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26 May 2022 18:45:02
Any United interest in Alessandro Bastoni from Inter? City rumoured interest but 2 years back and obviously they have reinforced since.

Left footed CB, 23. £54m value per Transfermarkt. co. uk

Bailly and Jones look on their way out. Question marks over the remaining CBs and I'd include Varane in that due to his injury record (albeit from a one season sample) .

We look heavily linked with Torres and Timber though the latter could be as RB?

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26 May 2022 18:19:43
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26 May 2022 10:12:51
Us united fans are a strange bunch. lots of praise on Twitter last night for an ex manager who left the club on bad terms, winning a trophy that nobody wants to be in! Makes sense doesn't it. 😂.

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26 May 2022 11:07:09
That man deserves all the plaudits. He may be past his best but still knows how to win. We don't want to be in the Europa League so i think EtH should just not compete and not try to win it? He is yet to lose a European final, 5 i think is the number.

Bad terms were created for him by the a*holes sitting above him. If only they listened to him back then, we wouldn't have been in such mess. He was right all along. All the players he wanted gone are the ones we are crying out to be gone too isn't it? And the players he wanted are winning trophies left right and centre. Remember Perisic, who was supposedly too old?

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26 May 2022 11:11:21
Yes Tim. And Mike Smalling was man of the match!

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26 May 2022 11:51:16
Yes he was and he played very well, but we did see him struggle many times for us. I just don’t see the point, what’s it achieving. Jose was right on a lot of things, wrong on others. There’s certain people online who will use everything as a stick to beat with. Just look at the response to ETH comments on maguire and the reaction that got. Roma won, well done to them but I don’t see how it’s comparable to us. That’s just me.

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26 May 2022 12:26:41
Jose was a poor fit for our club, but you can't deny the guy is a great manager.

Five European titles (2 UCL, 2 Europa/ UEFA cups and now the Europa conference) is a great achievement.

However, when you look at who he won those titles with, other than the Europa cup win with ourselves, the other sides are not considered elite sides. Porto a top side in Portugal, but in truth both Sporting and Benfica are historically bigger clubs. Inter are probably the 3rd biggest side in Italy behind city rivals AC Milan and Juventus and obviously Roma are a step down again.

His style of play suits the underdog sides. He was successful but never embraced by the Madridista's, he was a success at Chelsea when they were striving to be a big club, but once they established themselves he didn't quite fit anymore.

His style of play also suits knockout football more than league football. Where a draw is a good result and not 2 points dropped. I think International football would be good for him when he leaves Roma.

Great manager and his achievements should be celebrated, just a poor choice as a manager for us, especially at the time he took over.

No hard feelings though, I wish him further success.

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26 May 2022 13:03:12
Agree with UA and don’t agree with Shappys opening words. I think he was the perfect fit with the wrong structure. Jose gets his feet under the table with winning ugly and when he thinks he can will win both ways. He will dig in against teams like city yet still have a great chance with players which want to work for him. He wasn’t backed and let the players run the asylum hence why this current mess exists. xA
We will never know which players he wanted to buy, but we sure know which he wanted gone, and he is right they have been useless and a let down.
Same story at Spurs.

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26 May 2022 13:52:04
Shappy, I think we were the problem in that dynamic.

If we had worked with him more, he would have been ideal.

Man United have been the root of the problem for years.

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26 May 2022 14:15:36
Everything Jose said about the club came to fruition. All the players he wanted to sell stayed and have been extremely poor. Players he wanted to sign like Perisic who were lambasted for being too old went on to be integral in league and champions league winning sides.

The club and some fans weren't in the right frame of mind for Jose. Some still romanticized about a manager coming in who spoke of United DNA and the United way, well we got that and it ended up setting the club back a serious way.

I'm unhappy with how this season was tossed in the bin with so much to play for when we could have gotten Conte in. There are some fans who look down on certain managers like Jose, Conte, Simeone which I don't think is right.

But we've taken our medicine and hopefully with Ten Hag it will begin to look brighter.

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26 May 2022 15:03:52
JOS WAS CLASS AND STILL IS BUT HE IS GONE NOW AND let's MOVE ON AND BACK TEN HAG.

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26 May 2022 15:21:36
Angel, I think the club was almost entirely at fault in the Jose saga.

Everyone knew who and what Jose was before he joined United. Yet the clowns hired a man who would call them out, then looked surprised when it happened.

The club should have never hired him in the first place. He was a poor fit for the structure we had unless massive change was going to happen.

I also think stylistically he was a poor fit. United have never been successful by playing a pragmatic style. The United fans expect a certain style of football.

While trust in youth has been a cornerstone in our success and history since the days of Sir Matt.

Jose prefers older players at their peak and tends to play a pragmatic style of football. In that regards he is almost the antithesis of what the club is, or at least should be.

He's a top manager, but not every top manager is a good fit for every club.

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26 May 2022 16:27:53
Again, I think had we given him the tools, and shown the progression that was needed, he would have done even better. He would have been a great fit.

I don't buy into this 'wouldnt have been a good fit'. Just like I don't buy it when they say it about conte or Simeone. Give them the proper tools, they will succeed.

Rail against them, like we did with jose, it won't end well.

The club were the problem, not the manager.

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26 May 2022 16:41:02
Jose finished 2nd and wanted to challenge for the title.
The board gave him Fred, Grant and Dalot. An absolute slap in the face.

The amateur's didn't match his ambition.

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26 May 2022 17:52:24
TRD,

Dalot was very highly rated, I'm sure Mourinho wanted him at Utd.

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26 May 2022 17:52:33
Top manager. He was not allowed to do his job here the way he needed to.
Now after 4 years of nonsense we have fallen lower than a snakes belly and need to clear out the players Jose called out 4 years ago.
I was never a big Jose fan I still am not but the absolute crap spoken about him on these pages was so far from the mark so far from the truth imo it was just daft.
Jose knows what a good pro is. No matter what age they are.
I agree with shappy I think he would be a great manager for England post Southgate.

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26 May 2022 18:29:44
Ken, I think graham potter has england manager written all over him and would be a brilliant choice should Southgate step down.

He would do a great job with England and IMO would be able to step into a number of 'big' jobs.

Also, yes, Jose would be a good shout for England.

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26 May 2022 18:48:41
Think Mourinho is a busted flush at the top level. Football tactics look to have moved on but you can't argue with the man's record. One which was further enhanced last night. Good luck to him.

Mourinho would've been the logical choice to replace Ferguson. Still astonishing we went for Never won a thing Moyes to replace SAF.

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26 May 2022 08:40:58
Another tabloid source claiming today that Eric Ramsay the set piece coach is set to stay on under ETH -following on from other tabloids reporting the same story earlier this week.

The success of our set pieces -for attacking and defending against is very very easy to measure and by any standard its terrible, just worse than useless so what's he being rewarded for?

26 May 2022 10:20:11
Bfbw. He is a very well qualified and highly regarded young coach.
I agree his cv to date is not exactly glittering. however he obviously has the smarts and knowledge perhaps eth feels he can get more from him with better direction.
Like some of our players will be improved dramatically with better coaching and direction.
Please be patient. Some folk on here are second guessing decisions eth is making on players and his staff. He knows best so let him get what he wants and needs around him and see how he does if in 6 months we are not improving somewhat then let's ask questions. Some players have not even had a proper professional elite working environment since they joined the club. Nor has Ramsey. Its been a mess for 4 years. Patience maturity and understanding is what eth needs. That plus respect for his decisions.
We don't have to agree but we need to understand he knows his ideas and his plans. He knows what he is doing let him Get on with it. Nobody here has any idea what his plan is so until it transpires there is no point in dwelling on what might or might not happen imo.

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26 May 2022 10:29:29
As crap as we were we conceded the 4th lowest amount from set pieces.

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26 May 2022 11:25:22
Well said ken.

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26 May 2022 12:30:26
Is be being rewarded? If you're boss called you into the office and said you weren't being sacked, would you consider that a reward?

He's under contract and according to those who have worked with him he's done a decent job.

I'm sure EtH will work with him and if he doesn't feel he cuts the mustard will look to replace him.

It's always useful to have a couple of guys around who know what the old regime was like, who knows the players and can work with the new management set up.

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26 May 2022 12:55:19
Who is to say that he had good ideas and worked well in training with the team and that they just did not impliment it in matches. Based on what we have seen from this bunch it would not be the strangest thing.

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26 May 2022 15:47:34
I think the players refused to actually follow instructions whilst on the pitch. We saw this wher ein the first half under RR they played a high pressing football. Second half they just stopped.

Later on they just stopped altogether. The coach and the staff will always take the flack.

The problem is that the club need to back the manager and his coaching team. If players need to be sold to make a point, then so be it.

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26 May 2022 17:57:40
I don't know whether EtH 'knows best' as Ken is fond of saying but I would wager he knows a damn sight more than Ole did!

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26 May 2022 08:33:00
I've seen some highlights of Amad Diallo this morning, and they were just highlights. Has anyone been watching him on loan at Rangers. From what I've seen this morning, he looks like he's been playing slightly deeper as maybe a central midfielder, also on the right. Looks like he's handled the Scottish league well without being spectacular. Wouldn't mind seeing him given a chance under Ten Hag.

26 May 2022 09:31:16
He started brightly for 2-3 games then was consistently warming the bench.
Looks a poor loan move now.
In the Europa finals, he didn't even come off the bench.

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26 May 2022 11:26:02
Would've been better off in championship.

Hes a very talented young man. Hopefully he gets an opportunity to train under ETH.

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26 May 2022 12:33:08
I don't think he will be given a chance next season. The plan I think is to loan him out again.

He hasn't set the league alight in Scotland and bar a few flashes has been bang average.

Garner has been a far better, more consistent and standout player in a much tougher league on loan than Amad. Yet there is still a question mark over whether he's ready to step up to the top end of the EPL. Q.

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26 May 2022 15:53:43
All players will have to impress EtH. As long as those who have been out on loan, come back, train hard, lait to EtH and his staff then they have a chance.

I was surprised Pellistri wasn't given a chance last season. He has a fantastic pre season, then was shipped out. The club now have a surplus supply of wingers. Marcus Tashford will have to be careful as his form has been horrendous.

Again its onwards and hopefully forwards, which u seem to say every year.

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26 May 2022 07:39:05
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26 May 2022 06:59:48
Been watching Smalling and other ex playes which we sold, considering them as not up to the mark.

I am starting to believe that players were always good, they were there to be coached, by a good coach. Not with emotional appointments like Moyes, Ole, Rangnick. Mourinho, SAF and to certain extent LVG showed that they can work with a comparatively less talented pool of players and achieve better performances.

I am sure that if Mourinho or LVG would have given more time, we would not have been in such a dire condition. We would have certainly developed a style of play.

Conclusion is that I am hopeful that with current set of players, coach like ETH will be able to get most out of the current players, I know some positions needs reinforcements, but I am now very very hopeful. I have realised that players are not the problem, the coaches were.

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26 May 2022 08:54:01
I don't disagree with you and I think you make some good points I wouldn't argue against but Smalling is 6ft 5,rarely scored from corners or was much of a threat in an attacking sense .

For such a big man he had very little upper body strength compared to someone like Craig Dawson or Tarkowski of Burnley, very easily pushed off the ball.

Worst of all his last 2 seasons with us he suddenly developed the terrible habit of holding and grabbing opposition forwards at set pieces, he was often a red card waiting to happen in the modern game. Probably has been coached better since leaving us but at the time I wasnt sorry to see him go.

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26 May 2022 09:58:51
This is just not about Smalling, its about all other players who have left because of bad coaching, Memphis, Smalling, Mkhitaryan, Herrera etc.

Smalling is always better than Jones, him winning MOTM in conference league final proves it. I think he still has greater number of games for MUFC than Jones have managed till date.

Sancho, deadly attacker in Germany, comes to us and struggles, Varane, top defender when with Madrid, came to us and looks like a player running with a limp. The list is long Pogba, Van de Beek, Matrial, Alexis Sanchez, Di Maria, Juna Mata

One example is Luis Diaz, a player who has a confirmed history of malnutrition, rocks the ground with his performances.

Again, all top level players or you can say players who can get in to any team's squad, but they struggled here under a below par Coach.

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26 May 2022 10:21:00
Smalling without doubt one of the worst footballers I’ve ever seen! Absolutely dreadful! Paid obscene amounts of money and couldn’t pass a ball, controls ball! Horrendous!

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26 May 2022 10:33:42
PF mourinho had smalling here and he was shocking. Mourinho and Van Gaal worked with the players above that you named. I get there is a coaching element, of course there is. But the players also have to have the right character, and want to improve. Memphis didn’t have that in his time here. I think I remember ed1 saying we were going to try him on the right and he didn’t want that.

Players haven’t improved here for a long time, but players have to also be responsible for their own development as well. A good coach can’t make you a good player without the correct work ethic.

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26 May 2022 11:28:00
Then what about the decline in performances of Rashford, Bruno, Sancho etc. I am sure someone at the club is responsible to keep the squad morale in check. Someone who must rang the alarm once they see or feel that players, who should be on their peak, are actually on a decline.

There was this dreadful pattern in our play in recent times, where close to no crosses were sent in the box, as the box was always empty, ball was recycled from left to right in defence. I miss the poster who was named as NoMidfield, as it was the case then and it was the case now, we don't have a mid field. It pained to see the last 2 games, we were tormented by Brighton and schooled by Palace.

Again, I believe ETH will turn it upside down, CR7 will be his captain and I think we will get De Jong to partner him with de beek. Next winter/ summer window we will go all out for Darwin Nunez.

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26 May 2022 13:01:38
PF every manager has had his faults. The players aren’t blameless. But using Rashford as your example. There’s something serious he needs to sort himself. I’ve played to a pretty decent level of rugby in the past under some excellent coaches and some poor coaches. Ultimately at the highest level the vast majority of coaches are very good, but it was on me to improve under them.

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26 May 2022 00:30:25
Is there any interest in James Justin?
Have watched him develop at Luton then onto Leicester. Although injury has held him back this season, he is a quality full back and can play both sides.

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