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31 May 2026 18:25:31
Clickbait merchants on YouTube suggesting that Tonali is close to being signed.
We're planning on exercising Sancho's one year extension, so we can sell him for a small fee. Don't see this as likely, at least not at his current pay rate. Would anyone buy him for £20m?
Barcelona will offer £11m only for Rashford.
1.) 31 May 2026 19:10:24
If we activate that on Sancho's contract, then we really are stupid and haven't learned a thing. We'd be stuck paying his wages for another year, which would be ludicrous, so I'm hoping it's bs.
2.) 31 May 2026 20:54:22
Any 'profit' from activating Sancho's extension and selling him would almost all go to Sancho as you cannot 'profiteer' from one year extensions.
3.) 01 Jun 2026 10:24:01
It's simply not true.
4.) 01 Jun 2026 15:57:48
If I recall rightly, our dear Ed 002 once said that the one yr contract extensions cannot be triggered with the plan of selling the player within that year.
5.) 01 Jun 2026 16:42:26
We would make a loss if we triggered the one year contract extension on the Sancho deal, so why would we do it?
Unless Carrick is getting the band back together, which feels very unlikely, Sancho will be departing the club finally. Very poor piece of business, and a player that has always flattened to deceive everywhere except at Dortmund.
06 Jan 2026 19:06:44
But Telegraph Sport revealed on Monday morning that United’s hierarchy took the decision to dismiss Amorim before Sunday’s draw with Leeds United after the manager “lost it” with Wilcox on Friday morning.
Wilcox had intended the meeting to be a chance to discuss the evolution of the team but when the subject of Amorim’s 3-4-2-1 system – to which he has been wedded – was raised the Portuguese “blew up”, according to sources.
Sources said Amorim’s behaviour had grown increasingly erratic in recent weeks and felt his public outbursts, in which he suggested he was being undermined and hinted at a power struggle with Wilcox and the board, were designed to engineer an exit.
1.) 07 Jan 2026 12:46:19
I hope I am wrong but I think after Amorim had players wanting to play for the club and the team behind him, this is meddling from the board in exactly what Amorim Was employed to do, which is coach the team. That includes setting the formation and style of play. It was coming and we were progressing.
The fallout is clearly over the board changing goalposts from Europe to being Champions League, trying to change the 3 year narrative without the extra investment. It's a rubbish show and this is a disastrous decision and we are back to square 1 yet again.
Look how many players have come out in support of Amorim and clarifying they saw him as their boss and leader. An absolutely terrible ego driven decision based on someone reacting emotionally to being doubted within and abused by Wlcox who openly admits to interfering and believing he's a bteer coach.
This is dreadfully short sighted and utterly incompetent.
2.) 07 Jan 2026 17:19:15
The DOF is perfectly entitled to question what's happening on the pitch without the coach throwing all his toys out of the pram. Rather than act as many of our players have done by going public the correct approach would have been either to arrange for discussions with the rest of the management team, and/or if there were indeed genuine tensions between Wilcox and his colleagues, to let that play out.
In tense situations tensions are quite normal as are disagreements. Mature individuals try to negotiate through them. After all, getting into the Champions League ought to have been the priority not just for the club but also Amorim since doing so would provide more funds for the rebuild. If that required a short term modification of approach a reasonable individual should at least consider being less rigid.
3.) 09 Jan 2026 14:08:03
In truth wilcock must resign. he's a rat like Radcliffe and his pathetic ego has dumped utd into chaos.
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23 Jul 2026 12:31:22.
First of all, I have absolutely no idea how our two new midfield signings will fare and/or will be enough, or whether history will show we were actually buying smart rather than big. Our rivals have new more experienced managers and are splashing the cash, which does tend to stoke a fear that we will be ill-equipped for the new season. I can see why fans are generally dissatisfied. It seems like the club's actions lack the ambition to really contend for the EPL title next year, let alone survive and prosper in the much more intense season coming. Is the club prepared to put its money where its mouth is?
Signing young players may pan out in the future, but then it may not. We've all seen the flash in the pans like Macheda and Januzaj. Teams are not judged on what they may or may not do in the future, but what they achieve in the current campaign.
What surprises me is just how penny-pinching the club is being. We could have revenues approaching £800m, so we have plenty of room from a squad cost point of view. I was really expecting us to spend £250-£300m this summer. There's still 5 weeks+ to go in the window so all is not yet lost. And, in the end, as Spain showed this World Cup, none of the stars with the biggest names, other then Yamal who actually had a relatively quiet tournament, ended up on the winner's podium. It's a team game. If the club doesn't make any more significant purchases (because there still isn't any value in the market?), then Carrick will need to reveal his inner SAF, creating a team that is far greater than the sum of its parts.
1.) 23 Jul 2026 14:10:32
As SAF said, there is no value in the transfer market. I think this quote suits now, more than ever. You say splash the cash, I see none available that can come here and elavate our team, or maybe there are only very few available. I really cant see the reason to spend huge money for someone, says Fernandez, that maybe will improve you very little. Maybe the club sees it this way. Otherwise, history and researches suggest that big money moves, more often than not, fail for different reasons. So instead for overpaying for decent players, we buy decent players with half the money, no pressure on players (one of the reasons of failing), not big book value so we can sell if doesnt work out and to summarise, a team that are united without big names but good hardworking players who wants to be here.
We have a proper structure again. Its not ideal, we are not favourites for the league and maybe not even close, yet, but finally we see improvement and we are miles better than we were before Ineos who cleared a lot of the mess and keep clearing.
2.) 23 Jul 2026 16:21:09
I said other teams were splashing the cash and that I had no idea whether what we're doing will be successful. In the end, it's a team game, and high cost players don't necessarily get you where you want to go. Isak and Wirtz last year were a great example of that.
I also said that we should have the money should the right player be available, but I am concerned that the notion that there's no value in the marketplace is taking hold again, and, in the long run, we will be doomed to challenging for European places rather than actual titles.
3.) 23 Jul 2026 16:37:52
I think we have been caught out in a summer where prices are probably 30 million dearer than they should be, New Name, and unfortunately we aren't gonna go to them prices.
I'd imagine our board saw Anderson as an 80 to 85 million player.
Fernandes as maybe 55 to 60.
4.) 23 Jul 2026 17:28:06
Are fans panicking or feeling underwhelmed? That's not the impression I get from the United fans I speak to. Sure there is always a little hyperbole online, as there always is. But on the whole I get the impression that most match going fans are fairly happy and content with how the club is being run currently.
Personally in terms of our signings under INEOS, I don't think I can fault them.
We've missed out on a couple of targets such as Delap, Semenyo, and Emi Martinez last season, but signed Sesko, Mbeumo and Lemmans instead, personally I think we signed the better options in the end.
We've missed out on Anderson and Mateus Fernandes this summer, but have managed to get deals for Andrey Santos and Youri Tielemans instead. I'm happy with the two we have signed.
Comparing our signings pre and post INEOS is like comparing chalk and cheese. We no longer panic, we no longer over pay. Our targets are signed to fit into a plan and are well scouted, rather than short term, poorly chosen flip flopping of targets.
The only two signings I think you can categorically say haven't worked out under INEOS are Ugarte and Zirkzee.
You could see the logic behind signing them, and when all is said and done I expect we'll come close to breaking even on those deals, so no big loss.
Lets go through the other signings:
Mazraoui, been solid and I don't believe there was a better value for money option that we could have bought.
MdL, I'd probably give a 6 out of 10, mostly due to the games he's not been available for. When he's played he's been great.
Leny Yoro, still looks promising, he was very good in his first season, but had a slight dip in his second season.
Dorgu looks very promising, and for the fee looks like a great deal.
Lammens, was genuinely probably the EPL signing of the season last year.
Cunha has been a joy to watch.
Mbeumo has been a really good signing.
Sesko has shown great quality and looks like he will go on to be a EPL great.
We've then signed a flurry of youth players, Ayden Heaven, Chido Obi, Sekou Kone, Kana-Biyik, and Diego Leon. These are guys signed with the intention that they can supplement the first team, but are maybe a year or two away from really being able to make an impact. They've been signed for practically nothing in today's market, 3-5m for the 5 of them. If even one of them makes it (and Heaven looks like he will) then it's money well spent, we will almost certainly make money by selling the ones who don't make it with us.
There is a clear logic to our signings under INEOS, a clear plan, and a professional approach.
This summer already we have brought in Andrey Santos and Youri Tielemans to improve our midfield (and managed to get both of them for less than Mateus Fernandes would have cost on his own). We have signed a solid back up keeper on a free to enable us to move Bayindir. We have also signed a young lad from Spurs (Tynan Thompson) for a low fee (4m plus 4m in add ons) who can hopefully have a similar impact as Ayden Heaven has.
It's also clear that the club won't stop at those four signings, with us heavily linked to another midfielder, a striker, a LB, a LW and possibly a CB. I doubt we'll get all of those 5 signings, and in truth with Thompson signed I expect we can cross a LW off the list this summer. I expect we'll get another midfielder, a defender and possibly a back up striker. They might not the biggest names, and the signings probably won't be over the top, and ridiculously expensive, but they will probably all be good value and improve the squad, making us stronger.
5.) 23 Jul 2026 17:36:43
When Sir Alex Ferguson said there's no value in the market, what he really meant was the Glazers weren't going to give him money to spend, and he was covering for them.
6.) 23 Jul 2026 18:38:15
I don't blame you, Newname. I must make this clear because English is not my first language. When I say "you say splash the cash" I don't mean you, but the majority of fans who always want the team to spend big. I know your post is balanced, and you are not overacting.
Bilko, that's one explanation.
Then, if it's true, the only person that had the power to oust the Glazers was him. I think he did not have any problem with them. My opinion is, SAF would never be a puppet of the Glazers or anyone's puppet. I believe what he then said; he truly believed it.
7.) 23 Jul 2026 18:52:04
I think it comes down to what each club needs.
Now, every single United fan was in agreement at the end of last season.
We needed at least 2, ideally 3, midfielders.
We needed a ST, a LB, a LW, a CB, and probably a back up keeper.
That's 7 or 8 players needed for the first team.
You simply cannot sign more than 4 players if you are spending between 60-100m per signing.
So, the club had two options.
1. Sign 4 bigger named players for larger fees and accept that we would be light in 3 or 4 other positions of need.
2. Find more value in the market and sign 6 or 7 of the players we need.
Given the extra games we will be expecting to play this season, and the lack of squad depth, it makes sense to add more players, rather than fewer.
We've currently signed:
Darlow - free
Tielemans - 35m
Santos - 48m
Thompson - 4m
That's the back up keeper, two midfielders, and a LW player signed for an initial outlay of 87m.
Now, if that leaves enough in the kitty to then sign let's say:
Sander Berge - 40m
Adrien Truffert - 45m
Jean-Phillpe Mateta - 25m
Taking our spending up to an initial 197m while signing 7 players to strengthen the first team squad, will people still accuse them of penny pinching? Or would they have just found good value in the transfer market.
Especially when you consider that all of those players have EPL experience (with the exception of Thompson, who has at least grown up in English football).
All of those players are needed, and that still means we don't sign a CB, and our LW signing is more for the future rather than the here and now.
Or would you prefer to spend the 197m like this:
Darlow - free
Anderson - 116m
Ederson - 38m
Rafa Leao - 43m
I don't see it as penny pinching, I expect to see us spend a fair bit more, probably around the same again as we've spent already. It's about trying to find the best value for money to make sure we maximise how much we can improve our squad.
8.) 23 Jul 2026 19:19:29
So quantity over quality then, eh, Shappy? We are shopping in the mid-table market, and that's where we will end up, then. Manchester United are a dinosaur, shopping cheap, becoming a cheapasaurus.
9.) 23 Jul 2026 20:01:20
I think our business so far has been good. There is still plenty of time left, and I think a few more will come through the door. I don't think we've bought in the 'mid-table' market so far; we've bought quality at sensible prices. I'm intrigued how the season will go.
22 Jul 2026 14:11:04
I'm starting a new thread about the same subject because I believe people don't really read beyond the first few contributions and in any case, if I do add a comment at the end of a long line, I won't get any recommendations, which would be a shame because I'm sure my opinion about Rashford is completely original and absolutely on the mark.
1.) 22 Jul 2026 18:11:31
Everyone's starting to get a little punchy in here! A long way to go yet in the window yet, folks.
16 Jul 2026 14:50:16
Can any of the Eds or punters explain the exact rules for home grown players both FA and UEFA? Assuming Rashford leaves will United meet the requirements or will the size of the squad they can name be reduced? Does UEFA require 4 home grown academy players in the European squad?
We have a lot of youngsters coming through but if they're not yet 21 can they count towards meeting the requirements.
1.) 16 Jul 2026 15:23:36
You'd definitely find the rules on the World Wide Web.
2.) 16 Jul 2026 16:02:36
8 players trained by a club in the same country for at least 3 years between the ages of 18-21.
4 players trained at the same club for at least 3 years between the ages of 18-21.
The 4 at the club count towards the 8 from the country.
3.) 16 Jul 2026 16:05:03
If you register players at a club under the age of 21, they count towards the number; however, players under 21 that come under the club rule do not have to be registered.
Players under 21 who fall into neither group, nor the country group, do have to be registered.
4.) 16 Jul 2026 17:41:13
We should be ok on the homegrown quota.
Dalrow, Heaton, Shaw, Maguire, Mainoo, Mount, Rashford all count as homegrown players.
Heaton, Mainoo, Rashford, and I think Shaw are club trained, so we should be ok in that aspect.
16 Jul 2026 12:27:57
Woke up this morning on vacation with family to an explosion of political content. Comments on both discussions:
1) Licha and Argentina should be disciplined by FIFA. End of. Right or wrong most likely every Argentinian player and supporter holds the same view, and they're supposed to keep their views private. Should we just ban them all from entering or playing in the UK? The only question for United is whether he's good enough.
2) Soccernomics by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski explains in detail how in England football was/is traditionally very much a working class game. Middle and upper class players were and maybe still are viewed with suspicion. Managers were generally drawn from the same pool. A style of hard work and grit over tight skills became the norm. Even today, how many English players and managers speak more than one language? Wenger was known as the Professor because he brought a different approach to management. They believe that England's history of underperformance is firmly rooted in its class system. Middle and upper classes played rugby, except in Wales.
15 Jul 2026 14:52:30
To what extent are the FA's and UEFA's home grown rules going to affect our transfer policy from here on in?
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17 Jul 2026 21:32:09
I'm finding it difficult to believe that a player who wasn't selected for Sweden's defensively poor World Cup squad by Potter will be someone who United are likely to buy, at least not for more than £15-20m. Baseless speculation spurred by the silence coming from the club regarding its targets.
15 Jul 2026 14:50:44
United need 8 home grown players >21 in our 25 man squad. We have 9 right now. Shaw, Maguire, Mount, Rashford, Heaton, Mainoo, Mee, Heaton + Darlow. Unless we're replacing any of the above, we need them to meet the requirements. UEFA's rules may be even stricter. Do we have 4 3 year academy players?
{Ed001's Note - you don't need them, you can have a space in the squad.}
09 Jul 2026 11:32:29
I'm going to wait and see. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Presumably the club will have done its due diligence via the data department on him.
Everyone on here knows we need more depth to face a much heavier schedule next season. We don't know what will be the extent of his role, nor what other signings will take place.
Ederson and Santos will add depth, but do not remove the possibility of another more glamorous signing in midfield. Santos is young and could well emerge as a real star. He's just at the age to make an impact, if given a chance (or, indeed, not).
The window is still open for 7 weeks. Relax.
13 Jun 2026 14:39:04
Chemicals business isn't doing that well, nor are those big vehicles, but the guy who's in the concrete business who lives on the water in my town is clearly making a bundle. However, with the world running out of sand not sure that that boat hasn't sailed.
13 May 2026 14:14:38
There are similarities, but this is not the same as the Ole situation other than the fact they're both ex players. In Ole's case, the club rushed into a decision in March when they had another 6-8 weeks to further assess the situation and options. A then-utterly incompetent management team, already shrouded in failure, took shelter behind his initial success. In Ole's day the psyche was totally different. The club was still living on past successes. Now this group looks a whole lot hungrier to create the future.
We'll see. There are no guarantees. The current squad is clearly behind the manager, but by the beginning of next season there will, no doubt, be at least 5 or 6 new personalities who may or may not fit in with the rest of the players, or respond to Carrick.
As Angel says, it's now up to the management team to give him the tools. I have no doubt that's what they intend to do. With Champions League revenues, I can see them spending up to £300m, but hopefully, with the new scouting teams and analytical systems they'll not just bring in the obvious high price players but a couple of diamonds in the rough. Plus, there may be a surprise departure or two.
Opinions are divided, obviously. It's going to be a big season for us. More games, more injuries, higher expectations, etc etc. We've all seen with both Liverpool and Chelsea this season that expensive new players don't necessarily bear fruit.
Carrick has earned a shot. Good luck to him.
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23 Jul 2026 16:21:09
I said other teams were splashing the cash and that I had no idea whether what we're doing will be successful. In the end, it's a team game, and high cost players don't necessarily get you where you want to go. Isak and Wirtz last year were a great example of that.
I also said that we should have the money should the right player be available, but I am concerned that the notion that there's no value in the marketplace is taking hold again, and, in the long run, we will be doomed to challenging for European places rather than actual titles.
21 Jul 2026 20:51:49
I don't think anyone disagrees that selling Rashford is the preferred option, but if no club he wants to move to wants to buy him, then we're stuck with him. If that's the case, then we'll have to make the best of it. His wage is the equivalent of a £50m player on £120k a week.
21 Jul 2026 13:11:52
Dorgu is very adaptable and can also play on the right. I agree with those who think a new club is the best for all, but, assuming Rashford's committed 100% to the cause, he's not necessarily a bad option. His salary is high, but no amortization, so overall cost might not be prohibitive if it saves us another transfer.
It also prevents him from going to an EPL rival where, like Danny Welbeck, he could come back to haunt us! I'd let him go to Spurs if we could have Porro or Spence.
20 Jul 2026 23:11:44
Trump and the Argentine president are cut from the same cloth. Spain is Trump's least favourite European country, particularly because they refused to allow US troops use their bases.
Spain has a social democratic government and their team is a classic example of a "socialist" team in that it's greater than the sum of its parts. Other than Lamine Yamal, who didn't shine particularly, it's not a team relying on individual stars. Simon Critchley, in his very enjoyable book "What we Think about when we Think about Soccer/Football" cites Sartre's turning to football when thinking about the nature of organization. As Critchley notes: "What is taking place in an organized team is a never ceasing dialectic between the associative, collective activity of the group and the supportive, flourishing individual actions of the players whose being is only given through the team."
It's really the antithesis of most major American sports, with the continual stoppages allowing each play to be called by a management team.
The World Cup may have succeeded here both financially and as a spectacle, but let's hope the Americanizations that were adopted never take off.
Spain showed us that the sport, which is a metaphor for life, is all about the collective. Not even Messi could negate that.
20 Jul 2026 04:18:57
I'm sure the vast majority of other nationals were hoping Spain would win.
Argentina actually have some excellent players. When they go behind, they play some exciting football. Until then, their games are the antithesis of the beautiful game.
I understand how FIFA may want the games to flow, but there's two approaches to make that happen. If referees don't give out cards when justified, then the dirty play just gets worse.
Players will take advantage. If referees give out cards for bad fouls, holding and constant talking back to the referees, and preventing free kicks and penalties from being taken expeditiously, then the players will stop doing it, and the game will flow better. Take that France Panama game. How could one possibly maintain that the game flowed better with the way that game was managed?