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13 May 2026 12:55:48
So, it looks like that's it, Michael Carrick to be permanently appointed as Head Coach of Manchester United. That is the recommendation from the football committee going over to SJR according to ever reliable Laurie Whitwell.

What are people's thoughts?

Personally, there are only a few top managers I would have at the club, Simeone/Enrique/Tuchel but it looks as though none of those are available. So aside from those we have a raft of managers such as Iraola (whom I really like), Glasner, Nagelsmann, Poch (maybe) and none of these jump out.

Carrick, I believe is seen as a safe pair hands and has clearly been able to get a tune out of the current crop of players. He will only do as good as expected if we manage to sign 4/5 top class players.



And for those that will bang on about his credentials or that his another Ole like candidate, (we can not judge Carrick based on what Ole did or didn't do) just think on these other managers who went from lower jobs to top of the heap.

Arteta - Pep's assistant into the top job at Arsenal

Kompany - Relegated Burnley to Bayern

Pep - Barcelona B to being Barcelona's top dog

Zidane - Real Madrid B to top dog

Maresca - Leicester to Chelsea

Flick - Hoffenheim to Bayern

Enrique - Celta Vigo to Barcelona

He has been chosen now, so we must get behind him and hopefully the club give him the tools to succeed.

Best of luck Michael!

angelred

1.) 13 May 2026 13:50:42
Honestly, Angel, I really don't know, but I think I'd feel the same if they said thanks, Michael, and brought in someone else. Enrique aside, I'm not sure there was an outstanding external candidate or a sure-fire thing. I'm just praying it's the right choice, and the club support him with proper recruitment this summer.

Next season will be a completely different animal, so we need a strong squad to cope. I think I have Ole PTSD that's clouding my judgment, though I'm sure I'm not alone in this. Good luck to Michael. I wish him all the success in the world. GGMU. ?


2.) 13 May 2026 14:14:38
There are similarities, but this is not the same as the Ole situation other than the fact they're both ex players. In Ole's case, the club rushed into a decision in March when they had another 6-8 weeks to further assess the situation and options. A then-utterly incompetent management team, already shrouded in failure, took shelter behind his initial success. In Ole's day the psyche was totally different. The club was still living on past successes. Now this group looks a whole lot hungrier to create the future.

We'll see. There are no guarantees. The current squad is clearly behind the manager, but by the beginning of next season there will, no doubt, be at least 5 or 6 new personalities who may or may not fit in with the rest of the players, or respond to Carrick.



As Angel says, it's now up to the management team to give him the tools. I have no doubt that's what they intend to do. With Champions League revenues, I can see them spending up to £300m, but hopefully, with the new scouting teams and analytical systems they'll not just bring in the obvious high price players but a couple of diamonds in the rough. Plus, there may be a surprise departure or two.

Opinions are divided, obviously. It's going to be a big season for us. More games, more injuries, higher expectations, etc etc. We've all seen with both Liverpool and Chelsea this season that expensive new players don't necessarily bear fruit.

Carrick has earned a shot. Good luck to him.


3.) 13 May 2026 14:24:05
Bad idea - (most) performances have been very poor despite results. Maybe, with a good window, he will prove me wrong. I hope so.


4.) 13 May 2026 14:38:19
You know my thoughts already, Angel. I think our performances have greatly lagged our results under Carrick, and we've seen no evidence he can set up in anything other than a counter attacking style. There are numerous amber flags from his time in Middlesbrough that we have seen here, e.g., poor rotation of the squad members, and so on.
The counterpoint is that there are obvious flaws in our squad and that his results have been good. In close game scenarios, i.e., the start of the game at 0-0 or when a goal behind, we've seen the xG performance is consistent with Amorim, which suggests that he hasn't caused a performance regression, so it may be a conservative approach towards protecting a lead, which has worked.

The players also seem to like him, and getting a coach appointed now gives good clarity.
So, despite my reservations, I'll support the guy, and hopefully he pushes on and those amber flags are lowered.


5.) 13 May 2026 14:59:46
If that's who they appoint then we just have to get on with it.
I've very low expectations from Carrick, but I'm full of hope.
I'm not against him.
Angel, anybody could prepare a list of managers who have failed to step up as well.


Carrick was a coach under Ole, so there is a direct comparison.
Very low on expectancy, and confidence high on hope, but you never know.
If it doesn't work out, we fire him and go again, simple as that.


6.) 13 May 2026 16:34:07
Wasn't the point of the list, Ken.


7.) 13 May 2026 16:39:52
Hansi Flick would have been my choice... Done great everywhere, with good football and a mix of young and old, may have been ready for a change too....

Carrick is very uninspiring, too laid back for my liking. Not sure if he adds that extra 5% when the team is flat and the football has not been great, but he got results, so it is hardly surprising...

So maybe just more of the same. Does he kick us on? I am not convinced, but Ineos backed themselves into a corner and could not do much else....


8.) 13 May 2026 16:47:54
A direct comparison because he was a coach that worked under him? So did Kieran McKenna.

He's his own man, and I would not hold it against him, or use it as a comparison at all, because he was a coach that worked on Ole's team.

One thing you're right about there is, you never know.


9.) 13 May 2026 17:20:12
He's been chosen, so now INEOS and the Glazers need to get behind him, and back him with some good signings. We need at least 5 players, and they need to be top players. imo 2 central midfielders, a backup forward for Sesko, a right back, and a left back.


10.) 13 May 2026 17:47:46
He deserves a shot, let's see how we progress next season.

If he fails, then maybe there will be a better choice of managers available next summer.


11.) 13 May 2026 17:54:43
Or even October, Grim!
Angel, McKenna was too, you're right. He can cut it in the Championship, but not the Premiership. All we can do is wait and see and hope.


12.) 13 May 2026 18:26:49
Seen rumours that Carrick wants Aaron Danks, currently Bayern's assistant, alongside Holland potentially staying on. I think this is key. A lot of focus on Carrick, but the staff he has around him is vitally important. Danks is highly regarded, as is Holland. Sadly for McKenna, although I don't agree with it, I suspect, especially with certain individuals on the playing staff at the time, his age, playing career and lack of coaching experience at that time went against him when it came to respect and trust in him from players.

I'm glad McKenna has gone away and forged his own career, because I think he is a good coach.

A good coaching team and good recruitment in the transfer window, then I think there's no reason Carrick can't succeed, but I also think the club should just give him a 2 year contract. No need to complicate it. This may be seen as not trusting him, but review it after a year and the club can then extend or look elsewhere.


13.) 13 May 2026 19:49:18
Unfortunately, it seems the list of managers available isn't what it needs to be, and so Carrick gets it by a process of elimination. That shouldn't be the position of 'the biggest club in England'.

I'll be behind Carrick 100%, but I don't see the current streak of luck lasting across a season with a lot more games to be played.


14.) 14 May 2026 00:00:30
We do need someone on the coaching staff with attacking intent. Bringing different skills and perspective. We have a lot of defensive minded coaches.
I agree that who he surrounds himself with will make or break him.
A shrewd appointment in that regard will help no end.
The biggest thing he had in his favour is the camp looks united and the players like playing for him.
All we can do is look for the positives and hope he can answer the negatives as time goes by.
I've never had such a neutral feeling. I've been hugely optimistic with previous appointments and hugely critical of others, but with this one I feel it can go either way and I'm prepared for either scenario, tbh.


I see things he has done very well and other things not so much.
I don't see it as an emotional appointment in any way. Or a comfy one.
I do see it as cautious but calculated.
There are big questions he still has to answer, but he has answered most so far and he can only answer others as they arise.
I see leadership qualities in him and he has proven to be a fast learner so far.
I'd say the odds are against him as it's such a difficult job, but he has earned the respect of most, if only for his results, so I will be all in and full of hope if he is given the job.


15.) 14 May 2026 08:36:50
Other than the top 2/3 coaches, all of which are in posts and not leaving, I am unsure who would be better currently (without all the risks that would come with them) than giving Carrick the job. As Madrid are finding, it takes a certain type to manage our club, and who is to say that Carrick will not be a success.

Ports, I think you raise a good point on the coaching staff.

The team Carrick has currently was pulled together to do a short term job, he now has the opportunity to evaluate the ones he has and look to bring in some additional ones that could elevate the whole coaching team.

If he gets this right, alongside being able to instil his style and new recruitment, we may see a very different plan from him next year.


16.) 14 May 2026 09:45:00
Some great comments on here. Like many, I am not massively excited by Carrick, but I am struggling to see alternatives. Enrique is the standout, but is going nowhere. Who else? Carrick is not phased by United, but needs experience around him... and better players!


17.) 14 May 2026 15:26:54
It's supposed to be Manchester United, one of the biggest in the world, we are told, so virtually everyone should be available at a price. The list is endless, and no one should be off the table just because currently employed.


18.) 15 May 2026 00:53:18
Supposed to be the operative word. We are not the attraction we once were, or people believe we are.

In my mind, United are the biggest and best club in the world, but the reality is vastly different at this time.



People are not just looking at the club history, they are looking at the infrastructure behind it, and at this stage there is not a lot to show that they are making enough inroads to make it attractive to come to Old Trafford.


19.) 15 May 2026 14:38:42
I have finally made my peace with Carrick. My one question, from the outside, has been the style of play. He has done well to get results from a limited squad, and the leap of faith I'm making is that, with a better set of players, we will start to impose more control over proceedings.

I am hoping the leap of faith is not too big, because if there was a player that embodied control in the middle, it was Carrick, so it stands to reason he would want his team to play similarly as a manager.


20.) 15 May 2026 16:33:11
Do we want a lucky, good coach, or a top name?
Obviously, my favourite, if available, would be Luis Enrique, but as we know, it rarely works out well unless they embed themselves in a club's history and culture. We've had big names since SAF.
If it is to be Carrick, then give him extra resources in players, as we will need it with the extra games.

For instance, I thought we were light in midfield with a trimmed squad.
If Casemiro and Ugarte leave, we need 3 x CM of very good quality imo, just to start with.


21.) 15 May 2026 17:44:19
Good luck Michael. We're all behind you (until we're all not). ?


22.) 15 May 2026 20:56:31
I'm far from convinced by Carrick. I think they've taken the easy way out by giving him the job full time.

On paper, if you look at the results, it looks the obvious choice. But, if you actually watch the games, many of the performances have been terrible, and United have been lucky to get the points they did. The only time the team looks half decent is against the big teams, when they can counter. As soon as they have most of the ball, they look clueless.

Amad and Mbeumo have both fallen off a cliff under Carrick.

Could be a coincidence, of course.

Carrick doesn't fill me with confidence that he could coach players to improve.

Seems a very nice guy, but I don't see him ever being a top level coach. And United need a top level coach.

Of course, I could be totally full of s*** and be completely wrong. Time will tell.

I hope he turns out to be the next Pep or Arteta. I'll still be supporting him and the team. But I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't around by the end of the season.


23.) 16 May 2026 22:14:22
Lots of great comments.
I said a while ago, the key, whoever is appointed, is how the club keeps moving forward. The goal has always been to create a model that allows for staff and players to be moved on/brought in, with minimal disruption.
I hope this is the continuation of that process.

I'll get behind the team, but I will say this, if the performances continue to be as uninspiring as they have been since the City/Arsenal games, with a distinct dwindling amount of intensity, then it will not be long before I value my sleep over the dross that is served up.



Some will say that doesn't make me a fan. I don't care. I've been the fan for years, travelled back from Australia to sit in the away end at Old Trafford to watch them beat Chelsea as a peak example of commitment.

Let's see what the season brings. Hopefully we secure 3rd tonight and kick on. Would be nice if Bournemouth beat City, Liverpool lose next week, and we field a team of potential sellable assets for Brighton.... Oh, and Bournemouth win their last game too. That would be a great end to the season.


 

 

06 Jan 2026 17:27:03
Oles happening.

angelred

1.) 06 Jan 2026 17:47:56
The scenes on here if that happens…hard hats at the ready ?.


2.) 06 Jan 2026 18:06:33
I'll be sick.


3.) 06 Jan 2026 18:13:20
Absolutely desperate, at least neville and his chums will be happy, won't hear a peep out of them for the rest of the season, I can see it now, we beat city and arsenal and rio will be wailing for him to have it full time, unbelievabley funny.


4.) 06 Jan 2026 18:20:12
Maybe wilcox is on some sort of sabotage job.


5.) 06 Jan 2026 18:28:39
Jeez…. At least we have form for getting personnel back after we get rid of them.


6.) 06 Jan 2026 18:35:13
Probably fits Nevilles idea of "Utd Dna", whatever the f that is! Genuinely embarrassing when they say this.


7.) 06 Jan 2026 18:57:37
If its Ole again, then that's the final nail in the coffin.


8.) 06 Jan 2026 19:51:33
Must have fell into a time machine and gone all the way back to 2018 man utd manager gets sacked after outburst at board ole Gunnar solsjaer. Steadys the sip .


9.) 06 Jan 2026 20:10:40
Groundhog Day.


10.) 06 Jan 2026 20:16:55
Ole is a good man, loves the club and will stabilise the mood. It will be a 5 months max.

Some very disappointing comments here. Ole deserves better and respect.


11.) 06 Jan 2026 20:24:54
Ole is to sir Jim as Martin is to wee dermott up in Glasgow. I’d much rather carrick be brought in as I thought he did ok at boro and for a few months then why not.


12.) 07 Jan 2026 02:19:45
I’d take Ole and Keane until the end of the season. Fairly confident they’d have us finishing in the top four.


13.) 07 Jan 2026 08:55:27
I dot dislike Ole, but let's be honest, he did not push the club forward, at all. May E he didn't send them backwards either, but we have some very big years ahead and he is not the guy, never will be. He is a yes man. A spineless yes man. A puppet, as it were.


14.) 07 Jan 2026 09:19:30
A few thoughts re: Ole, I think there was a perception last time that he pretty much let the players do what they wanted at training - probably over-simplifying things but it seems there wasn't as much structure to the sessions behind the scenes. Maybe that's why he was so popular with the players. How much of that contributed to the 'player power' culture, with Rash/Lingard/Sancho all in full flight in that period.
That being said, I doubt there's been a more popular United manager in recent years, and I'd say that the Ole era first time round was vastly more enjoyable to watch than any other for the past 13-14 years, even the final Fergie season.


I'm not overly against Ole as caretaker, but for christs sake no matter what kind of run if any we go on, no knee-jerk contracts before the board have sat down at the end of the season and discussed properly.


15.) 07 Jan 2026 10:09:56
I still don't understand the negativity about Ole's managerial tenure. Especially as we've visibly gone downhill since he was fired.

Ole had a clear deficiency tactically, particularly regarding making changes mid-match, but I always felt this was something which he could learn, and he did make some improvement in this area during his time with us, albeit not by a lot.

However, he also had players giving their all, gave us some of our best league finishes since SAF (certainly better than we've had since he left), a fairly decent win percentage, and IMO at least, the most entertaining football we've played since SAF.

Obviously that last part is subjective, and "entertaining" is not necessarily the same as "good", but we scored a lot of goals, and even the losses tended not to be boring.


I'm not saying I want him back, but I don't understand the negativity.


16.) 07 Jan 2026 10:20:17
Carrick didn't do well at boro. His training methods were questionable and I'm sure it was a case of jobs for the boys aswell. He simply has got what it takes to be an interim manager at Utd.

The same goes for OGS. Maguire was exceptionally poor under OGS. He simply doesn't suit a 4 at the back formation. Whenever teams played pressing football against Utd, they simply buckled. Let's not forget that Ralf Rangnick said that they were not fit enough when he took over.

Let's not fall back into bad habits and employ previous managers. They need to employ an interim whonplay football similar to the next manager that comes in. A bump less changeover must happen.


17.) 07 Jan 2026 11:18:16
I am shaking my head at so many of the comments. Amorim took a poisonous player centric culture that had built up under several managers. As much and all as I admire Ole, he was one of those. I don't understand at all why we're going straight away for interim managers rather than trying to get a manager in right now.

If we cannot get those managers then fine, but not even trying seems crazy. Surely it doesn't take 6 months to evaluate who is a good coach or not.


18.) 07 Jan 2026 12:32:43
Don red. For our lot it probably does. Their end of season review of eth took about 6 weeks. ?‍♂️.


19.) 07 Jan 2026 13:16:32
DonRed,

I'd imagine that the club are potentially looking at Glasner, Tuchel, Iriaola whose contracts expire this summer. to save money and give them time to have a full pre season.

There was talk that Enrique is ready for a new challenge etc. He would be by first pick, but he was to leave PSG, he will likely end up at City. They fit like a glove.


20.) 07 Jan 2026 13:44:53
Mad Hatter, the potential cost from a lower league position is likely to be much higher than the cost to get Glasner or Iraola now. As for Enrique, unless he has clearly indicated that he wants to come to us then waiting for him seems like a fools errand.


21.) 07 Jan 2026 15:02:43
DonRed,

I would happily go for Glasner or Iraola now.


22.) 07 Jan 2026 17:41:33
Get Glasner now, don't wait. Grease the wheels of Guehi, Munoz and Wharton on the way out.
It seems so simple, yet we will buckle to the OGS 2.0 a d we will be here again in a year or two when he gets found out for being tactically inept. I would say he is only good at being a people person and not upsetting anyone, hence the player power debacle.

We need a leader, he is not a leader.

There is a video of him talking about Keane, you can see he is just in awe of him, but you can also see that he is incapable of relocating that trait.

Again, I don't dislike the guy, I was a teenager when he scored against Munich and recall dancing around like a madman. But not once did I dance around when he was manager, because he is not a manager, he relied too heavily on the say so of Fergie at the time.


 

 

26 Jun 2025 11:34:02
Good old rumour here lads. Rashford has sold a couple of cars as he is off to Spain and it's pretty much done. That's according to the guy who sold the cars. i presume it's Barcelona he is off too, as he didn't mention a club.

angelred

1.) 26 Jun 2025 12:04:50
I remember when we used to get loads of these, brilliant! Thank you for sharing.


2.) 26 Jun 2025 12:29:41
This the same guy who sorted Depay’s cars a few years ago.


3.) 26 Jun 2025 12:53:42
I don't know who did that grim. But this fella does a lot of players.


4.) 26 Jun 2025 12:55:37
Very highly doubt he'll be going barcelona.


5.) 26 Jun 2025 13:07:53
@Dn8red maybe if he signs for Espanyol.


6.) 26 Jun 2025 13:21:06
Barca probably have better ball boys than Rashford.


7.) 26 Jun 2025 14:21:03
If they do spenno, maybe we can sign them as we have a problem with scoring goals and rashford did a lot of that for us.

15 starts for us last season and had 7 goals. and that was bad apparently.

Lucky we got rid of him and scored a lot more ?.


8.) 26 Jun 2025 14:31:22
Rashford is a bad ball boy as well but wants the job at Barca? ?.


9.) 26 Jun 2025 14:40:43
Is Rashford not aware we have these big boats called ferries that take cars?


10.) 26 Jun 2025 14:42:30
Love these old school rumours. usually someone who is working on house search in advance!
I would not be surprised if Rashford was wanted by Barcelona as he can cover the wing and striker positions. With Williams looking like he will come in and them still having Raphina and Lamal it feels like he will be going as a rotational piece.
Ideally a sale but realistically with their financial position with La Liga (unless they have pulled more levers! ) it will be a loan with a fee and wages covered. possibly option/ obligation to buy.


11.) 26 Jun 2025 15:27:05
Don't care where he goes i hope he gets the move he wants and if he true he will do well at Barcelona I'm sure.
He is not wanted here by the management the coach or the vast majority of fans.
Goodbye good riddance and good luck.
I don't get the obsession of where he goes as long as he goes its the main thing.
A loan and no wages to pay helps the finances considerably and I think he could do well enough to be bought next year.
Much rather a sale but the squad and manager need him to be gone for the betterment if everybody including himself.


12.) 26 Jun 2025 20:16:45
I heard he was on a mission to give Spanish children decent school dinners not paella rubbish.


13.) 26 Jun 2025 22:03:49
Salford, do you know any kids that struggle for food?

Because I do, very well. And you might find a joke in it, but 1000s dont.

{Ed007's Note - What do you want, an MBE?}


14.) 27 Jun 2025 00:30:32
Angel. I applaud what Rashford did BUT on the playing field since then he has done nothing of note.

I have no idea what if any personal issues he does or does not have in his life but he is getting paid a fortune to play for Utd. He has not given good value for that money. That's beyond dispute. His salary for one year would have paid for a helluva lot of school meals.

And my comment was tongue in cheek but with a serious side to it too. What sort of example is he setting to those children who support Utd and idolise him. especially the kids from Manchester who see him as one of their own. His actions detract from all the good work he has and my still be doing unknown to me.


15.) 27 Jun 2025 09:33:13
You might think rashford is a nice guy 1000's don't.
Criticism and people's indifference to rashford seems to rattle you angel. Deary me.


16.) 26 Jun 2025 23:03:25
What you on about ed?

{Ed007's Note - Didn't Rashford accept a bauble as a pat on the head from the very establishment he was speaking out & campaigning against?


17.) 27 Jun 2025 11:55:37
Yes Ed he did. Champagne Socialist.

{Ed007's Note - There's plenty of them about mate.??

"But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:3-4) ??


 

 

04 Jun 2025 11:53:08
Hey ed001, I know you're a well connected guy and have been answering transfer questions on other pages. But do you know if Gyokeres is someone united are pursuing as a possible transfer?

angelred

{Ed001's Note - he is an odd one, everyone looks but no one wants to actually pay up and sign him. Amorim likes him and he loves Amorim apparently, so I would not be surprised if a move is made when you clear the decks.}


1.) 04 Jun 2025 13:23:22
Managers normally like to bring a player they have worked with before.

A striker is a must for us I think if we can get some sales in we will sign him.

Other than gyokores, oshimen and i'd say kane there’s not many strikers out there

The pool for strikers is so poor compared to the 2000s

A dying breed strikers atm.


2.) 04 Jun 2025 13:29:08
Doing it in Portugal is one thing the EPL is a different animal, it's always a risk.


3.) 04 Jun 2025 14:11:39
Watching Gyorkeres in the Champions League and minimal you tube match highlights for Sporting he definitely looks decent especially if the £55m is true.

The only issue is we have been burned previously with players from the Managers old team. but if the price is reasonable and the system being specific I feel like this is one that would work.

The longer time goes on the more other clubs seem to be moving for other targets, we may be doing work behind the scenes which is why nothing with other clubs is coming out. The way Mbuemo information went we could suddenly get news he has chosen us and discussions with Sporting!

I would defintely take our front 3 if he does come in. defenses will not get a minutes rest with the work rate.


4.) 04 Jun 2025 14:25:48
Yes AJH, but his numbers are incredible. Like, not just good numbers, incredible numbers, both domestic and in Europe. And with strikers, it's all about confidence, and Gyokeres has that in abundance. I think he would be a great signing.

Ed001 thanks. I thought he would be ideal for arsenal and liverpool, particularly given his asking price, it's very attractive. But because they haven't made a move for him or they seem to be looking elsewhere, it has me thinking that he may have made a commitment already to someone else. It was with RA that those numbers were reached. So here's to hoping they can get that done.


5.) 04 Jun 2025 15:25:24
I'm pretty down about our situation, but if we can move on Rash, Sancho, Antony, and Garnacho, and replace with Cuenha Mbuemo, and Gyokeres, then we may see a significant uplift.


6.) 04 Jun 2025 17:15:38
Cunha, Mbuemo, and Gyokeres would be an incredible front three.


7.) 04 Jun 2025 18:14:04
Well, I did read a private rumour that someone in Portugal knows Gyokeres and he wants to come to us. No idea if true but this is a rumour site and have to wonder why Arsenal are not all over him.

I suspect the financial year end is 30th June so the club may wish to push some financial outlay when buying into July, whilst selling and have that income in year end June 25 . Depends also, what day pre season starts because RA will want to have them mainly in as early as possible.


8.) 04 Jun 2025 19:55:49
Red man. I think Gyokeres has said to them he doesn't want to go there. It's the only reason I can think of.


9.) 04 Jun 2025 21:14:06
Watch me be completely wrong by the way ?.


10.) 04 Jun 2025 21:24:21
Red Man, I think there could be something in your post. I’ve read a couple places that Gyokeres loves Amorim and visa versa so clearly a relationship there. It is strange there are not more rumours of clubs pushing for him, he would be the most sort after striker that is available this summer you’d have thought. And the financial year point is fair and perhaps with their previous work, Amorim would be happier for a player like him to come in later as he knows what Amorim would want in his system as opposed to others who Amorim would be new to this so the urgency may not be as important for Gyokeres. Shift some players out between now and then to make financials easier. Or this could all be complete nonsense and he’s on his way to Newcastle ?.


11.) 04 Jun 2025 23:42:10
I think people forget Gyokeres has already played in England and was very good, ask Coventry fans what they think of him, they will all tell you he’s the real deal. Ok it was the championship but he’s proved he can handle English football, I think that’s a positive on top of the fact he’s scored over 50 goals in a season, no mean feat anywhere.


12.) 04 Jun 2025 23:42:13
Ssvredman aludes to wanting push purchases back to 30th June for Accoubting reasons makes sense but so to does sales. If right now you have balanced PSR for the last three years then there is a benefit to the future by moving sales to July.


13.) 04 Jun 2025 23:50:08
I'd be completely stunned if we somehow ended this window with a completely new front free of Cunha/ Mbeumo/ Gyokeres.
On Gyokeres, I think without the RA connection most would probably be urging us to steer clear, it's only the Portuguese league, he was at Coventry etc. Ok he's no Rooney or van the man but this is the guy RA made, he's the single-most suitable player for this club right now bar none. Surprised no-one has already snapped him up tbh unless he's waiting for something. If it doesn't happen, well I guess he just makes another one.


14.) 05 Jun 2025 11:50:11
Also, mostly why players struggle in pl is because of the physical side and pace.
He has got both in abundance.


15.) 05 Jun 2025 12:14:33
Absolutely spot on GDS2.

I am from Coventry so saw a lot of him and he is a great player. The old argument comes in regarding players from foreign leagues. Can they do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke? Yes - He scored against them 3 times in 6 games.


16.) 05 Jun 2025 12:26:21
I'll be astonished but delighted if we can get Gyokeres. Obviously, he knows Amorim and the system but he has played in England, is able to fashion chances for himself with the ball at his feet as well as being a physical presence. He's also scored a shed load in the last few years. Probably the best striker we could hope for right now.

A front 3 of Mbuemo, Cunha and Gyokeres should, I stress should, bring us a significant upgrade in attack next season, especially if we can get a quality midfielder in to play alongside Bruno that can allow him to get forward too.


17.) 05 Jun 2025 14:26:48
I still think Hojlund can be our main man in a few years, and I think Gyokeres could be key to helping him fulfil his potential.

Firstly, Hojlund needs to have the pressure taken off him. Gyokeres would naturally be first choice, moving Hojlund to backup/ impact sub etc. Being clear 2nd choice to one of the top strikers in the world won't hit his confidence like being 2nd choice behind a lesser striker, and confidence is clearly an area he's already struggling in.

Secondly, there is probably no-one better he could learn from in terms of learning to play the role Amorim wants him to fill. He has the raw attributes for it, he just needs to learn how to pull it all together, and working with Gyokeres can help with that.

Meanwhile Gyokeres is the perfect fit as a first choice striker for Amorim and will go a long way to solving our goal shortage by himself.


18.) 05 Jun 2025 15:59:00
One of the top strikers in the world! That’s a bit of a stretch, let’s not go that far, yes great if we could get him, but he is not one of the best in the world…
Plus Rasmus ego to big to accept being back up, he won’t never be what we need, coaches been working with him non stop and he getting worse not better! That’s a worry.


19.) 05 Jun 2025 16:26:02
Something seems a little off to me with Gyokeres. Sporting are willing to let him go for £25m less than his buy out clause. He’s scored buckets of goals and yet nobody has shown any concrete interest that we know of.

You’d think with his goals record and the lack of available strikers in the market there would be a queue for him.

Just weird that there’s not much happening with him. Maybe it will all start in July, or maybe there is lots going on in the background that we don’t know about, or maybe it’s because he wants United.


20.) 05 Jun 2025 20:21:10
It was reported last year that if he stayed for another year then Sporting would drop the price this year.

As for interest I don't know how to gauge this, maybe his management company don't know anyone on Tik Tok. I do know the window opened on the 1st June and the accounting year ends on 30th June.

Plus it was Vic's birthday yesterday, I hope Amorim remembered to WhatsApp him.


21.) 05 Jun 2025 21:26:07
Reading some of the Sporting fan pages they seem to want him to move on to bigger things and use the money to reinvest, plus the have Conrad Harder who they expect big things of.


22.) 06 Jun 2025 20:49:43
I’m coming around to the idea that he’s 100% signing for us.

His numbers are too good. Other sides would want him but they’ve obviously been told no.

Mbuemo to be in by the 10th, then sell, sell, sell for the rest of June. Garnacho, Rashford, Sancho, Antony should all bring in £125m combined. They Gyokeres comes in and Hojlund leaves on loan.


23.) 07 Jun 2025 11:40:44
Downsie, the problem is that not all the money brought in from those players will be profit that can be used to reinforce the squad.

Rashford will sell for 30-35m in my opinion, the club want 40m but I don't see any buyers prepared to take on his wages or even come close to them. However, whatever he goes for is pure profit.

Garnacho the club wants 60m, I expect something more like 45m plus add-ons taking it to something like 55 or 60m in the end. This would also be pure profit.

In theory the club wants 100m from them two, in reality it'll probably be more like 80m, at least in the short term.

Sancho we still owe 17m on amortisation for him. So only money above that figure counts at profit. Which sadly it is unlikely we get much above that amount for him.

Antony we still owe 35m on amortisation for him. It'll be a miracle if we get someone willing to pay that much for him, let alone more to garner a profit. I'd expect us to agree a loan deal with an obligation to buy next summer for around 30m which might actually be better for us as by that time we will only owe around 20m on amortisation for him meaning we on paper make around a 10m profit.

There are very few players in our squad that we can actually sell for a guaranteed profit.

Bruno, Mainoo, Shaw, Dalot and Collyer are the other ones alongside Rashford and Garnacho.

Of those we might get 10-15m for Collyer, Dalot should fetch 25-30m, Mainoo 45-50m, and Shaw we would be lucky to get 5m given his wages and injuries. While Bruno has committed himself to the club.

The only one of these players I see us possibly selling is Collyer, with maybe an outside chance of Mainoo if someone came in and made a silk offer for him.

All the other players in our squad we have to sell for at least a certain amount before we get any profit from them. Whereas if we sell them for sell than that then it actually counts as a loss and reduces our budget.

Casemiro needs to go for at least 18m, Onana for at least 30m, Højlund for at least 38m, Mount 35m, MdL 40m, Martinez 25m, Mazraoui 8m, Malacia 4m, Ugarte 38m, Amad 12m, Zirkzee 22m, and Bayindir 8m. Maguire because we triggered the one year option we would need to do some sort of agreement with him to split any potential fee with him to avoid profiteering issues. Which ultimately means we get little to nothing from that deal.

There are a few players there that we might be able to gain a profit for (Amad and Mazraoui probably, but we wouldn't want to sell them), most of them a fairly small one (Malacia, Bayindir, and Zirkzee we might be able to raise 5-8m profit from each of them) . The rest we would be lucky to break even on.

There will be a lot of players leaving this summer, but few of them will actually raise any funds to replace them in our squad. They get the wages off the wage bill, but that's about it.

I expect the club to try and have a purge this summer, take advantage of not being in Europe and having less games to cut the squad down and have a smaller squad with more reliance on the academy for squad depth. A year with lower expenditure on wages will help out PSR. Then if we get back into Europe next season then we can look to fill out the squad a bit more next summer to cope with the increase in games.

I see 12 to 15 players leaving in total across the first team squad (one of Onana/ Bayindir, Evans, Malacia, Lindelof, Eriksen, Gore, one of Collyer/ Casemiro, Rashford, Antony, Sancho, Garnacho, Wheatley, and possibly Højlund) . Possibly seeing both Bayindir and Onana and both Casemiro and Collyer leave if we get acceptable offered for all of them. I'd imagine Collyer and Bayindir are more likely to leave than Onana and Casemiro as we stand to make more money from them and they are easier to shift.

Then we will likely sign 5 players to go into the first team (GK, CM, AM, Cunha, ST) . With maybe 2-3 youngsters to initially go into the academy like we did with Obi and Kone.

Which means twice as many leave our first team as join making our squad smaller by 6 or 7 players.


 

 

10 Dec 2024 13:34:35
Lots of rumours and articles being written that Marcus Rashford could be on his way out.

All the talent in the world, that lad. I think the time is right for both the club and him to break. Could be exactly what's needed for both parties.

angelred

1.) 10 Dec 2024 14:05:14
Absolutely, he needs a fresh start and a move abroad away from British Media would do him a world of good imo. Need to move him on also for the sake of the team as he has become a bit of a problem when it comes to selection because, imo of who he is, local boy through the academy. Sad it has come to this but don't see what either party is getting out of him staying (from a footballing point of view, he may argue £300k P/ W is worth sticking around for! )


2.) 10 Dec 2024 14:05:55
If United can clear their £60m future commitment to wages and actually get a decent transfer fee as well, which will be all profit, then it would probably be a good thing for all involved. Rashford may well be very effective somewhere else but it looks like the EPL is no longer a place where his skillset outweighs his limitations.


3.) 10 Dec 2024 14:27:57
Never fulfilled his talent and quite honestly his head is up his a***. If we can find a buyer then great, it’s not like he’s a massive contributor on the pitch and saving his wages and setting a precedent is well worth it. No point being ruthless unless we apply it to the biggest culprits…the players.


4.) 10 Dec 2024 15:32:31
He is elite at some aspects of the game, but doesn't seem to want to put the effort into improving his all-round game. I assume it's desire as most of those aspects such as pressing, movement off the ball, hold up play, are all those that players generally improve on over time. As such it is too easy for him to be nullified if the game isn't working to his advantage. Definitely time to move on. The issue will be getting a club willing to pay his wages.


5.) 10 Dec 2024 16:31:35
The Telegraph writes that the club are "open" to a sale. I assure you they will be open to the right offer on pretty much all of the current squad. It's just a question of price. But in any event, being open to a sale - something that's glaringly obvious in the case of Rashford - is quite different from having offers on the table. I'd love to see it but, frankly, getting rid of him maybe even more difficult than getting rid of Sancho, or indeed, Martial. Another absolutely disastrous error of judgement committed prior to SJR. Let's commit £75m over the next 5 years to protect a wasting asset.

Part of the process of great managership is to know when to sell. Clough and Taylor were masters of the craft. Sell at the crest of the wave and buy the next thing cheaply. Liverpool did extremely well with Coutinho and Suarez. Ferguson sold RVN and Beckham. He also sold Ronaldo, of course, but at that time the money went to debt repayment and was not reinvested.

No player should be allowed to get too big for the club. If you're so scared of losing a player that you're prepared to overpay up the wazoo to renew a contract then your team is already well on the way to decline. Moyes was desperate to keep Rooney, De Gea became the best paid goalie in the EPL to the tune of £100k per week: Rashford is but the latest example. It's another extremely dysfunctional aspect of the club that needs to be fixed.

I can't guarantee SJR will be successful but were the value of United not buoyed by our global recognition, making it more valuable by far as an asset that the income it now generates, I could have seen the Glazers driving the club into bankruptcy. That's how bad it had become.


6.) 10 Dec 2024 18:20:46
Shawthing, I never usually post but feel obliged to with your ludicrous statement that Glazers could have bankrupted the club your supposed to be a figures man so how can you substantiate that remark! Total made up waffle more like a child’s statement.


7.) 10 Dec 2024 20:37:55
I can’t see a permanent move but a loan abroad could do him a world of good.
Don’t see much coming in in terms of a ready-made replacement and we might not need one right off. But LWB is a priority, maybe Dorgu. Nypan in mid.


8.) 10 Dec 2024 21:41:20
Germansupp: I qualified my remark, by saying that the club's global recognition makes it more valuable than its profitability warrants. Without that, the £1bn in debt, would quite possibly not be supportable. They could not easily increase it, and without more money, could not get back into the game. The Glazers gave up 27% of the equity not because they wanted to but because they had to. Under their leadership it was headed down the toilet. What would two or three more bad seasons and a trip to the Championship have resulted in? Any other business with revenues of £650m, potentially declining, no profits, and £1bn in debt would have a hard time staying on its feet.


9.) 11 Dec 2024 04:08:48
Sorry that’s opinion not factual…. They sold 27% because what fool would not, if another fool comes in wants to give you shed load of money more than you originally purchased for and still only by minority then take over the running, if it works they end up with even more money, if it don’t they still own controlling interest and had there money back, you seem to think the Glazers are fools and someone posting on a forum is more qualified then them and there multi advisors who play in billionaire circles daily…. Your trying to spout big words and untruths to sound like your more qualified than them, which is just nonsense.
BTW the minority owner is making a pigs ear of it anyway!
I don’t like Glazers or SJR BUT running the business into the ground is poppycock and you know it… football is not like any other business and you with your spreadsheets and zero activity in it won’t wash.


10.) 11 Dec 2024 11:46:00
Imo you’re wrong angel. I don’t think he does have the talent. If he did he’d make a lot better decisions on the ball. He constantly makes the wrong call when the balls at his feet, or approaching him.
He was fortunate to have a very short period where he was on fire but i don’t think that's all the talent in the world.


11.) 11 Dec 2024 12:54:30
Clearly something has been leaked to the press to try and drum up some interest. The way this clubs operates is beyond a joke.


12.) 11 Dec 2024 13:35:09
Rashford is incredibly talented, go check out his highlights reel.

He was always streaky, but at one point he was carrying the team, just before he injured his back. Since then he had the one season where he was hot but his issue is inconsistency and application. He doesn't look interested, ambles around, and given his talent, doesn't deliver.

It's a crying shame, he could have been the stand out superstar but for whatever reason, he just isn't up for it. He always came across as a humble boy, but now it's tattoos, jewellery, flash cars, trips to the US. He's free to do what he wants off the field, but when he isn't delivering on the pitch, then he can expect to get some grief.


13.) 11 Dec 2024 13:52:58
German. again, you're twisting what I said to make your own point, which I've acknowledged already. The Glazers maybe absolutely clueless about running an actual football club, but financial mugs? No. For all the reasons you mentioned, quite brilliant. The partial sale was a masterpiece. It presumably assuaged the family members who were pushing for a total sale and were upset about their dividends being eliminated. They are fully aware, particularly from being NFL owners, of the elevated value of sports franchises, even though in the closed shop salary-capped US franchise system, there is no chance of relegation, revenues are largely guaranteed, and profitability is secured. They backed the European Super League because they wanted to turn soccer into the same gravy boat. Thank God they did not succeed otherwise we could be at the dawn of 3 1/ 2 games with 12 minutes of action and endless advertisements.

P. S. I'm not claiming to be a financial expert. Nor do I analyze anything on spreadsheets.


14.) 11 Dec 2024 14:35:47
Exactly Shawthing and I also hear that the food served in the canteen is not up to scratch so let's hope SJR gets his chef's hat on too.


15.) 11 Dec 2024 14:41:21
Ajh, i think Rashford is best when he doesn’t have to think too much. Mid level finisher but that is his strongest point.

He’s not that talented i'm sorry to say. But i respect your view and we can both disagree.


16.) 11 Dec 2024 15:05:24
Okay gnev, you're opinion, I don't agree with it.

Talent doesn't always equal end product, lots of factors in between.

I think he has all the talent and according to those within the game he is an incredible talent. I think he has lost his way a bit and a reset could be good for him. A good guy.


17.) 11 Dec 2024 22:22:54
Rashford is a player who had huge potential, and on his day is still a class player. However, the constant chopping and changing of managers and playing style, along with him playing through injuries has meant he hasn't managed to fulfil that potential.

Recently his attitude has come under question, and he certainly seems less motivated on the pitch. Maybe that's a result of living with pain and playing through the injuries. It could be that he's just got to a point where he's decided the extra work isn't worth the pain anymore.
Maybe it's the wages and life style has gone to his head.
Maybe he's decided his efforts and the sacrifices he has made for the club aren't appreciated by either the club or the fans so what's the point.

Ultimately we don't know and we probably never will.

What we do know is the we have a player on huge wages who isn't putting in performances to warrant them.

We know he was a supremely gifted youngster who has been an almost ever present in the first team since the age of 17 (it's almost 10 years since his debut) . We know he is a player who previously showed great work rate and effort, turning up early for training and staying late. We know he has shown himself to be a humble man who has campaigned for those less fortunate than himself, not for personal glory, but from a position of having suffered like them and wanting to make a difference to those young people.

Yet something has changed, altered, broken. He isn't that player anymore and he doesn't appear to be that man either.

There's no point in getting into the blame game, or demonising anyone. I'm sure that there is plenty of people who can share some of the blame, be that managers, people at the club, fans and the player himself.

Either way it's probably time for a parting of the ways. It's definitely in the players best interests, and long term it's probably in the clubs as well.

We have to appreciate and understand that if/ when he leaves, we will be losing our more recognised and proven forward. No one at the club currently has played better than Marcus for a sustained period of 6 months or more EVER in their United career. That weakens us both on the pitch AND in the minds of our opposition.

While there are absolutely no guarantees that we either will be able to sign a replacement or that any replacement will be even at the same level as Rashford let alone an upgrade.

We could easily sell Rashford and sign Antony 2.0.

However, the writing appears to be on the wall. Rumours suggest that we expect or are willing to accept offers of around 40m. Which seems about right to me. Signing a 27 year old on a low ebb but on massive wages. I don't see anyone being prepared to pay much more than 40m all things considered.


18.) 12 Dec 2024 09:10:20
Rashford is not an elite level player, he had potential and bags of it, at 27 we can safely say he isn’t capable of reaching it at the club. For his career and the good of the club, he needs to leave. Running doesn’t take talent it just requires desire, there’s 74,310 people in that stadium that would run themselves into the ground given the opportunity, unfortunately it looks like Rashford has lost that desire.


19.) 12 Dec 2024 10:34:09
Rash out, Mitoma in in summer :D.


20.) 12 Dec 2024 15:10:48
Send him to M and S.


21.) 12 Dec 2024 18:32:28
Lets not forget Rashford only got his chance because of an injury crisis.

Otherwise, I don't think we'd be having this debate beacuse Rashford would have sold to Fulham at the age of 18.


 

 

 

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06 Aug 2026 10:48:47
So as the last few weeks of the window approach. Who do we think the club will sign? If Rashford leaves I think we sign 3, if he stays I think we sign 2.

I'm gonna say a LB and a CM are the definites.

There seems to be a few things happening on the outgoings at the moment, so very interesting times for the club.

Our usual dependable journalists like Mitten and Whitwell, who are usually well up on a lot of movements in the club have been very quiet this window and they don't seem to have a lot of info.

Tells me the club have completely closed ranks.

I've been very happy over the last couple of seasons but would like to see a couple more reinforcements come in this summer to strengthen us.

angelred

1.) 06 Aug 2026 12:46:05
Not bothered who we sign, to be honest. We have signed 80-90 million pounds players who did crap. So, I will trust those in charge to do their jobs as good as they can, with the constraints they're working to.


2.) 06 Aug 2026 13:15:19
Cheers, Ken. ??

Anyone else want to have a crack at who we think we might sign, either names or positions. Bit of fun. ?


3.) 06 Aug 2026 13:15:59
The club uses the likes of Mitten and Whitwell to put out rumours that benefit them. Been going on for years. Let's face it, we were never in for Anderson, Semenyo, Kane, and on and on. But it serves the club's purpose to put it out that these guys are their top targets when they know they are not going to put together the financial package to convince their club to sell or the player to join. Just want to make it look like we are in the conversation for a perceived top level player.

Someone recently posted the list of players we have signed and got nothing for when they left. Worse, we have to continue to pay wages or pay them to leave.



Rumours of the Madrid boys don't come from nowhere. We are just letting it be known we favor getting one of them to any other third midfielder. It is a safe rumour; we can always say they didn't want to come, Madrid wanted too much, the player's wages too high. We are signing players for mid-table money, on mid-table wages.

Two signings look pretty good. We are asking the scouts and Carrick to perform alchemy. Let's hope it can work. Stability in UCL and challenging for league and cups as the next step. Can we stay there, or will bigger spending teams overtake us? Time will tell.


4.) 06 Aug 2026 13:41:34
Maybe so, DB, but I do like them, particularly Mitten, who is very well connected and always seems to be well informed regardless of the subject matter, and in life that tells me he is well liked and respected.

I'm sure the club use him where they can, but he has also built up many contacts outside of the club that I am sure also inform him.



I'm just saying, the fact that neither of them, and many others, seem to have a clue about targets tells me that the club are tight lipped.

To be honest, it is great. They have been shrewd in their signings and I look forward to seeing who comes next.

I'd like a LB, CM and CB if Rashford stays.


5.) 06 Aug 2026 13:54:03
Antonee Robinson, and a CM before end of window... 1 of Baleba, Kone or Tchouameni. Maybe a CB too.


6.) 06 Aug 2026 14:08:12
I would have said Baleba, but no idea where his current injury leaves that.


7.) 06 Aug 2026 14:11:22
I think Mitten has to be well informed. For example, look at Chewyournanny. I nearly fell off my chair when Mitten said on the day he agreed his new deal that he still might be sold and we will be waiting for him before going for our third midfielder. Now that comment looks spot on instead of utterly bizarre. Never heard a rumour like that ever in memory I agree with Ken though, we have to become a little more disconnected between the sticker prices of sole of these players and the actual value they would bring. For example. If anyone reckons that Anderson is 3.5 times better than Anderson, or that Diomande is 4 times better than Amad then you sure as rubbish won't be asked to do my grocery shopping. We need attitude, behaviour and character purchases aligned to data driven performances. That's hard to deliver on every time as there's always likely to be one or two bits that are false indicators or outlier datasets that cannot continue. Always going to be errors in any recruitment. i'm a business owner so I know I don't want to waste money and I also know I do so every month. Drives you mental u til you a cept paretos law. I think k we still see the CM as our next purchase and also hope someone still comes in for rashford whilst paying attention to our next pre season or even the last next week before making any more firm commitments. We need to see how or who we can move players on that are not vital to our future. See what the pot is and also who's available. But we definitely have 3 nailed on purchases in mind I like the fact we have very little idea other than chewmynanny exactly what that looks like.

That's the united of old. Waking up one morning to Andy cole being signed, or Jaap team, Schmeichel, Solskjaer, Cantona or Vidic, following a transfer saga only to see them pivot to United like Berbatov. Younger fans might know them as legends but I promise you, there were plenty of signings that you all love that I remember first reaction being really, did we, wow and even more signings that befofe the did we it being who? Who are they, never heard of them. And yet we had 20 years of magic. And like magic, its always almost impossible to see how they pulled it off. So I prefer the sit back and see and then wait and see the results than judging in advance, becaise I have hlbeen pleasantly wrong way more often than recent years when I am like, yeah great, Falcao, Di Maria, Pogba, Antony, McGuire, Sancho, Sanchez Mhikitarian. All massive failures and totally held back our progress. Also looking at other teams who are now firmly in that trap. Liverpool Newcastle and Chelsea whilst this year's contenders are firmly City Arsenal and Spurs. Doesn't stop.me trawling these pages and the news sites every minute of the day. But I find myself these days reading and saying out loud oh get a grip what a load of tripe rather than wa hey that sounds great. I just can't wait foe the window to be over or at least the season to start so we can get on with it. Right now i'm like a fatty stood outside Greggs waiting foe them to open and I can smell it through the window.


8.) 06 Aug 2026 16:09:59
Co.
Can you imagine the reactions from the usual suspects if we signed an unheard of Dutchman or Norwegian or Dane as our key signings. ???


9.) 06 Aug 2026 18:01:57
At the moment I'd be happy if they signed someone that can simply kick a ball.

Without significant reinforcements, the team will struggle with the extra games. Most of the back 4 are either slow, injured, or about to be injured.


10.) 06 Aug 2026 18:15:22
Angel

I don't know who the club will sign tbh. What I would like to see is
LB. Hall
CM Scott
ST. Watkins

If I was fickle, I would say no one. Carrick then fails, gets sacked, and they might get a better manager, but I am not. They need to give him a chance now they chose him.


11.) 06 Aug 2026 18:27:30
Last year, you wanted to sign Baleba, Red Man. Do you not want him anymore?


12.) 06 Aug 2026 18:29:59
I like the two key players signed (others I believe are youth / future players / fringe squad at best).

We need a good leftback and another midfielder (don't trust Mount's fitness and would like a more physically dominant CM to round out the squad).

Would love a rightback who can attack and defend, but not expecting movement on that this year.

We need a second specialist striker, but doubt they will sign one when we have Fernandes, Cunha, Mbeumo, Amad, Mount, Dorgu, Lacy and now Rashford to fit into the team.

But imagine Sesko gets a long-term injury, we are too close to no striker for comfort. Can others fill in? Yes. But they should only be in that position when injuries mount up, not when your only player needs a rest or has an injury.


13.) 06 Aug 2026 19:07:42
Let's see where they are in 3 weeks time, Red Man.

LB, CM and Forward would be ideal.


14.) 06 Aug 2026 19:11:00
Sign Hall or Truffert.
Sign Scott or Baleba.

Sell Rashford and some fringe players.


15.) 06 Aug 2026 19:27:24
TW

Do you keep files on people?

Did I want Baleba? Can you show me my post or posts that said that. To be honest I don't remember being that enamoured with Baleba. The position yes.

Is he not injured now?

Angel
I agree on the three weeks. Guess we have seen the owners mess with us all before and that is the concern. I really hope for those three with a very good level of quality.


16.) 06 Aug 2026 20:14:16
I don't keep files, I have a photographic memory for the written word.
Reply.
? Red Man
? 10 Aug 2025

10 Aug 2025 10:39:08 DCL is apparently willing to sign as a back up for Sesko, once Hojland goes.

Sacked his agent to make it happen. As a pure back up with low wages, I don't think that's a bad call. A top GK and Baleba is a very, very good window, possibly our best ever.


17.) 06 Aug 2026 20:17:41
Yes, rolled his ankle. Red Man should be out till mid September.


18.) 06 Aug 2026 20:16:41
There is another 4 or 5 posts from you calling for his signing last summer.
So why don't you want him anymore? I think that's fickle. Scott you never mentioned last summer and only when Bournemouth said they don't want to sell him you've been pushing his name.
Your more see through than a roll of clingfilm.


19.) 06 Aug 2026 20:38:53
The extraordinary thing, Redman, is you don't remember wanting a player that would have been in possibly our best window ever. ??


20.) 06 Aug 2026 20:42:32
Baleba was trash last season, and Scott had a breakout year? Maybe. I have to say I'm not certain about Scott to go with our other midfielders, but my biggest concern right now is sheer numbers and availability (Mount) versus playing someone out of position (Bruno) or from youth (not ready). So, any decent cm with a modicum of experience and I'm happy at this stage.


21.) 06 Aug 2026 21:16:20
TW

Clutching at straws a bit.

10 Aug, after we had already signed Cunha, MBueno and Sesko. So Baleba was not the key signing, but a CM who we needed. Icing on the cake.

I get you want to try to destroy any semblance of anti-Glazer or negative comment about Ratcliffe, but that's a bit weak.


Actually, thank you, it flags I was recognising we needed a good CM 12 months ago and the owners still haven't dealt with it.


22.) 06 Aug 2026 22:31:12
This time of year on here is just comedy gold!


23.) 06 Aug 2026 23:02:36
Red Man, do you not like Tielemans or Santos?

We have spent over a billion pounds in the last 5 seasons, Red Man. I'm not sure spending endless amounts of money is the answer. It certainly hasn't been up to now.

It's about picking the right players, whatever the cost, and I think that's what they're trying to do.


24.) 06 Aug 2026 23:24:32
No, Red Man, you thought we could get 4th or 5th if we signed Baleba. We came 3rd with no new midfielder. Not as astute as you make out.
You wanted Baleba. This year you don't. But you want Scott, and have been pushing his name since they said they won't sell him, so it will give you something else to moan about.


Getting Baleba in with a keeper would have made it 'our best window ever.' Not a keeper and a midfielder, a specific midfielder Baleba!
You'd have made a good copper, cos you just keep lying, even when presented with your own words.


 

 

05 Aug 2026 10:22:31
Bruno for 75m. Does that Tielemans and Santos look like a bit of good business?

angelred

1.) 05 Aug 2026 10:44:20
In no way comparable, different players and different clubs. Not relevant to anything really.


2.) 05 Aug 2026 11:40:05
75m for a CM, 28 years old, and 35m for a CM, 29 years old, both in the Premier League, to 2 top 4 clubs. Not comparable whatsoever.


3.) 05 Aug 2026 11:44:02
In today's inflated market it's money well spent. He is a quality player who will make Arsenal stronger. They are doing what a top team should do. Sign better, please, as much as possible, to consolidate their position.


4.) 05 Aug 2026 13:43:11
Does he definitely make Arsenal stronger, Salford? Zubimendi likely will play less and Rice would need to play more in the 6 to make it work, I think. He's a good player and improves their squad, but it's a lot to pay for someone that doesn't necessarily form part of the starting XI.


5.) 05 Aug 2026 14:07:47
I honestly don't rate Zubamendi, and I think it will be him that drops out.


 

 

23 Jul 2026 19:54:08
Kings of Manchester - Elliot Anderson

Best of luck buddy, you have put a target on your back. You have now entered the era where Daddy Pep is no longer here.

We will show you who the real Kings of Manchester are, you cheeky pup.

angelred

1.) 23 Jul 2026 20:40:00
He's hardly going to say, "Delighted to have joined the second biggest team in Manchester."


2.) 23 Jul 2026 20:52:02
Yeah Danny, of course, that is the only thing he could have said. ?

Kings of Manchester, give it a rest lol.


3.) 23 Jul 2026 23:09:34
What about the here and now, Angel. They have been sitting in first for nearly as long as it's been in the EPL. Still a few wins behind.
Don't want you sounding like a Liverpool fan pulling out wins from the 60s, 70s, 80s.


They are the kings of Manchester in the recent past and present. Now that Pep is gone, I'm hoping they hit a long dry spell.


4.) 23 Jul 2026 23:10:43
Citeh = Arab blood money.


5.) 24 Jul 2026 04:03:12
...King cheats!


 

 

21 Jul 2026 09:42:31
So it seems as though, due to Rashford's situation remaining unresolved, our search for a LB and LW has stalled.

Rashford staying will mean that he is the additional LW/Forward option and it will mean, most likely that Dorgu will become more of a LB option.

Here's hoping it's resolved soon dn we will see a new LB arrive as well as new forward.

It's only a few days after the World Cup so I presume the club is working hard on resolving the situation and selling/loaning Rashford, freeing up space in the squad and on the books.



And whether or not Carrick and the club mean it, where the sounds are that they will reintegrate him into the group (my bet is they don't mean that) well it sounds better than 'bomb squad'.

angelred

1.) 21 Jul 2026 10:27:15
I don't have a problem with him staying, even if it feels a few bridges have been burned, and I think he'll leave. Dorgu looked good prior to his injury, but Rashford would still be a fantastic player to have. I bet Carrick would love to have him in the squad.

The issue was with the previous manager and the snowball effect of fans turning against him. If this forum didn't exist, I suspect the average Utd fan would be happy to keep him.


2.) 21 Jul 2026 10:43:54
If Rashford stayed and scored a few goals, it would all be forgotten by the majority, and they would be singing his name.


3.) 21 Jul 2026 11:41:41
Personally I feel like it would be best for all concerned if Rashford could find a new club, it feels like too much water has passed under the bridge now to go back. But who knows, the dressing room Rashford would be coming back to is very different from the one he left, the manager is a former teammate, and maybe he's realised the grass isn't greener elsewhere.

If he ends up staying then we need to try and get the best out of him, at his best he is a real asset to the team, someone who offers real threat in behind, pace, goals and creativity. Ultimately he brings all the things we are looking for in a LW signing.

Dorgu I suspect will still play a fair few games as a LW, but maybe a few more at LB. Maybe Rashford gives Dorgu the kind of competition and coverage to allow him to develop without quite as much pressure. Maybe it gives us the freedom to send Amass out on loan again (at least for the first half of the season), giving him the game time he needs to kick on and step up.

Best case scenario is Rashford returns close to his best form, Dorgu is given the space needed to continue to develop and Amass kicks on out on loan coming back ready to challenge for a first team spot. Then next summer we have Dorgu ready to be a first team regular at LW, and Amass ready to challenge to be first choice at LB. While Rashford's form means we get some serious offers next summer when he has a year left on his deal, meaning we can either keep him for his final year if that is best for everyone or sell him and use the funds to bring in a new player for the left hand side.

Ultimately right now we don't know is Dorgu is going to be a LB or a LW long term, and Amass looks close to being ready, but it would be a big ask to just throw him in.

Keeping Rashford gives both young players time to develop and for the club to assess what we really need.

We could sign someone like Summerville this summer and then Dorgu turns out to be the better option. After we've sunk 40-50m+ on a new signing (who of course isn't guaranteed to be a success).
Or maybe we spend big on a LB like Lewis Hall only for Dorgu to end up being better used as a LB and Amass kicks on and is challenging, leaving us with three potentially top LB's (one having been signed for 60-70m), and no winger options.

There is a real possibility, maybe even a probability that keeping Rashford for another season is best for the club. Giving us time to develop our young left hand side players, and allowing us to focus funds on other positions without potentially wasting it on the wrong players this summer.


4.) 21 Jul 2026 13:09:15
Dorgu is not good enough as a left back but like him further forward.


5.) 21 Jul 2026 13:11:52
Dorgu is very adaptable and can also play on the right. I agree with those who think a new club is the best for all, but, assuming Rashford's committed 100% to the cause, he's not necessarily a bad option. His salary is high, but no amortization, so overall cost might not be prohibitive if it saves us another transfer.

It also prevents him from going to an EPL rival where, like Danny Welbeck, he could come back to haunt us! I'd let him go to Spurs if we could have Porro or Spence.


6.) 21 Jul 2026 13:12:29
Keeping him is high risk, in my opinion. His wages and age mean this only works if he can return to 19/20 or 22/23 seasons' form, when he was good for 20+ goals a season in all competitions.

He can't be reintegrated as a back-up/fringe option, he'll probably be the highest earner at the club, and it goes against all the spiel and briefings about turning down Tonali/Fernandes because of their wages and transfer fees.



I think a likely exit route is within the Premier League: Villa, as they will have space now Rodgers is leaving; Spurs, who are keen to flash the cash; or Arsenal, if they miss out on priority forward targets.


7.) 21 Jul 2026 14:39:17
Get rid. A supposed boyhood Utd fan can't be arsed to give 100%. What does that say about him.


8.) 21 Jul 2026 14:52:19
I'm struggling to see the upside of him staying, especially with the wages he's on. He needs to be sold/loaned, I reckon. Even if he's sold to a Prem team, I wouldn't mind, but would only loan him out abroad.


9.) 21 Jul 2026 15:20:09
He can't come back. He won't be motivated to play off the bench. When he has a bad game, the fans will be on his back. Going back is not a good option for either.


10.) 21 Jul 2026 15:31:54
I won't comment about his motivation to play again for Utd as I have no idea how strong or weak it is. I would hate to see him go to another Premier League team and play to his potential, though.


11.) 21 Jul 2026 15:35:32
I am sorry, but am I missing something here? Where's Cunha in all this? Wasn't he playing left side of that front 3/4? Does that trash walk back in ahead of Cunha straight away?


12.) 21 Jul 2026 15:57:48
Rashford had issues with EtH and RA. His commitment was questionable when OGS was in charge as well.

My main concern was how selfish he became and how he just stopped trying. That was unforgivable!


13.) 21 Jul 2026 16:17:34
I'd prefer Marcus Rashford to go. Nothing personal, just wage outlay vs on-pitch output.

I feel a bit defensive about his laziness. I remember he had a bad back problem, played through pain, and I'd be of the opinion his body is not up to it.



Rashford did work hard at one point. Whether he's billy big balls now and can't be arsed, or he just doesn't have the capacity, I'm not sure anyone knows. But I think we all know it's time to move on, either this season or next.


14.) 21 Jul 2026 16:38:14
I'm with you, MH, and there are some that will forgive if he scored a few, as Angel said.
I won't forgive him for his sustained bad professionalism. I'd hold him in lower regard than Di Maria.
I'm mature enough to know I don't have to like all our players, or respect them. As long as the team is winning, I don't care what individuals play; for the most part I don't have to like them all, and if Rashford plays well, I'd acknowledge the same as I would if he doesn't.


The key is
The club don't want him
He doesn't want to be here.
He will only go to someone who suits him. That's his right.
If a move doesn't come that suits him, he will sit tight. There is not one thing we can do about that, like him or not, forgive him or not.


15.) 21 Jul 2026 16:45:22
If Rashford decides he wants to stay and actually puts in the effort. If, after the first few games, he's still jogging around the pitch looking disinterested, he can go play with the reserves until January.

As others have said, I do think a fully fit and firing Rashford is a real asset.

Motivation is clearly an issue, though. If he doesn't want to be at the club, he should find himself a club that he does want to play for, who actually wants him.


16.) 21 Jul 2026 20:13:26
Hold him in lower regard than Di Maria ??? you're something else!


17.) 21 Jul 2026 21:35:24
Rashford's options are limited though.

And it may be that his best option is actually Man Utd?


18.) 22 Jul 2026 00:35:36
Yeah Angel, I despise the way Rashford conducted himself on and off the pitch for a really sustained period.
Someone will take him, I don't care who, really. I find it crazy Barcelona didn't take him at 26m.
But they don't see value in him at that, obviously. He might end up back there on loan with even less chance of playing, so I doubt they will do that. Maybe a loan to Italy, where the tax is much lower, so a couple of clubs there could go a long way to covering his wage.
But I'm not sure he has the passion for the game, and doesn't really want to dedicate himself to his profession and work hard.


I think he and his camp think he is better than he is. He is being paid an awful lot more than he is worth, so therein lies the problem.
He might loan hop for a couple of seasons, walk out on a free, and get a nice deal in the States at 30.
I've zero respect for him as a United football professional, none at all.
If we get stuck with him, so be it. The best I can hope for in that case is that he shows some flashes of his talent and makes the odd valuable contribution.
There are a few players or coaches over the years that I've held no regard for, or lost all respect for. It's no big deal, it's my opinion, for 1.


19.) 22 Jul 2026 10:14:09
Post in this thread from Shappy saying the dressing room Rashford would be coming back to is much better than the one he left. ...... A large part of the reason for that was moving the likes of Rashford out.

When he was still playing for us before his loan move, let's not forget that he was a relatively experienced player at the time, with hundreds of appearances for us and about 60 caps for England, not some kid.

..... And his attitude, both on and off the pitch, was atrocious.

You also have to wonder what effect Ronaldo's second coming had on Ronaldo, Sancho, Garnacho, etc.

Watching their hero not track back, throwing a strop when not in the team, or being brought on as a sub, running to Piers Morgan to have a bitch. Maybe they all thought they could do the same.


 

 

14 Jul 2026 14:31:51.
Just rewatching the Omar Berrada interview with Andy Mitten. Fascinating insight into the man and his team.

Listen to him re transfers, very insightful and I believe they have planned for every eventuality.

So refreshing from where we were the last few years.

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29 Jul 2026 07:19:47
Great post, by the way, Utd Road. Keep those coming!

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29 Jul 2026 07:19:26
As a parent, that child is everything to you, and I'm sure they will try to guide everything and be very protective, as he is their son and only 15.

He looks a fantastic young talent, and I am very excited to see where he goes.

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29 Jul 2026 07:16:05
Will be good reason if sold.

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24 Jul 2026 21:28:09
Mount is a fine player and would be a huge asset to us if he was able to stay fit, but he can't, unfortunately. Great engine, gets around, very clever, has a good eye for an assist and a goal, but rarely starts or is able to stay fit.



I feel very sorry for him that it just hasn't happened here. I would love to see him stay fit.

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15 Jul 2026 17:33:17
Said it before, and I'll say it again.

The best ability is availability, and unfortunately he's not it. I like him, but we need someone who is consistently able to play.

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06 Aug 2026 23:02:36
Red Man, do you not like Tielemans or Santos?

We have spent over a billion pounds in the last 5 seasons, Red Man. I'm not sure spending endless amounts of money is the answer. It certainly hasn't been up to now.

It's about picking the right players, whatever the cost, and I think that's what they're trying to do.

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06 Aug 2026 19:07:42
Let's see where they are in 3 weeks time, Red Man.

LB, CM and Forward would be ideal.

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06 Aug 2026 19:06:13
Who said we were definitely after either of those!?

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06 Aug 2026 13:41:34
Maybe so, DB, but I do like them, particularly Mitten, who is very well connected and always seems to be well informed regardless of the subject matter, and in life that tells me he is well liked and respected.

I'm sure the club use him where they can, but he has also built up many contacts outside of the club that I am sure also inform him.



I'm just saying, the fact that neither of them, and many others, seem to have a clue about targets tells me that the club are tight lipped.

To be honest, it is great. They have been shrewd in their signings and I look forward to seeing who comes next.

I'd like a LB, CM and CB if Rashford stays.

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06 Aug 2026 13:15:19
Cheers, Ken. ??

Anyone else want to have a crack at who we think we might sign, either names or positions. Bit of fun. ?

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