What's really difficult to know is to what extent Wilcox's ambitions and wants were themselves constrained by the owners and the club's limited funds. He may be as frustrated as the rest of us.
All we can say is that what looked like the fairly straightforward task of replacing Casemiro, finding a secondary midfielder and then stiffening the defense and a back up CF, has been botched badly, although maybe Baleba will improve things.
17 Oct 2026 10:41:34
I would have been fine with leaving him on the bench at the beginning of the season but maybe he was simply showing more in training than Cunha, who had a tougher summer. Fact is Rashford worked hard at the beginning of the season and played reasonably well up to the final pass or shot. Cunha has been bang average.
17 Oct 2026 09:30:52
Manchester United under its current executives have done away with a "manager" and appointed a head coach instead. They've tried to move away from a system that's failed ever since SAF and Gill left at the same time, the club's first disastrous mistake.
The facts speak for themselves. We've had Moyes, LVG, Mourinho, Ole, Rangnick, ETH, Amorim and Carrick plus 3 other interims in 13 years. None of them have worked. Why? Because the club is rotten at its core. So, while you are of course right - the manager matters - it can also be true to say given the way our club is run, with its fiscal constraints, and vital cash flows being used for interest and land acquisitions, it's highly likely even the ideal manager will fail to give us what we think we should have, a title wining team.
I think there's a reason we didn't get Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti etc. The owners of this club are seen by the footballing world for what they are, people using the club primarily for money making by means of financial manipulation, rather than to win titles. If there was no relegation and no European riches this crowd wouldn't care if we were permanent bottom feeders if it was in their financial interests.
Best, Law and Charlton? Each of them would be £100m+ players today and we couldn't afford them and they wouldn't want to come to us. So, fire Carrick, pay the compensation (another £100m spent in the last dozen years) and try to find someone who will paper over the cracks. They may get us playing better. They may even get us challenging for a European place, but odds are they will not be able to get us where we think we ought to be. The club's owners are a cancer. Don't expect a sick man to run as hard or as long as his healthy opponents.