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02 Jul 2022 20:18:29
Before anyone starts criticising Ronaldo, why blame him for wanting to leave. Ron has maybe one or two seasons left where he could play Champions League level football. We can't give him it this season, plus, if we are honest with each other, given the continuing mess, it's unlikely the season after either.

I hope the club act professionally and don't start denying him an exit so that the whole thing will decline into a grubby argument only settled on the last day of the window when too late to buy anyone. The club need to let a club legend go without rancour.

We are that much of a mess they are talking about Calvert Lewin, how far we have fallen. How far putting Moyes and particularly Ole in charge, took us down. Instead of buying wingers the club should have bought a striker. Ole sold Lukaku and thought Martial was the answer.

Don't be surprised if we put a bid in for Neymar, after all he fits our utter shambles of transfers in recent years.

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02 Jul 2022 20:27:35
We are where we are, we know we need a complete rebuild and that at the moment we cannot attract the top top talent.
I for one would just be happy to see 11 players on the pitch next year working their nuts off and see where we are at come the end of the season.

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02 Jul 2022 21:25:41
I was thinking Neymar myself to be honest Red Man…. I’d really hope we don’t do it.

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02 Jul 2022 21:32:23
I don’t think top 4 this season need be beyond our dreams (assuming we get the players we seem to have in the works - otherwise of course not) and this is exactly what Ten Hag will be saying to Ron, surely. The same thing Ron was told by Fergie when Real came calling. You’re still in contract, give us one more year.

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02 Jul 2022 21:41:00
So wonder who will be captain now then?

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02 Jul 2022 21:57:59
If a player doesent want to be here then sell him

Doesnt matter who they are.

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03 Jul 2022 01:22:59
100% agree Red Man, Ronaldo will leave either this summer or next. Why make it an unsightly mess. Who really benefits from that? Not the club, not the player and not the fans.

There are legitimate questions about whether he would suit the style of play we expect EtH to play.

He obviously isn't a long term option.

Personally I'd like it if he can stay his final year as it delays the need to heavily invest in a striker. However, that comes with the caveat that BOTH Ronaldo WANTS to be here AND EtH WANTS him as part of his squad.

If either Ronaldo wants to leave or EtH doesn't want him as part of the squad then it's for the best that he leaves this summer rather than a whole season of discontent.

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02 Jul 2022 18:30:38
Hi Ed002,
Is it true that Ronaldo has handed in a transfer request?

Will the amateurs force him to stay like they did with Pogba?

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{Ed002's Note - I doubt formally because of what it would cost him - I suspect JM has informed the club or the player has done it verbally.}

02 Jul 2022 19:08:05
Even though i think he has been good in some ways its probably better if the club wants to start from a clean slate.

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02 Jul 2022 19:20:39
If he wants to leave and we get an offer then we should take it. Nit a surprise for anyone I would imagine.

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02 Jul 2022 19:29:19
Let him off. Eth will be glad I rekon. He is a fantastic individual player these days but would maybe hamper us in developing the style Eth wants . But of course we now need a world class striker.

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02 Jul 2022 23:25:59
Let's be honest, we needed one anyway. No way was Ronaldo going to part of a United side ready to challenge for the big prizes because we aren't close.

Therefore why pay all that money to him in wages it's better used elsewhere.

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02 Jul 2022 11:11:01
Hello Ed002. asking you after a long time. Is there any quality Striker left in Market, who ManUtd can think of considering in this window? Or the plan of a forward is shattered after Nunez joined Liverpool.

{Ed002's Note - There are plenty oof strikers available but the problem is attracting them to the club without Champions League. It would also depend on departures, such as Rashford and Martial.}

02 Jul 2022 12:22:27
Could Rashford leave the club this window Ed? Any interested parties?

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{Ed002's Note - Possibly - I don't think any decision has been made. There has only been vague interest.}

02 Jul 2022 12:56:15
Vague interest. Sounds like Martial in training.

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02 Jul 2022 16:19:54
Thanks for reply ed002. But I was looking for names of Striker, who are actual quality.

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{Ed002's Note - surely you know names of strikers who are good?}

02 Jul 2022 16:51:29
Is Harry Kane still of interest to us Ed what with Ronaldo possibly leaving now?

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{Ed002's Note - I doubt Kane would be interested in dropping down a level.

02 Jul 2022 17:05:58
Might need one now if reports are true about Ronaldo wanting to leave.

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02 Jul 2022 17:34:04
Surely if there is any truth to the Ronaldo thing, this should have been established very early on, not the day before he is due back to start training.

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02 Jul 2022 17:40:23
I'm not sure where Ronaldo could go as you'd imagine there are only 10 or so teams who could even afford his wages and I'd guess hardly any of them either need or want Ronaldo.

He doesn't strike me as a Bayern player, I doubt we'd accept a bid to another PL club, Real don't need a striker as Benzema is in the form of his life, Juve seemed happy he left, Inter just got Lukaku and PSG already have plenty of attacking options.

I reckon he speaks with Ten Hag, sees the lack of interest from CL contending teams and other top sides and ends up staying.

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02 Jul 2022 17:42:43
Copied and pasted from previous Ed002 notes (again, thanks Ed002)

Ed002's Note - Lautaro Martinez but that won't happen. Hugo Ekitike and that won't happen. Youssef En-Nesyri but it makes no sense. Patrik Schick but he won't be moving. Martin Terrier is a versatile option. Dominic Calvert-Lewin makes sense. Alexander Isak is looking to move elsewhere. Harry Kane - don't rule out an approach if Nunez doesn't happen. Nkunku but he may well be heading elsewhere. }.

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02 Jul 2022 18:14:55
Nkunku won't happen new deal. Kane won't leave spurs for no champs league. Which leaves isak terrier (? ) calvert lewin. I imagine EtH may bring his liking for jonathan david with him from ajax and if napoli are one of the clubs interested in ronaldo maybe he could be used as part of an exchange for osimhen? Maybe something similar could be worked out for martinez if we could convince him. Really we need to see who is interested in ronaldo and see if that can be used to help us i think he would have more value in an exchange than he would if a team bought him.

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02 Jul 2022 18:32:49
Tammy?

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02 Jul 2022 16:57:30
Brazilian kid named Gabriel Veron seems to be doing the rounds. Never heard of him but all for a hungry unknown quantity if they fit the mould of player Erik's after. Although I think the Prem would eat him alive at present.

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02 Jul 2022 19:05:48
My fear is we end up with Calvert Lewin……and our transition to mid table mediocrity is complete.

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02 Jul 2022 19:06:07
the rumour is veron signs the goes on loan spenno but he's a rw we have pellistri and amad as your rw not sure we need others we to loan out. and you can keep the tammy abraham option thanks.

Jonathan David
Lautauro Martinez
Victor Osimhen
Alexander Isak (im assuming the option was dortmund and left when they signed Haller)
Calvert-Lewin

i think the 5 above could be options for us.

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02 Jul 2022 19:23:28
Isak, I thought a big team would come in for him but as they didn't maybe he would join us as a stepping stone.

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02 Jul 2022 19:31:39
Are Everton going to sell Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin? Godsend that they’ve sold one so we don’t get the other.

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02 Jul 2022 20:08:01
Obertan, Owen, and Valencia incoming lads here we go!

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02 Jul 2022 20:16:47
We might need to sell Rashford to make space for Garnacho.

I think Rashford has it all but consistency.

Pele or Walcott.

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02 Jul 2022 20:31:21
Victor Osimhen, wanted to come a few years ago. Would be a good signing, especially if Ronaldo ends up at Bayern.

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01 Jul 2022 19:21:50
Ornstein reporting we are in talks for Martinez. Think his versatility could be a major asset. CB DM RB. Interesting signing of it happens and clearly one the manager has requested.

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01 Jul 2022 20:34:00
Interesting one this. Don’t know anything about him but had a Google and as you say can play a number of positions but I wonder what position he’ll predominantly come to play. Lots of talk of Lindelof today being best choice to partner Varane so could Martinez be the defensive minded CM we all want?!

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01 Jul 2022 22:04:57
Lisandro Martinez was player of the year last year.
Had the most interceptions, blocks and clearances.
Would probably be easy for him to adapt to Ten Hag's system.

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01 Jul 2022 22:42:44
I think it will be CB but obviously his versatility is a huge plus.

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02 Jul 2022 00:32:44
He is a CB, said that as soon as Timber rumours started he was a much better player and more important to Ajax style. The knock is his size.

Don't figure him to be bought to play DM or RB.

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{Ed004's Note - has he ever played as a cdm?}

02 Jul 2022 08:21:23
He’s left footed.
Predominantly plays left sided centre-half, with a particular eye for interceptions and passes the ball through the lines incredibly well.
Actually signed for Ajax as a holding midfielder and has played there a few times (also covered at LEFT back on several occasions) but ETH saw in him immediately that he’d do incredibly well as a ball playing centre back.
Trouble is his height in the EPL but if we are going to become this short, sharp passing team, I don’t think there’s many better CBs out there than him to ping it around.

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02 Jul 2022 08:58:21
neither he or Timber touch 5ft 10 - not a fan of these shorter CBs in the PL. -just my opinion.

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02 Jul 2022 09:16:04
Tyler Malacia is 5'7, left side would be weak.

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02 Jul 2022 10:17:36
While there is a disparity between the physical nature of the EPL and the Eredivisie, Martinez was winning over one more header per game than Maguire last season, which a far greater aerial duels success rate.

Being tall helps obviously, but reading the game, knowing where to be and having a good leap and timing are also big factors in successfully winning headers.

What Martinez lacks in height he makes up in tenacity, intelligence and reading of the game.

He's the same height as Fabio Cannavaro, the last defender to win the Balon d'Or.

Maybe his height will be an issue in the EPL, maybe EtH wants him for midfield and not defence, or maybe he'll do well despite his height.

If it happens let's just sit back and see how he does.

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02 Jul 2022 11:01:38
Lol Shappy you were tearing apart Torres' lack of height last week saying he wouldn't cut it in the Prem, until you were reminded of Cannavaro and all the other great 'shorter' centrebacks, and now you're all over Martinez like a pair of dirty grots. :p Not defending Maguire at all, he's no Beckenbauer but of course he can head the thing and he's up against far superior strikers every week than Martinez so to simply whip out the constant stats across leagues is an unfair comparison.

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02 Jul 2022 11:37:04
If your good enough your tall enough why are people obsessed with our cbs being tanks.

If you have a brain and a good player you don't need strenth,

How many strikers are units in the prem, what strikers hold the ball up and use strenth very little.

If he's good enough which i'm sure ten hag knows himself.

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02 Jul 2022 11:45:14
I think we need to accept that we will be susceptible next season in certain areas/ games. Like everyone is saying with the purchases coming in they may lack the Arial presence . however I think EtH will make us difficult to attack against in other ways.
As the saying goes. there are many ways to skin a cat. there are many ways to play football.
We will hopefully dominate possession and what Martinez appears to bring will benefit that from the back or as DM in a fluid system.

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02 Jul 2022 12:17:43
Spenno, I never said Torres has a lack of height, the guy is 6'2.

I said he was weak in the air.

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02 Jul 2022 14:54:38
Harland and nunez will both make the top two teams far better in the air than they have been in recent years. The trend for small strikers (aguero) or false 9 quick and Clever players (foden, mane. Jotta, silva) could be over.

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01 Jul 2022 10:26:19
There is talk today that there are complications with the Malacia signing due to him changing agents. Seeing some reported comments from Lyon can any of the eds clarify where the issue is and if OL, feyenoord or us have messed things up?

{Ed002's Note - I don't think it is a huge deal as the agreement has been reached with his club and there have been discussions with Ali Durson, but as I understand it the father of the player will look to handle the contracts in place of Durson. Durson will still expect some payment for what he has already done and I assume the father will want a cut. I don't think it is any more than that.}

01 Jul 2022 10:47:08
Many thanks Ed. insightful as usual sir.

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01 Jul 2022 18:38:00
Done deal now.

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01 Jul 2022 21:49:23
Fabrizio has called it.

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01 Jul 2022 22:42:45
Just like FDJ was done too.

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02 Jul 2022 11:25:02
Eric,

Don’t think anyone has said it’s done, just that we have agreed on the original fee, add ons still to be agreed, sure it will be sorted. The lad is on holiday and just got engaged anyway so doesn’t matter if it’s today or Tuesday really.

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02 Jul 2022 21:29:34
Some players did GDS hence my comment. I’d say any transfers apart from a back up left back are far from done so far.

We can add a striker to the shopping list now too unless ETH fancies the Sancho, Rashford, Martial combo.

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01 Jul 2022 07:59:20
Hey Ed.

Is it true that Eric bailly is of interest to some teams in the German league?

{Ed002's Note - I don't know. Eric Bailly (CB) Interest from Italy has gone. Offered to Newcastle but they have preferred targets. His agent will continue to search out a new home.}

01 Jul 2022 15:52:57
Ed002. I think you have well documented the players that united have made available for sale.
Not withstanding some of them have had in different form, imo some of that can be laid at our coaches and ex managers door, what are the major issues for them leaving.
Do we ask too much money?
Is there a complete lack of interest?
Are their terms too hard to match?
Perhaps a combination of all 3.
I think they are all decent players at most levels but have possibly been at the wrong club at the wrong time.
I'm surprised that there has been no real acceptable offers for the likes of martial, bailly, awb. Telles Shaw dalot. Tuanzebe and Jones being injured a lot I can understand a bit more.
Thanks for any insights.

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{Ed002's Note - They are not all going to leave immediately - you need to allow time.}

30 Jun 2022 14:43:30
Rumours are he's interested in coming home, the greatest back up keeper in EPL history.

Sergio Romero is interested in rejoining Manchester United after the relegation of his new club Venezia from Serie A.

Would people take him back?

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30 Jun 2022 15:38:18
Hell yeah. There was a point he should have been starting.

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30 Jun 2022 15:44:09
Strikes me as someone looking for another decent contract before retiring. He'd probably earn more being second choice at United than number one elsewhere. We should sign someone else.

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30 Jun 2022 15:44:36
I'd be delighted to have him back. One of oles victims. Now the bell end is gone he would be happier here i'm sure.

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30 Jun 2022 16:19:49
He deserved to be the our number keeper. Ddg was abysmal whislt Romero was at the club.

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30 Jun 2022 16:27:10
Would love to have him back, great keeper and on a one year contract with option would make sense.

Didnt he struggle to sell his house, think it is still on the market.

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30 Jun 2022 16:43:44
I think they employ non-playing staff to look after the finances, Mad Hatter.

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30 Jun 2022 16:48:47
Mrs K says she'd love to see him back 🙄.

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30 Jun 2022 17:14:31
Shappy, you seem unhappy with how the Henderson saga has played out?

Romero is a better keeper than Henderson, he's been a consummate professional and always played well when called upon. Would you not be happy with him returning or do you not like him because people prefer him over Henderson?

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30 Jun 2022 17:45:03
Mumbles,

I think Henderson should have been given a proper run far sooner than he was. DDG had been poor since 2018/ 19 season.

However, that boat has sailed by the looks of it.

I really liked Romero, and thought he should have been given a chance. I didn't like that he often played all the cup games but was then dropped for the finals. I thought that was out of order.

That said I'm not sure it's best for him to come back after the public spat when he left.

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30 Jun 2022 17:58:23
I’d take him as a back up 100%.

I would also sell Henderson once he has a season on loan and does well. From what I have seen I don’t think he is level required to be our number 1 in the long term, and won’t want to play back up to anyone, which is fair enough, I respect that totally.

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30 Jun 2022 18:16:31
Getting Romero back would be a great move. The fact he is open to it as well and knows what his role and wouldn’t cause any issues makes it even better.

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30 Jun 2022 19:38:18
Sign him on a 1 year deal and see how thing turn out with the Henderson loan. Seeing as there are still doubts over De Gea fitting in to ETH style of play, Henderson may well get his chance if things go well for him at forest.

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30 Jun 2022 20:07:47
Shappy, Henderson never been good enough, even on DDG bad days.

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30 Jun 2022 21:52:51
Romeo said nothing worse about the club than most fans on here shappy including yourself.

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01 Jul 2022 00:43:15
I don't see any harm in the rumour and don't think there is any truth to it
Takes the focus of other uncompleted transfers for 12 hours.
He did leave with a sour ending and probably regrets that episode to some degree.
Most fans will have said worse about the club the owners or coaches and players at some point including All of us.
As a stop gap I'm not sure how fit and agile he is these days so not sure he is even an upgrade on Heaton.
But we are a little short on big characters and experienced senior pros so I'd welcome him back despite the public spat which is not what anybody wants to see.

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01 Jul 2022 01:20:20
The rumour comes from an men article. It states nothing about interest from us in the player- it’s pretty much saying he’s a free agent and would probably consider a move back. It’s a nothing piece imo.

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01 Jul 2022 07:41:41
Caused a lot of excitement on here though which is tether worrying.

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30 Jun 2022 14:40:33
Seeing lots of bits popping up about Sergio Romero saying he’d come straight back to us if we make the offer.

I always liked him and thought he was a really good stand in. With Henderson possibly on his way out I’d say yes without a doubt.



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